1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. I'm Tamara Judge and I'm Dan Gestling, and 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: you're listening to Talking a Big Game. Hey, guys, welcome 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: to another episode of Talking a Big Game with myself, Tamor. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: Judge Anne dan geesing. Excited to be here, Tamra, what's 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: going on? Like something happened? 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Well, as you can see, my eyes are a little 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: bit swollen. I can't really see that well, so I 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: might be putting those glasses on. 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: Are you boxing? What do you do? What happened? 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: No, it's not even that exciting. I had an allergic reaction 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: to my makeup yesterday for the Green screen, and I 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: woke up this morning with both my eyes crusted shuts, 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: so I have no makeup on. 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: Is it new makeup? 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: Nah? 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: You know what it is. 17 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: Every once in a while there's like glitter found, like 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: an eyeshadow that I can't tolerate, and they must have 19 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: shod Chelsea must have used it and woke up today 20 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: with blurry vision and my eyes glued shut, So bear 21 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: with me. I got my readers here, my old lady 22 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: glasses just in case I need them. But you know 23 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: who's not an old lady. That's our next guest. That's 24 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: our next guest. Now, this is one of our fellow traders. 25 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: In fact, she was a trader. No, she wasn't a trader, 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: was she? 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 3: She wasn't. 28 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: Why did I think she was? 29 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: He was a trader to me? 30 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: But she was a trader to you, Not to me though, No, no, 31 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: And that's Trachelle Cantonella. I was reading her bio and 32 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: I was like shocked. I didn't know she was a 33 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: playboy model. 34 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: Did you know? Like we had talked about it in 35 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: the house in uh, in. 36 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: The I guess I conversation. I need to see I 37 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: need to see pictures. But Trischelle is an American reality 38 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: TV contestant, playboy model, actress, and known for appearances on 39 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: MTV reality television series The Real World, Las Vegas, The 40 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: Real World spin off The Challenge, and also appeared on 41 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: other realities to shows such as Surreal Life, Kill Reality, Punk, 42 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Fear Factor, The Traders, Below Deck Mediterranean being her most recent. 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: She's also made appearances on TV ads, music videos, Post Nude, 44 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: and Playboy Magazine, appeared in a horror film Was That Traders? 45 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: That's kind of a horror film, and compete successfully in 46 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: celebrity poker tournaments. 47 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean I'm all in on Bravo, So like, 48 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: how how does that crossover happen? I can't wait to hear, 49 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: Like how do you she like chartered a yacht? Is 50 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: she just bawling? 51 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: Or like yeah so so they you know you have 52 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: you seen below Deck before? 53 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 54 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well she was one of those people that 55 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: chartered that yacht and and you do have to charter them. 56 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: You do have to pay. 57 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to learn, Like what was the 58 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: process is it? 59 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: Just like how does she have to We'll have to 60 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: ask her. I was actually asked to do it one 61 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: year instead I did Ultimate Girls Trip, so I didn't 62 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: get to do it. But it always sound like a. 63 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: Wait, what do you mean? 64 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: You were at you were asked to go on below 65 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: deck and they're like saying you have are you have 66 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: to charter this? 67 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: Or like hey, we're chartering this for you. You just come on. 68 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: There is a charge as a guest that goes on there. 69 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: I feel like they should be paid you. 70 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: That's what I said. That was the argument I said, 71 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: But you know what it is, what it is, and 72 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: they get a lot of people to do it. And 73 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: it looked like a lot of fun. So let's ask 74 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: her how her experience with you. 75 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 3: Do you think it's uncouth to ask her how much 76 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: it was? Like? Can you ask her that? I feel 77 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: like that uncouth? 78 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: No? 79 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: Okay, now I have no idea. I know you're like, 80 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: you may be used to like chartering private. Yes, that's 81 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: being from the I. 82 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: Don't have private, dude, that doesn't happen in my lifestyle. 83 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: I can write and do a duffy voat what's what's 84 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: a duffy voat. 85 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: One of those like little tiny boats that I don't know. 86 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: Isn't it like air? 87 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: It's like electric ant. 88 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask her. 89 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask her, if not for me, but for 90 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: the people wondering like me and you like, how much 91 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: does that cost? 92 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: I know, I mean it's also a discounted rate, but 93 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: it's still I think I'm wondering if maybe the money 94 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: goes towards the the tip at the end, because you know, 95 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: when you chart y'all like that there's a giant tip 96 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: that it has to be. 97 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just know from watching the show. 98 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: And then they complain about all this person's gonna be 99 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: a good tip and this person's not. But yeah, I'm 100 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: excited to hear like behind the scenes. 101 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: We have Trishelle, can I Tella? Hey, hey, it's every 102 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: union it is. You look amazing. 103 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 4: Thank you? So do y'all? 104 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. I have to excuse my swollen eyeballs. 105 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: I had an allergic reaction to my glam yesterday for 106 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: the green screen. Woke up with christy eyeballs. 107 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: So that's horrible. I know, I know, I can't see 108 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: it from here. You look great good. 109 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: I might have to throw my glasses on here and there. 110 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: But how are you? 111 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: I'm good. I've just been so busy and you have. 112 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 4: I was traveling a lot and now I'm kind of 113 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 4: like just done traveling, so I'm kind of just getting 114 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 4: back into the swing of things at home. So yeah, 115 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 4: I'm really happy. 116 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: Can you define a lot? 117 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: Because I'm on Instagram every day in your story like 118 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: you're in seventeen different countries in three and a half weeks, 119 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on? 120 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: Well, I'm actually going to Barcelona again, like uh what 121 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: in two weeks, but only for a week to play poker. 122 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 4: But and then after that I'm done traveling. 123 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: I want to hear about your poker. We'll get to 124 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: that in a minute, but we just went I was 125 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: just reading your bio. You've done a lot of reality shows, 126 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: but one I this is a reality show. But something 127 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: I didn't know about you You were a Playboy model. 128 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did Playboy. How old were you I was, 129 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: Let's see, I was probably twenty four or twenty five. 130 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: Maybe have those pictures like hanging in your house? 131 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: No, no, not at all. My family was. My family's 132 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: so conservative they were freaking out about it. But you 133 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 4: know what, Like I paid off my student loans, I 134 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 4: paid off my car. I was able to, you know, 135 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 4: pay off a lot of things. And so to me, 136 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 4: it was just a job, Like I do things. It's 137 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 4: a job to me. It's not like, oh I want 138 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 4: to go in to like go to the Playboy mansion 139 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 4: every weekend, which I went a couple of times. 140 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, what was that? Like what was what? Like 141 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: the mansion is now like defunct, right, it's no longer 142 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: a thing. 143 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not a thing anymore. 144 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: Was it as wild as people said? It was? Like 145 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: this is my glimpse into like I'm like a just 146 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: an everyday guy, and you like lived in this world. 147 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: What was it like? 148 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: It was pretty wild. I mean I've only went a 149 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: couple of times. They used to always invite me to 150 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: like the Sunday night movie nights or whatever they used 151 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 4: to do with Half and it that wasn't my scene, 152 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: to be honest. So I didn't really go to all 153 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: that stuff. But I would go like bigger parties. 154 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't want to lay in bed with 155 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: Half and watch movies. Yeah, I see, I was not. 156 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 4: I was not that stuff. 157 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: I went to Playboy Mansion one time, but it wasn't 158 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: like like something like that. It was just a big 159 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: party that was going on outside, not even inside. It 160 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 1: was outside by like the grotto and all that stuff. 161 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: But I thought it was really cool. It was like 162 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: when I first started on TV, it was probably twenty eleven, 163 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: and I thought I was pretty dawn cool to be 164 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: able to go to the Playboy mansion. 165 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: It's true. And you could see all the animals. I 166 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: mean he had like monkeys there and everything, and so 167 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: you walk around the property. It's iconic, really, and so yeah, 168 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: I thought that was kind of fun. 169 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking iconic, you've had You've been in reality TV 170 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: since like the heyday, like when it was, you know, 171 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: the first of its kind, and you've been in it, 172 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: You've done so many things. What have you noticed that's 173 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: been the biggest change from the early days of MTV 174 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: where like essentially, you know, you and I have talked 175 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: like you couldn't walk in you couldn't go anywhere, Like 176 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: your life was completely upended with people, pictures, all that stuff. 177 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: How it's transformed, Like what have you seen personally in 178 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: the transition from the early. 179 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: Days to now so much? 180 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 4: I mean, okay, first off, social media. Whenever I first 181 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: started doing television, it was message boards MTV message boards, 182 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: so it wasn't in your face all the time. So 183 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: we choose to go to the message board, which we 184 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: had to do every once in a while just for 185 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: you know, pr reasons, but you didn't have to you 186 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: didn't open it up every day. So that's a huge thing. 187 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: But also on the other end, I missed the boat 188 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: on sponsorship deals, Instagram followers, TikTok, all this sudden stuff, 189 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: So I never made money like that. I really really 190 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: missed that boat. So yeah, I wish in some ways 191 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: that they had social media back then. 192 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: Well, when we get you on a housewives show, you'll 193 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: get all those sponsorships. 194 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know. I mean, they have been talking 195 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: about New Orleans Housewives for so long. I'm not sure 196 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 4: I've been hearing. I was interviewed once, but not again. 197 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm all for it. Yeah, I'm all for it. Like 198 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: when you started reality TV, what year was it. 199 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 4: Two thousand and two. 200 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: Oh, that was even earlier than me. I think I 201 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: started two thousand and eight. We had MySpace. Yeah, we 202 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: had MySpace, which is pretty dawn cool. I thought at 203 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: the rist. 204 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 4: Time friendster my Space. 205 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: I never did friends stir, but MySpace was my jam 206 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: for sure. 207 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: Did you both have castmates in your top eight on MySpace? 208 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: Or were they just like family and friends. 209 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: I like you to be able to play music on 210 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: your MySpace. 211 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I missed that. And then if you switched 212 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: around the order of your top eight, it was like 213 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 4: very like people get mad about it. You can always 214 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 4: tell who was on your ship list by the order 215 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: in which they. 216 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: Were Chrischelle, you are literally an icon when it comes 217 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: to reality TV, especially in the competition world. What influenced 218 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: you to audition for your very first show and how 219 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: did that happen? 220 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: How to go down so I was in college. I 221 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: had I was in my last semester at Southern miss 222 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: and I was a sorority girl, you know, the whole thing. 223 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 4: But I've always been competitive and it played sports my 224 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: entire life. And I heard something on the radio that 225 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 4: was an advertisement for a show called Loss in the USA, 226 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: and it was a cop petition show going around the 227 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: country doing you know, different games and everything, and it 228 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 4: was like, you could win fifty thousand dollars and that 229 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 4: was it. And back in you know, two thousand and one, 230 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: that was a lot of money for me. I had 231 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 4: about that in student loans, and so I was like, Oh, 232 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: I'm going to audition for the show and I'm going 233 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: to go on and I'm gonna win. I just thought 234 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: it was so easy. I auditioned for the show, I 235 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: got cast for the show, but then it got canceled. 236 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 4: And so a couple months later, my phone rings from 237 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 4: the same production company and they were like, did you 238 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: ever think about doing the Real World? And I was like, 239 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 4: I've watched it, but I never thought that I could 240 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 4: be on it. I'm just some normal girl from Mississippi 241 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: and or from Louisiana going to college in Mississippi. And 242 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 4: so that's sort of how the ball got rolling. 243 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: No regrets, regrets, any regrets. No, no, don't. 244 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: I don't live like that. No. 245 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: I So after you're on your first show and it's 246 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: a huge hit, you know, your life definitely changes at 247 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: that point. Did you foresee like the rest of your 248 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: career like that you'd always have this presence on reality TV? 249 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: Or like when you got off the show, what was 250 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: what did you want to do next? 251 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 4: So I wanted to just move to LA and have fun. 252 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 4: I didn't want to like make money or do anything. 253 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: I just kind of wanted to, Like, I had gotten 254 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: a job waiting tables. I found my roommates on Westside 255 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: Reynolds dot com. I was a very normal girl because 256 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: at the time when I moved to LA, my show 257 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 4: hadn't started airing yet. It was kind of delayed, and 258 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 4: we had three months between the last when we lived 259 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: in Vegas and then it started airing, so I didn't 260 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 4: know how big it was going to be. So I 261 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: just got a job waiting tables, and then the show 262 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: started airing and I couldn't wait tables anymore because my 263 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: manager basically fired me because I was getting recognized so much. 264 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: I could not wait my tables, and so I was like, 265 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: all right, this is the. 266 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: Thing that's a true problem. Like I always say that 267 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: to housewives. It's like, find a career. If you don't 268 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: have a career while you're on Housewives, find something that 269 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: you can make money, start a business, because when you're 270 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: done with reality, you can't just go work at Nordstrom. 271 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: You can't go wait tables. 272 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 4: Like yeah, it was. It was really hard, and so 273 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 4: I couldn't even do that. I couldn't even wait tables. 274 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 4: So my dad was like, oh God, how are you 275 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 4: going to make money? You know, he was all stressed 276 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: out about me to be in twenty two living in 277 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 4: LA and we started to do appearances that was whenever 278 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: bar appearances just had started, and we started traveling a lot, 279 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: doing like MTV spring Break, and then I got asked 280 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: to do a challenge and they were like, whoa, she's 281 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: kind of athletic. And I had gotten really messed up 282 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: on that show. So I had to leave. But I 283 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 4: was like, pretty hard, poor you. 284 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: Got physically hurt. 285 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I flipped over a mountain bike until you're ride 286 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 4: on a mountain and cracked my helmet in a half 287 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: two black eyes, messed up my face? Oh shit, it 288 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: was really really really gnarly accident. 289 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: Now that you're okay, now, did they get that on? 290 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: Is that on camera? 291 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: Wants to know? Can we see it? 292 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: No? And you know what, they were so pissed about it. 293 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 4: They were like, this is why cameras need to be 294 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 4: on them all the time. This is the time off day. 295 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 4: Challenges used to have off days. They don't anymore because 296 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 4: so much crazy stuff would happen when the cameras were down, 297 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 4: So they quit doing that. So you now the cameras 298 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: are twenty four to seven on you. 299 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 2: How did they address your departure on the show? Did 300 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: they show you like messed up? 301 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 4: And oh god, yes, I had two black eyes. It's 302 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: on the internet. I will send you that picture. I 303 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 4: look like Sloth from the Goonies. Like my whole head 304 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 4: was so messed up. It was crazy. I looked crazy 305 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 4: and I didn't care. I was like, well, at least 306 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: my whole face was sould and I was like, it 307 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: looks enough to put on makeup for my interviews anymore. 308 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 4: But I stayed and competed after I was messed up, 309 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 4: because you did. Yeah, I tried, But then they were like, 310 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: you can't. I was all bandaged and they were doing 311 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 4: stuff and water and a trooper. Yeah. I tried hard. 312 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: But do you have something coming up next? Are you 313 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: going any new anything you would talk about? 314 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 4: Like, No, I don't have any shows coming up next. 315 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: But I have been like kind of well, I mean, 316 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 4: they asked me to do two challenges since the Traders, 317 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: and I said, Noah. 318 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: Is it true that they asked you the challenge? What 319 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: was it? Forty? Yeah, forty with CT and Johnny Yah, 320 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: they didn't and you said no. 321 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: Yes, because I was just like I heard that it 322 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: was just going to be so hardcore and it was 323 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 4: going to be in Thailand, and I wasn't sure our 324 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 4: Vietnam actually one of the two. I just wasn't sure 325 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: what the conditions were going to be. And I'm too 326 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: spoiled now, like the living conditions mean a lot to me, 327 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: and my privacy means a lot to me. I can't 328 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: go back to that life anymore, especially after doing Traders. 329 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: I feel like I was spoiled with reality TV. 330 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: Is there good money to be made in the challenge? 331 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can. You can make good money. You get 332 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 4: paid to go and then you you know can win 333 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: a lot of money, but honestly, Tamra, I'm I'm at 334 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 4: the point of my life where I don't. It's not 335 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: that important to me. I don't need Yeah, husband, my 336 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: husband does well. We have different businesses, you know, we 337 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 4: have properties. I don't need the challenge money. And for me, 338 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: I have to be happy when I'm filming something to 339 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: do well. So I won't even waste anyone's time to 340 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 4: go on a challenge and devote myself off the first day. 341 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: Would you do big Brother? 342 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: Yes, I would. Oh cool, because it's more cozy, right, 343 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 4: it is. 344 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: Very cozy, but mentally it's very it's a grind, you know. 345 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: I think you would. I think you do very, very well. 346 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: I just laugh because you're saying, like, you know, you're 347 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: spoiled from the traders. And for people that didn't experience 348 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: that compared to the challenge, can you explain how Peacock 349 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: was different than MTV in particular in your experience. 350 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: Oh, they spoke to you like humans and life care 351 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: about you. It was just completely different. I love production. 352 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: I thought that they were awesome. We did have breaks, 353 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: we had off days. They fed us, you know when 354 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: they should. They treated us you know, well, as far 355 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: as mental health goes, they had like a person that 356 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: you know. 357 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was crazy. I've never experienced that before. People 358 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: checking in with you all the time to check on 359 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: your mental health. 360 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: What do they do in the challenge? 361 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: Then if they're talking like feeding you all the time, 362 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: that's like a human need. 363 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: There's a lot of basic human needs that are not 364 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 4: met on challenges. That's why people are so miserable, like. 365 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: Well, like like just give us one like, just give 366 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: us one thing. 367 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: You're like, I can't believe this happened, or this is happening, 368 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: or this happened to me, to. 369 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: Me, okay, personally, Uh, there was a challenge that I 370 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: I cut my foot the very first sign I was 371 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: there because two guys got into a physical altercation and 372 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 4: a glass was broken and the glass was in the 373 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: pool and I was swimming in the pool like living 374 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 4: my life with a glass of wine. Cut my foot 375 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: so bad. I was like, oh my god. I lifted 376 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: my foot out of the pool, just just blood going everywhere. 377 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: I was like, can someone help me? Can someone help me? 378 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 4: Someone gives me a dirty towel that ten people have 379 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 4: already used, put some on my foot and I'm asking 380 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 4: for medical attention. They didn't even have like a medical 381 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 4: person there. Finally, hours later, some medical person shows up, 382 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 4: but there's thirty five people in the house. By the way, 383 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 4: you drinking, you should have someone from medical like there. 384 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 4: So anyway, somebody shows up. She's just like, I think 385 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 4: you're fine. She didn't speak English very well. Long story short, 386 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 4: no medical attention. Three days later, my foot's infected. It's red. 387 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 4: Traveling on the other country, all the things that we 388 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 4: do in the challenge are basically a dirty water. So 389 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: I go. They finally bring me the hospital, but I 390 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: had to beg to be seen. Go to the hospital, 391 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 4: She's like, you are past the point to give you stitches. 392 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 4: They gave me a tet and a shot, and then 393 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: they tried. 394 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: To like like have to cut the foot off. 395 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 4: She was like, you cannot get it wet at all, Like, 396 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 4: don't get it wet. You need to let it heal. 397 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: And then I got in a huge fight with the producer. 398 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 4: We both told each other to go f ourselves, screaming 399 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 4: at each other in front of people in a lobby 400 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: because I didn't want to do the challenge over water. 401 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: Jesus, you would never find that in Bravo or Peacock. 402 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: I've worked for both of them quite a few times. 403 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: And there's medical there's I mean even on Housewives, if 404 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: I go ride my motorcycle, they have like a medic 405 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 1: there where I'm at. There's people that follow you like 406 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: it's nuh uh, that's like a huge lawsuit waiting to happen. 407 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, but also it's like we signed so much in 408 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 4: those contracts that yeah, they're not I mean, somebody could sue, 409 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: but I think that a lot of people just won't. 410 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: I mean, thank god I have like my own health insurance. 411 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: But I saw another girl that same challenge actually have 412 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 4: an asthma attack and they were filming and no one 413 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 4: was giving her an asthma pump. And then I saw 414 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 4: another girl who had an allergy to like MSG that 415 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 4: had a really horrible anaphylactic reaction and apparently she had 416 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: to get an EpiPen on the way to the hot hospital, 417 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 4: like they wouldn't even give her one in the house. 418 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: It was just I saw some crazy stuff and it 419 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: gave me anxiety. 420 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: Remind me never to work for MTV. 421 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: Well me, it's just because I've never like I've seen 422 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: clips of the challenge, But why do people subject themselves 423 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: to this? Has it like you can't be the only 424 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: one that's like, hey, we shouldn't be treated this way? 425 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 3: Or do the people that go on the challenge just 426 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 3: don't care. 427 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 4: Most of them, I'd say about eighty percent don't care. 428 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 4: And that's why they get younger people, newer people. So 429 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 4: the people, like, I'm surprised they even asked me, because 430 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 4: I'm such a pain in the ass, I asked for 431 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 4: a lot. I mean, like I want, I don't. 432 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: I don't think that's being a pain in the ass, 433 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 3: Like I feel like. 434 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: Medic yeah, but you know you're worth yeah. And then 435 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Johnny Bananas has been doing it how many 436 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: years now? 437 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 4: And oh my just keep He and CT are fine. 438 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: Actually I talked to CT after Challenge forty and he 439 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, I wish I could have 440 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: seen your face just by the living conditions and the bathrooms. 441 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: He's like, you would have left. He said it was horrible, 442 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 4: and I think he might be done. 443 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: Actually, oh wow, I thought you're gonna say it's better 444 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 2: and like you should have came. 445 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 3: But no, it's like they haven't changed anything. That's wild, 446 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: that's crazy. 447 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: Oh my god, he said it was really bad. 448 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many people that do these competition shows, 449 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: but they aren't memorable. People like you just they come, 450 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: they go, but you you're sticking around. How did you 451 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: manage to create success from these TV opportunities? 452 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 4: I guess, well, Okay, in the beginning, it's because I 453 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 4: was like the single girl who might make out with 454 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 4: this guy or do this, you know, and kind of 455 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: single girl thing. Those are always fun. 456 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: The girl playboy, Yeah. 457 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 4: That and you know who's she going to date this 458 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 4: season and this whole thing. But then after that, you know, 459 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 4: when I had a boyfriend or I was just just 460 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 4: I think I don't have a problem telling someone to 461 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: their face what I think about them, And a lot 462 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: of people get nervous and they think it's going to 463 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 4: affect their game. I don't care, actually, and like I 464 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 4: I can't hold my tongue and so I think that 465 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 4: got me into a lot of trouble but also gets 466 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 4: people more attention, and so yeah, I think that's probably why. 467 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 4: But there's also like I did what four or five challenges, 468 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 4: one of them I got second place, and I really 469 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 4: kicked ass on that show. So I mean I'm pretty athletic, 470 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 4: Like I can, I can do it when I want to. 471 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: Well, what's surprising? 472 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: What surprising me is like, you know, you're extremely memorable, 473 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: but the time we spent together on the show, I 474 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: never felt like you were acting for attention. I'm like, Okay, 475 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: this is mill just be and Chrichelle, you know, like, 476 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: and I feel like there's got to be an element 477 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: of authenticity with you, and I think that you know, 478 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna speak for you. I feel like that kind 479 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: of bleeds through with who you are. Everyone knows who 480 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: you are because I feel like and tam Or you 481 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: probably speak to this on the show as you're on. 482 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: There's a lot of like posing of like this is 483 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: who I'm trying. 484 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this bigness. Now, I agree with you down 485 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. When we met, I thought, you know, 486 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: in the castle, I thought, oh my god, she's so sweet, 487 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: she's so kind, she's so down to earth. And then 488 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm like hearing people watch out for her. 489 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: She's like a competition reality girl. 490 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 4: Yes, but and you know, there were moments that I 491 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: think that I was like not the kindest or nicest, 492 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 4: but not not that I mean, I kind of am 493 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 4: who I am. If it's game competition, then I will 494 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 4: kind of say my piece. But yeah, I think that 495 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 4: I'm pretty genuine as far as when I do these shows. 496 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 4: I don't do it for fame. It's like a job 497 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: for me. I treat it like a job really, and 498 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 4: so a lot of it Like if it's a competition show, 499 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 4: then I'm going over there to win, except for the challenges, 500 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 4: but I'm not having fun and I just leave. I've 501 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 4: hoded myself off challenges like three times. 502 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: By the way, well you won, Traders. Let's talk about 503 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: Traders a little bit. Who do you still talk to? 504 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 4: I talked to Bergie, Sandra, Janelle, Peter, you guys kate 505 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 4: every once in a while on Instagram. Who else? Peppermant, no, 506 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 4: she will not speak to me, and you know, she 507 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 4: spoke at Peter's house after the reunion. We spoke briefly 508 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 4: and I thought that that everything was fine, and I 509 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 4: was like, you know, I'm going to respect her space 510 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: and I would really like to have a conversation with you. 511 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: And she's like, Okay, I'm gonna write you like in 512 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 4: a month or whatever because we're both going on trips. 513 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: And she never did. 514 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was a hard time for you 515 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: when you know that aired, and I remember talking with 516 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: you and you're like, yeah, god, I'm getting so much hate, 517 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: Like this is this normal? I'm like, yeah, Carl, that's 518 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon for me. 519 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 4: You made me feel so good. My husband was like, 520 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: call Tamra, Text Tamra. You have to know she because 521 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: for sure she knows. And I was like, okay, So yeah, 522 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: I asked you was normal. You're like, oh, yeah, yeah, 523 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 4: that's it. 524 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the downfall of social media nowadays 525 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: with reality TV is like, holy the hate that you 526 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: get is just insanity. And you didn't do anything wrong. 527 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 4: No, I don't. 528 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: I don't know playing the game yea. 529 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: And when somebody accidentally says I'm a trader, and it's 530 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: early on in the show, yeah, you're like, if you're 531 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: saying you're a trader, you're okay, I'm gonna vote for you. 532 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I definitely went hard for her, but 533 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 4: I also went hard for other people too, and so yeah, 534 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: I don't know. But whenever you told me that it 535 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: was normal, I felt a sense of relief. But then 536 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,959 Speaker 4: I also felt like, oh my god, this is like 537 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 4: the day and age that we live in, people are 538 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: absolutely nuts what they'll say to you. 539 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: You're like, what do I do? Do I make a statement? 540 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: I'm like, nope, just let it tomorrow next week's episode. 541 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: It'd be totally different. Now, great advice. Yeah, do you 542 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: have any predictions for who you think might win season three? 543 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 4: If you were a bet and girl, which I know 544 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: you are, Yeah, you know what. I feel like they 545 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: might get rid of the gamers pretty early now because 546 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 4: this was such a big thing with our season was 547 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 4: like gamers non gamers, that kind of thing, and so 548 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 4: I feel like those people might go pretty early. I 549 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 4: don't know, though, Uh who is I mean, who do 550 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 4: you guys think? I'm trying to think who else? Who 551 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 4: else is on it? 552 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: I have I can't even remember. I know there's a 553 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: few housewives on it. Delores, right, Dolores is on it. 554 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: Then there's. 555 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see Boston. 556 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: Rob So you know that you the gamers, you're for 557 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: the gamers. I'm there for the housewives, Derinda, Dolores, Chanelle, Robin. 558 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: Then they had like Britney Spears's ex husband there see 559 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: I could see Dolores and Robin doing well. 560 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: Because I think that they're both like badasses but likable, 561 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 4: but like might stay out of the drama a little bit. 562 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: Did we have any athletes on this season? 563 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: Mishelle? I know you like Big Brother. How do you 564 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: think one of my favorites, Britney Haynes, is going to 565 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: do Oh. 566 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 4: I think she'll do well. She's actually I hope she 567 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 4: stayed just for her soundbites. Really like, I think that 568 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 4: she's really good in it and I always enjoy that. 569 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 4: I think she'll do well, but she might pop off 570 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: a little bit. She doesn't have to be careful. I 571 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 4: don't know. 572 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 3: So, so you won season two. 573 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: What do you think allowed you to have success and 574 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 2: win the whole show? 575 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: What brought you that success? 576 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: And looking back on everything you did, the moves you made, 577 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: what do you attribute your success to. 578 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 4: So I had a really really good mindset going in. 579 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 4: I was just like so positive, and I feel like 580 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 4: that really sets the tone for the rest of the show. 581 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 4: And So I was reading this book called Unbroken, and 582 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: it's about this like ex Olympic athlete who is like, 583 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: you know, then he became a pow and he survived 584 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 4: all these crazy obstacles in his life and all these 585 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: crazy things. It's like a true survival book. It's also 586 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 4: talks about his faith a lot. So every night when 587 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 4: I got home from the castle, on the way back, 588 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 4: I would go through my head what happened that day. 589 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: I would immediately go and write it down in my 590 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: notebook that everyone made fun of me for. I'd write 591 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 4: it down. I'd take a shower, I would go through 592 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 4: scenarios about what would happen the next day. Then I 593 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: would go read a chapter of my book, and then 594 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 4: I would pray, and then I'd go to bed and 595 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 4: I would have the same exact thing the next so repetition. 596 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: Wow. 597 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 4: I was very, very just dialed in and focused. And 598 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 4: I did that every single night that I got home, 599 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 4: and in that order, and it just I think, what 600 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 4: time did you get home depends because sometimes you have 601 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 4: to stay there so late, I know. 602 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: So it's like not you have to sacrifice your sleep 603 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: to strategize your game exactly. 604 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. 605 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 2: It's interesting to me to hear say, okay, you took 606 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 2: your notes, but then you took the next step and 607 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: ran essentially like simulations or potential outcomes and probabilities in 608 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: your head, which leads us to you're now like your 609 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: professional poker player. 610 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: How did you jump? Where did that come about for you? 611 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: Because that's a fairly big jump to go from like, 612 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: you know, early days of MTV to you know, being 613 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: a staple on. 614 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 3: The poker circuit and the female stuff. 615 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 4: I started playing poker just recreationally about when I was 616 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 4: twenty five, I think, and then I started doing these 617 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 4: local in Los Angeles charity tournaments and kind of these 618 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 4: home games at people's houses, like Mark Wohlberg had a 619 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: home game like all these other people, right, and so 620 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 4: it was pretty fun to play with people, but it 621 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 4: was more light and lighthearted. Well, then I kind of 622 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: started doing really well in the in the charity poker 623 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 4: turnament circuit, and a couple of pros had realized that 624 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 4: and they were like this one. Annie Duke is like. 625 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: This shit's like a legend. 626 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, the legend. She's one of the best poker players 627 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: in the world. So she sat down and talked to 628 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 4: me and kind of gave me a couple of lessons. 629 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 4: Phil Locke is another one. Yeah. So actually Jennifer Tilly 630 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: is Philock's girlfriend, and she's going to be on the 631 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 4: next Beverly Hills Housewife. 632 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 633 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 4: So there's a connection, and all roads lead back to Bravo. 634 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: All roads lead back to Bravo. Now, because you are 635 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: in the gambling world, we can call it that. Have 636 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: you followed the gambling scandal on Orange County, Oh with Otani? 637 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: I think it's his name, the baseball player. 638 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 4: But I heard about it, but I wasn't. I did 639 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 4: not realize that that was related to some or that 640 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 4: was a. 641 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: Husband of boyfriend. 642 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 4: Boyfriend? Is Kate Katies? Is that her name? No, Jen, 643 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 4: I did not realize that was the same person because 644 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: I had heard about this before. Is this really? Is 645 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 4: he going to jail? Like what? 646 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't know, you don't know. There's 647 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: an FBI investigation. 648 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 4: That's really crazy. 649 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: Let me pivot from the FBI. One more poker question 650 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: for you. 651 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: So, as you play in these poker tournaments, you start 652 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: to do while you're I kind of look as like 653 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: iron being sharpened and sharpen. Yeah, what what have you 654 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: been able to take from that? And did you what 655 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: are those skills did you use in the traders to win? 656 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: So I feel like you were like low key. I 657 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: feel like no one there really knew the depth of 658 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: your poker You know acumen. Yeah, do you remember scenarios 659 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: or times and you're like, okay, this is like I've 660 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: done this before, but with cards or you know, lean 661 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: down your skills. 662 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, one hundred percent, like round tables, like keeping 663 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 4: your cool and stuff, because like there's something in poker 664 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 4: you can tell when people are breathed. I mean I 665 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: did it the other day when I was playing poker. 666 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: Whenever I was in a hand with someone, I could 667 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 4: tell that he was nervous and he was bluffing me 668 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 4: because I could see his heart beating out of his chest. 669 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 4: And you know, Dan, whenever people were calling you out 670 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 4: at the roundtable, I looked at you and I could 671 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: see the same thing, Like I could see like your chest, 672 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 4: like you're breathing and stuff. And it's just like little 673 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: things you can look at people. So I did use 674 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 4: some of that at the round table. But my whole 675 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 4: thing is like I love to be underestimated sometimes and 676 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 4: are like I hate, don't underestimate me. I'm like, please 677 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 4: underestimate me, please. I love to prove people wrong and 678 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 4: I like to surprise people, like go ahead, please think 679 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 4: that I'm stupid, think that you know I suck at 680 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: this well, I don't. 681 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: Think anybody thinks you're stupid. But anyways, but I will 682 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: tell you, if I didn't know all of this and 683 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: I just met you at the castle in Scotland, I 684 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: would be like, oh my god, she's so sweet, she's 685 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: so kind, Like is she gonna make it far? Because 686 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: she's just so sweet? And I'm like now no, And 687 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm like damn yeah, I'm like, what's next? Are you 688 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: an assassin? Like what is going on to me? 689 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 4: Like, there's a difference between like being sweet in your 690 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 4: everyday life and being like a kind person and then 691 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 4: like going hard in gameplay. And I enjoy competition. I 692 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: really do in all aspects. 693 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: Well, I'm kind of like that, although it's not a competition. 694 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: Well that's kind of a competition. On Housewives. Is like 695 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: just very sweet and kind at home and kind of 696 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: have a little bit of social anxiety and don't talk 697 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: that much, and then as soon as the camera comes 698 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: out or the microphone and I'm like, game on, let's 699 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: do this. 700 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 4: But that's how I know that you guys would be 701 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 4: so good at the roundtable, because I feel like every 702 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 4: episode of the Housewife is like a round tables. 703 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, when did you find 704 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: out that Dan was a trader? 705 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 4: That Dan was a trader. 706 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 3: I've always talked about her winning. 707 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: When did you figure out? Was it early on in 708 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: the game, was it later in the game, or did 709 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: you know? 710 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: Okay? Uh? Janelle told me pretty early on she had 711 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 4: a good feeling that Dan was a trader, and I 712 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 4: was just like, well, I don't know. That seems so obvious, 713 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 4: like because he's like a legend, and that just seems 714 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 4: too obvious for me that they would have him as 715 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 4: a trader. And then when I talked to Dan, he 716 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 4: refused to give me a name. Okay, all right, So 717 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 4: to me, I was like, okay, there's something up with 718 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 4: that guy, like no way like and then I was 719 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 4: just like, Dan, you're gonna have and so yeah, I 720 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 4: kind of started. 721 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: Were you checking his heartbeat at any given moment to 722 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: make sure he wasn't. 723 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: Lying whenever everybody was coming at him at that roundtable, 724 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 4: I knew for sure. 725 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. One podcast we had together, 726 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: we were like, let's talk about your exit speech. Dan. 727 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: He's like, let's not. 728 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: So. So you did a phenomenal job in Traders. 729 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: It was fun to watch I felt like, you're very calculated, 730 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 2: especially like post mortem, right like when I'm watching the show, 731 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: You're very calculated. I felt like you did a phenomenal 732 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: job and you deserve to win. But I, you know, 733 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: not to bring up drama, but at the end, what 734 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: was your take on dealing with gamers versus non gamers? 735 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: And then where does that stand? 736 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 4: Now? Wait? What do you mean which part? 737 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: Like? 738 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 3: So you won the show? 739 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: And then there were some people who are like, Okay, 740 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: this is a game, and there are some people who 741 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: are like. 742 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 4: Okay, you talking about MJ. 743 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: I know, I'm like you talking about MJ. 744 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 4: Yes, what is my take on it? Okay, I do 745 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 4: understand someone like MJ who doesn't come from like a 746 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 4: gaming background. For her, it was like a shocking and 747 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 4: very cutthroat and manipulative move that you know what happened 748 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 4: at the end. But to me, like I said before, 749 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 4: I really did think that CT could be a trader. 750 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: So that's kind of and once I threw the pouch 751 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 4: and I couldn't take it back, so I had to. 752 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 4: I had to vote her out when I thought was 753 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 4: a trader, Yeah, I thought he could have been recruited 754 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 4: later on. So but I mean, that's just kind of 755 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 4: the name of the game. And it's like people are 756 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 4: mad at Suri for the same thing. But it's that's 757 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 4: just how it goes. And so you're never going to 758 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 4: win a show and it be completely clean. I mean, Dan, 759 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 4: you know from Big Brother, people had beef with you 760 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 4: as well and said said things, and it's just that's 761 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 4: how it goes. 762 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: Like where do you stand with m J now? She 763 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: told me that she. 764 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 4: Was gonna unblock me, but I haven't checked. I don't 765 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 4: know if she did or not. We talked in LA. 766 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 4: She was fine, she was completely fine. 767 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 3: I think you both share a character trait. 768 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: You guys are both very authentic, genuine and kind and 769 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: sweet people. 770 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 3: But that is not mutually exclusive from playing a game hard. 771 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: You know, like just because you played hard doesn't mean 772 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: you're not sweet, kind, authentic in those things. So as 773 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: you move forward from this, because I think the next 774 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: competition show you're going to be on, I think the 775 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: gigs up, Like you can't like you can't hide under this, like, oh, 776 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 2: I'm just nice to shell anymore because people that. 777 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like a killer. You've done You've you slayed 778 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 3: a bunch of peace assassin. 779 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, there should be a competition show about assassins. 780 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 4: Well, people forget I think that, like because I don't 781 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 4: talk about it a lot, that I have done all 782 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 4: these challenges and that I did, like if I really 783 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 4: want to win something, I'll win it. Like I won 784 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 4: Fear Factor and I was like the last woman standing 785 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 4: on a wrestling show with like you know, a bunch 786 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 4: of people, the whole Cogan Wrestling show. I've done this 787 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 4: stuff and like. 788 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 3: Wait, what show is that? 789 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 4: It was called Celebrity Wrestling Championship and obviously did not 790 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 4: go anywhere. It was on CMT a long time ago. 791 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 4: It was pretty funny, like Fear Factor. 792 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: But Fear Factor, Oh my god, that's one show that 793 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: that did you have? When'd you have to eat? 794 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 4: I didn't have to eat anything. I told I would not. 795 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 4: I said I'm not eating anything, and they did not 796 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 4: make anybody eat stuff. 797 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: Well, I said with Traders that I'm claustrophobic. I'm not 798 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 1: being buried alive. It ain't happening. 799 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was surprised they didn't do that. 800 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: I know no way. 801 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: So shall I have to ask about the Bravo crossover? 802 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: So my wife's watching. She always watches Bravo and all 803 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 2: of a sudden, like below decks on. I'm like, oh, 804 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 2: trisall like how does that happen? 805 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: Like how you everywhere? 806 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 4: I filmed that before Traders? Okay I did, yeah. 807 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 3: And then how does that work? Like how do you? 808 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 3: How do you end up on below Deck? 809 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 4: So I can't believe it took them a year to 810 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 4: air the show. So we filmed it like last summer, 811 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 4: and this is before I even found out for sure 812 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 4: that I was going to do The Traders. And my 813 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 4: friend Brittany was like, you know, let's she was looking 814 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 4: into yachts like in Greece, and she was like, it's 815 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 4: actually like a little bit better of a deal if 816 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 4: we go on below deck. You still have to pay 817 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 4: for it, but like it's a little little better of 818 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 4: a deal. And she's like, wouldn't it be a fun experience? 819 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't think they're gonna pick 820 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 4: us to be on below deck because she did America's 821 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 4: Next Top Model. She's one of my best friends, and 822 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 4: I did Real World. I was like, I don't think 823 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 4: that they want like all these other shows on below deck, 824 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 4: but they totally did. They were like, oh my god, 825 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 4: we had so much fun. I'm so glad that they 826 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 4: didn't show a lot of our last night that we 827 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 4: were on there. We all got like blackout drunk. 828 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, HOLLI. 829 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 4: Didn't show Wow, Captain Sandy told me to go to bed. 830 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: Don't you love Captain Sandy? 831 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 4: She is the best. I absolutely adored her. She's so 832 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 4: cool and she's so pretty in person. Wow, I didn't 833 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 4: expect she's like flawless. 834 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 2: Michelle Tamer had a question to ask you about below Deck, 835 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: but she's a little bashful to ask. 836 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: What remember you? You were asking you? 837 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: Like, Dan, should I ask to Selle how much it 838 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: cost to go below deck? 839 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 3: And I said, I don't know if we should ask 840 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 3: her that. You don't remember that? 841 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: So foolish, Dan, you said that can you. 842 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 3: Give us a window? Could you give us a window? 843 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 2: Like roughly, I don't know how much it costed charter 844 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 2: yeat like much because they asked. 845 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: Me to do it. 846 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 4: Okay, so okay, I don't know about how much it 847 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 4: was for you. I think for us it was about 848 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 4: like twenty five thousand per couple for like two days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 849 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 4: I think you know. 850 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: And then we tipped that like twelve thousand a person. 851 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, wes for two days, right, and then I think 852 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 4: they had three day ones, but we didn't do it. 853 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: Was the every day that that well, I'd never end 854 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: up doing it because I had to do Ultimate Girl. 855 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: I did Ultimate Girls strip instead. But I was always 856 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: concerned because when we film our reality show, you know, Housewives, 857 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: there's no music. You have to you know what I mean. 858 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: It's like, is it really there's any party if there's 859 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: no music. 860 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 4: There's no music. But we were so entertained by there 861 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 4: was just constant food, constant drinks, and the toys, and 862 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 4: they kept you so entertained that you didn't realize. 863 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: How much out of the day did you actually film, 864 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: because the show is really based on you know, the 865 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: people on the crew. Oh the crew. 866 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, so they filmed. They filmed us pretty all 867 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 4: a lot, I guess. But then they took our mics 868 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 4: at like eleven pm. They would just take your mic 869 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 4: and be like, if you're gonna go to bed, just 870 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 4: pretend like you're gonna go to bed, and then go 871 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 4: back up if you want to hand out, like they 872 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 4: didn't care. But and then they have stationary cameras like 873 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 4: in case something crazy happens like someone breaks their neck 874 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 4: or whatever whenever everyone's asleep. But yeah, it's so Yeah, 875 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 4: it's not that much. I didn't think it was that 876 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 4: expensive for all what we got. Yeah, and then we 877 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 4: paid it actually to watch it. 878 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. 879 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it was like normal. But it's funny to 880 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,959 Speaker 4: see my husband on TV because he's like a normal guy. 881 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 4: And I was like, I got so excited. I was like, 882 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,959 Speaker 4: there's John, Like, I mean kind of you probably felt 883 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 4: the same way with Eddie. 884 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: How is he when the cameras came up? Was he natural? 885 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: Was he nerve? Was he stilly? Like just himself? 886 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 4: He was a natural. He was good. I actually think 887 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 4: that he liked the camera. I was like, oh, you're 888 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 4: one of those. 889 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: I was like, babe, when's our next reality show? 890 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 4: I think he would do one. Honestly, he enjoyed it. 891 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 4: He thought it was really cool. 892 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: Well, if you come move to Orange County, you know, 893 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: we're always looking for good cast members. 894 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. I could think of a few on your show 895 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 4: that I'd like to take the place, though, just because 896 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 4: I'm done watching them. 897 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: I came to that spot spot as well. 898 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 2: Speaking of next shows, are there any competition shows that 899 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 2: you haven't done yet that you're like, I would love 900 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 2: to play and compete in this. 901 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, I actually was talking to someone. I don't 902 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 4: even know if I should say this. Well, I did 903 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 4: talk to someone about Deal or No Deal Island too, 904 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 4: but they took someone else and I won't say who 905 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 4: it is from our traders cast on it and so 906 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 4: so when someone else is doing it, which I'm very 907 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 4: excited to watch this person, but I think I would 908 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 4: do so well in Deal and o'deal Island because it's 909 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 4: a lot of statistics as well as competition, and I'm 910 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 4: good with statistics. Hello poker, And so I was like, damn, 911 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 4: I'm so bunks. I feel like I could have won 912 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 4: that show. But whatever, next season maybe yeah, maybe next season. 913 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 4: But big Brother would be like I love Big Brother 914 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 4: so much? 915 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: Wrong with you? Who want to stay in a house 916 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 1: for however long month? Two months with people you don't 917 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: really know? 918 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I like the mental aspect of 919 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 4: it because I see people really falling apart on that show, 920 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 4: and I find it very interesting when people can't mentally 921 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 4: handle stuff. I like it. 922 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: Do you use your expertise in gaming with your husband 923 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: and your relationship you too, Dan, is that something you 924 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: use like? I feel like I don't know that i'd 925 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: want to be married to a gamer. They can really 926 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: play you. 927 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 3: I can say this really quick story. 928 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 2: So when I drove my kids and I dropped them 929 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 2: off at summer camp today, and they know when they're 930 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 2: in the car with dad, they get like a little. 931 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 3: Fruit flavored tiktach. 932 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 2: So I have a seven or eight year old six 933 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 2: year old and my two year old daughter, and so 934 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 2: I get my all tiktak and they all think it's funny. 935 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, my my daughter starts crying. 936 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 2: She's like, Dad, I drop my tic tech. I dropped 937 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 2: my tic tech. I turn around to give her another one. 938 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: She smiles at me, opens her hand and she has 939 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 2: the other one in there. So she played me for 940 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 2: two tic tacks. I think it might be genetic. But 941 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 2: do you do like you if you want to get 942 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 2: something done, Y's like gamesmanship, not manipulation. 943 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: Okay, what I. 944 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 4: Don't I don't have to manipulate my husband because he 945 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 4: never tells me no. He always says yes. But I 946 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 4: mean he thinks it's so cool that I play poker. 947 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 4: And he wants to learn, and he's always like, teach me, 948 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 4: teach me. But I'm like, no, you were a fighter pilot, 949 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 4: you did all this cool stuff in your life, Like, 950 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 4: let this be my cool thing. So I don't even 951 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 4: want him to learn because he's very, very smart, and 952 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 4: I know that he would like end up killing it. 953 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 4: So I'm like, no, like, let me have my thing 954 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 4: and you do your thing. 955 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 2: So Shishaw, as we wrap things up here, You've had 956 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 2: an amazing reality TV career and you've done so many 957 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 2: different things and you've been ever like pivot and do 958 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 2: pretty much. 959 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 3: Whatever you've wanted. 960 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 2: What at this point in your life, what does success 961 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 2: look like to you now? And what continues to push 962 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 2: you and what are you shooting for? 963 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 4: Ah? I mean, I feel like I already was on 964 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 4: and won the greatest show that's on TV right now. 965 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 4: I mean, y'all for Emmy is like that's I know. 966 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 4: So it's so exciting just to be a part of 967 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 4: the show. And so I'm like, am I gonna get 968 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 4: another show that's better than this? I don't know. I mean, uh, 969 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 4: I think that I would love to do more television 970 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 4: and even if it's a show that's non that's reality, 971 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 4: that's non competition. I would love to do that as well. 972 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 4: I would love a Housewives show. I mean I told 973 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,919 Speaker 4: Andy that, He's like, we'll see, but yeah, I would 974 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 4: love that. I think it'd be fun and I just 975 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 4: want to And then I use some of my money 976 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 4: to invest in a medical company from the traders that 977 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 4: I won. So I'm kind of diversifying a little bit 978 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 4: because we were we talked about this Dan that we 979 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 4: were doing real estate stuff and now I'm kind of 980 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 4: doing medical stuff. 981 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know, you know, you've been on a 982 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 1: lot of competition shows, You've won a lot of money. 983 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: Is there something that you do, Like do you like 984 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: I'm going to take X amount and you know, buy 985 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: something nice for myself or I invest it or because 986 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: there's so many people that win prizes and they just 987 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: shit their money away. 988 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, investing is really what I'm focused on right now, 989 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 4: investing and doing like little small business opportunities here and there. 990 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 4: I really am more focusing on kind of being an 991 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 4: entrepreneur more. And you know, my sister in law just 992 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 4: started a winery, so we'll probably be doing stuff with that. 993 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 4: And so yeah, there's like a lot of opportunities, but 994 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 4: I always buy myself nice things like you should see 995 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 4: in my closet right now across. 996 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: Keep moving girl. Yeah yeah. If you can give one 997 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: piece of advice to listeners who are interested in auditioning 998 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: for the Challenge or Traders or Big Brother or anything 999 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: like that, what would it be? 1000 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I think, uh, don't try too hard. 1001 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 4: I feel like now the people on there, they try 1002 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 4: so hard, and in their audition tapes, it's just like, 1003 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 4: really be yourself. If you are having a day where 1004 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 4: you don't want to be like super, you know, over 1005 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,919 Speaker 4: the top, then show that, and you know, then your 1006 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 4: next interview you might feel differently and they'll be like, oh, 1007 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 4: this person is not faking the whole time. I don't know. 1008 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 4: It's hard because I don't know what they look for now. 1009 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 4: I don't even know why I'm still on telepone. 1010 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: I think that's great. Is it don't try? That's actually 1011 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: what got me cast on Housewives is I just didn't try. 1012 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: Like they're like, here's an application, it's seven hundred and 1013 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: ninety two pages, go ahead and fill it out and 1014 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: submit it. I'm like, then they call me, did you 1015 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 1: fill it out? I'm like, no, okay, well we still 1016 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: want to see you. Okay, you know, it's just didn't. 1017 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 4: That's exactly me for the real world. It took me 1018 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 4: months to fill out. They were like all they were like, 1019 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 4: you were cast. All you have to do is fell 1020 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 4: out the paperwork and just like film a video to 1021 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 4: show that you tried. And it took me so long. 1022 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I was just like, no, if it's 1023 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: meant to be, it's meant to be. I'm not going 1024 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: to break my back trying to prove that, you know, 1025 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm the girl that you want. But Dan asked you 1026 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: about what success looks to your life, and you answered 1027 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: that now has the idea of success changed from when 1028 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: you've gotten older gained more life experience. 1029 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I think so because I did shit away 1030 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 4: a lot of my money in the beginning. When I 1031 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 4: was telling you earlier about how I did all these 1032 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 4: appearances and everything. In my twenties, I made so much 1033 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,439 Speaker 4: money I could own a house in Los Angeles right now, 1034 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 4: and all I did was take my friends on trips 1035 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 4: and pay money thirty thousand dollars for a table in 1036 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 4: Vegas with a bunch of bottles for strangers. I think, 1037 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 4: good girl, really really stupid things with my money, And 1038 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 4: I think that what I would tell any right now 1039 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 4: is to like be smart, invest and be careful, don't 1040 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 4: just like go crazy in the beginning. So yeah, I 1041 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 4: think back and I'm like, I could have done so 1042 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 4: much more. 1043 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 3: But was there a moment when You're like, I got 1044 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 3: to stop this or I mean it's yeah, like somebody, yeah, 1045 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 3: spending like thirty thousand dollars for a night out or whatever. 1046 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, whenever they stopped paying me five grand for appearances 1047 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 4: and they started people were doing it for five hundred, 1048 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 4: and I realized that they could get three people for 1049 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 4: the price of one, and I was like, oh, maybe 1050 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 4: I should have saved my money. 1051 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: I've done that too, Like I spent fifty thousand dollars 1052 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: for a house and actually my husband did it for 1053 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,240 Speaker 1: my birthday, but fifty thousand for a house in Cabo, 1054 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: Like this giant house invited like twenty people to come 1055 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 1: and celebrate my birthday. 1056 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 4: That's a lot, but it's I bet it was epic though. 1057 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, you know, sometimes it's nice to do 1058 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: something like that. It's fun, but I rarely nowadays, like 1059 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: I'm like you. I just I don't give a shit 1060 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: if people think I'm dirt ass poor or I'm just 1061 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: investing my money and I'm not the girl that shows up, 1062 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: you know, with drenched in Chanelle or Gucci. I'm like, not, 1063 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: you know what, I wear my clothes once on the 1064 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: show once exactly. Yeah, I'm gonna put my money where 1065 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna make me money. 1066 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 4: That's not important. And you know it's funny. It's like 1067 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 4: a lot of the girls that I hear that are 1068 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 4: interviewing for New Orleans Housewives or whatever, these are the 1069 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 4: girls that really it's like you're wearing every dime you. 1070 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: Have, right, That's like one of my biggest pet peeves 1071 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: are actually like girls that come on the show franchises 1072 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 1: all over for Housewives, and they're wearing Faketionel and they're 1073 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: wearing like, if you're gonna wear Fictionel, make sure Chanel 1074 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: makes that yeah, because you look you look ridiculous. 1075 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 4: That is so crazy to me. Yeah, I mean I'd 1076 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 4: rather just wear she and than fake Chanel. 1077 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: Right, That's what I say. I'd rather go to Target 1078 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: than Yeah. Yeah, Well, thank you so much, Dan, Do 1079 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: you have any more questions? 1080 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 2: No, I'm just learning about like now, I'm like, I'm 1081 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 2: it's a learning experience every podcast, and I'm glad I'm 1082 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 2: here to just soak. 1083 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 3: It all in. And I learned. I've learned about extensions. 1084 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 3: I've learned today about glitter in the eyes. You know, 1085 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 3: I've learned a lot. 1086 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, you have an extensions. I'm like, do 1087 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: you think this shit's real? 1088 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1089 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't it be? I don't know. 1090 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 4: I have a question for you guys. So, Tamra, after 1091 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 4: doing The Traders, and I wish to god that you 1092 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 4: would have stayed longer. I was so bummed whenever you left. 1093 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 4: You left because you're very competitive too. Do you think 1094 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 4: that you would do another competition type show? Oh? 1095 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,439 Speaker 2: Boy? 1096 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: Being away from my house and my family for you know, 1097 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: three to four weeks is tough for me. And I 1098 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: knew that going in, and I kind of had myself 1099 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: psyched out and I was scared and nervous. I don't 1100 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 1: know that I'll do one like that. I could do. 1101 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: I would do like a physical competition show. I just 1102 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: wish they'd give you your damn phone like I had. 1103 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: I still have a daughter at home, you know, in 1104 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 1: businesses and it's like very hard to disconnect and go 1105 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: another country where you're so far away with zero communication. 1106 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: That's the toughest part for me. The the physical part 1107 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,240 Speaker 1: of it I love, I absolutely love, and then the mind. 1108 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: I can do that all day long. 1109 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 4: Yes, you know what I told Andy when I last 1110 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 4: time I did watch What Happens Live, I said, I 1111 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 4: want you to do a challenge, but for housewives, like 1112 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 4: a Housewives game. 1113 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: I've been saying that forever. I've been saying that it 1114 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: needs to happen. I would I would do the House 1115 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 1: of Villains. I would do that. 1116 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 3: Oh you villain everyone. 1117 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, but there's like, yeah, like Teresa was on it, 1118 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,439 Speaker 1: she's not exactly a villain. Like there's like there's other 1119 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 1: housewives that have done it, and I think it's like 1120 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more relaxed. You're not there as 1121 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: long you're in LA, you're allowed to use your phone 1122 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: like something like that. I would feel more comfortable. 1123 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, I would love it to see you on that. Dan, 1124 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,240 Speaker 4: what about you? No more? Big brother? 1125 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 2: I mean I feel very very much the way you 1126 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 2: do about the Traders is like, you know, I love 1127 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 2: my time my big brother but Peacocks set the bar 1128 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 2: so high, and it's like, unless it's that or better. 1129 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they'll have like an all Star Traders 1130 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: and both of you guys will be on it. 1131 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,439 Speaker 4: You too, No too, no longer. 1132 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: I was there like four episodes sicker than a dog. 1133 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,959 Speaker 1: So you see that's why you need to say i'd 1134 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: have PTSD going back. Oh well, thank you guys so much. Yes, 1135 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: it was great catching up. When you're gonna come out 1136 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,439 Speaker 1: this way anytime soon? 1137 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, hopefully soon. 1138 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 2: My question real quick, do you think like if we 1139 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 2: ask for one of the because I think they're gonna 1140 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 2: win multi Emmies, do you think we can ask for 1141 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 2: them to like slice one of them up into twenty pieces? 1142 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 3: That's a fair question. 1143 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: We just get a mini, give us a mini, yes, 1144 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: like a little cute one, like a key chain version. 1145 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 1: I mean, it is pretty damn cool to be on 1146 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: a cast that's in a show that's nominated for an 1147 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: Emmy and you know they're gonna win. Yeah, they won 1148 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: last year? 1149 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 4: Right? 1150 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 1: Do they win last year too? 1151 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 3: They're just nominated. 1152 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 4: I think they're just nominated one. 1153 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: Well, it just win in this year, and I have 1154 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: a hard time believing they're going to be able to 1155 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: beat the cast they had for season two. 1156 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 4: I was thinking that too. Everyone keeps asking me that 1157 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 4: as well, and I just but, you know what, I'm 1158 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 4: not sure how you guys felt. I didn't know that 1159 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 4: it was going to be such a huge success when 1160 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,879 Speaker 4: I was there. I remember being at the round table 1161 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 4: a couple times and being like, God, THEA sure just 1162 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 4: say that. I was like, that's hysterical or just like 1163 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 4: thinking these things, But I wasn't sure how everybody else 1164 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 4: would receive it. So, I mean, maybe this cast might 1165 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,879 Speaker 4: surprises with the dynamics between them. 1166 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope it does. 1167 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 4: Well, we'll see. I'm excited. I'll be watching. Well. 1168 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We appreciate you taking the time 1169 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: to us. 1170 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 4: I miss y'all, Tamara. I want to come visit you 1171 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 4: guys in Big Bear. 1172 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: Yes, let me know when. I love that, let me 1173 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: know when. 1174 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,839 Speaker 3: Thanks Chelle, we really appreciate it. 1175 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:51,839 Speaker 4: Thank you much. 1176 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 1: By great week back