Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
Speaker 1: with you and Senator, We're going to have a really
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Speaker 1: he actually got to sit down multiple times with the
Speaker 1: President and every one of the cabinet members to talk
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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: We have a terrific guest on our show today, Scott Jennings,
Speaker 3: the intrepid conservative warrior who goes on CNN every day.
Speaker 3: He battles the crazy comedies on CNN. He does so
Speaker 3: with a smile, he does so with a light touch.
Speaker 3: He absolutely dominates the lefties. And he's written a brand
Speaker 3: new book and the book is entitled A Revolution of
Speaker 3: Common Sense How Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for
Speaker 3: Western civilization. Here's the book. I would encourage you go
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Speaker 4: Cenator. You're in Washington, d C. I'm obviously in Houston.
Speaker 4: This man.
Speaker 1: I get to do battle with the comedies on CNN.
Speaker 1: Often they've stopped putting us together. I think that's on purpose.
Speaker 1: I think they didn't like it was an unfair fight.
Speaker 1: When you have the brilliant brain of Scott and then
Speaker 1: you know I'm there as well. I'm not saying I'm brilliant,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying it's a nice duo here.
Speaker 4: But it's really fun.
Speaker 1: To have Scott Dinnings with us on the podcast where
Speaker 1: a really cool book he has put out.
Speaker 3: Well, Ben, I will say, you spent seven years battling
Speaker 3: the comedies on CNN and then I love you man,
Speaker 3: But you ran scared for the hills. Ah.
Speaker 4: You came to the.
Speaker 3: Safe confines of the Verdict podcast swhere. Other than some
Speaker 3: ridicule about old miss and you used to have a
Speaker 3: football coach. Other than that, you avoid any confrontation.
Speaker 1: Yes, outside of that, I'm Switzerland, as you put it, sir,
Speaker 1: in Republican primaries.
Speaker 3: So and I will say Scott Jennings has joined us.
Speaker 3: I got to tell you Scott is on CNN now.
Speaker 3: He is battling with these Bolshevik idiots and I actually
Speaker 3: feel bad for them because like he is beating the
Speaker 3: living crack out of them, and I watch I watch
Speaker 3: the clips on Twitter. I'll confess I do not watch CNN,
Speaker 3: so it's got to go viral for me to watch it.
Speaker 3: If it's actually on TV, I won't turn the damn
Speaker 3: thing on. But if you have a moment that is
Speaker 3: ninety seconds that you're just like body slamming someone I
Speaker 3: inject it like heroin into my veins. I mean, it
Speaker 3: is so all right. And let's be clear. Why is
Speaker 3: Scott here. He is here for the oldest reason in
Speaker 3: the book. So it is eleven forty three at night.
Speaker 3: This poor man has to get up at four in
Speaker 3: the morning to fly on a plane to La correct.
Speaker 3: He is here for one reason only. It's not that
Speaker 3: he loves me. It's not that he loves Ben Ferguson.
Speaker 3: Here because he is selling a damn book.
Speaker 4: So it's a good one.
Speaker 3: It's a good So his book is a revolution of
Speaker 3: common sense, how Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for
Speaker 3: Western civilization. And there's a great picture of Donald Trump
Speaker 3: and a bright red tie. So go buy his book.
Speaker 3: His book is on Amazon, It's on Barnes and Noble.
Speaker 3: I feel confident you can get it. And any place
Speaker 3: books are sold, yes, sir, other than a lefty bookstore
Speaker 3: in Cambridge, Massachusetts, they will not have this book, but
Speaker 3: they will have how to be a transgender Witch and
Speaker 3: study Marxism. So if you want that book, go to
Speaker 3: that bookstore. But anywhere else you can get a revolution
Speaker 3: and common sense. Scott, Welcome to Verdict.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on, and it's a true story
Speaker 5: about the bookstores. We've been setting up book tour events
Speaker 5: around the country, so we'll call ahead and say, oh,
Speaker 5: these people want to buy you a couple hundred books,
Speaker 5: and we've been hung up on We've been told no.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm like literally trying to filter, you know,
Speaker 5: book purchases through your.
Speaker 2: Bookstore, and they literally won't do it.
Speaker 5: And so we talk about these lefties constantly complaining about
Speaker 5: banning books.
Speaker 2: The only one I ever.
Speaker 3: Heard of was this one.
Speaker 2: It would carry it, all right.
Speaker 3: So how did you come? How did you start to be?
Speaker 3: And Sea tell us the start of how this began.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've actually been there for eight and a half years,
Speaker 5: but for the first six years of it or so,
Speaker 5: it was really very much a part time job for me.
Speaker 5: I got recruited in twenty seventeen. I had done some
Speaker 5: work on Fox News in the election in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 5: They recruited me over because after Trump won and they
Speaker 5: didn't expect it, they didn't have many conservatives been was there,
Speaker 5: he knows, and so they were looking for a few
Speaker 5: people who could explain what was going on, and so
Speaker 5: I did it. It was very part time. But then in
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty four election and the advent of this
Speaker 5: debating show, it's become a much bigger part of my life.
Speaker 2: So I've been a long time.
Speaker 5: Member of the family, but lately it's taken up a
Speaker 5: big percentage of my life.
Speaker 1: Scott, I want to ask you real quick about this book.
Speaker 1: And the cool part about this book is a lot
Speaker 1: of people write books, but one of the things is
Speaker 1: you actually talked to the White House the President about
Speaker 1: writing the book and them cooperating with you to do
Speaker 1: this book.
Speaker 4: How did that come about?
Speaker 1: Who did you get to sit with How often did
Speaker 1: you get talk to the President to come up with
Speaker 1: all of the material in it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I went to see him in February. You know
Speaker 5: this title, a revolution of common Sense is a phrase
Speaker 5: that he used in his inaugural address. I was sitting
Speaker 5: on the set at CNN listening to the speech, thinking
Speaker 5: that would be a good title for a book, and
Speaker 5: so I went to pitch a president on it. Truthfully,
Speaker 5: I didn't really know him. I talked about him a lot,
Speaker 5: but it hadn't spent any time with him. So I
Speaker 5: went to meet with him in early February and thought
Speaker 5: I was meeting with him alone. I went into the
Speaker 5: Oval office, and the whole cabinet and the staff were there,
Speaker 5: so I sort of got inserted into one of these
Speaker 5: famous meetings where it's like six meetings at the same time,
Speaker 5: and we spent some time together. And I just told
Speaker 5: him that day, like, I think one hundred of the
Speaker 5: usual suspects are going to come along and write books
Speaker 5: crapping on you. I think someone who likes you and
Speaker 5: voted for you and wants you to succeed, should, you know,
Speaker 5: get a chance to cooperate with you about a book
Speaker 5: about what you're trying to accomplish here and the obstacles
Speaker 5: that you face. I told him, I thought he revolutionized
Speaker 5: campaigning in twenty twenty four, and he was about to
Speaker 5: revolutionize governing, and that it would be a good opportunity
Speaker 5: to tell the story to you know, half or a
Speaker 5: little more than half the country that doesn't get that
Speaker 5: much good news or you know, true narrative about what's
Speaker 5: going on out of his White House.
Speaker 2: And so we discussed it. He agreed.
Speaker 5: I spent some time with him a few meetings over
Speaker 5: the course of the spring. I traveled with him to
Speaker 5: Michigan on his one hundred day in office. I interviewed
Speaker 5: most of the cabinet, interviewed quite a bit of the
Speaker 5: White House senior staff, and you know, some of the
Speaker 5: book is also just my observations. I picked out the
Speaker 5: issues that I thought were the biggest ticket issues of
Speaker 5: the first hundred days, and some of it's also informed
Speaker 5: by the debates that I was having on CNN.
Speaker 3: I was, so, what are the biggest ticket issues from
Speaker 3: the first hundred days.
Speaker 5: Well, at number one, I thought the volume of executive
Speaker 5: orders made his presidency the most active presidency since FDR.
Speaker 2: To immigration is a big issue in this book.
Speaker 3: At a massive success.
Speaker 2: And probably his biggest success, and it's the biggest promise.
Speaker 3: Kept ninety nine percent decrease. I mean, that's insane, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: We have passed any new laws.
Speaker 5: As you know, We've just got a new enforcement mechanism
Speaker 5: called the President. And then also energy frankly, and the
Speaker 5: book kind of ends where they're getting to passing the
Speaker 5: big beautiful bill and the energy piece and sort of
Speaker 5: how that's going to impact the race to win the
Speaker 5: AI competition against China. Also, frankly, some of the cultural
Speaker 5: issues that he took on transgender issues, the DEI stuff.
Speaker 5: I mean, these are not inconsequential matters because not only
Speaker 5: did he sort of rip them out of government, but
Speaker 5: it created a permission structure to rip them out of
Speaker 5: corporate America. Yes, even just today, I think I saw
Speaker 5: AT and T get rid of their DEI stuff finally,
Speaker 5: and so the world's changed. It was an amalgam of policy, political,
Speaker 5: and cultural issues, and he put a lot of balls
Speaker 5: in the air. A lot went through the net, some
Speaker 5: are still laying out there. But what I came away
Speaker 5: with was this that when you become a Republican president,
Speaker 5: you have entrenched things that are working to destroy You
Speaker 5: have media that's trying to destroy you, bureaucraft's trying to
Speaker 5: destroy you, you have federal judiciary trying to destroy you.
Speaker 5: And they're all sort of worked together to overwhelm you.
Speaker 5: And he basically just decided, I'm not going to be overwhelmed.
Speaker 5: I'm going to overwhelm them.
Speaker 2: That's the story of the book.
Speaker 3: So look, I think there are very real differences between
Speaker 3: first term President Trump and second term President Trump. What
Speaker 3: do you see is the biggest differences?
Speaker 2: Totally agree.
Speaker 5: Spending time observing him with the team, he got the
Speaker 5: team that matches his leadership style.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: First time around, not sure they expected to win, sort
Speaker 5: of inherited, you know.
Speaker 3: The first time. I think they were kind of the
Speaker 3: dog that caught the car. They were like, holy crap,
Speaker 3: we won. And I'll confess that there were some mistakes
Speaker 3: in terms of the early appointments that were people that
Speaker 3: were put in the administration the first term who worked
Speaker 3: against the president. And I think he regrets making those
Speaker 3: appointments this. I think the second term is much better.
Speaker 3: It's a much stronger team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they know how to work with him. They
Speaker 5: know that they're there to execute his agenda, not their own, yep.
Speaker 5: And they also understand the hands on nature of it.
Speaker 5: What I witnessed in the Oval office with him is
Speaker 5: this is not a passive sort of situation. This is
Speaker 5: him telling them, go do this and come back to
Speaker 5: me and report. One of the cabinet secretaries said to me,
Speaker 5: you can tell the President we're working on it one time,
Speaker 5: but you don't get a second bite at that out.
Speaker 5: He expects you to go do it and come back
Speaker 5: and tell him what's happened and give your progress report.
Speaker 5: I witnessed that, and so this time around. They thought
Speaker 5: they were going to win. They knew who they wanted
Speaker 5: to do a point, they knew the issues they wanted
Speaker 5: to attend.
Speaker 3: And they had spent four years thinking about exactly what
Speaker 3: they wanted to hit, and so they hit the ground
Speaker 3: running with a speed. I mean, there is literally no
Speaker 3: precedent in American history for a president that has moved
Speaker 3: so fast, so many executive orders, so many actions, and listen,
Speaker 3: the vast majority I agree with are a couple of
Speaker 3: missteps that I think occurred. But you know what, I
Speaker 3: would describe this as a bias towards action versus a
Speaker 3: bias towards it action. And I'll take action. If you're
Speaker 3: moving fast, you make a few things. But they are
Speaker 3: moving And it's I joke, but it's actually the truth.
Speaker 3: I wake up every morning, I grab my cel phone
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what the hell did we do today? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And it is, I mean, it is fast moving.
Speaker 2: And in the early days, in the.
Speaker 5: Early days of this, it had the effect of overwhelming
Speaker 5: the opposition. Yes, the Democrats really didn't know what hit
Speaker 5: them for the first several weeks of what he was doing.
Speaker 5: And one reporter told me that I interviewed she said,
Speaker 5: we don't know what to cover every day because.
Speaker 2: There's so much we don't know where to start. That
Speaker 2: was the point.
Speaker 5: He overwhelmed the forces that normally try to engulf and
Speaker 5: suck under any Republican administration.
Speaker 3: So you and I met twenty five years ago when
Speaker 3: we were both young staffers and the George W. Bush administration.
Speaker 3: You were in the White House, and we've known each
Speaker 3: other a long time. And I actually came up with
Speaker 3: this theory then, which is there is a quantum of
Speaker 3: outrage in the media, and I call it the arsenic quantum.
Speaker 3: So if you remember, in two thousand and one, George W.
Speaker 3: Bush becomes president and one of the first things that
Speaker 3: happens is the EPA repeals a rule from the Democrat
Speaker 3: administration concerning the percentage of arsenic that could be at
Speaker 3: a water and it went from I don't know, like
Speaker 3: four million parts per gallon or whatever it was to
Speaker 3: five million parts per gallon. I mean, it was an
Speaker 3: infinitesimal shift, but the media lost their ever loving mind,
Speaker 3: and for about three months, every media story was George W.
Speaker 3: Bush wants to put arsenic in your water to poison
Speaker 3: your kids, and I mean their hair was on fire.
Speaker 3: They were losing their minds. And I think one of
Speaker 3: the things that the tru President Trump has understood, particularly
Speaker 3: the second term, that's all the outrage there is. So
Speaker 3: if you do one hundred things and a hundred things
Speaker 3: that are incredibly consequential, you get the arsenic quantum of outrage.
Speaker 3: They're still they scream, but they don't know what to
Speaker 3: hit because they're moving so fast on so many fronts.
Speaker 3: They're repealing regulations, they're implementing policies that the media are
Speaker 3: just frustrated out of their mind. You're living on CNN.
Speaker 3: Do you see that on a daily basis?
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean every day you're going to get some
Speaker 5: outrage about some I mean today, the guy had a
Speaker 5: three hour cabinet meeting.
Speaker 3: YEP.
Speaker 5: So I showed up over there this afternoon and for
Speaker 5: like six seconds of the three hours, he closed his
Speaker 5: eyes listening to Marco Rubio talk about something. And they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: Donald Trump slept through a cabinet meeting. He literally conducted
Speaker 5: a three hour meeting. He held a press conference at
Speaker 5: the end of it.
Speaker 2: This is crazy.
Speaker 5: And so yes, they have to pick something and try
Speaker 5: to generate outrage, whether it's warranted or not. I will
Speaker 5: tell you I think in this book and my recollections
Speaker 5: of the first part of the year, the outrage was
Speaker 5: almost all directed towards these immigrats stories. Yeah, particularly the
Speaker 5: Kilmer Obrego Garcia case.
Speaker 2: And that's so.
Speaker 3: Tell me, do you think it is a good political
Speaker 3: judgment for Democrats to say our party wants more illegal alien,
Speaker 3: violent gang member, wife abusing human trafficking criminals in America,
Speaker 3: and if you elect us, the Democrats, we will bring
Speaker 3: MS thirteen to your neighborhood. Like, help me explain, Help
Speaker 3: me understand the reasoning behind a party that says, let's
Speaker 3: go have dakeries with MS thirteen gang bangers and say
Speaker 3: we're for bringing them into your community.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm only moderately good at math. But no, I don't
Speaker 5: think that is a great political strategy. But you know,
Speaker 5: I also think they're doing it again on this narco
Speaker 5: terrorist issue. I mean, you've got people out here, you know,
Speaker 5: buying into the idea that these poor Venezuelan fishermen, you know,
Speaker 5: have fallen under the gaze of Don Trump.
Speaker 3: You look at the loud style fasherman. Fisherman don't have
Speaker 3: twelve kilos of.
Speaker 5: Coke in their boat and then you know, on top
Speaker 5: of that sort of basically.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's one hundred kilos of coke. I don't even
Speaker 3: know how much they have, but it ain't good.
Speaker 5: And also threatening these I mean essentially that like Mark
Speaker 5: Kelly and others are saying, now, look, if you follow
Speaker 5: the president's orders, we may come back to you in
Speaker 5: a few years and retroactively decide that you broke the law,
Speaker 5: and we will come after you if you help the
Speaker 5: president serve as the legitimately elected commander in chief. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's what they're It's all about throwing sand in the gears,
Speaker 5: shut down the government to keep him from operating, get
Speaker 5: military people to stop obeying orders, to keep him from
Speaker 5: operating his commander in chief. That's the outrage that is
Speaker 5: coming out of their base. It's it's the demand, like
Speaker 5: you must stop him because we still don't give him
Speaker 5: as legitimate.
Speaker 3: They're the party of hate, Like the unifying theme of
Speaker 3: the Democrat Party is they hate, hate, hate Donald J. Trump,
Speaker 3: and and it's performance theater each one of them. The
Speaker 3: shutdown happened because Chuck Schumer and the Democrats had to
Speaker 3: show they hate him, Yes, and it is. Listen, I've
Speaker 3: been in the Senate thirteen years. This is the stupidest
Speaker 3: shutdown I've ever seen because it had no objective other
Speaker 3: than simply demonstrating we hate Trump. And look you see
Speaker 3: it on CNN. I mean, I mean, I actually really
Speaker 3: like your book, A Revolution of common Sense. You know
Speaker 3: it used to be all right, So there's a very
Speaker 3: common As you talk to people just across the country,
Speaker 3: there are a lot of folks that will say both
Speaker 3: parties have gotten to extreme, and that sounds very reasonable.
Speaker 3: Like if you're sitting around at the dinner table and
Speaker 3: you say that, that makes you seem very reasoned, very moderate.
Speaker 3: And I'll say to folks like, look, I get why
Speaker 3: you're saying that. That feels like it makes sense. I
Speaker 3: just don't think it's true.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 3: And if you look at the two parties, one part
Speaker 3: of the Democrat Party has gone backcrap crazy. I mean
Speaker 3: they've embraced policies complete open borders, embracing human traffickers and
Speaker 3: narco terrorists, abolishing the police, boys and girls, sports mutilizing
Speaker 3: little boys and little girls like these are extreme rat
Speaker 3: embracing hamas, celebrating anti Semitic protesters, Like, it's almost like
Speaker 3: every issue that's eighty twenty. Yes, they went across the
Speaker 3: bard and said, let's take the twenty. Let's take the twenty.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's ninety ten.
Speaker 2: And why because Trump's on the eighty.
Speaker 3: And if you look at the other side, and I'll
Speaker 3: say to people over dinner, I'll say, look, what are
Speaker 3: Trump's policy positions? Secure the border, cut taxes, cut job
Speaker 3: killing regulations, support small businesses, support the police, protect our families,
Speaker 3: support the constitution, and the Bill of.
Speaker 2: Rights, welfare reform.
Speaker 3: Like those are mainstream, middle of the road positions. Those
Speaker 3: are not crazy right wing positions. Those are common sense.
Speaker 3: And what's amazing is the Democrats have abandoned the middle
Speaker 3: of the of the field. They've abandoned the middle ground. Now,
Speaker 3: sometimes the rhetoric is a little hot, so the sort
Speaker 3: of both sides are two extreme. I do wish occasionally
Speaker 3: the rhetoric would ratchet back a little bit, but the
Speaker 3: actual substance of the policies, and I got to say,
Speaker 3: even when I'm sitting down with lefties that they don't
Speaker 3: have a good response, like what policies is Trump implementing
Speaker 3: that are extreme? Well, he's deporting illegal aliens, you know,
Speaker 3: you mean like Barack Obama, who deported millions of illegal aliens.
Speaker 3: Like he's actually going and arresting murderers and rapists and
Speaker 3: child molesters and gang mayors. That ain't extreme. So my
Speaker 3: question to you, number one, do you agree with that?
Speaker 3: And since you've been nodding emphatically, I kind of assumed
Speaker 3: that the answers yes, But I'm not nodding. Off you
Speaker 3: close your eyes for a second. And by the way,
Speaker 3: I have that effect a lot. I put people to sleep,
Speaker 3: So feel free to not off. But if you agree,
Speaker 3: here's my real question why, Like, if you're imagine for
Speaker 3: a second you're in the ninth circle of Dante's Inferno
Speaker 3: and you are Chuck Schumer's chief political advisor, why would
Speaker 3: you do this? Like, what's the reasoning that? Presumably they
Speaker 3: think this makes sense? So what would what would a
Speaker 3: Democrat strategist say that would justify this.
Speaker 5: Well, it's very simple fear, and they operate out of fear.
Speaker 5: I mean during the shutdown, which you're exactly right, this
Speaker 5: was the most pointless exercise. One of your colleagues anonymously
Speaker 5: told a newspaper, Oh, we have plenty of votes to
Speaker 5: open the government, but none of us want to face
Speaker 5: the guillotine.
Speaker 3: Their words, Yeah, their words.
Speaker 5: So they're using the language of the French Revolution to
Speaker 5: describe their own political base. They operate only out of fear,
Speaker 5: not principle, not ideas. It's strictly operating out of fear,
Speaker 5: and it's also strictly operating out of hate. I totally
Speaker 5: agree with you, and this this is something about the
Speaker 5: book that I've picked up on. If Trump has sort
Speaker 5: of an idea of like what the eighties are and
Speaker 5: he knows, they will reflexively pick the twenties because he
Speaker 5: picked the eighties. Whether it's secure the border or get
Speaker 5: rid of paper straws, either way, it's going to drive
Speaker 5: Democrats into a silly position. I, for one, want toilets
Speaker 5: that can't flush and don't have enough water to actually
Speaker 5: remove your your waist, like, like.
Speaker 1: Who the heck is that an eighty twenty or is
Speaker 1: that a ninety ten issue?
Speaker 3: That would be a ninety ten okay, that don't disintegrate
Speaker 3: in your mouth, Toilets that can remove your extrement, and
Speaker 3: like light bulbs that can turn on, like.
Speaker 5: There may be a dark niche corner of the Internet
Speaker 5: that takes the other side of the toilet issue. But
Speaker 5: most people, most people would like more water.
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Speaker 4: Scott. I want to ask you your question.
Speaker 3: Quick as side hold on part of Verdict is bringing
Speaker 3: you inside the Senate. So I'm going to tell you
Speaker 3: a funny story. So when the Democrats, when Harry Reid
Speaker 3: had the majority, just off the Senate floor, there is
Speaker 3: a restroom that is the senator's restroom, and when the
Speaker 3: Democrats took over, they replaced the toilet paper with little
Speaker 3: square strips of Kleenex. And it was the most frustrating.
Speaker 3: I assume it's some lefty environmentalist idea that like a
Speaker 3: tiny little like four by four square is what you
Speaker 3: would pull off one at a time. And it was infuriating.
Speaker 3: And that's what the.
Speaker 1: Democrats are saving the environment, sir, You were saving the
Speaker 1: environment one square at a time.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: So when we retook the Senate in twenty fourteen, Richard
Speaker 3: Shelby became the chairman of the Rules Committee, Republican from Alabama.
Speaker 3: Richard is a good guy. It's good friend, and I'm
Speaker 3: on the rolls Committee. I came to Richard. I said, okay, Richard,
Speaker 3: I got a simple request, and could you put some
Speaker 3: friggin toilet paper in the restroom that actually works? And
Speaker 3: like two weeks later, I go to the restroom and
Speaker 3: there's a roll of toilet paper there, and I will confess.
Speaker 3: I went to Richard. I said, Richard, I've got your
Speaker 3: reelection campaign slogan. You need to make a bumper sticker
Speaker 3: right now, Richard Shelby, he gets shipped done.
Speaker 2: And I will confess.
Speaker 3: Even when Schumer took over, he did not return to
Speaker 3: the little squares of paper and it remains remains fixed
Speaker 3: to this day. But why is that complicated? And yet
Speaker 3: for the Democrats? Like, all right, is there any person
Speaker 3: on earth that does not hate a paper straw that
Speaker 3: disintegrates in your mouth and doesn't actually serve the function
Speaker 3: of taking the liquid in your cup?
Speaker 1: All right, So you're gonna as The only one I
Speaker 1: hate more than that is the bamboo straw that cracks
Speaker 1: every single time.
Speaker 5: The paper straw story, which I tell in the book.
Speaker 5: Actually I was in the Oval office today he signed
Speaker 5: the executive.
Speaker 2: Order on paper straws. It.
Speaker 5: It was something funny actually when I was in there,
Speaker 5: like some aid came in. He said, mister President, I
Speaker 5: just found out they're still using paper straws in the
Speaker 5: White House.
Speaker 2: Mess He said something like, well, I guess they still
Speaker 2: had a few left over, you know, from Biden or whatever.
Speaker 5: But I tell the story of that paper straw because
Speaker 5: it's it's even more absurd than you think. Number One,
Speaker 5: they got the idea for paper straws because like a
Speaker 5: little kid gave a school report one day claiming that
Speaker 5: Americans were using like tens of millions of plastic straws
Speaker 5: and they were going in the ocean.
Speaker 2: It was completely fabricated.
Speaker 5: And then the other thing about paper straws is that
Speaker 5: they actually contain lots of these like chemicals and plastics
Speaker 5: in the paper straws that you ingest because they dissolve
Speaker 5: in the water. So it's terrible for you and it's
Speaker 5: terrible for the environment.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard that, but I can believe that.
Speaker 2: Yes, and so.
Speaker 5: But because this kid one day in his like elementary school,
Speaker 5: gave some report about supposed plastic straws in the ocean,
Speaker 5: Democrats adopted this cause of banning plastic straws. And Donald Trump.
Speaker 5: It took Donald Trump winning an election to finally bring.
Speaker 3: Back all right, So let me ask you, it's amazing
Speaker 3: a decade from now now, what is going to be
Speaker 3: the legacy of Donald J. Trump. What are people going
Speaker 3: to remember from the Trump presidency?
Speaker 5: Broad macro foreign policy wins, bringing peace to all the
Speaker 5: corners of planet Earth. I think he has been the
Speaker 5: most consequential foreign policy.
Speaker 3: So why what has But I agree with you, But
Speaker 3: what has been consequential? What has mattered?
Speaker 5: Well, what has mattered is you now have a strong
Speaker 5: American president who's willing to engage. I mean, this was
Speaker 5: the great failing of Biden. He was weak, and he
Speaker 5: was indecisive, and he didn't fundamentally believe in engagement. And
Speaker 5: they didn't trust him. The other players on the board
Speaker 5: didn't trust him, and they didn't really care what he
Speaker 5: had to say, and so he weren't afraid of him. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and that's a dangerous thing. I think our enemies should
Speaker 5: be afraid of the commander in chief. And I will
Speaker 5: tell you.
Speaker 3: I talk with our allies, I talk with with our adversaries,
Speaker 3: and our enemies are afraid of Donald J. Trump. That's
Speaker 3: a good thing. I want Iran afraid of Trump. I
Speaker 3: want North Korea afraid of Trump. I want Venezuela afraid
Speaker 3: of Trump. I want Cuba afraid of Trump. I want
Speaker 3: China afraid of Trump. And look, it goes back to
Speaker 3: when Reagan was president. The philosophy of peace through strength,
Speaker 3: that is what Trump is implementing. And I will say
Speaker 3: there's a debate in our policy, in our party. There
Speaker 3: are some who are arguing, oh, Trump is an isolationist.
Speaker 3: He's never been an isolation never. He's not interested in
Speaker 3: extending in unnecessary foreign wars. And I agree with him
Speaker 3: in that, and he has been ending wars, which is
Speaker 3: the right thing. But look, he stands up to our
Speaker 3: enemies in one of the great faults. Both the isolationists
Speaker 3: left and the isolationists right believes that if you don't
Speaker 3: engage with your enemies, it will produce peace. History stands
Speaker 3: to the contrary. I pointed out there's a reason nobody
Speaker 3: studies at the Nevill Chamberlain School of Foreign fiew like
Speaker 3: appeasement doesn't work. And if you want to avoid war,
Speaker 3: the best way to do it is to be so
Speaker 3: strong that your enemies are terrified as screwing with you.
Speaker 3: And Trump is doing a fabulous job of doing that.
Speaker 3: And the difference between Biden and Trump is weakness versus strength,
Speaker 3: and weakness produces war and strength produces peace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this will be an enduring legacy for him.
Speaker 5: And you know, we talk about war and peace a lot,
Speaker 5: and that's the phrase we may just talk about peace
Speaker 5: and war because he is a peace president, yes, and
Speaker 5: he's for smart engagement, but he's not for adventurism.
Speaker 2: I think that's one. Number two.
Speaker 5: I mean, clearly he showed us how to enforce current
Speaker 5: immigration laws. That's a legacy. And number three, I think
Speaker 5: what they're doing on AI actually putting the United States
Speaker 5: in the position to win the AI race, to produce
Speaker 5: enough energy to win it. That is going to be
Speaker 5: talked about ten, fifteen, twenty years from today. Did we
Speaker 5: do what we had to do to defeat China? I
Speaker 5: think we are. I think most of our tech companies
Speaker 5: think we are. And so if that comes to pass,
Speaker 5: those are three pretty great legacies.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the third one for a second.
Speaker 3: So on AI. AI is an issue I care about
Speaker 3: a lot, and I agree with you that we are
Speaker 3: in a race. AI is coming and either the United
Speaker 3: States is gonna win or China's gonna win. And I
Speaker 3: think the world is much much worse off if China wins,
Speaker 3: and it's much better off of America wins. I will
Speaker 3: tell you the polling on AI is terrible. AI is
Speaker 3: unpopular in America. If you do almost any polling. I
Speaker 3: use it's about seventy thirty. People are terrified. They're afraid
Speaker 3: they're going to lose their jobs. They don't trust it,
Speaker 3: they're scared of it. And I get that, And in fact,
Speaker 3: I talk with a lot of the tech leaders and
Speaker 3: I say, look, if you don't engage on this issue,
Speaker 3: the easy political outcome. Every Democrat and a number of
Speaker 3: Republicans are like, AI is horrible, We oppose it, and
Speaker 3: that if you look at the polling, that's that's the
Speaker 3: knee jerk response. I get that fear. I understand anytime
Speaker 3: you have economic disloke, it is frightening, it is dangerous.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I'm not a lot.
Speaker 3: I don't think you can stop technological advancement. I'll give
Speaker 3: you an example. If I could right now destroy every
Speaker 3: cell phone in America, I would. I think these are
Speaker 3: evil portals to everything harmful in the world. All three
Speaker 3: of us are parents. These things invite every horrible force
Speaker 3: to our children. But we don't live in that world.
Speaker 3: We can't end that. I'd also like a world with
Speaker 3: no nuclear weapons. Like if I could push a button
Speaker 3: and every nuclear weapon disappear, I would, But we don't
Speaker 3: live in that world. And if we're going to live
Speaker 3: in a world with nuclear weapons, I sure want to
Speaker 3: make sure the United States has enough that China and Russian,
Speaker 3: our enemies, can't dominate US. I view AI in the
Speaker 3: same world, even if you don't want it to happen.
Speaker 3: It is coming, and one of two outcomes will occur
Speaker 3: in five to ten years. Either China will have won
Speaker 3: the race, in which case AI worldwide will reflect China's
Speaker 3: values will be totalitarian, controlling will be censoring, will reflect
Speaker 3: the values of communists China, or America will have one,
Speaker 3: in which case, hopefully AI will reflect American values of freedom,
Speaker 3: free enterprise, free speech. That is a massive shift between
Speaker 3: those two worlds. World two is much better, where America wins.
Speaker 3: Two questions. Number one, do you agree with that? And
Speaker 3: number two? If so, how does the politics change? Do
Speaker 3: you agree with my point that right now the politics
Speaker 3: is against AI and that is dangerous?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 5: First of all on point one. I agree with everything
Speaker 5: you said about which world we want to live in.
Speaker 5: Number two, I agree with you on the polling, and
Speaker 5: I think people have a healthier fear of how this
Speaker 5: is going to upend their life and reasonable and which
Speaker 5: is a reasonable fear? And so the next iteration of
Speaker 5: this march towards AI is going to have to be
Speaker 5: not how it's going to make your life worse?
Speaker 2: How's it going to make your life better?
Speaker 5: How is any other technological evolution all stimately made your
Speaker 5: life better? And so that explanation has to come. And
Speaker 5: then point four is just going to be how are
Speaker 5: we going to power it all? And you know, are
Speaker 5: we going to be able to produce enough energy to
Speaker 5: do what we have to do now?
Speaker 2: Plus what we.
Speaker 3: Have to do AI is energy, and if we don't
Speaker 3: not leash energy, we cannot win the race FRAEI.
Speaker 5: One other issue on this that is on my mind
Speaker 5: is how are we going to build enough of these
Speaker 5: data centers to win this thing? I'm noticing in local
Speaker 5: communities in a lot of places, folks are like rising
Speaker 5: up against data center development.
Speaker 3: So the polling is terrible in most communities. But I
Speaker 3: will say, by the way, one of the few exceptions
Speaker 3: is sort of West Texas. You've got West Texas in
Speaker 3: the Panhandle and you're seeing a ton of data centers
Speaker 3: come in there, and Texans are like, all right, we
Speaker 3: want jobs, we want investment. We want billions in investment,
Speaker 3: and there'll be jobs for construction, there'll be jobs for
Speaker 3: running the data centers. Look, I think in dense urban
Speaker 3: areas people are afraid. They're afraid it will suck power,
Speaker 3: it will drive up their electricity prices, it will suck water,
Speaker 3: And I get those fears. Look, anyone, if you're given
Speaker 3: a choice, do you want something that will make your
Speaker 3: life worse or better? People are naturally going to say,
Speaker 3: I don't want something that makes my life worse. And so.
Speaker 1: I think the guy by the way, Sentata, I had
Speaker 1: a guy the other day that said to me in
Speaker 1: the AI industry, he said, the hardest part for them
Speaker 1: now is overcoming what you're describing, because he said they're
Speaker 1: polling that internally says that the fear and a lot
Speaker 1: of parts of the country right now are at the
Speaker 1: level of where they were with nuclear reactors back in
Speaker 1: the eighties.
Speaker 3: Yes, interesting now, and there's been a lot of demagoguay
Speaker 3: and but there's also the demagoguery is there. But I
Speaker 3: will say the fears of AI are real and justified.
Speaker 3: And all right, Look, with every great technological change, there's
Speaker 3: been economic dislocation. So when the automobile was invented, the
Speaker 3: horse and buggy industry was decimated, and if you were
Speaker 3: in the buggy business, you were screwed. The difference with
Speaker 3: AI is twofold. Number One, the volume is greater. I
Speaker 3: think there are going to be more jobs that are
Speaker 3: going to be threatened by AI than have been in
Speaker 3: previous technological innovations. Number two, it's a different contour of jobs.
Speaker 3: So often in the past it's been blue collar jobs
Speaker 3: that have been at risk. Many of the jobs that
Speaker 3: are at risk with AI are white collar jobs. There
Speaker 3: if you look at Mondami, part of what elected Mandami
Speaker 3: is you have young college graduates who have two hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars in college debt who were told I can
Speaker 3: go and be an investment banker, a consultant, or an accountant,
Speaker 3: and they're seeing those jobs being eliminated as AI is
Speaker 3: replacing thousands and thousands of those jobs. That's a level
Speaker 3: of I guess I would call elite discontent that is
Speaker 3: politically complicated and so and I get those concerns are
Speaker 3: very real. If you've gone and worked hard, and you've
Speaker 3: got a degree, and you took out loans and you
Speaker 3: were told this is what I got to do, and
Speaker 3: then suddenly you come out and you can't get a job,
Speaker 3: you're pissed like. That's a very real concern. And so
Speaker 3: I actually think as policy makers, as people in an
Speaker 3: elected office, we need to have real solutions to that
Speaker 3: problem because that disc content is not illegitimate, but it
Speaker 3: is driving much of this resistance, and it's a very
Speaker 3: real battle.
Speaker 5: We've got, well and you have now, for you know,
Speaker 5: many years, people teaching their children here's the course you
Speaker 5: got to get on. If you well in school, go
Speaker 5: to college, you can get one of these white collar jobs.
Speaker 5: And you know, for you know, a few generation we've
Speaker 5: been telling people this is the path. It may not
Speaker 5: be the path anymore. We're going to have to reorient
Speaker 5: how we're educating kids, what we're teaching them to do,
Speaker 5: What other skills can we teach them to do. I
Speaker 5: agree with you on the white collar versus blue collar issue.
Speaker 5: Also creatives, I mean I speaked out. I've seen Ai
Speaker 5: apps and a matter of seconds write songs that sounded
Speaker 5: like they had a whole team of musicians and writers
Speaker 5: over weeks putting them together in California, And it literally
Speaker 5: happened on my phone in a matter of seconds.
Speaker 3: By the way, I'll tell you in politics, it's interesting.
Speaker 3: I'll pull up AI and I'll ask something like, what
Speaker 3: has Cruz said on the following issue? And listen, I've
Speaker 3: been doing this a long time, so I don't remember
Speaker 3: every comment I've given in every newspaper interview ten years ago,
Speaker 3: and in like four seconds it comes out with he
Speaker 3: said this here, he said this here, and it like
Speaker 3: traces and it's like.
Speaker 4: It's insane.
Speaker 3: It is insane. The ability of power you have on
Speaker 3: your cell phone.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean, and it's basically free. I mean
Speaker 5: information for the first time in human history is basically
Speaker 5: accessible to all and free to all and instant. And yeah,
Speaker 5: it's I can see why the pulling on this is bad. Now,
Speaker 5: the positive outlook here is how can we use these
Speaker 5: tools to make your life easy, make you more productive,
Speaker 5: and maybe make you more economically successful. Maybe you haven't
Speaker 5: conceived of how that will work yet, but that's the
Speaker 5: challenge of these companies that are developing the technology.
Speaker 3: Well, in past, technological inventions that have increased productivity have
Speaker 3: created brand new jobs, created grand, brand new focuses, and
Speaker 3: so dislocation doesn't mean that people lose jobs forever. But
Speaker 3: it is complicated. All right. Let me ask you this. Yep,
Speaker 3: you're listening to this podcast right now. You're trying to
Speaker 3: decide do I buy Scott Jennings' book. What's the sixty
Speaker 3: second pitch for why you right now should go on Amazon.
Speaker 3: As you're listening to this, click on and buy the book.
Speaker 3: What's the most powerful reason to buy the book?
Speaker 5: Because most of the political narrative and information narrative you
Speaker 5: get on Trump, I think is totally misguided.
Speaker 2: A lot of it's false.
Speaker 5: This is a true inside account of how Donald Trump
Speaker 5: retook power, what he did with that power, how he
Speaker 5: overcame the interest to execute on the promises that he made.
Speaker 5: I think you'll see some eye popping quotes in here
Speaker 5: from people like Marco Rubio, Scott Bessen, and Elon Musk,
Speaker 5: who I interviewed on his one hundred and first day
Speaker 5: in office, and I could tell by the way he
Speaker 5: was bent out of shape that day and really worried
Speaker 5: about the future of Western civilization. I didn't know he
Speaker 5: was going to have his dramatic momentary break.
Speaker 3: But how quickly after your interview did that happen?
Speaker 2: Just a couple of weeks. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was day one oh one, and of course he
Speaker 2: got been out of shape.
Speaker 3: So I was actually sitting in the Oval office when
Speaker 3: Elon like really unloaded on Trump and unloaded on Twitter,
Speaker 3: and it was I will say, I was having a
Speaker 3: meeting with Trump on school choice, where I had brought
Speaker 3: Byron Donald's and Burgess Owen's in and We're in the
Speaker 3: middle of the one big, beautiful bill, and I was
Speaker 3: trying to make the case, mister President, there's nothing we
Speaker 3: can do that's more important in this bill than school choice.
Speaker 3: This will be a legacy. I said, if we get
Speaker 3: this done, you will go down in history. Your critics
Speaker 3: will never acknowledge this, but you will go down in
Speaker 3: history as the greatest civil rights president of our lifetimes.
Speaker 3: We ended up getting it done, so we adopted the
Speaker 3: school choice provision that I wrote. But in the middle
Speaker 3: of that meeting, as I'm pitching it to Elon sent
Speaker 3: I will say his most aggressive tweet against Trump. And
Speaker 3: so Trump is actually not on his phone a ton.
Speaker 3: So when you're in the Oval, they will print out
Speaker 3: tweets on a piece of paper and they will hand
Speaker 3: it to him, and they handed it to him, and look,
Speaker 3: Elon is a very good friend. President Trump is a
Speaker 3: very good friend. I will say when that particular tweet
Speaker 3: came out, he was pissed and our meeting was done.
Speaker 3: We were there for another half hour, but our discussion
Speaker 3: topic was gone because he was like unloading. So it
Speaker 3: was And I'm very glad I spent a lot of
Speaker 3: time with both President Trump and Elon. I'm very glad
Speaker 3: that that acrimony has diminished substantially in that they've come
Speaker 3: back together, because I think they're both incredibly important leaders
Speaker 3: for the country, and I think we're better off if
Speaker 3: they're rowing together than if they're antagonist.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the day that they had their break, I was
Speaker 5: on CNN when it happened. I picked up a garbage
Speaker 5: can and I put my head in it live on
Speaker 5: the air to mimic how I thought all Republicans were feeling.
Speaker 5: Because when they joined forces, yes, they worked together to
Speaker 5: do nothing less than begin the process of saving the West.
Speaker 3: Amen.
Speaker 5: If we had not won the November twenty twenty four election,
Speaker 5: we would be on a death spiral for the future
Speaker 5: of the West.
Speaker 2: Trump is our leader in this. Elon knows it.
Speaker 5: He's worried about our fiscal situation, the mass migration crisis,
Speaker 5: the birth rate crisis, and all these things converging to
Speaker 5: destroy the West.
Speaker 2: He knows that.
Speaker 5: I think Trump and the Republicans are the only vehicle
Speaker 5: to save it. And so when they had their break,
Speaker 5: I mean it was a it was a vomit inducing moment,
Speaker 5: but it appears to me that they're rea and by
Speaker 5: the way, on much better footing.
Speaker 3: Seeing the two of them come back together was important.
Speaker 3: And listen, nobody who knows the two of them well
Speaker 3: thought that the romance was going to last forever. So
Speaker 3: the first several months where they were just like bosom buddies.
Speaker 3: They're both alpha males. They every room they have been
Speaker 3: in for the last thirty years, everyone in the room
Speaker 3: has deferred to them and kissed the rear ends. And
Speaker 3: you didn't have to be the most sophisticated analyst of
Speaker 3: human nature to say, Okay, that's probably not going to
Speaker 3: last forever as a harmonious when they're both used to
Speaker 3: being the guy the a dog. That's going to end.
Speaker 3: I don't think any of us envisioned it would end
Speaker 3: quite so spectacularly in a technicolor manner. I think most
Speaker 3: of us figured, Okay, they'll come a point where they say,
Speaker 3: all right, let's just go our separate ways and do
Speaker 3: our things. But and the good news is it got
Speaker 3: really ugly. And by the way, I use the analogy
Speaker 3: that I felt, like, you know, the children of divorced
Speaker 3: parents saying, I wish mommy and daddy would stop fighting
Speaker 3: because it like it was, it was painful. Because they're
Speaker 3: both I admire.
Speaker 5: Them, both agree I'm the same way. I've defended them
Speaker 5: both on television. And the attacks Elon faced for the
Speaker 5: sin of supporting a Republican and choosing to do public service,
Speaker 5: that was his only sin.
Speaker 3: And by the way, Elon demonstrates the utter hypocrisy of
Speaker 3: the left. So the left for a decade has been
Speaker 3: saying that climate change is destroying the world and nothing
Speaker 3: matters more. We should produce massive human poverty to stop
Speaker 3: climate change because if we don't, humanity will be extinct.
Speaker 3: That's been their talking point for a decade. Sheldon Whitehouse
Speaker 3: gives a damn speech on the Senate floor every single
Speaker 3: week for years. I have presided during those they make
Speaker 3: your eyes want to bleed, they're so bad. Elon Musk
Speaker 3: has produced more electric vehicles than any human being who
Speaker 3: has ever lived. Like, if you actually believe their rhetoric
Speaker 3: about climate change, the left should be carving Elon's face
Speaker 3: into Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1: But so they were firebombing Tesla doers. They were firebombing
Speaker 1: so damaged to because.
Speaker 3: He supported Trump and who cares. Like every word they
Speaker 3: said about climate change was all garbage. If you support Trump,
Speaker 3: you must be destroyed. And it demonstrated the absolute hypocrisy
Speaker 3: the left. And I gotta say, Scott, I commend you
Speaker 3: because you work on CNN every day. You like you
Speaker 3: swim in that hypocrisy. And what you do a nice
Speaker 3: job of doing is you're not mean or bitter about it.
Speaker 3: You do it with a slightly amused you're full of crap.
Speaker 3: And look, if you were mean and punching him the face,
Speaker 3: it wouldn't work. But you do it more gently, and
Speaker 3: it is devastating and beautiful.
Speaker 5: These are the lessons of President Reagan. We're all happy warriors.
Speaker 5: We argue best when we argue with a smile on
Speaker 5: our face and a little bit of humor and a
Speaker 5: little bit of self reflection. And I found those debating
Speaker 5: tactics to be of great use on CNN. I think
Speaker 5: we're reaching people. I'll give you one other reason to
Speaker 5: buy this book. Everybody has a relative that's like totally
Speaker 5: lost to Trump derangement syndrome. I'll give you a piece
Speaker 5: of advice. You buy this book and wrap it up
Speaker 5: and put another Christmas tree. It'll be the most memorable
Speaker 5: Christmas you ever had.
Speaker 3: All Right, So the book is a revolution of common sense.
Speaker 3: How Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for Western civilization
Speaker 3: is by Scott Jennings. We are at the beginning of December.
Speaker 3: Christmas time is coming up. So I'm going to say,
Speaker 3: don't just buy one by two, three four, Buy it
Speaker 3: for your crazy uncle Joe, buy it for your kids.
Speaker 3: Go buy the book. It is a great thing. I
Speaker 3: will say it is almost as good before Ben Ferguson,
Speaker 3: the Great Ben Ferguson. The previous co host of my
Speaker 3: podcast was Michael Knowles. His first book was What is
Speaker 3: It All? The Wisdom of the Democrats? I think is
Speaker 3: what it was entitled. The book.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was an empty book.
Speaker 3: The sob has made hundreds of thousands of dollars selling
Speaker 3: a blank book, empty book genius, and he continues to
Speaker 3: sell it. People go buy Michael every Christmas.
Speaker 1: Christmas, Michael Knowles gets a great check and I'm proud
Speaker 1: of that check he gets because people buy it for
Speaker 1: their crazy kid or their crazy daughter's boyfriend who's a
Speaker 1: woke liberal out there.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: I will say the last book I wrote, I did
Speaker 3: inscribe to Michael on the blank front page. I said,
Speaker 3: I apologize, but I did plagiarize this page from your book.
Speaker 3: That's great, So by Scott's book by Mouppies.
Speaker 1: Grab the book wherever you can on Amazon, buy it
Speaker 1: for your family friends.
Speaker 4: It's an awesome book.
Speaker 1: One thing I'll say about the book that I personally
Speaker 1: think you're going to really like is the fact that
Speaker 1: he talks about the cabinet members and what they had
Speaker 1: to say. I think it's going to go down in
Speaker 1: history is the most the biggest secret weapon of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump is going to be this cabinet and how they
Speaker 1: work so well with him. You get a lot of
Speaker 1: what they had to say in the book as well,
Speaker 1: because you sit down with those cabinet member Scott. I
Speaker 1: think that's probably one of the coolest parts of the
Speaker 1: aspect of this book.
Speaker 4: So grab that as well. That's a really fun part.
Speaker 3: And listen for our listeners. I will apologize in the
Speaker 3: picture section of the book, Scott does include naked pictures
Speaker 3: of him in Nantucket. I'm sorry for that, but you know, look,
Speaker 3: you gotta do what you can to sell a book. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this photo shoot for that was actually quite amazing. Useless
Speaker 3: all right, I want the record to record. I've never
Speaker 3: seen Scott Jenny speechless, and I think for at least
Speaker 3: a half second.
Speaker 2: You were Yeah, we took those pictures on a warm day.
Speaker 3: What is that out of Seinfeld? The water is cold,
Speaker 3: but it was cold.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's great.
Speaker 4: Don't forget.
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