1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: today's best minds, and a CBS poll says sixty five 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: percent of Americans say Trump's policies are making grocery prices 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: go up. We have such a great show for you today, 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: the Lincoln Projects own Rick Wilson stops by. We're going 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: to talk about the disbanding of DOGE. Then we'll talk 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: to the American Federation of Teachers Randy Winingarden about Trump's 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: dismantling of the Department of Education. 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: But first the news, So, Molly, I think this is 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: pretty interesting. Actually, so we saw Zorron riz up mister Trump. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: Then Trump was dressing like him the next day, which 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: was very disturbing. But I think it's pretty interesting. We 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: have Kevin Hassett saying that they will not be cutting 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: off aid to New York City any longer. Do you 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: think this is because they can't have any more hits 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: to the economy and this would be What do you 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: think is going on here? 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 3: I don't know. And again I wouldn't trust what Donald 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: Trump says because he changes his mind all the time. 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: I think Donald Trump who really liked his meeting with Zoran, 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: feels good about New York City right now. I do 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: also think that Donald Trump has owns a lot of 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: real estate in New York and has a vested interest 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: and has a lot of real estate developer friends in 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: New York, which is another reason why he might not 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: try to completely smash our economy. But I do not 28 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: have a lot of faith in what this administration says. 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: And I think that at this point, a decade into 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: this fucking thing, people should not be taking anything these 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: guys say as anything but like directly relating to the 32 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: next four days, because these guys change their minds all 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: the time. 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: Good point, Well, there is some things where there's no 35 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: taking it back, and that is just a solito restoring 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: the GOP's Texas Congressional jerry mender and all right, we're 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: at a jerrymandering war now. 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: You know, no one should be surprised that just as 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: Alito behaves like he's a Fox News host and not 40 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: a Supreme Court justice. This is who my man is. 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: It's who he's always been. You call on him and 42 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: it always ends up like this, zero surprise. Here. Here's 43 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 3: what I would say, Aledo. The big thing that we're 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: going to wait to see is what the Supreme Court 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: does on the Voting Rights Act that's coming in June. 46 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: There is a chance, and I don't know that it'll 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: work in time for the twenty twenty six cycle, but 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: it'll certainly work for the twenty eight cycle where they 49 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: strike down Article two of the Voting Rights Act and 50 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: they make it so that they don't have to have 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: these majority minority districts. If that happens, Democrats could be 52 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: really fucked when it comes to the South. So we 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: have to wait. I do not think the Supreme Court 54 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: is done trying to fuck around with the congressional maps 55 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: for Republicans, so stay tuned. Also, Alito is assigned to Texas, 56 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: so it makes sense that he would be the one 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: who would make this call. 58 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have to say by you know, I 59 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: know you're not as active on Twitter as I am 60 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: these days, but one of those weeks where Twitter was 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: really amazing between Marjorie Taylor, green zoron Nuzzy, all the things. 62 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: But one of the real treats we got this weekend 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: was Twitter announced the new feature where you can see 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: where the account was started and where it is usually 65 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: tweeting from I'm going to shock you here, there's a 66 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: lot of foreign actors boosting MEGA. 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: I am just completely shocked to learn what we all 68 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: have known this entire time, which is that there are 69 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: a lot of foreign actors boosting MEGA. I want to 70 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: say two things here. There are many prominent So basically 71 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: most of Make America Great Again is from like India, Africa, 72 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: the global South. 73 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: Right. 74 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: Here's a great example. The account Magnation x, with nearly 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: four hundred thousand followers and a bio reading patriot voice 76 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: for We the People is from Eastern Europe. Another popular profile, 77 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: Avanka News in Avanka Trump fan account with one million followers, 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: is based in Nigeria. Another one, Dark Maga, is run 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: from Thailand. Magascope is from Nigeria, Magabacon is in South Asia. Yes, 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: so it turns out that a lot of the people 81 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: who are supporting the MAGA agenda are not real and 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: this is important for any number of reasons. One, the 83 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 3: Internet is not real life, right, so sometimes there's a 84 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: feeling that what we're watching is real when it's not. 85 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: And I think that's really important when you're on the Internet, 86 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: because there's just a lot of movement that feels like 87 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: it's one thing and is really not any so that 88 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: I think is important. And then I also think it's 89 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: important to realize that like a lot of this is 90 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 3: just not as popular. Trump won by engaging people. He 91 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: did not win by changing hearts and minds. He won 92 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: by suppressing Democratic turnout. You know, Democrats were not as 93 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: engaged as they probably should have been. As someone who 94 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: spent the last fucking six months talking about how Democrats 95 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 3: lost Latino voters, I don't think that's a conversation that 96 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: needs to be had now, right. I mean, Latino voters 97 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: do not like ice going into their neighborhoods, and I 98 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: don't think that the Democratic plan to win them back 99 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: is going to need to be super complicated, at least 100 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: at this moment. 101 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. That with grocery prices being where they are, yeah. 102 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: And not with the administration declaring literal war on them. 103 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean Americans are facing down to a reality. 104 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: I went to the grocery store again this week. I 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: couldn't believe how much things even went up from last week. Yeah, 106 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: it's crazy, It's absolutely insane what's going on right now? 107 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: Everything I bought yesterday while going around, I couldn't believe 108 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: where we're at. 109 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: With prices, and you were at Erwan. 110 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: Let me be clear, I was not at Arawan because 111 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: I was in New York City and there's only the 112 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: smoothies here right now. But when I'm in LA in 113 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: two months, let me tell you, I will be sipping 114 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: on that Haley Beaver smoothie because it is delicious. 115 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 3: You're insane. It's going to be seventy five dollars by then. 116 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: You won't be able to do it. 117 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: That might be true. I think when I bought two 118 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: of them last time, I was almost fifty dollars when 119 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: I bought it for you and I were on tour 120 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: in La last summer. Yeah, so Malli Cop thirty was 121 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: this week for people who don't know what that is. 122 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: Down in Johannesburg, there was a big environmental summit and 123 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: coinciding right with it, Trump is moving to reshape our 124 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: environmental policy by weakening the Queen Water Act and the 125 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: Endangered Species Act. 126 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you should know that Donald Trump, he hates the environment. 127 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say this guy does not 128 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: like the environment. So they're going to sell thirty four 129 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: sales of leases in federal waters one point two seven 130 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: billion acre an area more than half the size of 131 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: the United States. The plan would require six sales of 132 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 3: leases off the coast of California. Good luck getting that past. 133 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsome analysa oil companies may not rush to snap 134 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: up the leases because Newsom could reject the permits. I 135 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: think it's important to realize, like solar power is cheaper 136 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: to do than coal. Soon it will be cheaper than 137 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: oil because you just put up the panels and that's it. 138 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: Whereas oil requires drilling, requires you know, just like the tarsands, 139 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: it requires a lot to get the oil. And I 140 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: think that we are working really hard right now under 141 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: Trump administration to do every kind of polluting type of 142 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: energy production that we can. But ultimately the green stuff 143 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: is just cheaper. And I take a lot of pleasure 144 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: to report that. Sooner or later, these fuckers are going 145 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: to go out of business. It's like the oil companies 146 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: are like quickly becoming like cigarettes. You know, it's just 147 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: an unsustainable It's like coal so expensive that ultimately it's 148 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: not going to be the love of a clean climate 149 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: that saves us. It's going to be that solar is 150 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: just going to be cheaper, and ruining the environment is 151 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: going to be more expensive. As much as this is 152 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: all a big problem, I do think that there's a 153 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: real sense that a lot of the stuff Trump wants 154 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: so desperately to make happen, like coal, like oil drilling, 155 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: there are real problems, structural problems that Trump is going 156 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: to have with all of this. And good because this 157 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: is just awful. Rick Wilson is a founder of the 158 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: Lincoln Project and the host of the Enemy's List Welcome 159 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: Too Fast Politics. Rick Wilson, Polly John. 160 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 4: Fast, a beautiful day as. 161 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: Always in Florida where we both are. 162 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: We're both in the Great Seat of Florida. Although we 163 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 4: are so far apart in Florida. It is roughly seven 164 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: hundred miles to you from where I'm at right now. 165 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: So that's sad. But you know, what isn't sad that 166 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: you're in Florida. No, I don't care. What's what isn't 167 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: sad is that Donald Trump may be sick of winning. 168 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 4: I think he might be sick of winning. 169 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 3: Get to start with Doge. 170 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: Got to start with Doge because I was told that 171 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 4: Doge was going to create trillions and trillions of dollars 172 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 4: in cuts from wasteful government spending, and as it turns out, 173 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: it was a net negative and created costs money, created 174 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 4: more cost than it saved, and was from the very start. 175 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 4: What's the word I'm thinking of musky and bullshit? 176 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: Fraud, waste, and abuse turns out to be stuff I 177 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: don't like. 178 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 4: Correct turns out to be I have an esthetic dislike 179 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: of X, and therefore I'm going not the not the 180 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 4: social media platform I refer to as Twitter, X being 181 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 4: any subject that he doesn't like, anything that's woke, and 182 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: because of his hatred of the woke, he wanted to 183 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 4: slash things that that included words like justice, equity, climate bias, 184 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: you know, the usual usual things that trigger the magi. 185 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: And in doing so, you know, he cut a lot, 186 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: but none of it's stuck in the end because he 187 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 4: couldn't find the quote unquote massive government fraud from the libtards. 188 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 4: This doesn't it doesn't. 189 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: Exist, right, And part of what I think is important 190 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: to mention here is that he did cut USAI D 191 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: so hundreds of thousands. 192 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 4: That's his big win, by the way. 193 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: Right of children and women. 194 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 4: Staring around the globe now because be so proud, Elon, 195 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 4: be so proud. 196 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: He also cuts some cancer research, you know, that kind 197 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: of research that is so important. He cut a lot 198 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: of that. But he also costs money. And you know 199 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: how he costs money? 200 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: Yep? Can you money by firing people who legally couldn't 201 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: be fired. He costs money by stopping things that had 202 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: to be restarted. He costs money across the board. 203 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's out of the White House. So he was 204 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: allowed to come back for the MBS Crime Family Dinner. 205 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: Can we talk about that dinner? You know, we haven't 206 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: podcasted since last Sunday together, and I and sometimes I 207 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: want your takes on things. 208 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: I'm happy to provide the take on NBS once again. 209 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 4: Donald Trump proved. He asked himself like, Okay, I don't know. 210 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna invite a guy who cuts up people with 211 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 4: bone sauce to the White House. How can I make 212 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: it worse? 213 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 5: Oh? 214 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, how can I make the world even suck even harder? 215 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: I'll bring Elon? 216 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 3: But so Elon was there, Tim Cook, was there, all 217 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: the sort of captains of industry, all of them, Tim Apple, Yeah, 218 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: they were there for MBS. MBS, you know they're going 219 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: to make a ten gazillion trillion billion dollar you know, quadrillion, 220 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: quad quadrillion dollars, you know, get into American the American economy. 221 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: All of this is always bullshit. He is selling them 222 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: military planes, which is something, right, We're giving. 223 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 4: Them the mind can sell them thirty five okay. 224 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 3: You know is that it's a very plane. 225 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 4: It's a very very very effective airplane. But it is 226 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 4: also it is also just one more example of how 227 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 4: Trump's impulses are that of the of a of a 228 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: huckster in a in a in a flea market. He's 229 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: not trying to really look at American national security or 230 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: in a national security. It's always like I want to 231 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 4: make the say what do hey, hey, chic, what does 232 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 4: it take to get you into this cream puff today? 233 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 4: So I drive this F thirty five right off the 234 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: lot there. 235 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: I want to I want to talk about why dog 236 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: is being disbanded though for a minute, because I assume 237 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: it's because they've just lost interest in it, which speaks 238 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: to a little bit of like how this entire government 239 00:12:59,040 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: is working. 240 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: I will give you another explanation also, though I think 241 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: that is somewhat more telling. I think they got most 242 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: of what they needed already through Project twenty twenty five 243 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: and Russ. 244 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: Vought and with the clawbacks you mean, right, and so 245 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 3: Socket recisions right. 246 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 4: And so Elon's plaything doesn't have the same sort of 247 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: cachet it had, and and they're getting away with all 248 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 4: this other stuff without the kind of pain in the 249 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 4: ass of of of something associated with Elon. It makes 250 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 4: it easier to sell as a as a political item 251 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 4: than it would have other then it would have if 252 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 4: Elon or even the word Doge was still attached to it. 253 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: Okay, now we're gonna have Jesse come back on, because 254 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: he has come He is the Scottvescant whisperer of this podcast. 255 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 4: He loves he loves news. 256 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 3: Many of us find him to be a low affect, 257 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: boring old guy, but not Jesse. Jesse loves him. Jesse, 258 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: please play the Scott bess. 259 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 6: End clip thirtieth, because that's the point of my editorial 260 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 6: is to put the Senate on notice that the Democrats 261 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 6: kept the government shut down. And Ezra Klein in the 262 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 6: New York Times took the mask off. He said, this 263 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 6: wasn't about healthcare, this was about stopping totalitarianism. The Democrats 264 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 6: haven't been able to stop asn't Trump in the courts. 265 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 6: They haven't been able to stop him in the media. 266 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 6: So they had to harm the American people one point 267 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 6: five percent hit to GDP eleven billion dollar permanent hit. 268 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: They don't care. 269 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 6: So I believe that Senate Democrats, if that, if Senate 270 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 6: Democrats close the government again, that Senate Republicans should immediately 271 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 6: abrogate the philibuster. 272 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: You should. 273 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 6: You should ask Senator Ulbachar whether she will adhere to 274 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 6: the filibuster and whether she will close the government. 275 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: Again, and she just knowledge at this. 276 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 6: We will see. You can have them on January third. 277 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 6: Want to see this bad democratic behavior. 278 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: A democratic behavior democrats shut down the government's Oh wait, 279 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 3: what I like about Scott Passant, and this is a 280 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: question for you, is besides being completely charmless, he is 281 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: also just not a very good communicator discussed. 282 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: No, he's terrible on television. Look, he is a guy. 283 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: He's a guy who comes out of that Wall Street 284 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 4: private equity banking universe, right, and maybe he's okay at 285 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: reading a slide deck in a quarterly meeting, but he 286 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: is not convincing anybody right now that Oh yes, it's 287 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: the Democrats who shut down the government. Literally, no one 288 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 4: believes that. Yeah, even the Republicans know who shut down 289 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: the freaking government. So this whole thing is like, it's 290 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: Scott's got a weak hand to play. He's also a 291 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: weak player at playing that hand. 292 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: I think that's a really good point. It also is like, 293 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: if you just look at the stock right now, the 294 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: Republican stock, it's bad. These senators do not you know, 295 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: Trump is pulling the lowest he's ever pulled in either 296 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: of his admins. Correct, Like, there's no you know, they 297 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: got no uplift. 298 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 4: For Trump world right now. You know, it used to 299 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 4: be that you could rely on on thirty five percent 300 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: of the Republican base was going to stick with the 301 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: Republican Party no matter what and all that. Well, now 302 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: they're feeling a lot less seguine about Donald Trump, and 303 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 4: they're feeling vastly less sanguine about voting for Republicans. We're 304 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: seeing this number of voting intention for Democrats just rising 305 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 4: and rising and rising. That's not happening because people have 306 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: confidence in them. It's happening because people have no confidence 307 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 4: in them. 308 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: Right, And I also think you have a moment here 309 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: where Thune has already said they're not going after the filbuster. 310 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: He was like, no, and you're seeing like you're seeing 311 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: their state legislature is saying they're not going to redistrict. 312 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: People are Republicans are saying no. Marjorie Taylor Green, which 313 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 3: we'll get to in a minute. Parations are happy's to 314 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: say no to Donald Trump at every place. So why 315 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: is Scott Besson coming in at the eleventh hour with 316 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: an enormous ask? 317 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 4: Listen, Scott Besson and Donald Trump. One of the things 318 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 4: Trump has never been good at is like understanding deeper 319 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 4: policy ramifications of things. But sometimes he'll get something in 320 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 4: his craw and he'll say, I'm gonna I'm gonna harp 321 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 4: on this one thing. I'm gonna lay down on this 322 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 4: one thing. And that's what That's what the filibuster is 323 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 4: for him. Right now, it's like, oh, wait, is there 324 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 4: a secret trick I can use to fuck things up? 325 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 4: I'll use the filibuster And right now that ain't gonna work. 326 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 4: It's not not there for this administration to have the 327 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 4: number he needs because listen, I can tell you there's 328 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 4: one guy in the Senate who will literally be pulled 329 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 4: out dead feet first before he gives it the filibuster. 330 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 4: And that's Mitch McConnell. Say what you will about about cocaine. Mitch, 331 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 4: he is not ever blinked on that subject, and he's 332 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 4: done some tweaking around the edges on it over the years. 333 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 4: But with Trump involved, this is also Mitch's last fuck 334 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: you to Donald Trump. And he's going to hold together 335 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 4: the Collins, Murkowski, Rankford blah blah blah mini coalition because 336 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: they all understand the danger of it. Now, there are 337 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: also some other more maga Republicans who also get that 338 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: if you'd under the filibuster, then there's going to come 339 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: a day really soon where the Democrats have the Senate 340 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 4: and they say, oh, you wanted to get rid of 341 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 4: the filibuster. That's what you told us, So we're happy 342 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: to oblige. And here we are. 343 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: And that universal healthcare, universal pre K, universal abortion. 344 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 4: Free free trans reassignment surgery in churches, whatever the hell 345 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 4: it is. 346 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: In free birth control. You know the whole We're going 347 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: to talk about. Your favorite for a member of Congress now, 348 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: Marjorie Taylor space Laser's QAnon, Welcome to the resistance. Green. 349 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 4: You know I got to say this. This had every 350 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: possibility that it was just her playing a sort of 351 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: Maga prank, but she pulled the trigger on Friday night. 352 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 4: She came out and said, Nope, I'm out. I'm done, 353 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: not playing the ball game anymore. This is it. I've 354 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: had enough. YadA YadA YadA. Hey, you know what, I 355 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 4: don't think she's done with politics. I think she's going 356 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 4: to run again for something. But I think she understands 357 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: that Maga is a declining stock, a declining power in 358 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: the country, and as Trump declines further, he'll become more 359 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: dangerous and it will cause more damage to other people 360 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 4: who are who have been in that circle of Republican politics. 361 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 4: If she's looking to make a future for herself, then 362 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 4: we are going to see her as the alpha character 363 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 4: of this exodus from from Maga, not the final No. 364 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: I agree. And it's funny because I talked to I 365 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: have like one very MAGA person I talked to. He 366 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: said he could not believe what a fuck you that 367 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: video was from Marjorie to Donald Trump. 368 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: Solid fuck you. It was a fuck you with bells on. 369 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 3: Tell us, why look, she said. 370 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 4: The most important thing in that video, Molly, Well, she 371 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 4: came right out and she said, the president told me 372 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 4: he was against the elites, but he sides with the elites. 373 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: That's a fundamental message inside of MAGA. That is honestly, 374 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 4: that's that's where this started back in twenty fifteen. I'm 375 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 4: going to drain the swamp. I'm going to be against 376 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 4: the elites. I'm going to stop the powerful and the 377 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: wealthy from screwing you over. She said it right out. 378 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: He's not on our side, folks, He's with the other side. 379 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 4: I think that is just a devastating critique of trying. Yeah, 380 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: I think some folks in MAGA thought she was going 381 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 4: to throw a little hissy fit and then that would 382 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: be that. But she didn't. She went much further. She 383 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 4: went much harder on Donald Trump. 384 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: And she did say in her her resignation, her four 385 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 3: page resignation letter, he struck. 386 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 4: Side along for a MAGA thing. That's how much how 387 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 4: you're really. 388 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 3: Going to read page four though? Has he sides with 389 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: the globalists, he sides with the billionaires. Look at the 390 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: people he has at his inauguration and that that is 391 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 3: the fundamental problem with MAGA is you have the richest cabinet, 392 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 3: right and you can't be a populist. 393 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: You can't be a populist if the cabinet if you're 394 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: if the cabinet is if like the person with the 395 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 4: lowest net worth is like six hundred million dollars. 396 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not how the world works. Yeah, and it's 397 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: such an important point. 398 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 4: She took away that populist Bannonite edge that Trump always enjoyed. 399 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: And look, this has already been strained, Molly, because Trump 400 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 4: for months has been screwing working people by holding up 401 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: on these tariffs and continuing like stacking the deck for 402 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 4: Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and god knows who else, 403 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 4: but not ever producing anything that's helped middle class voters. Yay, 404 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 4: record stock market okay. 405 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 406 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 4: So also, we stopped reporting unemployment numbers. I promise you 407 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 4: if they were good, we would still be reporting them. 408 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's important to remember that Trump fired 409 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: the head of the Bureau of Labor and Statistics and 410 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 3: we never heard about it again. 411 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 4: Well, and that is that is I will I will 412 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 4: cast some of that responsibility on our very stressed out 413 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: media in this. 414 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: World, because the ten people who still right, the ten. 415 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 4: People who still write about economics, I don't know about you, 416 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 4: but it feels to me like there's a growing realization 417 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: that something bad is coming economically and we're just like 418 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 4: trying to agree to like not talk about it. 419 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 3: I think it's clear that we're in a bubble, in 420 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 3: an AI bubble that's not going anywhere good and the question, 421 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: and we saw that with Nvidia stock this week it 422 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: announced earnings and then ultimately went down. On Friday, it 423 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: was this absolutely insane White House meeting with Zoran and 424 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. And I want to tell you that a 425 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: close personal podcasting friend of mine said, I'm worried that 426 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: Zorrien is going to go to the White House and 427 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is going to arrest him and deport him. 428 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: And do you know what happened? 429 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 4: I do. Donald Trump got a new nickname down low Donald. 430 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 4: He was flirting with the guy in the Oval office 431 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 4: like like I literally was like expecting, like, would you 432 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 4: like to come back to the residents and see my etchings. 433 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: So I so I have spent all weekend on cable 434 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 3: news with people trying to figure out what that was. 435 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: My theory is that Donald Trump loves a winner, and 436 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what you're if the people if your 437 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 3: young staffers are crowding outside to get a glimpse of you. 438 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: If you're like a real Kennedy, like our K Senior 439 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: or JFK, and not like a shitty Kennedy like the 440 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: ones we have. 441 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 4: Now, like Pervo will make a love poet. 442 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 3: If you are a real Kennedy, Donald that Donald Trump 443 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: as a feminist, I will not go there that Donald 444 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 3: Trump has he he is not immune to the charm economy, 445 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 3: of which he is a product of. 446 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 4: Donald Trump was flirting with him. He and Zoran we're 447 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: in that office. And Trump loves somebody who's good on television. Now, 448 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: I will say Donald Trump was doing everything except taking 449 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 4: the Maraschino cherry out of his cocktail and tying the 450 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 4: stem in the knot with his tongue. But this guy 451 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 4: loved seeing Mom Dommy in the White House because he 452 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: likes celebrity, and Domy is a political celebrity, and he 453 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 4: likes unparalleled in the country right now, honest answer. 454 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: And he likes talent. I mean, this is a guy 455 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: with more raw talent than I mean. Let's talk. Let's 456 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 3: do two minutes on his talent. Because I know a 457 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 3: lot of people are worried about him whatever, whatever, I'm not, 458 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 3: but I would love you to talk about his talent, 459 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: because let's talk about other talented political actors on that level. 460 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: There aren't. I mean he is unique right now in 461 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: the Democratic Party. Look they are, they are very good 462 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: candidates overall, but like he has a level of he 463 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 4: has an understanding of what where the politics of America 464 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 4: is right now. And I don't mean that ideologically. I 465 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 4: mean that in the fact that he communicates on social media. 466 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: I mean that in the fact that he communicates with 467 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 4: with you know, a post on substack or or or 468 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 4: x or Twitter or or Instagram in a way that 469 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: most people would take would be like, well, we have 470 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 4: to write a we have to write an essay for 471 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 4: the New York Times to get our message across. It 472 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 4: gets that, you don't. He gets to the world as 473 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: not that anymore. The world is different now, and he's 474 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: able to use that very effectively. 475 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 3: To add one other thing though, because I think you're right, 476 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: but I also want to add he has also raw charisma. 477 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 478 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: Part of it is social media. Yeah, because like Newsom 479 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: does that social media really well, and Newsom is pretty charismatic. 480 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: And these again we are looking at these. 481 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 4: Candidates not louch on the charisma. Right, Let's be. 482 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 3: Right, We're not looking at these candidates ideologically, We're just 483 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: looking at pure political talent. But I think mom Donnie 484 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 3: has a kind of thing that is rockstar level. 485 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 4: Especially because he's thirty four years old, he has the 486 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: ability to grow in this role. Yeah, okay, And he 487 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: did something yesterday in the White House like mentioning we're 488 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: going to you know, protect people in New York from 489 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: anti Semitism, which he's he's starting to adjust that there 490 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 4: are things that you have to you have to, you know, 491 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 4: realistically accommodate no matter what your some of your base wants. 492 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: But his talent is letting him do that and keep 493 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 4: his base with him. I think although there was a 494 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 4: little bit of bitching yesterday that or the other. 495 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 3: Day that I saw, I saw it too. 496 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: But not but nothing nothing that really like shocked me. 497 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 4: So nothing that really was like like like, one of the. 498 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: Things that's interesting about this moment is you have Mondami's 499 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: stock way up really because you know, he's not going 500 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 3: to be the cause of federal troops being flooded into 501 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 3: New York. Now, it may still happen because Donald Trump 502 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: is not you know, he changes with wind. But the 503 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: other thing, the stock of everyone who was like Mondami 504 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: is a gi hottest just went yeah, no, oh yeah. 505 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 4: Trump cut the legs out from underneath MAGA on this 506 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 4: because I mean all those articles. I mean and not 507 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 4: just in like the crazies. It wasn't just like Breitbart 508 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 4: or or the Free Bacon. It was a National Review 509 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 4: and the Wallstreet Journal, like Abel calls the immediate collapse 510 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 4: of Western civilization. Well, now Donald Trump's in the office. 511 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 4: Given the guy a tongue bath. 512 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: Rick Wilson all drug fast, will you come back as always? 513 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 3: Randy Winegarden is the president of the American Federation of 514 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 3: Teachers and the author of the book Why Fascist Fear Teachers. 515 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: Randy Winingarden, Welcome to Fast Politics. 516 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 7: I'm always honored to be with you. 517 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 3: My dear Republicans, had a dream to dismantle the Department 518 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 3: of Education. Looks like it's starting to happen. What is happening? 519 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: You are the head of the Teachers Union. What is happening? 520 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 5: Let me take a step back, because I'm watching two 521 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 5: different streams on Twitter, on Blue Sky on social media, 522 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 5: and New York Magazine that there's all this emerging research 523 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 5: about what we need to do to help our kids, 524 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 5: and it's coming out in places like, you know, Jonathan Hate, 525 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 5: the Mississippy Miracle, you know, places that you wouldn't expect it. 526 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 7: This is what the Department of Education's responsibility is. Instead 527 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 7: of cutting the research about what best practices are, what 528 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 7: they should be doing is curating what we're seeing in 529 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 7: the aftermath of COVID, what we're seeing in the aftermath 530 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 7: of social media, what best practices are happening around the country. 531 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 7: And they should be prioritizing this and making this available 532 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 7: for parents and for teachers and for school boards and 533 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 7: school districts, and they should be actually making a priority 534 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 7: our kids' education. What are they doing instead. What they're 535 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 7: doing instead is they're dismembering, basically selling off parts of 536 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 7: the Education Department, so that you know, some of it 537 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 7: is in labor, some of it is in state, so 538 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 7: it's never going to be put back together again in 539 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 7: this kind of way. 540 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 3: And what they're. 541 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 7: Also doing, and this is the biggest this is the 542 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 7: point I really want to make, Molly, is it's an abandonment. 543 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 7: It's not just an abdication of responsibility that the Congress 544 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 7: has given to them since nineteen eighty. But it's an 545 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 7: abandonment of children. So if you put just this last 546 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 7: couple of months together, they cut SNAP during a shutdown 547 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 7: when they don't have to, and that disproportionately hurt young 548 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 7: people kids. They cut Medicaid as part of their big 549 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 7: ugly bill a trillion dollars that disproportionally hurts kids in 550 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 7: terms of the CHIP program, the children's Health insurance program, 551 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 7: and families with kids. They cut the research that universities do, 552 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 7: which disproportionately hurts kids in college as well as long 553 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 7: term research. And they basically made a complete mess of 554 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 7: the student debt program. I mean, we've have sued and 555 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 7: they've now restarted these programs, but they made a basic 556 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 7: mess of it that affects forty five million people who 557 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 7: have gone to college. And then, as I said, when 558 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 7: I started the stuff they're supposed to do like lift 559 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 7: up good practice, is I have not seen once Linda 560 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 7: McMahon get to a microphone or doing op ed saying 561 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 7: this is a promising program that we've seen, let's see 562 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 7: if other people can do it. So it's an abandonment 563 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 7: of children, and that is why I am so angry 564 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 7: about it. I don't care if you're liberal or conservative 565 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 7: or independent. Don't abandon children, don't basically undermine children in America. 566 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: So let's talk through. Florida has sort of started a 567 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 3: kind of like homeschooling, money for homeschooling, disassembling of public education. 568 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: That is I think pretty intense and seismic. So I 569 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 3: would love you to talk about that first. 570 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 7: You know what's happened is there's an independent audit in 571 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 7: Florida now about that program that have shown that they 572 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 7: have wasted millions of dollars. 573 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: Basically, if you say you're going to homeschool your kid, 574 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: you can get a certain amount of money every year. 575 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: And now they don't go yeah, doubt tens tens of thousands, 576 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 3: tens of thousands. 577 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 7: It's about I think I think it's a seventy five 578 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 7: hundred dollars. 579 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: Grant, right, and then you can use it for whatever 580 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: you want and you don't necessarily need to show where 581 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 3: it goes, and. 582 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 7: Including the fact that Disney is advertising to people use 583 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 7: it with us compact the world. 584 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: So that's happening in Florida, and that's a state level problem, 585 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: but it is it shows I think it shows Florida 586 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: kind of shows where the trumpest head is at well. 587 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 7: But this is what I'm saying. Look, I don't parent 588 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 7: wants to homeschool their kid. You know, let me use 589 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 7: my grandmother's Yiddish psychasant. They have a right to homeschool 590 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 7: their kid. If a parent wants to send their kid 591 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 7: to a religious school, they were right to do that. 592 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 7: What I'm concerned about is this every time you take 593 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 7: money out of the public school system and you starve 594 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 7: it and we don't actually do what we need to 595 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 7: do in terms of what are the best practices. So 596 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 7: kids are numerate, kids are literate, kids actually are engaged 597 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 7: instead of dealing with you know, the kids feel welcome 598 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 7: and safe. We know many things that actually work. We 599 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 7: need to have the time, and we need to have 600 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 7: the tools, and we need to have the you know, 601 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 7: the teachers who know how to do this stuff and 602 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 7: actually don't get smeared and unsupported and actually have the 603 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 7: time to do this. But instead they're taking money in 604 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 7: Florida out of public schools. So and they're making teachers 605 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 7: feel miserable about their jobs. And they're saying to them, 606 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 7: if you actually welcome kids in your classroom, you could 607 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 7: get in trouble. If you teach in a certain way, 608 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 7: you could get in trouble. So they're creating all sorts 609 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 7: of distrust and taking money away at the same time, 610 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 7: they're creating incentive for homeschooling. So what does that do 611 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 7: in terms of the country and what does that do 612 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 7: in terms of children? So my job is to actually 613 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 7: fight as hard as I can to get the funding 614 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 7: for public schools and then to make public schooling the 615 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 7: best it can be so that parents want to send 616 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 7: their kids to public schools, that teachers want to be 617 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 7: at public schools, and kids thrive. So for me, okay, 618 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 7: a parent wants to homeschool, I'm not going to substitute 619 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 7: my judgment to the parent, But where why is the 620 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 7: incentive to homeschool rather than the incentive being to make 621 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 7: public schooling the best it can be. So they want 622 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 7: to get me to be negative about the parent who homeschools. 623 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 7: I'm not going to do that. I don't that's not 624 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 7: my judgment. But if all of a sudden, the high 625 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 7: school in Florida, and we have some of these great 626 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 7: high schools, at the high school in Florida has all 627 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 7: sorts of really cool programs, including you know, culinary programs 628 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 7: and advanced manufacturing and project based instruction and debate and 629 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 7: kids feel safe and welcome and they like it. Very 630 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 7: few people are going to homeschool, So why is the 631 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 7: incentive not to help make the programs in public schooling 632 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 7: make them welcoming and safe and make the programs cool. 633 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 7: But if you don't have the money for it, how 634 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 7: are you going to stand up that you know, debate program, 635 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 7: How are you going to stand up that culinary program 636 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 7: And so they're they're taking money away from those programs 637 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 7: and defunding them so we don't have them. 638 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 3: I would love it if you could talk about this, 639 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: so the war on the Department of Education, because they 640 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: want to do it now, I would love you to 641 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 3: explain what it means, like how they can do it. 642 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: And there's certain parts of it that they've already hot 643 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 3: while they're trying to cut like hell grants. 644 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 7: Let me tell you what they are actually doing. 645 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: It all violates. 646 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 7: The laws, like it's that none, none of what they're 647 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 7: doing is legal. But they're basically doing a bunch of 648 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 7: different cuts that will effectively disable the Department of Education. 649 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 7: So once we won. They started this process a few 650 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 7: months ago. Our case is in the federal courts in Massachusetts. 651 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 7: The courts basically the federal trial court. The appellate court 652 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 7: said no, you can't do that. When you basically fire 653 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 7: half of the people. That means you're saying that you 654 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 7: don't want a Department of education. But this is what happened. 655 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 7: The Supreme Court in its shadow docket stopped the injunction. 656 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 7: So we were winning in the courts below saying no, 657 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 7: you can't do it. Supreme Court said, oh no, we'll 658 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 7: deal with this case on the merits you. 659 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 3: Know, later on. 660 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 7: But they no longer Linda McMahon, you no longer are 661 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 7: enjoined against this. So the thurdes they did, meaning they 662 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 7: said you can do it. The first thing they got 663 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 7: rid of the preliminary and function that that stopped them. 664 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 7: That was the Supreme Court shadow docket, the first thing 665 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 7: that so no decision, just very quietly doing that. So 666 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 7: the first thing that the department did, the first thing 667 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 7: Linda McMahon did is she took all the career tech 668 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 7: ED programs and put them in the labor department. There 669 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 7: was testimony, So have you noticed they haven't heard anything 670 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 7: about Career tech ED in the last few months. And 671 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 7: remember February of this year, both Donald Trump and we 672 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 7: love career tech ed. He made February Career tech Ed month. 673 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 7: Haven't heard anything, why because we heard testimony this week 674 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 7: in the Congress that it's totally screwed up, the Career 675 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 7: tech ED grants on getting to people. It's totally screwed 676 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 7: up because they put it in a place that doesn't 677 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 7: know how to do it. 678 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 3: Now, why do I U say as an example, because. 679 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 7: It's example, they're doing the same thing they said, Oh, 680 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 7: we've done such a good job with Career tech D. 681 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 7: We're going to move everything in elementary and secondary of 682 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 7: education everything title one, Title two, Title three, meaning reading, 683 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 7: the programs for poor kids, the programs for Limited English learners, 684 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 7: teacher preparation, we're moving all of that to Labor, the 685 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 7: Labor Department, which has done such a great job would 686 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 7: career tech ED. They're moving all of it there. So 687 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 7: basically they're moving it there to die. I mean that's 688 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 7: what they're doing. And then they're moving the full brag 689 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,959 Speaker 7: Scholars program to the Department of State. Okay, I could 690 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 7: actually see that if they cared about kids. They're moving 691 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 7: the education for kids on Indian reservations to the Bureau Eventior. 692 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 7: I could actually see that because like the Defense Department 693 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 7: before this administration, they you know, they do a good 694 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 7: job with the schools that are on military basis, So 695 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 7: if they cared about this stuff, you could see those 696 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 7: two things. But then this is the kicker. They're moving 697 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 7: the programs that deal with individuals with disabilities to let 698 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 7: me tell you, drum roll please, Health and Human Services, 699 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 7: the same department that just in the last many many 700 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 7: many few days has basically said that you can't cure autism. 701 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 7: You're basically saying to parents with kids who are artistic 702 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 7: or on the spectrum, you're moving to the department that 703 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 7: doesn't think you can help those what like what. 704 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 3: Is pretty nutty. So to have him folk, to have 705 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 3: him in charge of your kid's education is pretty crazy. 706 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 7: So you could see in a normal administration. And look, 707 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 7: one of my predecessors, Al Shanker, he actually opposed creating 708 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 7: a separate department of education. He said, and in retrospect 709 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 7: he's probably right now. 710 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 3: He said that. 711 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 7: Keep it in health, education and welfare because you know, 712 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 7: before that that reorganization because he was afraid that kids 713 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 7: would become a political hot. 714 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 3: Potato, and which they have, which they have, and so 715 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 3: he that. 716 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 7: Was his You, he said, keep it with families, keep 717 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 7: everything together, so that kids were more protected, you know. 718 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 7: And it's been the Department of Education because Carter established it. 719 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 7: You know, it's been something that the Republicans have wanted 720 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 7: to get rid of since Carter established it. And you 721 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 7: and and since kids don't really have a lobbying nobody 722 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 7: lobbies for kids. Kids are lobbying for by us, by 723 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 7: their parents. You know, there's not anyone other than rushing 724 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 7: to courts, you know, who are basically saying, don't do 725 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 7: this to kids. But so effectively they are going to 726 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 7: basically get rid of those functions with exception of I 727 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 7: guess the Office of Civil Rights. And I'll say one 728 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 7: more thing about this, which is the Department of Education 729 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 7: doesn't run any schools. It's never run any schools except 730 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 7: for maybe the schools it has some oversight for the 731 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 7: schools on Indian reservations. So they are creating this setup 732 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 7: to eliminate it based on a lie. So if you 733 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 7: don't actually think that kids are doing as well as 734 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 7: they should do, right, now you're basically saying that we're 735 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 7: going to give it to the states who already are 736 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 7: doing what you don't think. 737 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 3: Is very good. 738 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 7: Right now, how does that make any sense? That's why 739 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 7: I call it abandonment. 740 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 3: Is the ultimate goal here just to completely end the 741 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 3: Department of Education, I mean just to move everything into 742 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 3: other places. 743 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 7: Yes, the ultimate goal is to end the Department of 744 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 7: Education and to basically not only move everything to other places. 745 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 7: But there's too many of us who really believe that 746 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 7: the money that states get for this from the federal 747 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 7: government is too important. There's too many of us where 748 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 7: both Democrats and Republicans that fight against them when they 749 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 7: try to you know, grant they try to take all 750 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 7: the money and lump summit instead of giving like title 751 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 7: ie to the you know, to PS one in New 752 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 7: York City, which is how the grant money works right now, 753 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 7: it goes directly to students. So there's too many of us, 754 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 7: both Republican and Democrats, who actually you know, fought to 755 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 7: stop them from doing that. So now they're just denuding 756 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 7: it in every which way they can to make it disappear, 757 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 7: and there will be no one that will help. If 758 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 7: a state decides not to use the money correctly. There's 759 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 7: no one other than going to the courts. They're going 760 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 7: to basically, you know, be the one calling balls and strikes. 761 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 7: So they don't I mean they literally don't care. That's 762 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 7: why I get to they just don't care about kids, 763 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 7: and kids are our future. But this administration is so 764 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 7: it looks backwards. It doesn't look forwards anyway on anything. 765 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 7: It doesn't think about what the future should look like. 766 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 4: I mean, it. 767 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 7: Basically is whatever big tech tells it to do in 768 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 7: terms of AI it does, and he's quite enriched himself. 769 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 7: As regular people life has gotten less and less affordable. 770 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 3: Randy Winegarden, I hope you'll come back. 771 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 4: No moment time. 772 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 3: Rick Wilson, mulad junk Fast. 773 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 4: Is it that time? 774 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 3: It is that time. I love that at the time 775 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 3: of time, I know that time. 776 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,439 Speaker 4: The time and the season for loving. No my moment 777 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 4: of fucker. This week is the first big skirmish in 778 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty eight presidential campaign, and that skirmish is 779 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 4: between JD Vance and the pro Putin pro Russia faction 780 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 4: inside the administration and Marco Rubio, who is also fairly 781 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 4: pro Putin, but who understands he's not gonna win the 782 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,720 Speaker 4: presidency being that way, and Marco Rubio has busted out JD. 783 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 4: Vance and the pro Russia segment for taking a plan 784 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 4: written in Russia by the Russian Foreign Ministry. It leaks 785 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 4: to Axios. The administration, courtesy of Vance, reports it as 786 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 4: America's policy. This is a classic fucking Vance witcough fuck up. 787 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 4: The world explodes, everybody goes crazy. Marco seeing a hole here, 788 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 4: leaks this and JD. Vance is now taking the hit 789 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 4: on it. This is the first moment of the twenty 790 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 4: twenty eight race where their hatred for each other has 791 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 4: really started to come up on the surface. Vance has 792 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 4: been leaking the shit about against Marco on Venezuela. Marco 793 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 4: has returned the favor on Russia. And I don't think 794 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 4: it gets any prettier from here. 795 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 3: And how does Axios figure into this? 796 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 4: That's where the leak was sent. I don't know who 797 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 4: leaked it to Axios, but somebody sent it to Axios 798 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 4: because they were with it like a in a hot sun. 799 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 3: This is the beginning of this sort of fracturing of 800 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 3: Maga or is there more to this? 801 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 4: I don't think there's more to this. In that regard, 802 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 4: I think MAGA is going to be. What's what MAGA 803 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 4: is going to be. It's going to be. It will 804 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 4: be a cohesive part of it that sticks around as 805 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 4: sort of the Trump cult forever. But there will also 806 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,919 Speaker 4: be a big part of it that's either goes home, 807 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 4: gets bored, is tired of politics, doesn't have the glue 808 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 4: of Donald Trump at hearing them all together in the future. 809 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 4: I wrote a piece today about this. I don't think 810 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 4: Trump is less dangerous because he's a lame duck. I 811 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 4: think it's more dangerous. I think things are going to 812 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 4: be more crazy and more potentially horrifying because he's a 813 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 4: lame duck. These guys are all starting to jockey. The 814 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 4: house is in a frenzy right now. Remember Grinder, Mike 815 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 4: cannot lose a lot of seats. He's losing another one 816 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 4: on January fifth, when Marge leaves, all this is going 817 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 4: to come down, I think to a very tense. 818 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 3: And ugly spring Reinder Mike Rick Wilson, I am just 819 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 3: I'm listening to the joke. I am neither confirming, nor 820 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 3: denying nor agreeing. I am just listening to the joke. 821 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,240 Speaker 3: In awe in awe. 822 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 4: In awe. Cancel me, motherfuckers. Try it. 823 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 3: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in 824 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 3: every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday to hear the best 825 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 3: minds and politics make sense of all this chaos. 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