WEBVTT - Nick Kroll and Shackleton's Failed Expedition 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:03.159 If you had to eat a man or a dog first, 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:04.200 where would you go? 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.200 Dog? I mean, if you're going to put me in 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:09.559 that like Sophie's choice situation. 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.520 Yeah, yeah, me Jeff, Oh yeah me too. 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.200 You're you're thinking real hard about that, but but we're 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:23.840 gonna let it go all right. Today I am joined 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:31.400 by the hilarious inimitable Nick Kroll. Nick, Welcome to snap Foo. 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:32.600 Thanks so much for coming on. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.560 Thanks for having me ed, and thanks for using the 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:36.600 word inimitable. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.720 Yeah, it should be inimitatable. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:41.680 Is that what it is. 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.159 That's what it means, That's what it means. It but 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.560 it's inimitable, which is a weird one. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.160 Yeah, and I'm so excited to be here on SNAE 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:53.400 fou as well. We are. 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.040 I'm so glad to have you. Obviously, we have been 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.280 friends a very long time. I was trying to trace 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.880 back the origin of our friendship and I can't. I 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:03.480 couldn't do it. Well. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.520 I I have a memory that you don't have, which 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.160 is we in New York when you were starting out, 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.600 you would do these shows at clubs called like Bringer shows. 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:17.640 You'd have to bring five to ten people to a 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.639 comedy club, so that you could like get a tape 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.039 made of you at a comedy club to prove that 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.080 you had. And I did my first Bringer show ever 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:32.120 at the Boston Comedy Club in New York City, ironically 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.880 named and you were the host of that show. At 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.240 this point, ed you were already flying high. You had 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:42.280 been in a Dale Earnhardt super Bowl commercial. You were 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.200 you were big, you were you were big time. You 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.960 had been in a national you had been in a 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.440 network national TV commercial. You were a big deal. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:57.600 That was commercial. Yeah, yeah, it was a big deal, Junior. 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:01.440 That was my first like big acting booking of my life. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.520 Yeah, trust me, it was a big deal for me 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.400 to it just to be in the same room as 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.639 someone who had been in the same room as They'll Earnhardt, Junior. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.040 But you were incredibly nice to me that day, as 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:18.480 you have been every day since then. And it really 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:22.560 it still tickles me that, like that we're friends and 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.960 that I am doing you this massive favor of being 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:25.800 on the podcast. 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.359 I mean, this is this is uh, you know, this 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:33.119 is payback for your first stage to take your first 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.919 stand up taping or whatever the hell was. Absolutely, before 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.760 I get into the tragedy, the story the snap who 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.239 that I am going to tell you. Do you have 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:46.920 any major snaff who's from your life that you would 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:47.880 like to share? 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.400 So I was away with my whole family. We were 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.440 in I think Puerto Rico on a family vacation around 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.519 I think, you know, like Christmas vacation, and so my 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.960 dad thought a cool thing to do would be to 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:07.080 organize a deep sea fishing trip for my mom's birthday. 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.799 Because my dad knows nothing about what is my mom 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:16.200 would enjoy, so they packed us, like the hotel packed 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:20.160 us a bunch of like tuna sandwiches, because you know, 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:24.240 Puerto Rico is famous for its tuna fish sandwiches. My 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:29.359 family ranged from about eight to fifteen, four of us 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.200 my parents, and you're the youngest, right, I'm the youngest. Yeah, 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.640 you're eight. I'm eight or nine years old. And we 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.560 get on the boat. We're going out to the deep 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:46.600 sea and the waves are horrible, like we later found 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:51.400 out that a tanker had capsized that day in the Atlantic, 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:56.840 so the waves were massive. We were just getting hummeled 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.760 and we all were sitting there and the entire family 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:08.080 puked our tuna fish sandwiches out all over all over 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.360 the place except for my dad, who just sat in 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:18.159 the captain's chair gripping like the chair turning. I'd never seen, 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.679 you know when people say like, uh, he turned green, 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.120 like I've never seen it really since before since, but 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:28.760 my dad turned fully like like a shar truse, and 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:33.560 all of us just absolutely rapped all over this boat 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.440 and it was like happy birthday, mom. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:43.920 This is this is perfect. And the best part is 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:52.760 like a tuna fish sandish sandwich smells horrendous to begin with, fresh, 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.719 like a fresh sandwich right out of the deli's like it. Oh, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.320 it's kind of a gross thing already, and then to 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:05.320 eat it and then to regurgitate it, yeah, is just 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:11.120 an unthinkable stench. It's not ideal. No, well, that's very tragic, 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.920 and I'm very very sorry. But this is a perfect 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.480 lead in to our snapoo for today. I'm going to 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:25.040 tell you the story of Ernest Shackleton's fateful expedition to Antarctica. 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.760 Do you know much about this? To begin with? 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.160 I have heard of this, but I have no recall 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:32.200 of it. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.640 It is a fascinating and wild story. Are you ready 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.839 to jump in? Nick Kroll? 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.920 I'm strapped into the Captain's share. The waves are big. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.760 I've finished my tuna sandwich and I'm ready to go. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:48.040 All right, let's do it. 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:48.920 Let's do it. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.039 I hope, I hope this story is good enough to 0:05:52.040 --> 0:06:01.280 get you to toss that sandwich. Let's start out by 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:05.160 getting to know our protagonist, Ernest Shackleton. First off, can 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.960 we talk about the name, because it is such an 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.760 inherently badass name. I mean, he sounds like a like 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:16.320 a seventies action movie star that should be played by 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:20.920 Charles Bronson, or like the president's fixer. Get me Shackleton. 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.920 I agree, I mean, and the but then that, but 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.840 then the first name being Ernest also speaks to like 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.160 a sense of character inside of that. 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.160 There you go. I always thought Nick Kroll was kind 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.320 of a badass name. Get me Nick Kroll, Get me Kroll? 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:39.360 Yeah yeah. 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:43.479 Aed Elms is like the guy peeling turnips on the porch. 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:45.040 Here. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:52.440 Oh yeah, hey yeah, I yeah, but like i'd say, 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:57.719 one of the top turnip tossers in the in the county. 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.120 Well thank you. Well, As as we will soon learn, 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.640 Ernest Shackleton very much lived up to that badass name. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.560 Born in eighteen seventy four in Ireland. Shackleton moved to 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.560 London at age ten, but the whole sitting in a 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.080 classroom thing not so much for young Ernest. By the 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:19.000 age sixteen, he bailed on formal education and just like 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.320 set out to see because I guess that's what you 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.240 did in the eighteen nineties when you had a short 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:28.040 attention span and there was no adderall hadn't been invented yet. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.320 Now Shackleton had a pretty striking appearance. I think we 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.440 have a picture of him. Can we take a look here? 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:42.560 Less I'm seeing less like Polar Adventurer and more junior 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:43.800 high music teacher. 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.120 Uh huh, ed, Can I ask how many of the 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:51.080 people that you have traced in this show look like 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.240 they could be relatives of yours? 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.280 That's fair. He does look like my dad a little bit. 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:01.880 He actually looks a lot like my grandfather. Yeah, I 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:07.000 might be related to Ernest Jackleton. I gotta dig into this. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.760 I would not put it past you, all right, But 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.840 to answer your question, it's a prerequisite we only talk 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.800 about people who look vaguely like me or my relatives. 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.240 So let's set the stage a little bit, get a 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.400 little historical context. Now, you might think that in the 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.480 early nineteen hundreds, a hair brained scheme like crossing Antarctica 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:32.600 would be a crazy outlier, like Elon Musk trying to 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.880 go to Mars or me trying to take my kids 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:39.360 on any ten minute hike. But actually you'd be wrong, 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.800 because around this time, no less than ten different countries 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:47.520 sent out seventeen major expeditions. In fact, Antarctica was so 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:51.319 infested with explorers this period became known as the Heroic 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:57.959 Age of Antarctic exploration. I'm sad we missed that age, Nick. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.200 I will say, I've been to Ushwa, which is in 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.760 the southernmost tip of Argentina. 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.119 Oh very close, all right, which. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.880 Was like less than five hundred miles from Antarctica. I 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.080 could see Antarctica. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.440 You could see it. Yeah, wow, Oh that's. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.920 Cool and it was not hard at all. So whatever 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:20.440 is about to happen? To Shackleton? 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:26.040 Like, no big deal, get a grip, bro Yeah all right, well, 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:30.640 let's get into it. Ernie was on a lot of 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:35.079 these early expeditions and even set some impressive records marching 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.560 further south than anyone had before him. He was even 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:43.880 knighted for some of his early exploration down there but 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:48.280 then Norwegian explorer Rolled Amensen would become the first to 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:52.760 reach the South Pole in nineteen eleven. So Shackleton then 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.480 set his sights on the next prize, which was to 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:59.600 be the first person to cross the entire continent from 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.680 to see. Now. I don't know how about you, Nick, 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:08.040 but I'm I'm concerned about Shackleton's odds here. It's like 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.880 the early nineteen hundreds. This is not an easy trek. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.839 Ed. I have enough problems getting across town. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.720 Okay, can we talk about the bumper to bumper or 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:24.040 shall I say bow to stern traffic all around Antarctica. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:25.760 It is a doozy down there. 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.200 It's a doozy of a continent to cross. I will 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:34.439 tell you that. 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:39.760 On December fifth, nineteen fourteen, Shackleton sets sail for Antarctica 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.839 from South Georgia, which is a tiny British territory deep 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:49.120 in the Southern Atlantic Ocean. His ship is the HMS Endurance, 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:53.200 which is another badass name, if I may say. The 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:57.360 plan was to establish a land base on the Wettell 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:03.360 Sea coast and then just start sledding across the Antarctic. Now, 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.000 let's keep in mind it is nineteen fourteen. You can't 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.439 just run to ARII and like pick up some capeline 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.880 bass layers and a gortex shell. No, you are headed 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:16.160 to Antarctica and all of your clothes are basically made 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:21.560 out of like leather, wool, and wood. So it's it 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.520 ain't comfy. I guess that is what I'm trying to say. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.040 What would you pack on this trip, Nick Kral? What 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:26.680 would you bring? 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:33.720 I would bring my hypoallergenic pillow. I would bring my 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:38.920 penguin du Lingo. Did you say penguin do a lingo? Yeah, 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.880 if you got to talk to penguins. Antarctica famous for. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.520 The language, so you can learn penguin language. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.560 Yeah, so I can learn penguin worst. 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.720 I thought you actually had a penguin named Duo Lingo. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.400 Yeah, I wish. So. 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.560 The crew of this expedition consists of twenty seven men. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.480 Actually it's twenty eight because there was a stowaway. There 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:06.000 are sixty nine sled dogs and a single tomcat that 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.440 they named missus Chippy. So yes, that is a male 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:15.880 cat with a female name. Because Shackleton was evidently very progressive, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.320 any anyone like jumped to mind, like who you would 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.880 want to bring on this. Who would be in your crew? 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:25.760 You're gonna fit have some people who know how to 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:30.400 take care of dogs. You want some people who can 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.320 read a you know, a compass, although I don't know 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.960 what happens to your compass when you go to a pole. 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.480 I wonder if it goes haywire when you go to 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:38.920 a pole. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.839 It's probably not super helpful down there. That's a good point. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.959 And that there, it's almost like celestial navigation down there. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:52.440 I think, oh, that's cool, all right, So they're often 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:57.800 running on this expedition. Two days in they encountered a 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:02.520 huge barrier of ice arounding Antarctica, which is usually there, 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.439 I gather, but this one was particularly bad. They were 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:09.120 expecting to be able to sail all the way to land, 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.280 but they didn't get there, and by the following month, 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:18.280 on January eighteenth, the HMS Endurance got completely stuck in 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:22.560 the ice. As one of the crew members, Thomas Ordley's 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.760 put it, they were frozen like an almond in the 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.120 middle of a chocolate bar, which I think, right, it's 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.120 a kind of a weirdly yummy metaphor for a life 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:36.599 threatening situation. Yeah, I would have gone with something a 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:42.880 little darker, maybe maybe an almond stuck in dark chocolate. Shackleton, Yeah, 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:47.560 there you go, Shackleton, his men, all the dogs, and 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.720 of course missus Chippy had no choice but to simply 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:56.120 hunker down and wait out a very long winter winter 0:13:56.200 --> 0:14:00.800 in Antarctica, probably not real mellow, and just to make 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.320 things a little more dire, on May first, the sun 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.680 fully vanished for four whole months. Now, Nick, I know 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.840 you're a flat earther, but this is actually a crazy 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.120 phenomenon due to the Earth's tilt, where in the North 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.480 and South Poles at certain times of the year have 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:22.240 either total sunlight or total blackout for months on end. 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.440 So in the wintertime total blackout. 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.160 I am in a total blackout right now. 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.480 Absolutely, I've known you a long time, Like a good 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.400 sixty percent of your day is blackout. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.120 God, and I'm just following the celestial signs to get 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.960 through the day. No, it just sounds like a nightmare 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.280 to be in the dark going across the continent nobody 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:47.480 has ever been to and trying to guide yourself, hoping 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.600 that you're going in the right direction. 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.160 But also you're not even on land yet, like you're 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.760 in the You're still in the ocean, just stuck on 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.920 ice like that. That doesn't feel safe to be eaten in 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:04.120 the now right? No, are you, Nick Kroll? Are you 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.520 good in a crisis like if this, if you're in 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.840 this situation, are you just like freaking out, breaking out 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.720 in hives, like panicking, screaming at everybody? Are you like 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.920 pitching in like staying optimistic. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.280 I don't know if I'm good in a crisis, but 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:23.360 I do not freak out. My blood pressure drops. I 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:29.440 get very calm. I don't know if I'm effective or helpful, 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.920 but I am definitely I don't like panic. 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.440 I've seen you in a crisis. I've actually I remember 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:43.040 we were set to do some shows at the Telluride 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:47.960 Comedy Festival, and we went to dinner ahead of time, 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:56.280 and you were acting a little strange, and you got 0:15:56.280 --> 0:16:00.520 a little quiet at dinner, and that's when you told 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.200 us that that your edibles were kicking in. You'd had 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:09.200 some of that sweet Colorado edible and uh, and I 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.240 started to panic. I was like, we got to do 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.520 these shows. We're we're improving together. Where you got you know, 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.320 a lot of us are are counting on each other. 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:23.400 You were so chill and you wrote it so beautifully. 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.840 You were having fun, you were you got you got 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.840 real giggly, but it was like it was definitely a 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.680 lot more than you were expecting. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.320 Yeah, it's just one of the last times I probably 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:38.640 did edibles, because every time I'd ever done edibles, it's 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:40.680 a massive snat foo. 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:46.640 It's just like you can't can't go well. So now 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.240 by September, the pressure of the ice all around the 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:54.000 HMS Endurance is getting even more intense because they're just 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.160 these huge ice flows that are that are being pushed 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.320 by the wind and the currents, and they're they're starting 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.680 to crush the ship. And by October, as the ice 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.600 constricted the ship more and more, it began to list 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.320 over dramatically to one side and was even taking on water. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:14.359 So Shackleton orders everyone to abandon ship. They set up 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.199 camp on the ice. And here's a fun detail. They 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:21.080 even made little dog a glues for the dogs, which 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:22.960 they called dog glues. 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:24.000 Aw. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.480 If you live in a winter climate, think about making 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.240 a doglue, because it's it's unbelievably adorable. 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:34.040 Well, there is a dog blue housing shortage right now, 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:39.720 of course, that I feel like we should address. Yeah, 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.560 and I just want to talk. I want to be 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.080 able to talk about that. Have this be a space 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:45.560 where we can talk about that kind of stuff. 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:50.560 Let's do it now. Here's another cool weird detail is 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.560 you might be wondering why how do we have a 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.520 picture of the actual dog glue. Well, there was a 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.720 photographer on this expedition and he his name was Frank Hurley, 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.240 and it was his job to document everything. But they're 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.520 just pictures of all this stuff we're talking about, and 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.200 I would encourage our listeners to check them out because 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.960 it's very cool. Okay, so they have shelter, but what 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.840 are these guys eating. The crew is hunting seals and 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:21.160 penguins to feed themselves and the dogs. What do you think? 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:22.640 Are you more of a seal or penguin guy? 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:28.320 I love frankly both. I find seals to be like 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:29.840 just about the cutest. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.840 It's hard to eat cute things. I think penguins are 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:37.879 unbelievably cute. 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:42.000 Yeah, I think penguins are funny to me. I don't 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.640 know if they're Yeah, I don't know how good the 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.760 meat is on a penguin, You. 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:52.040 Know what I mean, It's not a delicacy. If all 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.399 of this is not bad enough. Things are about to 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:58.320 get way worse for Ernie Shacky and all his buddies. 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.080 The endurance weg wedged in the ice hasn't sunk yet, 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.240 but it's not looking good and they know that they 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.760 need to lose as much weight as possible, so they 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:11.040 begin unloading and discarding whatever they can sacrifice, books, bibles, 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:15.479 personal belongings. Sadly, this also meant putting down some of 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.600 the smaller dogs that they knew wouldn't survive, which must 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.280 have been really tough in those circumstances. And yes, even 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:27.800 Missus Chippy was put down. Rip Missus Chippy. Yeah this 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.000 is hard. I mean, they're in survival mode here. It's 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:34.359 pretty it's pretty brutal. Then it happened on November twenty first, 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:39.359 Shackleton and his crew watched as the endurance sank, and 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:43.600 apparently Shackleton yelled out, she's going boys. I don't know 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.720 if if that was like a sort of like a 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:50.600 funny thing to say at the time, or like it 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:54.800 was through tears. But all I know is if my 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:59.919 one mode of transportation out of certain death is just 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:04.080 sinking before my eyes, I'm probably a little upset. I 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:05.800 might have a little panic attack. 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.120 It would be a bad vibe. I think it's fair to. 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.080 Say pretty bad vibe. Now, obviously their game plan has 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.320 now shifted dramatically. It's gone from let's make a heroic 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.840 crossing of this continent to basically, let's just try to 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.000 get the hell out of your life. And yeah, so 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.840 basically they just start walking across this never ending ice 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:28.520 flow towards land. I mean, what else are you gonna do? 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.480 But they're not just walking. They're also hauling the lifeboats 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.440 that they salvaged from the endurance, and they're using them 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.880 as sleds to carry their supplies. So, needless to say, 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.680 this is very slow going. They only managed to walk 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:48.280 seven miles in seven days. So Shackleton gives the order. 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:50.560 He's like, this is hopeless. We got to just hunker 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.679 down and wait for conditions to get better. Yeah, so 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.000 they did. They set up camp again. Unfortunately, the ice 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.760 drifted in their favor, and finally, on April seventh, Elephant 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:05.520 Island came into view on the horizon. Now it ain't Maui, 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:11.120 but I'm pretty sure it was a lovely sight to see, right, 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:14.400 it's land. Like they're just sighted to see some land 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.560 at this point. But now their ice flow that they're 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:20.119 riding on is starting to kind of break apart, and 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:24.040 it's no longer safe. Also just terrifying, like they're in 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:28.440 the Antarctic Ocean, for God's sake. So on April eleventh, 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:32.040 nineteen sixteen, they're forced to pack up the boats and 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:38.440 launch for Elephant Island. Now, these are tiny little lifeboats. 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:42.119 They're like twenty two feet long, and they're basically like 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:45.320 big canoes, and they're in very high seas with waves 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:50.280 crashing around them, and that water is a little bit chilly, right, 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:55.239 probably one would like it's ice water. It's literally like 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:56.840 I'm having a glass of ice water. 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.360 I love it at a restaurant. I don't necessarily want 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:00.280 to go swim. 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.960 It ed cold plunging is is a delight when it 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:07.480 is a choice. But these guys are just getting Yeah, 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.960 these guys are getting just slammed by huge waves and 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.159 freezing water. And also at this point a lot of 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:18.480 them are suffering from sea sickness and dysentery. So imagine 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.679 your sickness that you had on your family vacation, but 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.520 add to that dysentery, and now you know that it 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:29.200 ain't just seawater slashing around in those boats at this point. 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.919 Oh my god, I like to think i'd be one 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.320 of the guys yanking on the oars getting us to 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:35.000 Elton Island. 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:36.880 I think I don't. 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:39.120 I might be bald up on the floor in fetal position, 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:40.960 but I don't see you that way. 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.440 Ed I think you're a You're a You're a you're 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:44.399 a team player. 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:45.720 I appreciate that. 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:49.879 I mean when I was, when I was like losing 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:52.000 my mind and edibles, all you did was poke me 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:57.280 and make the fun of me. So we supported you. 0:22:57.280 --> 0:22:58.920 You did, you really genuinely did. 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:03.840 Okay, after six days and thirty miles of open ocean, 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:08.199 they finally make landfall. Yes, they've been gone now for 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:12.200 a year and a half and they're finally on solid ground. 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:16.520 But don't party yet, because I have a little bit 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:22.400 of bad news, which is that, yes, Elephant Island uninhabited, right, 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:24.920 so you can't just check into it Hampton in and 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.600 hit the Applebee's for a hot rack of ribs. This 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:34.080 ordeal is far from over. So they're on solid ground, 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.120 which is which is great. And it's been a harrowing journey, 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:42.240 like like they're basically heroes already, but there's so much 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:45.439 more ahead. So Shackleton and his crew still need some 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:47.880 serious help getting out of there. So after a few 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:52.320 days recuperating and gorging on more of that delicious penguin jerky, yeah, 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:56.560 Shackleton yeuh me, Shackleton and four other men once again 0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:01.479 boarded one of those tiny little lifeboats. And it's just 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.800 that this is they basically are like sending off just 0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.520 a tiny crew to go get help while the rest 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:12.520 wait on Elfin Island. They board a tiny lifeboat named 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:17.679 the James Cared and set sail for South Georgia Island. 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:21.880 No big deal, it's only eight hundred miles. 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:23.199 Away, my god. 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:30.400