Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Bronto. Mendoza had his
Speaker 1: primetime debut his second preseason game. He went eight for
Speaker 1: fifteen eighty six yards and ugly, ugly, ugly, pick six
Speaker 1: and attacking one half of work against the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: So we'll call it mixed reviews for the number one
Speaker 1: draft pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know people are people in Las Vegas really excited
Speaker 3: Kelvin because I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm rob G. That's his team.
Speaker 3: I know Tom Brady, that was the guy they chose
Speaker 3: and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And I get it.
Speaker 3: He won a national championship. He played great right last
Speaker 3: year with Indiana. Huh, But I'm not convinced that he's
Speaker 3: going to be that guy and people talk about all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 2: Just because you're the first overall pick.
Speaker 3: We've seen plenty of guys wash out and not make
Speaker 3: it and be a bust. I was always skeptical of
Speaker 3: the NFL with the idea of the Raiders and Mendoza
Speaker 3: not having any national games, Like, like, Kelvin, to me,
Speaker 3: that's just.
Speaker 2: Since win, you don't want to see number one overall.
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: I'm serious that people are like, oh well, they don't
Speaker 3: think he's gonna start, and he so they're not putting
Speaker 3: any games on and they could flex in. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: the idea that he's the first overall pick and they're
Speaker 3: not sure.
Speaker 2: I don't even know. Are they gonna start them or
Speaker 2: are they gonna make them sit? And wait?
Speaker 3: I mean, rob G, you're the Raiders. Got what what
Speaker 3: are they saying? Because it sounds like it's mixed.
Speaker 2: On a big seat. He's gonna have a big seat.
Speaker 1: They're making it seem like there's a competition. But you know,
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins didn't even dress yesterday, so that kind of
Speaker 1: tells you all you need to know.
Speaker 4: You know, I call him Kirk, your cousin, not mine.
Speaker 4: He is definitely gonna be starting number one. It just
Speaker 4: when you look at this this Raiders team, I mean,
Speaker 4: rob G, you know that's your squad. They're so young,
Speaker 4: rob there's one thing to just be bad, and we
Speaker 4: know in the NFL sometimes bad isn't horrible, right, Sometimes
Speaker 4: it's just a few plays didn't go your way, and
Speaker 4: now you're seven and ten or you're you know, you're
Speaker 4: eight and something or six and eleven, When he really
Speaker 4: weren't that bad, and the next year you turn around,
Speaker 4: at least you're you're a better squad. Then there's sometimes
Speaker 4: you were just future and you got a lot to
Speaker 4: figure out. And the Raiders are closer to the ladder.
Speaker 4: I mean they have a lot to figure out. They're
Speaker 4: very young. They're trying to get some nice pieces. You know,
Speaker 4: they're hoping the gent works out at the running back.
Speaker 4: They still got bauered. They got some pieces offense. They
Speaker 4: hope that Mendoza eventually will get there.
Speaker 2: But rob this.
Speaker 4: Team, they ain't there yet. Tom Brady ain't walking through
Speaker 4: that door as the quarterback. Now he might walk through
Speaker 4: as a minority owner. But he's got a lot of
Speaker 4: work to do. And and if you were able to
Speaker 4: watch some of the plays, he made some nice drows,
Speaker 4: which is why obviously that's why he's the number one pick.
Speaker 4: He looked comfortable at some times, got the ball out,
Speaker 4: got the offense moving, and that bad that throw across
Speaker 4: the middle of the interception was terrible. And you're gonna
Speaker 4: learn that number one thing you hear all the time.
Speaker 4: The speed is much faster in the pros. That little
Speaker 4: crossbody across the middle of the field pass you normally
Speaker 4: can do in college, you ain't doing that in the pros.
Speaker 4: And so he's gonna learn that for sure. But I
Speaker 4: definitely expect a slow roll. If you're Raiders and you
Speaker 4: say and you woy believe this is your guy, then
Speaker 4: there's no rush.
Speaker 2: You're hoping to have him for a greater.
Speaker 4: Decade, decade and a half, and so they're not going
Speaker 4: to run a little different.
Speaker 2: I'm in a different school. If you can play and
Speaker 2: make an impact, you should play. The only way you really.
Speaker 3: Learn to play in the National Football League is going
Speaker 3: out there all the people, the great players. No one's
Speaker 3: putting them on a leash. No one's telling them we're
Speaker 3: going to pump the brakes on you. You just go
Speaker 3: out there and you learn. Peyton Manning was one of
Speaker 3: a bad Indianapolis team. He threw a million interceptions, right,
Speaker 3: Peyton Manning wasn't Peyton Manning year one. Go back and look,
Speaker 3: he almost threw thirty interceptions he did his rookie year.
Speaker 3: So you can't explain or tell me that the best way.
Speaker 2: Is to sit.
Speaker 3: Now, we got the Aaron Rodgers example, but there's a
Speaker 3: reason Aaron Rodgers sat. You had a future Hall of
Speaker 3: Famer there still able to play. That's the only reason
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers didn't play, not that he couldn't play. Everybody
Speaker 3: said in practice, this guy's got it, but he had
Speaker 3: to sit up three years behind Brett Fahr, a Hall
Speaker 3: of famer. Kirk Cousins is no Hall of Famer. Kirk
Speaker 3: Cousins was lousy in Atlanta. Kirk Cousins gets you nothing.
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins gives you wasted snaps. It's wasted snaps.
Speaker 2: I would rather.
Speaker 3: I would rather this kid play, take his lumps, and
Speaker 3: if they're bad, get another top pick.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in the middle of the pack.
Speaker 3: Because I have a middling end of his career quarterback
Speaker 3: who's just going to keep us afloat and win enough
Speaker 3: game so that we don't get the number one pick
Speaker 3: or top pick.
Speaker 2: Again, that's what I'm saying. I want all of nothing. Well,
Speaker 2: we know that's you, Rob, We know that you want
Speaker 2: all or nothing.
Speaker 4: We know, But again, I think the bigger indictment it
Speaker 4: really is the whole roster. Like I think again, I
Speaker 4: think if they were a solid and again they just
Speaker 4: were not as bad as a record showed that, I
Speaker 4: think they'd roll them out there. But I think the
Speaker 4: issue is they're so young. They're the colts team though,
Speaker 4: I'm just asking you. I mean, I'm not gonna I
Speaker 4: can give you examples. I know, did he have Marshall
Speaker 4: fought back?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 2: Did Peyton right off the back gear?
Speaker 4: I mean he had some pieces out there where you
Speaker 4: can say, all right, we got something rolling. No, they
Speaker 4: were bad, but I no, no doubt. But also too,
Speaker 4: Mendoza ain't Peyton. Let's be clear, like he can end
Speaker 4: up having a fine career overall, yeh pick and that happens.
Speaker 4: That War was the first overall pick. He ain't gonna
Speaker 4: be Payton either. I mean, you know when you know
Speaker 4: that somebody Peyton was different. Peyton was generational from the
Speaker 4: day he stepped into Tennessee. We knew from the jump
Speaker 4: this is what he was. Interceptions I'm talking about in college.
Speaker 4: We know what Peyton was gonna be from high school
Speaker 4: to college to when he got.
Speaker 2: To the pro. I'm saying I didn't know his first year.
Speaker 4: Mendoes, sure, right, he had a rough first year. Mendoza
Speaker 4: is slow rolling into this thing. Robbie came out the blue.
Speaker 4: You never even heard of him. You heard of the
Speaker 4: Mendoza line, not Fernando Mendoza, and then all of a
Speaker 4: sudden he comes in and has an incredible h what
Speaker 4: was that his twelfth.
Speaker 2: Year in college? Rus Let's let's let's take advantage of it.
Speaker 3: The players in the NFL are around the same age
Speaker 3: of the players in Indiana last year.
Speaker 2: Hey, you ain't lying.
Speaker 4: And with all this going back and forth, guys getting
Speaker 4: contract and can go back. I don't know how old
Speaker 4: like you're gonna have twenty eight year olds rookies.
Speaker 2: And he played with twenty eight year olds that Indiana.
Speaker 3: Whatever it was, the average age was like twenty five
Speaker 3: in college.
Speaker 2: He put a little extra sauce on it. But it
Speaker 2: was old. It was old. But that'st rob g. It
Speaker 2: was like twenty five. It was like.
Speaker 4: Twenty five thirty one pick one. But you don't get
Speaker 4: my point. I do, no, no, no, I do.
Speaker 2: I just think.
Speaker 4: But again, just to me, I think they're gonna say,
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins, you take those lumps. If there are lumps
Speaker 4: to be had that you're talking about, you go out there,
Speaker 4: you set the tone, You show this young guy something.
Speaker 4: We can get these younger players on this roster, get
Speaker 4: them developed, slowly he's gonna I think he's gonna start
Speaker 4: probably halfway through the season, maybe a little early, maybe
Speaker 4: week six seven is but I think they just want
Speaker 4: to get to get him more acclimated.
Speaker 3: Make you know some of those how does he get
Speaker 3: more acclimated? Not playing seriously like.
Speaker 2: I because if you get smoked.
Speaker 4: There's a dude named David Carr, not even Derek Carr,
Speaker 4: who still has PTSD from getting smoked out there. Cam
Speaker 4: Ward is noay near as bad as he looked last year,
Speaker 4: but he was getting smoked. Sometimes when you know your
Speaker 4: team is horrific, rob and then sometimes your team is
Speaker 4: we're better than we look. And if it's horrific, I
Speaker 4: think they don't.
Speaker 3: Want Tom out terrific this year and next year he
Speaker 3: still shouldn't play, right how long you're gonna wait?
Speaker 4: Well now but six?
Speaker 3: But week six gonna be good? Is that like to
Speaker 3: explain how they got.
Speaker 2: The guys will have guys will have played.
Speaker 4: You would have been able to find out who's who
Speaker 4: if you need to switch if this started to.
Speaker 3: Say, you find out they're no good, they're still on good,
Speaker 3: so you delay his start.
Speaker 2: They may be starting his quarterback.
Speaker 4: People have historically not started off the bat rob We
Speaker 4: have so many we have examples of both.
Speaker 6: You.
Speaker 4: We got guys who got thrown in the fire. We
Speaker 4: got guys who have have had to wait a year
Speaker 4: or two like that. Especially historically, it was war common
Speaker 4: for you to come in and wait, not come in
Speaker 4: and try to be a savior of a horrific team. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not gonna be crazy if they make
Speaker 4: them wait a year. That's not gonna be like all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, some some we've never seen this before.
Speaker 3: This just sounds to me like there their convincement those
Speaker 3: is gonna be a bust. I'm gonna be on the record,
Speaker 3: That's where I'm at that he's gonna be a bust ultimately.
Speaker 3: And they don't have the confidence that this guy who
Speaker 3: took Indiana to a national championship and played some of
Speaker 3: the best college football quarterback and that we had seen
Speaker 3: right and and did the unthinkable should be that guy.
Speaker 3: It's almost like people were telling Joe Burrow, don't go
Speaker 3: to Cincinnati, what a bad franchise, you have no shot
Speaker 3: to win. They were trying to tell him he should
Speaker 3: pull an Eli Manning and his camp should should say
Speaker 3: not to I'm not going there. Don't draft me. I'm
Speaker 3: not going to Cincinnati. They had lost their last seven
Speaker 3: playoff games coming into the time that Joe Burrow showed
Speaker 3: up in Cincinnati. And guess what, he gets hurt his
Speaker 3: first year, right, because they're not that good.
Speaker 2: They don't protect him.
Speaker 3: He gets hurt, comes back his second year, and takes
Speaker 3: that franchise to the super Bowl. I'm sorry, that's what
Speaker 3: I want from my quarterback. Uh, why can't that?
Speaker 4: You just said he went out there and got hurt
Speaker 4: because they were terrible.
Speaker 2: You're telling me.
Speaker 4: You're telling me hurt because they're terrible. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You could get hurt at any time in football. I'm
Speaker 3: just you can't, baby p. I'm sorry. There's no perfect
Speaker 3: scenario to break a quarterback in and make him feel comfortable.
Speaker 2: Put the guy out there and let him play. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Listen, you know I had a sixteen team, you know,
Speaker 4: the Detroit I saw a guy coming there and and
Speaker 4: and you know, play through it wanted to be there
Speaker 4: and and and showed us, Okay, you know this guy's
Speaker 4: got some talent.
Speaker 2: He might be he might be good for us.
Speaker 4: So I've been there when they threw him in the fire,
Speaker 4: and and then you know, ultimately he improved, got to
Speaker 4: the postseason a couple of times. He left some on
Speaker 4: the table every now and again. But so I've seen
Speaker 4: it all both ways. I just I don't know for
Speaker 4: whatever reasons they believe, that's why they went and got
Speaker 4: this veteran Kirk Cousins to to be there for him,
Speaker 4: and so he didn't get his legs snapped out there.
Speaker 4: That's what Kirk. You get, You get snapped up and
Speaker 4: beat up. Not Mendoza. We got some hope. But we're
Speaker 4: the youngest. Heck, I think they got like, uh, they're
Speaker 4: the youngest roster in NFL.
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Speaker 2: No way, no how it looks like it.
Speaker 4: Maybe Deshaun Watson starting for the Browns. Where you're at
Speaker 4: rob when it comes to the quarterback or lack the
Speaker 4: up situation with the Browns.
Speaker 3: I think Shadoor has missed the golden opportunity. The Browns
Speaker 3: didn't have a quarterback really to Sean Watson despite his contract,
Speaker 3: I understand, like I hear the excuse of people saying, well, well,
Speaker 3: they can't cut him because it would be a massive
Speaker 3: cap hit. Okay, we got that. But if I have
Speaker 3: to pay the contract anyway, right, he could be the
Speaker 3: backup quarterback and sit there where I don't damage the
Speaker 3: salary cap. I mean, you know the cap hit, right,
Speaker 3: I gotta pay him anyway if my best chance to win,
Speaker 3: And I'm Todd Monkin and I'm trying to be a
Speaker 3: head coach in the NFL, and my best opportunity to
Speaker 3: win is by playing Shador Sandals, who's making way less money.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense to start to Sean Watson.
Speaker 2: Just because of the salary.
Speaker 3: I have to pay it regardless, So I could pay it.
Speaker 3: Play Shador Sanders because he's the best quarterback and win
Speaker 3: some games and maybe solidify another year as a head
Speaker 3: coach in the NFL, or get another contract.
Speaker 2: If I'm Todd Monkin, I can't. I don't believe it.
Speaker 2: To me.
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders hasn't done enough last year or this year
Speaker 3: for anybody to buy into him. There's no bonus playing
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 2: He has.
Speaker 3: He's been bad since he came from Houston right he
Speaker 3: was injured. Every strike is against Sean Watson. Every plus
Speaker 3: is for Schador Sanders and Todd Monkin and the brown
Speaker 3: still don't want to make him the starting quarterback. What
Speaker 3: does that tell you? It tells you he hasn't done
Speaker 3: enough to convince people in that organization that he's a
Speaker 3: starting quarterback in the NFL. Because the Browns are about
Speaker 3: as low as you get. Yeah, I mean you get
Speaker 3: Does that make sense to listen, I said it. You
Speaker 3: and I have talked about it. I understand it. But
Speaker 3: you could still place Shador if you think he's better.
Speaker 3: And I think I pay money anyway. I think Shador
Speaker 3: will play. I think we did a similar Listen, there's
Speaker 3: a reason why.
Speaker 2: I start him?
Speaker 4: No, why not start I don't. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 4: When you're a new coach, you got a guy who's
Speaker 4: been in it. This will be year two for Shador
Speaker 4: and obviously if he let's assume let's say he was
Speaker 4: a starter, this will be his first, you know, year
Speaker 4: as a full time starter if that was the case.
Speaker 4: But it's not right now. And I think when you're
Speaker 4: looking at Deshaun Watson, it's a safer picking that. Okay, Well,
Speaker 4: he's a veteran. He knows he didn't play, he got
Speaker 4: hurt last year, right, But he's been in the league
Speaker 4: now for DAK in a decade, So I'm saying, Okay,
Speaker 4: he's a veteran. He he you know, he knows the
Speaker 4: ins and out better to be a pro than than
Speaker 4: Shador does. And I think the money does I think
Speaker 4: you're understating or under selling the money a little bit
Speaker 4: more than I would.
Speaker 2: I think that matters.
Speaker 4: Because yes, I have to pay him, because I'm saying,
Speaker 4: if I have to pay him, then I might.
Speaker 2: As well get something out of him. No, no, it's
Speaker 2: not nice.
Speaker 3: He can't help you win, but especially that makes you
Speaker 3: have a new coach whose career is.
Speaker 2: On the line. Do you do you?
Speaker 4: But this is where Chardeur I agree that he hasn't
Speaker 4: made a massive separation between the two. I'm completely in
Speaker 4: agreement with that. It's not as if chadors come out
Speaker 4: and you know, look like uh uh prime Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 4: or something where you're like, clearly, that's our guy. I
Speaker 4: think if he's been playing coach, and all the reports
Speaker 4: of coming out of training camp was that Shadur was
Speaker 4: playing better, he had better hired a completion percentage, he
Speaker 4: hadn't thrown an interception at all during training camp. So
Speaker 4: the that's a slight gap in the game, right, slightly
Speaker 4: and better played during training camp for Shador. But I
Speaker 4: mentioned this the other day to you, it's gonna be
Speaker 4: have to be a larger separation gap in my opinion
Speaker 4: because if that if not, well, I'm gonna roll with
Speaker 4: the guy who's a veteran, and we owe the money anyway,
Speaker 4: give him a look, just give them one more chance.
Speaker 4: That's what I think they would do. You do, Calvin,
Speaker 4: I am in favor of starting to George. If he
Speaker 4: goes out there and flames out, at least I can say, man,
Speaker 4: look we gave you last year. It was a difficult situation.
Speaker 4: We're starting three four different quarterbacks. Last year it was
Speaker 4: a mess. I'll give you that. I will concede that
Speaker 4: we saw some things we didn't like this. We're gonna
Speaker 4: work on that. You had a couple of throws as well.
Speaker 4: Let's give you a chance this year, new coast. Let's
Speaker 4: start this thing. He's got a new system. Let's roll it.
Speaker 4: That's all I would prefer to do, because for me, Rob,
Speaker 4: I know what I have with with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 2: See here, here's where.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna push back, and I don't I don't buy
Speaker 3: your argument at all. If I'm Todd Monkin, all right,
Speaker 3: like the NFL stands for not for long, Okay, so
Speaker 3: you're gonna put it in. Somebody will say, what what
Speaker 3: kind of coature you put in? A broken down Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 3: who hasn't played well since he stepped into Cleveland. You
Speaker 3: have this everybody's ran and raving about Shador Sanders and
Speaker 3: he's got the eight factor and he's selling the most
Speaker 3: jerseys in the NFL, and everybody's all excited in the
Speaker 3: fan base wants them. And you don't play him, okay,
Speaker 3: And but you play the guy who you have to
Speaker 3: pay regardless whether he plays or not. The idea of
Speaker 3: getting something out of him doesn't make any sense to
Speaker 3: me if you believe you have a guy in Shador
Speaker 3: Sanders who can be a quarterback, who can be.
Speaker 2: The same thing. I bring up the same argument all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 3: And Pete Carroll in Seattle where they have Matt Flynn
Speaker 3: in place, they went and they got him from Green Bay.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yes, we finally got a quarterback. And
Speaker 3: this Russell Wilson, who I believe Rob g correct me
Speaker 3: was a fourth round pick, right third or fourth?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Third, okay, third round pick. When Russell Wilson shows up
Speaker 3: and they immediately go, oh no, our quarterback is right.
Speaker 2: This is this guy right here. It's this guy. And
Speaker 2: that started the turnaround.
Speaker 3: And my point is, if Shador has anything, anything that
Speaker 3: you can build on, and you're Todd Monkin.
Speaker 2: Okay, you noticed, Kevin. I'll give you one other example.
Speaker 3: Like a TV being in the TV business, the coach
Speaker 3: or the news director isn't going to mess around with
Speaker 3: Rob Parker because I've already been there.
Speaker 2: You know what you get from him.
Speaker 3: Kelvin Washington is the new hotshot reporter that I brought
Speaker 3: in when I.
Speaker 2: Took over the news division.
Speaker 3: If we get better numbers, I'm gonna get credit for
Speaker 3: Kelvin because I put him in place. If I go
Speaker 3: back to DeShawn watching, I don't get anything for that.
Speaker 3: If I can identify Shador Saying as the next quarterback
Speaker 3: of the Browns, I'm gonna cement myself there in the
Speaker 3: organization because I made the gutsy move. I didn't play
Speaker 3: the quarterback who had the bigger contract. I played the
Speaker 3: quarterback with the best talent. And that's what I'm trying
Speaker 3: to that is that he doesn't have the talent. That's
Speaker 3: why they're not picking him.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm listen.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna sit up there and act like he's
Speaker 4: coming in there looking like you know, peaking when Cam
Speaker 4: Newton was, you know, just the physical specimen coming in and.
Speaker 2: I, oh, shoot, look at this guy.
Speaker 3: Even when we see Cam Newton at the super Bowl,
Speaker 3: he's a special.
Speaker 4: You can't be walking around here six six chisel up
Speaker 4: still looking all handsome and tall and no, no, no,
Speaker 4: he's got to relax. But here's where I'll counter your point,
Speaker 4: Rob when you say they're not for long.
Speaker 2: So let me start the guy.
Speaker 4: I think the safety valve is Schauduur in this case,
Speaker 4: and that you roll out to Seawan. And if he
Speaker 4: looks like DeShawn meaning man, you know, not horror, but
Speaker 4: this e you can and then you can say hold on,
Speaker 4: hold on, hold on, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait wait,
Speaker 4: I can go to Shador where there's optimism, still a
Speaker 4: little bit, there's some hope, there's some maybe in this
Speaker 4: there's some ooh, we'll have to wait and see. Maybe
Speaker 4: he gets better, maybe he's improved. So if you're saying,
Speaker 4: as a coach, I'm looking at the opposite. If I
Speaker 4: start with your door and he comes out bad and
Speaker 4: it's like, well we gotta go to DeShawn, then it's
Speaker 4: a rap. Not that you're gonna get fired, but meaning
Speaker 4: the optimism and hope is gone. If I had to
Speaker 4: go to.
Speaker 3: The Sean coach, and you go with your door and
Speaker 3: they start playing better because he plays he had some
Speaker 3: quarterback savvy and and make some throws and you win games.
Speaker 4: It's exact cause I get to go, all right, Deshaun
Speaker 4: is looking at you know's and but whoo, I got
Speaker 4: to wait. If a fan, you're gonna wait till we
Speaker 4: can put your door. Let's see, he's gonna get better.
Speaker 4: He's gonna improve. He's got another year under his belt,
Speaker 4: a new system, and I can prolong that hope and
Speaker 4: finally get him out there. If I'm a coach and say,
Speaker 4: now here is my game plan was to let him
Speaker 4: get better, to let him grow, and now he's gonna
Speaker 4: roll out to me, that's the opposite. I'm rolling that
Speaker 4: out off the bet because again I'm with you, I
Speaker 4: do agree. I don't think she Doer's coming out like Gangbuster,
Speaker 4: where it's obvious that he has to be the starter.
Speaker 4: I think from just some only based off reports we
Speaker 4: ain in Cleveland, is that he's not.
Speaker 2: Playing better make any sense.
Speaker 3: It tells you every opportunity should be for the young
Speaker 3: guy with the upside. To Shaun Watson is not the
Speaker 3: young guy with the upside and the idea that he's
Speaker 3: that they still would rather go over him tells you
Speaker 3: that your door doesn't have it. I've been covering the
Speaker 3: NFL since nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 4: If I'm saying the bias is the damn Marino that
Speaker 4: I'm completely an agree. But I got to roll somebody
Speaker 4: out there for seventeen weeks and have some optimism and
Speaker 4: get my even my own players, let alone the crowd
Speaker 4: the fans. I gotta give my players something to believe it,
Speaker 4: and I think she Doer can offer that more than
Speaker 4: de Shaun.
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Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 5: Oh Man, I'm good. I'm here, Rob. I watched you
Speaker 5: on this rant yesterday. Man, it was so funny about
Speaker 5: the one about the one about Shad And you know
Speaker 5: it's funny because I was up in Cleveland a couple
Speaker 5: of weeks ago and I was at practice, and you know,
Speaker 5: I saw some really good throws from him, you know,
Speaker 5: maybe some of the best throws that I had seen
Speaker 5: from him. And look, I jump online. I'm like, hey, no,
Speaker 5: it's a small sample size, blah blah blah. But these
Speaker 5: are two really good throws. But I think the points
Speaker 5: that the points that you were making though, are so true,
Speaker 5: Like people just don't understand, like the coach making a
Speaker 5: damn decision to please the fans, like they're worried about
Speaker 5: their job. Right was too, and all these people in
Speaker 5: some of these talking hits, like I'm surprised quite Franklyn,
Speaker 5: I'll just say it, like even a guy like Lewis Riddick,
Speaker 5: like I was surprised to hear him come out and
Speaker 5: say this stuff because he, more than anybody else, knows
Speaker 5: what it's like inside of you know, the offices, right
Speaker 5: the front office. Everybody's trying to keep their damn job.
Speaker 5: And if they think a guy's going to give them
Speaker 5: a chance to win, you better believe they're gonna be
Speaker 5: on the field.
Speaker 2: Robert, thank you.
Speaker 3: And I keep telling people, you stop with the conspiracies.
Speaker 3: Oh they don't want him to this, and they're trying
Speaker 3: to keep them in it. I'm like, if a guy
Speaker 3: can play, they're going to put them out there? Are
Speaker 3: you kidding? And you know this, you played in the
Speaker 3: National Football League. All the players on the field know
Speaker 3: who deserves to play or not, Robert, don't they They know?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, Robert, the guys definitely know. And but what
Speaker 5: you said was so true, Like you can't take and
Speaker 5: I wasn't trying to do it, but you can't take
Speaker 5: a couple of clips on Twitter and say, well, this
Speaker 5: guy definitely deserves a job. The guys that are doing
Speaker 5: the evaluation, they're with them every day, like you said,
Speaker 5: the guys in the locker room, they know we should play.
Speaker 2: Who will to play? To you there, Robert, I mean,
Speaker 2: who's would you start?
Speaker 4: I don't think they have the most amazing back situation
Speaker 4: ei of the way, but who would you start? I'm
Speaker 4: going to do her because I want to see if
Speaker 4: there's any any upside at all before I go back
Speaker 4: to what I know.
Speaker 2: Watson, that's me. Where are you?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well they're going to start him this weekend, I know,
Speaker 5: but at the beginning of the season, I just I
Speaker 5: can't answer that yet. Like Dashawn looked really he looked
Speaker 5: really stiff. And I look, he hasn't played since twenty
Speaker 5: four right, like, and I just I think he was
Speaker 5: it looked like he was just even little throws in
Speaker 5: that game. Last week. You know, I saw some clips
Speaker 5: again from practice yesterday that looked much better from both
Speaker 5: of them, right, and really good downfield, tight window throws.
Speaker 5: But I can't say automatically that I would go with
Speaker 5: Shadur because ultimately it is about winning games, and I
Speaker 5: know that you want to see what you have for
Speaker 5: the future. But if you don't think that guy is
Speaker 5: really capable of winning you games, don't I don't think.
Speaker 5: I don't think you do it.
Speaker 3: Automatically, no doubt, Robert Smith is I guess here own
Speaker 3: a Dan Patrick Sheldy, a couple filling in.
Speaker 2: For Dan and the Dan Nets. Let's get to the
Speaker 2: NIL and the college sports where we are because I don't.
Speaker 3: Believe that, Rob. I want to hear from you and
Speaker 3: h seven forty million dollars rosters right, six million higher
Speaker 3: than the first NFL salary cap in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3: And Robert, it's not amateur college sports anymore. It's professional sports,
Speaker 3: isn't it.
Speaker 5: But it's professional sports without rules, that's the crazy part, right,
Speaker 5: And the rules just get reinvented. It seems like every
Speaker 5: other week right now, Soresby, I know it's a different
Speaker 5: situation because you know, the gambling was involved. But you know,
Speaker 5: you get a judge in Lubbock, you know, getting some
Speaker 5: you know, temporary restraining order or you know, injunction, whatever
Speaker 5: the case may be, just changing things like crazy. And
Speaker 5: then you get the ruling in Colorado over five years.
Speaker 5: And then you get the ruling which is really surprising
Speaker 5: out of Louisiana. And now this only applies, I guess
Speaker 5: to these twelve or sixteen players. I can't remember which,
Speaker 5: if it's twelve or sixteen, right, but these guys, some
Speaker 5: of these guys are in camp and you're saying that
Speaker 5: they're eligible to go back and play. Now, this is
Speaker 5: one of those cases like to me, everybody hates the
Speaker 5: NC double A and they always want to target the
Speaker 5: NC double A. But this is really interesting.
Speaker 2: Rob.
Speaker 5: Like when I was when I was back when when
Speaker 5: I was at ESPN and I was interviewing and you know,
Speaker 5: I was, I was up up up at Michigan with
Speaker 5: rich Rod and he pulls out like an NC double
Speaker 5: A book and he's like, you know what, I gotta
Speaker 5: be honest. He's like, we're the reason this thing is
Speaker 5: that thick, right, Like he's looking at the rule book
Speaker 5: like the reason is because coaches want to cheat, the
Speaker 5: everybody wants to blame the NC double A. Nobody ever
Speaker 5: wanted to blame the coaches and the presidents from you know,
Speaker 5: violating the rules and coming up with a bunch of
Speaker 5: complicated rules that the NC double A had to try
Speaker 5: to force. Now we have a bunch, We just have
Speaker 5: a wild west man. We get a bunch of rulings
Speaker 5: and nobody knows what's next, and it's just okay, well,
Speaker 5: you know, I guess we're just gonna have to find
Speaker 5: a way to spend more money. It's just it's crazy, man.
Speaker 5: I don't know where this thing ends. They have to
Speaker 5: get some sort of system that holds everybody accountable.
Speaker 4: Well, I got to ask you something else about this,
Speaker 4: but quickly you did bring up you brought up Michigan
Speaker 4: in it, and it took everything I had to be
Speaker 4: nice to you, Robert, because when I was a kid,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm born and raised ann Arbor and used
Speaker 4: to torture us when you we run out Ohio State.
Speaker 2: And I don't appreciate I was.
Speaker 5: One and I was oh one and one against michiganant
Speaker 5: towards anybody in Maze and blue eyes.
Speaker 2: Did you listen, I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 4: Okay, when I got to go against you and see
Speaker 4: you run it out there, dang it, I still got
Speaker 4: memories of that.
Speaker 2: I want to go here with you. We just talked
Speaker 2: about this.
Speaker 4: The idea that you look, you meant played at Ohio State,
Speaker 4: then you become a pro what about these pro sign
Speaker 4: of contracts and then say never mind, let me go
Speaker 4: back to college. Now, what do you make of this
Speaker 4: where they're allowing this new Uh? This the judge that
Speaker 4: allowed this for these guys that go back.
Speaker 2: What do you make of that? Yeah?
Speaker 5: That was that was the rule that I was, you know,
Speaker 5: referring to the ruling I was referring to in Louisiana.
Speaker 5: That's the one right right, you got you got, you
Speaker 5: got some of these guys in camp. Uh you know that,
Speaker 5: the even guys that are making plays, you know, like
Speaker 5: the what's the team private? Is the one down with
Speaker 5: the bucks? He need a couple of sex in the game.
Speaker 4: Now he's gonna let me go quarterback some college quarterbacks
Speaker 4: and yeah, not only be eligible to come back, but
Speaker 4: to be you know, in the damn portal.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing. Seasons a week and a half away,
Speaker 5: right like you? And look, I know you can play
Speaker 5: with the numbers a little bit. You still have one
Speaker 5: hundred and five man roster rules, so you can cut
Speaker 5: some you know, walk ons or you know, some lower
Speaker 5: level guys, but do you have the money to sign them,
Speaker 5: and you know, do you want to mess with locker
Speaker 5: room chemistry? There are a lot of issues there, but
Speaker 5: you know, it depends on which program you are, right, Like,
Speaker 5: if you're a program, you know, it's funny the unnamed
Speaker 5: sources inside of the Big twelve I heard this, like,
Speaker 5: damn right, we need a couple more players, Like, let's
Speaker 5: just open it wide. Let's make it wide open because
Speaker 5: they want to add some people. But they got to
Speaker 5: have these rules. They can't have guys signing contracts because
Speaker 5: I guess that rule still exists.
Speaker 3: Right, Like Robert, I'll say this though, here's why I
Speaker 3: don't have an issue with it. They're making money in college.
Speaker 3: It's not amateur anymore. So they're making millions of dollars
Speaker 3: in college. And you know this, if you're not on
Speaker 3: an NFL roster player, you know, to start the season,
Speaker 3: you haven't made it to the NFL.
Speaker 2: You're not an NFL player.
Speaker 3: You're if you could even look at the headline on
Speaker 3: the story and it said NFL training camp x NFL
Speaker 3: training camp players, because you're not an NFL.
Speaker 2: Player until you make the league. They start with the NFL,
Speaker 2: but it's not the NF. You're not make the team.
Speaker 2: You're not you're not an NFL. A lot of guys
Speaker 2: have a couple of coffee in the three role.
Speaker 5: You take the chance, you take the chance you leave
Speaker 5: the school, you make the school make all kinds of
Speaker 5: decisions about, well, we need to sign this guy because
Speaker 5: this guy is going to the pros. Now you're like, oh,
Speaker 5: well I didn't make it, so I want to go
Speaker 5: back too, bad boy, Robert, that's a chance if you're
Speaker 5: leaving early. Especially, Look, if you get your four or five,
Speaker 5: you get your five years or four years of eligibility
Speaker 5: in your five years, you had your chance. Like, how
Speaker 5: long are those guys supposed to be able to go back?
Speaker 2: Wait a minute.
Speaker 3: We just saw Indiana win a national championship with the
Speaker 3: average age of twenty five or six, twenty four, I'm.
Speaker 2: In to college. There were twenty eight year olds out there.
Speaker 3: Robert and everybody celebrated Indiana like this was the old days?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding? Twenty eight?
Speaker 5: That was? That was first of all. I mean, let's
Speaker 5: talk about that Indiana winning a national championship in football.
Speaker 5: It's crazy, right, that's insanity right there. But it wasn't
Speaker 5: with a bunch of ineligible players that had turned pro
Speaker 5: and then come back. That's to me, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 5: That's got to be clearly defined and that's a no
Speaker 5: for me. Once it got pro, that's it, man, Because
Speaker 5: you know, you got all these high school kids coming up.
Speaker 5: Where are they? Where are they supposed to go? Are
Speaker 5: they supposed to be competing against twenty eight year old
Speaker 5: guys who washed out in the league?
Speaker 2: Right? You guys? Are the players going back to college?
Speaker 4: Robert Rob Parker the owner, than the teacher, the professors.
Speaker 3: But but, but, but this is the problem. The the
Speaker 3: NCAA didn't want them to have a union, to unionize
Speaker 3: because you were talking about with no rules.
Speaker 2: Robert had the.
Speaker 3: NCAA put in a in place or or took over
Speaker 3: the idea of playing play or some go of money.
Speaker 3: They didn't want to do it, so they made it
Speaker 3: a wow wow West. There's no collective bargaining. So there
Speaker 3: are no rules, and that's why we have the mess
Speaker 3: that we have. Would you agree with that that you
Speaker 3: need a collective boggaining agreement.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no question you need a collective barry agreeing.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing that I go back to this
Speaker 5: argument about the NC DOUBLEA. Like people want to say
Speaker 5: they want to talk about the NC DOUBLEA, but they
Speaker 5: don't want to talk about their own schools and their
Speaker 5: own presidents and their own coaches. But make no mistake
Speaker 5: about it, the NC double A is trying to make
Speaker 5: rules at the behest from all those coaches and those
Speaker 5: presidents and those athletic directors. They're the ones that want
Speaker 5: those restrictions and they know they need those restrictions. Just
Speaker 5: to my point about rich Rodriguez saying, we're the reason
Speaker 5: that those rule books are so complicated. But you do
Speaker 5: need some sort of system in place. But now if
Speaker 5: they're employees, now it's work comp issue. Like there are
Speaker 5: so many issues that this brings about that people haven't
Speaker 5: even considered when they're actually employees of the university. But
Speaker 5: the good thing about that for the universities and for
Speaker 5: these coaches is you get some certainty because the contracts
Speaker 5: are two way, and the players can't just say well,
Speaker 5: I'm going to sign here this year and then go
Speaker 5: somewhere else next year. That's been the real disastrous. Not
Speaker 5: just nil, but it's a portal every year, and multiple portals.
Speaker 2: All right, real quick before, as Robert, real quick, we're
Speaker 2: up against it.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to ask you, since we had you
Speaker 4: the idea of fans voting in the Heisman Trophy for
Speaker 4: the award.
Speaker 2: Where are you in that? It's terrible and.
Speaker 5: Such a bad idea it's barely worth discussing. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's just an awful idea.
Speaker 3: And Robert, everything is for sale, everything is a gimmick.
Speaker 2: Is so bad, man, what they've done to college football.
Speaker 3: And as a guy who excelled was a great player
Speaker 3: in college football, you don't even recognize this game, do you.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it is so different, man. It's it's
Speaker 5: interesting you say that because when Ohio State won the
Speaker 5: national championship a couple of years ago. You know, my
Speaker 5: initial reaction was, you know, I'm always happy when Ohio
Speaker 5: State wins.
Speaker 2: Sure, but it just.
Speaker 5: It just felt different, man, It just it felt completely different.
Speaker 5: And like you know, some people will say, whatever aunch
Speaker 5: or you know, yeah, but like to me, like back
Speaker 5: back in my day, like we all made the choice. Man,
Speaker 5: we made the choice to go play at the same school, right,
Speaker 5: And it was just and it was just so different.
Speaker 5: And people joked about this stuff all the time.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Once I got to the league, it was like, oh, man,
Speaker 5: we know you took a pay cut to come to
Speaker 5: come into the league. Like, hey, I'm going to tell
Speaker 5: you this, honestly, I know we don't have a lot
Speaker 5: of time. I got my first car five months before
Speaker 5: I got drafted. It broke three months before I got drafted. Nope,
Speaker 5: Joe eighty five Cutlass Sierra in nineteen ninety three, swear.
Speaker 5: And you know we used to get we used to
Speaker 5: collect the tickets because the tickets for the games, because
Speaker 5: they had free singles with cheese from Wendy's for free
Speaker 5: singles from Wendy's. So we would collect those tickets.
Speaker 2: And you know what, I love that part of the show.
Speaker 5: But I'm happy for the guys today. But it's it's unrecognized.
Speaker 4: You missed today. Man, you would have been in a
Speaker 4: g wagon. Robert, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: We got to go.
Speaker 3: But this is this is what you sounded like on
Speaker 3: radio today, here we go, No damn, you don't mind.
Speaker 4: I'll I'll just end with go bars there, all right,
Speaker 4: appreciate it, Thank you,