1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls podcast, a weekly 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: conversation about mental health, personal development, and all the small 3 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: decisions we can make to become the best possible versions 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: of ourselves. I'm your host, doctor Joy hard and Bradford, 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more information or 6 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: to find a therapist in your area, visit our website 7 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: at Therapy for Blackgirls dot com. While I hope you 8 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: love listening to and learning from the podcast, it is 9 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: not meant to be a substitute for a relationship with 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: a licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks so much 11 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: for joining me for this special wellness episode of Therapy 12 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: for Black Girls. We'll get right into our conversation afterword 13 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: from our sponsors. I don't know about you all, but 14 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: I'm still unpacking all that was showcased in the recent 15 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Inside Out to movie, from the realistic depiction of anxiety 16 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: attacks to seeing new emotions show up as main character 17 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: Riley steps into her teenage years. Joining me today to 18 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 1: explore some of the major themes featured in the movie 19 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: is the head of the TVG Thrive Tribe and licensed 20 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: associate professional counselor, Gorgeous West and As a special bonus, 21 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: I also passed the mic to my two little ones, 22 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: Jackson and Julian, to get their perspectives on the film 23 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: as well. During our conversation, we discussed the scenes that 24 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: stuck with us the most from the film, how therapists 25 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: can reference the film to break down tough emotional concepts 26 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: with clients and analyze the film's most central character, anxiety. 27 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: If something resonates with you while enjoying our conversation, please 28 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: share with us on social media using the hashtag TVG 29 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: in session or join us over in the sister circle 30 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: to talk more about the episode. You can join us 31 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: at community dot therapy for Blackgirls dot com. Here's our conversation. Well, Gorgeous, 32 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: I am so glad to be chatting with you again. 33 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: I feel like it's always fun when you can join 34 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: me for some of the pop culture. What are we watching? 35 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: What's going on as a fellow therapist, because I think 36 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: we often are watching things and reading things with a 37 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: little bit of a different lens. So I'm excited for 38 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: you to join me today to talk a little bit 39 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: about inside out too. So you had a chance that 40 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: we did a partnership with Disney, of course, to promote 41 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: the movie, and you had a chance to go to 42 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: one of the very early screenings here in Atlanta. It 43 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: was a fun activity. So tell us a little bit 44 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: about the screening that you actually participated in. 45 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the screening was amazing. I feel me in 46 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: my We all went. They had a lot. 47 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: Of activations and games that were influenced by the movie. 48 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 3: They had a street hockey activation for the kids to 49 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: d street hockey. 50 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: They had snacks, they had a DJ, they. 51 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 3: Had snow cones, had a lot of merge, so they 52 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: gave our hats while all of the characters on there. 53 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: They gave our beach towels and t shirts and water bottles. 54 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: So that was like the outside part of it. And 55 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: then they brought us into the theater and they had 56 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: free possessions for everyone. And once we got our consessions 57 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: and snacks, we went to the. 58 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: Theater and they had another DJ in there giving everyone 59 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: excited and ready for the movie and. 60 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: Asking all the attendees and the children. 61 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: If they knew about the different or the new emotions 62 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: that were to be added. 63 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: So it was pretty cool hearing the kids'. 64 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: Guests which emotions that they were looking forward to seeing 65 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: in the movie. So after that the lights dim and 66 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: the movie started, and it was a great experience. 67 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: It was so much fun. 68 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: Literally saw some adults in their patner eyes a little 69 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: bit while watching the film, and I had to pull 70 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: myself out of being in therapist mom because I was like, oh, 71 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: my goodness, there's so much happening in this movie, and 72 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: I didn't want to like psycho analyze it in that moment. 73 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: I just wanted to be present with it and then 74 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: think about it as the days came by. 75 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you left the theater and immediately text like, 76 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: that was so good. We have to do a conversation 77 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: about this. But at the time I had not seen it, 78 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: and then when I saw it, I completely understood why 79 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: you felt like we needed to talk about it. I'm 80 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: also somebody who had not seen Inside Out one or 81 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: I don't remember. The kids say that we watched it together, 82 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: but I just don't remember. So after I saw Inside 83 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: Out two, I came home and watched Inside Out one 84 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, Okay, now I get what 85 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: people were raving about. So tell me what felt so 86 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: inspiring or what pulled you to feel like, Okay, we 87 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: absolutely have to talk about this. 88 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 4: On the podcast, So I think thing, the emotions show 89 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: up in the controls and my aspect of it because 90 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 4: I really like how they showed that essentially because I 91 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: never thought about it. 92 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: Like that, and sometimes it can be like the most 93 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: simplings things to help explain emotions to people, and how like. 94 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: What emotion is taking over, what emotion is at the 95 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: control board, and like running the show. I thought that 96 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: was like a good visualization of. 97 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: It as well as just anxiety, the depiction of how 98 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: anxiety show that the language, just how it was just 99 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: like running the show and literally running rightly. I thought 100 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 3: that they executed that very well. It was relatable, especially 101 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: like the thoughts, the projections and all of those things. 102 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: So I thought that that part alone is what sold me, like, Okay, 103 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: we need to talk about this. 104 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And I think as therapists it is 105 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: often hard sometimes to give language to these things that 106 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: often feel very difficult to describe or it is more 107 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: of a few kind of thing. But to see it 108 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: depicted as you mentioned as a control center. And the 109 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: point that I also really love is this idea that 110 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: they're all there right, so maybe there is one that 111 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: is trying to you know, operate the control center at 112 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: a certain time more than others, but that they are 113 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: all useful, that there is a place for everybody in 114 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: the control center, so to speak. I also agree that 115 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: it is a great depiction, and I think gives language. 116 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: And of course this is the thing that like Disney 117 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: and Pixel do an excellent job of is of course 118 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: it's a movie geared towards kids, but as adults, there 119 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: are so many things that you can take from it, 120 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: and I think it really helps to give children language 121 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: for emotions and things like that may be very difficult 122 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: or that maybe we did not grasp until we were 123 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: much older in life. 124 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. 125 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: Another thing I thought that was really cool was the 126 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 3: core beliefs, so like how those memories were the balls, right, 127 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: I thought that that was well detated. Oh that makes 128 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: so much sense, and like our joy was like, oh, 129 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: this is not a good memory, so she just shot 130 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: it all the way in the back. It was like 131 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: there's some to go in the back in the long 132 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: term memory where they don't even think about it. So 133 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: I thought that that was well done as well. Like 134 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: I really loved that part of it that was Chef's kiss. 135 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that too, And I think again going 136 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: back to the idea of every emotion has a place, 137 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: like joy of course being the joy emotion, wanting to 138 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: handpick the memories that she thought Riley should have because 139 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: of course her kind of driving force is to make 140 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: sure that everything feels pleasant all the time. But then 141 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: when we realize, Okay, you've put so much back there 142 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: that like you are digging for the memories, and can 143 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: there actually be space for things that maybe are not 144 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: so pleasant to coexist with even the more memorable or 145 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: the more pleasant memories, And how all of that is 146 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: really needed for us to establish both a sense of 147 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: self and these core beliefs that these ideas that we 148 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: have about ourselves. 149 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: Yes, And I think like how they showed how Joye 150 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: just wanted to hold that one version of Riley like no, 151 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: this is who she is, and not allowing all of 152 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: her to be present, like Okay, well this is the 153 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: best version of her. 154 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: We can't change. 155 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: And I think that with anxiety coming around, Anxiety was like, no, 156 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: we're going to shake this stuff up, We're gonna. 157 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: Change yeah, right, yeah, Because I didn't necessarily have the 158 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: context of having or at least remembering seeing the first 159 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: one before the second one, I also was really pleased, 160 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: and it made a lot of sense that we saw 161 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: these new emotions show up as Riley is entering her 162 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: teenage years, right, because so the anxiety, the on wei, 163 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: which is the boredom, and I think what was the 164 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: big guy? Was he embarrassment? Embarrassment? So it felt very 165 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: fitting that these are the emotions. Though they may have 166 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: been there a little bit when she was younger, this 167 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: is a time during teenage and young adolescence where we 168 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: see these emotions become more prevalent. So what did you 169 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: feel like as somebody who did remember seeing the first one, 170 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: and how did you feel about these new emotions being 171 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: added for this new movie. 172 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: I thought it was appropriate, like you said, in the 173 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: sense of her age and like socially, like she's more 174 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: concerned about her peers and how she's seen outwardly, right, 175 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 3: So it wasn't necessarily about. 176 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: Like her parents and like making our parents happy. It 177 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: was more so. 178 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 3: About Okay, how am I going to fit into this 179 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: new school, this new setting, with this new team, and 180 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: like all the things that goes on with their transition. 181 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: I thought it was very timely that those emotions introduced 182 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: themselves into the scene and then identifying, Okay, well, how 183 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: do they now incorporate with what has already been there, 184 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 3: right with the joy, fear of sadness, and anger, and 185 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: we also forgot about envy and he was also a 186 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 3: new emotion as well. So I thought it was like 187 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: that transition and like showing the spotlight on them that 188 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: she navigated through the challenges was spot on. 189 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: Mm hm. So I've seen a lot of other therapists 190 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: talk about like how they have maybe even used inside 191 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: Out as a part of their work with clients. Is 192 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: this something that you had used before? And if so, 193 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: like what kinds of interventions are you pulling from the 194 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: movie to be applicable to client work? 195 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: Great question. 196 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,479 Speaker 3: So before no, I had not used it, But afterwards 197 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 3: so many of my clients were bringing the movie and 198 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: talking about how they went to see the movie into sessions. 199 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: So we definitely broke down and a lot of them 200 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: connected with anxiety, experiencing panic attacks and what that looked like. 201 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: They also talked about the projection of trying to like 202 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: think of all the worst outcomes, so that really aligned 203 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 3: with a lot of them too, and essentially we identified 204 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 3: ways to cope with it, like how at the end 205 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: of the movie joy towd anxiety here, glad to see 206 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: drinking little juice and sit in this area that just 207 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: relax And so essentially the clients giving them the language 208 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: like Okay, well, who's that the control center? How are 209 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: we going to navigate this? What are your coping skills 210 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: that you can implement in this moment to help you 211 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: navigate through this? Or you know, essentially a lot of 212 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 3: times with anxiety is okay, they think something is wrong? 213 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: So really is something wrong? Are you in danger? Like 214 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 3: how can you look at the whole setting in your 215 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 3: environment to really assess if anxiety is doing too much 216 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: in this moment or can they take the back seat. 217 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: Another thing I do with clients that I like that 218 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: this movie did was recognize in the other emotions. 219 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: So yes, you can feel anxiety that it doesn't have 220 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: to have the stage like like who else is on 221 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 3: the stage? How can we pull from those other feelings 222 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 3: in this moment? So I reference this movie a lot 223 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: now after seeing it. I always ask my clients like 224 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 3: did you see inside out to yet? Like before I 225 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: go there with them. For those who have seen it, 226 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: I talk through and they understand. For those who haven't. 227 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: I reference the first one just to kind of give 228 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: some language a little bit, but most of them have 229 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: seen it and they're able to connect with what I've 230 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: shared with them for sure. 231 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. 232 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. You know. 233 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: The other thing that I thought was really really cute 234 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: about how they showed emotions, and I definitely can see 235 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: like how this is so applicable to client work, especially 236 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: because it feels like it's another version of like the 237 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: feelings short, right, you know, like you can associate or 238 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: connect with the characters. What I also loved was that 239 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: each person had their own little like slate of characters 240 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: in their head that look like them, right, So I 241 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: love that like her dad had his own set of 242 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: like emotion characters in his head that looked like him, 243 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: and Mom had the same, which I just thought was 244 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: really cool that they also depicted it like this is 245 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: not just an internal experience for you, Like we all 246 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: have these little characters in our heads, and we all 247 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: have the same little slate of people. So when you 248 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: talk to the beginning about like seeing adults becoming like 249 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: emotional in the movie, that definitely was me And I'm 250 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: trying to remember it exactly when I started becoming tearful, 251 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: though it doesn't take much for me ever to be 252 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: tearful in a movie most times. But I found I 253 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: was very, very moved by the scene where she's having 254 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: the panic attack at the skating rink and you can 255 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: see then in the control room, like anxiety spinning out 256 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: of control basically, and I thought that was such a 257 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: beautiful depiction, one of what a panic attack actually looks 258 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: like and feels like for somebody who's experiencing it, but 259 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: also about how much of anxiety is also like a 260 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: fear right that the anxiety character we see she's spinning 261 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: out of control, and Joy realizes, oh my gosh, so 262 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: much of this is really her being afraid and just 263 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: not wanting to mess up and wanting things to go well. 264 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: And I don't think we always can see anxiety as 265 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: that until I thought the movie did a really good 266 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: job of displaying that from lots of different angles. Yes, yes, 267 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: I think one of the quotes because I think that 268 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: where a lot of people connected with so like we 269 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: go on to aktocker social media, you don't see like 270 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: people doing stages of content around that moment, And I 271 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: think one thing anxiety the same She said I was 272 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: just trying to protect her. 273 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: I didn't mean to do any harm. I was just 274 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 3: trying to keep her safe. And it's just like it 275 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: wasn't needing in that moment or not to that degree. 276 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that that is helpful to think about. Like, 277 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: I think that is often the role anxiety has in 278 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: our life is that it is trying to protect us 279 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: from something. But I think as therapists we are often 280 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: asking like do you still need that protection? And if so, 281 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: do you still need it in that way? 282 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: Right? 283 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: Like doctor Hodge, I think uses the example when talking 284 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: about anxiety about it often feels like you're running from 285 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: a bear, But is the bear there all the time 286 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: or can we release and relax some of that. So 287 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: I just thought it was such a good job of 288 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: depicting like what a panic attack feels like, and how 289 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,239 Speaker 1: anxiety is often trying to protect us from things. 290 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: I think to your point, doctor Joy, of part that 291 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: really hippy. 292 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 3: In my heart was when Joy said maybe this is 293 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: what happens when you. 294 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: Grow up you feel less joy, And I was like, 295 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: do we do we feel? 296 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us do feel that way. 297 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us do feel that way. 298 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: That really hit home because essentially, I think that's why 299 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: a lot of people are trying to connect with they're 300 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: in their child and find that sense of joy or 301 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: care freeeness as adults because so much is put on 302 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: as like responsibilities and work and career and family builds 303 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: all the things, and then it's like that sense of 304 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: joy just gets push back, push back, pushback, and so 305 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: it's essentially do we lose it or are we in 306 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: search of it? So that far really kid me, maybe 307 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: tap a chest a little bit. 308 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing that I thought they did beautifully 309 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: and I'm probably not remembering all the details of it, 310 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: but like the hidden emotions, it almost is like a 311 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: shame kind of thing, right, like this is where you 312 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: go like these secret kinds of things. And I thought 313 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: that was really cool and also sets up future movies, 314 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: I would imagine, right, because what else is locked away 315 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: in this dark place that we don't want other people 316 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: to know about? So I also love the way that 317 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: they play with the emotion of shame as like this 318 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: secret place that nobody wants to go kind of thing. 319 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: I mean, like when they put all the emotions in 320 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: the bottle and it's like we're suppressed. 321 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: That's exactly what it looks like. 322 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, mm hmmmm. So I don't know. We don't always 323 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: know what the plans are for like follow ups and 324 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: sequels and prequels and all of the things for movies, 325 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: but it does feel like they have set it up 326 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: to where we could continue following Riley throughout different moments 327 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: in her life, her parents throughout different moments in their life. 328 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: And so I'm curious if we were to see maybe 329 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: Riley going to college or maybe like her first grown 330 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: up job, what other emotions do you think they would 331 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: add to the cast of characters as she transitions to 332 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: a new stage in her life. 333 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: Ooh, great question. 334 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: I think disappointment might be a feeling that comes up, 335 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: maybe excitement in doing my new things, possibly like if 336 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: she goes off the college, excitement of being off of 337 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: her own even excitement, and possibly like driving things like that. 338 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: I'm curious, because anxiety was introduced, couldn't depression be introduced too, 339 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 3: a sense of what that looks like in navigating through 340 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 3: depression sadness to another level or degree, because I feel 341 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: like in the movie, sadness just felt kind of isolated 342 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 3: because it was like feeling so much emotion, but other 343 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: feelings were able to relate to each other. But I 344 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: feel like sadness needs like a cobody, and I feel 345 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: like depression could be present there because that is something 346 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 3: in which we all experience and can't experience. 347 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: I think that would be the ones I would be 348 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 2: interested in seeing. 349 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I also think it would be interesting 350 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: to think about jealousy going up as what it looks 351 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: like and how it looks different when you are transitioning 352 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: to a different stage in your life. But I really 353 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: like the idea of disappointment because I do think sometimes 354 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: when we get into that post college life or post 355 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 1: you know, that age, is when we might see our 356 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: first experience of disappointment. And we might even see that 357 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: with her later in high school, right like if she 358 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: doesn't actually make the hockey team or she wants to 359 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: be captain and she isn't chosen, I definitely think that 360 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: could show up even earlier. But you're right, definitely, like 361 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: a post college, first grown up job, we would definitely, 362 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: I think expect to see some disappointment there. And I 363 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: think to your point, that is also why it was 364 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: so poignant the way sadness was depicted that it was 365 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: often like this lonely feeling, right, because I think that 366 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: that is often what sadness feels like. And so if 367 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: they introduced a different feeling that was depression, which was 368 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: like even more sad, how would that look? What would 369 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: be the connection to sadness, How would the other emotional 370 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: characters interact with depression? I think could be really interesting. 371 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: Yes, for sure, for sure. 372 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, more from our conversation after the break, So was 373 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: there anything that you would have liked to see that 374 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: we didn't see as a part of Inside Out too. 375 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: I think I saw what I needed to see. 376 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: I would have been curious in seeing, like when she 377 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: broke into the coach's office to look into the notebook. 378 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 2: I was curious to see more play out on that 379 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: end of it. 380 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 3: But outside of that, I think I saw it needed 381 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 3: to be seen essentially for the mouse part, for what it. 382 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: Was, and again leaving the door open for future follow ups. 383 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: But you're right, I do think again they did such 384 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: a beautiful job of I think like capturing the emotional 385 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: landscape of a teen or preteen that it just was 386 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: incredible And I was not shocked to know that so 387 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: many mental health professionals actually consulted on the film, because 388 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: I think that that is why they got so much 389 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: of it right and really dug deeply into the interior 390 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: lives of teens and preteens, which then led to the 391 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: depiction I think feeling very realistic, Yes, eat. 392 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: With her imagination, like when she was trying to sleep 393 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 3: and she couldn't sleep because anxiety was like doing all 394 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: these intrusive thoughts with all the different outcomes. So if 395 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 3: you make the team, but if you don't, So even 396 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: that part of it, I was like, Wow, they really 397 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 3: like the drawing up conclusions. I was like, Oh, this 398 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: is like they're literally drawn out, like they really did that. 399 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. That was one of the things that I thought like, oh, 400 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: this would be a great intervention to use with clients 401 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: because if you think about like negative self talk as 402 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: this call center basically in the middle of your brain 403 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: that is just like, okay. 404 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: What do you got? 405 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: Give me something real negative on day? That is just 406 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: such a brilliant depiction of how I think these negative 407 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: thoughts pop into our heads that we can think about 408 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: it as these little whatever is at this just throwing 409 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: up something on the screen to give us a different 410 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: image of ourselves. And things that we would rather push away, 411 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: that it's their job to just keep doing this and 412 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: they're under the command of some other person asking for this. 413 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: That part because it was like joy, like she knew 414 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: joy was in. 415 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: The world, because it was like these are too positive, 416 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 3: this is too pleasant, make her feel relaxed, So you 417 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: can't do that. So they really did their thing with 418 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 3: making it diestible. Because even my family, we've talked about 419 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: the days after the movie when someone's experiencing emotion, Okay. 420 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: Who's center? 421 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: Like this is the language now we're using in the 422 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 3: house with each other. So I'm hoping that for other 423 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 3: families who were able to see the movie that can 424 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: now speak more with their emotional language, with the families, 425 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 3: with their children and their little ones, and even with 426 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: their partners. 427 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: Can you share maybe some strategies for people using this 428 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: in their lives with like you said, like maybe their 429 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: own children or children in their life. What kinds of 430 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: things do you give a great example of, like, Okay, 431 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: who's at the controls in theer now? Can you think 432 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: of other things that could spark conversations based on the 433 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: movies with our families. 434 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: Having conversations, so like identifying who's there right Number one 435 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: for having your family members either draw it out and 436 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: everyone can kind of pick what that looks like because 437 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 3: you and me see what Riotles's characters look like. 438 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: What does your characters look like? Who's in your control center? 439 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: And then even in the sense of things that bring 440 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 3: you joy, your happiness and those things, what memories, because 441 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: that's important to come into play that makes you feel happy. 442 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: What does your sense of self say? 443 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: Like when she went to the river and she put 444 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: the balls out there and she would pluck it, it 445 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: would be like that self talk? So what does your 446 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: self talk? What do you tell yourself regularly? Or how 447 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: do you feel about yourself? What does your language look 448 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 3: like you talk to yourself? So just identifying different things 449 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 3: to create the language, to build the conversation and then 450 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: from there growing from there, as well as expressing as 451 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 3: the parent or the adult or older person within your 452 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: household or family, like I feel this, so being a 453 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 3: model of it as well. 454 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: I think it's important. 455 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: Beautiful. So are there any other scenes that you felt 456 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: particularly moved by or are you really stuck with you 457 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: that we haven't talked about. 458 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 3: So you remember when joy was like, I know how 459 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: we can get back in the control center. And she 460 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: was like, we got to blow up all these memory, 461 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: like the memories that she had thrown out there, and 462 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: like when she blew them up on top of anxiety 463 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: being in the control center, Riley was flooded with emotions, 464 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 3: like all types of things was happening. So I think 465 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: in that sense, like for some clients, sometimes you can't 466 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 3: feel flooded with past emotions and feelings, and when that happens, 467 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: it can make you feel very anxious. And it could 468 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 3: happen in any moment. So that wasn't something that she 469 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: was expecting, but it happened. So it's like how to 470 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 3: navigate through those moments. I felt like I've had to 471 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: talk with the client before and we talked about that 472 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 3: particular scene because it's not in your control, and even 473 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: that part just an overall sense of control, knowing. 474 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: That it's okay to not be in control. It can 475 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: be in control of. 476 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 3: Everything, because you see what happened to anxiety when anxiety 477 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 3: was trying to be in control of the control center 478 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: and not allows space for everyone else. 479 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought that they did a beautiful job 480 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: of like showing not only can anxiety not be in 481 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: control all the time, but none of them really right, 482 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: So even joy, which I think most people associated as 483 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: a more positive so to speak, emotion or feeling like, 484 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: none of them need to be in control all the time, 485 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: and so how can they all work together to kind 486 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: of work towards a common goal. I thought was a 487 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: really really great message that they wanted us to take away. 488 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: Yes, And I think another thing they did very well 489 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 3: in the movie was still limiting beliefs. So I've heard 490 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: quite a few of them in the movie, like if 491 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: I'm not good at hockey, then I won't have friends. 492 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: So it was like this it then, and so. 493 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 3: That is what was driving the anxiety more and more 494 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: the language in which Riley was using for our self talk. 495 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: So I love that part because I've talked so much 496 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: with my clients about the importance of positive self talking 497 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: affirmations and being kind to ourselves and making sure like 498 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 3: if you say well, I'm dumb, like no your psyche 499 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 3: years that be very gentle and mindful of the words 500 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: you speak over yourself. 501 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: So I really loved how they did that and showed 502 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 2: that And to. 503 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: Your earlier point around like the flooding, I think that 504 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: is something that of course as clinicians we are mindful of, right, 505 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: which is why you don't want to go too deep 506 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: into the back of the closet until there are enough resources, 507 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: enough reserve, enough grounding techniques that you have actually taught 508 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: somebody to be able to do all of that work, 509 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: which I think, of course, if you are just like 510 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: doing it on your own, you don't necessarily know that 511 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: is maybe an unintended consequence that can happen. But to 512 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 1: your point, I thought it was a great depiction of 513 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: what can happen when you do like too much too 514 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: soon by yourself, in terms of trying to dig through 515 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: emotional stuff that you can end up feeling flooded. 516 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: Yes, And because you don't want to do that in 517 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: the first two sessions, you want to have that rapport 518 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: with the client before you go and get into talking 519 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: about their traumas or their experiences. 520 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: That are very heavy for them. 521 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: Now, you know, what I found was interesting, So I 522 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: think they probably did. I am hesitant to say the best, 523 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: but I did love the way that anger that they 524 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: show that there's a particular place and service for anger, right, 525 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: So like anger is used to get us out of 526 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: these tough spots right, like that you do need to 527 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: get angry sometimes because again, I think to our larger 528 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: conversation around like all emotions have a place. Anger is 529 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: one of those that I think people try to push 530 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: down and oh, I don't want to feel angry because 531 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel as socially acceptable. But I think that 532 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: this movie does a really good job of talking about 533 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: when anger actually is needed, Like you do need anger 534 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: as a part of your emotional. 535 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: Landscape, absolutely, absolutely, just everything can't be slunshine and rainbows 536 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: right sometimes propels us forward if we need like that 537 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: push or that drive and that energy. So yes, I 538 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 3: definitely agree, And I love how anger would be like 539 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 3: don't set me that flame come up? 540 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 5: Might yet. 541 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: I definitely chadded that for sure. 542 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Yes, so for anybody who may be loved inside out 543 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: and inside out to Are there other movies that you 544 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: found particularly helpful that could be used for both children 545 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: and adults, or other books and things that you find 546 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: yourself using that could be you know, people want to 547 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: continue with this kind of imagery and messaging. 548 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: Was the one movie with the panda? What was that one? 549 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: Oh, turning Red, Turning Red? 550 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: Yes, that one was a good one that kind of 551 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: compliments because it's doing like that puberty sage too. I 552 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: think I would be very interested in seeing a new 553 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: film done from a boy's perspective, navigating through emotions. 554 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: I think that is what's. 555 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: Now needed because Turning Red was more so female based 556 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 3: and girl based with the friends and so it's inside 557 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: out too. 558 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: So I'm very. 559 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 3: Interested in seeing the film done around boys so they can. 560 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 2: Have that representation as well, because it looks different. 561 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just thinking, like, how would it look different? 562 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean, and I think some of the emotions would 563 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: be the same, but I think the things that they 564 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: would say might be very different. So I love that. 565 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: I love that call out, like, Okay, what can we 566 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: get into the head of a little boy and see 567 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: what kinds of different ways this shows up? 568 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: Yes, come on, Danceney Pixar ready, I love that. 569 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: Okay, So anything else. In addition to Turning Red, there 570 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: is a. 571 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: Book that talks about emotions for kids. Breathing makes It Better, That's. 572 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: What it's called. 573 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: But it just talks about the importance of breathing as 574 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 3: we have calm me and self down. 575 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 2: It's a comple mechanism. 576 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I hadn't seen that one. I don't do a 577 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: lot of kid work, so I'm not as up to 578 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: all the things that people use for kid clients, so 579 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: that sounds like a great option though. 580 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: Or my adult clients won't have any books I can 581 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: think of at the moment. 582 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: Not closely alignment inside out too right, right right. 583 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: I think like the calm and headspace app are some 584 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: of the best for you know, just breathing exercises and 585 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: those kinds of things. I think that those are super helpful. 586 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: Or just going for a walk, go outside some fresh air, 587 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 3: those things because it's readily ava I'm accessiful agreed. 588 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you spending some more time with me today, 589 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: Gorgeous dissecting inside out. To please remind people where they 590 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: can connect with you if they'd like to. 591 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: Yes, you can find me on Instagram at Fixing the Fixer, 592 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 3: as well as www. 593 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: Dot fix and the fixer dot com perfect. 594 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: We will be short to include that in the show notes. 595 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Gorgeous, You are welcome. 596 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: Thank you a getting back to Jolie. 597 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: More from our conversation after the break. So I am 598 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: joined today my two very special guests who are making 599 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: their next appearance because they've been here guests with me 600 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: several times. If you would please do us a favor 601 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: and introduce yourself, tell the audience who you are and 602 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: what you enjoy. 603 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 5: Hi, my name is and I enjoyed being with my mother. 604 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: Hello people, my name is Jackson, and I enjoy playing 605 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 5: Fortnite and I'll be Madden two k all they do 606 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 5: games and such. 607 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: So we are here today to do a review of 608 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: a movie that we saw recently, or maybe not so recently, 609 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: Inside Out Too. So, Julie and I wonder if you 610 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: could get us started by telling us what you thought 611 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: about the movie. 612 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 5: The movie was great, fun and enjoying. 613 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: Enjoyable, Yeah, enjoyable. Would you recommend it to other people? 614 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 5: Yes? 615 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: Okay? What was your favorite part about the movie? 616 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 5: My favorite part about the movie was when they said, ooh, 617 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 5: deep Dish stole warm geese. 618 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: So you like some of the jokes in the movie. Okay, Jackson, 619 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: what did you think about the movie? 620 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 5: I loved you personally. I just thought it was super funny. 621 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 5: One anxiety. It just went crazy with the computer. 622 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: Ooh, So what do you guys think was like the 623 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: underlying message of the movie. 624 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 5: Underlying message was like all those people that were there. 625 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 5: That was all joys, like feelings. 626 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: Riley's feeling those were all of her feelings. Okay, what 627 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: about you, Jackson, what did you think the underlying theme 628 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: of the movie, the underlying message? 629 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 5: Uh? What Riley's thoughts and perspective? Or inside Out? 630 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 1: Mmmm? Okay? You both saw Inside Out one the first movie. 631 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: How did you think inside Out too compared to Inside Out? 632 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 5: I can't really think about inside Out and Inside Out Too. 633 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 5: You don't remember, well, I watched both of them at school. 634 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: So well, you didn't watch Inside Out at two at school. 635 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 5: So I'd probably say inside everyone is better? 636 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: You like the first one better? 637 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 5: Yeah? I say, I like the new characters. 638 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: Oh, you like the new character? So which new character 639 00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: do you feel like you liked best? 640 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: Okay? 641 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: Hm, hmmm which one? Jackson? 642 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: We we on we on. 643 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: We You like that one best? 644 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 5: Why? 645 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: French? 646 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: And you like the French? Okay? And which one was 647 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: your favorite? 648 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 4: On? 649 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 5: We and that big peak guy sensitivity? 650 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: I think was he Embarrassment? But what was his name? 651 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 5: Embarrassment? 652 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: So you thought Embarrassment was your favorite new character? What 653 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: did you like so much about him? 654 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 5: Like at the end he wasn't like so sensitive. 655 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so he liked that he wasn't so sensitive 656 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: at the end. Okay. One of Mommy's favorite parts of 657 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: the movie was the little news desk where you saw 658 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: all of the little thoughts that were in people's heads 659 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: that represented the different emotions. And everybody had like their 660 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: own little inside panel that looked just like them, except 661 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: they were emotions. So if you could look inside your 662 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: head and there was a panel of little emotions in 663 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: your head, what emotions would they be? 664 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 5: Sad, love, embarrassment, anger, joy, anxiety, and and on. 665 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: We okay, what about you, Jackson, what would your panel be? 666 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 5: Probably anxiety, nervousness, confidence. 667 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: Is that an emotion? We'll allow it. So both of 668 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: you said anxiety. And we've already talked a little bit 669 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: about the Anxiety character. So what did y'all think about 670 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: because she was a new character for Inside Out too, 671 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: what did y'all think about her as a new character? 672 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 5: She was good, funny, but she was a little bit 673 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 5: doing too much. 674 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: Oh, she was doing too much. Why do you think 675 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: she was doing too much? 676 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 5: Because like when Joyce said, don't do this, she did 677 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 5: it anyways, and then she broke rightly, she broke her 678 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 5: broke her like she was mean to her father and everything. 679 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: Oh okay, So what about you, Jackson, what were your 680 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: thoughts about Anxiety as a new character? 681 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 5: Astonished because she literally, figuratively and mentally broke Riley. Mm. 682 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: So, y'all both said that anxiety would be one of 683 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: the characters in your head too. So what makes you 684 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: say that? 685 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 5: Cause sometimes I have mental anxiety. 686 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have anxiety. Well, all of us have anxiety. 687 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: What sometimes is your anxiety about? 688 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 5: Oh? 689 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: About Arlot? Still? Okay? So if they had an inside 690 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: out three, what new emotions or new characters would you 691 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing? 692 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 5: Bully maybe? 693 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: Oh? 694 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 5: Bully, yeah, okay, putting down somebody. Oh and the athlete 695 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 5: type off even though she's already an athlete. 696 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: Mm hmm okay, those are the three you'd be interested athletical, athleticism. 697 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 5: Athletic cool, that's gonna be the name. 698 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: Oh, that's gonna be the name. Okay. What about you, Jackson? 699 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: What new emotions would you be interested in seeing? 700 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 2: Anger? 701 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 5: Just going to a second level of anger? 702 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: That would be funny. 703 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: What would be funny about that? Because, oh, you want 704 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: to see the same character but a different level. 705 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: I want to see crash out here. 706 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: Okay, So why do you think it is a good 707 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: movie for other people to check out? 708 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 5: Because it was funny comedy. It was comedy, tragic, tragic 709 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 5: in the turn of events and a turn of events. 710 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: Okay, what about you, Jackson? 711 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 5: If anybody elects to see people will just crash out. 712 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: So sorry, but I just couldn't hold. 713 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 5: Out crash out with anger. 714 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: I don't. 715 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 5: I think that's no, that's the best movie you could see. 716 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: Okay, So was there any parts of the movie that 717 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: made you sad or uncomfortable? 718 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 5: What where deciety broke right? 719 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 2: Oh? 720 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: When she just kind of spun out of control when 721 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: she was pushing all the buttons. Yeah, okay. The takeaway 722 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: that Mommy got was that all of the emotions had 723 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: a role. So Joy, it seemed like, was trying to 724 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: be in control the emotion Joy, like you're not your 725 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: mom Joy, the emotion Joy was trying to be in control. 726 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: And then these new emotions came along with the new friends, 727 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: and then she realized like, oh, I have to make 728 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: space for these new emotions also, And so the takeaway 729 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: for me was that all emotions have a role, even 730 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: when sometimes they feel uncomfortable or they feel like they're 731 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: difficult to be in your mind? What did you think 732 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: about that? 733 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 5: I felt like they had new emotions. But what if 734 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 5: they didn't have those emotions and Riley Stole would have 735 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 5: been the same. 736 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: M What do you think would have happened if they 737 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: didn't have those new emotions? 738 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 5: On We wouldn't be doing nothing. He would dish be 739 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 5: at his house on his phone. So there's no difference 740 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 5: between all we and them. But there was all we 741 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 5: that was this the channeling through the thumbs, and then 742 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 5: there was anxiety that was this way too anxiety, way 743 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 5: too anxious. Yeah, and then there's embarrassment. Embarrassment where he 744 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 5: is holds his jacket. 745 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: Like this and doesn't really want anybody to see his face. 746 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, because he's embarrassed that they're gonna make fun 747 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 5: of him. 748 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: Oh okay. So if you feel like you could pick 749 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: one of those characters who you feel like would be 750 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: most like you, which character would you say? It is anxiety? Okay? 751 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: And why would you say that? 752 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 5: First four day of school? Actually, I've been having to 753 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 5: do tests. 754 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: Mmm, that makes you anxi Just yeah, okay? What about you, Julie? 755 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: You said on We and Joy yeah, okay, why would 756 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: you pick those? 757 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 5: Because I like channeling and at school, I'm really kind 758 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 5: of joyful and nice. 759 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: Okay, beautiful, beautiful. Well this has been such great information, guys. 760 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: I always enjoy when you all join me for the podcast. 761 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: So what kinds of things if you had a goodbye 762 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: message to offer to our listeners after this episode? What 763 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: kinds of things would you want them to hear? 764 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,479 Speaker 5: I want them to hear if you're with God, done 765 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 5: anything's possible, and listen to what your parents say, and 766 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 5: be respectful and do everything you can and do it 767 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 5: at the highest limit. 768 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: Ooh, okay, what about you, Jackson? 769 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: You going to school? 770 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 5: Respect others, respect your parents, because without them, who knows 771 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 5: where you would be at? 772 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: Right now? Okay, I forgot. There's one other question that 773 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: I have. So we saw that these new emotions popped 774 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: up because Riley was actually experiencing a new thing. And 775 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: so that often is what happens when we experience new 776 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: things like going to a new school or starting school. 777 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: We have some new emotions sometimes. And so you all 778 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: just had a new transition to a new school. So 779 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: what kinds of emotions do you feel like you've been feeling? 780 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: As the school year just started, I've. 781 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 5: Been feeling anxious. You've been feeling anxious, embarrassed, embarrassed. How'd 782 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 5: you feeling anxious and embarrassed? Wow? About down the new 783 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 5: kid at school? 784 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: And have you made some friends or people that look 785 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: like they might be your friends? 786 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 5: I've made for friends four? 787 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So would you say you're off to a good start? 788 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 5: Yep? Okay? 789 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 1: What about you, Jackson? What kind of emotions do you 790 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: feel like you've had for this back to school week? 791 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: I was just a little embarrassed embarrassed about first day 792 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: of school? Why because I tried to walk you to 793 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 1: the classroom. 794 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, any ten year old would washing this. They have 795 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 5: to comment. It is embarrassing when you're in fifth grade 796 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 5: and your parents are still trying to walk you to school, like. 797 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: If you're a third grader. Okay, just embarrassing. 798 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll accept it. So embarrassment. What's your emotion then? 799 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 2: Now for that one time? 800 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: Okay? Is there anything else you all want to share 801 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: before we wrap up? 802 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 5: Anythings that I want to say? 803 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thank you so much for joining me again. Guys, 804 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 805 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 6: Bye, I'm so glad. 806 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: Gorgeous was able to join me today for this conversation. 807 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: To learn more about her and her work, visit the 808 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: show notes at Therapy for Blackgirls dot com slash inside 809 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: out to and don't forget to Text this episodes to 810 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: two of your girls right now and tell them to 811 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: check out the episode. 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