1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: with you and Senator, We're going to have a really 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: fun show today with a happy warrior, A good friend 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: of mine, a good friend of yours is going to 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: join us, a man that you know from probably going 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: viral on CNN. Scott Jennings is going to join us 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: to talk about a really cool book he's written where 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: he actually got to sit down multiple times with the 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: President and every one of the cabinet members to talk 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: about the inner workings of the President, what he's doing 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: to save the country. 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: We have a terrific guest on our show today, Scott Jennings, 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: the intrepid conservative warrior who goes on CNN every day. 15 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: He battles the crazy comedies on CNN. He does so 16 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 3: with a smile, he does so with a light touch. 17 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: He absolutely dominates the lefties. And he's written a brand 18 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: new book and the book is entitled A Revolution of 19 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: Common Sense How Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for 20 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: Western civilization. Here's the book. I would encourage you go 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: by it. 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I'm obviously in Houston. 59 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 4: This man. 60 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: I get to do battle with the comedies on CNN. 61 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Often they've stopped putting us together. I think that's on purpose. 62 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: I think they didn't like it was an unfair fight. 63 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: When you have the brilliant brain of Scott and then 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: you know I'm there as well. I'm not saying I'm brilliant, 65 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: but I'm saying it's a nice duo here. 66 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: But it's really fun. 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: To have Scott Dinnings with us on the podcast where 68 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: a really cool book he has put out. 69 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: Well, Ben, I will say, you spent seven years battling 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: the comedies on CNN and then I love you man, 71 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: But you ran scared for the hills. Ah. 72 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 4: You came to the. 73 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: Safe confines of the Verdict podcast swhere. Other than some 74 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: ridicule about old miss and you used to have a 75 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: football coach. Other than that, you avoid any confrontation. 76 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: Yes, outside of that, I'm Switzerland, as you put it, sir, 77 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: in Republican primaries. 78 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: So and I will say Scott Jennings has joined us. 79 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: I got to tell you Scott is on CNN now. 80 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: He is battling with these Bolshevik idiots and I actually 81 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: feel bad for them because like he is beating the 82 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: living crack out of them, and I watch I watch 83 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: the clips on Twitter. I'll confess I do not watch CNN, 84 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: so it's got to go viral for me to watch it. 85 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: If it's actually on TV, I won't turn the damn 86 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 3: thing on. But if you have a moment that is 87 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: ninety seconds that you're just like body slamming someone I 88 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: inject it like heroin into my veins. I mean, it 89 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 3: is so all right. And let's be clear. Why is 90 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: Scott here. He is here for the oldest reason in 91 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: the book. So it is eleven forty three at night. 92 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: This poor man has to get up at four in 93 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: the morning to fly on a plane to La correct. 94 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 3: He is here for one reason only. It's not that 95 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: he loves me. It's not that he loves Ben Ferguson. 96 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: Here because he is selling a damn book. 97 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 4: So it's a good one. 98 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: It's a good So his book is a revolution of 99 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: common sense, how Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for 100 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 3: Western civilization. And there's a great picture of Donald Trump 101 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: and a bright red tie. So go buy his book. 102 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: His book is on Amazon, It's on Barnes and Noble. 103 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: I feel confident you can get it. And any place 104 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: books are sold, yes, sir, other than a lefty bookstore 105 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: in Cambridge, Massachusetts, they will not have this book, but 106 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: they will have how to be a transgender Witch and 107 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: study Marxism. So if you want that book, go to 108 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: that bookstore. But anywhere else you can get a revolution 109 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: and common sense. Scott, Welcome to Verdict. 110 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on, and it's a true story 111 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: about the bookstores. We've been setting up book tour events 112 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 5: around the country, so we'll call ahead and say, oh, 113 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 5: these people want to buy you a couple hundred books, 114 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 5: and we've been hung up on We've been told no. 115 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm like literally trying to filter, you know, 116 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 5: book purchases through your. 117 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: Bookstore, and they literally won't do it. 118 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 5: And so we talk about these lefties constantly complaining about 119 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 5: banning books. 120 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: The only one I ever. 121 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: Heard of was this one. 122 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: It would carry it, all right. 123 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 3: So how did you come? How did you start to be? 124 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: And Sea tell us the start of how this began. 125 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've actually been there for eight and a half years, 126 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 5: but for the first six years of it or so, 127 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 5: it was really very much a part time job for me. 128 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 5: I got recruited in twenty seventeen. I had done some 129 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 5: work on Fox News in the election in twenty sixteen. 130 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: They recruited me over because after Trump won and they 131 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 5: didn't expect it, they didn't have many conservatives been was there, 132 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 5: he knows, and so they were looking for a few 133 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 5: people who could explain what was going on, and so 134 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 5: I did it. It was very part time. But then in 135 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 5: the twenty twenty four election and the advent of this 136 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 5: debating show, it's become a much bigger part of my life. 137 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: So I've been a long time. 138 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 5: Member of the family, but lately it's taken up a 139 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 5: big percentage of my life. 140 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: Scott, I want to ask you real quick about this book. 141 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: And the cool part about this book is a lot 142 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: of people write books, but one of the things is 143 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: you actually talked to the White House the President about 144 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: writing the book and them cooperating with you to do 145 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: this book. 146 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 4: How did that come about? 147 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: Who did you get to sit with How often did 148 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: you get talk to the President to come up with 149 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: all of the material in it? 150 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I went to see him in February. You know 151 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 5: this title, a revolution of common Sense is a phrase 152 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 5: that he used in his inaugural address. I was sitting 153 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 5: on the set at CNN listening to the speech, thinking 154 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 5: that would be a good title for a book, and 155 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 5: so I went to pitch a president on it. Truthfully, 156 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 5: I didn't really know him. I talked about him a lot, 157 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 5: but it hadn't spent any time with him. So I 158 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 5: went to meet with him in early February and thought 159 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 5: I was meeting with him alone. I went into the 160 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 5: Oval office, and the whole cabinet and the staff were there, 161 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 5: so I sort of got inserted into one of these 162 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 5: famous meetings where it's like six meetings at the same time, 163 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 5: and we spent some time together. And I just told 164 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 5: him that day, like, I think one hundred of the 165 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 5: usual suspects are going to come along and write books 166 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: crapping on you. I think someone who likes you and 167 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 5: voted for you and wants you to succeed, should, you know, 168 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: get a chance to cooperate with you about a book 169 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 5: about what you're trying to accomplish here and the obstacles 170 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 5: that you face. I told him, I thought he revolutionized 171 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 5: campaigning in twenty twenty four, and he was about to 172 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 5: revolutionize governing, and that it would be a good opportunity 173 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 5: to tell the story to you know, half or a 174 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 5: little more than half the country that doesn't get that 175 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: much good news or you know, true narrative about what's 176 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 5: going on out of his White House. 177 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: And so we discussed it. He agreed. 178 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 5: I spent some time with him a few meetings over 179 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 5: the course of the spring. I traveled with him to 180 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 5: Michigan on his one hundred day in office. I interviewed 181 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 5: most of the cabinet, interviewed quite a bit of the 182 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 5: White House senior staff, and you know, some of the 183 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 5: book is also just my observations. I picked out the 184 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 5: issues that I thought were the biggest ticket issues of 185 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 5: the first hundred days, and some of it's also informed 186 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 5: by the debates that I was having on CNN. 187 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: I was, so, what are the biggest ticket issues from 188 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: the first hundred days. 189 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 5: Well, at number one, I thought the volume of executive 190 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 5: orders made his presidency the most active presidency since FDR. 191 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: To immigration is a big issue in this book. 192 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: At a massive success. 193 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: And probably his biggest success, and it's the biggest promise. 194 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: Kept ninety nine percent decrease. I mean, that's insane, it's crazy. 195 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: We have passed any new laws. 196 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 5: As you know, We've just got a new enforcement mechanism 197 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 5: called the President. And then also energy frankly, and the 198 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 5: book kind of ends where they're getting to passing the 199 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 5: big beautiful bill and the energy piece and sort of 200 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 5: how that's going to impact the race to win the 201 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 5: AI competition against China. Also, frankly, some of the cultural 202 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 5: issues that he took on transgender issues, the DEI stuff. 203 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 5: I mean, these are not inconsequential matters because not only 204 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 5: did he sort of rip them out of government, but 205 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 5: it created a permission structure to rip them out of 206 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 5: corporate America. Yes, even just today, I think I saw 207 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 5: AT and T get rid of their DEI stuff finally, 208 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 5: and so the world's changed. It was an amalgam of policy, political, 209 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 5: and cultural issues, and he put a lot of balls 210 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 5: in the air. A lot went through the net, some 211 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 5: are still laying out there. But what I came away 212 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 5: with was this that when you become a Republican president, 213 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 5: you have entrenched things that are working to destroy You 214 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 5: have media that's trying to destroy you, bureaucraft's trying to 215 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 5: destroy you, you have federal judiciary trying to destroy you. 216 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 5: And they're all sort of worked together to overwhelm you. 217 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 5: And he basically just decided, I'm not going to be overwhelmed. 218 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 5: I'm going to overwhelm them. 219 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: That's the story of the book. 220 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: So look, I think there are very real differences between 221 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: first term President Trump and second term President Trump. What 222 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 3: do you see is the biggest differences? 223 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: Totally agree. 224 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 5: Spending time observing him with the team, he got the 225 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 5: team that matches his leadership style. 226 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: Yep. 227 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 5: First time around, not sure they expected to win, sort 228 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 5: of inherited, you know. 229 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: The first time. I think they were kind of the 230 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: dog that caught the car. They were like, holy crap, 231 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 3: we won. And I'll confess that there were some mistakes 232 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 3: in terms of the early appointments that were people that 233 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: were put in the administration the first term who worked 234 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: against the president. And I think he regrets making those 235 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 3: appointments this. I think the second term is much better. 236 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: It's a much stronger team. 237 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they know how to work with him. They 238 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 5: know that they're there to execute his agenda, not their own, yep. 239 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: And they also understand the hands on nature of it. 240 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 5: What I witnessed in the Oval office with him is 241 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 5: this is not a passive sort of situation. This is 242 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 5: him telling them, go do this and come back to 243 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 5: me and report. One of the cabinet secretaries said to me, 244 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 5: you can tell the President we're working on it one time, 245 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: but you don't get a second bite at that out. 246 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 5: He expects you to go do it and come back 247 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 5: and tell him what's happened and give your progress report. 248 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 5: I witnessed that, and so this time around. They thought 249 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 5: they were going to win. They knew who they wanted 250 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 5: to do a point, they knew the issues they wanted 251 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 5: to attend. 252 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: And they had spent four years thinking about exactly what 253 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: they wanted to hit, and so they hit the ground 254 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: running with a speed. I mean, there is literally no 255 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: precedent in American history for a president that has moved 256 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 3: so fast, so many executive orders, so many actions, and listen, 257 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: the vast majority I agree with are a couple of 258 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: missteps that I think occurred. But you know what, I 259 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: would describe this as a bias towards action versus a 260 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: bias towards it action. And I'll take action. If you're 261 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: moving fast, you make a few things. But they are 262 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: moving And it's I joke, but it's actually the truth. 263 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: I wake up every morning, I grab my cel phone 264 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: and I'm like, what the hell did we do today? Yeah? 265 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: And it is, I mean, it is fast moving. 266 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: And in the early days, in the. 267 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 5: Early days of this, it had the effect of overwhelming 268 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 5: the opposition. Yes, the Democrats really didn't know what hit 269 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 5: them for the first several weeks of what he was doing. 270 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 5: And one reporter told me that I interviewed she said, 271 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 5: we don't know what to cover every day because. 272 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: There's so much we don't know where to start. That 273 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: was the point. 274 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 5: He overwhelmed the forces that normally try to engulf and 275 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 5: suck under any Republican administration. 276 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: So you and I met twenty five years ago when 277 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,119 Speaker 3: we were both young staffers and the George W. Bush administration. 278 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: You were in the White House, and we've known each 279 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: other a long time. And I actually came up with 280 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: this theory then, which is there is a quantum of 281 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 3: outrage in the media, and I call it the arsenic quantum. 282 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: So if you remember, in two thousand and one, George W. 283 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 3: Bush becomes president and one of the first things that 284 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: happens is the EPA repeals a rule from the Democrat 285 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: administration concerning the percentage of arsenic that could be at 286 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: a water and it went from I don't know, like 287 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 3: four million parts per gallon or whatever it was to 288 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: five million parts per gallon. I mean, it was an 289 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: infinitesimal shift, but the media lost their ever loving mind, 290 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: and for about three months, every media story was George W. 291 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 3: Bush wants to put arsenic in your water to poison 292 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 3: your kids, and I mean their hair was on fire. 293 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: They were losing their minds. And I think one of 294 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: the things that the tru President Trump has understood, particularly 295 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: the second term, that's all the outrage there is. So 296 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: if you do one hundred things and a hundred things 297 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: that are incredibly consequential, you get the arsenic quantum of outrage. 298 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 3: They're still they scream, but they don't know what to 299 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: hit because they're moving so fast on so many fronts. 300 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: They're repealing regulations, they're implementing policies that the media are 301 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: just frustrated out of their mind. You're living on CNN. 302 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: Do you see that on a daily basis? 303 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 5: Yes, I mean every day you're going to get some 304 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 5: outrage about some I mean today, the guy had a 305 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 5: three hour cabinet meeting. 306 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: YEP. 307 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 5: So I showed up over there this afternoon and for 308 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 5: like six seconds of the three hours, he closed his 309 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 5: eyes listening to Marco Rubio talk about something. And they're like, oh, 310 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 5: Donald Trump slept through a cabinet meeting. He literally conducted 311 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 5: a three hour meeting. He held a press conference at 312 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 5: the end of it. 313 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: This is crazy. 314 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 5: And so yes, they have to pick something and try 315 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 5: to generate outrage, whether it's warranted or not. I will 316 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 5: tell you I think in this book and my recollections 317 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 5: of the first part of the year, the outrage was 318 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 5: almost all directed towards these immigrats stories. Yeah, particularly the 319 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 5: Kilmer Obrego Garcia case. 320 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: And that's so. 321 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: Tell me, do you think it is a good political 322 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: judgment for Democrats to say our party wants more illegal alien, 323 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: violent gang member, wife abusing human trafficking criminals in America, 324 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: and if you elect us, the Democrats, we will bring 325 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: MS thirteen to your neighborhood. Like, help me explain, Help 326 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: me understand the reasoning behind a party that says, let's 327 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: go have dakeries with MS thirteen gang bangers and say 328 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: we're for bringing them into your community. 329 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 330 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 5: I'm only moderately good at math. But no, I don't 331 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 5: think that is a great political strategy. But you know, 332 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 5: I also think they're doing it again on this narco 333 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 5: terrorist issue. I mean, you've got people out here, you know, 334 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 5: buying into the idea that these poor Venezuelan fishermen, you know, 335 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 5: have fallen under the gaze of Don Trump. 336 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: You look at the loud style fasherman. Fisherman don't have 337 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: twelve kilos of. 338 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 5: Coke in their boat and then you know, on top 339 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 5: of that sort of basically. 340 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: Maybe it's one hundred kilos of coke. I don't even 341 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: know how much they have, but it ain't good. 342 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 5: And also threatening these I mean essentially that like Mark 343 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 5: Kelly and others are saying, now, look, if you follow 344 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 5: the president's orders, we may come back to you in 345 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 5: a few years and retroactively decide that you broke the law, 346 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 5: and we will come after you if you help the 347 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 5: president serve as the legitimately elected commander in chief. I mean, 348 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 5: that's what they're It's all about throwing sand in the gears, 349 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 5: shut down the government to keep him from operating, get 350 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 5: military people to stop obeying orders, to keep him from 351 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 5: operating his commander in chief. That's the outrage that is 352 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 5: coming out of their base. It's it's the demand, like 353 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 5: you must stop him because we still don't give him 354 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 5: as legitimate. 355 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: They're the party of hate, Like the unifying theme of 356 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party is they hate, hate, hate Donald J. Trump, 357 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: and and it's performance theater each one of them. The 358 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: shutdown happened because Chuck Schumer and the Democrats had to 359 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: show they hate him, Yes, and it is. Listen, I've 360 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: been in the Senate thirteen years. This is the stupidest 361 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: shutdown I've ever seen because it had no objective other 362 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: than simply demonstrating we hate Trump. And look you see 363 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 3: it on CNN. I mean, I mean, I actually really 364 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: like your book, A Revolution of common Sense. You know 365 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: it used to be all right, So there's a very 366 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 3: common As you talk to people just across the country, 367 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 3: there are a lot of folks that will say both 368 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: parties have gotten to extreme, and that sounds very reasonable. 369 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: Like if you're sitting around at the dinner table and 370 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: you say that, that makes you seem very reasoned, very moderate. 371 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: And I'll say to folks like, look, I get why 372 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 3: you're saying that. That feels like it makes sense. I 373 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 3: just don't think it's true. 374 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 375 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: And if you look at the two parties, one part 376 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 3: of the Democrat Party has gone backcrap crazy. I mean 377 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: they've embraced policies complete open borders, embracing human traffickers and 378 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: narco terrorists, abolishing the police, boys and girls, sports mutilizing 379 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 3: little boys and little girls like these are extreme rat 380 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: embracing hamas, celebrating anti Semitic protesters, Like, it's almost like 381 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: every issue that's eighty twenty. Yes, they went across the 382 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: bard and said, let's take the twenty. Let's take the twenty. 383 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's ninety ten. 384 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 2: And why because Trump's on the eighty. 385 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: And if you look at the other side, and I'll 386 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: say to people over dinner, I'll say, look, what are 387 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: Trump's policy positions? Secure the border, cut taxes, cut job 388 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 3: killing regulations, support small businesses, support the police, protect our families, 389 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 3: support the constitution, and the Bill of. 390 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: Rights, welfare reform. 391 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 3: Like those are mainstream, middle of the road positions. Those 392 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 3: are not crazy right wing positions. Those are common sense. 393 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: And what's amazing is the Democrats have abandoned the middle 394 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: of the of the field. They've abandoned the middle ground. Now, 395 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: sometimes the rhetoric is a little hot, so the sort 396 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: of both sides are two extreme. I do wish occasionally 397 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 3: the rhetoric would ratchet back a little bit, but the 398 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 3: actual substance of the policies, and I got to say, 399 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: even when I'm sitting down with lefties that they don't 400 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: have a good response, like what policies is Trump implementing 401 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: that are extreme? Well, he's deporting illegal aliens, you know, 402 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: you mean like Barack Obama, who deported millions of illegal aliens. 403 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: Like he's actually going and arresting murderers and rapists and 404 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: child molesters and gang mayors. That ain't extreme. So my 405 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: question to you, number one, do you agree with that? 406 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 3: And since you've been nodding emphatically, I kind of assumed 407 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: that the answers yes, But I'm not nodding. Off you 408 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: close your eyes for a second. And by the way, 409 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: I have that effect a lot. I put people to sleep, 410 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: So feel free to not off. But if you agree, 411 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 3: here's my real question why, Like, if you're imagine for 412 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: a second you're in the ninth circle of Dante's Inferno 413 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: and you are Chuck Schumer's chief political advisor, why would 414 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: you do this? Like, what's the reasoning that? Presumably they 415 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: think this makes sense? So what would what would a 416 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: Democrat strategist say that would justify this. 417 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 5: Well, it's very simple fear, and they operate out of fear. 418 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 5: I mean during the shutdown, which you're exactly right, this 419 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 5: was the most pointless exercise. One of your colleagues anonymously 420 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 5: told a newspaper, Oh, we have plenty of votes to 421 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 5: open the government, but none of us want to face 422 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 5: the guillotine. 423 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 3: Their words, Yeah, their words. 424 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: So they're using the language of the French Revolution to 425 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 5: describe their own political base. They operate only out of fear, 426 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 5: not principle, not ideas. It's strictly operating out of fear, 427 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 5: and it's also strictly operating out of hate. I totally 428 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 5: agree with you, and this this is something about the 429 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 5: book that I've picked up on. If Trump has sort 430 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 5: of an idea of like what the eighties are and 431 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 5: he knows, they will reflexively pick the twenties because he 432 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 5: picked the eighties. Whether it's secure the border or get 433 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 5: rid of paper straws, either way, it's going to drive 434 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 5: Democrats into a silly position. I, for one, want toilets 435 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 5: that can't flush and don't have enough water to actually 436 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 5: remove your your waist, like, like. 437 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: Who the heck is that an eighty twenty or is 438 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: that a ninety ten issue? 439 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 3: That would be a ninety ten okay, that don't disintegrate 440 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: in your mouth, Toilets that can remove your extrement, and 441 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 3: like light bulbs that can turn on, like. 442 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 5: There may be a dark niche corner of the Internet 443 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 5: that takes the other side of the toilet issue. 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I want to ask you your question. 462 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 3: Quick as side hold on part of Verdict is bringing 463 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: you inside the Senate. So I'm going to tell you 464 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: a funny story. So when the Democrats, when Harry Reid 465 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 3: had the majority, just off the Senate floor, there is 466 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: a restroom that is the senator's restroom, and when the 467 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 3: Democrats took over, they replaced the toilet paper with little 468 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: square strips of Kleenex. And it was the most frustrating. 469 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 3: I assume it's some lefty environmentalist idea that like a 470 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: tiny little like four by four square is what you 471 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: would pull off one at a time. And it was infuriating. 472 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 3: And that's what the. 473 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: Democrats are saving the environment, sir, You were saving the 474 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: environment one square at a time. 475 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: Man. 476 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 3: So when we retook the Senate in twenty fourteen, Richard 477 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: Shelby became the chairman of the Rules Committee, Republican from Alabama. 478 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: Richard is a good guy. It's good friend, and I'm 479 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 3: on the rolls Committee. I came to Richard. I said, okay, Richard, 480 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 3: I got a simple request, and could you put some 481 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,239 Speaker 3: friggin toilet paper in the restroom that actually works? And 482 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: like two weeks later, I go to the restroom and 483 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: there's a roll of toilet paper there, and I will confess. 484 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 3: I went to Richard. I said, Richard, I've got your 485 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: reelection campaign slogan. You need to make a bumper sticker 486 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: right now, Richard Shelby, he gets shipped done. 487 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: And I will confess. 488 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 3: Even when Schumer took over, he did not return to 489 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 3: the little squares of paper and it remains remains fixed 490 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: to this day. But why is that complicated? And yet 491 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: for the Democrats? Like, all right, is there any person 492 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: on earth that does not hate a paper straw that 493 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: disintegrates in your mouth and doesn't actually serve the function 494 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 3: of taking the liquid in your cup? 495 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: All right, So you're gonna as The only one I 496 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: hate more than that is the bamboo straw that cracks 497 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: every single time. 498 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 5: The paper straw story, which I tell in the book. 499 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 5: Actually I was in the Oval office today he signed 500 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 5: the executive. 501 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: Order on paper straws. It. 502 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 5: It was something funny actually when I was in there, 503 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 5: like some aid came in. He said, mister President, I 504 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 5: just found out they're still using paper straws in the 505 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 5: White House. 506 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 2: Mess He said something like, well, I guess they still 507 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: had a few left over, you know, from Biden or whatever. 508 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 5: But I tell the story of that paper straw because 509 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 5: it's it's even more absurd than you think. Number One, 510 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 5: they got the idea for paper straws because like a 511 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 5: little kid gave a school report one day claiming that 512 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 5: Americans were using like tens of millions of plastic straws 513 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 5: and they were going in the ocean. 514 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 2: It was completely fabricated. 515 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 5: And then the other thing about paper straws is that 516 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 5: they actually contain lots of these like chemicals and plastics 517 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 5: in the paper straws that you ingest because they dissolve 518 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 5: in the water. So it's terrible for you and it's 519 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 5: terrible for the environment. 520 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: I haven't heard that, but I can believe that. 521 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: Yes, and so. 522 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 5: But because this kid one day in his like elementary school, 523 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 5: gave some report about supposed plastic straws in the ocean, 524 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 5: Democrats adopted this cause of banning plastic straws. And Donald Trump. 525 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 5: It took Donald Trump winning an election to finally bring. 526 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 3: Back all right, So let me ask you, it's amazing 527 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 3: a decade from now now, what is going to be 528 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 3: the legacy of Donald J. Trump. What are people going 529 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 3: to remember from the Trump presidency? 530 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 5: Broad macro foreign policy wins, bringing peace to all the 531 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 5: corners of planet Earth. I think he has been the 532 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 5: most consequential foreign policy. 533 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: So why what has But I agree with you, But 534 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 3: what has been consequential? What has mattered? 535 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 5: Well, what has mattered is you now have a strong 536 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 5: American president who's willing to engage. I mean, this was 537 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 5: the great failing of Biden. He was weak, and he 538 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 5: was indecisive, and he didn't fundamentally believe in engagement. And 539 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 5: they didn't trust him. The other players on the board 540 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 5: didn't trust him, and they didn't really care what he 541 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 5: had to say, and so he weren't afraid of him. Yeah, 542 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 5: and that's a dangerous thing. I think our enemies should 543 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: be afraid of the commander in chief. And I will 544 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 5: tell you. 545 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: I talk with our allies, I talk with with our adversaries, 546 00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: and our enemies are afraid of Donald J. Trump. That's 547 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 3: a good thing. I want Iran afraid of Trump. I 548 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: want North Korea afraid of Trump. I want Venezuela afraid 549 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: of Trump. I want Cuba afraid of Trump. I want 550 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: China afraid of Trump. And look, it goes back to 551 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 3: when Reagan was president. The philosophy of peace through strength, 552 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: that is what Trump is implementing. And I will say 553 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 3: there's a debate in our policy, in our party. There 554 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: are some who are arguing, oh, Trump is an isolationist. 555 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: He's never been an isolation never. He's not interested in 556 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: extending in unnecessary foreign wars. And I agree with him 557 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 3: in that, and he has been ending wars, which is 558 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: the right thing. But look, he stands up to our 559 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 3: enemies in one of the great faults. Both the isolationists 560 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: left and the isolationists right believes that if you don't 561 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: engage with your enemies, it will produce peace. History stands 562 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: to the contrary. I pointed out there's a reason nobody 563 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: studies at the Nevill Chamberlain School of Foreign fiew like 564 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: appeasement doesn't work. And if you want to avoid war, 565 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: the best way to do it is to be so 566 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: strong that your enemies are terrified as screwing with you. 567 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 3: And Trump is doing a fabulous job of doing that. 568 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: And the difference between Biden and Trump is weakness versus strength, 569 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 3: and weakness produces war and strength produces peace. 570 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this will be an enduring legacy for him. 571 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 5: And you know, we talk about war and peace a lot, 572 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 5: and that's the phrase we may just talk about peace 573 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 5: and war because he is a peace president, yes, and 574 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 5: he's for smart engagement, but he's not for adventurism. 575 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: I think that's one. Number two. 576 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 5: I mean, clearly he showed us how to enforce current 577 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 5: immigration laws. That's a legacy. And number three, I think 578 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 5: what they're doing on AI actually putting the United States 579 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 5: in the position to win the AI race, to produce 580 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 5: enough energy to win it. That is going to be 581 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 5: talked about ten, fifteen, twenty years from today. Did we 582 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 5: do what we had to do to defeat China? I 583 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 5: think we are. I think most of our tech companies 584 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 5: think we are. And so if that comes to pass, 585 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 5: those are three pretty great legacies. 586 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: So let's talk about the third one for a second. 587 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: So on AI. AI is an issue I care about 588 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 3: a lot, and I agree with you that we are 589 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: in a race. AI is coming and either the United 590 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: States is gonna win or China's gonna win. And I 591 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: think the world is much much worse off if China wins, 592 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: and it's much better off of America wins. I will 593 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: tell you the polling on AI is terrible. AI is 594 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: unpopular in America. If you do almost any polling. I 595 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: use it's about seventy thirty. People are terrified. They're afraid 596 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: they're going to lose their jobs. They don't trust it, 597 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: they're scared of it. And I get that, And in fact, 598 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: I talk with a lot of the tech leaders and 599 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: I say, look, if you don't engage on this issue, 600 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: the easy political outcome. Every Democrat and a number of 601 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 3: Republicans are like, AI is horrible, We oppose it, and 602 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: that if you look at the polling, that's that's the 603 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: knee jerk response. I get that fear. I understand anytime 604 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: you have economic disloke, it is frightening, it is dangerous. 605 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I'm not a lot. 606 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 3: I don't think you can stop technological advancement. I'll give 607 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: you an example. If I could right now destroy every 608 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: cell phone in America, I would. I think these are 609 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: evil portals to everything harmful in the world. All three 610 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: of us are parents. These things invite every horrible force 611 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: to our children. But we don't live in that world. 612 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: We can't end that. I'd also like a world with 613 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: no nuclear weapons. Like if I could push a button 614 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: and every nuclear weapon disappear, I would, But we don't 615 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: live in that world. And if we're going to live 616 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: in a world with nuclear weapons, I sure want to 617 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 3: make sure the United States has enough that China and Russian, 618 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: our enemies, can't dominate US. I view AI in the 619 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: same world, even if you don't want it to happen. 620 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: It is coming, and one of two outcomes will occur 621 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: in five to ten years. Either China will have won 622 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: the race, in which case AI worldwide will reflect China's 623 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 3: values will be totalitarian, controlling will be censoring, will reflect 624 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: the values of communists China, or America will have one, 625 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: in which case, hopefully AI will reflect American values of freedom, 626 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: free enterprise, free speech. That is a massive shift between 627 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: those two worlds. World two is much better, where America wins. 628 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: Two questions. Number one, do you agree with that? And 629 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: number two? If so, how does the politics change? Do 630 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: you agree with my point that right now the politics 631 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 3: is against AI and that is dangerous? 632 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: Yes? 633 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 3: I agree. 634 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 5: First of all on point one. I agree with everything 635 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 5: you said about which world we want to live in. 636 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 5: Number two, I agree with you on the polling, and 637 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 5: I think people have a healthier fear of how this 638 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 5: is going to upend their life and reasonable and which 639 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 5: is a reasonable fear? And so the next iteration of 640 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 5: this march towards AI is going to have to be 641 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 5: not how it's going to make your life worse? 642 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: How's it going to make your life better? 643 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 5: How is any other technological evolution all stimately made your 644 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 5: life better? And so that explanation has to come. And 645 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 5: then point four is just going to be how are 646 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 5: we going to power it all? And you know, are 647 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 5: we going to be able to produce enough energy to 648 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 5: do what we have to do now? 649 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 2: Plus what we. 650 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 3: Have to do AI is energy, and if we don't 651 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: not leash energy, we cannot win the race FRAEI. 652 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 5: One other issue on this that is on my mind 653 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 5: is how are we going to build enough of these 654 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 5: data centers to win this thing? I'm noticing in local 655 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 5: communities in a lot of places, folks are like rising 656 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 5: up against data center development. 657 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: So the polling is terrible in most communities. But I 658 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 3: will say, by the way, one of the few exceptions 659 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: is sort of West Texas. You've got West Texas in 660 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: the Panhandle and you're seeing a ton of data centers 661 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: come in there, and Texans are like, all right, we 662 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 3: want jobs, we want investment. We want billions in investment, 663 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 3: and there'll be jobs for construction, there'll be jobs for 664 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: running the data centers. Look, I think in dense urban 665 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 3: areas people are afraid. They're afraid it will suck power, 666 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: it will drive up their electricity prices, it will suck water, 667 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 3: And I get those fears. Look, anyone, if you're given 668 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 3: a choice, do you want something that will make your 669 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: life worse or better? People are naturally going to say, 670 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: I don't want something that makes my life worse. And so. 671 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: I think the guy by the way, Sentata, I had 672 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: a guy the other day that said to me in 673 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: the AI industry, he said, the hardest part for them 674 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: now is overcoming what you're describing, because he said they're 675 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: polling that internally says that the fear and a lot 676 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: of parts of the country right now are at the 677 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: level of where they were with nuclear reactors back in 678 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: the eighties. 679 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: Yes, interesting now, and there's been a lot of demagoguay 680 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: and but there's also the demagoguery is there. But I 681 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 3: will say the fears of AI are real and justified. 682 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 3: And all right, Look, with every great technological change, there's 683 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: been economic dislocation. So when the automobile was invented, the 684 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: horse and buggy industry was decimated, and if you were 685 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: in the buggy business, you were screwed. The difference with 686 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: AI is twofold. Number One, the volume is greater. I 687 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 3: think there are going to be more jobs that are 688 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 3: going to be threatened by AI than have been in 689 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 3: previous technological innovations. Number two, it's a different contour of jobs. 690 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: So often in the past it's been blue collar jobs 691 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 3: that have been at risk. Many of the jobs that 692 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 3: are at risk with AI are white collar jobs. There 693 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 3: if you look at Mondami, part of what elected Mandami 694 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: is you have young college graduates who have two hundred 695 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 3: thousand dollars in college debt who were told I can 696 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: go and be an investment banker, a consultant, or an accountant, 697 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 3: and they're seeing those jobs being eliminated as AI is 698 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 3: replacing thousands and thousands of those jobs. That's a level 699 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 3: of I guess I would call elite discontent that is 700 00:34:54,840 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: politically complicated and so and I get those concerns are 701 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: very real. If you've gone and worked hard, and you've 702 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: got a degree, and you took out loans and you 703 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 3: were told this is what I got to do, and 704 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: then suddenly you come out and you can't get a job, 705 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: you're pissed like. That's a very real concern. And so 706 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 3: I actually think as policy makers, as people in an 707 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: elected office, we need to have real solutions to that 708 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 3: problem because that disc content is not illegitimate, but it 709 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 3: is driving much of this resistance, and it's a very 710 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 3: real battle. 711 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 5: We've got, well and you have now, for you know, 712 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 5: many years, people teaching their children here's the course you 713 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 5: got to get on. If you well in school, go 714 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 5: to college, you can get one of these white collar jobs. 715 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 5: And you know, for you know, a few generation we've 716 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 5: been telling people this is the path. It may not 717 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 5: be the path anymore. We're going to have to reorient 718 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 5: how we're educating kids, what we're teaching them to do, 719 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 5: What other skills can we teach them to do. I 720 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 5: agree with you on the white collar versus blue collar issue. 721 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 5: Also creatives, I mean I speaked out. I've seen Ai 722 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 5: apps and a matter of seconds write songs that sounded 723 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 5: like they had a whole team of musicians and writers 724 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 5: over weeks putting them together in California, And it literally 725 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 5: happened on my phone in a matter of seconds. 726 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 3: By the way, I'll tell you in politics, it's interesting. 727 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: I'll pull up AI and I'll ask something like, what 728 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 3: has Cruz said on the following issue? And listen, I've 729 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: been doing this a long time, so I don't remember 730 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 3: every comment I've given in every newspaper interview ten years ago, 731 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 3: and in like four seconds it comes out with he 732 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: said this here, he said this here, and it like 733 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 3: traces and it's like. 734 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 4: It's insane. 735 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 3: It is insane. The ability of power you have on 736 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: your cell phone. 737 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean, and it's basically free. I mean 738 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 5: information for the first time in human history is basically 739 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 5: accessible to all and free to all and instant. And yeah, 740 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 5: it's I can see why the pulling on this is bad. Now, 741 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 5: the positive outlook here is how can we use these 742 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 5: tools to make your life easy, make you more productive, 743 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 5: and maybe make you more economically successful. Maybe you haven't 744 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 5: conceived of how that will work yet, but that's the 745 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 5: challenge of these companies that are developing the technology. 746 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 3: Well, in past, technological inventions that have increased productivity have 747 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 3: created brand new jobs, created grand, brand new focuses, and 748 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 3: so dislocation doesn't mean that people lose jobs forever. But 749 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: it is complicated. All right. Let me ask you this. Yep, 750 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 3: you're listening to this podcast right now. You're trying to 751 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 3: decide do I buy Scott Jennings' book. What's the sixty 752 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 3: second pitch for why you right now should go on Amazon. 753 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 3: As you're listening to this, click on and buy the book. 754 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 3: What's the most powerful reason to buy the book? 755 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 5: Because most of the political narrative and information narrative you 756 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 5: get on Trump, I think is totally misguided. 757 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: A lot of it's false. 758 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 5: This is a true inside account of how Donald Trump 759 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 5: retook power, what he did with that power, how he 760 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 5: overcame the interest to execute on the promises that he made. 761 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 5: I think you'll see some eye popping quotes in here 762 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 5: from people like Marco Rubio, Scott Bessen, and Elon Musk, 763 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 5: who I interviewed on his one hundred and first day 764 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 5: in office, and I could tell by the way he 765 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 5: was bent out of shape that day and really worried 766 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 5: about the future of Western civilization. I didn't know he 767 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 5: was going to have his dramatic momentary break. 768 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: But how quickly after your interview did that happen? 769 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: Just a couple of weeks. Yeah, it was. 770 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 3: It was. 771 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 2: It was day one oh one, and of course he 772 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:28,959 Speaker 2: got been out of shape. 773 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: So I was actually sitting in the Oval office when 774 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 3: Elon like really unloaded on Trump and unloaded on Twitter, 775 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 3: and it was I will say, I was having a 776 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 3: meeting with Trump on school choice, where I had brought 777 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 3: Byron Donald's and Burgess Owen's in and We're in the 778 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 3: middle of the one big, beautiful bill, and I was 779 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 3: trying to make the case, mister President, there's nothing we 780 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 3: can do that's more important in this bill than school choice. 781 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 3: This will be a legacy. I said, if we get 782 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 3: this done, you will go down in history. Your critics 783 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 3: will never acknowledge this, but you will go down in 784 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 3: history as the greatest civil rights president of our lifetimes. 785 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 3: We ended up getting it done, so we adopted the 786 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 3: school choice provision that I wrote. But in the middle 787 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,479 Speaker 3: of that meeting, as I'm pitching it to Elon sent 788 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 3: I will say his most aggressive tweet against Trump. And 789 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 3: so Trump is actually not on his phone a ton. 790 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 3: So when you're in the Oval, they will print out 791 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 3: tweets on a piece of paper and they will hand 792 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 3: it to him, and they handed it to him, and look, 793 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 3: Elon is a very good friend. President Trump is a 794 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 3: very good friend. I will say when that particular tweet 795 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 3: came out, he was pissed and our meeting was done. 796 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 3: We were there for another half hour, but our discussion 797 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 3: topic was gone because he was like unloading. So it 798 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 3: was And I'm very glad I spent a lot of 799 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 3: time with both President Trump and Elon. I'm very glad 800 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 3: that that acrimony has diminished substantially in that they've come 801 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 3: back together, because I think they're both incredibly important leaders 802 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 3: for the country, and I think we're better off if 803 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 3: they're rowing together than if they're antagonist. 804 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, the day that they had their break, I was 805 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 5: on CNN when it happened. I picked up a garbage 806 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 5: can and I put my head in it live on 807 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 5: the air to mimic how I thought all Republicans were feeling. 808 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 5: Because when they joined forces, yes, they worked together to 809 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 5: do nothing less than begin the process of saving the West. 810 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 3: Amen. 811 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 5: If we had not won the November twenty twenty four election, 812 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 5: we would be on a death spiral for the future 813 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 5: of the West. 814 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 2: Trump is our leader in this. Elon knows it. 815 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 5: He's worried about our fiscal situation, the mass migration crisis, 816 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 5: the birth rate crisis, and all these things converging to 817 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 5: destroy the West. 818 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 2: He knows that. 819 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 5: I think Trump and the Republicans are the only vehicle 820 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 5: to save it. And so when they had their break, 821 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 5: I mean it was a it was a vomit inducing moment, 822 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 5: but it appears to me that they're rea and by 823 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 5: the way, on much better footing. 824 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 3: Seeing the two of them come back together was important. 825 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 3: And listen, nobody who knows the two of them well 826 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 3: thought that the romance was going to last forever. So 827 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 3: the first several months where they were just like bosom buddies. 828 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,919 Speaker 3: They're both alpha males. They every room they have been 829 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 3: in for the last thirty years, everyone in the room 830 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 3: has deferred to them and kissed the rear ends. And 831 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 3: you didn't have to be the most sophisticated analyst of 832 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 3: human nature to say, Okay, that's probably not going to 833 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 3: last forever as a harmonious when they're both used to 834 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 3: being the guy the a dog. That's going to end. 835 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 3: I don't think any of us envisioned it would end 836 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 3: quite so spectacularly in a technicolor manner. I think most 837 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 3: of us figured, Okay, they'll come a point where they say, 838 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 3: all right, let's just go our separate ways and do 839 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 3: our things. But and the good news is it got 840 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 3: really ugly. And by the way, I use the analogy 841 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,240 Speaker 3: that I felt, like, you know, the children of divorced 842 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 3: parents saying, I wish mommy and daddy would stop fighting 843 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 3: because it like it was, it was painful. Because they're 844 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 3: both I admire. 845 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 5: Them, both agree I'm the same way. I've defended them 846 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 5: both on television. And the attacks Elon faced for the 847 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 5: sin of supporting a Republican and choosing to do public service, 848 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 5: that was his only sin. 849 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 3: And by the way, Elon demonstrates the utter hypocrisy of 850 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 3: the left. So the left for a decade has been 851 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 3: saying that climate change is destroying the world and nothing 852 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 3: matters more. We should produce massive human poverty to stop 853 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 3: climate change because if we don't, humanity will be extinct. 854 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 3: That's been their talking point for a decade. Sheldon Whitehouse 855 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 3: gives a damn speech on the Senate floor every single 856 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 3: week for years. I have presided during those they make 857 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 3: your eyes want to bleed, they're so bad. Elon Musk 858 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 3: has produced more electric vehicles than any human being who 859 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 3: has ever lived. Like, if you actually believe their rhetoric 860 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 3: about climate change, the left should be carving Elon's face 861 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 3: into Mount Rushmore. 862 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: But so they were firebombing Tesla doers. They were firebombing 863 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: so damaged to because. 864 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 3: He supported Trump and who cares. Like every word they 865 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 3: said about climate change was all garbage. If you support Trump, 866 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 3: you must be destroyed. And it demonstrated the absolute hypocrisy 867 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 3: the left. And I gotta say, Scott, I commend you 868 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 3: because you work on CNN every day. You like you 869 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 3: swim in that hypocrisy. And what you do a nice 870 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 3: job of doing is you're not mean or bitter about it. 871 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 3: You do it with a slightly amused you're full of crap. 872 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,919 Speaker 3: And look, if you were mean and punching him the face, 873 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 3: it wouldn't work. But you do it more gently, and 874 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 3: it is devastating and beautiful. 875 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 5: These are the lessons of President Reagan. We're all happy warriors. 876 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 5: We argue best when we argue with a smile on 877 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 5: our face and a little bit of humor and a 878 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 5: little bit of self reflection. And I found those debating 879 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 5: tactics to be of great use on CNN. I think 880 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 5: we're reaching people. I'll give you one other reason to 881 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 5: buy this book. Everybody has a relative that's like totally 882 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 5: lost to Trump derangement syndrome. I'll give you a piece 883 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 5: of advice. You buy this book and wrap it up 884 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 5: and put another Christmas tree. It'll be the most memorable 885 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 5: Christmas you ever had. 886 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 3: All Right, So the book is a revolution of common sense. 887 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 3: How Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for Western civilization 888 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 3: is by Scott Jennings. We are at the beginning of December. 889 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 3: Christmas time is coming up. So I'm going to say, 890 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 3: don't just buy one by two, three four, Buy it 891 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 3: for your crazy uncle Joe, buy it for your kids. 892 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 3: Go buy the book. It is a great thing. I 893 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 3: will say it is almost as good before Ben Ferguson, 894 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 3: the Great Ben Ferguson. The previous co host of my 895 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 3: podcast was Michael Knowles. His first book was What is 896 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 3: It All? The Wisdom of the Democrats? I think is 897 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 3: what it was entitled. The book. 898 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was an empty book. 899 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 3: The sob has made hundreds of thousands of dollars selling 900 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 3: a blank book, empty book genius, and he continues to 901 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 3: sell it. People go buy Michael every Christmas. 902 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: Christmas, Michael Knowles gets a great check and I'm proud 903 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: of that check he gets because people buy it for 904 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: their crazy kid or their crazy daughter's boyfriend who's a 905 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: woke liberal out there. 906 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 4: I love it. 907 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 3: I will say the last book I wrote, I did 908 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 3: inscribe to Michael on the blank front page. I said, 909 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 3: I apologize, but I did plagiarize this page from your book. 910 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 3: That's great, So by Scott's book by Mouppies. 911 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: Grab the book wherever you can on Amazon, buy it 912 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: for your family friends. 913 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,479 Speaker 4: It's an awesome book. 914 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: One thing I'll say about the book that I personally 915 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 1: think you're going to really like is the fact that 916 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: he talks about the cabinet members and what they had 917 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: to say. I think it's going to go down in 918 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: history is the most the biggest secret weapon of Donald 919 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: Trump is going to be this cabinet and how they 920 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: work so well with him. You get a lot of 921 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: what they had to say in the book as well, 922 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: because you sit down with those cabinet member Scott. I 923 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: think that's probably one of the coolest parts of the 924 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: aspect of this book. 925 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 4: So grab that as well. That's a really fun part. 926 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 3: And listen for our listeners. I will apologize in the 927 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 3: picture section of the book, Scott does include naked pictures 928 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,919 Speaker 3: of him in Nantucket. I'm sorry for that, but you know, look, 929 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 3: you gotta do what you can to sell a book. Yeah, 930 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 3: this photo shoot for that was actually quite amazing. Useless 931 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 3: all right, I want the record to record. I've never 932 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 3: seen Scott Jenny speechless, and I think for at least 933 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 3: a half second. 934 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 2: You were Yeah, we took those pictures on a warm day. 935 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 3: What is that out of Seinfeld? The water is cold, 936 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 3: but it was cold. 937 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 2: Oh, it's great. 938 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 4: Don't forget. 939 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: We do this podcast Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Hit that subscriber 940 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: auto download button. Grab Scott's book. Yes, it does a 941 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: great radio show as well in the Salem Networks. You 942 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: can you can listen to that as well in the Senate. 943 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: I will see you back here in a couple of days.