1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is the 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, heck 5 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Ma Harrison and knew he scrugs, plays live. Let's right, 6 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: Let's right, Barry Church is here. Hecky Ma Harrison is here. 7 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm knew, he scrugs. We're talking Dallas Cowboys. Which, yeah, 8 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: next forty five minutes right here from the Star Cowboy Headquarters. 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: We're wide. Everybody's feeling good today? Howbody are really good today? Now? 10 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: I came out to slopes man Tows in Mexico. I 11 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: wasn't man, um, it was very good. Now. I did 12 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: not get out there scheme kids did? Kids are good? Man? 13 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: My kids are good. Um. I had to finish my 14 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: paper for school, but got done, got done. But beautiful, man, 15 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: I love, I love just the scene of it. Everything 16 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: was cool, Everything was cool. And then just sitting here 17 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: doing a paper band. Oh oh man, you needed a vacation. 18 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: Vacation has done you good. Energy hopped in here. Brandy 19 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Cooks is here. So I see I was one of 20 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: those people. Was all I did not the conversations about. 21 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't Chris, I can't say his name because but 22 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: but a particular receiver that people were wanting. I did 23 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: not want this particular receiver, even though this particular receiver 24 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: had a very good career. I'm looking at no. No. 25 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: When I saw Cooks, I'm like, Yes, Cooks was the 26 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: guy that they were trying that the Cowboys talked about getting. 27 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Houston apparently wanted the third didn't work out. Cooks was upset. 28 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: Cooks wanted to be here. Yes, okay, Brandy Cooks wanted 29 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: to be here. And the Cowboys make the trade for 30 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: five and six eight million dollars salaries. Some people are like, oh, 31 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: oh wait, Jerry Stephen went you go, well, we need 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: you to pay six He used to set fine. So 33 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: now it's twelve million dollars for a speed guy who's 34 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: had a thousand yards for forty different clubs. And I 35 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: said to myself, I know, heck, my Harrison is down 36 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: with that dude. Well, I want to think about Houston. 37 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I want to say they have mastered the art of 38 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: making a bad deal because they had the better deal 39 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: last year. How do you fumble that? All right? And 40 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: then this year plus you have to pay you know, 41 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: six million on top of that. I think it's I 42 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: thought it was a good deal. I thought it was 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: one we should have pursued last season, but obviously that happened. 44 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: I think he's the kind of player for Dak. The 45 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: speedy guy, the guy that can create a large zone 46 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: for Dak to throw into. A guy that's been in 47 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: the league for a long time, that's just twenty nine 48 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: years old, and so you think about him in his 49 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: career and the type of quarterbacks that he's played for. 50 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna fit in here nicely. The great 51 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: mystery is going to be how does because this is 52 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: a revamped offense. If if I'm thinking Kelly Moore's offense, 53 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: then I'm thinking okay, vertical, there is that we don't 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: know how Mike McCarthy is going to use him in 55 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: a traditional West Coast offense that he's run. But I 56 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: think Brandon Cooks was definitely the right decision. I think 57 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: that there's still even more decisions that can be made 58 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: in the wide receiver room. I don't know if they're 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: done yet, and I'm talking about via the draft or 60 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: or free agency. Look, I think it was I think 61 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: it was an extremely good acquisition to get Cooks because 62 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: if you look at it, that Trio receivers right now, 63 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: they have pretty much every box checked out there. You 64 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: got the mister doo it all, mister do everything in 65 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: cde Land. He can be that underneath guy. He can 66 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: be that jet sweep, he can be that guy in 67 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: third down clutch situations. You got Michael Gallups where I 68 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: think he'll get He'll improve from last year. I mean 69 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: he's coming off that acl You know, it always takes 70 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: like a year to get back to yourself. So I 71 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: think he's gonna improve from last year. And he could 72 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: be a physical, you know, fifty fifty ball type guy, 73 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: kind of go up there, kind of be that possession guy. 74 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: And then you got your ticket off the top receiver 75 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: in Brandon Coles that you just said, that speed, that 76 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: burner mentality out there. He can open things up for 77 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: these other receivers out there, all those underneath guys. So 78 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: I think it was a great acquisition. And most importantly, man, 79 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: this this guy's been consistent. If you look at his 80 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: whole career, six of his nine years eight years in 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: the league, has gone over a thousand yards with multiple quarterbacks. 82 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: So it's not like he you know, he had a 83 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: great guy out there the entire time to throw the 84 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: ball too. He had a thousand yards with Davis Mills. 85 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: I mean, so this guy is consistent out there, and 86 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: he can bring something to that wide receiver room that 87 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: they haven't had in a long time, kind of be 88 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: that father figure out there. So I love the acquisition, 89 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: love it. I love it how he and Davis Mills. 90 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: I know what that means. That's why I say he 91 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: gonna fit in nicely here with what he's hell and 92 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: then and then I take it a step further BC. 93 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: I look at it like this, what if Brandon Cooks 94 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: just took the reps that Noah Brown got? Yeah? What switch? 95 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: You know? But what I'm saying, like, think about the 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: rep that the Jacksonville game, all the games where when 97 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: the Chips were down nor Brown was getting those opportunities 98 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: to come up big ceedee Lamb was not. You get 99 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: a bona fide We needed this, A playmaker, a guy 100 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: that has a pedigree, a champion. I mean, you get 101 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: all of that from from I love the acquisition, but again, 102 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: I say the same thing. I don't think that they're 103 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: done the way that they jumped out there and made 104 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: this one. I think there are plenty more that's on 105 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: the horizon. Okay, So let me put this to you 106 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: and never waiting to get it. You're you're safety in 107 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: the league. You got Cooks, Lamb Gallop. What are you doing? Man? 108 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: As a safety? It makes it extremely hard because you know, 109 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: get the last line of defense out there in the secondary, 110 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: especially if you're you know, like I'm the league Cooker 111 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: type guy who patrols the back end. You always gotta 112 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: have to be on top of that speed receiver. You 113 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: can't let anything get over your head. So you're gonna 114 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: always be aware of where um Bredon Cooks is gonna 115 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: be at in THEE. So if he's in a slotheart man, 116 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: let me focus over here. That leaves those other guys, 117 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, basically one on one out there. I mean, 118 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: because if you do try to double team them, you're 119 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to double one with a linebacker, and both 120 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: of those wide receivers Gallop and CD Lamp can run 121 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: by a linebackers. So to me, it's gonna be it's 122 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: gonna put a bind on safeties out there, especially if 123 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: they use Cooks as a vertical threat out there, because 124 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: he has this b to be able to burn buy 125 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: secondaries out there. So it put safeties in a bind. 126 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to put maybe even two safeties back deep. 127 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: And we know what that does for the running game. 128 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: It opens up the box for a pillar whoever else 129 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: is gonna be running the football out there. So it 130 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: creates a dynamic offensively where you can put defenses in 131 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: an extreme bind and hopefully they can take advantage of that. 132 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: And it lists your tight ends eat. Yes, your tight 133 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: ends eat. And I think for Dak Prescott in his 134 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: production that he had last season and seasons before, he's 135 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: gonna allow for the tight end to eat. And we 136 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: have two very good young tight ends in the system. 137 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: And just as you just stated, I mean, I feel 138 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: the same way. The speed on the outside changes the 139 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: middle of the field. And if we can play that 140 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: chess match with defensive coordinators where they don't know who 141 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 1: is the read for offer for Dak Prescott. So look, 142 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: the one thing that I'm still looking at and still 143 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: have some concerns is obviously in the running game. Um 144 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: wait no, but I think what he was just saying 145 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: about how Brandon cooks and his what he's stretching out. 146 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: It opens it up for the running game, and there's 147 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: my concern right there. Can we take advantage of it? 148 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: So I'm looking right now, just right now for you, 149 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: for you guys, are you fine with your receiving corps 150 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: or is there anything else you feel you need at 151 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: that just the wide receiver position. I still man look 152 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: last year. I go back to what Ceede Lamb did 153 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: last year. It took him maybe five or six games 154 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: to warm up, and I think a lot of that 155 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: had to do with the fact that Dak wasn't there. 156 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: They didn't have much of a preseason to work with 157 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: one another, and so I think it took them a 158 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: long time to get started. I'm still wondering where Michael 159 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: Gallup is and what's going to be Brandon Cook's impact. 160 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: I just believe that there are other playmakers still out 161 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: there to be had. I think they're maybe playmakers in 162 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: the in the draft still to be had. So I'm 163 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: wondering what they're gonna do. What you know, what they're 164 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: gonna do. Because we ended the season saying Dak needs weapons. Yeah, 165 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: it seems like that's what they're trying to do, is 166 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: get him weapons. We got rid of some guys, but 167 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: we definitely brought in someone. And I don't think that 168 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: they're done. That's why I keep reiterating that, because we 169 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: know what Dak needs. Yeah, I would love to have 170 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: just a little bit more depth pieces out there. You know, nothing, 171 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, spectacular nothing, you know, oh my goodness, grabbing headlines. 172 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: But we need death because like you said, you know, 173 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: one injury away and then we have, you know, semi 174 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: for Hoko or Jalens Holbert having to come in and 175 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: we all know, no disrespect to those guys, but we 176 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: know they're not the player that can, you know, take 177 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: this offense to the next level. So I would like 178 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: to have some death pieces in there, just some more 179 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: options for Dak Prescott to have out there and spread 180 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: the football around. But again, those young tight ends could 181 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: be that fourth option as well. So I would like 182 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: more death pieces. But like I said, this close acquisition 183 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: to me, I feel like it's a it's a home run. Okay, 184 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: So trying to be nice at I say this disrespect, 185 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: but no disrespect, but disrespect. It was a rough year 186 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: for Jalen Tilburt last year and they tell you that 187 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: the biggest growth a player has is from year one 188 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: year two. Terrence Steele a very good good you know, 189 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: well we saw him. You know they played a lot 190 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: as a rookie, was rough. Second year man, he got 191 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: the program offseason, lifted weights, took it serious. Band. You know, 192 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: we see what he is now a starting football player. 193 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: What's our hope for Jalen Tilbert Now that you have 194 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: a pro bowler and Cedee Lamb a veteran and Brandon 195 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: Cook who's been a Pro bowler and played in two 196 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: Super Bowls? Um, how can they grow this young man up? 197 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: To me? You know, he needs to focus more on 198 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: other aspects of the game because if you look at it, well, 199 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: how did know a brown stick around so long? He 200 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: was on special teams making an impact out there. You're 201 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: talking about a guy who's a top one hundred pig 202 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: and he wasn't suiting up like you're not. You can't 203 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: make the ball club on special teams. I mean that's 204 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: extremely difficult. And you're already talking about I can contribute 205 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: to this wide receiver room. No, we need you to 206 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 1: contribute to this team overall. And for him to be 207 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: able to do that, I think he needs to step 208 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: up and can become better as a special teams player 209 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: to show his value to this team and then start 210 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: to work into the offense. But if you're not even 211 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: playing special teams as you know, as a third round 212 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: pick coming in, you're not even suiting up, and that's 213 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: not a good sign for me. That's not good sign 214 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: at all. I appreciate the Cowboys saying, look, this isn't 215 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: working out. Let's make something else shape, let's not keep, 216 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: Let's not stay enamored with a player that the production 217 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: isn't there. And I mean, come on, Barry, you say 218 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: it perfectly about contributing in other areas. Obviously, he's never 219 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: played any special teams. Did he do that at Southern Alabama? 220 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: Did he do that? And you know, when it as 221 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: far as his development as a as a football player, 222 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: I think he's always been on the latter end of 223 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: a guy that maybe we placed two high of an 224 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: expectation on him coming in out of the you know, 225 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: out of the draft. Um, it's unfortunate, but he's gonna 226 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: have to battle uh this camp because I don't know 227 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: if they you know, how do you keep all these guys, 228 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: and especially if you have a guy that's not suiting 229 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: up and a guy that can't contribute on special team. 230 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: So this is a man, This is a great You 231 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: gotta see if we get Will McClay one day. I 232 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: hate him up. This is Will mc clay question. I mean, 233 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: we talk about the whole development of it. Gain like, okay, 234 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: now that you and the staff if saw what happened 235 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: and you know and they've admitted, okay, we probably put 236 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: too much on him or expected more. How do you 237 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: get the player to where he needs to be Because 238 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice's first year was not good. The national Football 239 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: not comparing him or trying to say he's going to 240 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: be Jerry Rice, Troy Palla Malo's first year with the 241 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, it was it was some growing pains. So 242 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: how do they view him and how do you get 243 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: a young guy to realize this is different. I don't 244 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: know if Jalen Tilbert bought his own hype. I don't 245 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: know if he thought it would be as easy as 246 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: it was in South Alabama. Clearly there's a jump him. 247 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: A man wasn't ready. But I would say this, I 248 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: don't want to give up on a guy after just 249 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: one year, they say about three years, you will know, 250 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: maybe it's two now today's accelerated in NFL. But then 251 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: I just say, but you know, I'm kind of getting 252 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: on the hopium training here. Come on, I got you. 253 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: What if the player starts to realize what it takes 254 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: to play at this level and reaches what they want. 255 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: Now you're talking about potentially four receivers who could help 256 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: you in a seventeen game schedule. Guys are gonna get hurt. 257 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: You're going to need help in depth, which is kind 258 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: of where I was getting to the whole thing. And 259 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: you need depth. You're going to need more guys. So 260 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: what are you gonna carry six receivers? If he's gonna 261 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: be one of the guys is gonna get kept and 262 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: potentially be on game day? What is where does he 263 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: need to get to in his development? That's you know 264 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: for me him, he needs it, he needs it? Can 265 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: he beat that guy? Kenny? You don't give up on 266 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: third round picks around here. They're not giving up on 267 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: a third round pick. They're going to keep grinding away. 268 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: But what if you talk old the pick, I mean 269 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: just playing mean, what if you made it. What if 270 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: you have a guy that can't get it in the NFL. 271 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean, whatever it was, it had to be something 272 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: mental with him in his development. It just didn't pan out. 273 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: Oh and we saw so many games where he didn't 274 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: dress out. That's wishful thinking. I mean, this is all 275 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: of this heck is kind of dissecting of here's what 276 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: you had out of the player year one, where do 277 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: you go? I remember Josh Ball. They talked about him 278 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: and just saying, hey, look, you know what we looked 279 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: at him his first year because he had the shoulder injury, 280 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: was kind of a red shirt, and so this year 281 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: kind of all right, you know some ways his rookie year, 282 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: and he's still learning because they remember that remember the 283 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: game when a man was out here almost lost it 284 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: at the right tackle. They went right, Dad going to 285 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: Jason PM. I don't know what he whispered, Jesse Peoples 286 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: have gotten the game. They ended up winning the game. 287 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: But McCarthy's very good about talking about how, you know 288 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: there is a development for guy. We look so so 289 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: many times, we just want to look at the platfoom, 290 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: that guy's ready to go. Everybody ain't like that. Everybody 291 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: everybody ain't like that. Guys don't turn into Terence Williams's overnight. 292 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we think talk about development guys, more guys 293 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: developing into the receivers. Uh that that you need him to. 294 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: It's man, it's you don't have a crystal ball on 295 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: this thing, and we need the death piece that you 296 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: were talking about. And I'm thinking about guys like t 297 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: Y Hilton that we bought in late in the season 298 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: that may be your option. I'm saying, like, I really 299 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: appreciate the front office not saying, look, we're gonna shoot 300 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: this guy up and we just gotta we're gonna force it. 301 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: We just gotta be right on this guy. He didn't 302 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: have it at year one and does it. This is 303 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: the critical juncture when they talk about the biggest growth 304 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: you have to year one, a year two. After year one, 305 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: Terrence Steele was not a guy many of us were 306 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: high on. No. And now we look at Terrence Steele 307 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: and I mean, first off, when I went to camp, 308 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: he looked different. Okay, that second year when saw him 309 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: ot in calf, he looked different. He put in the 310 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: work and McCarthy spoke glowingly over and over about what 311 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: he did to get himself better. Man, some people get 312 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith got it and we didn't think so coming 313 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: out of Tulsa, but he pleasant surprise, Yeah he got it. 314 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: So coaching is teaching, and lord knows, I'll never be 315 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: a teacher, guys, but good teachers can figure out how 316 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: does the student learn, what needs to do? What do 317 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: they need to do to grow the student up? And 318 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: how do you get They talk about what Tony Romo 319 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: got here. You were here with Tony. You came in 320 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: with Tony Man Tony was they had to change his 321 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: throwing motion, Crispan was it was it, David Lee. They 322 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: had worked with Tony under throwing motion year, Chris Bean, 323 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: but you you had They had to work with Tony 324 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: for a couple of years before he was ready to go. Yeah, 325 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: that's true. I mean, to me, it's just a telltale 326 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: sign that when your special teams coach kind of wants 327 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: nothing to do with you on his teams. I mean, 328 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: usually those guys are solivating over to you know, let 329 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: me get out, take anybody, let me get this guy, 330 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: let me get when they're not willing to put you 331 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: on the special teams that make you dress for the 332 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: games to tell time man and did he did he 333 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: eat the humble pie needed to eating the time? So 334 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, what type of production are 335 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: we now expecting from our fourth receiver with with Brandon 336 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: Cooks and and Gallup and ceedee lamb. What are the 337 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: numbers that we're expecting? I mean, round numbers, doesn't matter. 338 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: I would love it to be, you know, not as 339 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: as good as Noah Brown was receiving the ball, but 340 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: there's as an impact you know, maybe a catcher to 341 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: a game special teams balling on every single one of them. 342 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: That's what I think as a fourth wide receiver, at 343 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: least that's when when we were when I was playing, 344 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: it was, you know, that fourth wide receiver had to 345 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: be a core special teams guy. And he would come 346 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: in like Sam Hurd, he would come in and do 347 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: another great name. 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I was today, 410 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: wasn't I needed him because I wanted to know how 411 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: he felt about some of these acquisitions. So Brandon Cooks, 412 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: we spoke about him in the first second. All of 413 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: us or down, gave it a thumbs up with that pixel. 414 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: We're all down with that. So yes, good trade. Before 415 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: they got Cooks, they made the trade for Stepan Gilmore, 416 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: the cornerback from Indianapolis, former Super Bowl winner with the Patriots, 417 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: former NFL Defensive Player of the Year. And it's making 418 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: less than ten million dollars. Guys, unbelievable, like lesson ten? 419 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: It was it like nine. So anyway, bottom line is 420 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: you put it next to Digs, Gilmore, Dicks, no Fitz, 421 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, no Fitz Anthony nice job when he was here, 422 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: Ye okay, nice job. This, in my opinion, is an upgrade. 423 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: With all the doubt, I believe it's an upgrade. And 424 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: as much as I like that Cook's acquisition, I'm in 425 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: love with this one. I love this one because you 426 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: look at Stefan Gilmour and not only is a great player, 427 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: he's a prose pro. I mean, you never hear anything 428 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: about Gammer. He goes out there, does his job, leaves. 429 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a prose pro out there, and he 430 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: still can play at a high level. I'm not saying 431 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: he's a top three corner in the National Football League, 432 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: but I give him top ten. He's top ten out there. 433 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: He can play man, he can play zone. His football 434 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: IQ is off the charts. And not only will he 435 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: bring that play to the field for the Dallas Cowboys, 436 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: where you're gonna have two book and corners out there 437 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: that you can just say, hey, go lock up and 438 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: we can go sending the troops after this quarterback, but 439 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: I think he can also teach Digs a thing or 440 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: two about the game, the little nuances of it, when 441 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: the guests when to be on top of routes, when 442 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: to be able to go in there and not take 443 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: too many gambles. He can teach Digs the ropes and 444 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: the little nuances of the cornerback position, similar to how 445 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: te why did you know Ceedee Lamb last year? So 446 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: I think this is an unbelievable acquisition. And like you said, 447 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: they got him, you know eight whatever, eight nine million, 448 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: under ten million dollars, which is an unbelievable thing for 449 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: a guy that can still play at a high level. 450 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: And you put him in dan Quinn's defense with that 451 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: pass rush, quarterbacks are gonna have to throw the ball 452 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: out quick and man, it's man. I love. I love 453 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: the acquisition. Dog. I have nothing to add to what 454 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: you just said because she said what needed to be 455 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: sad VC Okay, I told you last week, man, I 456 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: was so ticked off about the fact that we didn't 457 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: sign Jalen Ramsey, that we didn't make that move. I 458 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: thought that was something easy for us to do. We 459 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: doubled down, We come right back, and what do we do. 460 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: We bring out Steph fund Gilmore and I think we 461 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: even up to Annie when it comes down to quarterbacks 462 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: in this league. One thing that I love about him is, 463 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: like you said, he played in a system where he 464 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: had to be multiple, So you know, dan Quinn is 465 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: gonna challenge him also to be multiple this or what 466 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: he does is he brings validd to a defense that's 467 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: already pretty damn good. Yeah all right, So I think 468 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: none of these guys are worried about, you know, the 469 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: credibility that they get from everyone else. But they're right 470 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: there on the peak and dan Quinn with dan Quinn's 471 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: defense and strategy to being one of the top defenses. 472 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: I think Stephan Gilmore is that guy that adds that 473 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: piece because where do you go now? Exactly where do 474 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: you go? Now? What do you do that same thing 475 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: that we were talking about, what do you do against 476 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: Brandon Brandon Cooks? What do how do teams try to 477 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: exploit this defense? The only place you can go sometimes 478 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: now is in the slot. We got some pretty good 479 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: slot guys, especially if Jay Luke can come back healthy. 480 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we just have options. I love it. 481 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: I absolutely love this, but I still think, as Danny 482 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: mccraige mentioned before about our defensive line, we still have 483 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: to be really good in this draft, and we still 484 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: got to be thinking forward who's out there in free 485 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: agency that we can bring in to shore up a 486 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: defensive line that's already pretty good. Gilmore and Cooks played 487 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: together on a Patriots Super Bowl team, and Cooks was 488 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: traded to Los Angeles the next year, ended up playing 489 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: the Patriots again, lost two Super Bowls in consecutive years. 490 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: Gilmore ended up winning the Super Bowl with the Patriots 491 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: when they when they played the Rams. By the way, 492 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: Cooks had a good game for the Rams and that 493 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and score a lot of points, but he 494 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: had a good game. I say this to go back 495 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 1: into a little bit of what you said before. You 496 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: need some guys in that room who've played in that game, 497 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: who know what it takes to get there. Gilmore's got 498 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: a ring, and I do believe it's a whole different 499 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: deal when you're talking to somebody like a Dig's, Hey, 500 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: you want to be defensive Player of the Year. I 501 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: want to win a Super Bowl. These are the things 502 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: you need to do. Brandon Cooks to sit up here 503 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: to talk to Lamb and maybe he's a guy who 504 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: ends up with Tolbert. Hey man, you want to get here. 505 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: This is what it takes. Coaches can coach all day long, Barry, 506 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: you've played. It's just a little bit something different when 507 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 1: you see it a peer, Oh, who's reached the levels 508 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: you'd like to get to. It without a doubt that 509 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: that peer conversation it's huge. I mean, as a young guy, 510 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, the guy that kind of looked out for 511 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: me and taught me the nuances of the game was 512 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: gerald Sincin Ball and you know he's never been to 513 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl or those highs of levels, but he 514 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: let me understand how how the NFL game works. You 515 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: know how tight ends like to release and when they 516 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: go this way, you know this is where they're gonna 517 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: pass the football. You know, you got to be smart 518 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: about it. He always taught me that, you know, you 519 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: may not be the fastest guy out there, because I wasn't. 520 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: I was a four or five, four to six guy. 521 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: But if you use your IQ and you study taping, 522 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: you show how these offenses come out in their formations 523 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: and where they like to go with the football, then 524 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: you can beat the quarterback to where he wants to 525 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: go to it. And a guy like since the Ball 526 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: taught me a lot about the game growing up and 527 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: was able to, you know, basically prolong with my career 528 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: because I wasn't the fastest guy out there. So to 529 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: have a veteran like these two guys have been to 530 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: the upper echelons. One of his defensive Player of the Year, 531 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: the other guy's been to Super Bowls consecutive thousand yards seasons. 532 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: They have nothing but knowledge, and I hope these young 533 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: guys who are extremely talented Cdee Lamb did they're extremely talented. 534 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: I hope they take this coaching not only from the 535 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: coaches themselves, but from these veteran players that have come 536 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: from the highest of levels. It can only help their 537 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: game step up even further. And I don't think people 538 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: recognize how young the Dallas Cowboys team is. You know, 539 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: there's still a young team. And when you have when 540 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: you bring a guy in like that, when I'm talking 541 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmore, that I mean, that's that's like I said, 542 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: that's validity. That's a guy that when he talks, you 543 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: listen because you know he's been there, He's learned from 544 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: some of the best in football. So you know, to me, 545 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: I don't think that I've never got the impression that 546 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: Diggs was one of these guys that needed leadership or 547 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: needed someone. It's not like that. But I think I 548 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: do believe iron sharpens iron, and when you have a 549 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: jural sense of ball, somebody that takes you under his wing. 550 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: Let's think about this. You come into the league meeting, 551 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: you don't know anything. You need to know the nuances 552 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: of everything that's going on on and off the field. 553 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Trevon Diggs again, he has a 554 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: big brother. That's already that in showing him the ropes, 555 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: but his playmaking ability, his resume speaks for itself, and 556 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: that to me, I mean dud, that is that's huge. Man. 557 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: I go back to Maria Cooper. When Marie Cooper got 558 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: in the room and was the lead dog as a 559 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: receiver changed a lot. It was different than when Dez 560 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: Bryant was there. Oh yeah. I am one of those 561 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: people that believe leadership counts and it's a small detail 562 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: when somebody else can say to you, came here, young fellow, 563 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: this is what what needs to happen. Charles Haley was 564 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: that kind of player when he came over from the 565 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. He had two rings. I 566 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: remember Super Bowl fifty two and the punk gets blocked 567 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are down in the game and Charles Haley, 568 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: the NFL Mike's picked it up. He was talking with 569 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: Bush David's like, hey, guys, Butch just trying to help us. 570 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: He settled things down and we saw what happened the 571 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys and when ended up winning Super Bowl twenty seven, 572 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: fifty two to seventeen. But it didn't start good for 573 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: you need guys like that. I'm a big believer in 574 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: bringing in dudes who have championship experience. I think it. 575 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: I think it matters. Been there. Yeah, And once again McCarthy, 576 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: he can only he can say so much. This is 577 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: a different vibe. And as a dude in the room, 578 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: who's with you that you came bullejide, you know, and 579 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: they just teach you the way to paytriots did a 580 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: great job with that. Rodney Harrison, that was some of 581 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: the stuff that he did with some of stuff. We 582 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: Llie mcginny, hey man, this is how we do it. Here. 583 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: They catch young guys coming in with McDonald's. 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Players tryed by those 653 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,239 Speaker 1: Tito's Barry Church has hair something to be scrubs. So 654 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: last year Dalton Schultz got the franchise tag as they 655 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: tied end uh ten million bucks. I remember going to 656 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: training camp. Boy. He spoke to us and he was 657 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: not happy. So I'm gonna talk about this one time. 658 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: Then later on he shut the media off. I'm gonna 659 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: talk nobody. M The man was not happy that he 660 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: didn't get a contract. Talk to somebody in the front 661 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: office and they said, hey, we offered him. He didn't 662 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: want it. Um, David and Joko got one of them 663 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: little crazy deals from Cleveland. When he saw it when 664 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: he's something man, he okay, but why are we people 665 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: should not be coming close to Travis Kelsey money because 666 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: they ain't Travis Kelce That's just my opinion. And the 667 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys were kind of like, hey, man, we like you, 668 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: but we don't like you that much. They offered him 669 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: a multiyear deal. He didn't take it, so played ten 670 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: million dollars for one year. Now he's a free agent. 671 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: I've heard nothing, not a thing. Nineteen well, let's hear 672 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: from the guy that didn't fumble the bag. Oh sometimes 673 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: it's Barkers dry up. You know, we talked about, you know, 674 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: with the running back situation during the break and how 675 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: you know these deals are in his high as we 676 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: thought going into free agency, and Shultz to me, and 677 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: I've said this from the beginning, you know, I think 678 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: he's a good tight end out there. I just don't 679 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: see him being as dynamic as a Kelsey, a kittle 680 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: and a joke who those type of guys that are 681 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: garnering that type of money. Because when you look at it, yes, 682 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: he's an amazing fit with Dak Prescott, he's his security 683 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: blanket out there. He understands how to get open versus 684 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: zones and all that great stuff. But when it comes 685 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: to blocking, when it becomes to being a multiple tool 686 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: type tight end out there, he's not really that. You know, 687 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: he struggles in the blocking game. If you split him 688 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: out one on one versus a dB, I'm not so 689 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: sure he can beat Matt consistently beat man to man 690 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: coverage out there. Yeah he eats and zones, Yeah he 691 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: eats against linebackers, but I don't see him as being 692 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: that dynamic of a player to garner a contract in 693 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: the ten million year a year range. And I don't 694 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys seeing him is that, you know as well? 695 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: So to me, you know, he took a bet on himself, 696 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: He took a gamble on himself. And you know, we'll 697 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: see what happens, you know where he's gonna sign. But 698 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: as of right now, it looks like it it dried 699 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: up on him a little bit. Yeah, bet on himself 700 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: and loss and the and and by the way, you 701 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: have two rookies coming behind you that just flat out 702 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: ball and also had you know, special team's impact as well. Um. 703 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what the initial offer was from the 704 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, but I would just guess that it's probably 705 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: gonna be what he ends up signing for anyway. UM. 706 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: In the market itself, I think guys like Gasecki from Miami, 707 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: I think he went to the Pattriots to go to 708 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: the Patriots, I mean, and comparable as far as tight 709 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: end talent in the way that you use them. So 710 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: I just man, I feel bad for Dalton shows because 711 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: and incentives in the contract gise again not ten million 712 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: a year, And I think what happens in football is 713 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: guys say, okay, I'm next up to sign, and they 714 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: start using the market value of the top guys. You're 715 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: not that, so you can't use that, you know, so 716 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: you don't ever confuse him with the Kittle and Kelsey's 717 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: of the league. But you know, as far as his 718 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: importance in this offense, I think Dak tried to you, 719 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,959 Speaker 1: I mean, get his best out of him. I wish 720 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: him nothing, but well, I don't know what the future 721 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: is though for him right because I haven't. The scary 722 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: part about Dalton shows is I haven't heard his name 723 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: at all. So first off, that tells you what the 724 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: market is. And add this to it, guys, they're talking 725 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: about this being a deep class for tight ends in 726 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: the draft, so you're not having to pay that kind 727 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: of money to get in that type of player. It's 728 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: so for Schultz, does he come back the way Lake 729 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: Vanderesh did that two years ago? Were you on one year? 730 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: You know? Five meal? But I don't even know if 731 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: he got to pay five That's what I'm saying. I 732 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: don't even know if you got to pay him five. 733 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean three, three and a half or 734 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: some the sentence. I mean you're If you're the Cowboys, 735 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: you're in a good position. Then you know, if he 736 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: was mad at ten million, you really wanted up in 737 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: the building, mad making making half that he ain't talking 738 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: to nobody. Wish he would, Oh we did that, but 739 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: I ain't talking. I'm okay, okay, all right, he want 740 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: to talk about the playoff? Loog okay. Fine. Um, but 741 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: you've got Jake Ferguson, you got pender Shot. You may 742 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: be able to go in the draft and say, okay, 743 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: let us go find someone who's more of a blocking 744 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: type tight end. I got two pass catchers. Let me 745 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: go get find that guy who's more of a blocker 746 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: than we could work with him on his hands. The Cowboys, 747 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: in my opinion, you guys tell me if you're wrong. 748 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: This is a position they have mastered in taking in 749 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, you go back to Jason Winten. Jason 750 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: winn was the third round pick solid Martella's Bennett. Second 751 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: round pick with Martelli's Bennett. Anthony Passano had a nice career. 752 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: He was a second round pick. Um Dalton Schultz. You 753 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: drafted him on day three. You drafted uh Ferguson on 754 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: day three. You got so so they know how to 755 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: find this particular player. So when I look at Dalton 756 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: Schultz and it's nothing personal against him at all, they 757 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: can find another Dalton Schultz and said I'm not that 758 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: is not me taking a shot at him, and just 759 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: in in today's NFL, you're gonna have to sit around 760 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: here and just say, hey, certain guys, um we can 761 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: save here. We know we gotta pay Digs. We're gonna 762 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: have to pay CD Lamb. We're gonna have to pay 763 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. You're gonna have to at some point in 764 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: time address your center position, Tyler Beiannis and what you're 765 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: doing right there. You're gonna have to renegotiate Dak Prescott. 766 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: So where do you find some savings here? Where do 767 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: you say we'll go a little bit less here and 768 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: try to get a player to match him, And tell 769 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: tell Loona well coach him up right there, tight endspot 770 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: Man and one of the best in London Welles and 771 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: in the way that he's coached these guys up. But 772 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: I just want to go back to what you were saying, Barry, 773 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: about how Brandon Cooks changes this offense and how valuable 774 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: the tight end can be. And also looking at the 775 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: draft at how talented this tight end draft could be 776 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: at twenty six. So this is a position for the Cowboys. 777 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: It's very interesting when you say, will Dalton, I don't 778 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: think he could come back here for three and a half, Nah, 779 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think. I don't think he 780 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: could come back here. And especially if the Cowboys going 781 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: to the draft and get a young tight end. And 782 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: again I go back to Mike McCarthy and his offense. 783 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: We know what he's going to demand from the tight 784 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: end position. Is he willing to give that up? With 785 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 1: Dalton shows because I think in the way you had 786 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: to knowing that he wasn't the best blocking tight end 787 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: you had in that room. McCarthy talked about it. We 788 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: want to run the football, we want to become a 789 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: team that's dominant in the trenches, and at the tight 790 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: end position, you're gonna need a guy who can capture 791 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: that edge, that can hold his own against defensive ends 792 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: out there. And from what we've seen from Dalton Schultz, 793 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: that's not you know, the priority of his game, that's 794 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: not the top of his game is blocking. So you 795 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: know he may not fit into this new McCarthy. You know, 796 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: type of offense, so I can see them letting them ride. Okay, 797 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: So so tell me this. If you're the player in 798 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: the agent, so the first wave and free agencies come through, 799 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,959 Speaker 1: you didn't get caught, how long do you wait until 800 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: you grab something? Yeah, in my opinion, you want to 801 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: get out there before the draft because once the draft 802 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: comes around, teams are gonna be filling up. Positions are 803 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: gonna be filling up everywhere, and teams are gonna be like, well, 804 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, we'll come back to you if somebody gets injured, 805 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: and you don't want to be waiting all offseason and 806 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: once camp comes around, somebody gets hurt and you get 807 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: thrown into the fire. You got to pick up that 808 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: whole new offense. You got it right before the season starts. 809 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: So to me, you want to at least be able 810 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: to get in there before ota starts, so you can 811 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: get a rapport with the quarterback, you can get a 812 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: rapport with the team, understand their offense, and before all 813 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: these spots get taken up by the draft. Man, that's 814 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: a pickle. Yeah, even what's now, that's a pickle. And 815 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about the respect for Dalton shows in 816 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: his game. Let's come on, now, he's He's not the 817 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: guy that just Daltins showts gonna be out of the league. 818 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: You know that's not gonna happen. Um. I just think 819 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: he put himselves in a very unique situation by not 820 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: taking the original deal that was off offered and having 821 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: the cap. This is this is one of those examples 822 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: where people hate the being having the tag placed on you. 823 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: This is this is the when we say bet on yourself. 824 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: He was he put that on himself, played under the tag, 825 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: and now he's without a team and it doesn't look 826 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: like other teams are interested in him. I go back 827 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: to what you were saying about the draft, man, it's 828 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: this a lot of talented tight end so places like uh, 829 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: the Chargers, you know that that we think just because 830 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: what if Kelly Moore has his his idea of a 831 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: tight end and that may not even be a possibility 832 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: for him. So look, it's just a unique situation to 833 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: be in. All right, right before we go, let's let's 834 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,720 Speaker 1: go around here and just just get our thoughts. Tyrant 835 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: Smith contract reworked very favorable, a lot of incentives in there. 836 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: I think I think it's a good, good decision because 837 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: if you look at it, he plays, he gets more 838 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: money as he plays. So if he can play all sixteen, 839 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: great d Max says, I can't believe they did this. 840 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 1: Another thing is like, like you said, man, it's incentive 841 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 1: last it's gonna be one of those. It was very 842 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: favorable for the Cowboys and you bring him back and 843 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: it's the Tyler Smith and Tyrant Smith show. So Tara 844 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: squad left side, all right, Donovan Wilson re signed safety. 845 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 1: I was I'm not gonna. I was surprised. I was surprised. 846 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: If you though, I think he's a thumper, an enforcer, 847 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: the type of guy that you want on your defense. 848 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: But I was surprised at that deal. I was very surprised. 849 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: But if you look at the contract, you break it down, 850 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: I think it was two years guaranteed, thirteen and a 851 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: half guaranteed. So it's solid. You bring that enforcer back 852 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: and you know you got a solid secondary dimensional guys 853 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: that played. He also has value for you on special teams. 854 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: But obviously Dan Quinn loves that guy, love the way 855 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: he competes. Vanderesh. That's another one I surprised me. I 856 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: thought he would have a bigger market than he had 857 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: out there. The Cowboys got him back on another friendly deal. 858 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: I think it's what five a year, you know, two 859 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: years eleven overall, So look, I think it's a It's 860 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: a great place to have him. You know, he's one 861 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: of those leaders of the defense, big tall guy in 862 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. So yeah, I like it. 863 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: Quarterback Cooper Rush surprised he got his deal. Surprise that 864 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,760 Speaker 1: he stayed. I thought he would have more of a market, 865 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: especially with the way that the quarterbacks were dropping all right, 866 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 1: and then of course they signed O our guy, A C. C. J. Goodwin. 867 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 1: He's back, so uh And the guy didn't talk about 868 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: um was Ezekiel Elliott. And to me, I think it's 869 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: real simple. We all on the show get it. Yeah, 870 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,439 Speaker 1: he had a great run when he was here, great run, 871 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: but it just ended, and I wish him well. But 872 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: I think they had to do what they had to do. 873 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: We spoke about on the show. Yeah, when you see guy, 874 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean I was here when you know, they let 875 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: you know the Marcus ware walk and then if the 876 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: guy's like that, he known to walk somewhere else. I mean, 877 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: anybody could get Yeah, Terrence snowman. I mean, it happens, man, 878 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm sure he'll bounce back and land 879 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: on his feet somewhere and you know, hopefully continue to 880 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: have a positive impact on another team. And that's the 881 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: sucky part about business, right there's a personal decision ends 882 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: up having to be a business decision. You know how 883 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: much the front office and the family loves Ezekiel Elliott 884 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: and and nothing but respect to him and everything that 885 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 1: he's done. All right, that is the players, lous heck Ma, Harrison, 886 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: Bury Church, I knew, we scrugs. Danny mcreill join us 887 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: next week for Chris Beam and everybody makes it happen 888 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: right here. Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio appreciate your talking 889 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: next Monday. 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