1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: He's here. The sleekest, sexiest lines American engineers to come 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: up with. I'll just to name itself. It speaks power 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: and wealth all Ron Ananian I as a mechanic, and 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: a lot of mechanics. As mechanics take their job very seriously. 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: It's our responsibility to keep you safe. There was a 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: car the Car Doctor. I get it. A lot of 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: people say, oh, mechanics just want to make money. You 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: know what if this was about making money, I want 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: to stop fixing cars thirty five years ago. Welcome to 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor. 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are opened, but I am 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: here to take your calls. At eight five five five 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: six and now running. Hey, it's time to start your 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: engines along and welcome monitating a car doctor here at 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: five five five zero nine nine zero zero once again 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: this hour we're brought to you by the nice folks 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: at Generac Generators ucause that's what we're operating on. Um 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: no kidding. If all of a sudden during this hour 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: you here, that means that the generator died, which we're 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: hoping it doesn't because since the storm, the Northeast blizzard 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: that affected so much of the Tri state region here 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: um recently that we don't have electricity because UM, I 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: guess we pay Orange and Rockland too much money that uh, 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, they don't know what to do with 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: it all. They haven't been taken it out the fixing 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: repair crews to sending them out. That whatever we're on generator, 30 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: UM take it for what it's worth. So we hope 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: we're still here for this whole hour. We made it 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: through the last hour pretty good. Um, and uh you know, 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: I can, uh, I can hopefully that we'll be here 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: for this whole hour. So um five zero nine nine 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: zero zero is a bunch of things I want to 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: talk about. But you know what, there's phone calls up. 37 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: Let's take the phone calls while we can get them 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: while they can. As the saying goes, let's over and 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: talk to Rick and Great Bend, Kansas was six Toyota 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: Tundra and uh some questions about a fuel system. Rick, 41 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car. Doctor. How can I help? Hello, Ron, 42 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad to be on your show today. Thank you, sir. 43 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: Glad to have you said I. Well, I've been listening 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: to you probably believe it or honor over twenty years now. 45 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean it was a late nineties since I've been 46 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: listening to you on the radio and now podcasting and 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: that hotel both lists. I really value your answers. Thank you, sir. 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. So today I'd like to ask you a 49 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: questions about electronics royal body by wire systems. You know, now, 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: if you would have a bad sensory input for you know, 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: computer problems or you know, whatever it may be, what 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: association can you see with unattended acceleration on that Ron? Well, 53 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think we've got to establish 54 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: some ground rules here. What kind of look are we're 55 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: talking about? Well, I am an O six toil to tunder, 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: but I'm I'm just thinking in general across the board. 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: I I find it really hard to buy unintended acceleration, 58 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Rick, because there's there's so 59 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: many safeguards in the system. All right, Um, you know, 60 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: I look at the reports, I read the reports about 61 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: the fatalities with the toyotas and the floor mats, and 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: we'll talk about toyotas. I think it's on everybody's mind, 63 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: still leaven to this day, and it always you know, 64 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: we actually did an experiment at the shop where you know, 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: we would to foot the gas. We would one foot 66 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: on the gas, one foot on the brake and drive 67 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: the car forward like unintended acceleration. Panic stopped trying to 68 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: hold the car back. And yes, the the engine was 69 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: strong enough that it could overcome the breaking system. So 70 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: all we did was we we turned off the key 71 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: and the car stopped. And I always wondered why people 72 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: never did that. I don't I don't understand that. Or 73 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: we actually threw the car neutral and the car up, 74 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: the engine went up to its rev limit forty two rpm. 75 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: It just set there and free red wa wa wa 76 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: wah won the car stopped. So I noticed they never 77 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: talked about that, And I always wonder is the media 78 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: afraid to talk about a logical common sense approach? What 79 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: I think is a logical common sense approach on how 80 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: to deal with alleged unintended acceleration because it doesn't sell 81 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: advertising time, or it doesn't sell air time. I don't know. 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: I think there's too much redundancy in the systems. For example, 83 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, at the throttle body, okay, there are two sensors. 84 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: There's throttle position sensor, one, there's throttle position sensor to. 85 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: One reads zero to five volts, the other one reads 86 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: five vaults to zero. The same thing is at the 87 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: accelerator pedal al, right, which we used to call a 88 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: gas pedal. There's throttle, there's accelerator pedal position sensor one 89 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: accelerator pedal position sensor to. They read opposite of each other. 90 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: The computer tracks those If one of those four, if 91 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: one of those foo are is not where it's supposed 92 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: to be based on programming, it sets a fault code 93 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: and puts the car in limp in. And I think 94 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: that's a prefair statement across the board, regardless of manufacturer. 95 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: And you know, I I read the reports about unintended acceleration, 96 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: and I I can't imagine where it's coming from. It's 97 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: got to be a true glitch, you know. And if 98 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: you notice, we haven't knocked wood heard too much about 99 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: unintended acceleration in the last couple of months. It's been 100 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: a while, probably a year or so since I remember 101 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: seeing it in the news and I wonder why it 102 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: died off. You know, it kind of made me wonder 103 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: about it and think, you know, what, what what's so different? Um? 104 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: But those, to me, those would be the critical ones. Uh, 105 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, as far as that, I think most of 106 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: unintended acceleration happens because people aren't aware of And I 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: think this is a common fact that you know where 108 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: your feet are. I think people are confused easily. I 109 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: think you know, passenger compartments have changed a lot in that, 110 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, big feet, little pedals, and you know, we 111 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: don't have that. We're not a spread out inside the 112 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: cabin anymore as we once were. And what we think 113 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: is the brake pedal or is the gas pedal? Is 114 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, vice versa, and we're confused. Um, why do 115 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: you have an nintended acceleration issue with your Toyota? No? 116 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: I I just I just I just really wanted to 117 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: hear what you had to say about it. I really, 118 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: I said, I valued your answer. I've been listening to 119 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: you for twenty years and I'm not kidney and I'm 120 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm I've got mechanics in my family. I never have 121 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: been a propeon mulcanic, But I'm in the trade. I 122 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: I look at you as a person is knowledge. I 123 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: listen to you every week now on podcast. I just 124 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear what you had to say, 125 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: but I really wanted to get into your brain and 126 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: what you really think about that. And you're right about 127 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: the things you're saying. You want to understand. You know, 128 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: is it possible that in the millions of cars that 129 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: are on the road today, there's gonna be one with 130 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: a computer that hiccups and unintended accelerates the vehicle. Boy, 131 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: you would think, right like, what are the odds? It's 132 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: it's kind of like answering the question, what are the 133 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: odds that this is the only planet in the universe 134 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: where there's sustainable life, That there isn't any other place 135 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: in the in the galaxy, in the universe that could 136 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: sustain life, But you know, we haven't found it, So 137 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: what are the odds? You know, what are the odds 138 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: that there's a car out there with a bad computer 139 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: that that that do unintended acceleration? But I don't seem 140 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: to be hearing about it. And you notice you don't 141 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: hear about it in volume. You don't hear about it. 142 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: It's not like lately we've heard one or two or three, 143 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: but they all seem to go away. I'll tell you 144 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: what's really amazing to me, all right, I go back 145 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: to the Audi debacle twenty years ago. You know when 146 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: when Audi stood for another underpower demonic invention because of 147 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: their unintended acceleration. Right, remember that way back in the air, 148 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: young at you. And that's another reason I I don't 149 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: know just something about you that triggers me, honestly. And 150 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: I said, twenty years of listening to you, I value again, 151 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: I'll value your answers. I mean there were outies that 152 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: were driving through brick walls. And remember remember that, right, Yes, 153 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: I do. And it's like you just didn't just stated that. 154 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: The thing you're just saying it that. And I'm gonna 155 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: be honest with you today. I'm I'm not gonna say 156 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: it because this is your show. I'm not gonna say 157 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: what I really feel. But I do know one thing 158 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: I I want to tell you right now. My vote 159 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: for a ton of the cars is negative. I'm I'm 160 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: against him, but I think you know where I'm going. 161 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: I think you know how to feel. But I value 162 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: you and I wanted to hear what you had to 163 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: say it. And I'll tell you what, Rick, let me 164 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: correct you on two things. Number One, it's not my show, 165 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: it's your show. Well it's our show. Then it's our show, 166 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: all right. We can talk about anything we want to 167 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: talk about here within the confines of family radio. But 168 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm an agreement with you. Totonomous scars, autonomous cars. 169 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: Maybe it is scars. Maybe that's a Freudian slip, you know, 170 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: autonomous scars. There I do it again. Cars scare the 171 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: but Jesus out of me, all right, because and here's 172 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: the simple reason why. You know what scares me the 173 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: most is that thing is gonna break. And you know what, 174 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: I hate to knock my industry, but there aren't enough 175 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: qualified technicians in the industry to service the cars we've 176 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: got on the road today. Half half the guys can't 177 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: spell O, B, D, all right, And now we're gonna 178 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: put something like Star Trek in their garage and say here, 179 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: fix it. You know what. That's why I'm calling you. 180 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: The gyms are gonna go out of business if we 181 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: ever get autonomous cars. Because things I'm free. I listened 182 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: to you, and like I said, again, the things you 183 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: say makes so much sense to me. I mean, I 184 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: this sound crazy, but my life almost was re rolls 185 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: around listening to your podcast. As crazy as this sounds, well, 186 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: because I'm just I listened to you, and I don't 187 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: know if you you do something for me. It's the 188 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: way you talk to people, the way you treat people 189 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 1: on the radio, the way you say things that the 190 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: scent you make, even when you're your poor uncle guys here. 191 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: Last year, I thought to myself, you know what I 192 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: enjoyed listening to him. Every year you had your good 193 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: uncle he came on, you would have that program just 194 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: about your uncle. And I thought to myself, that is 195 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: a show that I recommend everybody to listen to. Your show. 196 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: You know, Uncle Steve was one of a kind. I 197 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: just got a comment on that. We were watching Saving 198 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: Private Ryan last night and at the end of Private 199 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: Ryan where they're on the bridge and Tom Hanks is 200 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: sitting there dying in character and the P fifty one 201 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: comes along and drops the bomb on the tank. Remember 202 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: that scene. And I turned to Susie last night and 203 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: I go, that's uncle Steve right. I mean you could 204 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: see it here comes to p. Fifty one and Uncle 205 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: Steve would have been there dropping the bomb on the 206 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: tanks island out of both you know, ear to ear 207 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: so um, you know, thanks, Rick. I appreciate the call 208 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: and I appreciate the conversation. You uh, you call back 209 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: anytime eight five five five six zero nine zero zero. 210 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: Run any of the car Doctor. We're back right after 211 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: this for the best in car advice. Give Ron a 212 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: call eight by five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 213 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron, Hey, Ron, in any of the 214 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: car Doctor, We're here, you know, before we go to 215 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: the next call. By the way, there's there, there's hope 216 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: in the automotive world, recent article the VW Beatles successor 217 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: not happening, says Research and development boss. Rumors about the 218 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: Volkswagon Beatles possible device have been swirling around the Internet 219 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: for a few years, and it's now pretty much a certainty. 220 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: Of This article talks about an interview with Auto Car 221 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: at the ongoing Geneva Motor Show. Motor Show, the company's 222 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: R and D chief Frank Wells, confirmed the bug will 223 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: drive off into the sunset after this generation with no 224 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: replacement in sight. Uh I get an amen and hallelujah. 225 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: Let's go over and talk to uh, you know, come on, 226 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: the Beatles kind of tired. Let's let's move on to 227 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: something else. Let's go talk to Mike and Oregon. How's 228 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: my jeep? Mick? Hey, Hey, Ron? Good. I just wanted 229 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: to give you an update. Uh. I tracked it down. 230 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: It was the fuel pump, the new feel pump in it, 231 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: and uh it was running good. This back up, back 232 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: it up a minute. This originally started with vehicle speed 233 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: sensor faults right correct, and then we got into it. 234 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: How do we get into And that's the part I was. 235 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you know you can wake up tomorrow 236 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: and have the problem. I mean you know it can 237 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: be problem ay on Monday and problem be on Tuesday. 238 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: But but how did this all transpire? Can you can 239 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: you go back now looking back over the timeline, thinking 240 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: about it? How did this? How do you think this 241 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: went down? I think it went down as I had 242 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: that vehicle or vehicle speed sensor fault and fixed it 243 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: and at the just uh coincidence, had a few fuel 244 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: pump failure. Yeah, what's kind of threw me off or 245 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: threw us off and then until we you know, step 246 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: step back and look at it from a whole new 247 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: like in the whole new problems is when we figured 248 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: it out. Did you did you did you learn something 249 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: about procedure from this? Yeah? Absolutely absolutely? You know I 250 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: I say it to people all the time, there's no 251 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: point getting aggravated because you're still gonna end up having 252 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: to fix the car. So just think about it and 253 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: fix the car and just you know, it's it's hard. Listen, 254 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: I was talking about in the last hour, my my 255 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: Ranger had a hard start, a long crank time, and 256 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm going, it can't be the fuel pump. There's no 257 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: way it can be the fuel pump. The fuel pump 258 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: was put in New fourteen years ago, which is only 259 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: fifty thou miles ago. I'm going, how can a motorcraft 260 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: pump go bed and fifty thous miles? You know what? 261 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: I put a fuel pressure gage on it after him 262 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: and horn for two or three weeks, and sure enough 263 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: it was a bad fuel pump. I mean, it happens. 264 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: You you you you get in your mind and you 265 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: get a emotional and you stop being logical, and it's 266 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, you've got to go through and step by step, 267 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's it's, it's, it's, it's it's 268 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: what I say, I mean it when I say it. 269 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: There there are boards up at the shop that people 270 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: look at them. They're little peg boards and they've got 271 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: specific tools on them that we don't use anymore. There's 272 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: a timing light and there might be a fuel pressure gage. 273 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: It's old and beat up, and you know, we look 274 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: up there we go did I do this? Did I 275 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: do this? Did I do this? Did I do this? Um? 276 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: We actually going back Chris and I and and and 277 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: Chris has been gone a while now, um, but Chris 278 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: and I developed a piece of paper. I think we've 279 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: got a checklist of the possible things that could be 280 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: wrong with your car. The last time I looked, I 281 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: think it was a hundred and eighteen different things to 282 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: test impossible scenarios. And we have an updated that list 283 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: in five years. It would be fun to go back 284 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: and look at that, and it's it's everything that could be, 285 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, the things you could test, because people will 286 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: come in and say, well, what could it be one 287 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: of these one and eighteen things? You know, where do 288 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: you want me to start and let me know. I'll 289 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: call you when i'm um. But I'm glad. I'm glad 290 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: it worked for you. Um yeah, you know, did you 291 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: did you put a fuel filter in it? By the way, 292 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. Always always do a fuel filter when 293 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: you uh, when you do a pump. We had a 294 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: what year was that two thousand three Chevy astro van 295 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: yesterday that was towed in and a little bit of 296 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: a tough diagnosis because on an astro van you can't 297 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: get to the fuel pressure port. It's it's buried under 298 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: the console and it's in a it's in a real 299 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: crumby spot. It's like GM never thought it was gonna 300 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: go bad, so they figured, you know, well, well just 301 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: won't make it accessible. And the way I diagnosed it 302 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: as a bad fuel pump was it would start in stall, 303 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: start in stall, and you could listen to the fuel pump. 304 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: It sort of sounded like, you know, it was like 305 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: gargling with gravel. It just didn't sound really good at all. 306 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: So I took a bottle of propane with my little 307 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: adapter that I made on the end that I ran 308 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: the truck on propane. Actually droving around the parking lot 309 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: on propane, so I knew mechanically and electronically everything else 310 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: was there except the fuel pump sounded terrible. So on 311 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: a hunch, rather than take apart the console that was 312 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: frozen in the screws were rusted, it wouldn't come apart, 313 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, let's let's take a look 314 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: at the pump. Pulled the pump down and tested it 315 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: on the bench, and the pump the armature was all 316 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: jammed up and like it had failed internally. Put a 317 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: pump in it in the truck's fixed, so, you know what. 318 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: It still comes back to basics. But I'm I'm really 319 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: glad for you. I'm glad that it worked out. Now 320 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: you can driving another half thousand miles. That's right, um, 321 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: But good for you, Good for you man. Yeah, thank 322 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: you again. Ron. And I just hear I hear so 323 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: many calls you know that that you helped up people 324 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: out and you never hear back. You make you wonder 325 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: did it work? Did not work? Uh? And I want 326 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: to know, you know, I really want to know. Listen, 327 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I talked about it all. Walt 328 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: Walt from Hawaii with his Mitsubishi that he was calling 329 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: about with the timing belt problem, the crank censor fault 330 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: forever that he fired. He sent me a picture. On 331 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: a hunch, I had him send me a picture because 332 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: I have to think of this in my mind. He's 333 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: in my head. I've got to get this right. He 334 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: sent me a picture and in the picture you could 335 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: see there's a a a a tone ring or a 336 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: you know where the where the crank sensor is triggered 337 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: as a trigger plate attached to the back of the 338 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: crank sprocket. The pins had sheared and the sprocket every 339 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: once in a while would line up so it would 340 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: run and then it would go out of sink and 341 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: set fault codes and not run. And um, you know, 342 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: I was able to get him on the right track 343 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: and say, yeah, this is bad, um, which you know, 344 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: We've got to do more of that. I have to 345 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: have people send me more pictures of what it is 346 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: they're working on, because once I see it, it just 347 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: helps me, um, you know, pick it up. But in 348 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: any event, Mick, I'm very glad it worked for you. Um. 349 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate your calling back and letting me know. And uh, 350 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just a really important part of 351 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: the puzzle, because that's the only way we all learned. 352 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: And I'm glad you. I'm glad you had the patients 353 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: to go through with it. He made me proud to 354 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: know you could be a mechanic. You. I'm work in 355 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: the shop anytime. So um, let's leave it at that. 356 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: Five zero nine zero zero moneating the Car Doctor. We'll 357 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: be back right after this. Hey, coming up next. Let's 358 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: go over and talk to Kelly and Virginia. Kelly, welcome 359 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor. How can I help? Yeah, I 360 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: have a nineteen seven eagle vision and when I get 361 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: up to speeds of a six and I'll leave off 362 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: on the gas, I actually jerking in in a vehicle 363 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: to say between thirty and well. I took it to 364 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: my mechanic and he called it a surge. And anyway, 365 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: he hooked up scan too and could find out codes 366 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: and took it out for a test drive and he 367 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: felt this surge or jerking also, and he said, well, 368 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: nothing I can do till a code comes up. So yeah, 369 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: and I actually I remember this, and I apologize for 370 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: not getting back to Kelly. I kind of lose track 371 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: of which email I'm working on in which phone go 372 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm working on because problem now you know, I actually 373 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: researched this a little bit because memory, you know, I 374 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: had memories of these cars there there. You know, it's 375 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: only one of that two years ago. Um, seems like yesterday. 376 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: But it came back to me that I saw some 377 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: things that were coming back in the day. One was 378 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: um and this is a long shot, but I remember 379 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: this is that. This is how I got the Oreo cookies. 380 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: All right, there's there's a story in volved here. So 381 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: we had an egal vision. Uh. The woman owned she 382 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: was the Nibisco you know, Nibisco Oreo cookies. She was 383 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: the Nibisco Oreo cookie test taster. She brought different cookies 384 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: to market. Um, God's honest, true story. And she had 385 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: an egal vision and it it was doing exactly what 386 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: you're describing. And she brought it in and I looked 387 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: at it. And if you look at the passenger side, 388 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: this is the V six, right, this is the three five. 389 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: If Mary serves me, right, look at the passengers side 390 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: wiring harness where it goes over the top of the 391 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: front valve cover. They have a nasty habit of the 392 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: of the there's a cam sensor right in the front 393 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: and the sharp edge of the valve cover kind of 394 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: chased through the wiring harness and it will cause an intermittent, 395 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: shortened and open circuit right there, and it will make 396 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: the car lose its mind. That won't set a fault code, 397 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: but it'll drive the car absolutely bananas. And and we 398 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: actually I actually found that. And as as a result, um, 399 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't think of her name now. Gosh, 400 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: I think she retired and she's been she's been out 401 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: of the area for probably a better part of ten years. 402 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: But um, every every time the Bisco came out with 403 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: a new cookie the next two years, it was probably 404 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: test tasted through my shop because she would bring us 405 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: these bags of cookies. What do you guys think of 406 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: this flavor combination? Flavor combination? We were we were the 407 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: test marker from the Bisco cookies for a couple of 408 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: years there. It was kind of bad for the waistline, 409 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: but it was it was It was kind of a 410 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: fun thing to have happened. Short of it being that. 411 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: Where I also want to look is, um, I remember 412 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: they had issues with the torque converter al right, because 413 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: it's funny that it happens right at sixty. It doesn't 414 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: happen below, correct it. You have to get it up 415 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: to sixty and then as you back down, it's kind 416 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: of a bucking and a jerking. Right, Um, this trans 417 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: is this the four speed trans? If you look at 418 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: the if you look at the face plate, is it? 419 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 1: Is it one two, D and D with a circle? Right? 420 00:21:53,440 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: So have you tried driving it in D? Well? Not? 421 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't mean I don't mean D with the circle. 422 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: I just mean d oh no, No, it doesn't happen, 423 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: just a D in it. Um, okay, so you have 424 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: one to all right? Okay? So so if if your 425 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: choice is one, two and D with a circle, so 426 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: you have a you have a three speed with overdrive. 427 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: All right. The next time it happens, just hold your 428 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: foot at sixty while the bucking is going on, and 429 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: tap the brake pedal enough to make the brake lights 430 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: go on. And if if the problem goes away, what 431 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: you're doing is you're disengaging the torque converter lock up 432 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: from from happening. And it's the problem is going to 433 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: be in the trans itself. It's it's a chatter issue 434 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: created by a convert by the torqu converter in the 435 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: trans all right, so we can look at that. That's 436 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: number two, number three. I know it's an early car. 437 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: It's a nineties seven. It's still has O B D two, 438 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: so it still has their all some diagnostics there. You know, 439 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: if we wait for codes to show up, we've got 440 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: to kind of think outside the box. If we wait 441 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: for codes to show up, we wouldn't fix half the 442 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: cars we have in the country right now, you know. 443 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: And I respect your mechanic for saying I get it. 444 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: He's saying, hey, there's no code, where do I go? 445 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: I gotta think a little outside the box, um ask him. 446 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: I know it'll be hard to get on a nineties seven, 447 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: depending upon what scan tool he's got. But there is 448 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: something called Mode six now in it wasn't as predominant 449 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: as it is on newer models, but it's a behind 450 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: the scenes look at the actual logic, so to speak, 451 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: of what the car is seeing in order to determine 452 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: is there a fault. And if he's got the right 453 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: scan tool, he can probably go look at Mode six 454 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: and see what tests, if any, are failing. All right, 455 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: kind of an early peak, you know, it's It's sort 456 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: of like you ever get a cold, all right? You know, 457 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: you ever get a cold on Wednesday? You didn't. You 458 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 1: didn't feel good on Monday and Tuesday, right, your your 459 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: body was sort of telling you, yeah, something's coming, all right. 460 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: And Wednesday woke up and you had the sore throat 461 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: and you were sneezing. Right, that was your mode six. 462 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday was your mode six. Test your your 463 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: your your computer sat there and said, hey, you know 464 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't feel good. I'm not gonna feel good. And Wednesday, 465 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: sure enough, you didn't feel good. All right, So we 466 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: can kind of go and look and wait to see 467 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: the problem before it becomes a problem. The the last 468 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: thing I would suggest he go look at is ask 469 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: him to take a look at fuel trim. All right, Um, 470 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: you ever you ever take auto shop in high school? 471 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: All right? You ever bake a cake? Okay, you ever 472 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: you ever bake a cake? And and you know that 473 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: that dot on the recipe was wasn't a one. It 474 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: was a dot. And you headed too many eggs or 475 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: too much milk, or the batter was wrong and it 476 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: was either lumpy or thinny or too you know, just 477 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: something about it. The mixture wasn't right. Well, cars are 478 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: kind of like baking a cake, alright. You're combining air 479 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: and fuel in the right proportion, and if you do 480 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: it right, it come you come out with a great cake. Well, 481 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: you can look at that air fuel mixture on a 482 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: scan tool. It's called few trim, all right, And if 483 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: we look at it an O b D two, so 484 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: it's a standardized. Look, we don't have to worry about 485 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 1: what Chrysler was thinking, or or Ford or GM. They 486 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: all have to look and follow by the same rules 487 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: under O b D two. If we look at O 488 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: b D two fuel trim, they should all be consistent 489 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: within the realms of what we're expecting, all right. So 490 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: for conversation's sake, there's long term fuel trim, which is history, 491 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: all right, and short term fuel trimmages right here here, 492 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: and now if we go and look at both of 493 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: them together, we shouldn't see excessive numbers. Now, for example, 494 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: if a fault code sets at short term fuel trim, 495 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 1: if this car is at twenty four, it'll drive all 496 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: day long at twenty four without setting a fault code. 497 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: But if we don't go look at the fuel trim 498 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: twenty four is excessive, all right, you know. But if 499 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: we have the attitude of hey, I'm not gonna I 500 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: have to wait until I get a fault code, then 501 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: I'm kind of waiting for something that's really steering me 502 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: in the face and one on one percent point away 503 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: from having it happened, if you get what I'm saying, 504 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: right all right, So you know, fuel trim can tell 505 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: us a lot. The other thing fuel trim can tell 506 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: us is sometimes if we've got a misfire going on, 507 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: If we've got a misfire going on, we'll see differences 508 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: in oxygen content based on oxygen sensor activity and fuel trim, 509 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: all right, and it might determine which bank of the 510 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: motor is acting up. So we want to go look 511 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: at fuel trim. Let him go try those things, and 512 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: if that doesn't work, you give me a call back. 513 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: Let me know what happens when you get to the 514 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: point of the transmission itself. And um, I think that's 515 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: where you're going to find the problem that this has got. 516 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: This has got a chattering to a converter, unless, of course, 517 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: it's the camp sensor wire, which if it is, let 518 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: me know, I'll try and find her and you can 519 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: become the new Bbisco cookie test taster. Alright, alright, brother, 520 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: all right, you're very welcome. You take good care of 521 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: rondating the card. Doctor eight five zero zero. We are 522 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: back right after this. That's right. If you call and 523 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: we're not live, you can leave a message and we'll 524 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: call you back to get you on the air with 525 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: Ronzo zero zero. Speaking of ron there he is. Hey, 526 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: let's get on over to tow Anastasia from low Lowell. 527 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: I think that's Lowe mass right, Yeah, how are you? 528 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: I was just putting the radio on when I heard 529 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: you talking about turning the ignition off on what to 530 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: do with acceleration, and I missed much of that conversation. 531 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: And the reason I'm calling is number one. I absolutely 532 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: would like to know what happened, how to take care 533 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: of that if it happens to me. Again, it did 534 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: happen to me. I had and this is a real thing. 535 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: It is an absolute real thing. I had unintended acceleration 536 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: on a Toyota, which is scary because it's a late model. 537 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: It most certainly did happen. Thank god, no one was hurt. 538 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: But it was a real thing. And you know, what 539 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: are the chances of it happening to me again, who knows, 540 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: but I would love this is something that we all 541 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: have to know. And I'd just like you to repeat, 542 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: what do we do if it happens? Because I swee 543 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: had a God, it really really does happen, because it 544 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: happened to me. It's just awful. We we actually did 545 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: it at the shop. We took a we we just 546 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: took a car and we created a unintended acceleration. We 547 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 1: just put our foot to the floor and we put 548 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: our foot on the brake, and the engine was able 549 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: to overcome the breaking system. So I said, well, that 550 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't work in that application, and I'm no engineer and 551 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be a you know, see of 552 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: the pants mechanic. So the next thing we did was, 553 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: while we were doing the unintended acceleration and we didn't 554 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: apply the break of hearts, We're probably doing about twenty 555 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: four miles an hour, turned the car off and at 556 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: that point I tried to stop the car just using 557 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: whatever vacuum reserve was left in the power brake system, 558 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: and at work, the car was able to stop. So, 559 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 1: in other words, if this happens off, well and then 560 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: the other thing we did was, you know, we tried 561 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: it both ways. And then the other thing we did 562 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: was we just took the engine and put it in neutral, 563 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 1: or it took the trains and put it in neutral 564 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: and the engine over REVD. Now this is a late 565 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: model car, but if I'm not mistaken, it was a Toyota. 566 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: It reached about four grand, which is the revelement, and 567 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: it just started to going to its revel ament and 568 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: it just sat there and REVV REVEREV. Then I pulled 569 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: over to the side and turned the car off. But uh, 570 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: you know you put it in neutral. Why not? I mean, listen, 571 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 1: if the worst thing that happened in unintended acceleration as 572 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: you put it in neutral and the engine blew up, 573 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: you're not dead. So which is better? Neutral? It just 574 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: shut it off, because both of them were I think 575 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: they both would work. I think it also depends on 576 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, what's happening, and that where are you. If 577 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: I think if you're on the road, I would think 578 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: neutral would be you can steer it at least the road. Yep. Yeah, 579 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: if you're you know, if you're on the highway and 580 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: there's an eighteen wheeler bearing down on you. Um, you know, 581 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: at least neutrally, you have the ability to sort of 582 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: get out of the way when you put it on neutral. 583 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: Should you should you put any panel, Well, you're I 584 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: would obviously your your foots off the off the gas 585 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: at that point. If you've got to have conscious of 586 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: mind right to do it and listen, I realize it's 587 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: a lot easier to say it's like being in combat, right, 588 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: It's a lot easier to practice, but to actually go 589 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: through it as a totally different experience on the road, 590 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: you put it in neutral and probably obviously put off 591 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: the off the gas, put on the brake and just 592 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: kind of steer off to the shoulder. So you you 593 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: you either when you're on the road put it in 594 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: neutral and and put your foot on the brake and 595 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: steer it. And if you're not in any way to 596 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: shut the innition off, you know, I would go out 597 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: to a if you and I'm and I'm not picking 598 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: on you, I'm just saying, if you have a fear 599 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: of this, practice it, go find a big empty parking 600 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: lot on a Sunday afternoon when there's nobody around, and 601 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: and create it. Put your foot on the put your 602 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: foot on the gas, put your foot on the brake, 603 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: create on intended acceleration and uh, you know, just go 604 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: slow at first, down put it in neutral. See what happens? Yeah, 605 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: so in neutral or else off the initiation and obviously 606 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: don't want to go further than neutral. If you go 607 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: one one click PASSTI you're gonna be in reverse in 608 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: a you could cause catastrophe. Again, I know it's split 609 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: picking stinking kind of thing. Would you put would you 610 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: put your what's your what's your foot on the brake 611 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: if it was a neutral You say though that this 612 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: is the thing. And the thing I want to make 613 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: clear is thank god nobody was hurt. But when if 614 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: it never happened to me before, And of course I 615 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: wasn't prepared, but it is scary as anything. And I 616 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: want to say, for a Toyota, which is ten to 617 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: do this, they did to get their act together. I 618 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: won't drive it to Yoda now. After that, I just said, 619 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: believe will not now. And I'm wondering, you know, and 620 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: did you have the floor matt recall done to the vehicle. 621 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know if it applied to the fifteen. 622 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't know because I don't know. I I got 623 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: a lawyer, but that you know, I straightened that all out. 624 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: But if at first nobody believed me, you know, you 625 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: know the cop who found me it and believe me that, 626 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't believe me. No, but but absolutely, 627 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, I had to get a lawyers. But nobody 628 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: was hurt. That's that's the good thing. But I just 629 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: want to want people to know it really happens and 630 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: what to know what to do when it happens. And 631 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: they've been a straighten their act aubum. This is a 632 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: late model. It shouldn't still be happening. I'd be curious 633 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: to see what the outcome is. Will you call me 634 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: back in a year and tell me what the transition was? 635 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: What the transition well, in other words, what actually happens, 636 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: what transpires here? Oh I don't know, I don't know. 637 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, if they 638 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: do anything for you, would you let us know? Oh yeah, 639 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: I know, that's over. That's just dropped. I didn't even 640 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: I didn't pursue it for any money. I probably could 641 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: have gotten money, but I did not. I was just 642 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: just wanted the whole thing to be over with. It 643 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: was so scary. Okay, all right in the stage, I 644 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: gotta go. I'm up against the clock. Um, but thank 645 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: you for the call and good luck heavy safe driving, okay, 646 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: and I appreciate the call. Zero. We're back right after this. Hey, 647 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: we're back. We weren't the any of the cards. Let's 648 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: go and talk to bow in Wisconsin. Hey, bo, what's 649 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: going on? Hey? What was going around? Just a kind 650 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: of torn in betweet replacing an engine? Are actually repairing it? 651 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: Umoct to my wife this morning and she gave me 652 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: the okay to buy a junkcard one. But yeah, I 653 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: had bought it off the customer and she ran it 654 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: way too long, way too hot. It's got a war head. 655 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: Uh compression you know, compression weak into the into the cylinder. Yeah, 656 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: all right. How many miles are on it? What was 657 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: around there on d Yeah? You know, the problem is 658 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: a two hundred miles. Unless you were the guy maintaining it, 659 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: you don't know the history. So it becomes a pig 660 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: in a player, you know. And that's the thing. That's 661 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: the thing. They gave me a two inch stack of 662 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: papers that her parents gave her. I have every record 663 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: you know on the damn thing. I went through them 664 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: this morning, but I'm almost leaning towards just getting getting 665 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: that ninety one. That's I think it's got like add 666 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: turns on up. Yeah, and you know, I guess I 667 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: guess the concern becomes. Listen, you could take it apart. 668 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: You could put unless you do have the head off. 669 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: If you have the head off, even if the cylinder 670 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: walls look good. But let's just say you took the 671 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: head off and and the cylinder walls look good, there's 672 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: no scoring. Um, you know, there's there's you know, the 673 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: walls look nice. But how do you how do you know? 674 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: You know oil consumption? How do you know what the 675 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: RUMs look like? What stuck? What isn't um? You know, 676 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: it becomes it's a gamble, it's a roll of the dice. 677 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: If the head is warped, for it to get that 678 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: hot and warp the head, what else did it hurt? 679 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: You know? And that's and that's what you don't know about. 680 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: Four years ago, we had a customer throw a timing 681 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: belt I don't know six highlander blew the belt overheated 682 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: the motor. She got lucky put a belting a water 683 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: pump in at the car drove out of there, but 684 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: it didn't run hot long because it stopped right away. 685 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: If this thing got hot enough to warp the head, 686 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: what's the damage. What else got hot? Yeah, I go 687 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: for the Junkyard motor. I think that's the safe move. 688 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: Thanks bo I appreciate it. I'm gonna name the car doctor, 689 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see 690 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: you