1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Theists. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 2: and everybody. 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: You don't know if you don't lie about that. Right, Hey, y'all, 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: what's up. 6 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: It's Laurena Rosa and this is the latest with Laurena Rosa. 7 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: news and all of. 9 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: The conversations that shake the room. 10 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Let me get my mic together together because the day 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: we got some things to talk about, So hopping right 12 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: on into it. 13 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Gucci Min Keisha ki Or came. 14 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: On the Breakfast Club and Wow was the conversation. Like 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: I knew the conversation was going to be a good conversation. 16 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of Gucci's of course, really really 17 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: big fan of kishk Wor. I remember being in college 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: and like you know, we was doing the color lipsticks 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: and the hair and you know, all the things because 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: Or had or she still does have keshki Or cosmetics, 21 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: but I don't know if she had us in a 22 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: choke hold at that time. The girls that had the 23 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: hair with the middle like little mohawk. I never did 24 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: a little little little you know, mohawk dingy thingy, but 25 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: being at Dell State. 26 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: During that time. 27 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: Being at college during that time, you really got to 28 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: see the impact of both of these people. So sitting 29 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: here with them, you know, whenever I'm at breakfast club 30 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: is always like, damn, I'm really you know what I mean, Like, 31 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm really sitting here with the But then they're they're 32 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: Gucci is in a different space in his life. He's 33 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: talking about, you know, everything he's dealing with, you know, 34 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: mental health wise. And the book and the album Episodes 35 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: is out, So I knew it was going to be 36 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: an open and vulnerable conversation, but I had no idea 37 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: I want to take a second to just talk about 38 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: some of the things that we talked about in some 39 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: of the ways I saw people responding to the interview 40 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: in total, So, Kisha k Or and Gucci, you know, 41 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: they are married, they now have two kids together, and 42 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: from the outside looking in, before we learned that Gucci, 43 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 2: you know, was dealing with mental struggles of his own, 44 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: their relationship has been one that you know, trends a 45 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: lot of times as a fairy tale. From the story 46 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: about Gucci giving Keisha ko Or the money before he 47 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: went to jail and her flipping the money and him 48 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: coming home to all this money, and you know, just 49 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: you always see the videos and the photos of the 50 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: lobsters and them, you know, they dressed it like they fly, 51 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: they walking into concerts, doing this, doing that. But to 52 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: hear the other side of things where it's like in 53 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: real life she is. And I think, you know, when 54 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: you're married, you are your life's like you are your 55 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: partner's lifeline. But I think it's in such a different 56 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: way when that person is dealing with anything, you know, 57 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: in any type of sickness, whether it's a mental health 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: situation or it's you know, a physical disability, it's just different. 59 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: And I think them being vulnerable and opening up and 60 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: talking about this not even think I know. Keisha ki 61 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: Or literally just posted to her Instagram that someone reached 62 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: out to her. She said that she had been getting 63 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: flooded by dms every since the Breakfast Club interview. But 64 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: she says, specifically, right before I walked into this podcast, 65 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: I saw her post that there was a mom who says, 66 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: my son was watching that interview. He finally would be 67 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: honest with himself about the fact that he does have 68 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: mental health struggles and that he does need some help. 69 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, because now they're able to actually go and 70 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: do something about it. And Gucci talked a bit in 71 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: this interview just about you know what that looked like 72 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: shame wise for him and why you know it kind 73 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: of took him so long to come around and just say, Yo, 74 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: here's what's going on with me. 75 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. I wonder what the psychology is 76 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: behind that, Like why when you going through an episode. 77 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: You give away money and I don't know, you don't 78 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: care your mind because the money don't is not You're 79 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: kind of like inn a warp world. It's almost like 80 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: it's a psychosist. You know what I'm saying. It's not 81 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: you're dealing with stuff like hearing voices. Yeah they have 82 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: money now and you're hearing voices too, Like it's telling 83 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: you that. You know, you might think that Charloa Mane 84 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: trying to I might think that you're trying to fight me. 85 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: You ain't even did nothing. We'll be like, bro, I 86 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: ain't doing nothing to tell you what's wrong. Like I'll 87 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: be trying to fight you, Charlae man like you did this. 88 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: You know what you did? You stole something from me. 89 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: He'd be like, but in my mind, I'm like it's 90 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: the truth. So that's what I used to deal with. 91 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: How did therapy in the self work change your relationship 92 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: with anger? And like, do you still wrestle with that 93 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: same in a voice that you talk about throughout the book? 94 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. It's like I seen a therapist. 95 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta sort taking medicine to prescribe for 96 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: me what she thought any worked and I haven't had 97 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: any other problems now. 98 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: One of the things that I think, you know, I 99 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 2: knew that there was going to be something fallout because 100 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: Keisha k Or has said, you know, my man don't 101 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: got to do nothing but relax. 102 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Basically, here's what she actually said. 103 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 4: I treat Gucci so good, Like I know, I said this. 104 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 4: When he first came out of present, I would bathe him. 105 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: And what I don't bathe him no more. 106 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: But I used to bathe him. Now I still cook 107 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 4: for him. The only thing Gucci gotta do is shower. 108 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: He don't gotta do nothing else. I do everything for 109 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 4: that man, but not because I have to do. I 110 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 4: want to. 111 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 5: I enjoyed taking care of him. 112 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 4: I enjoy him just being happy, going to the studio 113 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: and doing music. I don't want him to worry about 114 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: the bills, worry about what you gotta eat, worry about 115 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: nothing that man, all you gotta do is babe child 116 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 4: and go do his shows and go to the studio. 117 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: That is it. 118 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: The wife takes care of everything else, and I love 119 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 4: doing it, and if I don't do it, I would 120 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: be miserable. 121 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: When she sat down with Carlos King, for you know, 122 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: the conversation she had with Carlos King, the world was 123 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: in a uproar period, like people could not understand what 124 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: she meant. 125 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: By I make peace, I make home for my man. 126 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: Even though again at that time, I didn't fully understand 127 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: the extent of, you know, Gucci's struggles. 128 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: People were in an uproar. 129 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: So when she was talking about a lot of the 130 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 2: different things in our interview at the Breakfast Club that 131 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: she had to do just to make sure he got 132 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: through and gets through actively you know what his struggles 133 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: are mentally, I knew that people were. 134 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 1: Going to have something to say. 135 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: Now, let's say, to listen to keishak k or talk 136 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: about how she was able to protect Gucci from the 137 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: world while he was going through what was happening mentally, 138 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: because a lot of y'all because of this or I 139 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: don't know, Like the reaction to her talking about how 140 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: she protected him in this situation has been a little 141 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: odd to me. Like I saw people saying like always 142 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: given caregate caretaker more than his given wife, and I'm like, Wow, 143 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: people really don't understand what it's like to deal with 144 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: someone who is dealing with something health wise. You instantly 145 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: become a caretaker. You don't have a choice because even 146 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: if you bring people in, they don't love, nurture or 147 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: have the patience. Yo, the patience is the biggest thing. 148 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: They don't have the patience like you have for the 149 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 2: person you love. And it's twenty four to seven, especially 150 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 2: when somebody's dealing with something with mental health. Let'say listen 151 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: to Keisha Ki or talk about, you know, deleting Gucci's 152 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 2: apps off his phone so that the world didn't know 153 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: what he was going through after his last molt down 154 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: with all those tweets for you, what was it like 155 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: just trying to protect the business that you guys have built. 156 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 5: Wow, I have a sister. I take his apps off 157 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 5: his phone. First thing I do. I delete Instagram, I 158 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 5: delete everything. Even if I got to change his password. 159 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 5: I'm changing it because I don't need the public to 160 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 5: know he's having an episode. You realize, you'd never know 161 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 5: about any other episodes since September thirteen because I control that, 162 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 5: because you're not going on Instagram, you're not going on Twitter. 163 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 5: It's deleted, you know, And I just control everything at home. 164 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 5: And now before the episodes come, I catch it. So 165 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 5: that's why he hasn't had another one. And how you 166 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 5: catch that is he doesn't speak to you, he wants 167 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 5: to be left alone. He don't eat, he does not sleep, 168 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 5: text messages, there's a period after each word, and I'm like, 169 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: you're going through an episode. 170 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: You're sick. No, I'm not. Ain't not wrong with me. 171 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 5: Why do you think that you're not speaking to me? Well, 172 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 5: there's nothing to talk about. I said, well, that's not 173 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 5: how you speak to your wife. And I'm like, you're sick, 174 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 5: and we snap out of it right then. 175 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So this clip right here is what caused a 176 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: lot of the conversation. I've seen several think pieces since 177 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: this clip made it to the public, since this interview 178 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: made it to the public, And you know, I think 179 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: it's what I learned when dealing with people who have 180 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: mental challenges and you know, physical health challenges, is that 181 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: you're literally in a world of your own when you 182 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: are caring for those people, they're in the a world 183 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: of their own. Like I remember, you know, and my 184 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: mom's you know stuff is a lot different than Gucci's. 185 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: But because my mom had a head trauma, when we 186 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: called my mom's cancer was brain cancer first, and then 187 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 2: we tracked it back to lung. She had to get 188 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: she had to do a biopsy on her brain and 189 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: I remember, oh, for like the first four months after that, 190 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: just in trying to care for her, there would be 191 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: so many times and so many different things that she. 192 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: Would say and do and. 193 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: It was like it was it was so when Keisha 194 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: ky Or said, you're not she says, I'm not dealing 195 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: with Gucci, meaning like he's out of this is not 196 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: him right now. This is this is the you know, 197 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: the the health challenge that she's dealing with right now. 198 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: I really understood it because the way that my mom's. 199 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: Mental was set up for some time and she's I 200 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: don't she's good, but I wouldn't say she's one hundred 201 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: percent still. I think, you know, trauma to your brain 202 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: is trauma to your brain under so much duress, and 203 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: you know all the things, but there would be things 204 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: that she would say and I remember like having to 205 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: call FEM members and they would just be like, you know, 206 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: you just got to realize you're not dealing with her. 207 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: Even my friend, like I would call a friend who 208 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: had went through something similar with their parents, and she 209 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: would always tell me like, just remember this is you're 210 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: not dealing with. 211 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: Your mom right now. 212 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: And when your mom comes into her right mind, like 213 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: it's different. But even in reaching out to people, they 214 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: you just don't get it, like you're literally in your 215 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 2: own world because it's just you and this person. You're 216 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: the only person that kind of understands, like you know 217 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: what the triggers are for whatever the health issue that 218 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: they're going through. You're the only person that understands how 219 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: to kind of get them into a state where you 220 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: can even talk them into understanding that they're having, you know, 221 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: these episodes and these issues that they're dealing with. You're 222 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: the only person that just can understand what you're dealing with, 223 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, because no one else is 224 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 2: there every single day. So in listening to her speak, 225 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: those what she's talking about, people would never understand, like 226 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: the way that I'm seeing people react as if you know, 227 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: her method of going about taking care of her husband 228 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: is too much like it's too forceful, it's she's in 229 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: too much control. I saw people, you know, almost insinuating that, like, 230 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: you know, he you know, at this point, is under 231 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: a control that he has no power of, and just 232 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: various different things. And you know, for me, I've just 233 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: learned in these type of situations that when someone is 234 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: being treated health wise, you gotta give that person and 235 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: the person that is caring for them every single day 236 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: the room to do what they need to do to 237 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: get through every single day. What she is going about 238 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: doing and how she's going about doing it, we probably 239 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: will never understand it ever, because even in talking to them, 240 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: from the beginning of the interview to the end of 241 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: the interview, literally I remember saying to myself, this is 242 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: a lot deeper than people understand. 243 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: He is going through a lot more than people understand. 244 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: And thank God for Keisha kay Or because she probably 245 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: saved his life on multiple occasions. She talked about, you know, 246 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: one time where they had this condo on Miami, and 247 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: she said her biggest fear. She never thought that he 248 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: would hurt her, but her biggest fear was that he 249 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: would hurt himself. And one of her thoughts was he 250 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: may jump over the balcony of the condo in Miami 251 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: because of mentally what he was going through, and that 252 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: would keep her up at night. Literally, let's take a 253 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: listen to that. 254 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 5: It's scary, like like we had a condo where we 255 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 5: were on like the penthouse and I'm like, shit, is 256 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 5: he gonna jump? Is the voice gonna tell him to jump? 257 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: Like That's the scary part, not me being scared of 258 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 5: him hurting me. 259 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: So for people to say she's doing a bit too much, 260 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: he gives sedated as if he can't make his own decisions. 261 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: I think, you know, what we're seeing is her having 262 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 2: to do exactly what needs to be done because she's 263 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: been fighting this battle. 264 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: With him throughout the diagnosis and all the treatment. 265 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: And she's working with the doctors like a lot of 266 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: it is just like mind your business. And I think 267 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: it's really unfair too that because I know Keisha ki 268 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: Or said in the interview. 269 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: I asked her, like, you know, what do you do 270 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: when you feel like the walls are. 271 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: Caving in because it gets there, it gets really really dark, 272 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: man like you, because. 273 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: You can't talk to anybody. 274 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 2: People react how you know, people are reacting right now 275 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: online where everybody has opinions about what you should be doing, 276 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: how you should be feeling, what the person should be doing, 277 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: what they shouldn't be doing, how they should be treated. 278 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: You're dealing with so much alone. And she said this. 279 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: She says she doesn't get help. She says she doesn't 280 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: talk to anybody. She's happy when he's happy. And I 281 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: completely understand that, but boy, it has to be heavy 282 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: because now on top of them, she did such a 283 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: good job for so many years keeping this in their 284 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: household and getting it to a point where he is 285 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 2: alive and he is he's well, and he's able to 286 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: you know, and he's in the interview speaking for himself. 287 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: Y'all are acting like this man's not sitting right here. 288 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: But she's done such. 289 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: A good job of protecting home and making it a 290 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: space where he can do what he needs to do 291 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: to continue to be well. But now they're letting it 292 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: out to the world. They're on this book tour, the 293 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: album is out. He's talking about things and That's another 294 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: thing as well too that I thought about. I'm like, 295 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: you know, there's so many different things that still trigger me. 296 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: And I wasn't a person that was dealing with someone 297 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: with mental health issues as you know, deep as I 298 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: learned that Gucci's was. But there are certain videos that 299 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: I you know, I was trying to log and like 300 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: keep up with, you know, everything that we dealing with, 301 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: and there's certain photos I'll see in my phone from 302 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: that time period, and it just takes me in a 303 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: whole different space. I can't imagine what it's like for 304 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: Keisha ky Or after this interview. She's getting a bunch 305 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: of positive feedback too as well. She said that, but 306 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: I know people are calling who didn't really understand how 307 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: deep it was. I know people are reaching out and 308 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: you know, apologizing for not being there as much as 309 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: they probably feel like they should have been after watching 310 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: this interview, and all of that is triggering, people expressing 311 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: their unwanted opinions. Everything is so it's triggering for not 312 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: only her but for him. And she again, she's there, 313 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: She's dealing with this every single day. I don't know 314 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: about y'all, but after sitting in this interview, and speaking 315 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: with them. One of the biggest things I walked away 316 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: with feeling is like, if ain't nobody else gonna do 317 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: it for you in your life when you get to 318 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: a point where you have no one else to turn 319 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: to and you don't even understand what's going on with yourself. 320 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: Because he knew something was not right, he knew we 321 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: needed some help right, but he wasn't at the point 322 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: where he wanted to deal with it and really dive 323 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: into it and see what exactly it was and learn 324 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: how to treat it. She came in, she said, and 325 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna help him. If you ain't got 326 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: nobody else, baby, the way that your wife, your husband 327 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: is supposed to love on you. I'm like, man, this 328 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: is what it's about. Like, this is what union is about, 329 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: This is what love and family is about. 330 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: And I'm yo. 331 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: I just kept saying to myself, thank God for Keisha 332 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: k or like, thank God for her. And that was 333 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: my first time meeting Gucci. I don't know him personally, 334 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: of course, huge fan who is not a fan of 335 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: Gucci man, but just hearing him detail and hearing her detail. 336 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: She said one time he stood outside for twenty four 337 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: hours and would not come back into the house. Do 338 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: you know how just far gone his mind had to be. 339 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: And I'm just thinking, I'm like, this is Gucci man, 340 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: Like we look at him as a celebrity, all of 341 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: the you know, the cars, the jewelry, the fame, the 342 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and he is in such 343 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: a deep fight for his mental stability that she wakes 344 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: up one day and he's standing outside for twenty four hours. 345 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 5: There was one time he stood outside for twenty four 346 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 5: hours at the door, just standing. I said, get inside. No, 347 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 5: I said, did somebody give you a cookie or lacet? 348 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 5: What is wrong with you? Because I'm not even catching on. 349 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 5: I just want to stand up out here, he said, 350 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 5: another twenty four hours. So I said, okay, there's an 351 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 5: episode coming. I wasn't that good of a pro yet. 352 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 5: So the episode came like a week or two after that. 353 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: We had no idea. Think I'm like, yo, thank God 354 00:17:53,840 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 2: for her. She probably saved his life. So I don't 355 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: know what conversation you are having about this interview, but 356 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: I would say if your conversation is anything other than 357 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: I want a person I love who may be going 358 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: through this to watch it. I'm trying to watch it 359 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: for myself, you know, to see if I have any 360 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 2: you know, similar triggers or if I'm hearing things that 361 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: sound familiar, so like I can figure out like if 362 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 2: I'm a person that like potentially needs to go talk 363 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: to somebody whatever, you know, or just watching it with Hey, 364 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: I'm sending some love and some admiration, cause it is hard. 365 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: It's hard being Gucci and going through this. Think about that, 366 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 2: like it's not just like a it's hard for anybody 367 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 2: dealing with anything health wise. But imagine being a person 368 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: and people will say, like, I mean, he has all 369 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: the resources and the money and he can get to 370 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: the doctors. 371 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you still gotta deal with it. 372 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: Once you go see the doctor and you get treated 373 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: and they tell you the mad you still gotta take 374 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: the meds. 375 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: You still got to wake up every day sometimes. 376 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: Feeling like what is life and why is life? While 377 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: facing your kids and your wife. Your wife is there, 378 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: and on top of that, the world is all up 379 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: in your business because of who y'all are. There are 380 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: so many layers to this. You cannot take anything from 381 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: this interview, but thank God for Keisha ky Or and 382 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: the patience and the love that she has for this man. 383 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: And thank God that he got to. 384 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: The point because also too, even if you remove Keisha 385 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: k Or from the situation, Gucci needed to get to 386 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: a point where we're sitting and having this conversation with 387 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: him that we were able to have and to be 388 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: honest with y'all, I felt like there was one I 389 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: asked him a question in an interview just about you know, 390 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: East Atlanta triggering him and some of the triggers from 391 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: his childhood. 392 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to that. 393 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: It does trigger me going to Eastern Mountay. Yeah, Like 394 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: stuff with my mom triggers me. We had a lot 395 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: of screen relationship stuff for my youth trigger me, you know, 396 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 3: old friendships. You know that once I there's a lot 397 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: of stuff can be triggered. I get, you know, some 398 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: songs even triggering me. 399 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: And I could tell, like, as I asked the question, 400 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: after hearing so much about like, you know, the triggers 401 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: and just how sensitive everything was in my mind, I'm like, 402 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: I hope that question doesn't trigger him, because it does 403 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: seem very temperamental and it's something that he's you know, 404 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 2: working through and it's new and him you know, going 405 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: on the press tour and everything. It's new And Kisha 406 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: even said in the interview and he said, you know, 407 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: this book kind of almost put him back in a 408 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 2: really bad space. He goes in and out of it 409 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: to this day. But he made me want to watch 410 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: what I what I was saying in that interview. But 411 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 2: it also made me think about like just moving forward, 412 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: like you know, on it was like a self account 413 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: of bit like I don't know, like I've been having 414 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: these moments lately where I'm just sitting and I'm thinking, 415 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: like is what I'm doing and how I'm doing it? 416 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: Like how is that helping or hurting people? In that 417 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 2: moment when I asked him that question, and you know, 418 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: there was no malice. I really, you know, after hearing 419 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: him say that in an interview, was wondering what other 420 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: things he may have discovered from his childhood that he's 421 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: had to reface. 422 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: In order to move forward. 423 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 2: But it didn't feel like he was ready to talk 424 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: about it, if I'm be honest with y'all. Didn't feel 425 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: like he was ready to talk about that fully. And 426 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: again it's a very sensitive thing. But it made me 427 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 2: think about, like, you know, just when you get on 428 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: these platforms and you're sitting in these interviews and you 429 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: know all the things like we have a job to 430 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: do and we're going to ask questions, but just understanding, 431 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: Like it's so crazy, how like now we're able. 432 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: To have the luxury to sit. 433 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: Back and think like them, Did I just disturb that 434 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: person's like well being for the sake of content? Like 435 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: I never want to be that person ever, ever, ever, ever. 436 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: And I've been seeing so many think pieces on this 437 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: interview and TikTok recap videos, and yo, I saw somebody 438 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: accuse Kisha ki We a voodoo and witchcraft because he 439 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 2: sat there and told y'all that his wife at one 440 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: point had to to kidnap him to make sure he 441 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 2: was okay and take him to the hospital to save 442 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: his life. And I'm like, do people not understand how 443 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: their words travel in what that could potentially cause? Like 444 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 2: just so many different things, And like, granted iin't perfect, 445 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: you know, I'm in real time like growing up and 446 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: learning and experiencing so many different things in front of 447 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: you guys, But man, I just want us to readjust 448 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: the conversation around this interview. And don't get me wrong, 449 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: I've seen so many great reactions as well that I 450 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: do want to highlight. I don't want to take time 451 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: just for the bs. I want to highlight some of 452 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: the great conversations that I've also seen. I posted the 453 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: interview to on my ex account, and I want I 454 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: want you guys to hear you know just how people responded, 455 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: just to that clip where Kisha ke Or talked about 456 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: deleting Gucci's apps. 457 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: Dang all the barbs in my mentions. 458 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj got mad too. I think Nicki Minaj got 459 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: mad at us as well. She has some things to 460 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: say about us following this Gucci interview. I'm trying to 461 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: get down my mentions to get to the reaction to 462 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: the Gucci interview, but I keep running into the barbs 463 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 2: being upset because of the way that we covered Nicki 464 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: Minaj's morning. I'll read the Nicki Minaj stuff, but let 465 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: me hear so Sunney Saturday shout out to Suney Saturday. 466 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: I wear a lot of her bag. She is a 467 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: black woman bag designer Fire Too, out of New York. 468 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: She says it's so beautiful to see Gucci mature and 469 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: share her story with safety of having his wife beside him. 470 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: They're helping so many people with this level of transparency, 471 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: Maimuna underscore. Joy on X said the transparency in this 472 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: interview highlights not only the love that they have for 473 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: each other, but also their love for the black community, 474 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: as they're literally saving lives by openly sharing his battle 475 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: and mental health. 476 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: Yo, I got. 477 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: I saw so many people in the comments having conversations 478 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: about like just like, hey, I have a family member 479 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: who needs to watch this. Hey, this happened to me 480 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: and I was able to go to the doctors be diagnosed, 481 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: and thank you Gucci for like opening up. I think 482 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: it's so different because, like again it's like Gucci has 483 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: been like the Boogeyman, Like he's like a mythical character 484 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: like he you know, it's it's big, it's music, it's celebrity, 485 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: it's you ain't don't don't mess with Gucci, you know 486 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: what I mean. Like it's always been that about him, 487 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 2: but now it's like it's it's vulnerable, it's honest. It's 488 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: him talking about shame, embarrassment him and him apologizing for things, 489 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: him explaining things that you know, even he says in 490 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: the moment he did not remember or couldn't control him 491 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: talking about how you know the medicines he's been prescribed 492 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: are helping him therapy, Uh, you know, facing you know, 493 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: his relationship, you know, or lack facing what wasn't perfect. 494 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: In the relationship that he had with his mother. 495 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: It's the maturity, I think, because there's so many people 496 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 2: that look up the Gucci and I think there's certain 497 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: artists of you know, just our time that have such 498 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: a big cultural impact, and Gucci Man is definitely one 499 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: of them. 500 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: And it goes from generation to generation and generation. 501 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: So to hear those people be like, look, I ain't 502 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: got it all together, and you know, there's points where 503 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 2: I'm weak and I'm out of control and you know, 504 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: and I'm this and I'm that. But I had to 505 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 2: get myself in check. I had to go do real 506 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: things to help myself. That's impactful. And I think that's 507 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 2: what a career, not that you know, this is something 508 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: that he's doing because he has to for his career. 509 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: He's really battling this in real life. 510 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: But you know, I started this by saying that I've 511 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: been thinking a lot about like dang and what I 512 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: and what I do every single day, Like how am 513 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: I helping people. Sitting in that interview and listening to 514 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: him be so honest about stuff and wanting to talk 515 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: about it and being excited that he's helping people through this, 516 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, Yo, this is this is what the full 517 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: circle looks like. Like you start one way and you 518 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 2: end another, but you use where you started to reach everybody, 519 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: like the way church is supposed to be, like come 520 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: as you are. It's like a use everybody or use 521 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: everything to reach everybody. And that's like the beauty of 522 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: just black art too, Like hip hop and music intertwined 523 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: so many different people, so many different things, situations, all 524 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: of that. But when you think about artists that are impactful, 525 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: that are influential in hip hop and just the way 526 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: that they can sway audiences all over the world, when 527 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: those artists begin to do that and speak like realness 528 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: around tough situations like mental health, and it's just so 529 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: fired I see, and it's so fared because it's real 530 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: and it's authentic. And he didn't have to share this 531 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 2: with us. He did not have to share this with 532 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: us whatsoever. Because the way Keisha ki Or was holding 533 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: it down, I don't think we would have ever really 534 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 2: known the extent of you know what Gucci was dealing with, 535 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: because she has been just so good at creating that 536 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: space for him. He made the personal choice to open 537 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: up about his life about something that he battles with 538 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: day to day. Right now, I know this is like 539 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: probably like Lauren and the you're saying this on the internet. 540 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: Just let's just all be a little bit more thoughtful 541 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: as we're reacting to these conversations because the conspiracy theories 542 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: that y'all have, I'm just like, bro, what like, what 543 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: is happening? Please take me out of it. Please take 544 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: me out of the group chat, take me out of 545 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: this rabbit hole. But all in all, was a great conversation. 546 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: Make sure you guys go check out that full interview 547 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: with Gucci Man Keisha ky Or on the Breakfast Club. 548 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 2: It'll definitely change the way you think about, you know, 549 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: just dealing with people you love and very sensitive and 550 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: vuner situations. 551 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: I'm Laurna Rosa. This is the latest with Laura Rosa. 552 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I tell you, guys, 553 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: every episode my Lowriders, y'all could be anywhere with anybody 554 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: having a conversation about this. But y'all choose to be 555 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 2: right here with me. I appreciate y'all for that. I 556 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: will catch you in my next episode.