WEBVTT - TechStuff Tidbits: The Terahertz Gap

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tex Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tex Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and Health at Tech Area. It's time for a text

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff tidbits. And recently, my colleague Joe McCormick, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a co host on Stuff to Blow Your Mind, is

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<v Speaker 1>also a former writer for the Forward Thinking video series,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was also a co host on the Accompanying

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast with Me back in the day. He reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to me and asked if I had ever done an

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<v Speaker 1>episode about the Terra Hurts Gap, and I had not,

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<v Speaker 1>and figured it would be a perfect candidate for a

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff Tidbits episode. So, what the heck is the

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<v Speaker 1>Terra Hurts Gap. What it has to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic spectrum. Now, this is the distribution of all the

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<v Speaker 1>different kinds of electro magnetic energy, from radio waves to

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<v Speaker 1>visible light to stuff like gamma radiation. All of that

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<v Speaker 1>is energy that falls along the electromagnetic spectrum. And we

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<v Speaker 1>describe energy on this spectrum in a couple of different ways,

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<v Speaker 1>really three ways. Uh. Namely, we describe it by the

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<v Speaker 1>energy's wavelength of the individual waves of that particular energy. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's frequency, which is related to the wavelength, and also

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of photonic energy, kind of like how much

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<v Speaker 1>oomph this radiation has, which is also related to wavelength

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<v Speaker 1>and frequency. So wavelength, as the name implies, describes how

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<v Speaker 1>long that specific kind of energies waves are. So we

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<v Speaker 1>can think of this energy as traveling in waves. If

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<v Speaker 1>we want to get quantum with it, we can also

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<v Speaker 1>think of it as traveling and like particles. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get into quantum mechanics quite yet. So

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about wavelength, we are talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>measurable distance. So if we were to plot out a

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<v Speaker 1>wavelength kind of like a sine wave on graph paper,

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<v Speaker 1>we would measure the distance from the peak of one

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<v Speaker 1>wave to the peak of the next wave. Now, these

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<v Speaker 1>go into an incredible range of of wavelengths. If we

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<v Speaker 1>look at something like the extremely low frequency band of

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<v Speaker 1>radio waves, that includes wavelengths that are up to a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand kilometers long, so a hundred thousand kilometers of wavelength.

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<v Speaker 1>Now on the flip side of the electromagnetic spectrum, we

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<v Speaker 1>have gamma radiation. The wavelength for a gamma wave is

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<v Speaker 1>unimaginably tiny, like a few tenths of an angstrom, and

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<v Speaker 1>an angstrom is one ten billionth of a meter, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a scale that's an order smaller than

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<v Speaker 1>a nanometer. A nanome there is one billions of a meter.

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<v Speaker 1>So gamma waves are really really really small. Frequency on

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<v Speaker 1>the electro magnetic spectrum, on the other hand, describes how

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<v Speaker 1>many wave lengths of a particular type of energy passes

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<v Speaker 1>a certain point in a given amount of time. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the unit we use is the hurts, and one hurts

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<v Speaker 1>would be equivalent to a single wave length taking a

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<v Speaker 1>full second to pass a given point. Uh. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>we were to look at the extremely low frequency side

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<v Speaker 1>of the spectrum, where we have those super super long

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<v Speaker 1>wavelengths like a hundred thousand kilometer long waves, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a frequency of three hurts at this point, which

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<v Speaker 1>would mean that three of those waves would pass any

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<v Speaker 1>given point in a single second. Now, all of these

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<v Speaker 1>energies are traveling at the same speed, so none of

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<v Speaker 1>them are going faster than another radio waves at the

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<v Speaker 1>same speed as a gamma wave. They're all moving at

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light. I mean light is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the electro magnetic spectrum, so gamma rays do not move

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<v Speaker 1>faster than radio waves. But because gamma rays are so

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly small and radio waves are so incredibly long, a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot more gamma radiation is going to pass a

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<v Speaker 1>given point in a second than radio radiation. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>analogy I like to use is imagined that you have

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<v Speaker 1>two lanes on a highway, and in the right lane

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<v Speaker 1>is a line of buses and they're essentially traveling bumper

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<v Speaker 1>to bumper at fifty miles per hour. In the left lane,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a line of any any smart cars. They're

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<v Speaker 1>also traveling bumper to bumper. They're also traveling at fifty

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<v Speaker 1>miles per hour. And we put you at a certain

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<v Speaker 1>point on the highway. We give you a stop watch,

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<v Speaker 1>and we tell you to count how many buses pas

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<v Speaker 1>buy you in a span of let's say ten seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>So over ten seconds, you count the number of buses

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<v Speaker 1>that pass your point. Then we have you do the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, but now you're counting the smart cars that

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<v Speaker 1>pass you. Well, you're obviously going to count way more

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<v Speaker 1>smart cars than you will busses in those ten seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>because multiple smart cars can fit in the same physical

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<v Speaker 1>space as a single bus. So yeah, the vehicles are

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<v Speaker 1>all traveling at the same speed, but the size of

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle, which relates to the length of a wave,

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<v Speaker 1>means that you're gonna get way more of the smaller

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<v Speaker 1>ones than the bigger ones in the same amount of time.

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<v Speaker 1>As for photonic energy, that also increases as wavelengths decrease

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<v Speaker 1>and frequencies increase. So gamma radiation packs way more of

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<v Speaker 1>an energetic punch than say, an extremely low frequency radio wave. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>over time, we've learned how to harness many of the

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<v Speaker 1>frequencies that are in the electromagna that ex spectrum in

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<v Speaker 1>order to do specific kinds of stuff, And there's some

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<v Speaker 1>messy overlaps and definitions largely depend upon the source. So

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<v Speaker 1>while I can give you ranges for different types of

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic energy and say like oh, it ranges from this

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<v Speaker 1>wavelength to this wavelength or this frequency to this frequency. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>different definitions can actually have that have a different starting

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<v Speaker 1>place in different ending place, so it gets a little difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, you could argue that radio waves range and

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<v Speaker 1>frequency from three hurts to thirty billion hurts or thirty

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<v Speaker 1>giga hurts, but that actually overlaps with what is broadly

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<v Speaker 1>considered the microwave range of frequencies, which according to the

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<v Speaker 1>most common definitions, go from one giga hurts or one

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<v Speaker 1>billion hurts up to one hundred billion hurts or one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred giga hurts and frequency. So there you would see

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<v Speaker 1>there's some overlap right between one and thirty giga hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have overlap between the microwave range and the

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<v Speaker 1>radio range. Um. By the way, we could also say

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<v Speaker 1>that the microwave range corresponds with wavelengths that are between

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<v Speaker 1>three millimeters to three millimeters. Remember, as the wavelength goes down,

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<v Speaker 1>the frequency goes up, and vice versa. Now let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about terra hurts and the tara hurts gap. So Tara

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<v Speaker 1>in this instance refers to trillion in the metric system.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we go by the different prefixes that we

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<v Speaker 1>typically use in this realm, kilo means a thousand so

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<v Speaker 1>akilo hurts is a thousand hurts. Mega refers to one million.

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<v Speaker 1>Mega hurts would be a million hurts. Giga is one billion,

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<v Speaker 1>we already mentioned that, and then tara is one trillion.

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<v Speaker 1>So an electro magnetic energy with a frequency of one

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<v Speaker 1>tera hurts would mean you would have one trillion wavelengths

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<v Speaker 1>of this energy pass a given spot in one second. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a section of the electromagnetic spectrum that sits between

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<v Speaker 1>the microwave range of spectrums and where infrared begins, and

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<v Speaker 1>it starts around point one terror hurts and frequency, or

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<v Speaker 1>around three millimeters if we're looking at wavelength, and it

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<v Speaker 1>goes up to around ten terror hurts or thirty micrometers

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<v Speaker 1>in wavelength. And even that is a little fuzzy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it all depends on your point of view and

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<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about. How we're talking about harnessing terror

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<v Speaker 1>hurts frequencies, But it's in this little section of radiation

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<v Speaker 1>tucked between microwaves and infrared where we haven't quite really

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<v Speaker 1>harnessed the energy to its fullest potential. Uh So, we

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<v Speaker 1>can use microwaves to do stuff like set up communication

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<v Speaker 1>systems where I mean you can use them to heat

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<v Speaker 1>up food in a microwave oven, or potentially you can

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<v Speaker 1>use them as a means of transmitting energy to distant

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<v Speaker 1>receptors for stuff like say space elevators. You wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>generating energy this way. It would literally be you generate

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<v Speaker 1>energy in one spot or you know, you I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you're not technically generating, but you're harnessing energy in one spot,

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<v Speaker 1>transmitting it over distance with microwaves, and receiving it in

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<v Speaker 1>some distant spot. So it's basic like antenna kind of approach,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're talking about energy, not communications. You're not modulating

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<v Speaker 1>the signal for that purpose. We can leverage infrared to

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<v Speaker 1>create systems that let us see and what would otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>be darkness. You know, thermal vision works in this way

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<v Speaker 1>where we can uh see thermal energy, which is infrared energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Or we can use infrared to create all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of heating elements, and there's even like infrared lasers

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<v Speaker 1>and things of that nature. And then, of course, later

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<v Speaker 1>on we have the visible light spectrum, which a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us rely upon every single day directly, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of our technology is centered on generating or

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<v Speaker 1>exploiting visible light. And then at higher frequencies we have

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like X rays, which we've leveraged for medical imaging

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<v Speaker 1>and more. But this little band of about point one

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<v Speaker 1>terror hurts to ten terror hurts has proven to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little more tricky for us to lean on. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>explain more after we come back from this quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's think of it this way. This range

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<v Speaker 1>of frequencies in the electro magnetic spectrum kind of represents

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<v Speaker 1>a zone that exists between the world of electronics and

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<v Speaker 1>the world of optics. Optics obviously being technology that deals

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<v Speaker 1>with light in some way, and in the realm of tech,

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<v Speaker 1>you can almost think of it as kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>no man's land, at least for broad technology. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a dead zone. Uh, this is the terror Hurts gap.

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<v Speaker 1>So we can rely on technology like high speed transistors

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<v Speaker 1>and oscillating circuits to create lower frequency electromagnetic radiation. So

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<v Speaker 1>this would be like microwaves and radio waves and that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. We can use electronics to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>For the higher frequency stuff, we can use semiconductor lasers

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<v Speaker 1>to produce that kind of radiation from you know, visible

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<v Speaker 1>light all the way up to X rays. But between

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<v Speaker 1>these two we have that dang Terra Hurts gap, and

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<v Speaker 1>the range in the Tarro Hurts gap is one where

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<v Speaker 1>we can't really produce those frequencies using either of those

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<v Speaker 1>primary methods. We have to go with other methods. And

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<v Speaker 1>I could rattle off those methods, but honestly, it would

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<v Speaker 1>start to sound like science fiction. You know, words like

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<v Speaker 1>quantum would be coming up, and the point being that

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<v Speaker 1>they aren't your run of the mill approaches to creating

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<v Speaker 1>electro magnetic radiation. It's the type of stuff you find

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<v Speaker 1>in super high tech laboratories. However, this doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>no one has any idea regarding how we might exploit

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<v Speaker 1>terror hurts radiation in the future. In fact, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty rich area of research among physicists, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that astronomers and cosmologists already use in order to

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<v Speaker 1>study the universe. So labs around the world have discovered

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<v Speaker 1>various methodologies for generating terror hurts frequencies or for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>detecting terror hurts radiation. But these are exceptions and so

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<v Speaker 1>far have not evolved to a point where we could say,

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<v Speaker 1>scale them up and mass produce them or make efficient

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<v Speaker 1>use of them, where it would make sense to start

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<v Speaker 1>using that technology for um, you know, broader purposes. For

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<v Speaker 1>these very specific, narrow purposes where you're talking about laboratory research,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like cutting edge research. It makes sense there

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<v Speaker 1>because you could be hitting some incredible breakthroughs that you

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise wouldn't without the techno apology, but for practical everyday use,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't yet make sense. We haven't correcked that code yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not to say there's a lack of interest there,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are certain properties of terra Hurts frequency energies

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of limit their applicability. So, for example, the

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<v Speaker 1>heart's atmosphere is pretty darned good at absorbing electromagnetic radiation

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<v Speaker 1>in that tara Hurts gap range of frequencies. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about these these forms of radiation able to travel

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a couple dozen meters before they get absorbed by

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<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere. So that makes this band of electromagnetic energy

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<v Speaker 1>unsuitable for stuff like say terrestrial communication systems, because you

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<v Speaker 1>would have to put your transmitters and your receivers so

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<v Speaker 1>close together you might as well just start shouting out

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<v Speaker 1>the window. Now, you could potentially create short distance networking

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<v Speaker 1>systems that used Tara Hurts radiation to transmit data, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to make an indoor Wi Fi network,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that this technology could potentially do. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the devices we rely on for wireless networks have a

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<v Speaker 1>fairly limited range already, so it's not like that would

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<v Speaker 1>be unusual to us, and you could potentially have a

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<v Speaker 1>terra hurts radiation based indoor Wi Fi system that was

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<v Speaker 1>super high throughput if we found a way to generate

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<v Speaker 1>terror hurts frequencies that was cost effective and efficient. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, liquid water will absorb tera hurts radiation,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's no real application where we could use it

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<v Speaker 1>for anything that would involve water. Uh, ditto for metals.

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<v Speaker 1>It is highly reflected off of metals, So you could

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<v Speaker 1>say there's some limited use cases for terror hurts radiation

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<v Speaker 1>for things like communications. However, there are other properties that

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<v Speaker 1>this energy has that are potentially of huge benefit, and

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<v Speaker 1>in fact it's being used in that way in some

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<v Speaker 1>limited cases. So, for example, these frequencies are capable of

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<v Speaker 1>penetrating some types of matter, including body tissue, to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain degree. That makes them kind of like X rays,

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<v Speaker 1>But unlike X rays, Terror hurts rain radiation is non ionizing,

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<v Speaker 1>so that means it doesn't have that photonic energy that

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<v Speaker 1>would be required to say, strip electrons from their atoms.

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<v Speaker 1>So X rays are an ionizing form of radiation. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the consequences of this is that exposure to X

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<v Speaker 1>rays can cause cellular damage. This ionizing radiation can damage

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<v Speaker 1>cells and you can lead to serious things like like cancer. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The energy and the terror Hurts gap lacks that ionizing capability,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would be much more safe to use for

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<v Speaker 1>medical imaging. However, because the wavelengths in this frequency band

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<v Speaker 1>are longer the next rays. Remember, higher the frequency, the

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<v Speaker 1>shorter the wavelength. So this is a lower frequency, longer

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<v Speaker 1>wavelength energy and you know, it's actually even longer than

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<v Speaker 1>visible light. Visible light is is a higher frequency than

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<v Speaker 1>the terror Hurts gap. That means if we were to

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<v Speaker 1>use devices that generated electromagnetic waves in this gap band

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<v Speaker 1>for the purposes of imaging for medical purposes, we would

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<v Speaker 1>actually end up with lower resolution pictures than we would

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<v Speaker 1>if we were to use X rays. That the wavelengths

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<v Speaker 1>are literally too large to give us the same resolution

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<v Speaker 1>we would get with an X ray, So we would

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<v Speaker 1>have to develop methods to enhance the image quality uh

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<v Speaker 1>that the we would get from these terror Hurts technologies

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<v Speaker 1>if in fact, we were to start using them for

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<v Speaker 1>medical imaging. Another potential use for terror Hurts radiation is

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<v Speaker 1>to examine non conducting materials because, like I said, it

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<v Speaker 1>can penetrate paper, plastic, wood, ceramics, and cardboard, So water

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<v Speaker 1>and metals are out, but this other stuff is totally in.

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<v Speaker 1>So theoretically we could build this technology that could be

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<v Speaker 1>used to scan for stuff like prohibited materials like weapons

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, biologically hazardous materials, and it could even

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<v Speaker 1>be a remote system. You could use Tara Hurts radiation

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<v Speaker 1>to scan someone remotely. The radiation itself would be harmless,

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<v Speaker 1>and as long as you weren't too far away where

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<v Speaker 1>the Tara Hurts radiation would be absorbed by the atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 1>you could scan folks safely and remotely. Astronomers have actually

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<v Speaker 1>been using Tara Hurts frequency detection for a while now

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<v Speaker 1>to measure stuff like the cosmic microwave background radiation that

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<v Speaker 1>in turn is connected to the earliest moments of our universe,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the moments after expansion or even during expansion.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of like being able to peer back

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<v Speaker 1>into the earliest days of the universe, um like the

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<v Speaker 1>evolution of the universe in the in the early early

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<v Speaker 1>times after the first instant. And we might use Terror

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<v Speaker 1>Hurts radiation in the future to do stuff like improve

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing processes. You can build machines that use terra hurts

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<v Speaker 1>scanning to look for flaws and manufactured components, for example.

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<v Speaker 1>But in order to do all that, we first have

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<v Speaker 1>to create technologies that can generate terror hurts radiation without

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<v Speaker 1>relying on the super advanced tech that you'd only find

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<v Speaker 1>sophisticated physics labs. And we're just not there yet, though

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of experimentation in the space. My

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<v Speaker 1>guess is that the terror Hurts gap is a temporary thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really just a way for us to say there's

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<v Speaker 1>this one band of frequencies within the electromagnetic spectrum that

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<v Speaker 1>will probably end up relying on heavily in the future

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<v Speaker 1>for all sorts of applications. But first we have to

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<v Speaker 1>find scalable and economic ways to create the tech that

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<v Speaker 1>generates those frequencies. So it's really just a matter of time.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what the terror Hurts gap is and what

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