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Speaker 1: most of her time spent on screen was just posing

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Speaker 1: and kind of puffing her lips out show off. There's

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Speaker 1: there's there's one scene where she's like passed out or something.

429
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: I think it's because of her illness, and she's just

430
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Speaker 1: laying on the table and the cameras direct on her

431
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Speaker 1: and it looks like it looks like the app if

432
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: you it looks like when you go to like the

433
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Speaker 1: plastic surgeon. It's like a picture of the after and

434
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Speaker 1: it's in like in the surgeons like waiting room and

435
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: a picture of like her beautiful face. I do have

436
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: to say it was It was cool for me to

437
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: see the movie because last year I went on a

438
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: set visit to the set of Eternals and like walked

439
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Speaker 1: on the spaceship. So that was cool to see it

440
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: because I had been on it. Um. I went to

441
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Speaker 1: the hair and makeup trailer and I touched Angelina Jolie's

442
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: wig and then someone was like, don't touch that. Um,

443
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: So that was very fun. UM. I loved that Angelina

444
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: Jolie was um serving dRIT Calmsley from Real Housewives Up

445
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, and that her accent was unpinnable. I had

446
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: no idea what she was trying to do. It was

447
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: one moment it was like slightly British, then it was

448
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: like a little Swedish, and it was a little Eastern

449
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: European like it really, it really vacillated. Maybe that was

450
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: the point. It's like she comes from many different places

451
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: or something. But she looked so beautiful. So um as

452
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: did everyone just one, just one? There were multiple opportunities

453
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: for a born this way needle drop, and let me

454
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Speaker 1: tell you, we did not get it because the gay

455
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: character in this movie kept being like, um, I was

456
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: born this way, I'm proud to be me or something

457
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 1: like that, and I was like, it doesn't matter if

458
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: you love him or capital, you know what I mean?

459
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: It really would have Well, maybe you know, Gaga now

460
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: with the way her movie career is going, will end

461
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: up in a Marvel movie eventually, no question, no question.

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00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: Or maybe well I guess now x Men is part

463
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: of Marvel again, so maybe she'll wind up in an

464
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: x Men movie. I would love that. Um Well, speaking

465
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Speaker 1: of superpowers, I'm very excited to get into our main

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Speaker 1: discussion today, where we'll be talking about Harry Potter. Do

467
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Speaker 1: Do Do do do? So stick around and we'll be right

468
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: back to um. Figure out what Hogwarts house is current?

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Speaker 1: Don fran Yes, what Hogwarts house are you in? I

470
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Speaker 1: think I know, but I want to hear what you

471
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: think it is right. Well, maybe we can, like honestly,

472
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: like maybe we should take the quiz after this or

473
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: something like that. But like I feel, okay, yes, everyone

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00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: stay tuned for the end, we will take an official

475
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: sorting quiz. But I want to hear what you think

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Speaker 1: your houses. So I feel like most people might classify me.

477
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: I feel like you may even classify me as a

478
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: griffin door. But oh okay, wow, wow, okay, that was

479
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: a very quick response. I wouldn't do it that I

480
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: am actually a Slytherin. Maybe not one of the evil Slytherins,

481
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: because not all Slytherins are evil hashtag not all Slytherans.

482
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Speaker 1: But I feel like I do possess a lot of

483
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: kind of self involved and self propelled, like I don't know,

484
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: decision making that is, like, you know, intrinsic and a Slytheran. Um.

485
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you're that cutthroat. Are also, I think

486
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: I kind of ambros I mean, you made this podcast

487
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: with me, you bared witness to some like really like

488
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: some some projecting. You definitely are more h You're more

489
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: into scheming behind the scenes than I think you're the

490
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: fran base would think. I mean you and I are

491
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: equally stubborn, but I down on certain things. I don't

492
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: agree with you that we're both stubborn. Um, I think

493
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: you're a raven claw. Okay, I'll take it. I'll take it.

494
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: Why do you think that? Um? You're very smart? You

495
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: I think are really into understanding things. Um, you'd like

496
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: amassing a lot of data around stuff. You force us

497
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: to be organized and what we're going to talk about

498
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: for this podcast and won't let me just wing it? Right?

499
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: I won't let you just wing it. No, You're very

500
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: inquisitive because every time we watch something, you say, what's that?

501
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: What's happening? What's happening? What? What's that happening? Why is

502
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: that's happening right now? Right? And what I usually say

503
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: to you is I have never seen this before either,

504
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: So I don't know. And you know, I feel like

505
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: most people would say you Rose are a slither. I

506
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: am a slither, Like I don't know, if there's no

507
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: other question. I mean, actually, if if there were a backup,

508
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: it would be because huffle puffs are we may be

509
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Speaker 1: to their own drum, and that's probably where the most

510
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: cancers are located. You know, Like, I think a lot

511
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: of people I'm doing a lot of people don't bring

512
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: your Cancyrian kind of ethos into the overall picture of

513
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: who Rose down you in. But you know what, the

514
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: sorting hat takes choice into account, and if that's sort

515
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: of tried to put me in a huffle puff, I

516
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: would ship in it. Got it, got it. I think

517
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: people should know how big of it a deal it

518
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: is that you Rose are talking about it, and we'll

519
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Speaker 1: get it to this in the end of the discussion.

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00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: But like Rose, you really haven't you. Everyone knows you're,

521
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: like you know, a Harry Potter fanatic, but there are

522
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: just certain elements of this franchise where it's just like,

523
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, people never get to hear you talk about

524
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: this thing that is so in trench to your upbringing,

525
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: like you were literally one of those people that read

526
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: Harry Potter before it was cool. Yes, absolutely head of

527
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: the game. But I think what is more meaningful to

528
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: me now, even than my experience of reading the books

529
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: or seeing the movies, is the extracurricular experience of Harry

530
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Speaker 1: Potter that I had. It was some of the first

531
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: fan fiction I read. It was maybe like the first

532
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: thing I stand stunned stunned, stude, um and and like

533
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: the early adds Harry Potter fan fiction was very well,

534
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: like I think fan fiction in general, and like fan

535
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: culture was something that you didn't really talk about, especially

536
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: when you're in that preteen era where like everything is

537
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: embarrassing and you're like mortified at the idea of caring

538
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: about something you know. But also like the like top

539
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: layer of Harry Potter, the books and the movies and stuff,

540
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: that was something I wanted to share to people, you know.

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Speaker 1: When I read the book for the first time after

542
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: my aunt got it for me as a passover present,

543
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: I was, you know, telling all my friends at school,

544
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: you have to read this book about this wizard boy. Um.

545
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: And then it became, you know, like what it became. Okay,

546
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: so you were an evangelist for the book franchise, but

547
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: you didn't want everyone to know like how deep you

548
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: were in it. Kind although although it was pretty clear

549
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: because I had, you know, a Harry Potter birthday party oho,

550
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: although not many people came because my birthday was I

551
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: was a summer baby, so like it was really hard

552
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: to have birthday parties during the summer, really hard summer baby.

553
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: That's why I hate my birthday to this day. Is

554
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: because my child trauma known would come to your birthday parties.

555
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: Is there like an embarrassing slash funny story attached to

556
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: like your Harry Potter fandom that you could share to

557
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: paint the picture of who you were as a kid

558
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: as a Harry Potter fan. Uh? Yeah, absolutely. I made

559
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: my own Hogwarts letter because when I was first reading it,

560
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: it was, you know, before it was the kind of

561
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: cultural phenomenon that is now. So they're just like, wasn't

562
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: a lot of merch available, and I had to make

563
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,239
Speaker 1: my own. I had to d I y it. So

564
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: I did the thing where you you know, dip a

565
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: piece of paper and tea to make it look like

566
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: parchment and staying on what I didn't I didn't get

567
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: that deeper. Okay, well a for effort. Yeah, so that

568
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: is like a very embarra And I put it in

569
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: my mail. But I put the letter in my mail,

570
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: but you did not. You're actually touching on something that's

571
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: not triggering me. And like I think that like when

572
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: we're something that's like really something that cannot necessarily be described,

573
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: is the emotional choke hold the Harry Potter universe had

574
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: pre movie era on like just the child, the child's imagination,

575
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: like our imaginations were so big when you were a kid,

576
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: like kids like so unfettered, right that you were like

577
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to put this letter in my mailbox and

578
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna suspend my dis liep intel. I believe

579
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: that this is like mine, and that is I think

580
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why Harry Potter was and remains

581
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: so popular, because it created this world that you wanted

582
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: to live in. I think some like for some people

583
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: even more so than the actual narrative of Harry Potter,

584
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: they love the world and want to like larpin it

585
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 1: right exactly and so all y'all. Even though I grew

586
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: up like very sheltered, I still was such a Harry

587
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: Potter stand. I had to read the first four books

588
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: in like secret, like my parents couldn't know um. But

589
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: I did develop into like a full fledged like Harry

590
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: Potter Stan. But did having to read it in secret

591
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: make you more obsessed with it? Absolutely, because like the

592
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: whole franchise is about, like because it was forbidden secrets

593
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: and forbiddenness and like belonging to a world that your

594
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: current world doesn't understand and like you just feel that

595
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: so deeply when you're like other kid. But like, actually,

596
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: I've like literally never told this story like on a

597
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: public platform. Okay, okay, okay. So I don't know how

598
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: old I was when the first Harry Potter book came out,

599
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: but I was young. Like, well, you're you're a couple

600
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: of years younger than me, so you probably I was

601
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: Harry Potter Potter's age or some of the books because

602
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: they staggered a bit um, so I was probably Harry's age.

603
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: And I remember laying in bed. My mom had like

604
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: put me into bed, and I remember laying in bed

605
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: and thinking about like the first spell in the book,

606
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: I think, which is a guardium lebiosa, or at least

607
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: the first first major was the first major, the first stunt.

608
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: It's the first stunt. Yeah, And I remember sitting up

609
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: in my bed and being like I'm going to move

610
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: that motherfucking lamp and like trying to move the lamp

611
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: by saying wing gardium lebio said to this lamp. Like

612
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: that's like where I was like cognitively, And I remember

613
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: you didn't think a wand was necessary. Well, I didn't

614
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: have a one I should have found a stick. I

615
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: should have found a stick if I had really committed

616
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: to it. But as after I had started to levitate

617
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: this lamp, my bedroom door, after you successfully started to

618
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: levitate it, that's so cool. I was ahead of my time.

619
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: After I tried to levitate this lamp, my bedroom door

620
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: opens and my mom comes into my bedroom and I

621
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: was like, wait what And I like pretended you like

622
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: immediately pulled the covers up. You try to go back

623
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: to beding like nothing's going on, mom, It's totally chill.

624
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: My mom comes in whatever, she sits down, She sits

625
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: down on the bed and she says, Francisco, I, UM,

626
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: I was going to leave you in your beds, but

627
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: the spirit told me to stay and watch you. And

628
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: I just saw you try to levitate that lamp and

629
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: use witchcraft, and I want you to know that is

630
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: not okay. Like my mom told me that Jesus told

631
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: her to watch me sleep from no. So that is

632
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: that is a cultural background I'm dealing with going into

633
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: the Harry Potter franchise and continued to deal with as

634
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: like my mom basically thinks that like everything is like bruh,

635
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Anything related to Witchcraft, like

636
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: couldn't watch Kiki's Delivery Service, pocus Pocus, bed Noms and Broomsticks?

637
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? And I never want that was

638
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Speaker 1: not one of my kid movies. Okay, we'll do an episode.

639
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: I've seen it, but it's not like it wasn't a

640
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: big thing for me. It's a child God. I love

641
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: that movie when I was allowed to watch it, but

642
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: I as a teenager. Obviously around the same time that

643
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: I was getting into Harry Potter was getting seriously into

644
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: Witchcraft in a real way, Like I was very into

645
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: Wicka in the early two thousand's, there was definitely a

646
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: like countercultural like Wickham moment it's happening. Of course, I've

647
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in the New Age section

648
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: of Barnes and Noble and Borders bookstore. Basically, what you're

649
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: saying is that we were diametric opposites in like how

650
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: we kind of developed our relationships Harry Potter, but we

651
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: were both just kind of like magnet magnetically, like I

652
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: have to continue to subscribe to this. What's your favorite book? Okay,

653
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: what's your favorite book? And what's your favorite movie? Um,

654
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: my favorite movie is seven Part one. I it's right

655
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: before the Battle of Hogwarts. It's a real like adultification

656
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: of the central three characters. I think it's I think

657
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: it's great. I think it's beautifully done emotionally, honest, I

658
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: really connected. It came to me at a time when

659
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: I really needed it, I feel because that was like

660
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: a new adult era of our lives too, um or

661
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: at least of my life, I feel, and I um.

662
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: But my favorite book was the fifth one, like the

663
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: really like I hate Order of the Phoenix. Harry is

664
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: such a brat in it is, but like that's the

665
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: thing is That's what I'm saying, is like when in

666
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: the fifth book when Harry is all like really like emo,

667
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: like I was emo too, Like I just felt like

668
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: so alone and sad, and like you were emo listening

669
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: to your Christian rock. Yes, yes, And I feel like

670
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: I mean Harry Potter. I mean. The thing the problem

671
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: with that is like Harry Potter has nothing to complain about.

672
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: He's always like, oh, Harry Potter, he has a lot

673
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: to complain about. His life is pretty rong. My parents

674
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: are dirt. I'm independently wealthy now and this is really

675
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: hard for me. He is he is very rich. It's

676
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: literally it's never ever discussed that he's filthy rich and

677
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: all of his friends are paupers. Like he's like Ron

678
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: will be like in the corner, like you know, eating

679
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: like for lunch. He's like having like a pudding cup

680
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 1: that he's eating with a comb, and like Harry Potter

681
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 1: is all like do some of my cave all wrong?

682
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: He's a He's a rich white man who grows up

683
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: to be a ca Yeah, that's oh my god. He

684
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: literally wants to be a cop, a cab including Harry Potter's.

685
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: Can you imagine being twelve and you're like, I want

686
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: to be a cop? The toxicity of that child. Well,

687
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: my favorite book is Half Blood Prints. Of course, of

688
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: course I feel like it makes a lot of sense

689
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, so why I really like that it's

690
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: the last time that they're kind of innocent, um you know.

691
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: And I also love the um you know, ex the

692
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: exploration of Voldemort's past and um Dumbledore kind of making

693
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: Harry like do the legwork of his investigation into horcruxes?

694
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: Was this like after uh, he had already been deemed

695
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: like a gay and so like in this it was

696
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: after the whole franchise came. It was after everything was

697
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: when J. K. Rowling said, he because I feel like

698
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: the sixth book is when they were like, oh yeah,

699
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: and Dumbledore knits wink wink. There wasn't any gay Dumbledore

700
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: stuff until after all the books and movies because the

701
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: author of this book series, who has no name will

702
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: not be naming, you know, didn't want to actually have

703
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: to do the work of having a queer character in

704
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: any tangible way of developing them in any regard. Um.

705
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: But my favorite movie is Harry Potter and the Prisoner

706
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: of Azkaban. Beautiful. It is, you know, directed by Alfonso Kuran.

707
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: It is so much darker than the first two movies,

708
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: and you know, really is where all of the stylistic

709
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: choices for the Wizarding World that we know now we're

710
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: like really set into place. Um. And they also ditched

711
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: the robes like and meshed them into modernity a little more. Yeah,

712
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: they're a little bit more like real kids in that one.

713
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: What about Voldemort's backstory kind of like struck you in

714
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: like the sixth book, I really liked finding out, you know,

715
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: like who his parents were. I think that's it gave

716
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: like this like really interesting look into his psyche. Also, Um,

717
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: there is evidence in the sixth book that Baltimore is

718
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: maybe trans You're not doing this? What do you mean?

719
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Okay, So there is a scene

720
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: in the sixth book that's not in the movies because

721
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, there's many more scenes of them looking at

722
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: the memories to like, you know, find out Baltimore's backstory.

723
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: There is a scene it's the last memory that Dumbledore

724
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: shows Harry. Um. It's Dumbledore's memory of a young Baltimore

725
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: coming to Hogwarts to request the defense against the Dark

726
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: Arts teacher. And there is a moment in the memory

727
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: where Dumbledore calls Valdemore Tom Riddle. And at this point

728
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: Valdemore is just starting to be known as Voldemore, And

729
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: it says in the book Harry could Tell that Voldemore

730
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: was furious that Dumbledore refused to call him by his

731
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: chosen name, chosen chosen name. It's literally in the book,

732
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: I swear to God Rose. And so there is a

733
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: way to read that as Voldemore has some kind of

734
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: gender carry and Dumbledore refuses to acknowledge it, and Dead

735
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: names this this gay man dead naming Dead name a

736
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: trans person, right, don't know? I don't of course we

737
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: don't know their pronouns, right. So basically what you're saying

738
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: is that Dumbledore is the turf. Dumbledoes are turf, and

739
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: the central character of this franchise and hero of the

740
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: story is a kid who wants to grow up to

741
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: be a cop and to kill a trans girl. It's

742
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: like what you're saying, Yes, that is the plot of

743
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: Harry Potter. Incredible. You know something that I have come

744
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: back to a lot is I think when we were kids,

745
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: we thought that this was like the greatest example ever

746
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: of like world building, and now as adults, I can

747
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: see a lot of the cracks. Where are you know? Well, Like,

748
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: first of all, the entire economy of the Wizarding World

749
00:44:54,760 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: revolves around joke shops, candy store, wars, and books, right,

750
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: and that's it. That's their whole economy truly, And it's

751
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: it's enslavery because they have house elves. Wait, Dobby is

752
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: an indentured slave like literally like it's in surfdom. Like

753
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I feel like they're within all of that.

754
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: It's as also corrupt as fun, like this is not

755
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: a democracy, like you know, like the Ministry of Magic

756
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: like controls the media. Yeah, there's a lot of class

757
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: warfare in Harry Potter too. Um. I mean you were

758
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: talking about how poor Ron is and like, you know,

759
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like repeated over and over again,

760
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: how poor Ron is. Right, But what's unclear really is

761
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: like what is like the UK currency to like Yalleyan's

762
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: conversion rate. I think that's like the thing that I'm

763
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: thinking about is like, like like what what like that

764
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: all of these things that are very undefined. And also

765
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: it's very clear that she who must not be named

766
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: was kind of, you know, make ing it up as

767
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: she went along, which is fine. Authors can do that, Yeah,

768
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: of course, but you know I can see I see

769
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: the holes now as an adult. And some of the

770
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: more interesting story choices like why did Harry and Jenny

771
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: end up together? So like all like Jenny is like

772
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: such a kind of non character for the first couple

773
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: of books never and all they like kind of talk

774
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: about is that she looks like Harry's mom. Honestly, it's

775
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: giving like when Joey and Rachel get together at the

776
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: end of Friends, why did they all have to end

777
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: up with the person that they dated in high school. Yeah,

778
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: that's actually so toxic, and clearly the person who Harry

779
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: had the most chemistry with was Draco Malfoy. Yeah, egs obviously,

780
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: like I feel like there is I mean, the fucking

781
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: your enemies thing, or rather fucking your bullies is really

782
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: what it's. I know that's like a tired trope and

783
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: like a lot of LGBTQ stuff, but like it's hot.

784
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: It's I feel like the Harry Draco tension was palpable.

785
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: And then you know, like marrying your best friend's little

786
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: sister who's the first person you kiss in high school

787
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: is so straight. You know. Something I think about a

788
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: lot with like book two movie adaptations is what is

789
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: gained in the adaptation outside of the story. I think

790
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: Harry Potter became in the third movie, as I was saying,

791
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: like very stylistic, it didn't necessarily become cool, like, well,

792
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: we'll get to Twilight eventually. But one of the things

793
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: that I really like about the Twilight movies as an

794
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: adaptation is that there's so much cooler than the books.

795
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: You know, like everyone's um like dressed better than they

796
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: are in the books. If I would say Bella is

797
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: dressed better. She's dressed better than she is in the books,

798
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: because in the books she wears a lot of khaki skirts. Um.

799
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: They have really cool soundtracks, and then you look at

800
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: things like in the Harry Potter movies, like, um, you know,

801
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: they were a lot of robes in the books, and

802
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: then in the movies they have a lot of kind

803
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: of ugly outfits like her Mind's fuel ball dress. I

804
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: thought she looked beautiful just because she was in something

805
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: that she looked beautiful, but that dress was hideous. They

806
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: actually have a replica of it at the Wizarding World

807
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: of Harry Potter theme park. Did you go? Did you

808
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: see it? I've I've been to the theme parks many times. Okay,

809
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: we should go together, if you get super stound to

810
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: go together. Yeah, we have to drink a lot of

811
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: butter beer. That sounds like I would ganty ship my

812
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: pants immediately. But you're actually touching on a really important

813
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: thing that we have to address, which is that in

814
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: the fourth movies, the stylistic kind of um integrity really

815
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: went for their haircuts, and Harry and Ron have these

816
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: disgusting skater boy haircuts that everyone's so of the time.

817
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: It dates the movie so much. It really did not

818
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: age well, and I had that haircut rose. Meanwhile, her

819
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: money in the fourth movie, just like you know, after

820
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: kind of the second movie, they're like, we're not going

821
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: to do the thing where we're trying to make her

822
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: hair look bushy anymore. And then by the fourth movie

823
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: she's just blonde. Literally, any time you have a series

824
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: or franchise where they start out and like, yeah, this

825
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: character's ugly and the whole thing is that she's ugly

826
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: and a nerd, they give up on it immediately, Like

827
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: she got the Ugly Betty treatment, where like after season

828
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 1: one they were like, I guess we should just make

829
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: ugly Betty hot, right, Like that's kind of what they did.

830
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: But at least ugly Betty had braces. Her money didn't

831
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: even have the buck well that she's supposed to have.

832
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: Betty did get the braces removed at the end of

833
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 1: the show. It was in the last season. She's still

834
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: a whole season half season. We will be back checking

835
00:49:53,800 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: that in our Ugly Betty episode. Okay, it's funny now

836
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: to ascribe, you know, are are like, um, you know,

837
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty one perspective of like queerness onto Harry Potter,

838
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: and Um, I guess what I'm saying is, which of

839
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: the Harry Potter characters do you think are queer trans?

840
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: A question we will ask for probably every episode, like, wait,

841
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: which which are these characters are trans? Um, I mean

842
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: that we have already talked about Voldemort has some kind

843
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: of gender canetically trans. I think trans. I think she's

844
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: a trans woman. I think that after you've kind of

845
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: described to me what's going on and the dynamic between

846
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: her and Double Door, that's kind of what I'm like.

847
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: She did get some work done on her face, and

848
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: she looks fierce. She went down to Beverly Hills. Now

849
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: she went to Brazil. Mama, Um, I think that I

850
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: think you actually plan in the seat in my head

851
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: that like Luna Loved Good is giving like some NB

852
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: vibes to me, like and Luna in fan fiction is

853
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: always queer in some way. Really, I mean, she's so

854
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: like open minded and so like untethered to like, you know,

855
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: the rules of the world. I think she's giving me

856
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: like non binary pan sexual. You know who's really giving

857
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: that as well? Is Tonks. Tonks Is Tonks is a

858
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: metamorpha magus something some word, some word that's like two

859
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: syllables too long, um, and can literally change their appearance

860
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: in every way. So obviously there's some gender scenario. They

861
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: are literally an animal. Do you know those books The Animal?

862
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: I love Animals? I actually never read them, but the

863
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: covers were we're definitely doing an animal. The covers were

864
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: kind of um, kind of hot um. Professor Trelawney reads

865
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: us trans to me like a latent life trans woman.

866
00:51:53,280 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: Professor Professor Sprout definitely lesbian, older lesbian, Oh yeah, for sure.

867
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: Harry and Draco gay gay gay boyfriend. Draco's whole I

868
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: think kind of like the impetus of his character is

869
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: that he's like a tortured homosexual and that's why he's

870
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: taking it out on everybody else. Hagrid is a bear.

871
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: I think. Okay, there's a thing that she who must

872
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: not be named. It is going to be confusing now

873
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: when we say that with a referring to Baltimore or

874
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: the author of this novel. But y'all can just get

875
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: you know who, you know who. There's a thing that

876
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: happens where like femininity is kind of like mocked in

877
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: this franchise, and like a big stick with Haggard is

878
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: like he's this big, burly guy with a big beard

879
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: and he does manly things, but like he comes home

880
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: and he like wears an apron and he loves tea

881
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: and gardening and he cries when his animals die and

882
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I think it's like a joke, but

883
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: I think that's like one of the most beautiful things

884
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: about his character. And like the I think it's like

885
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: a complete like gender, like a portrait of his gender.

886
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: You know, sure, you know who you know who reads

887
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: this very transmask to me? Whose um Argus Filch the

888
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: Hogwarts caretaker. I also a definite trans woman to me

889
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: is Madame Maxine the Giantess Shop. I'm not allowed to

890
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: laugh at that joke. Um, she's a tall girl, and

891
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: she's a tall girl. Tall girls, you know what I'm

892
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: talking about. The actress who played her served like that

893
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: was like she was so incredible and like, honestly, the

894
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: chemistry between them palpable. You know who's very cis though,

895
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: is Flour Delaco. Flour Delacre is cis culture. Jenny Weasley Sis.

896
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: Although she although she gives me um lesbian vibes, Yeah,

897
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: for sure, I think she hasn't set herself free yet,

898
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: Like I think I think Jenny's like just honestly, one

899
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: Maggie Nielson book away from Jenny Weasley is one Phoebe

900
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: Bridgers lyric away from writing her broomstick right out of

901
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: the closet. Oh yeah, and straight to the cubby hole

902
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: peeves the pul cherk Geist. Oh absolutely, um like gender queer.

903
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: Speaking of Poulter, guys, I have you ever noticed that

904
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: like moaning Myrtles, Like the whole thing is that she's

905
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: like literally a sexual predator, Like yeah, she just hangs

906
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: around looking at Harry while he's taking a bath and

907
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: he's four teens like from moment one like like Harry's

908
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: like taking a piss and moaning Mortles Like what's going on?

909
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: You a nice cock? You know what I mean? There's

910
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: but okay, but there's no room for subtlety, like like

911
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: she must not be named really goes there like he's

912
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: in the bath and she's like, oh hoo's going and watching. Well,

913
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: she's probably a trans woman because she's in a bathroom

914
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: making a siss person feel unsafe. Oh my god, wow,

915
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: well you went there. I did not, do, you know?

916
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: When I was a nightlife producer. I had two very

917
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: large Harry Potter raves. Wait what did that look like?

918
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: I bring that up because for one of them, we

919
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: had our good friend Channo. We both love. She recorded

920
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: a track as Moaning Myrtle that we played on a

921
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: loop at one of the rooms in the party. And

922
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: it was just moaning Myrtle kind of like saying like

923
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: really like kind of sexually deviant things. Really that just

924
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: played on kind of like a low level. Um. She

925
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: was just like yeah, she was like she was like,

926
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: uh oh, Harry, like come fuck me in the bathroom

927
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: or something like that. I don't know. Um, it was

928
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: just like it was it was funny. Oh god, that's

929
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: I can't wait what did you wear? Um? Well? I

930
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: was harmony at both of the parties. The first one

931
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: was Hogwarts Rave and the second one was a Chamber

932
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: of Secrets. They were both really fun, and you know,

933
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: we're we're full of queer people who loved Harry A.

934
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: Potter and we're like reinterpreting it from a queer perspective.

935
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: And this obviously was before we learned what we know

936
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: now about the person I wrote Harry Potter, and I

937
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: actually will get to that, but I actually need to

938
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: know now, like, Okay, did you have you always felt

939
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: yourself Hermione? Like is that where you And also as

940
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: a follow up, did you ever have a crush on

941
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: the characters as you read them? No? No, I don't

942
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: really have fictional crushes like that, even though I'm surprised.

943
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: Even though I love fan fiction, it's not usually from

944
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: the perspective of like self insertion. I did always see

945
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: myself as a Hermione growing up, which is interesting because

946
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: I am such a slytherin um now though I don't

947
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: know if I'm Hermione. I think I'm more of like

948
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: a like a Pansy park in sin. I think you're

949
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: kind of a Rita Skeeter if I also big trans energy,

950
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, no, Rita Skeeter gives me like

951
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I literally when I was a journalist, I

952
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: was Rita Skeeter. If we're going to talk about all

953
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: of the foreshadowing of you know who's transphobia, Rita Skeeter

954
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: was this like kind of garishly dressed performance of a

955
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: woman who transformed into something else so she could spy

956
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: on people in safe spaces. Oh right, Wow, I the

957
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: whole time, I thought she was like, you know, a

958
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: mentaphorizing of corrupt media and journal and I think she's

959
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: I think she's that. But now that we're reading it

960
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: on like a deeper level, like of course, and I

961
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: feel like I have to say when I when I

962
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: read it, I did see myself. I identified hardest with

963
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: her mindy, like she was my girl. I paid attention

964
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: to everything she did and when the movies. By the

965
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: time the movies came out, I developed a crush on

966
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Redcliffe like pretty quickly, like we were the same age.

967
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Radcliffe like got very hot as he

968
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: grew older. I don't know, like in his like Equis era,

969
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: like when he was like that play where he like

970
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: fucked a horse. You know, I saw it like we

971
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: all googled, like, you know, doesn't he doesn't suck a horse.

972
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: He kills a bunch of horses. I've read the play

973
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: multiple times, and yes, there he doesn't fuck a horse

974
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: quote unquote, but there is a spiritual sex, sex based

975
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: like sacrifice thing that he does with the horses that

976
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: involves an orgasmic climax. No, what happens is that he

977
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: and then he does kill them know what happens is

978
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: that he fox a girl in the because he's horning

979
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: for horses. He fox a girl in the stable, and

980
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: then he feels so awful that the horses saw it

981
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: that he blinds them all because he feels like he's

982
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: cheating on the horse. But what I'm saying is that

983
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: he doesn't suck the horse. Okay, well, I think that

984
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: the playwright would leave it up to interpretation. I do

985
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: feel like that is kind of something that the play

986
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: is getting at, is like this this kind of like

987
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: psycho sexual thing that he has. And yes, I'm not

988
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: disagreeing with that, but what I'm saying is that he

989
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: does not physically fuck a horse. No way, he doesn't

990
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: physically fuck a horse in the play. I was being facetious,

991
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: as you often are. You know who I kind of

992
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: identify with now, Professor McGonagall. Oh. You know what part

993
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: of the books and movies makes me cry every time

994
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: without fail is in definitely Hollows, when the Battle of

995
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: Hogwarts is about to start and McGonagall does the spell

996
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: to make the castle come to life and fight. It

997
00:59:49,760 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: gets me every time I have goose bumps. I do

998
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: think Harry Potter is having kind of a second life

999
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: or third life or fourth life, because I mean, this

1000
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: has been going on for so long now on TikTok.

1001
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: I'm not as on TikTok as you are. You're really

1002
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: in it with the kids these days. Hello, fellow teens um.

1003
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: I think we both have seen the the TikTok reinterpretation

1004
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: of the chess scene from Harry Potter. And when I

1005
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: make my move, uh, there's stuff and then and then

1006
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: Ron says, not me, not harmony you. It's a very

1007
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: difficult because there's like a rounded r. Yeah, it's like

1008
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: your but you It's like why oh oh a you

1009
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: are maybe is a spelling you're you're you're. I have

1010
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: to say also that Ron, I feel like he was

1011
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: cast to be kind of like this like doofy type,

1012
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: like he was supposed to be like unconventionally kind of

1013
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: like I don't know all of my friend's head crushes

1014
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: on Ron growing up. I feel like I developed a

1015
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: crush on Ron as I became like an adult. He's

1016
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of like hot, like in that like hot in

1017
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: the like way that like some people look hot because

1018
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: they got like hit in the face with it. They

1019
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: look like they got hit in the face with a shovel,

1020
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? He's definitely someone who

1021
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: I would hook up with regularly and tell no one

1022
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: about it, you know what I mean? Because I mean

1023
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: I think there there there's a certain class of people

1024
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: that I like to hook up with that are just hot,

1025
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: like kind of busted and like nothing going on personality

1026
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: wise or like in their brain at all. Like would

1027
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: never want to bring them to a party, you know

1028
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, he has dumb jock energy. It's

1029
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: like he's a hot dummy. Yeah, which I love me too,

1030
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: my favorite hot dummies. You can slide into the d

1031
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: m s. Okay. So this is something that happens in

1032
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: fan of fiction obviously, Like they're wizards and they have sex,

1033
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: so like there are like lube spells, no, they're or

1034
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: like score out of the wand sometimes um or there's

1035
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: like a spell that just like loubes them up instantly,

1036
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: or like a doucheng spell that we need that we

1037
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: need that. If you, if you were you know, an inventor,

1038
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: if you invent the thing that allows people who have

1039
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: but sex to not douche anymore, you will make millions.

1040
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: You are here, you will make more money than she

1041
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: who must not be named, and you will have it,

1042
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: and you will have a theme park, and you're dedicated

1043
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: to you in your honor. Our producer just dropped a

1044
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: Hermione Belatrix fan fiction in the chat, and I think

1045
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: we need to do a little dramatic reading. Should I

1046
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: be Hermione and you can be Bela Tricks? Oh no,

1047
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: this is on fan fiction dot net. Okay, so this,

1048
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: this Bela Tricks Hermione fan fiction is by an author

1049
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: named peace Love Belatricks peace dot love dot. The title

1050
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: of the of the title of the fan of fiction

1051
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: is only Her, and there is a disclaimer for this

1052
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: chapter was which is this will have lesbian sex. So yeah,

1053
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: wink face. So yeah, how old do you think the

1054
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: person who read this was fourteen? All fan fiction authors

1055
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: are fourteen? Of course they're either fourteen or thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: there is no in between. Got it? Got it? Okay?

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Speaker 1: And now we will give a dramatic reading of only

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Speaker 1: Her by peace Love Belatricks an excerpt, an excerpt, and

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01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: Fran will be playing Hermione and I will be playing Bellatricks.

1060
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: Well like we can take turns on the narration. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think you were capable of looking at a

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01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: mud blood like this, asked her money, while eyeing the

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01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: woman carefully. You're an algics. I'm trying to give her.

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01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give her sort of like a like

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01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: a lived in cockney vibe. Is yeah, the cockney accent. No, No,

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01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: she would be more like like like stilted upper class

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01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: like you're known exception granger, said Belatricks. So she bit

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01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: her lip her money, looked at the woman in front

1069
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: of her, and felt her breathing hitch a bit. As

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01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, I have always been top of my class

1071
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: at I'm rather intelligent. I analyzed my situation with you

1072
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: and have come to the conclusion that is better for

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01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: my sake to just give it to you, said her money.

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01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: Belatricks was hanging onto every word that came out of

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Speaker 1: her pretty little mouth. Off, I want to give it

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01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: to you, Belatricks, take me. This last part came out

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01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: as a whisper. The woman nearly swooned at what the

1078
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: girl on the floor was saying with a flick of

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: her wand the chains disappeared around her Mines risk, Oh

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01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: this is I think that this is touching on something

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01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: that's very reminiscent of my high school experience, which is,

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01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, touching over the bra and that is like

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01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: the most erotic thing you could be doing. Like when

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01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: I had a girlfriend in seventh grade. Please pretend to

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01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: be shocked. I um, yeah, I remember touching Brittany over

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01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: the broad and being like, I've never done anything more

1087
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: erotic in mind hare line, you know what I mean.

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01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: I've never read anything as erotic as that excerpt, which

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Speaker 1: were only her peace love belatricks go for everyone subscribe

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01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: and followed to peace dot love dot Bellatrix. Now that

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01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: we're having a conversation about UM authors, you do think

1092
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: it is unfortunately time to touch briefly on you know who. Okay,

1093
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna put the book in context of our of

1094
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: our modern day, which, unfortunately, I think what in UM

1095
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: she who must not be named did a bunch of

1096
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: tweeted a bunch of things that no one really needed

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01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: to hear, and we're not going to get into them

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01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: here because I'm really not interested in going through and

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01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: talking about exactly what this person has said about trans people.

1100
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: Other people have analyzed it and broken it down in

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01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: smarter ways than we will be able to and we'll

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01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: we'll give you some suggestions for further reading towards the

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01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: end of the episode. What I think is interesting is

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01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: looking back at the text itself and looking for clues,

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: because I do think they're there. Um. I mean, we

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01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: talked a little bit before about Rita Skeeter and kind

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01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: of a joking way, but also this kind of attitude

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01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: that this person clearly has about trans women is very

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01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: apparent in ways that we didn't pick up on his kids. Um.

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01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: There is a scene in Prisoner Ascaman, both the book

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01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: and the film, the Boggert scene where the Defense against

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01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: the Dark Arts classes facing down a Boggert, which is

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01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: this monster that turns into whatever you fear the most.

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01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: It lives in a closet, and so they're in class

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01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: facing it and Neville's Boggert comes out and it is

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01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: Professor Snape, which is like the person nevill is scared

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01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: of the most. And the spell that they do to

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01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: defeat the Boggert transforms the Bogger into something that they

1119
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: can laugh at, because that's what makes Boggerts go away

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Speaker 1: as laughter. And what the spell does is put Snape

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01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: in women's clothing, and then suddenly this terrifying person becomes

1122
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: ridiculous and they all laugh at it because to she

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Speaker 1: who must not be named, the funniest thing she can

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01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: think of is, you know, a guy dressing a man

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01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: a man in women's clothing. Like clearly that's how that's

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01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: how this author thinks of trans women in ways again

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01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: that we don't have to get into. But I think

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01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: it's like telling. I mean, it just goes to show

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01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: how out of touch the whole situation, how how out

1130
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: of touch she is from Like what people take away

1131
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: from these books, like we talked earlier about like how

1132
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: this franchise has a really um palpable way of capturing

1133
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: the imagination of a child, especially if that kid feels motored,

1134
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 1: which honestly, queer or straight, like every kid felt like

1135
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: left out once you start hitting puberty, right, like you

1136
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: have that air of your life where everything is embarrassing.

1137
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: Um but like, especially if you're queer, like you really

1138
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: feel like outside of the world and you feel like

1139
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, there is like nothing for you. And this

1140
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: this book was such a beautiful, like kind of way

1141
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: of framing like there is a world on the other

1142
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: side for you with people that you belong to. You

1143
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, did you feel that way growing

1144
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: up and reading the books? Yeah, that's that you know, Um,

1145
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: I definitely connected with this idea of the you know,

1146
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 1: the the kid who was weird and like discovered that

1147
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: there was something about them that connected them to like

1148
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 1: a greater community. I mean, that's a queer reading of

1149
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: Harry Potter. And it's like, so you don't have to

1150
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 1: dig deep to find queer subtext in in these books.

1151
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: It just goes to show that she the thing that

1152
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: she produced that she's kind of like tainted our memory

1153
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,879
Speaker 1: of is actually like we can't let her taint tainted,

1154
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it has to This

1155
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: story belongs to us, the feelings we felt growing up.

1156
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: I feel like it still belongs to us. I don't

1157
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: know where I really fall on that conversation, because last

1158
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: summer there was a lot of discourse about you know,

1159
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: death of the author and like authorial intent and um,

1160
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people kind of reclaiming this

1161
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: and saying, oh, it doesn't have an author, and like

1162
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: it belongs to us. And I don't think I'll ever

1163
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: personally be able to totally decontextualize Harry Potter from the

1164
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: person who created it. Um. But I've at least swung

1165
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: back around from where I was last year, which was

1166
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do with this. The person

1167
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: who created it like doesn't want to acknowledge my dignity

1168
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: as a human too. Now I'm like, well, there are

1169
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: parts of this I can like love, like earnestly or

1170
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: ironically or like whatever, And then they're parts of it

1171
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: that I'm just like we'll stay away from or be

1172
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: critical of. I think that that is like in the

1173
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: I hate to say this, like to invoke the term

1174
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: cancel culture at all. There's a really great video that

1175
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: Rose turned me onto by ContraPoints that like talks about

1176
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 1: the author of this book in relationship like can cancel

1177
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: culture whatever. But like I think that there's like a

1178
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: very unnuanced thing that's happening in social media right now.

1179
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: We're like people will tweet about something and then all

1180
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: of a sudden, everyone's like delete it, like we never

1181
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: want to see it again, ban it from the libraries

1182
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: or whatever, and like that's actually not what like being

1183
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 1: kind of like restorative lee justice minded in like our world,

1184
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: Like it looks like like the point as you're exactly

1185
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: as you're saying, is like, when these cultural objects come

1186
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: into like our lives, now, it's our job to like

1187
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: make history, stick to it, and then still try to

1188
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: enjoy it the best we can understanding that context. Yeah,

1189
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: and I think, um, you know, interrogate and investigate our

1190
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: own relationships to it exactly and what those relationships look

1191
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: like knowing all of this, because I'm sure there are

1192
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 1: people that that wish they could just pretend they had

1193
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: never read her tweets and like love this in an

1194
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: uncomplicated way. That's not me. I want to know I

1195
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: was this close to getting a deadly hollice tattoo rose Like,

1196
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would have done if I don't.

1197
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what my relationship to that would have

1198
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: been if that You know, well, I did get a

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01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: deadly hollowed tattoo. And I mean even before she who

1200
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: must not be named, came out like really as transphobic,

1201
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: I could already see the writing on the wall, and

1202
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: I got it covered up because I she she had

1203
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:54,560
Speaker 1: at that point kind of already started like liking transphobic tweets,

1204
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: which is funny because I used to tweet at her

1205
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: even before there was any even whisperings that she could

1206
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: be a turf. Um I used to tweet at her

1207
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: asking like, what is trans healthcare like in the Wizarding World.

1208
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was something she was very concerned with.

1209
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: What do you think trans healthcare is like in the

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01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: Wizarding World? Um, I mean not there is there like

1211
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 1: is there a hormone replacement therapy potion? Okay, So producer

1212
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: Phoebe has dropped into the chat that that the um

1213
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: Diagon Alley does have like crunchy queer vibes, like kind

1214
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: of like and I feel like maybe the girls got

1215
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: their moans a Diagon Alley, like in the kind of

1216
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: like back and and and like I think it's a

1217
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: lot like how healthcare exists in America, and that there's

1218
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: not a ton of infrastructure for trans healthcare federally from

1219
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: the government, but Mutual Aid has found ways to get

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: healthcare to transgirl. Okay, so maybe they weren't going to

1221
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: Diagon Alley. They were going to Knock Turn Alley, which

1222
01:13:54,840 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: is like that's like the bad alley, like where you know,

1223
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: like dark magic stuff happens. But Okay, I do agree

1224
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: that maybe at one point trans healthcare in there wasn't

1225
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: in world was like kind of jankie um. But I

1226
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: would say like, let's um, you know, reclaim the narrative

1227
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: and say that it has let's apply some fan fiction type.

1228
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: Thinking I'm a student of Hogwarts. I would just go

1229
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: to Madam Palmfrey um down in the you know, infirmary,

1230
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: and say, Madam Palmfrey, you know I have always seen

1231
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: myself as a woman and I really want to start

1232
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: my medical transition. And she's like, Pip, Pip cheerio, here's

1233
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: here's an est. Madam Palmfreys like the front dust people

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01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: at callen More, They're like, you're gonna need to make

1235
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: an appointment. No, I don't even need a prescription nothing.

1236
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: She's just like, here you go. Actually, maybe you don't

1237
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: even need to go in. Maybe it's sent to you

1238
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: by OWL because you ordered it online. There's there is

1239
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: or worldwide Web. I feel like, well, actually, I don't know.

1240
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure in this version of our reality there's a

1241
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: worldwide Web, or at least a wizarding Worldwide Web www

1242
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: w dot com. You know what I think it's time

1243
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: to do, Fran, what do you think it's time today?

1244
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: I think it's time to take this sorting hot quiz.

1245
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 1: Fran I found a quiz it claims to be better

1246
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: than the pot or more quiz, which also the pot

1247
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: more quiz takes like an hour. And also we don't

1248
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: want anything sanctioned by she who must not be named,

1249
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: So true, I think what we should do is I'm

1250
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: going to ask you the questions and put your answers

1251
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: into into mine. You're going to do the same thing

1252
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 1: for me, and then we will be able to surprise

1253
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: each other. And with the house. Okay, France, imagine you

1254
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: have a wand and you can do any magic with it.

1255
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: What do you want it's core to be made of? Come?

1256
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Oh, there are options. There are options. This

1257
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: is not a right in quiz um Holly with the

1258
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 1: phoenix feather core, Chestnut with the phoenix feather core, Cherry

1259
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: with a dragon heartstring core, you with a phoenix feather core,

1260
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: or I'm going to say you with a phoenix feather core.

1261
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 1: I would say, what's most outstanding portraits? Hanging plants, various paintings.

1262
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,520
Speaker 1: I have stone walls. Well, we know that my apartment

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Speaker 1: is like essentially not decorated at all because I hate it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say I have stone walls and you portraits.

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Speaker 1: Now I have a lot of art, oh right, right,

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Speaker 1: various paintings, various paintings, failing the best friend. Well, I

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Speaker 1: was confusing, like the idea of portraits, and I have

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Speaker 1: a lot of figurative work. What is your magical transportation model? Apparition,

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Speaker 1: flu network flying or port key flying boots for me

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Speaker 1: and for you? No apparition? I wanna. I want to

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Speaker 1: be popping in and out like that. Okay, cool, I

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Speaker 1: I enjoy the ride, I'll fly. What is your zodiac sign?

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Speaker 1: You're a Taurus and I'm a cancer. What are you

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Speaker 1: curious about the world after we die? I will say that.

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Speaker 1: Actually the quiz says world after the die, Earth, world, evil, plants,

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Speaker 1: magical creatures. I'm I'm concerned with evil. I think that

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Speaker 1: morality is like the crux of a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that take up space in my brain. I'm more curious

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Speaker 1: about the world. So just world or world after the die?

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't care about that. Please slop. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So you're evil, I'm world. How do your friends describe you? Well,

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Speaker 1: we can only answer this for each other. Rose recklessness,

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Speaker 1: hard work, wise, mysterious, brave or righteous. I think people

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Speaker 1: that don't know you that well would say brave. I

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Speaker 1: think most of your friends would consider you I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say righteous, and I don't say righteous necessarily

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Speaker 1: in the ethical sense. I'm saying righteous and that when

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Speaker 1: you believe something, there's very little that can back you

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Speaker 1: down in a good way. I'm saying that in a

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Speaker 1: positive way. I think of Rose as someone who just

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Speaker 1: really knows what you want. That's kind of righteousness that

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Speaker 1: it was my second runner, I would be recklessness, okay, um,

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Speaker 1: And for you, I think the kind of obvious one

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Speaker 1: also to people who don't know you very well, would

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Speaker 1: be brave. Um. But I'm going to say hard work.

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Speaker 1: I think you're very committed to your work and your

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Speaker 1: friends and your life. From interesting that none of us

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Speaker 1: chose wise for each other. I don't know if people

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Speaker 1: look to me for like wisdom. I think people who

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Speaker 1: subscribe to your newsletter maybe not you, but I do

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Speaker 1: subscribe to it. I just don't read it. I read

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Speaker 1: it sometimes, well, I mostly read it to see if

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Speaker 1: you mentioned me, which I do. Sometimes you do. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: you steal my jokes. And now we're at the final question,

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Speaker 1: what do you typically do when you get together with

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Speaker 1: your friends at home? We celebrate a special event. We

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Speaker 1: usually research and discuss scientific ideas. We usually get together

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Speaker 1: to do our homework, or we deal with our enemies

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Speaker 1: and build special strategies or relaxation. I can only go

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Speaker 1: off of what we do with each other, and I

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Speaker 1: guess relaxation. But also like we do build strategies. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we do work a lot, we did together, butn't know,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like work, but not to deal with

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Speaker 1: our enemies, which is what this question is about. So

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Speaker 1: I guess, let's say for relaxation, we do both have

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Speaker 1: a lot of nemesses. Yeah, which is important to note.

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Speaker 1: I guess for the sake of the well, a real answer,

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Speaker 1: but like yeah, because we do spend a lot of

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Speaker 1: time processing with each other and and and like you know, conniving. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: so we strategies, special strategy strate. Okay, So now we're

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Speaker 1: going to click the button and get our result surprising

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Speaker 1: no one. Do you want me to tell you who

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Speaker 1: you are? Yeah? Well, can I guess? Yes? You can?

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Speaker 1: My Slytherin. Yeah you're a slitherin. Yeah, yeah, of course

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Speaker 1: you are. Okay, do you want to guess what you are?

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Speaker 1: Does it say I'm a raven claw or no, you're

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Speaker 1: a griffin? Door fuck that I've taken other quizzes that

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Speaker 1: said I was a Slytherin. I had some slitherin answers

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Speaker 1: in there, but I was trying not to throw the quiz.

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Speaker 1: You know, fran I think you're just not a slytherin

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Speaker 1: denial and in denial. But you know what this means

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Speaker 1: that we are not allowing the houses to divide us.

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Speaker 1: That's right, We're having um inter house friendship and we

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Speaker 1: are almost diametrically opposed, and that that's what's what makes

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Speaker 1: our friendship so strong. And I'm going to reach my

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Speaker 1: hand out to you this time. This time, actually we

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Speaker 1: are all this time. You are reciprocate, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: just stretching, and it's definitely you. You're not you're not

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Speaker 1: in the vibe. You're kind of you got a kind

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Speaker 1: of stiff shoulder. But I am also now digging my nails. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you are giving me a little acupuncture here. Well, Rose,

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Speaker 1: it's glad that we confirmed things that everyone already knows

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Speaker 1: about us, which is that I'm a grove indoor and

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Speaker 1: your a Slytherin. But that is what makes this whole

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Speaker 1: story so interesting. So we'll be back next week talking

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Speaker 1: about Taylor Swift's Red album Kennon. Obviously, we're going to

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Speaker 1: do an episode on Not, so y'all can study up

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Speaker 1: or not, you know, come into it cool and that's wine.

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Speaker 1: You can tweet us your takes on this week's episode.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually really excited to know what y'all think of

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Rose. Are you excited? Rose, Yes, but only

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Speaker 1: if it's positive. I'm your co host frand Toronto. You

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Speaker 1: can find me at Franz Squish co on any social

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Speaker 1: media you want. I'm Rose damn You. You can find

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Speaker 1: me out Rose Damn You on Twitter and Instagram. You

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Speaker 1: can subscribe to Like a Virgin anywhere you listen to podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and definitely leave us a review because it helps brand

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Speaker 1: new podcasts quite a lot. Like a Virgin is an

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Speaker 1: I Heeart radio production. Our producer is Phoebe Unter, with

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Speaker 1: support from Lindsay Hoffman, Julian Weller, Jess Crane Chitch and

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Speaker 1: Nikki Etour. Until next week, See you later, Virgins Chow