1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Welcome in, everybody to betting pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: your bets. It's me Joey p Joe Pi Zapia and 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: it's week eighteen, and you know what that means. It's 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: time to look ahead at the final regular season week 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: of the NFL. Can you believe it? We're here already, 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: and there's some major playoff implications. Some teams are in, 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: some teams can get in, some teams need a lot 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: of help, and some teams, well they can't be helped 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: at all. But this team is here to help you. 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: It's Sam Hoppin, It's Pat fitz Morris, and it's me 11 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: and we're going to go through the sleigh talk about 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: the early value on some of the lines in week 13 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: eighteen where we see these games going. And last week, 14 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: Pat fitz Morris, it was another wild and wacky week 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL, Arizona Cardinals getting the w against the Eagles. 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: But luckily your packers have found themselves in a winning 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: get in scenario. But you, my friends, seem to be 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: of little faithfull, he told me before the show. 19 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, I just have a little bit of 20 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: trepidation about that matchup against the Bears. Show just because 21 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: the Bears have been playing so well. And we'll talk 22 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: about it a little later. But like, the Packers are 23 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: gonna have to truly earn their way into the playoffs. 24 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: The Bears are not gonna lay down for them. So 25 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, if they win, they will have truly deserved it. 26 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: All right, So Pat is hedging, but Sam is not. 27 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: Sam is wrapping his Green Bay stuff right now. I 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: don't think you can see it in the pox. You 29 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: might have to pull that up a little bit, but 30 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: there you go. There it is. The Green Bay Packers 31 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: sweater is on this morning. So Sam, uh, this is 32 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: I think the unexpected, maybe the most unexpected potential playoff 33 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: appearance for the Packers. And what twenty five years for you? 34 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: I mean, but yeah, it's been a long time. I mean, 35 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what expectations I really had for the 36 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: Packers going into the season. I mean, I think the 37 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: biggest thing was figuring out what Jordan Love is and 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: I think we sort of have at least they're going 39 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: to keep them around for another season or two, it 40 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: seems like. But I'm excited about their potential to make 41 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: the playoffs and and much more confident than my fellow. 42 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: She's had Pat's. 43 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: By the way, Joe thirty five years, I think was 44 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: the last. Oh and actually I take that back. They 45 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: didn't make it. It was nineteen eighty nine with Don Makowski. 46 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: Imagine ten and six and they didn't make it in 47 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: that year. 48 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, you guys have had a good run. My 49 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: Patriots had a good run too. But all good things 50 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: come to an end. At least they lost this past weekend. 51 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: So thank goodness for that. I thank goodness for all 52 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: the coverage we have here. Don't forget if you were 53 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: having fun at Fantasy Pros and Betting Pros, subscribe to 54 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: our channels. 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All right, let's start with 64 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: some good times, and all the games are on Sunday 65 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: because it's the last week of the season. Let's start 66 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Baltimore asserted itself with dominant, so 67 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: any any concerns I had about the Mottimore raven have 68 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: been put to bed. So I apologize on half of 69 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: myself that I did not believe enough of the Ravens, 70 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: and I had Miami on the money line because I 71 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: thought they were going to challenge them. They did not. 72 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: They did not. But here we are, so a lot 73 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: of teams again a week eighteen, Sam, this is the 74 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: tough thing. You get teams that are sitting players. Seems that, 75 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, I can't do anything else. So when we're 76 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: talking about this line right here, right now, you have 77 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: Baltimore at four point underdogs, because the anticipation is they're 78 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: not going to be, you know, putting anybody out there. 79 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: They're going to take some weeks off and maybe they'll 80 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: play half a game. We'll see thirty six and a 81 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: half is the number plus one sixty five. And Sam 82 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: like this is the perfect example of a week eighteen 83 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: game already that is really difficult to gauge because of 84 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: the variables and implications of teams that are in and 85 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: have things to play for, teams that are in have 86 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: nothing to play for in teams that you know are 87 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: still fighting for their life. So what do you think 88 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: about this line? This is a game you stay away 89 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: from because of the implications of it. 90 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Ravens already had the one seed in the 91 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: AFC line. I am wondering if they are going to 92 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: play some of the starters, given how twenty nineteen went 93 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago when they had the ones 94 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: he'd locked up going in the final week, they sat 95 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and some of their other starters and then 96 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: got the doors blown off them in the divisional round 97 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: against Tennessee. But I still think taking the double buy 98 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: for them is the optimal move. Mason Rudolph is going 99 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: to be starting again in this game for the Steelers. 100 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: It sounds like can you pick it will be the backup, 101 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: But I actually took the under thirty seven in this 102 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: game earlier this morning. Neither team is particularly fast paced. 103 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: The Ravens offense will obviously take a massive step back 104 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: without Lamar Jackson, and this Pittsburgh defense has still played 105 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: some decent games, the pass rush is still a force 106 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: to be reckoned with, and Pittsburgh has been on offense 107 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: a very run heavy team, especially over the last month. 108 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: So I think all of this leads me to again 109 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: the under in this game and a divisional matchup with 110 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: one team really needing the win. 111 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: Here, they need a win in some help, Pittsburgh needs 112 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: a win and a Buffalo loss, a win and a 113 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 1: Jacksonville loss or tie, a win at Houston, Indye tie, 114 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh tie, Jacksonville loss Houston, Indy doesn't end at a tie, 115 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: and then Jacksonville loss plus a Denver win plus a 116 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: Houston Indianapolis not ending at a tie. So there's a 117 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: lot of complicated things here, So Pat, let's make it simple. 118 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on this Pittsburgh Baltimore game. 119 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I can't remember if it was like 120 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: twenty nine percent or thirty two percent, right in that range. 121 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: Basically a one third. 122 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: Chance for the Steelers to get into the playoffs per 123 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: NFL dot Com. So yeah, no incentive for the Ravens. 124 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: But Sam Rais is a really interesting point about their 125 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: last go round. Maybe John Harbaugh wants to take a 126 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: different approach after that and not totally lay down in 127 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: Week eighteen. But they're probably gonna rest starters early if 128 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: nothing else, So I don't trust the Steelers to take 129 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: care of business in one of the most hostile road 130 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: venues for any team in the league. And I really 131 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: don't want to bet on the team that's probably gonna 132 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 2: be resting players. But I do want to bet the under, 133 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: as Sam mentioned, and I got it at thirty seven 134 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: and a half. It feels like the totals should be 135 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: like thirty four and a half thirty five for this one, 136 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: so I think there is a lot of value on 137 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: the under. 138 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: Next one, here is a pick of Indianapolis hosting Houston. 139 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: Both teams are nine and seven Indie minus one right 140 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 1: now at home. Forty seven and a half is the number. 141 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: Pat you can get minus one to five or Houston 142 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: on the money line. You get minus one fifteen on 143 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: the money line for Indianapolis. Just scenario wise, to kind 144 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: of run through this real quick, Houston can clinch AFC 145 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: South Division title with a win a Jacksonville loss or tie. 146 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: They can clinch a playoff berth with a win a 147 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: Jacksonville or loss Anna Pittsburgh loss or tie, and then 148 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: Indy needs to win, and then he got a Jacksonville 149 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: loss or tie or a Indie win a Jacksonville loss, 150 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: so either one that is a good situation. So they 151 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: can even tie and still make the playoffs. So wacky 152 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: stuff here, But look, these teams have gotten this far. 153 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: She's do coaches on a great job pat all year 154 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: to get these two teams nine and seven, considering the 155 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: obstacles they've overcome. That being said, do you have a 156 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: lean here on one of the sides of this game? 157 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 5: Oh? 158 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: You know, I really don't show it. 159 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: I find it interesting though that this opened with the 160 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: Colts favored by two and a half and was quickly 161 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: beat down. And isn't it interesting, gentlemen, how the Texans 162 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: have become such a public team this year, And like 163 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: we've seen that a lot, Like there was a while 164 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: I was kind of consistently going against the Texans because 165 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: I didn't think we were getting any sort of value 166 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: on them. Like I feel like they have become a 167 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: public team. Everyone loves CJ. Stroud, everyone loves Damiko Ryans, 168 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: everyone loves the Texans. So yeah, I mean, the Colts 169 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: beat the Texans back in Week two. I don't know 170 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: if there are many takeaways. I mean, Anthony Richardson was 171 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: still playing at the time, and the Indie jumped out 172 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: to a big lead, but they were actually outgained in 173 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: that game. I believe the Colts are just so hard 174 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: to figure out. I mean, they've won six of their 175 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: last eight games, but they lost by twenty to the 176 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: Jake Browning led Bengals, and they lost to the Falcons 177 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: by nineteen, So like, you don't know when they're gonna 178 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: come out and lay an egg. I think the opening 179 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: line of Colts minus two and a half was probably 180 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: closer to what it should be than where the line 181 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: is sitting right now. But I'm just not sure I 182 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: want to bet the Colts this week. Yeah, I'm probably 183 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: just staying away. 184 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm leading to the Colts on this one, Sam, just myself. 185 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: They're at home. You know, you're asking a new head 186 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: coach and a rookie QB to go on the road 187 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: to win the game. And I'm not saying CJ. Straus 188 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: not up for that task. I think he is. But 189 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: at the same time, if you look back at that 190 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: game earlier this year, you know, no, the Houston Texas 191 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: haven't allowed one hundred yard rusher all season. The guy 192 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: who came closest was actually Zach Moss with eighty eight, 193 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: which is a credit to the offensive line. I think 194 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis Colts and now they have Jonathan taylorrun 195 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: the football coming off a good game. I think Taylor 196 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: is the key to this game. His health and I 197 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: think they put the ball in Jonathan Taylor's hands in 198 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: this one. I think that's how they win. What do 199 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: you think. 200 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: I don't know that they'll be able to run the ball. 201 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: I mean, like you said, Houston's rushing defense has been great. 202 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: There. 203 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: They rank second in success rate allowed over the last 204 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: four seasons. Excuse me, over the last four weeks this season, 205 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: their rush defense is first and success rate and second 206 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: in rushing DVOA. So I think the way that Indy 207 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: is going to need to attack Houston is through the air. 208 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: But give me CJ. Stroud and the point or give 209 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: me give me the Texans on the money line. I mean, 210 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: he's he continues to play extremely well. They or the 211 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: Texans could have had a better day this past week 212 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: against Tennessee if not for their offense. Sort of sputtering 213 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 3: out in the red zone a couple of times, which 214 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 3: again makes me optimistic that they'll be able to move 215 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: the ball, especially against this Colts defense that doesn't really 216 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: have anything particularly special about them. So I love the 217 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: Texans in this spot. I think CJ. Stroud steps up 218 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: to the moment and delivers. 219 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: All Right, two teams I want nothing to do with 220 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints and the Atlanta Falcons. They're gonna be 221 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. The New Orleans Saints are three and 222 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: a half point favorites in this one forty one and 223 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: a half is the number, and then plus one fifty 224 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: for the Atlanta Falcons, who have not played well on 225 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: the road all year. Sam, this is another you know, 226 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: kind of we'll evaluate Arthur Smith's situation. So I'm sure 227 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: theoretically the effort level here for Atlanta is going to 228 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: be high in terms of playoff implications. Obviously, you know, 229 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different for them, so they're trying 230 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: to stay alive and see if they can somehow, you know, 231 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: figure it all out. But in your opinion here, the 232 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: way this line is set, I mean, it's a tough 233 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: sell for me to have any sort of faith in 234 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: either of these teams. New Orleans can clinch NFC South 235 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: with a win and a Tampa loss or tie if 236 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: they tie or Tampa loses, and then also they can 237 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: win and clinch a playoff berth with a Seattle loss 238 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: or tie, a green Bay loss or tie or no tie, 239 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: Seattle loss and green Bay life. So again complicated. But 240 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: for Atlanta, they gotta win and Tampa's gotta lose, and 241 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: then they're still alive in this thing. Your thoughts on 242 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: this contest. 243 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: I agree it's tough to really want to rely on 244 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: either side here, which is why I'm on the under 245 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: for this game as well. I expect we get Desmond 246 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: Ritter in this game. It sounds like they're going to 247 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: try to get Taylor Heinike ready to play for Atlanta, 248 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: but seems like it's not a given. Both defenses are 249 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: top six in early down success rates, so they're putting 250 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: teams behind the sticks early in the drive, and I 251 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: just think these offenses, especially if you're gonna make Atlanta 252 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: have to pass the ball, are not going to be 253 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: able to move it very well against the Saints defense, 254 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: which has had some good good games in the past, 255 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: obviously had a great game this past week against Tampa Bay. 256 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 3: So I like the under forty one and a half. 257 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: All right, the under for you? Sam? What about you? Pat? 258 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: What do you think about this one? Just stick with 259 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: the under two and avoiding the sides. I think that's 260 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: probably a good practice. 261 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I like the under, and in fact, 262 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: I'm actually like a little inclined to bet the over. 263 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 5: Here. 264 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: The last time these two teams played, it was twenty 265 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: four to fifteen, so only thirty nine points. But yeah, 266 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: so last time they played twenty four to fifteen, but 267 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: we saw these teams go up and down the field. 268 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 2: There were over eight hundred yards of offense in that game, 269 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: only two offensive touchdowns, both of them by Bijon Robinson. 270 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: It's mainly because the Saints kept petering out near the 271 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: goal line. They had to settle for five Blake Groupie 272 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: field goals. So, boy, I don't know, Like, I think 273 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: this number is just low enough where I think there's 274 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: a smidge of value on the over, But I'm not 275 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: interested in either side. Joe, you said it two really 276 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: unpredictable teams, and you know, I just I don't know. 277 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: I'm not betting Arthur Smith and I don't want to 278 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: lay three and a half with the Saints either. 279 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: All right, Now, Jacksonville can clench a playoff birth with 280 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: a tie or a Pittsburgh lost or tie. If Pittsburgh 281 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: loses and Denver loses and Houston Indianapolis doesn't end to 282 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: the tie, Jacksonville's in now. Jacksonville can clinch the AFC 283 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: South if they just win. Just handle your business against 284 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. That's all you gotta do here. So 285 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans are at home, Jacksonville's going on the road. 286 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee is five point underdogs at home. It's a Mike 287 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: Rabel team. So my guess is they are going to 288 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: show up despite the five wins, and they are going 289 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: to play hard and try and ruin someone's day. Forty 290 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: is the number for this one plus one eighty on 291 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: the money line for Tennessee, which is a little tempting 292 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: to me. Pat, I don't know about you, because you 293 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: know nothing. I'm sure Mike Rabel would love more than 294 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: to stick it to somebody on the way out. Do 295 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: you think Tennessee has that ability to do that against Jacksonville, 296 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: or does Jacksonville go on the road and get a 297 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: w and get themselves in. 298 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: I think Tennessee absolutely has the ability to play spoiler 299 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: here at Joe and I didn't take them on the 300 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: money line, but I've already bet them with the points. 301 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: And look, yeah, first of all, the Jaguars had lost 302 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: four straight games before shutting out the Panthers twenty six nothing, 303 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: and I'm not ready to say that their ship has 304 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: been entirely righted just by virtue of shutting out the Panthers. 305 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: The other point I. 306 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 2: Want to make about this game, like, and this does 307 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: apply to some of the other Week eighteen games as well, 308 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: don't be so quick to dismiss the teams that have 309 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: been eliminated from the playoffs and seemingly have nothing to 310 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: play for. They want to go into the offseason on 311 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: an upbeat note, feeling good about themselves, and a win 312 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: gets a lot of the bad taste from a failed 313 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: season out of your mouth. So maybe the season didn't 314 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: go the way the Titans wanted to, But rather than 315 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: end the season with yet the taste of another loss, 316 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: they can spoil the Jaguars playoff hopes here and you know, 317 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: go out on a triumphant note. So Mike Vrabel seems 318 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: like a players coach. I think it's good players are 319 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: going to be up for this one. And yeah, I 320 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: think the Titans are a very good bat here say, 321 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: you know, I. 322 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: Think that's true of some teams and some coaches, But 323 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: I think other teams and other coaches, you know, don't 324 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: have their teams prepared. And that's why they're teams that 325 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: are out and those guys are thinking about their playing reservations. 326 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: They're not thinking about trying to get hurt. In Week eighteen, 327 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: the Titans feel a little bit more like what Pat's 328 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: talking about, like a team is going to be prepared. 329 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: That being said, do you think that you want the 330 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: Tennessee side of this game with the points because five 331 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: is a pretty decent number. 332 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: I do like Tennessee with the points here. The Jaguars 333 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: are just on a downward trajectory right now. They continue 334 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: to struggle on defense, their offenses losing pieces. They just 335 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: lost Jamal Agnew so they are down to Parker Washington 336 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: as their wide receiver too now. And this past week 337 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: was their first positive EPA day on offense since they 338 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: faced the Bengals in Week thirteen, and that obviously had 339 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: to come against a Panthers defense that has not played 340 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: well at all this season. So I really like Tennessee 341 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: with the points here, all right. 342 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: The next one here, the Detroit Lions are eleven to 343 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: five hosting the Minnesota Vikings at seven to seven. The 344 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: Lions are five and a half point favorites, and the 345 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: consensus betting pros line forty six and a half is 346 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: the number Minnesota on the upset plus two zero five. Now, look, 347 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: Detroit doesn't have much to play. Four. They try their best, 348 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: but the referees they're not having it over the weekend 349 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: and now they're probably they're not in a position where 350 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: they've really changed too much in terms of their stars. 351 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: So they've won the division, They've locked that up. Do 352 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: you think you see Dan Campbell pushes guys further or 353 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: give him a little bit of a breather here, Sam, 354 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: as this game goes on and looking forward to the 355 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: ultimate success of the playoffs, Yeah. 356 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: I really can't tell, because that at worst they're going 357 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: to be the number three seed in the conference. They 358 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: only get to the number two seed if they win, 359 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: Aunt Dallas loses and Dallas plays in the late afternoon slot. 360 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: I don't think we know who's starting from Minnesota. I 361 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: expect it will be Nick Mullins. But this Detroit offense 362 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: has gotten back on track after a brief stint underperforming 363 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 3: they've had. They had three straight games without a success 364 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: rate over forty percent, and they've been above forty two 365 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: percent in each of the last three weeks. So if 366 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: the Lions are going to play their starters the full game, 367 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: which I think is what Dan Campbell will want to do, 368 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 3: given that's the only way that they can move up 369 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: to the number two seat, then I really like Detroit 370 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: with the points here because Minnesota's defense has has shown 371 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: some holes over the last couple of weeks, and again 372 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 3: I expect that the Lions to continue to click on offense. 373 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like the season's taking its toll. Every 374 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: bounce that went their way last year has gone the 375 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: opposite way, and all the injuries finally I think mounted 376 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: against Minnesota. I'm where Sam is. I'm on the signs 377 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: of the Lions of this game. And you know, Dan 378 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: Campbell is that kind of coach who wants to play 379 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: every second of every game and bind every kneecap. I 380 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: mean it feels about right, doesn't. 381 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: It that it does show, and I feel like he's 382 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: gonna want to get momentum back after not winning that 383 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: game in Dallas, even though they should have won that 384 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: game in Dallas, and even though that was disappointing to 385 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: those of us who were greedy and took the Lions 386 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: on the money line rather than taking the points in 387 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: that game. Yeah, what a disappointing result that was. So yeah, 388 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: I do feel like the Lions are going to play 389 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: it out. And I mean the Vikings are a hot 390 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: mess right now. Like, not only do they have this 391 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: quarterback situation where we don't know whether it's gonna be 392 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: Nick Mullins, maybe the return of Josh Dobbs. I don't 393 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be Jaron Hall again. But no matter 394 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: who they put in, it's like resulting in turnovers galore. 395 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: And the Vikings. 396 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: Defense was a hot mess against the Packers. There were 397 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: guys running wide open, like no one within twenty yards 398 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: of them. So I think the Lions are going to 399 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: take care of business here. 400 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: You know. 401 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: The lack of motivation is maybe holding this number down 402 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: a little bit. 403 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: I like him. If I can get him at minus five. 404 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: This next game, I gotta be honest, boys, I want 405 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: nothing to do with. The Patriots are at home four 406 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: and twelve minus two and a half against the New 407 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: York Jets. The number for this game is thirty and 408 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: a half plus one twenty for the Jets of the 409 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: money line. My temptation, Pat is to look for the 410 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: Jets here because there's something profound about the circle of 411 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: life where Bill Belichick dominates the Jets his entire career 412 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: and all these things and wins all these Super Bowls 413 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and then maybe the last game 414 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: he coaches could be a loss to the New York 415 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: Jets in New England. I like the symmetry of that. 416 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: It's a good story, but I don't know if I 417 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: can invest in it. At the end of the day, 418 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: look tough day at the office, probably for Breeze Hall, 419 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: because they're really good against the run. You take that away, 420 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: then you're making the Jets quarterbacks beat you, and I 421 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: don't know if they're capable of that. I hate this game, Pat, 422 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm running away your thoughts. 423 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: I hate it too, Joe. 424 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: I initially thought I was going to betting the under 425 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: figure and we'd get a number at like thirty three 426 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: or thirty four. 427 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: Nope, No, thirty. 428 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, they set this bar really low, so I don't 429 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: even have any interest in betting that. 430 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 4: I'm walking away like you. 431 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: All right, So pat and I have left for the evening, Sam, 432 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: would you like to join us out at the bar. 433 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 3: No, give me the Patriots and Bill Belichick and potentially 434 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 3: his final game as the Patriots head coach. That is 435 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: my hard hitting analysis right there. 436 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: That makes me sad because the last thing I want 437 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: to do is the Patriots fans win another game and 438 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: ruin any more draft position already that we've ruined, So 439 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: that makes me even more angry. But let's move on. 440 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: Carolina is gonna host the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Boy, Tampa 441 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: needs Carolina Panthers in the worst weight here. They had 442 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: it right there for themselves last week. Now they've put 443 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: themselves in this scenario where they got to win this 444 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: week and keep that train going. Unfortunately, so they are 445 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: five and a half point favorites on the road, which 446 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: makes sense. That feels about right to me. Thirty seven 447 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: and a half is the number plus two hundred for 448 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: the Carolina money line. Now, Carolina has nothing to play 449 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: for here, Sam. They are misery. They are terrible. Do 450 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: you think they can play spoiler here to Tampa Bay 451 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: or do you think Tampa just goes out there and 452 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: from a personnel perspective, just handles them. And considering you 453 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: know what we've seen sometimes from Mike Evans against Carolina, 454 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: this could be a lots of props on the overs 455 00:20:59,119 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: on Mike Evans. 456 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, this one. I think there's a couple of ways 457 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 3: to attack this one. I think that the Bucks, I 458 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: think take care of business. But if Tampa Bay leans 459 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: too heavily into the run, then I think Carolina has 460 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 3: a chance to cover. Because Rashad White has been one 461 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: of the worst rushers in the league this year. He's 462 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: near the bottom and rushing yards over expectation. The Carolina 463 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: rushing defense has actually been pretty solid in their pass 464 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: defense is what teams are having success doing. So with 465 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 3: Baker banged up a little bit, it sounds like he's 466 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 3: going to play, but and he has been playing really well. 467 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: I do think that, you know, two drives into the game, 468 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 3: if Tampa Bay is leaning on the run, I think 469 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: there's a potential live betting opportunity with the carol with 470 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: Carolina and the points. But I don't see a way 471 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 3: that I want to attack it early on, before the 472 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: game starts. 473 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: It makes sense to me here. I mean I don't 474 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: have faith in Carolina to cover any number or really necessarily, 475 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: but Tampa, I just think is the better personnel. This is, 476 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: this is this is a win in your in situation. 477 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: I think Tampa handles their business. What do you think here, Pat. 478 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: I think they probably handle their business, Joe. 479 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: But like with the five and a half, they're good 480 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: enough to give you pause. If this was three and 481 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: a half, I think we feel much better about it. 482 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: It is, and it's another one of those instances where 483 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: maybe we see the Panthers rally just because like it's 484 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: been a nightmarish season. Maybe you don't feel as bad 485 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: about yourself if you go into the off season with 486 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 2: like an upset win and really play the spoiler for 487 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: a divisional rival that needs this win badly. But yeah, 488 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: for that reason, the bet here that I would want 489 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 2: to make if I were playing it, I mean, forced 490 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: to make about it, I'd probably want to bet Tampa, 491 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: But I just I don't see enough value to do it. 492 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 4: Joe. 493 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: What sort of total are we getting on a number 494 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: of drinks? Thrown by David Tepper. 495 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 1: This game, I'm gonna send it. I'm gonna set it 496 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: at one and a half because you know, you gotta 497 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: imagine these double fit after last week for sure. By 498 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 1: the way, the same Panther team that got shut out 499 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: by the Jaguars on Sunday. So I don't have too 500 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: much trade. I'll take Tampa in the points here. I 501 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: might close my eyes, but hopefully I get that one 502 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: big Mike Evans touchdown and that'll start to make me 503 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: feel better as this game goes on, Cleveland Cincinnati. The 504 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns are going to the playoffs, folks with elite 505 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, I love it. The Bengals are eight and eight. 506 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: They're five point favorites, though at home, because Cleveland is 507 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: going to take their feet off the gas because there's 508 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: nothing they can dearly do to better their situation. Thirty 509 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: nine and a half is a number plus one point 510 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: eighty here on the Cleveland money line, which is kind 511 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: of interesting here because, like I get it, Cincinnati pat 512 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: is another team. Maybe they're playing for pride, but is 513 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: that enough here against the backups of Cleveland to cover five? 514 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing, Joe, I mean, the Browns have 515 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: no incentive whatsoever being locked into that five seed. But 516 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: maybe they play their starters for a quarter and a 517 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 2: half just to keep a little bit of momentum going 518 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: into the first round. And as you said, really there's 519 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: no momentum, no incentive for the Bengals either, having been 520 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: eliminated from the playoffs. 521 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna walk away from this. 522 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: One, all right. So Pat's walking away another game where 523 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: you don't know exactly who's going to be on the 524 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: field for. How long do you see this one in 525 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: the same Sam. 526 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: No, I don't think Cleveland plays any of their major starters. 527 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 3: There's really no incentive for them to. I understand that 528 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: the rest versus RUSS debate here, but I think some 529 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 3: of the injuries that Cleveland has suffered on defense is 530 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: enough for them to say, Okay, we don't want any 531 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 3: more of those to happen, especially with guys like Miles 532 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 3: Garrett and Joe Flacco. But I do think one bigger trend, 533 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 3: and I know I've mentioned this a number of times 534 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 3: on the show this year, is in these games with 535 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 3: very uncertain situations, just to bet the plus money odds 536 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 3: on these things to hopefully strike gold with the variants, 537 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: So I think again, Cincinnati or excuse me, Cleveland has 538 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 3: a slight coaching advantage over Cincinnati as well, And I 539 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: don't know. I I think taking the Browns on the 540 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: money line is the better way to play it than 541 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 3: taking them with the points. So it's a weird situation 542 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: because we have, again, one team with no way to 543 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: improve their playoff seating and one team that's eliminated as well, 544 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 3: so there's really no incentive for either of them to win, 545 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 3: though a confidence boost might help a little. So uh, 546 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 3: that's the way I'd be leaning for this game. 547 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: If Nick Chubb was healthy, would the Cleveland Browns be 548 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: the most dangerous team in the AFC? 549 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 3: SAM, I honestly don't know that Nick Chubb changes things 550 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: that much, and I know that I know that's a 551 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: little spicy to say, but they're they're passing the ball 552 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 3: so well. Like the the Amari Cooper connection, the Elijah 553 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: Moore connection has been working well. David and Joku is 554 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: having a great you know, last month. 555 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: After all these years to unlock David Joku. Who'd have 556 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: thought that was coming? Not not me, not me? 557 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 3: But I think I don't know, I don't I don't 558 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: think it changes that much. I think the health on 559 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: defense is what worries me the most for my Browns 560 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: AFC championship future. 561 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: What do you think, Patt, do you think of Nick 562 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: Chubb was still kicking around here? I mean, it's great 563 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: to be throwing the football, but imagine having Nick Chub 564 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: running it too, with that passing attack and running the 565 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: play action off him. I mean, geez, what could have been? 566 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of the question. 567 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and make the Browns offense a little 568 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: more dangerous. But you know, there's the whole how much 569 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: do running backs matter? 570 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: Debates? 571 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: And Jerome Ford is actually yeah, Jerome Ford's good though, 572 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: Like I like Jerome Ford, So I mean, no question, 573 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: nick healthy Nick Chobb is the better running back. But 574 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: it's not like they don't have a running game with 575 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 2: Ford and a little bit of Kareem Hunt sprinkled in. 576 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: So like, the Browns are going to be one of 577 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: the I can't wait to watch their first round playoff game, 578 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: Like this is one of the teams I'm most excited 579 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: about watching. In the first weekend of the playoffs. 580 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: Seattle can clinch a playoff berth with a win or 581 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: a and a Green Bay loss or tie, or a 582 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: green Bay loss and a Tampa Bay loss or with 583 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: a tie of their own and a green Bay loss, 584 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: and in New Orleans ties. So I hope you're all 585 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: keeping track at home of all these scenarios here. Basically, 586 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: if you're Seattle, you gotta win a football game here. 587 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: That's what you got to do and hope for the best. Now, 588 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: the problem is they're in that later window, so I 589 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: don't know how much it's going to change effort level wise, 590 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: but they are eight and eight going to Arizona. This 591 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: is the first of the four o'clock games we're going 592 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: to talk about here. Three point favorites. They are on 593 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: the road against Arizona. Forty seven and a half is 594 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: the total plus one thirty five for Arizona on the 595 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: money line. Sam will start with you on this one here, 596 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: Seattle on the road with the three or do you 597 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 1: like Arizona for the upset? 598 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: My one note is no idea. I think I take 599 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: the Cardinals here. I mean they've they've played well against 600 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 3: the Eagles, who I know are struggling quite a bit, 601 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: but Seattle's defense has taken a big step back here. 602 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray is playing Okay, I don't know. Yeah, I'm 603 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 3: staying away from this game right. 604 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: Now, understandably. So, Pat, are you also somebody who's letting 605 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: this one go in week eighteen, because well, it's complicated. 606 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: I am letting this one go, Joe. It is complicated. 607 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: It's a really interesting line. And man, the Cardinals are 608 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: plucky and kind of have been all year for the 609 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: most part, Like even when they didn't have Kyler Murray, 610 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: they were scrappy with Josh Dobbs and you know, taking 611 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 2: down the Eagles. What a feather in Jonathan Gannon's cap, 612 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: pardon the pun with the Eagles. But so now they 613 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: get another Bird team that they could knock off. 614 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 4: The Seahawks. 615 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 2: Yes, still have a chance to squeeze into the playoffs. 616 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 2: They're highly motivated. But I can't bet the Seahawks here 617 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: with the way their defense is completely fallen apart. I mean, 618 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: they are having some major issues, Like this was a 619 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: pretty good defense earlier in the season, and right now, man, 620 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: they are just they have gone to seed. So no, 621 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: thank you, I'm just I'm not going to bet this one, all. 622 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: Right, Pat. Here we go Green Bay Packers at home 623 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: against Chicago. They aren't home though they are three point 624 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: favorites understandably, so the number for this game is forty 625 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: four plus one. Forty on the Chicago side. And that's 626 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: where you seem to be living these days. So let's 627 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: expand a little bit more on your take on this game. 628 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, literally living on the Chicago side here in enemy territory. 629 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: So the Bears have won for their last five show 630 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: and they slapped around the Falcons last week in a 631 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: big way. Their nice little month long run also includes 632 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: victories over the other two teams in the NFC North, 633 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: the Lions and the Vikings, and as well as the 634 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: Packers played against the Vikings on New Year's Eve, and 635 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: you know, the Vikings quarterback problems finally gave the Packers 636 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: an offense that could make them look good because the 637 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: Packers have really struggled on DEFENSI of late, you know, 638 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: allowing almost four hundred passing yards to Baker Mayfield, then 639 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: over three hundred passing yards to Bryce Young. I am 640 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: worried about what might Justin Fields might be able to 641 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: do to the Packers, and the Chicago defense has been 642 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: terrific lately. So I hate to say it, but I 643 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: do see value in the Bears at plus three, and 644 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: you know, for personal reasons, rather than take the field goal, 645 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: I've got it on the money line. I've got the 646 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: Bears at plus one forty eight. That way, I'm either 647 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: happy about the Packers winning and making the playoffs or 648 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: I win some money. 649 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's a very healthy thing to do here, 650 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: Pat Sam, your confidence is now going to be tested. 651 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: Both these teams coming off wins in Week seventeen, pretty 652 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,239 Speaker 1: decisive ones too. So where do you stand with the 653 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: lines when it comes to Packers and Bears? 654 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 3: Give me the Packers and the points. I know Jordan 655 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: Love had a bad game against the Giants a couple 656 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 3: of weeks ago, but he's played phenomenally over the last 657 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 3: half of the season. He has five games with a 658 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: PFF grade in the seventy fifth percentile in his last 659 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: nine games. He's really clicking with these receivers. Obviously, Jordan 660 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: Reid potentially being out would be a huge hit because 661 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 3: he seems like they're most dynamic player on offense right now. 662 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 3: But the depth, while again the level of receiver that 663 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: the Packers have is not necessarily at the top tier, 664 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: but I think the depth that they have and that 665 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: all of these guys can step up has been a 666 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: true testament to how they've grown over the second half 667 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 3: of the season. So, you know, imagine thinking that the 668 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: Chicago Bears are going to come into Lambeau in Week 669 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: eighteen with a future Hall of Fame quarterback and are 670 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: going to win the game, Like, come on, give me 671 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 3: the Packers go pack up. 672 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 4: There's no hedging for Sam. 673 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: So you know, Sam, if the Packers lose this, I'm 674 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: gonna have to drive down to the city to buy 675 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: you a beer with my winnings apparently, so you can drive. 676 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: Your Well that's a very nice thing of you to 677 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: do there, Pat. I'll say this, My favorite thing is 678 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 1: to take the Packers on the money line and combine 679 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: that with anytime touchdown for Jaden Reed just a tough guy. 680 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: He scores every single week. I know he's got another injury. 681 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: I think he'll play through because this is a very 682 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: important game here. You win, you get in So Reed 683 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: has been money seven touchdowns and seven games. I mean 684 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: put those two things together, you're probably getting the plus money. 685 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: That's the way I attached this one right here and 686 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: gonna attack it all right. Next one here, the Philadelphia Eagles. 687 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: Rough times for the Philadelphia Eagles lately, gentlemen, They're gonna 688 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: go to New York to take on the New York Giants. 689 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: The Giants are five point underdogs at home, as they 690 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: theoretically should be. Forty one is the number plus one 691 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: ninety five on the money line for the Giants. Now, Sam, 692 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but Taylor putting up twenty 693 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: fantasy points last week, Taylor throwing the football, Taylor rushing 694 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. Giants would have a great wide receiver corp. 695 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: But I don't if it matters right now. This Eagles 696 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: defense just seems to be falling apart of the seams. 697 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: I like the Giants and the points on this side. 698 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Giants went outright, but I'm taking 699 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: the points. What are you doing with this one? 700 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a leaning on the side to 701 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: your point, like, the Eagles secondary is still a mess 702 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: in then they just got gashed on the ground by 703 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: the Cardinals and racked up over two hundred rushing yards 704 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 3: against them. Again, the Eagles have been playing extremely well 705 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: in terms of rushing defense this year, but I think 706 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 3: the way I want to attack this is some of 707 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 3: the player props with the Giants wide receivers. I know 708 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: we don't talk about player props much on this show, 709 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 3: but just looking at again the way to attack the Eagles, 710 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: I think wide receivers are targeted at the highest rate 711 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: against the Eagles, So that's the way I'm looking. You know, 712 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 3: the Giants got a little bit lucky with the punt 713 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 3: turn touchdown against the Rams this past week, So if 714 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: it's Tyrod Taylor, I'm certainly more bullish on the Giants 715 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 3: than if it's Tommy DeVito or someone else. 716 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: All Right, your thoughts, Pat Fitzmorris on this contest here, 717 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: I tell you I'm on the Giant side of this 718 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: when the Eagles are not making me feel real good. 719 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'm walking into a snare trap, Joe, but 720 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: I've already bet the Eagles here, okay, and they I mean, 721 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: no question, they are staggering. They have lost for their 722 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: last five and their only win during that stretch was 723 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: against these Giants, but they only won by eight and 724 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 2: didn't cover in that game. So I just feel like 725 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 2: this Eagles team still has a great deal of talent, 726 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: even though the recent results have not reflected that. There's 727 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: no way they should have lost to a team like 728 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: the Cardinals at this late date in the season with 729 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 2: so much on the line. Hopefully that loss fires up 730 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 2: this team, and I think Nick Siriani is going to 731 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: want to build some momentum going into the playoffs. So 732 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 2: I'm gonna lay the points and take the Eagles. 733 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look back here, not that long ago too. 734 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a scenario where you know, they 735 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: played the Eagles a couple of weeks ago and the 736 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: Eagles won thirty three to twenty five. You know, I 737 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: always hate when teams play each other twice in a 738 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: short period of time too. That's never typically a good thing. 739 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: Usually it's very close there, all right, Next one here 740 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: on the Slaves, we continue to roll through the Rams 741 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: and forty nine ers. The forty nine ers have put 742 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: themselves on a good spot here, but the Rams, Mike goodness, 743 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: if they come on hot of late. The number for 744 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: this game is forty two and a half if you 745 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: like the Rams and the money lines plus one fifty 746 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: minus three and a half here for the San Francisco 747 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. Pat your thoughts on this one. Obviously, 748 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: yesterday last week, I should say they handled their business, 749 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: but the Christian McCaffrey injury certainly something to keep a 750 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: close eye on. 751 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, the forty nine Ers are locked into the number 752 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: one seed. The Rams are locked into a playoff spot, 753 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 2: and the only motivation for them is trying to get 754 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 2: the sixth seed rather than the seventh seed. I don't 755 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: know that that is that much motivation. I'm sitting this 756 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: one out, Sam. 757 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that this is a measuring stick game 758 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: for the Rams? Even if the forty nine ers are 759 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: sitting people where, you know, they start to say, hey, look, 760 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: we are good enough to compete here, let's go in there. 761 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: It kind of, you know, harken back to you know, 762 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: back in the day where the New York Giants took 763 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: on and lost that perfect season against the New England Patriots, 764 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: but they realized that they could hang with the big boys, 765 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: and it was a big confidence builder for them. Is 766 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: that the kind of game we could be looking at 767 00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: here for the Rams? 768 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think so. I mean, they took the 769 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 3: Ravens toe to toe and lost in overtime just a 770 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, and the Ravens, some might consider 771 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 3: are are the best team in the NFL. And I 772 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 3: think again, especially if San Francisco's players, I would expect 773 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 3: they they do in this game because when they all 774 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 3: of their key starters have been healthy this year, they 775 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 3: have been an absolute wagon. And so I don't think 776 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 3: they want to risk players like Trent Williams, like Rock Purty, 777 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 3: Debo and all those other guys getting hurt because health 778 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: is the number one thing for them. So I like 779 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 3: the Rams on the money line here. Again, the one 780 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 3: point went over the Giants is not all that inspiring. 781 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 3: It was probably Matthew Stafford's worst game in quite some time. 782 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 3: But I think again the sixteed versus seven seed probably 783 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 3: doesn't sound huge, but it could be the difference in 784 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: them to play San Francisco in the divisional round if 785 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 3: whoever ends up being the seven seed wins their game. 786 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 3: So I think they they have all the more motivation 787 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 3: than San Francisco does. And again, Matthew Stafford could be again, 788 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 3: if not for Lamar Jackson, could be in the MVP 789 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 3: consideration as well. 790 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: All Right, Denver at eight and eight to Las Vegas 791 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: at seven and nine. How Denver is eight and eight, 792 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: I'll never know. I don't understand how that's possible. In fact, 793 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: I sometimes they have to rub my eyes just to 794 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: make sure that I'm actually seeing that correctly. But Vegas 795 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: is at home. They're two and a half point favorites. 796 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: Thirty eight is the number plus one twenty on the 797 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: Denver money line. Now, look, Vegas, you know, can't really 798 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: do anything here. But at the same time, I think 799 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: this is Antonio Pierce trying to continue to make statements 800 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: that he deserves to have this job. So I think 801 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: they're going to get full effort out of this team. 802 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: That's why I like the Raiders side of this game. 803 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of faith in the Denver Broncos. 804 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: I know they eked out a win last week. I 805 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: don't care. I think this is the perfect trap where 806 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: people are gonna say, oh, look, Denver eked out or win, 807 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: they have something to potentially No, I'm gonna go with 808 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: the Raiders here, just putting an end to the Denver 809 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: Bronco season. Your thoughts, Sam, do you agree or disagree 810 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: with that notion? 811 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 3: I agree. I this is probably my strongest conviction play 812 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 3: of the week is the Las Vegas Raiders minus two 813 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 3: and a half. The Las Vegas defense continues to play 814 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 3: really well under Antonio. 815 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: Peers. 816 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 3: The now third in early down EPA per play this season. 817 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 3: Their rush defense is first in EPA per play allowed 818 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 3: over the last four weeks, despite Las Vegas using the 819 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: second highest rate of light boxes on defense. I used 820 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 3: to think that, you know, having a defensive guy at 821 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: coach is not the right way to go about building 822 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 3: a team, But in my opinion, Antonio Pierce has earned 823 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 3: that job. Again, if you're going to have a defensive 824 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 3: coach as your head coach, at least have someone who 825 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 3: can be a culture builder. And I think he's done 826 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: that in Las Vegas. I think he's earned the job. 827 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 3: I think trying to find someone outside of the organization 828 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 3: is going to be a tough task, especially, you know, 829 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 3: with some of their best players on defense right now, 830 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 3: especially Max Crosby. So I love the Raiders. I love 831 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 3: what Antonio Pierce is doing. I think a huge credit 832 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 3: to him getting this team to where they are right now. 833 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: Pat, we're both on the Raiders. Are you coming with us? Man? 834 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: I think I might have to piggyback you guys. As 835 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 2: convinced as you are. I had a slight leaning toward 836 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 2: the Raiders, but have not bet this one early, and 837 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 2: you guys are selling me like I do. Think the 838 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 2: Raiders defense is vastly underrated, and that's actually part of 839 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 2: the reason why the play I like more in this 840 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 2: game is the under. I think this is going under 841 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 2: thirty eight. I mean, we've got Jared Stidham against Aidan 842 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 2: O'Connell in this game and that underrated Raiders defense, So 843 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: you know, you can absolutely interest me in the under here. 844 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: And by the way, Joe, the Broncos season, what an 845 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 2: interesting Bell Curve season. They've just terrible out of the gates, 846 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: then actually pretty good for a while at mid season, 847 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 2: and then terrible again to end things. 848 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 4: So it's been an early usual season. 849 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: It's so funny they're eliminated from the playoffs at eight 850 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: and eight, and this does is a matter of pride, 851 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: like you get that, you know, that winning season with 852 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: that last w and then Sean Payton can say, hey, 853 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: I went in there, I won, I cleaned up the mess. 854 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: Here we're gonna move on from Russell Wilson. This was 855 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: my year of evaluating and like the end of season 856 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: nine to eight, taking over a team that was such 857 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: a huge mess last year, I think is an accomplishment. 858 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: I just don't think he's gonna get there. I think 859 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: Vegas at the end of the day is gonna you know, 860 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: they're both gonna be eight to nine teams when the 861 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: dust settles on a week eighteen. That's just kind of 862 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 1: where I see them. The Kansaity Chiefs, Boy boy, the Chiefs. 863 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: They finally got a victory there. They're gonna take on 864 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: the Chargers this week. Now. The Chargers are two point 865 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: favorites at home because there's really not too much here 866 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: to play for for the Kansady Chiefs. Thirty six is 867 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: the number for this one plus one ten, So Pat, 868 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: you know, I guess there's two arguments here. You know. 869 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: Is it smart for the Chiefs to kind of just 870 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: sit back and regroup and rest their weary heads a 871 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: little bit, or should they be going out there and 872 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's going on and go beat 873 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: up on a bad Chargers team and have some confidence 874 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. 875 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 2: You could make a case for that, Joe, But I 876 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 2: actually think, like against the Bengals, we saw that offense 877 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 2: function probably better than it has at any other point 878 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 2: last month and a half. So maybe they just rest 879 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: on their laurels, and I think you got to rest 880 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 2: the franchise at this point and not take any risks, 881 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 2: because if you lose Patrick Mahomes, that's it. Your season 882 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 2: is over. So I really doubt we see him there. 883 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 4: But you know, just no real. 884 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: Incentive for the Chiefs being locked into that third seed. 885 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: But do I trust the East and stick led Chargers 886 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: to beat that you? I do not, especially with I mean, 887 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 2: they could not generate anything in the passing game last 888 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 2: week with no Keenan Allen, no Josh Palmer. I don't 889 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 2: see what the incentive is to bring Keenan Allen back. 890 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 4: No the veteran. Yeah, so I just I'm not interested 891 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 4: in playing this game at all. 892 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: That's fair enough. Sam. Are you out on this one too? No? 893 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 3: I like the Chiefs money line here again for some 894 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 3: of the reasons Pat mentioned, Just that the Charters offense 895 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 3: has been abysmal. I think the Chiefs, with even some 896 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 3: of their backups on defense, will be able to lock 897 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 3: this one up again. And Andy Reid is still a 898 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 3: good play caller. I think whoever backs up I don't 899 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 3: even know who backs up Patrick Mahomes at this point, 900 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 3: but there's no reason to start Patrick Mahomes in this game. 901 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 3: As long as he's healthy, he gives the Chiefs a 902 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 3: chance to win, and winning a meaningless Week eighteen game 903 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 3: is not nearly as important as winning in the wild 904 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 3: card round. 905 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 2: I think we're getting blame Gabbart, aren't web. 906 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: That seems to be the case. Dallas at Washington, Dallas 907 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: is thirteen point favorites of this one. Forty four and 908 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 1: a half is the number plus five point fifty Sam. 909 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: It's a big number on the road. We talked about 910 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: the big number on the road last week in Washington. 911 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: So it feels like we're right back where we started 912 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: from in Week seventeen. Your thoughts on this one here? 913 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: That was seventeen points where they were behind, and of 914 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: course the last minute we thought we were going to 915 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: get Jacoby Brissett all the way up until Sunday and 916 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: that was not the case. 917 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 3: Give me the Cowboys and the points. I mean that 918 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 3: the Commanders kept it close against the forty nine ers 919 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 3: this past week up until halftime, and then it was 920 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 3: just the forty nine Ers are like, Okay, we need 921 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 3: to put this out of reach, and they did so 922 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 3: with ease. Again, I think with this game and potentially 923 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,720 Speaker 3: you know some of the other games too, with these 924 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 3: you know games of how much again are they going 925 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 3: to start their starter or play their starters? All that 926 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 3: sort of stuff is to keep an eye, you know, 927 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 3: do some scoreboard watching yourself, and look, if the Eagles 928 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 3: are trailing, I mean, look, you know, possibly place a 929 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 3: bet on the Commanders to cover because the Cowboys might 930 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 3: sit they're starters for you know, the last quarter or 931 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 3: something like that. So that's it. Give me the Cowboys at. 932 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: The points, all right, Pat too many points for you 933 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: or you like the Cowboys as well? 934 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 4: Oh man? 935 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 2: I mean the Cowboys need this one. They're the far 936 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 2: superior team. The Commanders have lost seven straight. Sam Howell 937 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 2: has been kind of a train wreck over the last 938 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 2: month after playing pretty well for much of the season. 939 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm leaning Cowboys, but I haven't bet it yet. This 940 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 2: is it's just in that zone where I do not 941 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 2: like laying this many points in NFL games. It's just, 942 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 2: you know, and maybe the Commanders do have that thing 943 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 2: where they want to go out on a good note 944 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 2: and play really hard one last time and try to 945 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 2: mess with a division rival. So I may yet bet 946 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, but I haven't done it yet, and I'm 947 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 2: not sure whether I'll be able to pull the trigger 948 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 2: or not. 949 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: All right, last one here is a fun one. The 950 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 1: Night Game A twenty. You get Miami eleven to five 951 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: hosting Buffalo ten to six, winning the AFC East. That's 952 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: what's on the line here between these two teams. Now 953 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: you do have Buffalo getting another way to get into 954 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: They can clinch a playoff berth if they tie, if 955 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh loses, if Jacksonville loses, or if Houston and Indianapolis 956 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: ends in a tie. So this is kind of like 957 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: you know that last ditch here. Can you win the division? 958 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: Can you lock it all up? Pat? Who do you 959 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: like in this contest? Because we're looking at the lines 960 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: here right now, it's three on the side of Buffalo. 961 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: They are the favorites in this one? Is they I 962 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: think should be? I actually think this is right. Miami 963 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: get their doors blowing off by Baltimore last week. That 964 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: sets them rilliing a little bit. They've had some injuries 965 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: on defense too lately. That's hurt. Fifty is the number 966 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: for this one. It's a very high total plus one 967 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,479 Speaker 1: forty for Miami at home and the money line, Pat 968 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: your thoughts. 969 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at first blush people are going to 970 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 2: see this and want to maybe take Miami as a 971 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 2: home dog. And it does sound as if Mike McDaniel 972 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 2: expects too a tongue of I looa to lay through 973 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 2: the shoulder injury he sustained against the Ravens, but Bradley 974 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 2: Chubb towards ACL in that game, Xavin Howard is going 975 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 2: to be out with a foot injury. That's a lot 976 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 2: of defensive firepower the Dolphins are going to be missing here, 977 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: even though that defense has been playing really well, or 978 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 2: at least it was until it ran up against the Ravens. 979 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 2: So also, we have seen the Bills consistently get up 980 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 2: for games against top notch opponents this season, like they 981 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 2: have done it all year, and they've thrown their best 982 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: punch in most of those games, whereas the Dolphins. 983 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 4: Not so much. 984 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 2: We have seen them consistently shrink from the challenge of 985 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,439 Speaker 2: playing the best teams in the league. So I think 986 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 2: this line is right. Like you, Joe, it does feel 987 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 2: like it's probably set where it should be. I'm not 988 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 2: gonna bet this game. I just would warn people against 989 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 2: like seeing the Dolphins getting points at home and being 990 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 2: quick to jump on that one. 991 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 4: I'm not anxious to do that. 992 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: All right, Sam, are you anxious to bet at other 993 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: side of this game? 994 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 3: I don't know that I am, uh, you know kind 995 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,720 Speaker 3: of with with Pat here that having to lay three 996 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 3: points in an away game is again. I know the 997 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 3: Dolphins have struggled a little bit the last couple of weeks, 998 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 3: but they still have some firepower on offense, and obviously 999 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,479 Speaker 3: Jalen Wattle being banged up as well, who will see 1000 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 3: if he goes. It's it's just such a funny scenario 1001 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 3: because the Bills, I believe, had the second best odds 1002 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 3: in the AFC to win the Super Bowl, and if 1003 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 3: they lose this game, they could be out of the 1004 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 3: playoffs completely. Like there there's well that's. 1005 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: The thing, right standone game, so you're gonna know if 1006 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: you're Buffalo kind of if Tampa loses this, it's not Tampa. 1007 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: Excuse me. If if you had Jacksonville lose, you have 1008 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh lose, you haveah a couple of things happen already, 1009 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: you kind of know your your fate. So then it 1010 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,280 Speaker 1: becomes the pride of the division. How much that matters? 1011 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, but the two seed versus the sixth 1012 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,879 Speaker 3: seed is also a massive sure too. Like you, you're 1013 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 3: getting one, possibly two home games if if you win, 1014 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 3: instead of having to go on the road to point again. 1015 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 3: I mean, they might have to go on on the 1016 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 3: road to the Dolphins then again and again coming off 1017 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 3: of a loss, or or going up on the road 1018 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 3: to the Chiefs. So I knew they just beat recently, 1019 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 3: but that game could have gone either way too. So 1020 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 3: I think Buffalo, regardless of the outcome of those the 1021 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 3: Steelers and the Jacksonville games, they're gonna be up for 1022 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 3: it and are gonna want to win. There's I mean, 1023 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 3: they're not gonna rest any starters by any means. But 1024 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 3: I think the key here is how much the Bills 1025 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 3: passed the ball, because since Joe Brady took over, they 1026 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 3: have gone one game with a positive pass right over expectation, 1027 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 3: and that was against the Chiefs. And the way to 1028 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 3: attack this Bill's defense, or excuse me, this Dolphins defense, 1029 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,439 Speaker 3: especially with the injuries that you guys mentioned, is through 1030 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 3: the air. I mean, we saw what Lamar Jackson just 1031 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 3: did to the Dolphins this pass last week. So I 1032 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 3: don't really know understand why they're not passing the ball 1033 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 3: so much. I mean they haven't really had to a ton, 1034 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 3: but they've dropped back on just over fifty percent of 1035 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 3: their plays the last four weeks, which is dead last 1036 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 3: in the league over that span. So if they let 1037 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 3: Josh Allen loose, then I feel more confident about the 1038 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 3: Bills taking in this one. 1039 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: All right, Stay on top of all the lines with 1040 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,800 Speaker 1: the Betting Pros app. Download it now if you haven't already, 1041 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 1: sync up your sports book and start betting smarter, not harder. 1042 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,919 Speaker 1: Don't forget too. If you have iOS, you get three 1043 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,479 Speaker 1: free days of premium to check that out. Perfect time again. 1044 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: This is that time of year. We got so many 1045 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: sports going on. It's an incredible group of systems here 1046 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: that we have over at Betting Pros. 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