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Speaker 1: second data date. Body language is very important in the
Speaker 1: dating world. That's why I'm always really good at body language.
Speaker 1: When I go out on a date, I always write
Speaker 1: everything about me that they should know on my body
Speaker 1: and Sharpie and I show up to the date naked
Speaker 1: body language. There's no question about who I am or
Speaker 1: where I'm coming from. They see everything right there out
Speaker 1: in the open. I just picture you naked with a
Speaker 1: lot of insecurities scribbled all over yourself. And that's good
Speaker 1: because they get to see everything about me. Yeah. Granted,
Speaker 1: I haven't had a date in a long time, and
Speaker 1: the last couple didn't end very well, didn't start very well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cops were called anyway, they weren't understanding my body language,
Speaker 1: and that can be a problem. Well, Brett, who's on
Speaker 1: the phone today for a second date up date, got
Speaker 1: some bad advice from a dating blog, I guess, and
Speaker 1: he thinks that his body might have got him in trouble.
Speaker 1: What's up, Brett, how are you? I'm good. How are
Speaker 1: you would your body betrayed you, Brett? Yes, I think so. Well,
Speaker 1: I should say that this dating blog betrayed me. I think. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll get to what your body did in a second. First,
Speaker 1: tell us about the girl you want to call today.
Speaker 1: What's her name Jennica? Jennica? And where did you meet Jennica?
Speaker 1: I met her on a dating app, and I've been
Speaker 1: able to go on a lot of first dates from
Speaker 1: the same app. And the problem is, I've had trouble
Speaker 1: getting second dates, even though you know, I'll think a
Speaker 1: first date goes well and then it's like I never
Speaker 1: hear from the person again, which I guess is why
Speaker 1: you're calling us, right, because you're back in that same positionally,
Speaker 1: this is the place to call. Yeah. So I read
Speaker 1: the dating blog that said that it was good to
Speaker 1: try to initiate some sort of physical contact. So you
Speaker 1: tackled her as soon as you saw her? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I figured football was the way to go.
Speaker 1: M No, you know, but like, how do you do
Speaker 1: that without seeming creepy? So I'm like trying to think,
Speaker 1: like maybe I can read her palm or like under
Speaker 1: the table. I think you're tried not to be creepy. Man. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean think about it though, like you know, you're
Speaker 1: just meeting someone. Yeah, I mean what other ways are
Speaker 1: there to try to initiate that physical conduct? I know,
Speaker 1: like maybe you could do like a high five to
Speaker 1: start and then see where that goes if it lingers
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, you do the high five and when
Speaker 1: your hand stats, you interlock her fingers and you hold
Speaker 1: her hand there and start into her eyes that you know.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why you have to touch someone. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the idea behind the blog post was right
Speaker 1: that it's like that way, you know, there's a chemical
Speaker 1: connection and you can like feel that between the two people,
Speaker 1: there's like that spark. I mean, like that makes sense
Speaker 1: to me. It just the problem was that it was
Speaker 1: like in the back of my mind the entire time.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I was like twenty percent in
Speaker 1: the date eight per like, how do I touch this
Speaker 1: person without looking or feel the message? All right? That
Speaker 1: can put you in a very tough situation. So how
Speaker 1: did you touch herr? How did you touch her? Sounds
Speaker 1: weird to say, but did you initiate some personal touching? So? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was like I was like, you know, let me,
Speaker 1: let me do this. I actually did have to go
Speaker 1: to the bathroom. Site, so I got up and I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, when I come back, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: like put my hand on her shoulders and then and
Speaker 1: then you know, like say something charming or something you know. So,
Speaker 1: so can I ask? I'm sorry, can I ask? Real quick?
Speaker 1: Were you guys sitting at a table where you at
Speaker 1: the bar like we were sitting at a table? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you can. So I would like, so like, you know,
Speaker 1: I would like, I guess, come up behind her and
Speaker 1: I know, I know, So how did that work for you? Well? Okay,
Speaker 1: so the first time I chickened out and then and
Speaker 1: then I said I had to go to the bathroom
Speaker 1: when I didn't really have to again like fifteen minutes later,
Speaker 1: and I decided to just come up behind her and
Speaker 1: I just was like guess who? And yeah, so I
Speaker 1: tried to grab her shoulders like kind of gently, but
Speaker 1: as soon as as soon as we made contact, she
Speaker 1: like jumped, and so it was not ideal. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you scared her? I guess, yeah, all right, kind of
Speaker 1: on purpose kind of not Yeah, did it seem like
Speaker 1: she got over that or was it weird from that
Speaker 1: point on? Yeah, I mean she like she laughed a little.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like it didn't like derail the day. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I thought of the day one really well about it.
Speaker 1: Maybe she had already like written me off. I'm not sure, okay.
Speaker 1: And when you said guess who, it wasn't like deep
Speaker 1: and inner ear and creepy, right, I guess who? It's
Speaker 1: your day exactly? No, no, no, no, it was nothing
Speaker 1: like that. I was really just trying to be friendly.
Speaker 1: And how did things end? Did you get some physical
Speaker 1: touch there at the end? There was a hug at
Speaker 1: the end, and it would be a nice hug. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like the longest lasting hug, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was a hug, and it gave me the impression that, like, okay,
Speaker 1: like a second date is definitely in the works. Cool.
Speaker 1: So I mean, did you talk to her sense? Have
Speaker 1: you texted called? I've tried texting and I have not
Speaker 1: heard anything. Have you tried texting or explaining that you
Speaker 1: didn't feel like you touched her appropriately or enough in
Speaker 1: the first date and you'd like a second chance at that. No,
Speaker 1: I have not tried that, although if that's what you
Speaker 1: guys advise, I would probably not do it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: well you're a smart man. All right, well we'll play
Speaker 1: a song, come back, and then call her and get
Speaker 1: your second date update. Okay, okay, all right, hang on
Speaker 1: looking jubil in the morning. Second Today's second date update
Speaker 1: is proof that you should be very careful when taking
Speaker 1: advice from dating blogs because you never know who's writing them,
Speaker 1: you know. For example, I've got three right now, all
Speaker 1: under different aliases. And Brett, who's on the phone for
Speaker 1: a second date update today, got some advice from a
Speaker 1: dating blog on how to connect with somebody physically on
Speaker 1: your first date without coming off like a creep. And
Speaker 1: he thinks he came off like a creep, which is
Speaker 1: interesting because I want to see where he got his
Speaker 1: information from. Brett, was the dating blog that you read
Speaker 1: by somebody named Lady Mariah? I don't think so? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: what could it have been? Lady Beyonce? Definitely not okay,
Speaker 1: last one hot blog? And Mama, no, okay, you didn't
Speaker 1: go with Lady Gaga and the last one I thought
Speaker 1: that was just a softball. No, that's that's my blog.
Speaker 1: And Mama blog. It's a good one. But yeah, apparently
Speaker 1: I wasn't one of mine, Brett, so I didn't steer
Speaker 1: you in the wrong direction either way. You think the
Speaker 1: fact that you were really kind of focused on trying
Speaker 1: to get some touching started on your first date might
Speaker 1: be the reason you're not getting a call back from
Speaker 1: what's her name again, Jena Jenica? Okay, we'll give her
Speaker 1: a call right now and see if we can find
Speaker 1: out why. Any last thoughts before we do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I would really just love another date with
Speaker 1: Jenica where you know, I'm not going to be so
Speaker 1: in my head about the touching part. Yeah, I probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't tell her that because if you didn't creep her
Speaker 1: out on the date, you probably will after. I was
Speaker 1: just thinking about touching you the whole time. Good point,
Speaker 1: All right, Oh, doll her rnumber right now? See we
Speaker 1: can get on the phone. Here we go. Hello, Hi,
Speaker 1: is this Jennica. That's a shame? Hey Jenica, how are you?
Speaker 1: My name is Jew Bill from brook and Jewbil in
Speaker 1: the morning. What hey, Jenica. Yeah, you're obviously familiar with
Speaker 1: the show. No, No, you're not sounded like you were
Speaker 1: sounded like we were all friends. Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you people are. Okay, okay, so
Speaker 1: you're just an ec one to please. Anytime you get
Speaker 1: a call from somebody you don't recognize, you kind of
Speaker 1: laughing or like, oh hey you thanks for calling. I
Speaker 1: bet it's genius. That's got to throw telemarketers off. All right, Well, Jennica,
Speaker 1: it's a radio show. It's called Brook and Jewel in
Speaker 1: the Morning. Okay. Anyway, I'm calling you today because we
Speaker 1: do a segment on our show called the Second Date Updates.
Speaker 1: So a dude named Brett emailed in about you. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: you got a few minutes to tell us about your
Speaker 1: date with Brett and maybe why you don't want to
Speaker 1: call him back. Um, oh god, this is weird. Um okay,
Speaker 1: I just didn't like him. I don't know what his
Speaker 1: deal was. I yeah, I'm just not interested. Is there
Speaker 1: a reason, though? Did you do something strange? I mean
Speaker 1: this is strange. Um, I mean everything about this and
Speaker 1: the date it was a little strange. Was it awkward
Speaker 1: right from the beginning or did he work into awkward
Speaker 1: for you? It wasn't awkward at the beginning, But what
Speaker 1: was weird was that he got out to go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom, and he was in there for like ten minutes,
Speaker 1: So that was a little weird. And I kept looking
Speaker 1: over at the bathroom because he you know, when he
Speaker 1: was going to come back. And when he finally came
Speaker 1: out of the bathroom, I noticed that he came out
Speaker 1: of the women's room. Um. Yeah, And so was it
Speaker 1: like one of those restaurants where they're like trying to
Speaker 1: be cutesy and they're naming the women's and men's like
Speaker 1: different things. No, No, no, it definitely. It definitely labeled
Speaker 1: men and women. Definitely. Yeah, nothing nothing kitchy, Okay. Did
Speaker 1: he address why he was using the ladies room instead
Speaker 1: of the men's room. No, he didn't say anything, and
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything. You know, I figured probably was
Speaker 1: an accident. I was going to give him the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt. But then like ten minutes later, he
Speaker 1: excused himself to go to the bathroom again, and I
Speaker 1: was like, so I watched him go to see which
Speaker 1: bathroom he went in, and he like looked around all
Speaker 1: shadily and then went in the women's room again. Who really, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: double women's room visits, So that doesn't mean it was
Speaker 1: an accident. Yeah, and like the fact that he was
Speaker 1: like kind of schedually looking around before he went into
Speaker 1: the women's room made it extra creepy. But is it
Speaker 1: creepy or I mean, like was it a single stall
Speaker 1: or were we talking a multistall bathroom, because if it's
Speaker 1: a single stall, I don't know that it's creepy or
Speaker 1: a multi stall bathroom. Okay, okay, Like I'm shocked that
Speaker 1: nobody walked in on him and caught him in there,
Speaker 1: like either lucky or unfortunate, I don't know, depending on
Speaker 1: what he was going for. Because very good point. We
Speaker 1: talked to him about your date and he didn't mention that.
Speaker 1: I don't well, So I was texting my friend about it,
Speaker 1: being like, oh my god, this guy on my date
Speaker 1: was just went in the women's room twice, And while
Speaker 1: I was mid texting her, he had come back and
Speaker 1: he scared me, Like he grabbed me and was like
Speaker 1: it's me Like surprise. Sounds like a fun date to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I don't know it was he was just giving
Speaker 1: me like serial killer vibes. I don't know, Like, I like,
Speaker 1: who goes in the women's room and then comes out
Speaker 1: and scares her date like that's he did tell us that,
Speaker 1: like you hugged him at the end, though, Well, I
Speaker 1: mean he paid for dinner. I felt like it was
Speaker 1: at least I could do. Yeah. Yeah, and you just
Speaker 1: want to get out of there as quickly as possible,
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, sure, I'll hug you real quick
Speaker 1: and then I'll never talk to you again. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you guys talk to him, I don't know. I perceived
Speaker 1: the caution because he seems like kind of a creep. Well,
Speaker 1: we did talk to him, and also he's listening on
Speaker 1: the other line and wants to talk to you, Jenica.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jenica, I know it sounds weird, but
Speaker 1: I could totally explain this. Okay, really tell me it's
Speaker 1: actually not a weird thing. I know, you know several
Speaker 1: other people who do this. See, I don't know anybody
Speaker 1: who does that, and there are plenty of males in
Speaker 1: my life. I feel like somebody would have said this
Speaker 1: along the way. I don't know how you know hordes
Speaker 1: of people that do this. Um not to mention, Jenica,
Speaker 1: I mean you're a woman. I'm a woman, and I've
Speaker 1: never run into men in our restroom, right, Well, let
Speaker 1: me just be clear. I always make sure to look
Speaker 1: to make sure that like there's not anyone in the restroom,
Speaker 1: And that's why I was looking around, because if there was,
Speaker 1: I would have definitely not used a woman's restroom someone
Speaker 1: from walking in exactly well, I mean if someone would
Speaker 1: have walked in, I would have left immediately. Can really
Speaker 1: things you're going to the bathroom? Why do you do this, Brett?
Speaker 1: Women's restrooms are so much nicer than men's restrooms. They
Speaker 1: they smell better, they are often bigger. There's sometimes there's
Speaker 1: a couch in there. But if you're dude hanging out
Speaker 1: in the women's bathroom couch, that's not good. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not hanging out. I'm just trying to paint you
Speaker 1: a picture of like how nice they are comparison to
Speaker 1: like the hell hole that is the men's room where
Speaker 1: it's like cleaned, you know, twice a year, and there's
Speaker 1: like pea everywhere and they stink. So shouldn't your mission, Tom? No?
Speaker 1: But seriously, like seriously, I really recommend like guys up
Speaker 1: there to tride this out. But if stay away from
Speaker 1: our bathrooms, Brett, And here's the thing, make your mission,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, banding together with your bros to
Speaker 1: make your own restroom cleaner, you know where. I just
Speaker 1: think he's making this up. I think that I caught
Speaker 1: him doing something weird and he's just making up this
Speaker 1: whole thing to make it seem like it's the women
Speaker 1: dress room. No, no, no, no, I'm not making this up.
Speaker 1: This is this. There's something that I do and I
Speaker 1: don't think it's weird. I bet you know people in
Speaker 1: your life who do this too, And I just there's
Speaker 1: so much shame around it, clearly about using the wrong bathroom.
Speaker 1: You're just getting weirder and weirder. Yeah, okay, okay, but Jeremicha, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not some creek who just like hangs out inside
Speaker 1: of women's restrooms. I'm a normal guy who uses them
Speaker 1: on occasion. And that's what I was doing that at evening.
Speaker 1: And I know, I'm sorry you got the wrong impression,
Speaker 1: but I thought we had a really good time and
Speaker 1: really good conversation and and I would love to get
Speaker 1: the chance to see you again. You know, maybe I
Speaker 1: could look past the women's restroom thing. But then you
Speaker 1: came out and scared me, and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is just extra super weird. You know, Okay, I'm can
Speaker 1: explain that too. I can explain that too. Be angry
Speaker 1: at this blog that I read that that told me
Speaker 1: to do that. Don't still be glad at me, I mean,
Speaker 1: be angry at the internet. Don't you read a blog
Speaker 1: that told you to scare your date? No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It said that initiating physical contact on the first date
Speaker 1: is a good step. Yeah, but like that naturally, not
Speaker 1: like scaring someone, like we're not twelve a thing, I don't.
Speaker 1: I know. I know that now, and it's it's easier
Speaker 1: said than done, like to be natural. I mean I
Speaker 1: wanted to like maybe touch your hands when they were
Speaker 1: on the table, or like maybe like just touch feet
Speaker 1: under the table or something. But but like I would
Speaker 1: worry that that those would be too creepy. So like
Speaker 1: it's not easy to be a guy dating now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: really difficult, you know, when you're using women's restrooms and
Speaker 1: trying to touch your date in weird ways. This is
Speaker 1: way harder for Jennica. I can guarantee you that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like date two, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: like sniffing my hair and collecting it, making a hair
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, that is so unforted. I would totally
Speaker 1: not do that. I mean unless a blob told me that,
Speaker 1: and then I would tell that was a joke. That
Speaker 1: was a joke. Yeah, I was just trying to joke
Speaker 1: about the situation, Jennica. I mean, Jennica, would you like
Speaker 1: to go out with Brett on a second date? We
Speaker 1: will pay for it. Listen, I don't want to leave
Speaker 1: the second date in a body bag. Like I don't
Speaker 1: think this is a good idea. My girl Dare is saying,
Speaker 1: no unsafe situation. I'm all set. Yeah, good job Jennica, Brett.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you didn't get a second date. Did
Speaker 1: you at least learn anything from this? Yeah? I did
Speaker 1: learn something. Next time when I go on a date,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to use the women's restroom at the
Speaker 1: restaurant next door non Jewel in the morning.