1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: to walk the planet. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 2: Okay, sure, here's a deal. 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: He's a true icon in every sense of the word. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 3: He's loved and feared more than any being. 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 4: To Grace's plummet, there's got a bad with a voice 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 4: that sounds like very white and be got say hey, 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 4: let you with baby. 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for a cameo. 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is you are about to embark 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: on a transcendent experience that can only be described as 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: psychological nudity. 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: This iss and this is stupotoy. 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 5: Here we go. 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: Jump Holy. 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 6: Mikey, I'm very excited for today's episode. We have all 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 6: I'm bam on the show and I love Paul. Like 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 6: back when we worked at ESPN, both of us and 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 6: our show, of course, Paul used to come on. He's 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 6: just he's so great. He's an authority on college football, 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 6: There's no question about it. He's the mouth of the 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 6: South that used to be Jimmy Harten. 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 3: Now it's paulifying up. 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 6: And this guy is so great because he will give 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 6: you all the information that you want and just take 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 6: shots at schools coaches, fan bases. 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: And administration all at the same time. It's amazing, right. 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 7: It's he does it in such a way where it's 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 7: part of his facts that he's giving, right, And it's 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 7: just his level of don't give is just so high 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 7: that I. 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: Have to respect it. 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: Agreed. 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 6: Before we get to what's going on with Michigan and 35 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 6: we get to Paul, Billy's not here today. 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: Billy's at the doctor. Billy goes to the doctor a lot, right, Like, 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: am I wrong here. 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Mike or listen? I love Billy, Billy is Billy is 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: one of my favorite people. Crazy. 40 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: Everyone loves Billy except for Dan. 41 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: I mean, but does Billy look like a guy who 42 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: goes to the doctor a lot? 43 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 8: He kind of does, right, Like when you look at him, 44 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 8: you're like, there's a guy that's got fourteen ametrists. 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 6: He actually looks like a doctor. Doctor Gil, Please, he'd 46 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 6: give you way too many medications. He'd be a hyper 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 6: coatriac on your behalf. You take, doctor Gil. I got 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 6: a little pain in my eyebo. Come in here, mri okay, 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 6: Cat's Camarado. 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: We're gonna make sure it's like, take a look. 51 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 6: Now, I'm not certain whether or not he's going to 52 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 6: the doctor or he's taking his kid to the doctor. 53 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 6: I believe he's taking his kid to the doctor. If 54 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 6: that's the case. But I didn't take my kids to 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 6: the doctor this much. He's there every other day. 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 8: Oh it's different now, like you have to do like 57 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 8: six week checkups, eight week checkups, ten weeks, like basically, 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 8: like it just goes forever. 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: You always have to take them for something. 60 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 3: Okay. 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 6: Uh listen, when I was growing up, when you were 62 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 6: growing up, it was, hey, just just rub some dirt 63 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 6: on it, you. 64 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: Know, exactly. 65 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, have you noticed all the Have you noticed all 66 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 6: the things we took growing up? They're all being recalled 67 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 6: down like no one has used more high drops than 68 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 6: me and the history of civilization. 69 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: Because my mother dropped once. Yes, Oh how do I 70 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: how do I keep going? My mother want drops? So 71 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: why am I gonna keep it going? I know what 72 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: it is. It's this. You gotta sit there and get better. Okay, 73 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: Now my kids sneezes, and my wife's like, we have 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: to take them to the doctor. 75 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 6: I have to make sure a different times. COVID change everything, man, 76 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 6: no doubt about it. Uh So, Mike, I have a 77 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 6: quick question before we get to Paul Fine down here. 78 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 6: Do you want Michigan to be in the College Football Playoff? 79 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 6: By the way, we recorded this with Paul before the 80 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 6: ruling on Michigan came down. Okay, so we're you're not 81 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 6: going to ask Paul about it because we didn't have 82 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 6: a decision. 83 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: We should have a decision by the time it probably airs. 84 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 6: But regardless, are you rooting for Michigan to make it 85 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 6: to the College Football Playoff? Because I do believe they'll 86 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 6: beat Ohio State, not because of any sort of cheating, 87 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 6: because they are more talented this year than Ohio State. 88 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: They're a better team than Ohio State. 89 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 6: And it's been a while since we've had some sort 90 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 6: of like I don't know, this feels like the Big 91 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 6: Three when the heat Lebron, Wade, and Bosh got together. 92 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 6: They've become a hated school, a hated university, and a 93 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 6: hated program, and their fan base has. 94 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: Become hated as well. But I want them in. I 95 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: do because I love the chaos of it. 96 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 6: I love the idea of Jim Harbaugh Michigan winning the 97 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 6: national championship, perhaps doing it without Jim Harbaugh, Like I 98 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 6: love it all. 99 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 8: Yes, I am rooting for Michigan to get in, but 100 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 8: this is the last time. This is the last time 101 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 8: I'll root for them to get in without without one 102 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 8: playoff win, because because I last year they were supposed 103 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 8: to have the team and they got embarrassed. If they 104 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 8: if they get in this year and they get embarrassed again, 105 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 8: I never want to hear Michigan can win it all 106 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 8: like I never want to hear it again. 107 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that's fair. I do think they're gonna 108 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 3: get in. 109 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 6: I do think they have a really good chance of 110 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 6: winning the national championship. I know everyone says they haven't 111 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 6: played anyone yet. They'll play They'll play Ohio State coming up. 112 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 6: I was gonna say they'll play Penn State, but please 113 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 6: name the last game. 114 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: Won, right? 115 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: Is it a big game? 116 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: A big game? 117 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: James? Not so. 118 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 6: But I do think Michigan will eventually, they'll show how 119 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 6: good they are when they play Ohio State, because I 120 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 6: believe they'll not only beat Ohio State, they'll beat them 121 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 6: by like twenty one points. 122 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: And now I think they're on a mission. 123 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 6: Oh you think we're only good because we're cheating Because 124 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 6: Condors Stallions is on the sidelines in all these games. No, 125 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 6: we're good because we're talented and we're good, and I 126 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 6: think it's gonna win spot than the kids to go 127 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 6: show the rest of the country. Hey, it has nothing 128 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 6: to do with all the stuff over there. The reason 129 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 6: we're so good is because of us. And I think 130 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 6: they blow out Ohio State and then you will learn 131 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 6: that Michigan is a really good football team. Let's discuss 132 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 6: it all with our friend Paul Finebaund from ESPN. Billy, Yeah, 133 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 6: very exciting the authority of college football. 134 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 3: He is the authority on college football. He is Paul Finebaum. 135 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 6: Got to know him a little bit when we were 136 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 6: at ESPN, as not as well as I would have 137 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 6: liked to get to know him, but he is a 138 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 6: fascinating guy, and he is the authority on college football, 139 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 6: on all things college football. 140 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: Paul, do I have that right? 141 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 5: I think I will. I will, I will. I will 142 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 5: agree to that. 143 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 8: I like that. 144 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 6: Of course, you will check out his show three to 145 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 6: seven every day on the SEC Network. Paul, you have said, 146 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 6: and and I appreciate you doing this, but you have 147 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 6: said that you think what's going on with a boy, 148 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 6: the cheating scandal is a bad look for Michigan, So 149 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 6: explain why expand on that if you don't mind and 150 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 6: tell us what you think is going to happen here. 151 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: Well, it is a bad look. 152 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: It just comes off very sleazy and and untoured. Now 153 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 4: I realized when I'm talking about college sports, a lot 154 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: of there'll be a lot of raised eyebrows around the 155 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: world because it's not exactly the cleanest species. But it's 156 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: pretty apparent that this school, somehow someway sent this guy 157 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 4: out to do all this, and it is against the rules. 158 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: Now sign A lot of people get confused. They say, 159 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 4: everybody steals signed. We know that, but that's not against 160 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: the rules. Sending somebody out in the dance is against 161 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: the rules. 162 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 5: And I'm not looking. 163 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: For Jim Harbaugh to fall down and admit it. But 164 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I've yet to hear what I would call 165 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: a a bang on the table denial. I mean, he 166 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 4: just gives these paper statements out which make me leave 167 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: that they're true. 168 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 6: How quickly do you think this will move in terms 169 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 6: of the NCAA coming up with some sort of ruling here. 170 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're talking right now midday Wednesday. I think we'll 171 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 4: have some decision by tomorrow. Michigan's response is due late today. 172 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: Now we know they're going to deny it. What Michigan 173 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: is doing is they're not always saying we deny it. 174 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 4: They're they're like throwing dirt. It's like a grade school 175 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: food fight. I mean, they're just throwing dirt at everybody 176 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 4: else and hey, they did it. 177 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 5: They did it, but we didn't do it. 178 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,359 Speaker 4: Of course, I think the big issue for the commissioner 179 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: of the Big Ten is he's having to step in. 180 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: He can suspend, he can suspend Harball. You know, a 181 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 4: lot of you are wondering, what about the nc DOUBLEA. 182 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 4: We'll keep wondering because the NCAA. Maybe we'll get to 183 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 4: this in twenty thirty. They do not care to act quickly, 184 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: and even if they do, they're going to get shut 185 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 4: down from a legal standpoint. 186 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 5: So it's really up to the commissioner. 187 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: I've had you know, colleagues of mine and say, you know, 188 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 4: Michigan should be ruled ineligible for the CFP. 189 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. 190 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 5: I won't go that far, but I definitely think Harbaugh 191 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 5: should be sad. 192 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 4: I mean, if any of us got in trouble, uh, 193 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: you see the old suspended and definitely pending an investigation, 194 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: but we also continue to get paid. 195 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 5: I know, I know this, this crew knows a little 196 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 5: bit about that back in your former job. 197 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 4: So I think that's what they should do. And then 198 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 4: there's a chance to gain some more information. And by 199 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 4: the way, Michigan started this season without Harbaugh for three games. 200 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 4: Let them finish the season without him. 201 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 8: Do you think that should be the punishment. Do you 202 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 8: think the punishment should be suspend, suspend Harball for a 203 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 8: few games. 204 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: I think until until there's more more information and these 205 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I think the Big Ten knows what happened. 206 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 4: They already sent some notification that there's going to be 207 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: some discipline. I think, uh, I'd like to have them 208 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 4: look into it a little bit deeper and make and 209 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 4: make one hundred percent sure to the severity of it, 210 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 4: because then if it is massive, then there's a whole 211 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 4: other conversation to have. But I think for now, Jim 212 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 4: Harbaugh should not be in charge of this program. And 213 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: also it's minor, but the idea that Harbaugh isn't fair. 214 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: When they win the Ohio s Day Game or the 215 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 4: Big Ten championship, at least it sends a message. It 216 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 4: shows that the Big Ten is doing something, and I 217 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: know a lot of folks are saying, hey, you. 218 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 5: Cover the SEC. Can you imagine the SEC doing this? 219 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 5: I can. 220 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I think if it's so egregious and the 221 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: majority or preponderance of the coaches get on a call 222 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 4: with the Big Ten commissioners say yeah, we know this 223 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 4: is going on. I'm not saying that's evidence, but there's 224 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: certainly a lot of strong signals here. 225 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 9: There's been at least one Heisman voter that says, because 226 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 9: of the scandal, they don't think that JJ McCarthy should 227 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 9: get any Heisman votes. 228 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: Do you think that that's a fair thing for him? 229 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: I don't think that's fair as a Heisman voter, just 230 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 4: getting away of you know who, I vote for the 231 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: Heisman alleged. It's supposed to be awarded to the best 232 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 4: college football player, the most outstanding. It sometimes it isn't. 233 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: It's the best quarterback on the biggest stage. But I 234 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: would not hold it against J. J. McCarthy. 235 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: Uh into. 236 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 5: It's just not to me. It's not right. 237 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to stand up and say these 238 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: are a bunch of kids. I mean, these are a 239 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: bunch of kids who are some of them are making 240 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: millions of dollars. So let's not get carried away here 241 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 4: like we're talking about our cub Scout troup. But I 242 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 4: still don't think that's a fair punishment. 243 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: Paul is Michigan good? Is Michigan good? 244 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 5: Yes? I do think there. 245 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's okay. 246 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: I haven't been asked a football question and so long. 247 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: I was a little caught off guard, right because conversation, Uh, 248 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: they are I'll sound like one of these talking heads 249 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: on ESPN now, but you know, they're very well balanced. 250 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: They've got a good quarterback, they've got two great running backs, 251 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 4: and they have. 252 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 5: A really good offense. 253 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 4: Having said all that, there's no way of really to 254 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: support what I just got through saying is right now. 255 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: Michigan has played a collection of high school teams, junior 256 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: high teams, and one or two really good military institute teams. Finally, Saturday, 257 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 4: they see a legitimate opponent. 258 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 5: They see Penn State. 259 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 4: Now, they don't have a legitimate coach in James Franklin, 260 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: but they're a legitimate football team. 261 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: Please expand on James Franklin. I love that he just 262 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 3: threw that in there. 263 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 5: Paul. 264 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 3: And that's what I love about you. You give the 265 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: information with a little hot take. James Franklin, will he 266 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: ever win a big game? 267 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: No? 268 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 4: And you know I'm not going to give you the qualifier. Well, 269 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: that can all change Saturday. That's not going to change Saturday. 270 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: That's why I said what I did. I mean, this 271 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: guy has one legitimate victory in ten years and somehow, 272 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 4: and I want him to if if he ever gets 273 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 4: fired and becomes a talent agent, I want him representing me. 274 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 4: He was able like two years ago to leak his 275 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 4: name for Southern cal and LSU and all the Michigan State, 276 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 4: all these other schools whatever, and he was able to 277 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 4: get like one hundred million dollar deal and he still 278 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: hasn't done anything yet. I mean, try, I was about 279 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: to say, try doing that on our industry. But there 280 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 4: are a couple of people that are getting. 281 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 5: Away with that in our industry. 282 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 3: You're looking at one of them. Well, I didn't want 283 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: to be the guy. 284 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 5: The party and started, you know, pointing fingers. I mean, 285 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 5: I respect you guys, not much. 286 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 6: Some well, we appreciate it, but what little, what little 287 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 6: respect you have for us, We appreciate that little respect. 288 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, first of all, you guys did something 289 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: for me that nobody's ever done. You had that you 290 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 4: have to help help remind me I'm getting old with 291 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 4: that little thing. 292 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 5: Was Yeah, I mean that that that gave me a 293 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 5: lot of cred. Uh, you know when I traveled the country. 294 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 3: You're welcome. I want to play this Michigan thing out 295 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: with you. 296 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 6: Let's just let's assume that Jim Harbob Well, is it 297 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 6: a fair sumpthing that Harball will. 298 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: Not be there next year? 299 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 5: I think it is a fair sumption. I mean, I 300 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 5: think he's damaged good. 301 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: Uh. 302 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: The president at Michigan for some reason likes him, but 303 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 4: the ad doesn't. And they, you know, he still supposedly 304 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 4: do this incredible contract extension, which you and I both 305 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 4: know they're not going to do until they figured this 306 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: thing out. He wants to go back to the NFL. 307 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: I mean remember last year he applied for the Minnesota 308 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: Vikings job. I mean it's not like you know, these 309 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 4: things are usually done by agents. 310 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 8: Uh. 311 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 4: And then it's you know, then Adam Schefter, you know, 312 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: breaks the story that you know, Jim Harbaugh has agreed 313 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 4: to the Minnesota Vikings show. Jim Harbaugh like went up 314 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: there for an interview. I mean he like sat in 315 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 4: the waiting room like, uh, mister Harvard, you can see 316 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 4: the owner now. I mean it was humiliate humiliating. It 317 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: was like the day before recruiting. That's how badly he 318 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: wanted Adam Michigan because he probably knew. And I think 319 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: the most important thing to point out three years ago 320 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: he was about to get fired. Uh. 321 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: He was. 322 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 5: He was literally a game or two away from getting 323 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 5: getting run uh. 324 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: And then they allowed him to come back after the 325 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: COVID year, and he's won two championships and been to 326 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: the playoffs and what else has happened since then? Connor 327 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: Stallion's entered the scene. I mean, it's is that a coincident? 328 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be some mystery writer here, but 329 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: is it really hard to figure out what's going on 330 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: up there? 331 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 9: Connor Stallion's for as much slack as he's getting seems 332 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 9: like a great employee. 333 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 334 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to make fun of what 335 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: anyone makes because I started out as a as a 336 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 4: sports writer making one hundred and forty five dollars a week, 337 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 4: So I'm not making fun of fifty five thousand dollars 338 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 4: a year. It took me forever to make that much 339 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: in my career. But essentially, Jim Harbaugh is allowing a 340 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: guy that's making that to me, and he's entrusting him. 341 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: But Harbaugh claims he doesn't know anything about it. There's 342 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 4: no college football coaches know everything about everything in their program. 343 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 6: Right they know where every kid is at it all times. Like, 344 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 6: there's no way this happened that there's his watch without 345 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 6: him knowing. 346 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: Goyhead. 347 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 9: Well, that's one of the funny things is that people say, like, oh, 348 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 9: they should hit them with the lack of institutional control. 349 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 9: In this situation, it seems like he's very much in 350 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 9: control of what's going on. He's just letting things get 351 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 9: run amok. But I won't give you a tutorial and 352 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 9: c WA compliance. But it's a little bit of a misnomer. 353 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 9: When they accuse you of lack of institutional control, that 354 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 9: means you're probably complicit. 355 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 5: But you're right, Uh, I I don't know. 356 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 4: I mean I I was on a show earlier in 357 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: the host of the show whose last name is a 358 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: color it said that this was the biggest story going 359 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: right now. And you know what, it may very well 360 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: be because it is so compelling. I mean, you've got 361 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 4: the the Darth Vader of college football, Jim Harbor. I mean, 362 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: nobody likes this guy. 363 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: Nobody. 364 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: Uh and and and he's now at the center of 365 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 4: really one of the biggest college football controversies I have seen. 366 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: I won't say in my lifetime because that would encompass 367 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: New Rockney, but in recent years. 368 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 6: I want to I want to get away from Michigan. 369 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 6: But one more, one more thing on this because I 370 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 6: want to talk to you about Florida State, University of Miami, 371 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 6: and some other teams here. 372 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: Uh. 373 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 6: If indeed Jim Harbaugh was to leave Michigan after this year, 374 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 6: who do you imagine Michigan would pursue Paul. 375 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: I think it would be, uh, someone who could understand 376 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: that system. I like the guy at Kansas. I know 377 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 4: this is kind of going a little bit outside the box. 378 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 4: Lance Liphold. He just had a big win over Oklahoma. 379 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 4: He he's an older guy. I think he could handle 380 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 4: the pressures of Michigan better than just going out into 381 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 4: the you know, the coaching search hot take list and 382 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: grabbing the guy that just won the biggest game. So, 383 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 4: I mean, he would be someone on my list. I 384 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 4: tell you the guy that will probably be kicking himself 385 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 4: that he didn't wait a year as Luke Fickele. He 386 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 4: would have been perfect for that job. I love the 387 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 4: idea of an Ohio State guy going becoming the Michigan coach. 388 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: When you urb you do it, I mean. 389 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: You could steal that if you want. Paul, you're not 390 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 3: saying he doesn't want that, he. 391 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: Doesn't want it. I will. 392 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 5: I've already got it. 393 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: I will. 394 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: Okay, good? 395 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 6: Uh, Florida State. Are people overlooking Florida State, Paul? 396 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 3: I feel like they are. 397 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: I do too. I like this team and now I 398 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: sound like you know, the talking heads on Tuesday Night. 399 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 4: But there their best win has been devalued because LSU 400 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 4: now has three losses. But of course, once to Alabama 401 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: one's the old myths, and once to Florida State. There's 402 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 4: some commonality there. They're both in the top ten right now. 403 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: But I really think they're a complete team. I think 404 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: they belong in the top four. That you know, they'll 405 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: get roally screwed down the stretch because they'll play an 406 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 4: a SEC game that probably against Louisville, which may have 407 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 4: one loss, may have two that won't be overly exciting, 408 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: but I still think they'll get it. They'll get into 409 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: playoffs with with with as long as they don't lose. 410 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: Is Mario Cristobal a good coach. 411 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 5: I think he is. 412 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: I really like him a lot. I got to know 413 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 4: him a little bit when he was on Nick Saban's staff. 414 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 4: I think it's good a coach. Whether he's a great 415 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: coach or not. He's a phenomenal recruiter and sometimes that 416 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 4: matters more. I think he could use a little bit 417 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: of help in game management. I don't want to, you know, 418 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 4: point out anything in particular here that you guys haven't 419 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 4: talked about, but I think it's wrong to say he's 420 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 4: been he's been a complete failure in two years. He 421 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: inexplicably finds ways to lose game. But I think given time, 422 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 4: and I'm not talking about a lot of time, but 423 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 4: I think in another year or two, he could have 424 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 4: a program that looks like Florida State. 425 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 6: Paul Finebaum is with us the Paul Finebaum Show three 426 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 6: to seven sec network every day, and wherever whatever's going 427 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 6: on college football on the ESPN landscape, he is there 428 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 6: to cover it for them. Based on their schedules, Paul, 429 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 6: would you be more surprised if Georgia didn't make the 430 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 6: SEC Championship game than Alabama? 431 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think George has a tougher schedule than Alabama. 432 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 4: Must be very surprised if Georgia doesn't make it. Okay, 433 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: for those who don't follow the SEC, they have almost 434 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 4: this week. They're a double digit favorite. They should win. 435 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 4: Their tough game will be next week. It's on the 436 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 4: road at Tennessee, and Tennessee is not a vantage team. 437 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 4: It's not as good as it was last year, but 438 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: it would be a very difficult environment. If George is 439 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 4: going to lose, it will be next week. I don't 440 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 4: think they will lose, so I think they'll get to 441 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 4: Atlanta undefeated. There's a lot of weird scenarios that, you know, 442 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: should they lose to Alabama, you know what will happen. 443 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: But I'll save that for a different time. 444 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 9: Okay, Paul's it crazy to Alabama somehow has positioned themselves 445 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 9: as this scrappy underdog story this year. 446 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 3: That's just kind of hanging in there and maybe they'll 447 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: just make it. 448 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 4: It is a true genius of Nick Saban and you 449 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 4: guys may remember the third week of the year, Alabama 450 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 4: went down to South Florida, played in the rain, and 451 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: Milroe did not play. The new narrative on that is 452 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: that Nick, this is callers to the Fine Bomb Show. 453 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 4: It's it's not a mensa club, but it's this is 454 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 4: what they said that Saban did that purposely. Oh, he 455 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: wanted to prove to his assistant coach Tommy Reese that 456 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 4: his guy Tyler Buckner from Notre Dame couldn't couldn't, couldn't play. 457 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 4: And by doing so, he now got everybody calm down. 458 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 4: And Milroe was the starter. That's not exactly the way 459 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: it went down. Milroe was very petulant, I'm told after 460 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 4: the Texas game. But it's a good narrative. And when 461 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: you when it comes to the legends of the game, 462 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 4: and Nick Saban is the biggest right now, it's the 463 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 4: new narrative. It's the new story. Saban has this all 464 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 4: figured out. And he also has, to your point, the 465 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 4: underdog thing worked out. I mean, nobody expects that, nobody 466 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 4: expected Alabama going to beat anybody this year, and they 467 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: have just simply rolled up a bunch of wins. Now, 468 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 4: do they have a what I would call a great win. No, 469 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 4: they've beaten Ole Miss at home, in LSU at home, 470 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: and Texas A and them, which is about a four 471 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 4: or five or whatever lost team on the road. So far, 472 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: they've done about what Alabama always does. 473 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: But they have a chance for a great win. And 474 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: that's if they get that win. They're in Yeah. 475 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, and they're capable of it. 476 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: Right. 477 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: And so you think Mississippi no chance of beating Georgia 478 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 3: this weekend, right. 479 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 5: I don't. Uh. 480 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin is a is a quirky coach. He's capable 481 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 4: of a perfect game as a play caller. 482 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 5: But I haven't seen that. I haven't seen it at all. 483 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 5: Miss yet. 484 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 3: Is Lincoln Riley an overrated coach? 485 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 5: Yes? Absolutely? Really, I I mean I I give it. 486 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 5: I give Lincoln credit. 487 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 3: Uh. 488 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: He he got beating a couple of playoff games at Oklahoma, 489 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 4: just overmatched, I mean destroyed. 490 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 3: Uh. 491 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 5: He got the he got the h the job out 492 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 5: in l A. And he got everybody thinking that that 493 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 5: he was the new Pete Carroll. 494 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 4: And you know, some of our friends and talk radio 495 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 4: out there just fell in love with him and promoted 496 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 4: him as the greatest coach in college football. And he 497 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: just he still hasn't proven that to me. Uh, the 498 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 4: Alex Grinch thing, he was the defensive coordinator that just 499 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 4: got fired. I mean Lincoln went all in on that 500 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 4: guy and never they could never stop anybody. 501 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 5: And this season has been a mess. 502 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 4: I mean he he has the best player in the 503 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 4: country and he's getting no results. It will be a 504 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 4: little bit like last year at Alabama with Bryce Young 505 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: when you when you look back and go, how did 506 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 4: that guy not win a national championship at Alabama? 507 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 5: But he didn't? 508 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: All right, two more will get. 509 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: You out of here, Paul. Is Oregon playing better than 510 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: anyone in the country right now? 511 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 5: I think they are. 512 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 4: And you know, I know, I know, I know a 513 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 4: lot of the college football guys are saying they really 514 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: don't have a lot of big wins. 515 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 5: Uh, they will. 516 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 4: I think Oregon, you know, probably should have been in 517 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 4: Washington and Seattle a couple weeks ago. Dan Lanning just 518 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: apparently was taking signals from Mario christaball and how to 519 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 4: throw a how to blow a game, and he kept 520 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 4: going for it when he didn't need to. 521 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 5: I think ultimately they'll win out. I think they'll be 522 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 5: in the playoffs. It will be a big. 523 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 4: It could be a big controversy if it's Oregon versus 524 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 4: Alabama and Texas. 525 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 5: But they are Bo Nixon. 526 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 4: By the way, both Nix has started every game of 527 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: his college career, and I think this is his sixth 528 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 4: year or fifth year. 529 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 5: I mean, the guy's been playing forever. 530 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: Paul, we're big on frauds here looking at the teams 531 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: this year. Who do you have is the biggest fraud. 532 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 4: I'm still not that sold on on Washington. I know 533 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 4: we all talk about Michael Pennix. You know he's a 534 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 4: great player, but uh, I want I need to see more. 535 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: If you'd asked me that seven weeks ago, I would 536 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 4: have said Colorado. But that's not That's not even a 537 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: Germaine question anymore. 538 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 3: So, Nick Saban, I just want to be clear on this. 539 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: This is according to your callers. 540 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 6: Okay, he put a quarterback in who's not his best quarterback, 541 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 6: risked another loss to South Florida, which would have been 542 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 6: very embarrassing, just so he could be right. 543 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: Right, that is correct, And by the way, it's not 544 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 4: only I have a friend who's a radiologist who was 545 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 4: listening to me on Monday, and I kind of scoffed 546 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: at a caller and she said, the guy's absolutely correct. 547 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: I'm saying, I hope if I'm got some kind of 548 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: growth going on in my brain that you're not the 549 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: radiologist reading the X rays. 550 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 9: The thing that you guys are not taking an account though, 551 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 9: is coach Saban's in complete control. He's not going to 552 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 9: get to the point of a loss. He'll get you 553 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 9: right up to the line and he'll make sure they 554 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 9: don't lose the game so that he can prove that point. 555 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 556 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 4: And by the way, Nick Saban is afraid of Tommy Reis, 557 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: who's I think thirty one years old and he's the 558 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. I mean, I could see maybe Saban having 559 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 4: a difficulty a year ago with Bill O'Brien. 560 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 5: Remember Bill O'Brien. He's a well regarded coach. 561 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 4: He's now with Patriots, but I can't imagine him hearing 562 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 4: what a thirty one year old offensive coordinator thinks of him. 563 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 3: I'm asking this just for Mike Golick. Okay, should Marcus 564 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: Freeman be on the hot seat? 565 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 5: I don't think so. 566 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 4: I think he he deserves some time. I mean, I'm 567 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 4: I'm not convinced he's an elite coach. I think he's 568 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 4: a very good coach. Like I like his I like 569 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: how he runs the program. I think he's a fantastic recruiter. 570 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 4: But at some point at Notre Dame, you have to 571 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 4: win the games that he continues to lose. 572 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 9: Paul, the last couple of weeks, we've been feeling bad 573 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 9: for AP voters. 574 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 5: Are you with us? 575 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 9: Because what they say really doesn't matter at this point. 576 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 4: No, they are The Eight People is a relic and 577 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 4: it's a good scene center to get you into the season. 578 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 4: I mean, when the Apeopole comes out on Sunday, I 579 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 4: just yawned because it really doesn't matter. But you know, 580 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 4: we now have allowed twelve people in a room them 581 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 4: at the Rich Carlton in Grapevine, Texas to tell us 582 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 4: who is good and who isn't. 583 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 5: And those guys work hard. 584 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 4: Can you imagine being a being on that college football 585 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: playoff committee? You fly out to Dallas in a private plane, 586 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 4: you get picked up at a limousine, you go to 587 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 4: a suite, you go down for a spa to the spa, 588 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 4: maybe maybe you do a run, then you got to 589 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 4: rub down, and then you have a seven course meal 590 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 4: while you're watching college football dare those guys talk about 591 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 4: how hard they work? 592 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: That's rough, gig, Paul. Can we do this more often? Please? 593 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: But we just have you one, just lob up a 594 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: couple of things. 595 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 10: And yes, nobody where our work here is about this. 596 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 10: I mean, I'm good, they'll be fine. Okay, I'll clear 597 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 10: it with that if I have to. Okay, it's just 598 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 10: Levator and they have a problem with Okay. 599 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 6: All right, Paul, thank you so much the Ball Fine 600 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 6: Bab Show three to seven Eastern on the SEC Network 601 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 6: and all over your college football coverage everywhere on ESPN. 602 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: Paul, we do appreciate it. We miss you, sir. 603 00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 5: Pleasure was mine. 604 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: How great is Paul Finebaum? 605 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it's wonderful. 606 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: But he did on the front end. 607 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 6: We told you like Paul will give you the information, 608 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 6: he'll give you his thoughts, he'll give you all the facts, 609 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 6: and then he'll just tear someone a new ass. 610 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 3: That's what he did. 611 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, he's He does the equivalent of an inaction movie 612 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 8: when the guy walks away and the thing explodes behind 613 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 8: him and he doesn't look back. 614 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: That's what that's what Paul Finebab does with his takes. 615 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: He just lights a match and walks away. Yeah, he's great. 616 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 3: Have you heard of a man named Now? This happened 617 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: while we were taping with Paul Finebaum. 618 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 6: The news is moving faster, Okay, fast and furious this 619 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 6: Michigan story. All right? Are you familiar with a guy 620 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 6: named David Shuster? Okay, he's an anchor for MSMBC. Okay, 621 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 6: have you ever watched MSNBC. No, David Schuster is upsets 622 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 6: this guy. He is have Paul Finebaum? Why do you 623 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 6: think I brought it up? 624 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: It's matter with you? 625 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: Oh that was your fair question. 626 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: I didn't send it up. 627 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: You could be upset at us. 628 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 3: So I'm guessing Schuster. 629 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 6: This guy, oh, is he aunctious? But this guy h 630 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 6: I guess he went to Michigan because he is threatening. 631 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 6: He has threatened. 632 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: This is amazing. 633 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: Wait till he gets a whole of our interview. 634 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 2: I can't wait. What happened? 635 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 3: All right? 636 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 6: So this guy, uh, he is threatening a boycott. He 637 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 6: wants Paul Finebaum to be fired by ESPN. He is 638 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 6: demanding that they be fired, that Paul be fired by ESPN. God, 639 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 6: I wish this happened before Paul came on. Oh my god, 640 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 6: so upset he would have tore this guy a new one. 641 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 6: So he has threatened via social media a boycotts against 642 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 6: ESPN their parent company, Disney. He will not take his 643 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 6: family to that theme park. He will take them to 644 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 6: different theme parks. Okay, he is deleting the ESPN. 645 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: App off his phone. 646 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 6: Okay, he is going to use He's boycotting the businesses 647 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 6: that advertise on college game Day, the home Depot and 648 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 6: door Day. He said he will go to a different 649 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 6: hardware store and he will find a different food delivery surface. 650 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: That's gonna fix it. 651 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: Paul, You're fired. 652 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 8: You thik home Depot will be able to bounce back. 653 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 8: I mean, I mean, here's the best park. I believe 654 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 8: that he believes that. I believe that he thinks. You 655 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 8: know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna stop going to 656 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 8: Home Depot and I'll drive twenty minutes out of my 657 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 8: way to go to a Low's or an Eighth Hardware. 658 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: Or some other one. 659 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 8: But every time me, every time I go to Home Depot, 660 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 8: I have to go three times. Because I go, I 661 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 8: buy the wrong thing, or I forget something and I 662 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 8: gotta go back the first time he has to go 663 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 8: back and then drive the extra twenty minutes out of 664 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 8: his way. His principles are going to go out the window, 665 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 8: and he's going to be right back there because it's 666 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 8: going to be more convenient get out of here. 667 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 6: I feel the same thing happens to me when I 668 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 6: go to home Depot or any harm wish store. 669 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 3: You're right, I get it, I understand it. But what 670 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: you're maintaining is he will do it once. 671 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: He will. 672 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: Boy got home Depot at once. 673 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 6: Go to Low's twenty minutes further than he needs to 674 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 6: go because he's upset at Paul Finebam and wants him 675 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 6: to be fired. 676 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: So we'll go to Low's once. 677 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 6: He'll get the stuff he needs, he'll realize he got 678 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 6: the wrong size of something. I'll have to drive back, 679 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 6: and they'll go back to the home Depot, which is 680 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 6: four minutes from his house. 681 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: My principals correlate with my laziness. 682 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 6: Okay, And the second the other food service delivery is 683 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 6: twenty five minutes later, blows his order. 684 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: I'll go right back. The door dashes. 685 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: Right back. 686 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, good luck taking your kids down the Florida and 687 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 6: tell him you're going to Tampa Busch gardens. 688 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: Its stupid at it