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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to say we're protection of I Heart

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Speaker 1: radio and stuff media. I'm Anneries and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum.

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Speaker 1: And today we're talking about boiled peanuts. Uh huh. And

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Speaker 1: I like how some people might be not entirely sure

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Speaker 1: what that is. Yep. Yeah, it's a very Southern thing, um,

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Speaker 1: here in the United States in these are modern times. Um.

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Speaker 1: I have heard that other places around the world that

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Speaker 1: produce a lot of peanuts, perhaps China, um has a

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Speaker 1: regional variation on this, but yeah, here in America, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty much just the South and a very specific little

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Speaker 1: corner of the South. Yes, And I like how pretty

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Speaker 1: much everyone in the South has their boiled peanut, dude,

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Speaker 1: and it's usually somebody on the side of the road.

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Speaker 1: And I'm still not sure that's legal. I have many

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Speaker 1: questions about people who just sell stuff from tents or

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Speaker 1: their truck on the side of the road. But you

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Speaker 1: go there, think it very states. I'm not sure. I'm

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Speaker 1: not honestly sure about Georgia. But anyway, I've been meaning

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Speaker 1: to look into it for a long time. I'm just

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Speaker 1: new new research topic. Yes, exactly. My My mom definitely

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Speaker 1: has a guy she like knows his kids this whole thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And he's one of those guys that's just on the

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Speaker 1: side of the road, but he's always there. Um. And

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Speaker 1: you can find you can find Bold peanuts all over

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Speaker 1: with the place here. You can find him in gas stations,

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Speaker 1: you find him in cans or bags that grocery stores

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Speaker 1: are on, fancy menus, and restaurants everything in between. Build

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Speaker 1: peanuts everywhere. This year, my favorite dish at Atlanta Food

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Speaker 1: and Wine was an Indian dish but with the Southern flair,

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Speaker 1: and uh, it had Bold peanuts in it. And I'm

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Speaker 1: so bummed because we were leaving for Hawaii, like like

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Speaker 1: next night. Yeah, within a twenty four hour period. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I just I had all macuzies and I had

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Speaker 1: all my other stuff that I collected and I just

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Speaker 1: don't that on the floor and said I'll handle this

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Speaker 1: when I got back. And I still have not dealt

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Speaker 1: with it. Oh so you don't know who that dishes from.

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Speaker 1: And the recipe is in there too. I could make it, dude, Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, well handle that for no other reason

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Speaker 1: than the boiled peanuts. Yes, I've never had anything quite

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Speaker 1: like that. It was amazing I've heard it referred to

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Speaker 1: as one of the caviars of the South, because I've

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Speaker 1: also heard black eyed peas described as caviar at the South.

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Speaker 1: So it's anything that looks kind of like caviar as

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Speaker 1: the caviar. It's round, and people like it exactly cool. Um.

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Speaker 1: I had never eaten boiled peanuts until about three or

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Speaker 1: four years ago. It was when we moved into this

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Speaker 1: office here in Pont City Market and there's there's a

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Speaker 1: bar down the street that serves boiled peanuts, and either

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Speaker 1: co workers or maybe a guy that I was dating

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Speaker 1: at the time, Uh yeah, I bought them and kept

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Speaker 1: buying them, and eventually I was like, Okay, let me

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Speaker 1: try one of those, because I don't think i'd even

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Speaker 1: heard of them really until I moved to Atlanta, Like

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Speaker 1: if we had them in Central Florida, I did not

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Speaker 1: notice them for sale. But one of the first things

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Speaker 1: that I noticed for sale on the side of the

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Speaker 1: road when I moved to Atlanta was a big block

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Speaker 1: letter sign, like written on plywood for boiled p nuts,

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Speaker 1: like the letter P and a dash and then the

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Speaker 1: word nuts. And I was like, that sounds gross. I

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Speaker 1: don't understand this. Whole southern thing. What the heck they

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Speaker 1: have grits? I don't get it, Like I was very

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Speaker 1: confused about a number of culinary things for a number

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Speaker 1: of years. But um, but I love them now, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah they're delicious. Yeah yeah they are. I for a

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Speaker 1: long time I had um internalized dislike of anything that

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Speaker 1: was Southern. So when I was a kid, I refused

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Speaker 1: to eat them, really didn't want to be um. And

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Speaker 1: I loved him too, So it is sad like looking

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Speaker 1: back before. It's okay, it's okay. Both the nuts are good.

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Speaker 1: But for anyone who is like, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: It brings us to our question. Yes, boiled peanuts, what

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Speaker 1: are they? Well? Boiled peanuts are a snack food that

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Speaker 1: consists of fresh peanuts that are not dried or roasted,

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Speaker 1: but rather boiled in their shells, with us these things

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Speaker 1: added to the cooking liquid. Where fresh peanuts are not available,

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Speaker 1: boiled peanuts may be made from raw peanuts, which are

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Speaker 1: in shell, peanuts that have been dried a bit for

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Speaker 1: shelf stability, and then in order to use them, you

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Speaker 1: soak them overnight to reconstitute like the way that you

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Speaker 1: would with dried beans. Um prior to the boiling that

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Speaker 1: seasoning you can do all sorts of things, but but

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Speaker 1: the typical mix is super salty, like a cup of

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Speaker 1: salt per gallon of water. Oh so salty. Um gets

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Speaker 1: so tasty. Um. On top of that, Cajun style seasoning

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Speaker 1: cayenne and peprika powder, maybe some oregano in time, Um,

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Speaker 1: water to add a sort of richness or like tassa

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Speaker 1: hamhawk in there. Um. I am convinced that the bar

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Speaker 1: near the office boils their peanuts in their hot dog water.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that? Because it tastes like their

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Speaker 1: hot dogs? Well, okay, that makes sense I know for purists,

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Speaker 1: like if you're looking for the food controversy of the episode,

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Speaker 1: it's only solved. Oh really, yes, that is it. But

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Speaker 1: I like some Cajun I like some spice in there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like a nice kick to it. And

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Speaker 1: some people do like Dr Pepper, Dr Pepper Coca cola

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Speaker 1: for a real Southern experience that is yeah. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: usually not served with anything. They're usually just served like

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Speaker 1: like plane yeah yeah, yeah, um, but yeah yeah, so

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Speaker 1: so you boil them for like three hours in this

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Speaker 1: cooking liquid and yeah, they're served in their shells hot

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Speaker 1: plane like like a lot of Southern dishes are like

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Speaker 1: you necessarily put a bunch of hot sauce on it.

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Speaker 1: But I've never seen anyone put anything on their boiled peanuts.

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Speaker 1: I think that would be blasphemy. I think it would

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Speaker 1: be um. Yeah, And and the shells are are like

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Speaker 1: really really easily with your fingers, and the kernels inside

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Speaker 1: like a little bit of cooking liquid in the shell,

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Speaker 1: sort of like a little oyster shooter. Yeah. Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's another not controversy, but like how do

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Speaker 1: you eat boiled peanuts, because some people like to break them,

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Speaker 1: and some people like priam open at the shell, like

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Speaker 1: you bite into it and then the shell opens naturally. People, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I have I've heard that. I don't think I've personally

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Speaker 1: witnessed it. I do it if the shell is really soft, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, if it's like you bite into it. It's

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Speaker 1: clear that it's not gonna cras, it's not gonna push uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and so right. So that so, speaking of the

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Speaker 1: texture can range depending on the peanut, you know, fresh

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Speaker 1: little bit mushy. Uh And yeah that the flavor will

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Speaker 1: depend on that seasoning mix. But they're they're salty and

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Speaker 1: a cold drink. It's like, well why not have one more?

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Speaker 1: And they're served in baskets of like twenty billions, So yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's usually a hardy portion. Um. And yeah, I do

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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty traditional as the mushy kind. And

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Speaker 1: that's I mean, I have got no problem with eating

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Speaker 1: a lot of mushy. I've had them both ways, but

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Speaker 1: the first time I had him, they were the mushy sides,

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Speaker 1: So I think it's kind of the Yeah, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this is what it is? What is this other thing? Yes?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing food that I'm recently introduced to.

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Speaker 1: I have an opinion about you now, and no one

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Speaker 1: was surprised. Um. Speaking of peanuts, we did cover a

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Speaker 1: bit about peanuts in general in our Peanut Butter episode

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Speaker 1: called the Spread of Peanut Butter. So what we did

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Speaker 1: there from from June, but in brief because I just

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Speaker 1: like talking about it. It is true, yes, that the

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Speaker 1: peanut is neither a pean or a nut, though it

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Speaker 1: is a lot closer two peas than nuts. Botanically speaking,

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Speaker 1: it's in the same family as peas are, and peanuts

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Speaker 1: grow underground. The plant looks like a small shrub. It

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Speaker 1: grows these delicate, wee little yellow flowers that look at

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Speaker 1: tiny bit like orchids, which weather and then instead of

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Speaker 1: a peanut, a woody shell in case in one or

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Speaker 1: more kernels. And these are the plant seeds, and yes,

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Speaker 1: they happen to also be pretty tasty, that's cool. A

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Speaker 1: few varieties of peanuts are grown for different purposes. Of

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Speaker 1: Valencia peanuts, which usually have at least three kernels per shell,

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Speaker 1: each with a red skin and are a little bit

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Speaker 1: more sweet than some other varieties, are particularly popular for boiling,

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Speaker 1: though Virginia peanuts are also a popular boiled variety because

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Speaker 1: you kind of get more for your buck, and i'd

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Speaker 1: like roasted peanuts or peanut butter. Boiled peanuts are not

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Speaker 1: shelf stable. They're they're a fresh product. Um. Fresh peanuts

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Speaker 1: treated more gently than peanuts for processing. Crops are often

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Speaker 1: harvested starting a little bit earlier than other peanuts, as

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Speaker 1: soon as late June, and for this reason, fresh peanuts

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Speaker 1: are sometimes referred to as green peanuts, although they are

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Speaker 1: not green in color, of course, of course, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Nutrition wise. You know, it's peanuts that have a bunch

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Speaker 1: of salt added UM, so they're they're relatively high and fat,

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Speaker 1: but also high in protein UM and yes, hi high

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Speaker 1: in salt. If you eat a bunch of them and

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Speaker 1: you're trying to watch your sodium, that's probably not what

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Speaker 1: you actually want to have just done. No, no, no

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Speaker 1: peanuts numbers. The US is actually not the largest producer

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Speaker 1: of peanuts. That would be China and India UM. In

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Speaker 1: the US, though Georgia is the largest producer. Over of

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Speaker 1: America's peanuts come from George's Peanut Built in US peanut

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Speaker 1: farmers churned out over six point one billion pounds of peanuts,

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Speaker 1: and not one but two US presidents were peanut farmers UM,

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Speaker 1: which out of forty five. You know, I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty impressive, Thomas Jefferson and Jimmy Carter. Yeah. Because fresh

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Speaker 1: peanuts are more finicky than processed peanuts, fewer farmers do

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Speaker 1: produce them. UM. As of this year, a marketing specialist

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Speaker 1: with the South Carolina Department of Agriculture estimated that of

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Speaker 1: the five twenty two peanut growers in the state, only

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Speaker 1: like a dozen or so we're selling green peanuts. H okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I suppose world peanuts are a summertime snack. I

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Speaker 1: never would have thought that personally, but that's what I read. Um.

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Speaker 1: And I suppose also that, yes, they are a Southern thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well they're harvested fresh in the summer, though that you

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Speaker 1: can write to make them year around, from dried peanuts,

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Speaker 1: from raw dried peanuts. They are the state snack of

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Speaker 1: South Carolina, thus named in two thousand and six, I

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Speaker 1: gotta have your state snack. Yeah. Yeah, and uh, we

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Speaker 1: I just I'm thinking that he was like green peanuts,

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Speaker 1: they're green like spinach, Pop Papa. I don't know, it

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Speaker 1: could be anyway. It could be. This was happening in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the Civil rights movement, Rosa Park's desegregation,

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Speaker 1: the Bethel Baptist Church bombing, all of this was happening.

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Speaker 1: A Senator from New York, Kenneth Keating, took the boiled

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Speaker 1: peanut legislation and added onto it all of the Eisenhower

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Speaker 1: administration's civil rights programs in order to bring a civil

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Speaker 1: rights debate to the floor. One Southern legislators had long prevented.

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Speaker 1: Yeah this peanut, yes, oh yes, it was significant to

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Speaker 1: all the Southern states that we're doing the blocking. It

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Speaker 1: was called the Keating Goober Rights Amendment, and Southern legislators

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Speaker 1: railed against it. They hated it. They tried to spin

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Speaker 1: it so it looked like they were the compassionate ones

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Speaker 1: for black farmers of peanuts as well as the white

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Speaker 1: ones um. They also tried to turn the focus to

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Speaker 1: how delicious the boiled peanut was. You wouldn't hurt the

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Speaker 1: boiled peanuts. One senator had fifty pounds delivered to the Capitol,

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Speaker 1: but it backfired. Non Southern senators did not like them,

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Speaker 1: did not like them. They found them mushy and bland.

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Speaker 1: For his part, Senator Keating said he found them fine,

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Speaker 1: but that quote certain gourmets have in fact come to

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Speaker 1: me with a plea that I do everything in my

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Speaker 1: power to remove the boiled peanut from the culinary scene. Yep,

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Speaker 1: the peanut bill did make it to the floor. Civil

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Speaker 1: rights were discussed, but Keating withdrew it. After a day

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Speaker 1: long filibuster, peanuts were granted another two year exemption. Boiled

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Speaker 1: peanuts became inextricably linked to civil rights. The exemption sort

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Speaker 1: of became shorthand for the government's in action on the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. For example, in nineteen six, article in the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Times headline is goober time again in Congress

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Speaker 1: came with this bit. When the measure moved to the

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Speaker 1: floor to debate, one congressman demanded to know whether Matthews

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Speaker 1: had brought samples, while another said for the record that

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Speaker 1: he would vote for the measure only on the condition

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Speaker 1: that he didn't have to taste any of the damned things.

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Speaker 1: Political humorous Art buck Wald wrote that same year quote,

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Speaker 1: with this boiled peanut bill out of the way, Congress

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Speaker 1: is now free to discuss other vital subjects of interest

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Speaker 1: to the nations, such as whether seat belt should be

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Speaker 1: required in automobiles and whether the flying of kites should

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Speaker 1: be allowed in Washington, d C. I didn't look into

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Speaker 1: the kite thing but for the record, seat belts were

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Speaker 1: not required in cars in the United States until nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty eight, so as of nineteen sixty three, when when

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Speaker 1: that article came out, it was considered a very silly

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Speaker 1: thing to legislate by a lot of by a lot

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Speaker 1: of states and and national government officials. And then I

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Speaker 1: didn't look into the kite thing either, but I saw

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Speaker 1: it in multiple articles around this, so it must have

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Speaker 1: been a thing. Well, there you go, there you go,

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, you were wild. Yes, the Civil Rights

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Speaker 1: Act passed in nineteen sixty four, and the next year

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Speaker 1: the boiled peanut exemption became permanent. I am glad for

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Speaker 1: the record that both of those things managed to work

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Speaker 1: themselves out. I am as well, perhaps greater emphasis on

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Speaker 1: one than the other, although I do love a boiled peanut. Um.

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Speaker 1: Skipping ahead to today, American peanut farmers are having kind

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Speaker 1: of a rough time of it. As um summers have

484
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Speaker 1: become hotter and drier, and large damaging hurricanes more frequent,

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Speaker 1: it has been increasingly difficult to get a good solid

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Speaker 1: crop um. The current administration's trade wars and high tariffs

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Speaker 1: have not helped either. Average peanut prices are as of

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Speaker 1: twenty en the lowest that they have been in modern history.

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Speaker 1: But uh, boiled peanuts are enjoying something of a cultural

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Speaker 1: comeback along with the or first don't call it a

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Speaker 1: come back, I'm not sure. Like it's along along with

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Speaker 1: that larger trend of Southern cuisine across America and beyond.

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Speaker 1: Um very briefly uh like okay, so soul food cookbooks

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Speaker 1: were the new it thing around two thousand seven. Like

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Speaker 1: McDonald's launched its Southern Chicken Sandwich in two thousand eight,

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Speaker 1: which is like a fried chicken sandwich with a pickle

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Speaker 1: and some in Mayo. Uh bon up a tea magazine

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Speaker 1: named Southern v Cuisine to Watch in two thousand nine,

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Speaker 1: and then again. And in the midst of all this,

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Speaker 1: you've got big name chefs and smaller chefs in various

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Speaker 1: regions around the States, promoting these down home Southern dishes

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Speaker 1: as delicacies and fusing them into other cuisines that were

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Speaker 1: perhaps more familiar to the country at large. Um like

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Speaker 1: Hugh accon Um published his Turn in the South Southern

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Speaker 1: Flavors Reinvented for Your Kitchen in and it included a

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Speaker 1: recipe for boiled peanut hemus. I have seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of boiled peanut humus. Absolutely, yeah, tasty stuff. Yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope that. I had no idea. Um, I just assume,

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Speaker 1: like I knew it was a Southern thing, but I

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Speaker 1: assume when people try them they'll be like, oh these

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Speaker 1: are good. Yeah this I'm not so sure. So I'd

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Speaker 1: love to hear from people outside of those South Well.

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Speaker 1: I think it's one of those texture expectations, like if

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Speaker 1: you hear peanut and you think crunchy, and then you

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Speaker 1: have the soft thing, You're like, what what is happening?

516
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Speaker 1: So you have to kind of divorce the two in

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Speaker 1: your mind. You're like, this is not going to be

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Speaker 1: like a roasted peanut. This is a separate thing and

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Speaker 1: that's okay. Yeah. My x where friend was from Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: and we would always have this funny misunderstanding because we

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Speaker 1: would go to baseball games every now and then, but

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Speaker 1: not enough to like solve this thing. But he would

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Speaker 1: always say I'm gonna go get peanuts, and I would

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Speaker 1: always think he's gonna get boiled peanuts and he would

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Speaker 1: come back with that bag of like try like what

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Speaker 1: is this? What is this? Do they sell boiled peanuts

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Speaker 1: at local UM A lot of baseball stadiums, yes, UM

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Speaker 1: and a lot of sporting events. But I I actually

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Speaker 1: have never done that. I usually don't get snacks of stadiums,

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Speaker 1: so I've never looked. But I just assumed when he

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Speaker 1: said peanuts. Yeah, what other kind of peanuts? What do

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Speaker 1: you mean? Weird wisconsinite? They were fine, They were fine.

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Speaker 1: They I feel like they boiled peanuts dry your mouth out.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like those kind in the bag are

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Speaker 1: worse because the shell is so dry and salty. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's just in my head. I don't know, but I

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Speaker 1: was always so thirsty after eating them. Yeah, well they

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Speaker 1: it's quite salty. You're probably out in the heat in

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Speaker 1: the sun, yes, the whole thing. You might be having

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Speaker 1: a beer as well. It's also not hydrating. Making many mistakes, yes,

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Speaker 1: but uh that's about all that we have to say

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Speaker 1: about the boiled peanut today. But it brings us to

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Speaker 1: listener Man baseball game obviously clearly. Ashley wrote a few

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Speaker 1: years back, my husband and I were stationed in Okanawa, Japan,

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Speaker 1: while he was serving in the US Air Force. While

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Speaker 1: he didn't deploy during this time, we were stationed in

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Speaker 1: a fairly dangerous area due to the typhoons. In our

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Speaker 1: three years there, we never experienced too bad of a typhoon,

549
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Speaker 1: but every typhoon morning we went about the same tradition.

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Speaker 1: We would stock up on movies, crafts, games and friends,

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Speaker 1: and of course a pile of m R e S

552
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: before we were locked down to our houses. Before every lockdown,

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Speaker 1: we would visit the shop at Military Code for Grocery

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Speaker 1: store to grab some supplemental supplies along with snacks and

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00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: copious amounts of alcohol. Once the typhoon was underway, the

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Speaker 1: fun started. We would have competitions with the stack of

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Speaker 1: m R e S and supplemental items that resulted in

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Speaker 1: a huge feast where us and a few of our

559
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 1: guests would battle it out chop style to see who

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Speaker 1: could create the best dish from the random items selected

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Speaker 1: for the perfect amount of chaos and the m R

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Speaker 1: E they blindly drew from a box. The rules were simple.

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Speaker 1: Each dish must contain either an appetizer or dessert, a

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Speaker 1: main dish, and a mixed drink, usually involving alcohol. The

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Speaker 1: winner was selected via a voting system and the winner

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Speaker 1: received voting rights and a shot from our expensive bottle

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Speaker 1: of hausake. Thank you for reminding me of some great

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00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: memories and detailing some great history of the ps we

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Speaker 1: all want. Pizza Emery and chili mac is the best,

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00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: Murray maybe one day pizza m Yeah. I would love

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Speaker 1: to know more about some of these creations that resulted

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Speaker 1: from from this goodness. It sounds, it sounds like wild times.

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Speaker 1: It does. Indeed, Rodrigo wrote, I was just listening to

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Speaker 1: your pizza episode, and by coincidence, I just had a

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Speaker 1: new let's call it pizza experience yesterday that you might enjoy.

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Speaker 1: But before I get to that, here's a not so

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Speaker 1: brief comment about something else in the episode. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: green peas as being a biler topping in Brazil. This

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Speaker 1: is the second time I heard this factlet the first

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Speaker 1: one might have been stuff you should know, and I

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Speaker 1: find it befuddling. As a Brazilian who's eaten lots of

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Speaker 1: pizzas from all over the place, I've never seen green

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Speaker 1: peas anywhere. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. If there's

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Speaker 1: one thing that sets Brazil apart is that we put

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Speaker 1: everything on pizza. So I'm sure there are green peas somewhere,

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Speaker 1: or maybe there are favored in some very specific region. However,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely not a national thing. Not only had I

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Speaker 1: never seen green peas on pizza, I've never even seen

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Speaker 1: it discussed as a preferred topping. That said, here are

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Speaker 1: some of our most bizarre combinations we have. Most of

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Speaker 1: these come from South Brazil, where I come from, and

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Speaker 1: other regions will have different stuff. As I said, we

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Speaker 1: put everything on pizza, chicken hearts, stroke enough California, which

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00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: is all kinds of fruits mixed in, sometimes including figs, grapes,

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Speaker 1: apple and pineapple, and melted chocolate with strawberries. Okay, enough

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Speaker 1: about Brazil. As I listened to this, I'm traveling in

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Speaker 1: Argentina and yesterday, in between wine tasting, I try a

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Speaker 1: local dish matambra a la pizza. Matambra is a very

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Speaker 1: thin beef cut taken from the outer layer of the ribs,

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Speaker 1: right beneath the skin. I don't think there's an equivalent

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Speaker 1: cut in the US. While a cut of meat doesn't

602
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: sound like a weird pizza topping, that's the catch. It's

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Speaker 1: not a topping. What the Argentinians do is replace the

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Speaker 1: pie with the matambra, so it's just a regular mazzarella pizza,

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Speaker 1: but built on top of a layer of meat instead

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Speaker 1: of bread. I gotta say it was quite delicious. You

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00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: should try it. Oh man, that is the most Argentinians

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Speaker 1: thing I've ever heard of. I love it. That's so fun,

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00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: how beautiful? Oh gosh. Also, yeah, I don't think I've

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Speaker 1: ever had a kind of beef quite like that before,

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Speaker 1: and now I really really want to try it. That

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Speaker 1: sounds good. That sounds good. This sent me down a

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Speaker 1: whole like whirlwind of what is pizza again? Oh? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Bread involved? Is it? Is it? Pizza? I guess you

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Speaker 1: feel it in your heart? You do? You do? Pizza

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Speaker 1: is a feeling. And I hope I said, I hope

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Speaker 1: I'm saying with tom bra correctly. Um. Anyway, we try ours,

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