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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Bronto. Mendoza had his

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<v Speaker 1>primetime debut his second preseason game. He went eight for

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen eighty six yards and ugly, ugly, ugly, pick six

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<v Speaker 1>and attacking one half of work against the Houston Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll call it mixed reviews for the number one

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, uh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I know people are people in Las Vegas really excited

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<v Speaker 3>Kelvin because I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm rob G. That's his team.

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<v Speaker 3>I know Tom Brady, that was the guy they chose

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<v Speaker 3>and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>He won a national championship. He played great right last

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<v Speaker 3>year with Indiana. Huh, But I'm not convinced that he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be that guy and people talk about all

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<v Speaker 3>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because you're the first overall pick.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen plenty of guys wash out and not make

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<v Speaker 3>it and be a bust. I was always skeptical of

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL with the idea of the Raiders and Mendoza

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<v Speaker 3>not having any national games, Like, like, Kelvin, to me,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Since win, you don't want to see number one overall.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm serious that people are like, oh well, they don't

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<v Speaker 3>think he's gonna start, and he so they're not putting

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<v Speaker 3>any games on and they could flex in. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>the idea that he's the first overall pick and they're

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<v Speaker 3>not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know. Are they gonna start them or

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<v Speaker 2>are they gonna make them sit? And wait?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, rob G, you're the Raiders. Got what what

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<v Speaker 3>are they saying? Because it sounds like it's mixed.

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<v Speaker 2>On a big seat. He's gonna have a big seat.

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<v Speaker 1>They're making it seem like there's a competition. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins didn't even dress yesterday, so that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tells you all you need to know.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I call him Kirk, your cousin, not mine.

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<v Speaker 4>He is definitely gonna be starting number one. It just

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<v Speaker 4>when you look at this this Raiders team, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>rob G, you know that's your squad. They're so young,

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<v Speaker 4>rob there's one thing to just be bad, and we

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<v Speaker 4>know in the NFL sometimes bad isn't horrible, right, Sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a few plays didn't go your way, and

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<v Speaker 4>now you're seven and ten or you're you know, you're

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<v Speaker 4>eight and something or six and eleven, When he really

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<v Speaker 4>weren't that bad, and the next year you turn around,

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<v Speaker 4>at least you're you're a better squad. Then there's sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>you were just future and you got a lot to

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<v Speaker 4>figure out. And the Raiders are closer to the ladder.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they have a lot to figure out. They're

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<v Speaker 4>very young. They're trying to get some nice pieces. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're hoping the gent works out at the running back.

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<v Speaker 4>They still got bauered. They got some pieces offense. They

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<v Speaker 4>hope that Mendoza eventually will get there.

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<v Speaker 2>But rob this.

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<v Speaker 4>Team, they ain't there yet. Tom Brady ain't walking through

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<v Speaker 4>that door as the quarterback. Now he might walk through

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<v Speaker 4>as a minority owner. But he's got a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>work to do. And and if you were able to

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<v Speaker 4>watch some of the plays, he made some nice drows,

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<v Speaker 4>which is why obviously that's why he's the number one pick.

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<v Speaker 4>He looked comfortable at some times, got the ball out,

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<v Speaker 4>got the offense moving, and that bad that throw across

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<v Speaker 4>the middle of the interception was terrible. And you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>learn that number one thing you hear all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>The speed is much faster in the pros. That little

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<v Speaker 4>crossbody across the middle of the field pass you normally

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<v Speaker 4>can do in college, you ain't doing that in the pros.

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<v Speaker 4>And so he's gonna learn that for sure. But I

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<v Speaker 4>definitely expect a slow roll. If you're Raiders and you

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<v Speaker 4>say and you woy believe this is your guy, then

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<v Speaker 4>there's no rush.

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<v Speaker 2>You're hoping to have him for a greater.

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<v Speaker 4>Decade, decade and a half, and so they're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to run a little different.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a different school. If you can play and

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<v Speaker 2>make an impact, you should play. The only way you really.

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<v Speaker 3>Learn to play in the National Football League is going

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<v Speaker 3>out there all the people, the great players. No one's

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<v Speaker 3>putting them on a leash. No one's telling them we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to pump the brakes on you. You just go

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<v Speaker 3>out there and you learn. Peyton Manning was one of

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<v Speaker 3>a bad Indianapolis team. He threw a million interceptions, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Peyton Manning wasn't Peyton Manning year one. Go back and look,

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<v Speaker 3>he almost threw thirty interceptions he did his rookie year.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can't explain or tell me that the best way.

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<v Speaker 2>Is to sit.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, we got the Aaron Rodgers example, but there's a

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<v Speaker 3>reason Aaron Rodgers sat. You had a future Hall of

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<v Speaker 3>Famer there still able to play. That's the only reason

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Rodgers didn't play, not that he couldn't play. Everybody

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<v Speaker 3>said in practice, this guy's got it, but he had

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<v Speaker 3>to sit up three years behind Brett Fahr, a Hall

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<v Speaker 3>of famer. Kirk Cousins is no Hall of Famer. Kirk

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<v Speaker 3>Cousins was lousy in Atlanta. Kirk Cousins gets you nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Kirk Cousins gives you wasted snaps. It's wasted snaps.

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather.

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<v Speaker 3>I would rather this kid play, take his lumps, and

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<v Speaker 3>if they're bad, get another top pick.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be in the middle of the pack.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I have a middling end of his career quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>who's just going to keep us afloat and win enough

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<v Speaker 3>game so that we don't get the number one pick

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<v Speaker 3>or top pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, that's what I'm saying. I want all of nothing. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we know that's you, Rob, We know that you want

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<v Speaker 2>all or nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>We know, But again, I think the bigger indictment it

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<v Speaker 4>really is the whole roster. Like I think again, I

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<v Speaker 4>think if they were a solid and again they just

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<v Speaker 4>were not as bad as a record showed that, I

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<v Speaker 4>think they'd roll them out there. But I think the

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<v Speaker 4>issue is they're so young. They're the colts team though,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just asking you. I mean, I'm not gonna I

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<v Speaker 4>can give you examples. I know, did he have Marshall

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<v Speaker 4>fought back?

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<v Speaker 5>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Did Peyton right off the back gear?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he had some pieces out there where you

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<v Speaker 4>can say, all right, we got something rolling. No, they

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<v Speaker 4>were bad, but I no, no doubt. But also too,

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<v Speaker 4>Mendoza ain't Peyton. Let's be clear, like he can end

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<v Speaker 4>up having a fine career overall, yeh pick and that happens.

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<v Speaker 4>That War was the first overall pick. He ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be Payton either. I mean, you know when you know

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<v Speaker 4>that somebody Peyton was different. Peyton was generational from the

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<v Speaker 4>day he stepped into Tennessee. We knew from the jump

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<v Speaker 4>this is what he was. Interceptions I'm talking about in college.

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<v Speaker 4>We know what Peyton was gonna be from high school

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<v Speaker 4>to college to when he got.

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<v Speaker 2>To the pro. I'm saying I didn't know his first year.

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<v Speaker 4>Mendoes, sure, right, he had a rough first year. Mendoza

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<v Speaker 4>is slow rolling into this thing. Robbie came out the blue.

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<v Speaker 4>You never even heard of him. You heard of the

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<v Speaker 4>Mendoza line, not Fernando Mendoza, and then all of a

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<v Speaker 4>sudden he comes in and has an incredible h what

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<v Speaker 4>was that his twelfth.

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<v Speaker 2>Year in college? Rus Let's let's let's take advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 3>The players in the NFL are around the same age

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<v Speaker 3>of the players in Indiana last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you ain't lying.

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<v Speaker 4>And with all this going back and forth, guys getting

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<v Speaker 4>contract and can go back. I don't know how old

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<v Speaker 4>like you're gonna have twenty eight year olds rookies.

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<v Speaker 2>And he played with twenty eight year olds that Indiana.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever it was, the average age was like twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>in college.

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<v Speaker 2>He put a little extra sauce on it. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was old. It was old. But that'st rob g. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like twenty five. It was like.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty five thirty one pick one. But you don't get

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<v Speaker 4>my point. I do, no, no, no, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, just to me, I think they're gonna say,

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<v Speaker 4>Kirk Cousins, you take those lumps. If there are lumps

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<v Speaker 4>to be had that you're talking about, you go out there,

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<v Speaker 4>you set the tone, You show this young guy something.

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<v Speaker 4>We can get these younger players on this roster, get

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<v Speaker 4>them developed, slowly he's gonna I think he's gonna start

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<v Speaker 4>probably halfway through the season, maybe a little early, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>week six seven is but I think they just want

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<v Speaker 4>to get to get him more acclimated.

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<v Speaker 3>Make you know some of those how does he get

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<v Speaker 3>more acclimated? Not playing seriously like.

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<v Speaker 2>I because if you get smoked.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a dude named David Carr, not even Derek Carr,

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<v Speaker 4>who still has PTSD from getting smoked out there. Cam

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<v Speaker 4>Ward is noay near as bad as he looked last year,

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<v Speaker 4>but he was getting smoked. Sometimes when you know your

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<v Speaker 4>team is horrific, rob and then sometimes your team is

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<v Speaker 4>we're better than we look. And if it's horrific, I

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<v Speaker 4>think they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Want Tom out terrific this year and next year he

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<v Speaker 3>still shouldn't play, right how long you're gonna wait?

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<v Speaker 4>Well now but six?

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<v Speaker 3>But week six gonna be good? Is that like to

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<v Speaker 3>explain how they got.

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<v Speaker 2>The guys will have guys will have played.

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<v Speaker 4>You would have been able to find out who's who

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<v Speaker 4>if you need to switch if this started to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, you find out they're no good, they're still on good,

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<v Speaker 3>so you delay his start.

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<v Speaker 2>They may be starting his quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>People have historically not started off the bat rob We

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<v Speaker 4>have so many we have examples of both.

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<v Speaker 6>You.

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<v Speaker 4>We got guys who got thrown in the fire. We

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<v Speaker 4>got guys who have have had to wait a year

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<v Speaker 4>or two like that. Especially historically, it was war common

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<v Speaker 4>for you to come in and wait, not come in

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<v Speaker 4>and try to be a savior of a horrific team. So,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's not gonna be crazy if they make

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<v Speaker 4>them wait a year. That's not gonna be like all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, some some we've never seen this before.

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<v Speaker 3>This just sounds to me like there their convincement those

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna be a bust. I'm gonna be on the record,

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<v Speaker 3>That's where I'm at that he's gonna be a bust ultimately.

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<v Speaker 3>And they don't have the confidence that this guy who

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<v Speaker 3>took Indiana to a national championship and played some of

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<v Speaker 3>the best college football quarterback and that we had seen

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<v Speaker 3>right and and did the unthinkable should be that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like people were telling Joe Burrow, don't go

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<v Speaker 3>to Cincinnati, what a bad franchise, you have no shot

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<v Speaker 3>to win. They were trying to tell him he should

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<v Speaker 3>pull an Eli Manning and his camp should should say

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<v Speaker 3>not to I'm not going there. Don't draft me. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to Cincinnati. They had lost their last seven

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<v Speaker 3>playoff games coming into the time that Joe Burrow showed

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<v Speaker 3>up in Cincinnati. And guess what, he gets hurt his

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<v Speaker 3>first year, right, because they're not that good.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't protect him.

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<v Speaker 3>He gets hurt, comes back his second year, and takes

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<v Speaker 3>that franchise to the super Bowl. I'm sorry, that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I want from my quarterback. Uh, why can't that?

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<v Speaker 4>You just said he went out there and got hurt

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<v Speaker 4>because they were terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>You're telling me.

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<v Speaker 4>You're telling me hurt because they're terrible. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>You could get hurt at any time in football. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just you can't, baby p. I'm sorry. There's no perfect

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<v Speaker 3>scenario to break a quarterback in and make him feel comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Put the guy out there and let him play. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, you know I had a sixteen team, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the Detroit I saw a guy coming there and and

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, play through it wanted to be there

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<v Speaker 4>and and and showed us, Okay, you know this guy's

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<v Speaker 4>got some talent.

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<v Speaker 2>He might be he might be good for us.

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<v Speaker 4>So I've been there when they threw him in the fire,

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<v Speaker 4>and and then you know, ultimately he improved, got to

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<v Speaker 4>the postseason a couple of times. He left some on

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<v Speaker 4>the table every now and again. But so I've seen

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<v Speaker 4>it all both ways. I just I don't know for

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<v Speaker 4>whatever reasons they believe, that's why they went and got

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<v Speaker 4>this veteran Kirk Cousins to to be there for him,

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<v Speaker 4>and so he didn't get his legs snapped out there.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what Kirk. You get, You get snapped up and

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<v Speaker 4>beat up. Not Mendoza. We got some hope. But we're

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<v Speaker 4>the youngest. Heck, I think they got like, uh, they're

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<v Speaker 4>the youngest roster in NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>The host of two fools from Philly who have the

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Fusco show.

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<v Speaker 2>No way, no how it looks like it.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe Deshaun Watson starting for the Browns. Where you're at

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<v Speaker 4>rob when it comes to the quarterback or lack the

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<v Speaker 4>up situation with the Browns.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Shadoor has missed the golden opportunity. The Browns

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have a quarterback really to Sean Watson despite his contract,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand, like I hear the excuse of people saying, well, well,

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<v Speaker 3>they can't cut him because it would be a massive

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<v Speaker 3>cap hit. Okay, we got that. But if I have

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<v Speaker 3>to pay the contract anyway, right, he could be the

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<v Speaker 3>backup quarterback and sit there where I don't damage the

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<v Speaker 3>salary cap. I mean, you know the cap hit, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta pay him anyway if my best chance to win,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm Todd Monkin and I'm trying to be a

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<v Speaker 3>head coach in the NFL, and my best opportunity to

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<v Speaker 3>win is by playing Shador Sandals, who's making way less money.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna play Shador Sanders.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make any sense to start to Sean Watson.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because of the salary.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to pay it regardless, So I could pay it.

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<v Speaker 3>Play Shador Sanders because he's the best quarterback and win

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<v Speaker 3>some games and maybe solidify another year as a head

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<v Speaker 3>coach in the NFL, or get another contract.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm Todd Monkin, I can't. I don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>To me.

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<v Speaker 3>Shador Sanders hasn't done enough last year or this year

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<v Speaker 3>for anybody to buy into him. There's no bonus playing

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<v Speaker 3>Deshaun Watson.

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<v Speaker 2>He has.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been bad since he came from Houston right he

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<v Speaker 3>was injured. Every strike is against Sean Watson. Every plus

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<v Speaker 3>is for Schador Sanders and Todd Monkin and the brown

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<v Speaker 3>still don't want to make him the starting quarterback. What

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<v Speaker 3>does that tell you? It tells you he hasn't done

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<v Speaker 3>enough to convince people in that organization that he's a

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<v Speaker 3>starting quarterback in the NFL. Because the Browns are about

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<v Speaker 3>as low as you get. Yeah, I mean you get

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<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense to listen, I said it. You

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<v Speaker 3>and I have talked about it. I understand it. But

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<v Speaker 3>you could still place Shador if you think he's better.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think I pay money anyway. I think Shador

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<v Speaker 3>will play. I think we did a similar Listen, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a reason why.

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<v Speaker 2>I start him?

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<v Speaker 4>No, why not start I don't. I'll tell you why.

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<v Speaker 4>When you're a new coach, you got a guy who's

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<v Speaker 4>been in it. This will be year two for Shador

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<v Speaker 4>and obviously if he let's assume let's say he was

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<v Speaker 4>a starter, this will be his first, you know, year

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<v Speaker 4>as a full time starter if that was the case.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not right now. And I think when you're

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<v Speaker 4>looking at Deshaun Watson, it's a safer picking that. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>he's a veteran. He knows he didn't play, he got

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<v Speaker 4>hurt last year, right, But he's been in the league

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<v Speaker 4>now for DAK in a decade, So I'm saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>he's a veteran. He he you know, he knows the

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<v Speaker 4>ins and out better to be a pro than than

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<v Speaker 4>Shador does. And I think the money does I think

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<v Speaker 4>you're understating or under selling the money a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>more than I would.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that matters.

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<v Speaker 4>Because yes, I have to pay him, because I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>if I have to pay him, then I might.

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<v Speaker 2>As well get something out of him. No, no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not nice.

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<v Speaker 3>He can't help you win, but especially that makes you

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<v Speaker 3>have a new coach whose career is.

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<v Speaker 2>On the line. Do you do you?

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<v Speaker 4>But this is where Chardeur I agree that he hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>made a massive separation between the two. I'm completely in

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<v Speaker 4>agreement with that. It's not as if chadors come out

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, look like uh uh prime Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 4>or something where you're like, clearly, that's our guy. I

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<v Speaker 4>think if he's been playing coach, and all the reports

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<v Speaker 4>of coming out of training camp was that Shadur was

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<v Speaker 4>playing better, he had better hired a completion percentage, he

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<v Speaker 4>hadn't thrown an interception at all during training camp. So

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<v Speaker 4>the that's a slight gap in the game, right, slightly

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<v Speaker 4>and better played during training camp for Shador. But I

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned this the other day to you, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>have to be a larger separation gap in my opinion

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<v Speaker 4>because if that if not, well, I'm gonna roll with

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<v Speaker 4>the guy who's a veteran, and we owe the money anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>give him a look, just give them one more chance.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I think they would do. You do, Calvin,

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<v Speaker 4>I am in favor of starting to George. If he

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<v Speaker 4>goes out there and flames out, at least I can say, man,

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<v Speaker 4>look we gave you last year. It was a difficult situation.

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<v Speaker 4>We're starting three four different quarterbacks. Last year it was

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<v Speaker 4>a mess. I'll give you that. I will concede that

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<v Speaker 4>we saw some things we didn't like this. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>work on that. You had a couple of throws as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's give you a chance this year, new coast. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>start this thing. He's got a new system. Let's roll it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all I would prefer to do, because for me, Rob,

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<v Speaker 4>I know what I have with with Deshaun Watson.

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<v Speaker 2>See here, here's where.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna push back, and I don't I don't buy

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<v Speaker 3>your argument at all. If I'm Todd Monkin, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>like the NFL stands for not for long, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna put it in. Somebody will say, what what

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<v Speaker 3>kind of coature you put in? A broken down Deshaun Watson,

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<v Speaker 3>who hasn't played well since he stepped into Cleveland. You

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<v Speaker 3>have this everybody's ran and raving about Shador Sanders and

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<v Speaker 3>he's got the eight factor and he's selling the most

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<v Speaker 3>jerseys in the NFL, and everybody's all excited in the

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<v Speaker 3>fan base wants them. And you don't play him, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And but you play the guy who you have to

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<v Speaker 3>pay regardless whether he plays or not. The idea of

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<v Speaker 3>getting something out of him doesn't make any sense to

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<v Speaker 3>me if you believe you have a guy in Shador

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<v Speaker 3>Sanders who can be a quarterback, who can be.

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<v Speaker 2>The same thing. I bring up the same argument all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>And Pete Carroll in Seattle where they have Matt Flynn

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<v Speaker 3>in place, they went and they got him from Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, yes, we finally got a quarterback. And

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<v Speaker 3>this Russell Wilson, who I believe Rob g correct me

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<v Speaker 3>was a fourth round pick, right third or fourth?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Third, okay, third round pick. When Russell Wilson shows up

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<v Speaker 3>and they immediately go, oh no, our quarterback is right.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this guy right here. It's this guy. And

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<v Speaker 2>that started the turnaround.

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<v Speaker 3>And my point is, if Shador has anything, anything that

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<v Speaker 3>you can build on, and you're Todd Monkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you noticed, Kevin. I'll give you one other example.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a TV being in the TV business, the coach

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<v Speaker 3>or the news director isn't going to mess around with

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<v Speaker 3>Rob Parker because I've already been there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what you get from him.

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<v Speaker 3>Kelvin Washington is the new hotshot reporter that I brought

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<v Speaker 3>in when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Took over the news division.

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<v Speaker 3>If we get better numbers, I'm gonna get credit for

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<v Speaker 3>Kelvin because I put him in place. If I go

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<v Speaker 3>back to DeShawn watching, I don't get anything for that.

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<v Speaker 3>If I can identify Shador Saying as the next quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>of the Browns, I'm gonna cement myself there in the

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<v Speaker 3>organization because I made the gutsy move. I didn't play

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback who had the bigger contract. I played the

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback with the best talent. And that's what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to that is that he doesn't have the talent. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why they're not picking him.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna sit up there and act like he's

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<v Speaker 4>coming in there looking like you know, peaking when Cam

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<v Speaker 4>Newton was, you know, just the physical specimen coming in and.

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<v Speaker 2>I, oh, shoot, look at this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Even when we see Cam Newton at the super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a special.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't be walking around here six six chisel up

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<v Speaker 4>still looking all handsome and tall and no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>he's got to relax. But here's where I'll counter your point,

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<v Speaker 4>Rob when you say they're not for long.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me start the guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the safety valve is Schauduur in this case,

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<v Speaker 4>and that you roll out to Seawan. And if he

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<v Speaker 4>looks like DeShawn meaning man, you know, not horror, but

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<v Speaker 4>this e you can and then you can say hold on,

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<v Speaker 4>hold on, hold on, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait wait,

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<v Speaker 4>I can go to Shador where there's optimism, still a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit, there's some hope, there's some maybe in this

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<v Speaker 4>there's some ooh, we'll have to wait and see. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>he gets better, maybe he's improved. So if you're saying,

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<v Speaker 4>as a coach, I'm looking at the opposite. If I

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<v Speaker 4>start with your door and he comes out bad and

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, well we gotta go to DeShawn, then it's

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<v Speaker 4>a rap. Not that you're gonna get fired, but meaning

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<v Speaker 4>the optimism and hope is gone. If I had to

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<v Speaker 4>go to.

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<v Speaker 3>The Sean coach, and you go with your door and

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<v Speaker 3>they start playing better because he plays he had some

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback savvy and and make some throws and you win games.

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<v Speaker 4>It's exact cause I get to go, all right, Deshaun

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<v Speaker 4>is looking at you know's and but whoo, I got

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<v Speaker 4>to wait. If a fan, you're gonna wait till we

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<v Speaker 4>can put your door. Let's see, he's gonna get better.

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<v Speaker 4>He's gonna improve. He's got another year under his belt,

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<v Speaker 4>a new system, and I can prolong that hope and

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<v Speaker 4>finally get him out there. If I'm a coach and say,

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<v Speaker 4>now here is my game plan was to let him

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<v Speaker 4>get better, to let him grow, and now he's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>roll out to me, that's the opposite. I'm rolling that

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<v Speaker 4>out off the bet because again I'm with you, I

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<v Speaker 4>do agree. I don't think she Doer's coming out like Gangbuster,

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<v Speaker 4>where it's obvious that he has to be the starter.

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<v Speaker 4>I think from just some only based off reports we

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<v Speaker 4>ain in Cleveland, is that he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing better make any sense.

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<v Speaker 3>It tells you every opportunity should be for the young

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<v Speaker 3>guy with the upside. To Shaun Watson is not the

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<v Speaker 3>young guy with the upside and the idea that he's

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<v Speaker 3>that they still would rather go over him tells you

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<v Speaker 3>that your door doesn't have it. I've been covering the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL since nineteen eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm saying the bias is the damn Marino that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm completely an agree. But I got to roll somebody

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<v Speaker 4>out there for seventeen weeks and have some optimism and

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<v Speaker 4>get my even my own players, let alone the crowd

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<v Speaker 4>the fans. I gotta give my players something to believe it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think she Doer can offer that more than

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<v Speaker 4>de Shaun.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't listening to Fox Sports Robert Smith, former NFL off

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<v Speaker 3>for running back Fox Sports football analysts.

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<v Speaker 2>You can follow him Robert twenty six Smith. What's up, man?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh Man, I'm good. I'm here, Rob. I watched you

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<v Speaker 5>on this rant yesterday. Man, it was so funny about

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<v Speaker 5>the one about the one about Shad And you know

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<v Speaker 5>it's funny because I was up in Cleveland a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of weeks ago and I was at practice, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I saw some really good throws from him, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe some of the best throws that I had seen

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<v Speaker 5>from him. And look, I jump online. I'm like, hey, no,

0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:28.600
<v Speaker 5>it's a small sample size, blah blah blah. But these

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<v Speaker 5>are two really good throws. But I think the points

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<v Speaker 5>that the points that you were making though, are so true,

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<v Speaker 5>Like people just don't understand, like the coach making a

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<v Speaker 5>damn decision to please the fans, like they're worried about

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<v Speaker 5>their job. Right was too, and all these people in

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<v Speaker 5>some of these talking hits, like I'm surprised quite Franklyn,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll just say it, like even a guy like Lewis Riddick,

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<v Speaker 5>like I was surprised to hear him come out and

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<v Speaker 5>say this stuff because he, more than anybody else, knows

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<v Speaker 5>what it's like inside of you know, the offices, right

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<v Speaker 5>the front office. Everybody's trying to keep their damn job.

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<v Speaker 5>And if they think a guy's going to give them

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<v Speaker 5>a chance to win, you better believe they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>And I keep telling people, you stop with the conspiracies.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh they don't want him to this, and they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to keep them in it. I'm like, if a guy

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<v Speaker 3>can play, they're going to put them out there? Are

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<v Speaker 3>you kidding? And you know this, you played in the

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<v Speaker 3>National Football League. All the players on the field know

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<v Speaker 3>who deserves to play or not, Robert, don't they They know?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so, Robert, the guys definitely know. And but what

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 5>you said was so true, Like you can't take and

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't trying to do it, but you can't take

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of clips on Twitter and say, well, this

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 5>guy definitely deserves a job. The guys that are doing

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<v Speaker 5>the evaluation, they're with them every day, like you said,

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 5>the guys in the locker room, they know we should play.

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<v Speaker 2>Who will to play? To you there, Robert, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>who's would you start?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they have the most amazing back situation

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<v Speaker 4>ei of the way, but who would you start? I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to do her because I want to see if

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<v Speaker 4>there's any any upside at all before I go back

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<v Speaker 4>to what I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Watson, that's me. Where are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well they're going to start him this weekend, I know,

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<v Speaker 5>but at the beginning of the season, I just I

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<v Speaker 5>can't answer that yet. Like Dashawn looked really he looked

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<v Speaker 5>really stiff. And I look, he hasn't played since twenty

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<v Speaker 5>four right, like, and I just I think he was

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<v Speaker 5>it looked like he was just even little throws in

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<v Speaker 5>that game. Last week. You know, I saw some clips

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<v Speaker 5>again from practice yesterday that looked much better from both

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 5>of them, right, and really good downfield, tight window throws.

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<v Speaker 5>But I can't say automatically that I would go with

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<v Speaker 5>Shadur because ultimately it is about winning games, and I

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<v Speaker 5>know that you want to see what you have for

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<v Speaker 5>the future. But if you don't think that guy is

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<v Speaker 5>really capable of winning you games, don't I don't think.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think you do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Automatically, no doubt, Robert Smith is I guess here own

0:24:57.560 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 3>a Dan Patrick Sheldy, a couple filling in.

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<v Speaker 2>For Dan and the Dan Nets. Let's get to the

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<v Speaker 2>NIL and the college sports where we are because I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe that, Rob. I want to hear from you and

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<v Speaker 3>h seven forty million dollars rosters right, six million higher

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<v Speaker 3>than the first NFL salary cap in nineteen ninety four.

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<v Speaker 3>And Robert, it's not amateur college sports anymore. It's professional sports,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it.

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Speaker 5>But it's professional sports without rules, that's the crazy part, right,

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 5>And the rules just get reinvented. It seems like every

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<v Speaker 5>other week right now, Soresby, I know it's a different

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 5>situation because you know, the gambling was involved. But you know,

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:47.360
<v Speaker 5>you get a judge in Lubbock, you know, getting some

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<v Speaker 5>you know, temporary restraining order or you know, injunction, whatever

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<v Speaker 5>the case may be, just changing things like crazy. And

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<v Speaker 5>then you get the ruling in Colorado over five years.

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<v Speaker 5>And then you get the ruling which is really surprising

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<v Speaker 5>out of Louisiana. And now this only applies, I guess

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 5>to these twelve or sixteen players. I can't remember which,

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.239
<v Speaker 5>if it's twelve or sixteen, right, but these guys, some

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<v Speaker 5>of these guys are in camp and you're saying that

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 5>they're eligible to go back and play. Now, this is

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 5>one of those cases like to me, everybody hates the

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 5>NC double A and they always want to target the

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<v Speaker 5>NC double A. But this is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob.

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<v Speaker 5>Like when I was when I was back when when

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 5>I was at ESPN and I was interviewing and you know,

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 5>I was, I was up up up at Michigan with

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 5>rich Rod and he pulls out like an NC double

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<v Speaker 5>A book and he's like, you know what, I gotta

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<v Speaker 5>be honest. He's like, we're the reason this thing is

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<v Speaker 5>that thick, right, Like he's looking at the rule book

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 5>like the reason is because coaches want to cheat, the

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 5>everybody wants to blame the NC double A. Nobody ever

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 5>wanted to blame the coaches and the presidents from you know,

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 5>violating the rules and coming up with a bunch of

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 5>complicated rules that the NC double A had to try

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<v Speaker 5>to force. Now we have a bunch, We just have

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 5>a wild west man. We get a bunch of rulings

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 5>and nobody knows what's next, and it's just okay, well,

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:11.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, I guess we're just gonna have to find

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 5>a way to spend more money. It's just it's crazy, man.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know where this thing ends. They have to

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<v Speaker 5>get some sort of system that holds everybody accountable.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I got to ask you something else about this,

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 4>but quickly you did bring up you brought up Michigan

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<v Speaker 4>in it, and it took everything I had to be

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<v Speaker 4>nice to you, Robert, because when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm born and raised ann Arbor and used

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<v Speaker 4>to torture us when you we run out Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't appreciate I was.

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<v Speaker 5>One and I was oh one and one against michiganant

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<v Speaker 5>towards anybody in Maze and blue eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you listen, I don't want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, when I got to go against you and see

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.400
<v Speaker 4>you run it out there, dang it, I still got

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 4>memories of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go here with you. We just talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this.

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<v Speaker 4>The idea that you look, you meant played at Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 4>then you become a pro what about these pro sign

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<v Speaker 4>of contracts and then say never mind, let me go

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<v Speaker 4>back to college. Now, what do you make of this

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 4>where they're allowing this new Uh? This the judge that

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 4>allowed this for these guys that go back.

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 2>What do you make of that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>That was that was the rule that I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>referring to the ruling I was referring to in Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the one right right, you got you got, you

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<v Speaker 5>got some of these guys in camp. Uh you know that,

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 5>the even guys that are making plays, you know, like

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 5>the what's the team private? Is the one down with

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 5>the bucks? He need a couple of sex in the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Now he's gonna let me go quarterback some college quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 4>and yeah, not only be eligible to come back, but

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<v Speaker 4>to be you know, in the damn portal.

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<v Speaker 5>But here's the thing. Seasons a week and a half away,

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 5>right like you? And look, I know you can play

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 5>with the numbers a little bit. You still have one

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 5>hundred and five man roster rules, so you can cut

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 5>some you know, walk ons or you know, some lower

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 5>level guys, but do you have the money to sign them,

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 5>and you know, do you want to mess with locker

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 5>room chemistry? There are a lot of issues there, but

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 5>you know, it depends on which program you are, right, Like,

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 5>if you're a program, you know, it's funny the unnamed

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 5>sources inside of the Big twelve I heard this, like,

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 5>damn right, we need a couple more players, Like, let's

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 5>just open it wide. Let's make it wide open because

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 5>they want to add some people. But they got to

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 5>have these rules. They can't have guys signing contracts because

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 5>I guess that rule still exists.

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Right, Like Robert, I'll say this though, here's why I

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 3>don't have an issue with it. They're making money in college.

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 3>It's not amateur anymore. So they're making millions of dollars

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 3>in college. And you know this, if you're not on

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 3>an NFL roster player, you know, to start the season,

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 3>you haven't made it to the NFL.

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 2>You're not an NFL player.

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 3>You're if you could even look at the headline on

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 3>the story and it said NFL training camp x NFL

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 3>training camp players, because you're not an NFL.

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Player until you make the league. They start with the NFL,

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>but it's not the NF. You're not make the team.

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 2>You're not you're not an NFL. A lot of guys

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 2>have a couple of coffee in the three role.

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<v Speaker 5>You take the chance, you take the chance you leave

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 5>the school, you make the school make all kinds of

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 5>decisions about, well, we need to sign this guy because

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 5>this guy is going to the pros. Now you're like, oh,

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 5>well I didn't make it, so I want to go

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 5>back too, bad boy, Robert, that's a chance if you're

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 5>leaving early. Especially, Look, if you get your four or five,

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 5>you get your five years or four years of eligibility

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 5>in your five years, you had your chance. Like, how

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 5>long are those guys supposed to be able to go back?

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute.

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 3>We just saw Indiana win a national championship with the

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 3>average age of twenty five or six, twenty four, I'm.

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 2>In to college. There were twenty eight year olds out there.

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Robert and everybody celebrated Indiana like this was the old days?

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding? Twenty eight?

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 5>That was? That was first of all. I mean, let's

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 5>talk about that Indiana winning a national championship in football.

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 5>It's crazy, right, that's insanity right there. But it wasn't

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 5>with a bunch of ineligible players that had turned pro

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 5>and then come back. That's to me, that's it. That's it.

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 5>That's got to be clearly defined and that's a no

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 5>for me. Once it got pro, that's it, man, Because

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 5>you know, you got all these high school kids coming up.

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 5>Where are they? Where are they supposed to go? Are

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 5>they supposed to be competing against twenty eight year old

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 5>guys who washed out in the league?

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Right? You guys? Are the players going back to college?

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 4>Robert Rob Parker the owner, than the teacher, the professors.

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 3>But but, but, but this is the problem. The the

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 3>NCAA didn't want them to have a union, to unionize

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 3>because you were talking about with no rules.

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Robert had the.

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 3>NCAA put in a in place or or took over

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 3>the idea of playing play or some go of money.

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 3>They didn't want to do it, so they made it

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 3>a wow wow West. There's no collective bargaining. So there

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 3>are no rules, and that's why we have the mess

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 3>that we have. Would you agree with that that you

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 3>need a collective boggaining agreement.

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's no question you need a collective barry agreeing.

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 5>But here's the thing that I go back to this

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 5>argument about the NC DOUBLEA. Like people want to say

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 5>they want to talk about the NC DOUBLEA, but they

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 5>don't want to talk about their own schools and their

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 5>own presidents and their own coaches. But make no mistake

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 5>about it, the NC double A is trying to make

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 5>rules at the behest from all those coaches and those

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 5>presidents and those athletic directors. They're the ones that want

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 5>those restrictions and they know they need those restrictions. Just

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 5>to my point about rich Rodriguez saying, we're the reason

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 5>that those rule books are so complicated. But you do

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<v Speaker 5>need some sort of system in place. But now if

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<v Speaker 5>they're employees, now it's work comp issue. Like there are

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<v Speaker 5>so many issues that this brings about that people haven't

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<v Speaker 5>even considered when they're actually employees of the university. But

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<v Speaker 5>the good thing about that for the universities and for

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<v Speaker 5>these coaches is you get some certainty because the contracts

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<v Speaker 5>are two way, and the players can't just say well,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to sign here this year and then go

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<v Speaker 5>somewhere else next year. That's been the real disastrous. Not

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<v Speaker 5>just nil, but it's a portal every year, and multiple portals.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, real quick before, as Robert, real quick, we're

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<v Speaker 2>up against it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to ask you, since we had you

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<v Speaker 4>the idea of fans voting in the Heisman Trophy for

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<v Speaker 4>the award.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you in that? It's terrible and.

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<v Speaker 5>Such a bad idea it's barely worth discussing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>that's just an awful idea.

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<v Speaker 3>And Robert, everything is for sale, everything is a gimmick.

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<v Speaker 2>Is so bad, man, what they've done to college football.

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<v Speaker 3>And as a guy who excelled was a great player

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<v Speaker 3>in college football, you don't even recognize this game, do you.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's it is so different, man. It's it's

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<v Speaker 5>interesting you say that because when Ohio State won the

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<v Speaker 5>national championship a couple of years ago. You know, my

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<v Speaker 5>initial reaction was, you know, I'm always happy when Ohio

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<v Speaker 5>State wins.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, but it just.

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<v Speaker 5>It just felt different, man, It just it felt completely different.

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<v Speaker 5>And like you know, some people will say, whatever aunch

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<v Speaker 5>or you know, yeah, but like to me, like back

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<v Speaker 5>back in my day, like we all made the choice. Man,

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<v Speaker 5>we made the choice to go play at the same school, right,

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<v Speaker 5>And it was just and it was just so different.

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<v Speaker 5>And people joked about this stuff all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Once I got to the league, it was like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 5>we know you took a pay cut to come to

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<v Speaker 5>come into the league. Like, hey, I'm going to tell

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<v Speaker 5>you this, honestly, I know we don't have a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of time. I got my first car five months before

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<v Speaker 5>I got drafted. It broke three months before I got drafted. Nope,

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<v Speaker 5>Joe eighty five Cutlass Sierra in nineteen ninety three, swear.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know we used to get we used to

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<v Speaker 5>collect the tickets because the tickets for the games, because

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<v Speaker 5>they had free singles with cheese from Wendy's for free

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<v Speaker 5>singles from Wendy's. So we would collect those tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, I love that part of the show.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm happy for the guys today. But it's it's unrecognized.

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<v Speaker 4>You missed today. Man, you would have been in a

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<v Speaker 4>g wagon. Robert, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to go.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is this is what you sounded like on

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<v Speaker 3>radio today, here we go, No damn, you don't mind.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll I'll just end with go bars there, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate it, Thank you,