1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: with on our radio. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. We're here today to 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: break down hometowns mel season of The Golden Bachelor. But 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: before we get going, Ashley turned on her camera and 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: is just absolutely glowing. I say that often, and I 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: need it this time and there's a reason for it. Hey, 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 2: I'm getting educated on spray tans. No, I have a 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: shoot tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, And I guess you're surprised I've 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: never received the spray tan. Huh. 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 3: I am surprised, Yes, because Jared has, and you know, 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: Jess is in the beauty world, so I figured that 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: like at some point you would have gotten them. 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: You know. I like, I've never done anything. I got 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: any I just got a haircut. But wait, does Jess 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: like ever do official you? Yeah, I've I've received the 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: furthest I've gone is micro needling. Because I enjoyed it. 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: That's pretty far. That's pretty enjoy the micro newdling process. Yeah, 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: I need to feel something then that's hilarious. She's also 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 2: really good. It doesn't hurt. 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it depends on like how deep you go, how 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 3: numb you are, what kind of micro dealing you're doing. 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: I think she just told me that studies have been 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: released that there is no benefit to going deeper. Actually, 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: there is studies out there that say the same, that 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: you have the same benefits with this new thing she's using. Anyways, 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: we're back to spraytnds. I've never gotten a spray tan. 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: I've never thought about it. I have wondered at moments 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: in my life. You know, a lot of no names 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: being named, but you know there are bachelor men out 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: there who look younger than when they're on the show. 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: There's reasons for that, you know, call it botox, hair transplants, spraytnds, 33 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: et cetera. And I've also often wondered would it be beneficial? 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: Would I enjoy that? Would I like? And I always 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: go back to now, I don't care enough. I don't 36 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: enjoy the spray tan process. 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: I only do them for reasons, like I really only 38 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: do them for work, for like a media thing, like 39 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: if I'm thinking back on things that I did it 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: for just leisure. I got one for the Jonas concert 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: over the summer for leisure. 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: I just really wanted to look my best. 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: Jared has only gotten them again for I think work reasons. 44 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: I remember is when he's going to what, yeah that work. 45 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: He got one before going to Bachelor and Paradise when 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: we went back for a little vacation stint. But the 47 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: weird thing is spray tans just like they're just not enjoyable. 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: I would never just get them for fun because well 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: they are kind of expensive, but then they're very cold, 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: like they're basically blowing cold air on you when you're 51 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 3: doing it, and I'm like, no, no thanks. Also the 52 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: intimacy factor. There's very few people that I'm trying to 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: get like that undressed for, and I am a girl 54 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: that keeps my underwear on. I would ask Ben if 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 3: he kept his underwear on, but he's ever had one. Yeah, 56 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: I had one, And I would assume that guys always 57 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: keep their underwear on. 58 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I, yeah, I don't have like a lot 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: of like shyness. I guess, so I don't know what 60 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: I would do. 61 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: I think, Wait, you don't have a lot of shot, 62 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 3: and you don't the guy. 63 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: In the locker room that's just like walking around naked. 64 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: You are, Oh my gosh. 65 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: Jared is definitely not the guy that walks around naked. 66 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 3: There's two types of guys, one that just like, yeah, 67 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: it's fun. 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: It's like a big party. Yeah, just out there now. Yeah, 69 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: we're just just doing our thing. Oh my gosh, I'm 70 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: so private about that stuff. 71 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: It's my GUYO and Jared and nobody else, not even 72 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: my sister, has seen me like fully naked. 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: It's not like I'm like out there in public, you know, 74 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: flipping it around. It's public. It's a locker room. Yeah, 75 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: but it's like, no, you don't enter into a locker 76 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: room being like, oh, this is like a really like 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: you know, cautious space for us not to shower, clean up, 78 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: like do our thing. Like we're all dudes here. Nothing's 79 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: going to surprise anybody else. The more like, I'm naked 80 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: and unashamed, so let's be friends and shake hands. 81 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: He could be on Naked and Afraid, Ben, that's a show. 82 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: I'm sure you'd be able to get on. 83 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd have no problem. I'd love it, I do. 84 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's not as much and we'll wrap this 85 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: up here. I know some people out there listening are 86 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: probably this is ridiculous. It's not as much to me, 87 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 2: you getting it. It is the person. And I know 88 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: a few that do it professionally. Yeah, And I have 89 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: always thought, In fact, I think I asked just this 90 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: after her last one. I said, so, like this person 91 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: that you get it from is seeing like eight Huci 92 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: coucies a day, and it's like getting up in there, 93 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: like that's a wild job. There's not many job out 94 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: jobs out there except being a guy. 95 00:04:59,400 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: No. 96 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that you know, voluntarily expose yourself to whatever anybody 97 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: else is flaunting. It's very weird to me. It seems 98 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: very intimate. 99 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 3: It is intimate, for sure, because you're just because the 100 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: weird thing about spread hands is that you're just standing 101 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: there oftentimes like hunged over and cold, and you're just naked, 102 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: standing there like just with your arms out and your 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: legs out, and it's just like weird. But what's even 104 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: an occupation that I can't imagine even more is waxing. Yeah. 105 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: I think these two came up in conversation I remember 106 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: with my wife and I was like, these are two 107 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: very odd professions and now you make great money. It's 108 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: it's a really like needed thing. AI really can't take 109 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: it over. So your job security is very safe. I 110 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: respect it in so many ways. It just feels it 111 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: just feels odd. You have to be one of those 112 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: people that kind of bring the energy of like come on, 113 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: I don't care because if there was any like whoa 114 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: like comments, which I'm sure at times, like you know, 115 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 2: there's a shock factor to what you know these people 116 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: are seeing, then it just really backfires and then the 117 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: person's ashamed, they're embarrassed the person doing it, it's grossed out. 118 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: I think I'm the person that would like never get 119 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: used to seeing naked bodies. 120 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's there's a unique human out there that does 121 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: it every day all day. 122 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: And I think about, like, those are nice boobies. I'm 123 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: glad I don't have those boobies. 124 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 125 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: I remember being in the locker room, like you know, 126 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: the YMCA as a kid, using the public pool and 127 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: thinking and being like, oh my god, those are big, flat, 128 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: long boobies, or those are some big nipples, and like 129 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: all those thoughts you were at the YMCA. 130 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: It wasn't exactly probably the demo that was like showing 131 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: off anything under a certain age range. You know, it's 132 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: the final thought here. There's two things. I have one 133 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: story about this, you know, I think we had a 134 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: spray tanner come up to our house at like late 135 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: one night. It was like nine to thirty. Yeah, that's primetime, Yeah, 136 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: primetime spray Tan. And I was like, okay, so they're 137 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: gonna do this. They had to go somewhere else after this, 138 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: and they're gonna go home and go to bed like 139 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: thirty minutes after seeing a naked human standing in front 140 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: of them. That's crazy. Like I don't, like I'm married. 141 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: That doesn't happen to me very often, even like that's 142 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: not how my life works all the time. It's very interesting. 143 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: I did. Jess always tells the story. It's funny. We 144 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: had just gotten married. She I don't know if it 145 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: was of SPRAYTN, like post wedding or whatever. Anyways, I 146 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: get up one morning and I'm making the bed and 147 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: her side of the bed is like this yellow orange. Yeah, 148 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: and I like stripped the sheets and threw them in 149 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: the wash. And I came downstairs and she was sitting 150 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: at the time, and she laughs at this story, and 151 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: I said, hey, hon, like you can tell me did 152 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: you pee the bed last night? I was serious, like, 153 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: I was very like, I have no clue what this 154 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: could be, but it looks like you just like let 155 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: loose in bed. And I want to let you know 156 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: one why two It's okay, but we need to figure 157 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: this out. Oh my goodness, yeah, wow, you're here. Funny. 158 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: I'm thinking of so many different things that are not 159 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: suitable for work, and this does technically work. But I 160 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: do have one more question refer for you, and then 161 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: we'll rob the conversation because I know you're a massage guy. 162 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: You get fully naked for massages every well, yes, I 163 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: do go to this place that is like quick and 164 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: it's a walking and you have to leave your clothes on. 165 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: It's just a quick massage, you mean, just like a 166 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: place at the mall. Yeah, it's like it literally isn't 167 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: a mall. And you walk in and you're like, do 168 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: you have any like openings for the next time. I 169 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: love those places. It's amazing and they're like a dollar 170 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: a minute and you're like this so good and they 171 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 2: just beat me up and I leave feeling all sorts 172 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: of confused and I've snored. So I leave my clothes 173 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: fully on for that. But if I like pay for. 174 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 3: A like, what's the point of taking off your boxers? 175 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: Because for me, for me, I find I feel no different. 176 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: I feel more vulnerable in my head and a little 177 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: more breezy down there. But I wouldn't feel as comfortable 178 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: with the messeuse like moving the sheet or the towel around. 179 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: It's where you and I differ. I'm like, not a problems. 180 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: It's more your issue than mine. 181 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: Ben, You like, are really confident with your package. 182 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm just I like to relax, and so if I'm 183 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: going to relax, I relax more with my underwear on. No, 184 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: there's there's a freedom and coming in how we were 185 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: born and allowing that to take over you. I am 186 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: most comfortable with how I came into the world. It's 187 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: also how I go to sleep at night, and it 188 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: will be how I leave the world. I mean that 189 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 2: might be my cast what who knows? 190 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: That's how you're going to leave the world. Do you 191 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: think you're gonna die when you're naked? How often are 192 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: you naked? That's actually my final question. 193 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: I might request it if I'm going to spend that 194 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: much time laying on my back, like, at least allow 195 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: me to be free doing it. Jared and I do 196 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: not walk. We don't like we are like we don't 197 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 2: like walk. 198 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: Around naked and very very infrequently like well like you know, 199 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: like he'll pull up his underwear in front of me 200 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But like it's very beyond it's 201 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: not much beyond that. I feel like, are you just 202 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: walking around your house naked? 203 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: A lot? I feel like I do. I've never really 204 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: thought about that way. I just feel like, yeah, I'm home. 205 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: I'm comfy. In fact, now that you say that, like 206 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: at some point I have to stop, right, we have kids, now, 207 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: Like that was you know, going to have to stop? Yeah? 208 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: I mean, goodness, gracious, there's many my glass of water 209 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 2: before bed. But I do know our brisken see in 210 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: our kitchen, so that actually could be a problem. There's 211 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 2: a lot to think about it. 212 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: Don't even know if you're being like funny right now 213 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 3: and you say, like your neighbors, that's so funny, Like, 214 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 3: I like love knowing more about you and learning more. 215 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: This doesn't really surprise me. 216 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why you're surprised content. 217 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: So I'm glad that you're talking about it. I will 218 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: tell a story now this should be a headline. 219 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe it will be. Let's see where it goes. 220 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: All right. 221 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: It's hilarious because a couple of years ago, when Jared 222 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: and I were on The Bachelor in Paradise for our 223 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: little you know, Stint. One of the producers had like 224 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: a three or two and a half three year old 225 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: at the time, and he was good fronts with him, 226 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: and he showed us this video of his son seeing 227 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 3: him in the bathroom and saying he was like, WHOA, 228 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: daddy's penis is a big pena like that so funny. 229 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: So this week, Jared for the first time peace in 230 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: front of Dawson because Dawson has to pay. And then 231 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: Jared goes, I'm gonna go and pee, and right after 232 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: you and I am down the hall and I hear 233 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: the funniest thing, And I'm just so glad that I 234 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: was present for this moment and Jared doesn't mind me 235 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: sharing because of the obvious Dawson goes, WHOA, that's a 236 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 3: big penis. 237 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: That's a huge penis. Yeah, there's a level of that, like, 238 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: and I'm sure Jared was like, hey man, like cool, 239 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 2: but also like you know, Jared walked out of there 240 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: about an inch tall. 241 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: Oh one, Like I saw the visible difference in his posture. 242 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: Oh He's like, I got it. Like that's cool. Like 243 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: because of the opposite. 244 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 3: Could you imagine You'd be like, Daddy, your peenis is 245 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: the same size as a penis. 246 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: That would be fantastic. That that would make my life 247 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: If that's the story that was told there, I'd be like, 248 00:12:59,200 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: this is. 249 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: You think that story would be being told on the airwaves? 250 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: That would be that would be like a buddy story 251 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: that is told on a golf trip that like our friend. 252 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: Would it be told? 253 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: Oh? 254 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, like guys, when we were together, like you guys 255 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: poor you know we this. You have to hear what 256 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: my son said to me, I'd be like, that is fantastic, 257 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: Like that dude, that kid gets it. This is an 258 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: amazing way to start an episode about hometowns with mel. 259 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: You know, this episode was so bland, we just had 260 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: to spice it up with this intro conversation. 261 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we shouldn't record at night. I feel like when 262 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: we recorded at night, we've had too much happened during 263 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: the day and it's kind of just like everything's thrown 264 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 2: out there. Oh, I think it's the opposite. I think 265 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: we're more entertaining at night. Yeah, And honestly, you know this, 266 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 2: like I have Jessica and I can ask her everything, 267 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: but I ask you a lot of things too about 268 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: you know, how life works, and because like you are 269 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: a trusted voice in my life, and so this if 270 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: you and I were together having dinner, this would be 271 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: a conversation that we would one hundred percent have. I'd say, Ashley, Jessica, 272 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: get spray tans. Tell me how your experience with spray tans. 273 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: There's a lot to this, but let's jump into the episode. 274 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: I kind of disagree with you. I came into this 275 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: episode forcing myself. So I wake up in the morning, Ashley, 276 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: and recently I've been wake up in the morning and 277 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: I say a prayer to myself. I say, walk into 278 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: the world today with a loving spirit. That's what I've 279 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: been saying for the last couple of weeks, just the 280 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: last a couple of weeks, because I was getting angry 281 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: and it wasn't fun. So today I woke up and said, 282 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: step into the world with a loving spirit. Had a meeting. 283 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: Then the episode comes out. I watched the episode and 284 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: I said, Ben, try to look at this with eyes 285 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: that are positive, because you've been very negative this season, 286 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: and maybe the negativity isn't how everybody feels. There's still 287 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: a half million people watching this show. Just a half 288 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: a million, yeah, holy mail a little bit more. It's 289 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: not very good. Holy shit, it's not good. 290 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: I mean half my Instagram reels okay, a third of 291 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: my Instagram reels get higher views than that. 292 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's there's a precedent to this. I'm 293 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: actually going to look up right now the ratings from 294 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: last week's episode. I can tell you exactly how many, 295 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: just in case I got it wrong. I don't. I 296 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: don't want to spread false news here. Okay, this is 297 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: according to TV series or TV series finale dot com 298 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: on ten to fifteen, which was last week's episode. Oh 299 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: I was wrong, Oh thank goodness, two point one million 300 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: viewers is actually up twelve Yeah, it was actually up 301 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: twelve percent from the week before, which was one point 302 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: nine million viewers. Okay, it's down sixty six percent. Yeah, 303 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: or from jone season areas Gary season. It's still not 304 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: turning heads in the ratings categories. I mean you can 305 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: read the headlines for that. So there's people watching it. 306 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: My point is, I'm gonna try to stay positive. So 307 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: here's some takeaways from a positive perspective. Then I do 308 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: have my nigatives too. I can help my positives are this. 309 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: I felt like this was the first episode that I've 310 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: been begging for it. This is the first episode where 311 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: I felt like we got more story from the cast members. 312 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: I know we've had sprinkling moments of story and who 313 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: they are and what they're about and what they're looking 314 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: for throughout this season, but this felt like the first 315 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: episode where I got the familiar sit down, tell me 316 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: your life story, and then mel you respond, ask the 317 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: questions that are appropriate in the moment. This was a 318 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: positive for me. I actually came to the row ceremony 319 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: going I enjoy all three of these women and I 320 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: understand them a little bit better because I got to 321 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: know them now. I think it's way late to be 322 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: doing this, but I will say that's a positive from 323 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: this episode. I will also list a positive as I 324 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: thought the families were incredible, especially the grandma who has 325 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: watched twenty years of the Bachelor franchise. That was nice. 326 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 2: Just she should on it. And I'm not kidding when 327 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: I say this. I know you think I'm crazy. She 328 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: should be on the show dating. That's the golden to me. 329 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: People would watch her that you want, Yeah, people would 330 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: watch her. 331 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 3: I agree I agree, that's what I want. Okay, Okay, 332 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: those are your two positives. Okay, So my big takeaway, 333 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: it's certainly not a positive, was that this is the 334 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: first time I felt like watching this show, I wanted 335 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 3: somebody to feel so awful to say I'm so sorry. 336 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 3: I almost didn't want Cindy to get the rose, and 337 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: though she wanted it so bad, because I was like, 338 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: you deserve more. I don't want you to get this 339 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: rose because you deserve a love that is way better 340 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: than this man who's gonna give you. Not to say 341 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: that I didn't feel similarly with Peg and Debbie, because 342 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: I did. I kind of thought that all three women 343 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 3: standing there, guys literally males. 344 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 2: Ne were coming on this podcast, and if he does, 345 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: it's just gonna be you and him. Okay. Yeah. 346 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: The only reason that I didn't feel as intensely for 347 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: like them was just that I feel like they weren't 348 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: feeling as intensely as Cindy does right now. And if 349 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: they were all feeling this love that Cindy has for 350 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure I would feel. 351 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: The same way for all of them. 352 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: But I was like, whichever one of you doesn't get 353 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: a rose, like think of it like not you. 354 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: Dodged a bullet. I don't think he's like a bullet. 355 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 3: I just feel like there might be something more passionate 356 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: out there for you. 357 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 4: Halloween is around the corner, and your favorite podcasters serving 358 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 4: up episodes that are so good it's actually scary. 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I do have some comments on the hometowns. 376 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 2: Let's walk through each hometown and mostly focus on the 377 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: family dynamics because that's what we saw the most of, 378 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: and I think that's what we want to see the 379 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: most of when it comes to hometowns. PEG's hometown is 380 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. That's where we start. She brings Mel 381 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: to the firehouse. It looks like just a really fun date. 382 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 2: I become more and more impressed with Peg as the 383 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: season continues. She is beautiful, she's funny, she's spirited. And 384 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: here's here's part of it. We talked about this yesterday 385 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: on the Dirty Rush podcast. There is something very attractive 386 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: to me about a woman who can get along with others. 387 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any profession out there that speaks 388 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: to getting along with others better than being a firefighter. 389 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: You're living together, even if you have families back home. 390 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: You're sleeping in small little beds on top of each other. 391 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: It becomes a very like intimate environment. Right You're you're 392 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: changing you're doing. You're living life amongst others all the 393 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: time in a very high pressured, stressful job, and you're 394 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: still getting along for the most part. I find that incredible. 395 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: I find it yeah. Unique. I don't know if I 396 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: don't think I could do it and not like break down. 397 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: And so I watch this and I was like, Peg 398 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: is even cooler to me than she was coming into 399 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: this episode. And I liked her coming in. That was 400 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: another thing. 401 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: I was like that PEG's too cool for him. One's 402 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 3: too in love with them, the other one was too 403 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 3: cool for him. So with Peg, I liked her hometown 404 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 3: because her daughter was the one that gave him a 405 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: harder time than anyone else. 406 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I why do I want him to have 407 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: a hard time? I'm the worst? Uh yeah. 408 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 3: She just was really real about the conversation that she 409 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: had with him. She was like, so, how do you 410 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 3: feel He's like good? How do you think of my mom? 411 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: She's nice? Like, you know, so you think you can 412 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: maybe get there with him? I don't know, like it 413 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: was he gave her, from what we saw, really flat 414 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: answers that weren't encouraging at all. And I just think 415 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 3: I think that the daughter was like, mom, you can 416 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 3: do better. 417 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 2: I loved the first question asked, and then there he's 418 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: like good yeah, and she goes, Okay, that's what I'm 419 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: getting here. This is like, all right, well, let me 420 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: try again, and let me get a little more like 421 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: force full in my questions, a little more direct in 422 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: my questions. I you know, I watch this, there's a 423 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: few things that came to mind. It's one of the 424 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 2: few times that I haven't seen the batch protected. They 425 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: did not protect him here. They made him everything we've 426 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: been saying for the last few weeks of does he 427 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: really want to be here? Is he really in this 428 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: to find somebody? We said this before the season even started, 429 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: and it's been kind of this recurring theme. It's each 430 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 2: episode is like I don't understand what he's here for. 431 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: I don't understand what he's looking for. I understand who 432 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 2: he is interested in, why he's interested, Like, we don't 433 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: know anything about this guy other than he's handsome, and 434 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: the show exposed that here. I think it's very much 435 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: thrown in our faces of this guy is not an 436 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: open book. This dude is not going to even answer 437 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: direct questions that have been asked for It to him 438 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: by the daughter of somebody he's dating. And there's two 439 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: pass here. One is I'm I got upset with him 440 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: because I have been in this environment and it is 441 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: a very stressful time for the families. They're not only excited, 442 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: they're also freaking out. The families are freaking out their 443 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: mom or their daughter or their sister or whoever is 444 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: coming home with this guy after being on a show 445 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 2: for a few weeks, and you are there to talk 446 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 2: about their future and love and so even if you 447 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: aren't feeling it, mel goodness, gracious, even if you aren't 448 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 2: close to being there to make a proposal at the end, 449 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: give the families a little bit more like there's just 450 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: no warm, friendly fun et. Yeah, Like, just don't make 451 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: her have to sit there and like poke and prod 452 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 2: at you to get anything out of you that's reassuring 453 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: or comforting or exposing, Like I don't know, Like start 454 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: talking about your biggest insecurities. If you don't want to 455 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: talk about PEG, at least tell the daughter what freaks 456 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: you out and what you're afraid of just Jane's subject, 457 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: tell her something, ask her about herself and her life. Now. 458 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: The second part of that, though, Ashley is being in 459 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: this situation, I understand what Mel's trying to do. He's 460 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: not there, He's not even close. 461 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 3: So he's trying to show that he doesn't want to 462 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: get engaged at the end of it, and he. 463 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: Doesn't want to lie, and he doesn't want to lead 464 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: people on, and he doesn't want to make empty promises 465 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: to people where he when he knows where he's at. 466 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: And so there is a side of this that I say, 467 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: good on email, like, you are trying in a very 468 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: high pressure environment to be honest and truthful and not 469 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: share too much information to that that could potentially hurt somebody. 470 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: I get that side and I respect that, and I 471 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 2: think that's probably kind of who he is in person, 472 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: Like he's very direct, but he's like slow to speak, 473 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: quick to listen. He doesn't say a lot, but when 474 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: he does say something, he means it. That is a 475 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: quality that's that I admire. My point to though, to 476 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: this is I think the healthier, kinder warmer reaction would 477 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: have been tell her something like give her anything. 478 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: My feelings about Mel Guys is like just strictly who 479 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 3: he is as a lead and not and who he 480 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 3: is like as a reality TV personality and not like 481 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 3: who he is in person. I have no idea what 482 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: he's like in person. I have met so many people 483 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: on this show who I didn't think that I would 484 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 3: like because of the way that they were on TV, 485 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 3: and I really liked them in real life. Sometimes it 486 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 3: doesn't translate. You don't get to see the entire person. 487 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: I just like, what if I was listening, it's. 488 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: He's not listening to us. Okay, he's not, he's not. 489 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 3: My big question is actually more towards casting, where it's like, 490 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: what made you guys think. 491 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: That this guy was lead quality? 492 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 3: What did he give you an interviews? Because there must 493 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: have been so many options. Actually, this is a question 494 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: that we could actually ask, like somebody we know no 495 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: fairly often as of recent Well, yeah, I know, and 496 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: I know that I don't want to, like, you know, 497 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: we're just always beating a dead horse sometimes when it 498 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 3: comes to like lead casting lately, I have to. 499 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: Say, and I think I said it again last week. 500 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 3: But this one feels almost different, Like I can almost 501 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: see what they were going for for everyone, but this 502 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: one doesn't make any sense to me. There's not like 503 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: one feature beyond his like face, which is a good face, 504 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: but he's not like Pierce Brosnan in his seventies. 505 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: I think I think you can kind of see what's 506 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: happening because you look at the Great Britain Golden Bachelor 507 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: that was just released. 508 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a new Great Britain Golden Bachelor. Oh my gosh, 509 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelor. 510 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 2: Okay. And I think at some point the consultants on 511 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: this show said, you need to find the most handsome 512 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: person over sixty or close to sixty that you can 513 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 2: possibly find. That's what's going to bring in the crowd. 514 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: And I think they show got a little too obsessed. 515 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 2: I do, and I think they got the wrong message 516 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 2: and they didn't actually ask the fans when you had 517 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: this kind of era after Gary, where younger people were like, 518 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: I'd marry Gary. Gary's hot. I love Gary. If I 519 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: saw Gary, I'd be all nervous, you know you remember that, 520 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: Like I think you had family members and people kind 521 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: of friends of yours talking about how much they were 522 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: into Gary. No, that's right, Yeah, that's right. And I 523 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: think the show heard this response and thought, that's what's 524 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: going to make this show work is if we can 525 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: get the younger demo into whoever the Golden. 526 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: Is like a daddy, daddy yaddy, and then they just 527 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: went too far because they found him and we're like, well, 528 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 3: this is kind of gross. 529 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: Now, like it's like like, yeah, like I actually this man, 530 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: like he's not just like a like a hot older dude. 531 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: He's like somebody that probably wants to date thirty year 532 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: olds and that's weird now, Like this kind of mix it. 533 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: It goes from this like pure just like oh I 534 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: love that guy, to no, I think he actually would 535 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: be like into dating me. 536 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: If we were to go back to pegsy this peg 537 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 3: segment of the episode. Though, I do want to add 538 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: that her daughter, I feel like he's just hoping her 539 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: mom's eliminated and then she could be like, oh thank god, Mom. Yeah, 540 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: I wanted to tell you, but I felt weird and 541 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: the cameras were there, but I didn't think that that guy. 542 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: Was for you. 543 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: I know. 544 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: We do have Debbie's hometown next, which is in Denver, Colorado. 545 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: They went to Red Rocks, which is not all that place. Yeah, 546 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: it's not far from my house, very very close to 547 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: my house in fact, and it's a beautiful place, an 548 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: incredible place to see a show. If you've never been 549 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: to Red Rocks, you should go there. This is a 550 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: moment where Debbie opens up sitting at Red Rocks about 551 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: her last relationship. She explains that her fiance Di I'd 552 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: buy suicide. You know, it has heavy on her heart. 553 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: She is excited about moving forward and very excited about 554 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: moving forward with Mel. She is excited for Mel to 555 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: meet her family. This is I think. I don't know 556 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: if these stories always have to be shared, right, It's 557 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: up to the individual to share stories like this, but 558 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: I do think this gave me and probably gave the 559 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: viewers a perspective into, you know, why she's on this 560 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: show and what she's excited about and what she's looking for. 561 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: I also watched it and said, Debbie, I don't want 562 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 2: you to get your heart hurt. It's been you know, 563 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: you've carried a guilt, she said, through this situation for 564 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: a while. At this stage of your life, like I 565 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: as a fan of, you want your heart to be 566 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: full and I don't know if Mel's going to give 567 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: that to you from this experience, but I hope, I 568 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: hope this opens you up to kind of do what 569 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: so many other Goldens have done and go out there 570 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: back into the dating pool because you're great and you 571 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: live in Denver and it's a good place. You should 572 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: go hang out with Debbie. Maybe I will, maybe i've 573 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: met her. 574 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, I know, I just I agree with 575 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: your sentiments there. I do feel like I got to 576 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: know her more from that. It was nice because we 577 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 3: knew that she has never been married. That it was 578 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: just nice to have a little insight as to like 579 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: what her last serious relationship was, and it was ten 580 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: years ago and she hasn't dated much since. And I 581 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 3: would totally understand why Debbie really deserves, she really deserves 582 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: to find love. And I really, really I'm pulling for her. 583 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: She's a good, good Golden option. Now, these ladies would 584 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: make a lot of sense in Paradise. I would be 585 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: I would be, you stoked to have a Paradise with them, 586 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: But I don't think it'll happen. No, Golden's didn't love 587 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: their situation in Paradise this year. You know you talked 588 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 3: to Kathy. Loved it well, Kathy, and she hasn't had 589 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 3: a great time. Kathy complained to me when we were 590 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: out in San Francisco a few weeks ago, just that 591 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: like they didn't design it for their success. They like 592 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: barely not in and out any other guys. Especially. She 593 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: was like, our dating pool was so slim. If they 594 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 3: really wanted to find guys that we would all have 595 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 3: found appealing. Kathy was honest, and I think she'd say 596 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 3: it here if she didn't already say it on my 597 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 3: podcast when I was recording out there with her. 598 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: But she said. 599 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: A lot of the women that were Golden's wanted fresh 600 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: blood coming in and not the ones from Jones cast. 601 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what the future of Paradise looks like, 602 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: but I do think she's a good option. The family 603 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: was honestly very easy on mel. I think part of 604 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 2: that is because they're just excited about her data, and 605 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: I'm imagining them being like, I just want her to 606 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: find somebody so bad. How is this beautiful, kind woman 607 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: not met somebody so anybody just like wrap her up? 608 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: And so this is the kind of the calling now 609 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: that she, you know, is no longer on the show. 610 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: Is if Denver is full, Denver Menver, and it's especially 611 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 2: full of like sixty to eighty year old dudes who 612 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: are still biking up the mountain. I live on every 613 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: day and looking good doing it and so goodness gracious boys, gents, 614 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: Debbie is out there and available and if you take 615 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: her on a date, I'll make this commitment now, if 616 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: you take her on a date, go to one of 617 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: my restaurants, and it's on me, like free drinks, free food, 618 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: have a good time. I just want to be able 619 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: to talk about it on almost famous podcast Famously Available. Yeah, 620 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: you can find it in our thread. It's worth listening to. 621 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: We're following along with Mercedes right now, who is dating 622 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: this guy named Boston guy, and she's like really into it. 623 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: We sent Dean on a date and you were there 624 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 2: for that. And we have a golden actually already I 625 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: don't know if it's been announced yet, but we do 626 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: have a golden that is starting to get her her 627 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: oil going in the dating world. On faceb weekend, they're 628 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: announcing oh there weekend, So make sure you stay tuned 629 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 2: for a big announcement. It's a big golden name that's 630 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: going to be out there. Some would say one of 631 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 2: the biggest golden names is going to be out there, 632 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 2: uh dating again on Famously Available, and you're going to 633 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: get to hear it all right here on the almost 634 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: famous podcast thread Ashley. Finally we have Cindy. I like Cindy. 635 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 2: I love her. She is great. She has that star 636 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: quality that kind of like glows off the screen. You 637 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: can tell her daughter's lover. Daughter's so pretty. They all 638 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 2: look just like her. Yeah, it's like kind of actually 639 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 2: like it kind of creeps you out watching it because 640 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: you're they're all look the same. Yeah, the one with 641 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: the red hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know exactly how 642 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna look when you get older, like you are 643 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 2: your mom. Yeah. A really sweet hometown. I felt in Austin, 644 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 2: similar questions as PEG's day were asked. Mel once again 645 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: really had a hard time answering them. And this is 646 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: maybe where I felt like he actually did better. I 647 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: think the producer has gotten his ear after Pegs and 648 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: was like, hey, if they ask a question, you don't 649 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 2: have to say you're in love with them, but at 650 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: least say something like don't say good. Good is a 651 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 2: really hard thing to respond to. Uh. And I think 652 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: he did a better job. I don't think it was 653 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 2: like a home run. 654 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 3: Better because I think that his daughter or her daughter 655 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 3: was a little bit more approachable, said it with a 656 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 3: little bit more sweetness, A little less sweetness I want. 657 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: I know PEG's daughter was more fun to watch your 658 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 2: mom go at him. Yeah. 659 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Cindy's daughters all very sweet. They all like had 660 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 3: very similar vibes to her, like a maid, just like 661 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: kind of in warmth. And I would say that overall, 662 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 3: with Cindy's hometown, I was left actually more in shock 663 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: than leaving the conversation with PEG's sister daughter because it's 664 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 3: what Cindy, what he said to Cindy. Because okay, so 665 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 3: let's backtrack for a second. Cindy's daughter was like, Mom, 666 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: I do really like him. I'm really happy that you're 667 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: so happy. She was like, I do think my mom's 668 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: in love, and like she's just not really saying the words. 669 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: I am a little scared about like where this is 670 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: gonna lead her. 671 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 3: And after that conversation where I feel like Cindy's like 672 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: kind of trying to work like things out in her 673 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 3: mind and like trying to really feel like. 674 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 2: Okay, but like is he taking me seriously? 675 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 3: Then she kind of dresses it head on at the condo, 676 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 3: and the condo was where I was like, she says, 677 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 3: I know some one will pick me. I hope I 678 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 3: hope it's you, because the daughter had said, like, mom, 679 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 3: there's like so many guys out there, you know, will 680 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 3: he be the one that wants. 681 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,959 Speaker 2: To be with you forever? Forever forever? We do? 682 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 3: Like that statement that was like bold, and he just 683 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 3: she was like, I'm fine, I just want to reiterate 684 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 3: that I'm falling falling hard for you. Basically was saying 685 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 3: I'm in love with you, and he could not get 686 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 3: close to saying it. He's he said, he's not there yet, 687 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 3: Like he won't even say I'm falling for you because 688 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 3: you know, that's our world, especially, there's a difference between 689 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 3: falling in love and being in love. He says he 690 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 3: doesn't take the word love lightly because he's only been 691 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 3: in love once. He does not reassure her whatsoever. I 692 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 3: left being I don't know why I was like mad, 693 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 3: Like you can't get mad at somebody for not feeling 694 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 3: love back. But I guess I felt like in a 695 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: way that this woman's just being led on, and that's 696 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 3: why I felt sad or mad at whatever. 697 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like it's gonna end in a heartbreak. 698 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 2: I think at this point, I think this show sets 699 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: us up right now I think the show wants us 700 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: to feel like, going into the final few episodes here, 701 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 2: that we are gonna witness heartbreak. Now. I hope that's 702 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 2: not how it ends for Peg or Cindy, but it 703 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 2: seems like the show has kind of walked us down 704 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: this storyline to say, Yeah, he's not there and he's 705 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 2: not gonna get there because he doesn't know how to 706 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: get there during this experience. Cindy is an incredible catch 707 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: as well as these other two women are. She's definitely 708 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 2: into him. She definitely shows that and wants to communicate 709 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: that with him. I think she's my front runner coming 710 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: out of this episode. But I am nervous about longevity. Yeah, 711 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 2: I'm nervous about the longevity of this relationship because it 712 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 2: just seems to me like he's either two closed off 713 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: because he thinks that's how he has to do this thing, 714 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: or he's closed off because he just doesn't feel it 715 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 2: with anybody. And I'm not understanding where, like, out of 716 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: those two, I don't know where he's at yet. He's 717 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: still thinking I want somebody in their forties. I know. 718 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 2: Goodness gracious, well, we do have the rose ceremony. Debbie 719 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 2: does go home Peg and Cindy get the roses there 720 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 2: in Antigua for the finale. Here we are having a 721 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 2: tell all, which I'm surprised by. There is a tell 722 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 2: all that we see aired in the previews that will 723 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 2: be interesting, especially kind of the Nicole dynamic. There After 724 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 2: the woman have watched it back and seen what they've said, 725 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 2: I'm assuming that it's going to get brought up and 726 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 2: it probably won't be like a very joyous conversation. Other 727 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 2: than that, Ashley, I am leaving this episode feeling exactly 728 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 2: like I said, This show is setting us up for 729 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 2: an ending that feels like heartbreak, and I just don't 730 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 2: love it. I don't love it at all. But we 731 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: haven't talked about our Bachelor, our Golden Bachelor League recently. 732 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 2: I'd love to know where you're sitting in the standings 733 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: after this last Well, I'm I think we're both out. 734 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 3: Hold On, because Debbie was your final Yeah, she was 735 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 3: my final four. 736 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm sitting in Just let you know, I'm sitting in 737 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 2: three hundred and second place. That's actually doesn't sound like 738 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 2: the worst. No, I don't think it's that bad. Hold On, 739 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 2: how many are there? Do you know how many there's 740 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: like thousands. There's seven thousand people in this Okay, Oh 741 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: you beat me, You definitely beat me. 742 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 3: I am at one thousand, four hundred and eighty ninth place. 743 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 2: See, let's go. I just you know, I know my 744 00:40:53,680 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: Golden's better. Hey, this is This has been the recap 745 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: of Hometown's male season of The Golden Bachelor. We hope 746 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 2: you're watching. Share your thoughts with us. On the most 747 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 2: recent episode, give love to these ladies. 748 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 3: They're great, Hey, Ben, Yeah, I actually realized I have 749 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 3: one more. 750 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 2: Thing to say. Please say it. 751 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 3: I thought for a minute he was going to eliminate 752 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 3: Cindy because of the extent of her feelings. 753 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: I think it's a good guess he didn't. Okay, did 754 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 2: you not feel it during the road ceremony? Oh? Are 755 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 2: our producer is going? I thought so too. 756 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I was like, I was thinking, he's like, 757 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 3: this lady is getting too intent, she's yelling too much. 758 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: I just want to get rid of this seriousness. Yeah, 759 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: but he didn't, which maybe hints at him feelings similar. 760 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 2: Don't you dare this? He'll be the worst look ever 761 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 2: for you. Hey, We'll be back next week. Breaking down 762 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 2: more episodes of the Golden Bachelor. Until next time. I've 763 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 2: been Been, I've been Ashley, Thank you, love you Bye. 764 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 765 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts