1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Through it, all Otani has been incredibly unflappable, in part 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: perhaps because he knows he's did nothing wrong. Welcome everyone 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: to this week's edition of Fair Territory, the Thursday edition, 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: the live edition, the one that is co hosted by 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: the great Alana Rizzo. Alana, It's April eleventh, and I 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: can't believe this. We have literally a ton to talk about. Ken. 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: It seems like we've already been into about three months 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: of the season, and you're absolutely right, So let's get 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: right to it. But before we get to the lead, 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: we want to make sure you guys at home get 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: your questions in for Ken on grill and Ken. But Ken, 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: let's get right to it. Let's talk about an update 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: that you have on the situation regarding show Hey Otani 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: and more in particular his interpreter Epe Misuhara. 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Well, Alana. A press conference has been called for one 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: thirty Eastern by federal prosecutors at which they are going 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: to announce significant development in a criminal investigation that also 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: carries great significance. They have not said exactly who this 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: is revolving around, but it is understood that this is 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: going to be a news conference regarding it a Misuhara, 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: the interpreter for Shohei Otani, and as the New York 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: Times reported last night, Musahara has been in negotiations with 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: federal officials regarding a guilty plea in this case, regarding 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: what is expected to be him admitting to stealing money 25 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: from Shohei Otani. Now, this, of course is a major 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: development in a lot of ways, but it's really significant 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: in a sense that if indeed Misshara admits to stealing 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: the money from Otani, and the New York Times report 29 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: said it could be significantly and more than four and 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: a half million. If that's the case, it would lend 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: credence to Otani's account that he knew nothing about what 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: was going on with his accounts. And also, according to 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: the New York Times report last night, in essence, the 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: federal government believes that it has evidence that the Misuhara 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: excuse me, change the setting accounts or settings on Otani's accounts, 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: change the settings on his accounts so that Otani could 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: not receive confirmations or information about what was going on 38 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: with those accounts. That would be stunning, but this would 39 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: not be the first athlete to be duped out of 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: money to lose a lot of money. But we have 41 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: again significant developments coming in this case later today. 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: And Kenny, I think it's fair to say that the 43 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: fact that he is willing to negotiate to plead guilty 44 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: stands to reason that if he were to go and 45 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: say not guilty and then was found guilty, the sentence 46 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: and the penalty could be a lot more stiff. Is 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: that true in saying that? And also we must understand 48 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: that Apai Mizuhara was more than just a quote unquote 49 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: translator interpreter. These guys do a lot more than just 50 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: translate and serve as a liaison between the team and 51 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: the fan base and the media regarding language. I would 52 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: imagine that he did have access to those accounts, and 53 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: he did change the settings so shohe wouldn't get any 54 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: alerts or notifications. 55 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: Well, Anna, it certainly has become obvious in recent weeks 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: that Mitsuhara played a far more significant role in Otani's 57 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: life than simply interpreting and translating. And you're right, we 58 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: know this in any case of this nature, that if 59 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: you plead guilty and you cooperate with the officials that 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: are investigating you, you generally get a more lenient sentence. Now, 61 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: if it is found that Misuhara stole a great amount 62 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: of money. Four and a half million alone is a 63 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: great amount of money, but even beyond that, then I 64 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: would imagine the sentence will be only so lenient. And 65 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna find out more. Of course, as this goes on. 66 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: One thing that is stunning to me about this whole matter. 67 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: Through it all, Otani has been incredibly unflappable, in part 68 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: perhaps because he knows he did nothing wrong. Again, we 69 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what's going on here, but he has 70 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: acted like he's done nothing wrong. He has said he 71 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: did nothing wrong, he has not been accused of doing 72 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: anything wrong. And in the last week or so, the 73 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: last seven games, he has been on absolute fire at 74 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: the plate, being the Sho Heo Tani of old. You 75 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: see the numbers right there, four thirty three batting, four 76 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: sixty nine on base, nine sixty seven slug, five doubles, 77 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: one triple and three homers. That's just in the last 78 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: seven games. So obviously Otani has been unaffected by this. 79 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: And again at that news conference one thirty eastern today, 80 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: we're going to find out more just about what Ibe 81 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: Muzuhara might be admitting to what he is being charged 82 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: with and where this case exactly is going. 83 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: Ken, those numbers only don't look like somebody that's worried 84 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: about some off field stuff other than perhaps just the 85 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: betrayal of a good friend and a confident Moving on 86 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: from the sho Heio Tani and Epei Mizuhara story, is 87 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: the story that everybody was talking about yesterday, Ken, as 88 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: far as the big anticipated debut of number one prospect 89 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: Jackson Holiday to the Baltimore Orioles, to who much is given? Ken, 90 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: much is expected? What did you think? 91 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: Well, he didn't have much of a debut in terms 92 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: of accomplishments on the field. He had the one RBI 93 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: on the ground. Out in the field, there was one 94 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: play that kind of got away from the pop up 95 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: over second base, not an easy play. But what stood 96 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: out to me on this night, this momentous night for 97 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: the Orioles in which Jackson Holiday made his major league 98 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: debut at age twenty, was that some of their other 99 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: number one picks from recent years, Colton Kowser and specifically 100 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: Jordan Westburg, they were even bigger heroes. Westburg had the 101 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: three run Homer. That was the go ahead shot in 102 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: this game. And what is so remarkab about the Orioles 103 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: right now is that, Yeah, Jackson Holiday's coming to join 104 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Gunner Henderson and Atlie Rushman. But it's not just those 105 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: three guys. It's Westburg, it's Cowser, and there are more coming. 106 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: I want to look at the drafts here in recent 107 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: years for the Orioles. Jackson Holliday, he was a first 108 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: overall pick, Colton cows Are fifth overall, Connor Norby, he's 109 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: a triple A going crazy, forty first overall, second rounder 110 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Heston Kirstad another guy at triple A, second overall, 111 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: Westburg thirtieth, Kobe Mayo, Yes, he's a triple A two 112 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: tearing it up, fourth rounder, one hundred and third overall. 113 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: And then in nineteen the amazing draft of Rushman and 114 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: Henderson won one for Rushman he was the first pick, 115 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: Gunner Henderson second round, forty second overall. Kyle Stowers was 116 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: a competitive balance pick seventy first overall. So those guys, 117 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: the ones at triple A are knocking at the door, 118 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: and a lot of last I looked, there are only 119 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: nine positions on the field. Yeah, there's no where that 120 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: could possibly play all these guys. 121 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're looking for playing time for all of these guys. 122 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: And by the way, the Norfolk Tides, even without Jackson Holiday, 123 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: could probably beat the Oakland Athletics right now. That's how 124 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: deep their farm system is as far as the Orioles 125 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: are concerned. Let's switch gears now, though, to another set 126 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: of birds that aren't hitting Kenny, the Saint Louis Cardinals. 127 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: And if you look at the numbers between Nolan Arenado 128 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: and Paul Goldschmidt, it seems like the Cards go as 129 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: those two go. 130 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: No question they are significant players for Saint Louis, and 131 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: this is a big year for Saint Louis coming off 132 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: that incredibly disappointing twenty twenty three season, and the one 133 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: that is more alarming to me, if it's even possible 134 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: to be alarmed with the season not even one tenth complete, 135 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: would be gold Schmidt. He's thirty six years old. He 136 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: had a rough spring and now it's carried into the 137 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: season and it's surprising to me to see him with 138 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: a sub six hundred opiates at any stretch of the season. 139 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: But this is where he is right now. Aeronaudo's been 140 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: a little bit better, not much, but as you said, 141 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: a lot of these two guys are pivotal to where 142 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals want to go. And with gold Schmidt there's 143 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: an added layer as well. This is his free agent 144 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: ear and if you recall, the Cardinals and gold Schmidt 145 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: put off talks on a contract extension, kind of wanting 146 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: to wait and see how this went well. So far, 147 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: at least, it's not going all that well. And if 148 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: you take a look at their numbers here this is 149 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: gold Schmidt and Arnado. Gold Schmidt one eighty two batting average, 150 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: two ninety four on base incredibly low, two fifty slug 151 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: that's incredibly low too. Arnatto again a little bit better. 152 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Two forty five to sixty eight, three h two that's 153 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: his slash line. Golchman has the one homer, it's not 154 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: noted there on the graphic. Arnatto none. He's got a 155 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: few doubles, but that's it. So these guys, because they 156 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: are the anchors of a relatively young lineup, they need 157 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: to get it going. And again, if the Cardinals are 158 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: going to be the team that they envisioned themselves, it 159 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: can't happen without Paul Goldschman and Noan Arnado playing huge roles. 160 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: Arnatto has driven in five Paul Goldschmith has driven in 161 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: just one more six RBIs so far on this young season, 162 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: and Ken, it seems like the fans at Bush Stadium 163 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: at least are recognizing that this might not be a 164 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: competitive team this season. What are you noticing about the crowds? 165 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: Well, they had a low crowd the other night, one 166 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: of their lowest in recent memory, and it's early in 167 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: the season, whether it's not always great. You see the 168 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: tweet there from Jeff Jones, he's one of the beat writers. 169 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Announced the attendance for Sonny Gray's Cardinal's debut thirty nine 170 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two, smaller than any crowd last season, 171 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: fourth smallest in the history of the newest Bush Stadium, 172 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: excluding of course the pandemic heres. That's a little bit disturbing, 173 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: but it's only April. The team plays better, they'll draw. 174 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: That's a great baseball town, but there is in that city, 175 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: a city that is incredibly loyal to that team. There 176 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: is an undercurrent and kind of a loud undercurrent of frustration. 177 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: I put it that way, and there has been some 178 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: vocal outlets or vocal expressions of that frustration. John Mozela 179 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: heard it at their fan fest. He's their president of 180 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: baseball operations. So again, this is a huge year for 181 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: them and a situation where once again an outfielder that 182 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: they trade, Tyler O'Neal, and he's going off for his 183 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: new team. Randy Rosa, Aina, Tommy fan. The list goes 184 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: on and on of former Cardinals outfielders who have done 185 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: well elsewhere, and here's Tyler O'Neill performing so far at 186 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: a high level. Again, it's really early. I can't stress 187 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: that enough, but there are some signs here that make 188 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: you think this could be a little bit troubling. 189 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler O'Neill going off for the Boston Red Sox. 190 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: Of course, he got into it a little bit with 191 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: Oliver Marmole, the manager of the Saint Louis Cardinals. Perhaps 192 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: a change of scenery was exactly what he need. Tommy 193 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: fam is sitting on the couch right now, ken Perhaps 194 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: he could. 195 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: He's been waiting for a job, and who knows. We'll see. 196 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: With some of these teams off to less than stellar starts, 197 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: some of them suffering major injuries, maybe he'll be employed soon. Yeah. 198 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: Brandon Belt and Joey Votto are also like, hey, pick me, 199 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: pick me. All right, let's move on now from the 200 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: lead to Grill and Ken. We want you to get 201 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: your questions in for Ken Rosenthal, and we're actually gonna 202 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: start with this one, which makes me laugh because I 203 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: was like, I have no shot in the world of 204 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: competing with Ken Rosenthal on this question. So I ask you, 205 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 2: who is the most famous baseball and non baseball phone 206 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: number you have on your phone. 207 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: Baseball phone number. I don't want to reveal which players 208 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm in contact with necessarily, so I'll go with Nolan Ryan. 209 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan's in there. I don't know that I've spoken 210 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: to him more than once or twice in my life, 211 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: but he is in there non baseball player. It's a 212 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: pretty thin list. In fact, it's a really thin list, 213 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: since this is all I do. But I did have 214 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: the opportunity to speak to Brad Paisley for a story 215 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: I was working on earlier about the Dodgers, and Brad 216 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: Paisley would be my number one go ahead, a out 217 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: of your shaking hand of me. 218 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: Dang it, you took mine because I was gonna say, 219 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: my most famous baseball one was Ken Rosenthal, and then 220 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: my best non famous baseball one is actually I have 221 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: two Brad Paisley, who's a massive Dodgers fan, and you 222 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: did a great article about him and in The Athletic 223 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: about how the Tyler Glasnow whole situation down. My most 224 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: famous non baseball one is Eric stone Street, the actor 225 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: who's also a Dodger fan but is a tremendous actor, 226 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: was on Modern Family. He is Cam on Modern Family. 227 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: I will say this, however, just because I have Eric 228 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: stone Street's number does not mean he ever texts me 229 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: back or responds to my request to have him on 230 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: the program. So just because you have someone's number in 231 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: your phone does not mean they have the same reciprocity 232 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: when it comes to wanting to talk to you all. Right, 233 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: time now for our more grill and Ken, if we 234 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: have some questions here, If not, we can move on 235 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: to dude and dork and we can get some questions 236 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 2: in in just a moment. So let's move on to 237 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: dude and dork until we can get some questions. And 238 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: I ask you this, Ken Rosenthal, who is your dude 239 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: of the week. 240 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: My dude of the week I'm gonna go with Mike Trout. 241 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: And Mike Trout is off to a great start, tied 242 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: with Tyler O'Neill for the major league lead with six homers. 243 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: And this is a season that he pointed to as 244 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: a very big seas for him from an individual standpoint. 245 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: He came into this saying, I've got to re establish myself. 246 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: I interviewed him for Fox for a feature that we're 247 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: going to have on later in the season, and he 248 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: talked about getting back to himself, and he mentioned to 249 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: me that he got goosebumps just thinking about what he 250 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: believes he is capable of doing. So far, so good. 251 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Let's hope he stays healthy. Good to see Mike Trout 252 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: being Mike Trout again. 253 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: I love to be able to talk about Mike Trout. 254 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: He deserves so much more than he's been given. All Right, 255 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: question mine is Tony Kemp. And the reason I say 256 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: Tony Kemp is because you have to be some kind 257 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: of class act to be dfad for a guy and 258 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: then turn around and applaud that guy. So Tony Kemp, 259 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: of course, you know, kind of the odd man out 260 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: at the Orioles was DFA to make room for Jackson 261 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: Holiday's major league baseball debut. So what did he do? 262 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: He just had a tweet that said, in the fall 263 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: of twenty ten, our college had a series against the 264 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: Longhorns for a three game set. Our hitting coach at 265 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 2: the time was Josh Holiday and his brother Matt brought 266 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: his kid to our early practice. Of course, that kid 267 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: is Jackson Holiday. I remember watching his son, Jay Holiday 268 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: seven with the sweet lefty swing. Go get him, kid, 269 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: and Ken, this is why Tony Kemp continues to get jobs. 270 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: He's not a superstar in the game, but he is 271 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: a class act and he is a good teammate. I 272 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: loved this for due to the week. 273 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Alana, And if you hadn't taken that, I would 274 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: have taken it. He is absolutely the dude of the week. 275 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: And it was really cool of him to put that 276 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: out there, because when you're DFAD, I don't care who 277 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: you are, I don't care if you expect it or not. 278 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: It's disappointing. You're kind of getting fired. And yet he 279 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: had the overall feel just to say, hey, this is 280 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: a cool moment in the game. 281 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations on being such a class act Tony camp 282 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: And you know what, it happens to the best of them. 283 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: Albert Polholz was dfaied and he's headed to Cooper's town. 284 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: All right, we do have a super chat tweet coming 285 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: in here. We always appreciate that for Grill and Ken. 286 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: But before we get to the question, Ken, who is 287 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: your dork of the week, Well. 288 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: My dork of the week, actually, I'm gonna give some 289 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: multiples here, and it goes to Head of the Union 290 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: Tony Clark, and to Major League Baseball. And the reason 291 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm giving them both Dave Darker the week is they're 292 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: dueling statements that resulted from this wave of pitching injuries. 293 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: You might remember Tony Clark came out and said, we 294 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: weren't consulted on the pitchclock the way we should have been. 295 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: The pitchclock. We had some concerns about it, and they 296 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: weren't listened to, et cetera, et cetera. MLB never won 297 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: to let a thing like that go releases its own statement, 298 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: citing a study that has not even been published, that 299 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: has not even been subject to peer review, claiming that 300 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: the pitch clock has had no effect on injuries. As 301 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: Garrett Cole put it so aptly, it's like hearing divorced 302 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: parents going at it, and we are so tired, all 303 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: of us in the game of this kind of thing. 304 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: We've got a problem in the sport. Pitching injuries are 305 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: a problem. The problem. I don't know if it even 306 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: can be solved, but all of the energy from the 307 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: Union and from MLB should be going toward fixing the problem, 308 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: not the usual sniping at each other that we've heard 309 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: for years and years and years on issue after issue 310 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: the Union, MLB code dorks of the week. 311 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: All right, I agree with you, and so does David 312 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: Rothenberg because he had this to say on the super Chat. Daniel, 313 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: excuse me, Daniel says, from the MEMLB and PA biting 314 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: each other's heads off is annoying? Should there be an 315 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: outside commissioner who works as a middleman? Can commissioners have 316 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: helped both sides in the past with things in the past. 317 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: That's from Daniel Rothenberg on our super chat. What do 318 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: you think about that? Should there be some sort of 319 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: like mediator? 320 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: Daniel's a great wish. It's never going to happen. The 321 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: commissioner of baseball is employed by the owners. His task 322 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: is to do their business and at times it's going 323 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: to make him very unpopular, and that's just the nature 324 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: of the job. Rob Manfred, from the owner's perspective, does 325 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: his job very well. He makes them a ton of money. 326 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: So you would have to get the owners to agree 327 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: to this outside mediator, this person that would be in between, 328 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: and it's never going to happen. 329 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: You know what you should do. You should just get 330 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: a really mad mom that has to separate her two 331 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: kids all of the time, and she's had it up 332 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: to here. And the mom brings in Tony Clark and 333 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: Rob Manfred and says, you know what, this is enough, 334 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: and that's it. Just bring in an angry mom to 335 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: break up her children. That'll be settled in just a 336 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: matter of moments, all right. My dork of the week 337 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 2: happens to go to the Angel's Joe Adele. I'm sure 338 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: you saw this ken, but it was the bottom of 339 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: the eighth inning. The Angels were down four to two 340 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: in the game. He went to steal second base, but 341 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: instead of stealing the bag, he actually overran the bag 342 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: and then was tagged out, causing it to be the 343 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: third out of the inning. So obviously it takes away 344 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: any sort of at bats any opportunities for that run 345 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: to be driven in. I love Ron Washington's response. He 346 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: said it was an embarrassment to everybody. It was a 347 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: teaching moment, of course, but that cannot happen, Ken, and 348 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: you know better than anybody covering this game as long 349 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: as you have. I think any manager of the thirty 350 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: teams can deal with a physical mishap, but not a 351 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: mental mistake. 352 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 1: You're write a lot it. But I will say this, 353 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: not every manager would attack the issue as directly as 354 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: Ron Washington did. And players can't stand when managers criticize 355 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: them publicly. They hate being thrown under the bus, so 356 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: to speak. But at times it's appropriate, and in this case, 357 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: Ron Washington felt it appropriate, and he had a classic response. 358 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: You got to get that bag simply because of the 359 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: situation of the game. It is a teaching moment. 360 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 2: Hopefully that will never happen again, because when you actually 361 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: look at it, it was embarrassing to. 362 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: All of us. 363 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: I let Joe, I'd run through a wall for Ron Washington. 364 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: And I know that players don't like to be called 365 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: out publicly about this, but I also think there's something 366 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: to be said for a long time baseball man with 367 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 2: the mind that Wash has veteran guy in the game 368 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: saying hey, you cannot do that. I like that. I 369 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: know that he probably would have liked it to be 370 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: handled in the clubhouse. I'm talking about Joe Adell, but 371 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: I give props to Wash on that. What's your take? 372 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Alana. And the other thing is 373 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: to Wash didn't make it personal. He didn't say Joe 374 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: Adell is a dummy or anything like that. He just said, hey, 375 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: this can't happen, and Jo Adell would agree with that. 376 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: I am sure he's an engaging guy. He gets it. 377 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: And yes, players don't like being called out publicly. But 378 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: my gosh, this happened in front of thousands of people, 379 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people, and that's public too. So 380 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: I thought it was handled well by Wash, and I 381 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: would expect it's going to happen again if he sees 382 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: something he doesn't like. 383 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: I mean, and if you're trying to win and you 384 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to win, you're down four to two, 385 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 2: your head has to be in the game. That can't happen. 386 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 2: If you're trying to change the culture in Anaheim and 387 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 2: prove that you can compete in the Al West. And 388 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: by the way, if the Anaheim Angels don't capitalize on 389 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: the fact out shirts that say you got to get 390 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: that bag with the picture of Ron Washington's face, they've 391 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 2: really missed the boat on this marketing opportunity. All right, 392 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: back to Grill and Ken. We have a question next 393 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: on the A's and sd Ruiz. So what's the question 394 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: here on Grill and Ken? If we can pull that up, 395 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: that would be awesome, all right, Matthew moorehead. Can the 396 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: A's bring back st Ken? 397 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: Well, of course they can bring him back. It's a 398 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: question of whether they want to bring him back at 399 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: this time. And they just put Brent Rooker on the 400 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: injured list this morning and did not recall Ruiz. As 401 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: you might remember from the time they demoted him, they 402 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: said they wanted him to work on certain things, get 403 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: on base more so he's capable of stealing more bases, 404 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: and I imagine that process continues. It seemed odd at 405 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: the time, no question, as three. Ruiz was one of 406 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: their better players at the time and had only been 407 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: a few games, of course, but I do expect him 408 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: back in the majors at some point this season, and 409 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: as far as the A's are concerned, there are much 410 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: bigger problems than his three Ruiz is going to be 411 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: back in the bigs. 412 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like whether they're ever going to play in a 413 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: big league stadium again. All right. The next question on 414 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: Gorilla and Ken is regarding Major League Baseball's reigning World 415 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: Series champion and MVP Corey Seeger. Philip Denny has this 416 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: to say, Corey Sieger has yet to register a barrel, 417 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: small sample size or sign of a problem. 418 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: That's a good question, Philip, It's a really good question. 419 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: I was not aware of that. Seagar's numbers are okay 420 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: overall his performance numbers, but not registering a barrel yet, 421 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: I would say that is a little bit concerning. But 422 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: keep in mind the greater context. He's coming off an 423 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: abdominal surgery and obviously it takes time to recover from that. 424 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: Remember he was in the lineup opening day, and I 425 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: don't know that that was necessarily expected. So I would 426 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: imagine as Corey Seeger gains strength and gets his feet 427 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: under him, he's going to be just fine. Yeah. 428 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: I don't worry about Corey too much, especially coming up 429 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 2: in those big moments. Let me ask you another question. 430 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: Though about the Texas Rangers. This is a team that 431 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: obviously is coming off a World Series win, but they 432 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: haven't necessarily adjusted their bullpen woes. Now, there's nobody better 433 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: in the game to deal with it than Boach. But 434 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 2: does the bullpen concern you? 435 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: It's interesting because Bruce Bochi has asked this question, I 436 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: believe two nights ago, and they have had their hiccups 437 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: so far. Laclerk has not been as good as he 438 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: was in the postseason. For starters, I'm not concerned yet, 439 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: but remember what they had to do last season. They 440 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: had to put starters in the bullpen for the postseason 441 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: he and he was one of them. Of course, Dunning 442 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: was another, and that's how they ultimately figured it out. 443 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: They've got great performances out of Spores and Leclerk in 444 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs as well, but they had help. So what's 445 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: interesting about the Rangers, and the thing we have to 446 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: keep in mind is while there's no guarantee, there is 447 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: the possibility that Cherzer will be back before the end 448 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: of May, de Gram and Tyler Molly sometime in the 449 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: second half. Now we're counting on injured players in two 450 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: of those cases, the Gram and schures are older players, 451 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: so who knows. But should they get to the point 452 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: again where they have a surplus of starters, then you 453 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: have the flexibility to do some things like moving heeni 454 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: and dunning too. The bullpen again, so let's give it 455 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: time before we make a full judgment. But the early 456 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: performance has been a bit troubling. 457 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a constant game of chess. Bruce boche nobody 458 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 2: better to manage that game. The next question, as far 459 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: as Grill and Kenna is concern, is regarding robo god. 460 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: I can't speak today robo umps. Joe Mama has this question, Scott, 461 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: can we ask Kenny what he thinks of robo umps? 462 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked about this a lot, Ken, this 463 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: is a situation that keeps coming up. The automated strike zone, 464 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: the automated ball strike zone. Is that gonna happen. 465 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: It's going to happen. I don't know when exactly, maybe 466 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: even as soon as next season perhaps, I don't know exactly. Again, 467 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: how they're thinking about this. I'm in favor, but I'm 468 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: in favor in a limited way. Now. I like the 469 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: challenge system. This is something they're trying in the miners 470 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: where you get I don't know, three calls a game 471 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: where you can challenge and that way. Not everything is 472 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: debated all the time. I don't like the idea of 473 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: robo umps calling the entire game. I like umpires, and 474 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: I like what they do, and I think for the 475 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: most part they do an amazing job. They're not perfect. 476 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: None of us in our jobs is perfect. I send 477 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: that out to everyone out there listening and watch. None 478 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: of us is perfect. But there are times when they 479 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: miss when you would want the ability to say, hey, hey, wait, 480 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: let's look at that one again. That to me would 481 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: be healthy. It would be good for the game. It 482 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: would almost be the equivalent of instant replaying what it 483 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: has done for plays on the basis and home run 484 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: calls and all that the egregious stuff you can go get. 485 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't believe we need full time robo all the time, 486 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: though I'm sure some fans watching games would welcome that. 487 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they would too, But I don't ever 488 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: want anybody to lose their job over something that nine 489 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: times out of ten they get the call. All right, again, 490 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 2: nobody's perfect. To your point, One more question here, as 491 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: we continue with Grill and Ken before we end the show. 492 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: This one's on Angel Hernandez. Nick King says, Ken, why 493 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: does Angel Hernandez still have a job on an MLB field? 494 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: I swear I saw a meme the other day, Ken 495 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: that had an iPhone that had a picture of Angel 496 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: Hernandez and it just said miss call, missed call, miss call, 497 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: miss call. Nick wants to know how come he still employed? 498 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: This question can be from two thousand and four, twenty fourteen, 499 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I'm not exactly sure when Angel's career began, 500 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: but it's been kind of a downhill slope, right. He 501 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: still has a job because the umpires have a strong 502 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: union and he is still employed, and apparently firing someone 503 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: for performance in this particular union is difficult to do. So. Obviously, 504 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: anyone who has watched a game that Angel's been involved 505 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: with over the years has one memory, at least one 506 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: memory of an ump show as we call it on Twitter, 507 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: where Angel kind of gets in the way of the 508 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: normal course of events. I don't get it, No one 509 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: gets it. I'm sure MLB will be quite happy the 510 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: day he retires, but he remains employed. 511 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like weatherman in California. You literally cannot 512 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 2: get fired because it's seventy degrees every day, and if 513 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: you're completely wrong, it doesn't matter. As a weather person, 514 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: you don't necessarily have to be right. Do you have 515 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 2: an interesting Angel Hernandez story that kind of pops out 516 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: in your memory after the decades that you've covered this game? 517 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: I actually don't. In fact, Elana, I can't recall ever 518 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: being involved in a game where he had some kind 519 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: of incident, not with Fox, not even covering as a writer. 520 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: Obviously we've written about Angel over the years, But for 521 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: whatever reason, I have avoided an Angel ump show in 522 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: games that I've been covering in one form or another. 523 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't say that I have had a run 524 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: in with him either. I have to ask you, what 525 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: about out any game that you've been to, you know, 526 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: were you at the Galarraga? What would have been a 527 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: perfect game? Anything like that that you kind of that 528 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: has stood out to you in your career. Wow, I'll 529 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: put you on the spot here. 530 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you put me on the spot. I don't recall 531 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: an umpire situation. One of the most memorable games I 532 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: covered was the Jose Bautista game in the twenty fifteen 533 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: Division series. Correct me, if I'm wrong out there, it 534 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: could be twenty fourteen. I believe it was twenty fifteen 535 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: against the Texas Rangers. Let's just say there was a 536 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: lot going on in that game, and I remember Blue 537 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: Jays fans throwing garbage into the Rangers dugout, and of 538 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: course the night ended or climax with Bautista hitting that 539 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: home run and that remarkable batflip. That was one of 540 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: the most memorable games I've ever covered. There were a 541 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: lot of things in that game that culminated in that 542 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: emotional moment. But as far as an umpire screwing things up, 543 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: I'll give you one. Okay, the Cardinals World Series, in 544 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: which I think it was against the Rangers. I don't 545 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: recall exactly. Yati or Molina scored the winning run, and 546 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: he scored it on an obstruction call, and it was 547 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: a very obscure call. We couldn't figure out why it happened. 548 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: Tim McCarver in the booth for Fox that night, he 549 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: nailed it. He said, that's obstruction. He got it. But 550 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: I remember interviewing Yatier, and you know, Alta, You've done 551 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: this one hundred and million times where you got a 552 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: guy come right off the field and the game has 553 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: just ended. I didn't know what had happened. I'm not 554 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: sure Yatier knew what had happened, and we just kind 555 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: of waned it. That was live TV, folks. 556 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta love it. You just you plow forward. Yeah, 557 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: I completely understand that. Well, it has been a pleasure 558 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: getting to talk to you always. You're such an you know, 559 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: plethor of information. Thanks for being here, as thank us 560 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: for letting me be on your show. It's been fun. 561 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: The first one four or five shows you the co host. 562 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: All Right, guys at home and listen in on the podcasts, 563 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,239 Speaker 2: don't forget to listen to subscribe. 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