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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: We're here with the almost famous podcast. We have Don

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Speaker 2: and Charity here. I will be honest and I'm not

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Speaker 2: blowing smoke. You two are people I just really admire

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Speaker 2: and have really thought, like you know, I was just

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Speaker 2: telling Charity, I think my my money was on you

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Speaker 2: to make it and not in this weird bachelor. It's

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Speaker 2: just like, it's cool when people actually meet each other

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Speaker 2: and find love and it's something to celebrate because if not,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why we do this.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know who you do this show.

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Speaker 2: We were talking a little bit earlier about wedding plans.

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Speaker 2: Obviously that's a common question probably for you two. I

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Speaker 2: was hearing about the Nigerian wedding sounds absolutely amazing. But

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Speaker 2: I was also looking at a photo shoot the two

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Speaker 2: of you just recently did with I think it was

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Speaker 2: called Mudalicha. Is that right that I get the name right, Mundaluchi,

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Speaker 2: And I want to start with you dotten on that.

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Speaker 2: You guys, this is such a cool shoot. It really is,

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Speaker 2: and we were kind of talking about it as you

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Speaker 2: walked up a little bit ago. But I want to

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Speaker 2: hear from you why you guys decided to do this

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Speaker 2: shoot and looking at these pictures now, like what does

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Speaker 2: this represent to you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the shoot fell into our labs. I

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Speaker 4: feel like you've probably like explained that.

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Speaker 5: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: How we kind of like.

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Speaker 4: Oh, okay, okay, awesome. Yeah, So I'll start at the

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Speaker 4: beginning kind of. They emailed us shortly after our Afar

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Speaker 4: episode and like, let's do it. And then the funny,

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Speaker 4: you know, whole caveat is like we weren't sure because

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Speaker 4: we were so new and everything at the time, they

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Speaker 4: weren't sure if it was real, so we kind of

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Speaker 4: thought it was a scam, so we kind of left

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Speaker 4: it ignored, and then eventually, like after like coming back up,

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Speaker 4: we were like, oh, it's actually a real magazine. And

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Speaker 4: then we reached our back out to them. They had

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Speaker 4: reached out to a couple more times to like, hey,

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Speaker 4: let's do this thing, and then luckily we did some

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Speaker 4: more research for like, oh no, it's a real thing.

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Speaker 4: We reached back out to them, and then they just

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Speaker 4: put together this amazing team for this shoot and like

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Speaker 4: such a short amount of time and it obviously like

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Speaker 4: the big thing is it helped celebrate like my heritage,

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Speaker 4: which was showing a little bit on the episodes, and

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Speaker 4: you know, I think that's something it's nice to do

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Speaker 4: something that's tied into that, you know, and adds a

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Speaker 4: really cool to like be able to have some traditional

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Speaker 4: and it just came out amazing. The team was unreal

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Speaker 4: like so talented and from the people that did our

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Speaker 4: you know, dress up wardrobe, it was just from start

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Speaker 4: to finish videography, So just such an amazing experience and

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Speaker 4: just super grateful that that, you know, is an opportunity

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Speaker 4: But like just feeling like really happy that we're you know,

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Speaker 2: Where do those photo Where would those photos live now?

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Speaker 2: At least within your lives?

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Speaker 6: Well, I hope to get a few of them printed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, they have like online, yeah copy and then

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Speaker 4: they'll have I think so like pre orders now for

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Speaker 4: like real copies and then obviously we'll probably have both.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, the prints aren't going anywhere.

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Speaker 7: I was like, I was telling him, it's gonna be

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Speaker 7: that photo shoot was us he loping, and so they're like,

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Speaker 7: oh my god, the wedding photos. But I'm like, no,

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Speaker 7: our wedding photos have to be just as good, if.

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Speaker 4: Not that, And the thing that was put together in

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Speaker 4: like what three weeks a month, you know, like all

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Speaker 4: of testaments to that team they were able to do that.

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Speaker 4: But that was like like that could have been like

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Speaker 5: So yeah, like again, could have never guessed.

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Speaker 4: That that's something that I would be involved in personally, right,

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Speaker 3: Wild what happens post show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not like you know, I think people

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Speaker 2: Like they weren't just doing it to like you know,

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Speaker 2: was like, no, they cared enough to like take some

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Speaker 2: time to make this special for me too. Those are

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Speaker 2: the moments that stand out to me. Now, don we

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Speaker 2: just talked with Charity about like kind of life since show,

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Speaker 2: and she you know, doted on you and talked about

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Speaker 2: how great you know you are. And I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's any question for anybody. I don't think anybody was

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Speaker 2: doubting it. I want to ask you kind of the

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Speaker 2: same question though, when it comes to like the last

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Speaker 2: you know, year of life, what are some things that

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Speaker 2: have stood out to you as like pivotal moments obviously

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Speaker 2: building up to where you're at today, which Charity would

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Speaker 2: describe as a really like great place as a couple.

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Speaker 2: So what like what moments have stood out to you

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Speaker 2: that have separated themselves from this craziness and this chaos

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Speaker 2: that is the Bachelor.

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Speaker 4: I mean to start, I would say, like dance some

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Speaker 4: of the stars, right, if you want to go post Bachelor,

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Speaker 4: it's still in that world.

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Speaker 3: But even for you that stood out like even that.

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Speaker 4: That yeah, that period, that time period, for sure, it

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Speaker 4: we're like we can do it soon New Year, when

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Speaker 5: During that time.

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Speaker 3: And I want to pause.

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Speaker 2: Youve though, how like, I'm sure it is a weird experience.

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Speaker 2: I never got to do it. Like what was that

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Speaker 2: like for you as like a spouse or a partner,

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Speaker 2: I guess, and a spouse that'd probably be like maybe

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Speaker 3: Like what did life look like?

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Speaker 2: Would she just come home exhausted and you're just like

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Speaker 4: Like what what did that look like exactly that I

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Speaker 5: That just kind of added to it.

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Speaker 4: But it's always, yeah, just really just trying to make

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Speaker 4: sure that you know somebody's there and there was no pressure,

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Speaker 4: you know that saying there was no pressure no, like

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Speaker 5: There's time.

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Speaker 4: We're just kind of knew that there's just gonna be

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Speaker 4: living together, that's a huge step. Like I don't know

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Speaker 4: these things. And you know, people talk about I guess

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Speaker 4: put yourself in a good position. Yeah, and that's what

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Speaker 4: she was able to do with me.

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Speaker 2: So what a good statement, Like that's like a good quote,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's like this is how things were supposed

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Speaker 4: like anyways, it's been unique and to see it in

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Speaker 2: So so that Dance with the Stars obviously a big,

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Speaker 3: What else is stood out to you through like last year,

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Speaker 7: Like moving in to get like actually moving in because

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we moved, but it was just like okay, like

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Speaker 7: I was like yeah, yeah, yeah, to make our lives

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Speaker 6: Not going back to work.

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Speaker 7: You're always working, but you know, it's just like that

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Speaker 5: Back to back shows.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, your New York naturally is the next

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Speaker 5: And so it's been interesting how these.

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Speaker 4: Like not even I wouldn't say it not hurdles, but

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Speaker 4: these events have happened at these like like really like

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Speaker 4: feels like consistent timeline in the past year that we

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Speaker 4: feel like we've kind of like you know, been able

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Speaker 4: to kind of learn a lot from about each other

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Speaker 4: and continue to like apply the things that we do

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Speaker 4: no and you know, therapy, which is we did it

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Speaker 4: preemptively before, you know, like when there were no issues,

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Speaker 4: right and not even a matter of if there's issues,

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Speaker 4: it's just getting in there and talking things out and

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Speaker 4: happy is just feels like a big achievement.

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Speaker 6: I was like, I also want to see you.

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Speaker 3: I look up to you guys.

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Speaker 2: I respect you to I can't wait to see what

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Speaker 6: I gotta see it.

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Speaker 2: I did see all the girls in the eighteen fairway

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