WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Veteran Help 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.920 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:17.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is the 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:22.239 Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:28.000 the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, heck 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:35.600 Ma Harrison and knew he scrugs, plays live. Let's right, 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.159 Let's right, Barry Church is here. Hecky Ma Harrison is here. 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.840 I'm knew, he scrugs. We're talking Dallas Cowboys. Which, yeah, 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:47.479 next forty five minutes right here from the Star Cowboy Headquarters. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:56.160 We're wide. Everybody's feeling good today? Howbody are really good today? Now? 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.200 I came out to slopes man Tows in Mexico. I 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.040 wasn't man, um, it was very good. Now. I did 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.280 not get out there scheme kids did? Kids are good? Man? 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.480 My kids are good. Um. I had to finish my 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.760 paper for school, but got done, got done. But beautiful, man, 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.759 I love, I love just the scene of it. Everything 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.280 was cool, Everything was cool. And then just sitting here 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.959 doing a paper band. Oh oh man, you needed a vacation. 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:26.040 Vacation has done you good. Energy hopped in here. Brandy 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:27.920 Cooks is here. So I see I was one of 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:32.360 those people. Was all I did not the conversations about. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.160 I don't Chris, I can't say his name because but 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.360 but a particular receiver that people were wanting. I did 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.600 not want this particular receiver, even though this particular receiver 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.480 had a very good career. I'm looking at no. No. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.720 When I saw Cooks, I'm like, Yes, Cooks was the 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.080 guy that they were trying that the Cowboys talked about getting. 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.160 Houston apparently wanted the third didn't work out. Cooks was upset. 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:55.600 Cooks wanted to be here. Yes, okay, Brandy Cooks wanted 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.200 to be here. And the Cowboys make the trade for 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:02.440 five and six eight million dollars salaries. Some people are like, oh, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.960 oh wait, Jerry Stephen went you go, well, we need 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.040 you to pay six He used to set fine. So 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.000 now it's twelve million dollars for a speed guy who's 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.280 had a thousand yards for forty different clubs. And I 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.399 said to myself, I know, heck, my Harrison is down 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.840 with that dude. Well, I want to think about Houston. 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:20.760 I want to say they have mastered the art of 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.760 making a bad deal because they had the better deal 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.560 last year. How do you fumble that? All right? And 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.720 then this year plus you have to pay you know, 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.120 six million on top of that. I think it's I 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:33.320 thought it was a good deal. I thought it was 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:37.519 one we should have pursued last season, but obviously that happened. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:41.000 I think he's the kind of player for Dak. The 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.799 speedy guy, the guy that can create a large zone 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.280 for Dak to throw into. A guy that's been in 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.600 the league for a long time, that's just twenty nine 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.680 years old, and so you think about him in his 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.480 career and the type of quarterbacks that he's played for. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.960 I think he's gonna fit in here nicely. The great 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.919 mystery is going to be how does because this is 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.919 a revamped offense. If if I'm thinking Kelly Moore's offense, 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.720 then I'm thinking okay, vertical, there is that we don't 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.160 know how Mike McCarthy is going to use him in 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.440 a traditional West Coast offense that he's run. But I 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.720 think Brandon Cooks was definitely the right decision. I think 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:22.360 that there's still even more decisions that can be made 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.240 in the wide receiver room. I don't know if they're 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.320 done yet, and I'm talking about via the draft or 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.040 or free agency. Look, I think it was I think 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.760 it was an extremely good acquisition to get Cooks because 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.560 if you look at it, that Trio receivers right now, 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.840 they have pretty much every box checked out there. You 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.000 got the mister doo it all, mister do everything in 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:43.880 cde Land. He can be that underneath guy. He can 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.560 be that jet sweep, he can be that guy in 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:49.040 third down clutch situations. You got Michael Gallups where I 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.160 think he'll get He'll improve from last year. I mean 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.080 he's coming off that acl You know, it always takes 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:54.520 like a year to get back to yourself. So I 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.760 think he's gonna improve from last year. And he could 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.520 be a physical, you know, fifty fifty ball type guy, 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.400 kind of go up there, kind of be that possession guy. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.160 And then you got your ticket off the top receiver 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.640 in Brandon Coles that you just said, that speed, that 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.520 burner mentality out there. He can open things up for 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.640 these other receivers out there, all those underneath guys. So 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.400 I think it was a great acquisition. And most importantly, man, 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.839 this this guy's been consistent. If you look at his 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.880 whole career, six of his nine years eight years in 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.320 the league, has gone over a thousand yards with multiple quarterbacks. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:25.640 So it's not like he you know, he had a 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.600 great guy out there the entire time to throw the 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.920 ball too. He had a thousand yards with Davis Mills. 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.240 I mean, so this guy is consistent out there, and 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.560 he can bring something to that wide receiver room that 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.120 they haven't had in a long time, kind of be 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.479 that father figure out there. So I love the acquisition, 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.680 love it. I love it how he and Davis Mills. 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:42.760 I know what that means. That's why I say he 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:50.000 gonna fit in nicely here with what he's hell and 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.039 then and then I take it a step further BC. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.440 I look at it like this, what if Brandon Cooks 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:58.479 just took the reps that Noah Brown got? Yeah? What switch? 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:03.080 You know? But what I'm saying, like, think about the 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.080 rep that the Jacksonville game, all the games where when 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.120 the Chips were down nor Brown was getting those opportunities 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.599 to come up big ceedee Lamb was not. You get 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.080 a bona fide We needed this, A playmaker, a guy 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.640 that has a pedigree, a champion. I mean, you get 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:22.840 all of that from from I love the acquisition, but again, 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.520 I say the same thing. I don't think that they're 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.960 done the way that they jumped out there and made 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.240 this one. I think there are plenty more that's on 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.039 the horizon. Okay, So let me put this to you 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.440 and never waiting to get it. You're you're safety in 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:42.440 the league. You got Cooks, Lamb Gallop. What are you doing? Man? 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.480 As a safety? It makes it extremely hard because you know, 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.440 get the last line of defense out there in the secondary, 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.320 especially if you're you know, like I'm the league Cooker 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.479 type guy who patrols the back end. You always gotta 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.159 have to be on top of that speed receiver. You 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.160 can't let anything get over your head. So you're gonna 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.520 always be aware of where um Bredon Cooks is gonna 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.600 be at in THEE. So if he's in a slotheart man, 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.320 let me focus over here. That leaves those other guys, 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.520 you know, basically one on one out there. I mean, 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.000 because if you do try to double team them, you're 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:09.760 gonna have to double one with a linebacker, and both 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.000 of those wide receivers Gallop and CD Lamp can run 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.240 by a linebackers. So to me, it's gonna be it's 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.719 gonna put a bind on safeties out there, especially if 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.200 they use Cooks as a vertical threat out there, because 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.240 he has this b to be able to burn buy 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.680 secondaries out there. So it put safeties in a bind. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.240 You're gonna have to put maybe even two safeties back deep. 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.000 And we know what that does for the running game. 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.120 It opens up the box for a pillar whoever else 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.279 is gonna be running the football out there. So it 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.480 creates a dynamic offensively where you can put defenses in 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.560 an extreme bind and hopefully they can take advantage of that. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.359 And it lists your tight ends eat. Yes, your tight 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.240 ends eat. And I think for Dak Prescott in his 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.159 production that he had last season and seasons before, he's 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:49.919 gonna allow for the tight end to eat. And we 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.160 have two very good young tight ends in the system. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.880 And just as you just stated, I mean, I feel 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.120 the same way. The speed on the outside changes the 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.320 middle of the field. And if we can play that 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:05.159 chess match with defensive coordinators where they don't know who 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.119 is the read for offer for Dak Prescott. So look, 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.720 the one thing that I'm still looking at and still 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.560 have some concerns is obviously in the running game. Um 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.280 wait no, but I think what he was just saying 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.000 about how Brandon cooks and his what he's stretching out. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.640 It opens it up for the running game, and there's 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.080 my concern right there. Can we take advantage of it? 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.080 So I'm looking right now, just right now for you, 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:34.000 for you guys, are you fine with your receiving corps 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.800 or is there anything else you feel you need at 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:41.600 that just the wide receiver position. I still man look 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.040 last year. I go back to what Ceede Lamb did 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.600 last year. It took him maybe five or six games 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:47.880 to warm up, and I think a lot of that 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.160 had to do with the fact that Dak wasn't there. 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.680 They didn't have much of a preseason to work with 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.880 one another, and so I think it took them a 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.360 long time to get started. I'm still wondering where Michael 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.360 Gallup is and what's going to be Brandon Cook's impact. 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.080 I just believe that there are other playmakers still out 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.880 there to be had. I think they're maybe playmakers in 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.200 the in the draft still to be had. So I'm 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.840 wondering what they're gonna do. What you know, what they're 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:17.600 gonna do. Because we ended the season saying Dak needs weapons. Yeah, 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.920 it seems like that's what they're trying to do, is 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.960 get him weapons. We got rid of some guys, but 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.080 we definitely brought in someone. And I don't think that 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.600 they're done. That's why I keep reiterating that, because we 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:31.880 know what Dak needs. Yeah, I would love to have 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.320 just a little bit more depth pieces out there. You know, nothing, 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.520 you know, spectacular nothing, you know, oh my goodness, grabbing headlines. 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.880 But we need death because like you said, you know, 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.200 one injury away and then we have, you know, semi 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.839 for Hoko or Jalens Holbert having to come in and 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.400 we all know, no disrespect to those guys, but we 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:49.320 know they're not the player that can, you know, take 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.120 this offense to the next level. So I would like 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.360 to have some death pieces in there, just some more 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.440 options for Dak Prescott to have out there and spread 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.080 the football around. But again, those young tight ends could 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.400 be that fourth option as well. So I would like 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.960 more death pieces. But like I said, this close acquisition 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.520 to me, I feel like it's a it's a home run. Okay, 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:11.160 So trying to be nice at I say this disrespect, 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:15.400 but no disrespect, but disrespect. It was a rough year 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:20.079 for Jalen Tilburt last year and they tell you that 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.319 the biggest growth a player has is from year one 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:27.440 year two. Terrence Steele a very good good you know, 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.360 well we saw him. You know they played a lot 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.160 as a rookie, was rough. Second year man, he got 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.960 the program offseason, lifted weights, took it serious. Band. You know, 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.120 we see what he is now a starting football player. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.319 What's our hope for Jalen Tilbert Now that you have 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.800 a pro bowler and Cedee Lamb a veteran and Brandon 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.680 Cook who's been a Pro bowler and played in two 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:56.439 Super Bowls? Um, how can they grow this young man up? 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.800 To me? You know, he needs to focus more on 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.360 other aspects of the game because if you look at it, well, 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.520 how did know a brown stick around so long? He 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.480 was on special teams making an impact out there. You're 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.440 talking about a guy who's a top one hundred pig 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.920 and he wasn't suiting up like you're not. You can't 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.040 make the ball club on special teams. I mean that's 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.640 extremely difficult. And you're already talking about I can contribute 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.199 to this wide receiver room. No, we need you to 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.599 contribute to this team overall. And for him to be 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.200 able to do that, I think he needs to step 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.400 up and can become better as a special teams player 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.000 to show his value to this team and then start 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.680 to work into the offense. But if you're not even 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.000 playing special teams as you know, as a third round 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.680 pick coming in, you're not even suiting up, and that's 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.200 not a good sign for me. That's not good sign 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.480 at all. I appreciate the Cowboys saying, look, this isn't 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.760 working out. Let's make something else shape, let's not keep, 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.160 Let's not stay enamored with a player that the production 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.560 isn't there. And I mean, come on, Barry, you say 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:53.160 it perfectly about contributing in other areas. Obviously, he's never 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.679 played any special teams. Did he do that at Southern Alabama? 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.040 Did he do that? And you know, when it as 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.920 far as his development as a as a football player, 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.920 I think he's always been on the latter end of 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.480 a guy that maybe we placed two high of an 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.440 expectation on him coming in out of the you know, 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:13.360 out of the draft. Um, it's unfortunate, but he's gonna 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.840 have to battle uh this camp because I don't know 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.360 if they you know, how do you keep all these guys, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.320 and especially if you have a guy that's not suiting 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.679 up and a guy that can't contribute on special team. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:28.640 So this is a man, This is a great You 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.960 gotta see if we get Will McClay one day. I 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:36.360 hate him up. This is Will mc clay question. I mean, 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.839 we talk about the whole development of it. Gain like, okay, 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.959 now that you and the staff if saw what happened 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.360 and you know and they've admitted, okay, we probably put 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:49.480 too much on him or expected more. How do you 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.640 get the player to where he needs to be Because 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.640 Jerry Rice's first year was not good. The national Football 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:58.439 not comparing him or trying to say he's going to 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.160 be Jerry Rice, Troy Palla Malo's first year with the 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.520 Pittsburgh Steelers, it was it was some growing pains. So 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.640 how do they view him and how do you get 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.520 a young guy to realize this is different. I don't 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.760 know if Jalen Tilbert bought his own hype. I don't 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.160 know if he thought it would be as easy as 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.320 it was in South Alabama. Clearly there's a jump him. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:22.720 A man wasn't ready. But I would say this, I 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:24.640 don't want to give up on a guy after just 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.040 one year, they say about three years, you will know, 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:33.199 maybe it's two now today's accelerated in NFL. But then 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.280 I just say, but you know, I'm kind of getting 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:39.920 on the hopium training here. Come on, I got you. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:45.000 What if the player starts to realize what it takes 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.079 to play at this level and reaches what they want. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:54.960 Now you're talking about potentially four receivers who could help 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.040 you in a seventeen game schedule. Guys are gonna get hurt. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:12:59.880 You're going to need help in depth, which is kind 0:12:59.920 --> 0:13:01.199 of where I was getting to the whole thing. And 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.000 you need depth. You're going to need more guys. So 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.560 what are you gonna carry six receivers? If he's gonna 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.480 be one of the guys is gonna get kept and 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.679 potentially be on game day? What is where does he 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.719 need to get to in his development? That's you know 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.640 for me him, he needs it, he needs it? Can 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:19.000 he beat that guy? Kenny? You don't give up on 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:22.200 third round picks around here. They're not giving up on 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.320 a third round pick. They're going to keep grinding away. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.400 But what if you talk old the pick, I mean 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.559 just playing mean, what if you made it. What if 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:33.040 you have a guy that can't get it in the NFL. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:34.880 I mean, whatever it was, it had to be something 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.960 mental with him in his development. It just didn't pan out. 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.160 Oh and we saw so many games where he didn't 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:44.080 dress out. That's wishful thinking. I mean, this is all 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.640 of this heck is kind of dissecting of here's what 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.559 you had out of the player year one, where do 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.760 you go? I remember Josh Ball. They talked about him 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.200 and just saying, hey, look, you know what we looked 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.440 at him his first year because he had the shoulder injury, 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.680 was kind of a red shirt, and so this year 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:00.920 kind of all right, you know some ways his rookie year, 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.120 and he's still learning because they remember that remember the 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:04.960 game when a man was out here almost lost it 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.680 at the right tackle. They went right, Dad going to 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.880 Jason PM. I don't know what he whispered, Jesse Peoples 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.280 have gotten the game. They ended up winning the game. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.680 But McCarthy's very good about talking about how, you know 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.280 there is a development for guy. We look so so 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.000 many times, we just want to look at the platfoom, 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.480 that guy's ready to go. Everybody ain't like that. Everybody 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.000 everybody ain't like that. Guys don't turn into Terence Williams's overnight. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.960 I mean, we think talk about development guys, more guys 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.120 developing into the receivers. Uh that that you need him to. 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.520 It's man, it's you don't have a crystal ball on 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.160 this thing, and we need the death piece that you 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.760 were talking about. And I'm thinking about guys like t 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.240 Y Hilton that we bought in late in the season 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:50.360 that may be your option. I'm saying, like, I really 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.680 appreciate the front office not saying, look, we're gonna shoot 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:54.960 this guy up and we just gotta we're gonna force it. 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.040 We just gotta be right on this guy. He didn't 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.400 have it at year one and does it. This is 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.400 the critical juncture when they talk about the biggest growth 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.840 you have to year one, a year two. After year one, 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.240 Terrence Steele was not a guy many of us were 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.720 high on. No. And now we look at Terrence Steele 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.600 and I mean, first off, when I went to camp, 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.360 he looked different. Okay, that second year when saw him 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.880 ot in calf, he looked different. He put in the 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:24.120 work and McCarthy spoke glowingly over and over about what 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:28.520 he did to get himself better. Man, some people get 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.240 Tyler Smith got it and we didn't think so coming 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:35.440 out of Tulsa, but he pleasant surprise, Yeah he got it. 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.600 So coaching is teaching, and lord knows, I'll never be 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:44.600 a teacher, guys, but good teachers can figure out how 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.880 does the student learn, what needs to do? What do 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:48.800 they need to do to grow the student up? And 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.800 how do you get They talk about what Tony Romo 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.720 got here. You were here with Tony. You came in 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.320 with Tony Man Tony was they had to change his 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.000 throwing motion, Crispan was it was it, David Lee. They 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.760 had worked with Tony under throwing motion year, Chris Bean, 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.360 but you you had They had to work with Tony 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.600 for a couple of years before he was ready to go. Yeah, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.560 that's true. I mean, to me, it's just a telltale 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.320 sign that when your special teams coach kind of wants 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.360 nothing to do with you on his teams. I mean, 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.600 usually those guys are solivating over to you know, let 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.200 me get out, take anybody, let me get this guy, 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.480 let me get when they're not willing to put you 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.440 on the special teams that make you dress for the 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.400 games to tell time man and did he did he 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:29.040 eat the humble pie needed to eating the time? So 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.480 let me ask you this, what type of production are 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.960 we now expecting from our fourth receiver with with Brandon 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.280 Cooks and and Gallup and ceedee lamb. What are the 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.080 numbers that we're expecting? I mean, round numbers, doesn't matter. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:43.720 I would love it to be, you know, not as 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.800 as good as Noah Brown was receiving the ball, but 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.160 there's as an impact you know, maybe a catcher to 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.120 a game special teams balling on every single one of them. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.120 That's what I think as a fourth wide receiver, at 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:55.800 least that's when when we were when I was playing, 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.320 it was, you know, that fourth wide receiver had to 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.520 be a core special teams guy. And he would come 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.720 in like Sam Hurd, he would come in and do 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.920 another great name. He would come in and do his 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.359 thing on our offense. You know, maybe one two catches 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.280 here and there, but his main thing with special teams 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.760 and contributing to the team and whichever way he could get. 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:17.080 Will McClay yea, so we can help. Come on, let's 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.720 get our first break here in on the players Lunch 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.439 brought to you by Tostitos so a trade for Brandon 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.600 Cooks a trade for Stefan Gilmour. Let's dive into the 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.080 defensive side of things with heck Ma Harrison Bury Church. 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.080 I knew we Scruggs players Lugs brought to you by 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:34.480 Tostitos on daw scouts dot Com Radio. 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