WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, September 7 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:08.719 It is Monday, September seven. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:15.160 Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:23.200 former Triple Crown winner J. P. Chad Rick. I'm not 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.560 sure of what this Triple Crown is, Moore, but I'll 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:30.040 take it. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.240 We've got Pete Briscoe, Tony Boselli, the final cut to 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.080 fifty three on Saturday, and plenty of youth to be 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.000 sird for the Jags this year. And tonight We're gonna 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.480 pick the schedule like we always do the show before 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.839 the regular season, and I'm sure Tony we'll have the 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.159 Jags going at least eleven and five and into the 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.960 playoffs and deep into the postseason. We'll go around the 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:55.560 National Football League as well. Gentlemen, Good afternoon, Pete down 0:00:55.560 --> 0:01:00.320 in South Florida. What's up? Uh? Does Tony have any 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.640 locks for the year so far? This week, for the season? 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:10.680 Anything week to start? Give me something, you need something, 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.960 It's it's game week. I'm not ready yet. Maybe by 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.760 the end of the show I'll have a lock for everybody, 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:18.600 but I'm right now I'm kind of waiting I gotta 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.760 feel out the show and kind of see where we go. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.800 I think I might have a lot how it works 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.720 on the end of the show. Yeah, Pete, you gotta 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.600 you have a luck by the end of the show, 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.800 I'm gonna have a lock. That's pretty rare. I mean 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.720 the Tony locks come weekly, we get those all the time. 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.120 The Pete lock, that's when you know he means business. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.400 You locked down the playoffs last year and Week four 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.120 he didn't work out that way. Do you think the lot, 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.160 like the law, your lock could have something to do 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.200 with like you're not doing the show anymore. That'd be 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:57.360 a good luck? Oh wow? How bad with the show? 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.960 If I was just you and j Pemon, who would 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:08.720 you would pick on you? Won't you listen? Well? You 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:13.880 should be. Um, Yeah, I don't think like we've been 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.239 picking on each other is very nice, Pete. I think 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.840 JP and I are nicer human beings than you, so 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.560 we're probably kind to each other. You're the one who 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:26.600 picks hell. Would I be scared of Tony? By the way, 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.359 what is that about? No? Way, man, those glasses you 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:36.920 got on today? No, these areas I've had same looks 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.440 differently here. Maybe just for far away. You're looking more 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:45.920 like Mr Magoon in me. Wow, maybe you should have 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:51.560 yours check Pete. I don't know. I don't know. By 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:55.040 the way, I'm an old guy. I'm an old guy. 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.840 Tony's an old guy. Plus you got a add on 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.959 twenty five years for every injury he's had, so he's 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.360 an old guy. JP is pretty old. But you know 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:09.880 who's not old? Nobody on the rosters old. Amazing, that's right. 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.200 Jaguars m one of the most amazing in all of 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.320 sports when it comes to what they've done. It's a 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:21.760 great to the Final fifty three where the Jaguars they 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.800 have more young young players on their roster than anybody 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.920 I think. And I haven't done the work on it. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.880 Like the Dolphins cleedhouse and started all over, but they 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:34.600 weren't this young. You make it sound like amazing, like 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:40.720 in a good way. That's amazing, No, amazingly bad. How's that? Well? 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.960 I actually, Tony, I don't think it's that bad a thing. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:45.880 I'm gonna be on a minority on that one. I 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.160 don't think it's that bad thing. Let's let's get to 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.600 the numbers of it, guys, real quick before we move 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.200 on here sixteen rookies on the roster, eight second year 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:59.160 players on the roster, six third year players. That's thirty 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.680 of the fifth three that have played two seasons of 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.080 football or less in the National Football League. Let's hear 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.480 from g M. J. Coldwell. He says, give them a chance. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.720 Don't count this team out yet, and and I think 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.720 they'll tie you the same thing. We we can't afford 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.640 a rebuilding year and and that's not our mindset. Our 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.400 mindset is to put um the best team out there 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.520 to play, to compete in the win. And um, we 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:29.480 feel like these guys, the guys in this locker room, Um, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.080 you know, nobody has seen him play together, nobody has 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.920 seen him play a game. So, like I said, we're 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.280 gonna know where we measure up. We played a very 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.520 talented uh Indianapolis Colts on Week one and then we 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.480 follow up with a final four team with the Tennessee Titans. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.520 So we'll know pretty pretty quick where we measure up 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.640 with some of the top teams in the league. Yes 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.880 they will. Tony, Um, you know Mr Khan and Caldwell 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.880 said that Mr Khan gave them the directive of hey, 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.599 put the best team on the field and get the 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.159 salary cap in order. Those are those are two tough, 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:05.480 tough things to do together at the same time. Well, 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:07.320 I mean the bottom lines, you want to put the 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:08.880 best team on the field, like they're trying to win 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.160 a football game and win and try to win the conference. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.960 And Dave's right, nobody knows what this team is because 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.880 we haven't seen this team play together. There's no preseason. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.400 It's a young team. You mentioned all the new guys, 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.359 sixteen of him a rookies, never even played a snap 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.600 in the NFL, and you're gonna count on a number 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.960 of those guys UM to help you win. I like, 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.960 I appreciate the confidence that Dave has. I appreciate the 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.800 positive attitude he has. I think that's what you have 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.720 to do UM when you're in a leadership position where 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.080 he sits. But I think as you look at it 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:41.840 and you're realistic about UM and you just look at history, 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.800 there's a reason teams don't go with a bunch of rookies, 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.120 and there's a reason that like coaches and gems in 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.920 the past haven't counted on a bunch of rookies help 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.040 them win championships. And because it doesn't happen. Rookies take, 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.520 Rookies make mistakes, they learn on the fly. Um, it's 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.760 hard to count on those guys, and especially if you're 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.279 counting on a bunch of them, because they can be 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:07.520 inconsistent and consistent player doesn't lead to winning football a 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.080 lot of times. So, um, history telling you it's gonna 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.400 be a tough sled for them based on you know, 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.440 the number of young players are going to be counting on. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.159 But Dave's right, Look let's givehim a chance. Let's see 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.840 what they can do. Um. I still say the biggest, uh, 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:22.800 you know, the biggest factor in this is the second 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.400 year player named Gardner minshew, how he plays um like 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.000 so much of like so many different teams you know, 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.440 who kind of live and die by the quarterbacks. That's 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.960 how this league is nowadays. Um, you either have to 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.640 be really really good everywhere else and have a guy 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.280 at that position who's you know, can kind of manage 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.040 the club, or you have to be really good at 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.839 that position. And uh, I don't think the Jags are 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:46.960 really really good around him. I think they're really really 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.719 young and they have some exciting players. Um, so Gardner's 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.760 gonna be He's have to have played top end football. 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.440 For this team to win football games, it's always about 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.880 the quarterback position. And then when you're really younging, it's 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.240 even more so. Who who's the most experienced guy on it? Team? 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.400 Is it? If? Is that? Is that? Am I wrong 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.240 about that? Is it? Avery Jones has been at it. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:14.800 This is his eighth year. Ifford's right up there too. Yeah, 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.760 so's those three guys? N Well, have seven? I think 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:24.320 that's right, but nobody double digits usually have one or 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.559 two of those guys. Don't you so? Young? Football? T Pete, 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.840 I mean listen, look at the I mean, go through 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.560 the guys who're gonna start your quarterbacks? The second year player, 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:38.040 you're right, tackles a second year player. You're gonna have 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.960 running back by committee, which is gonna be rookies in 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.760 you know, a rookie and one seventh and one seventh 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:50.000 round guy, seventh year guy, seventh year Chris Stops. Everyone 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:54.120 else is super young. Your receivers that you know, DJ Chark, 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:59.360 third year guy, so no, uh, second your rookie rookie 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:05.360 you know, just John rookie. Yeah. John. On the other side, 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.600 Josh Allen, second year player. You know you're counting on 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.680 the uh chase chase on the rookie to make productive 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.960 Timelton the rookie, Hamilton the rookie. I mean, you're looking 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.080 at Tavin Bryant, You're counting on to be a big 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.720 player at three technique and he's coming off an injury, 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.240 bone bruise. He's a third year player, gonna start a 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:29.680 rookie safety? Uh, you know, rookie corner. I mean it's like, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.160 it's it's crazy you start. What did I say? Wait? 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.880 What did I say last week that seven rookies could start? 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.960 And you you shot me down? I still think seven 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.520 rookies are gonna start. Well, you got Daniel Thomas will start, right, 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:48.080 isn't That's one? Today was talking about Josh Jones a 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:52.920 lot at safety. Thought John Jones and safety. It sounds like, well, 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.960 Doug Broon today talked up Josh Jones a lot of 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.880 this press conference. I'll say that, so then you won't 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:03.600 have a rookie at safety then, so it doesn't matter 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.240 whether it's five. You could eventually you in a week, 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.320 a couple of weeks you could. But pe I get 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.920 I'm not gonna quibble with you about whether it's five 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:14.679 six or seven. The bottom line is you're gonna have 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.520 first and second year players all over the field that 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.360 you're counting on, and none bigger than the rookie quarterback, 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.720 I mean, the second year quarterback and Gardner Minshew. I mean, 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.560 it is shocking how young they they have become and 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.280 like and how much they're going to count on these 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.240 young guys to figure out a way when you had 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.480 no off season, basically no training camp. You know, you 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.080 have no look really of what they are going to 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.199 be together in real situations. And you're gonna roll out 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.240 there on Sunday against a veteran team led by a 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:50.160 veteran quarterback um and most people are telling are projecting 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:54.040 probably the best team in their division. Well, and and uh, 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.200 here's the other thing. They got a lot of cap 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.360 a lot of cap room, and a lot of draft picks, 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:02.840 so they got that going for Like, I'm gonna take 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.200 a different angle there because I'm actually tired of hearing 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:09.000 about that because who cares number one as we sit 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:13.520 here today. But if I'm a fan also, I'm thinking, like, great, 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.439 what are you gonna do with that cap room? And 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.040 what are you gonna do with those draft picks? Because 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:21.720 having them doesn't mean anything like having just a bunch 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.400 of picks and a bunch of cap room doesn't. There's 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:29.120 not a direct correlation to success. Right, you got draft 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.319 the right guys? Did they draft the right guy and 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.960 Jalen Ramsey, Well, it depends he's not on this team 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:41.240 anymore and the picks back. Okay, we're not playing fantasy 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.480 football or like some card game like, hey, I got 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.800 this guy to get three extra guys for this. You 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.280 said it last week, Tony, you said better to go 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:53.400 in six and ten going one, and I said that. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.520 But my point I said that I'm not gonna step 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.840 back from that. My point is if I'm sitting here 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.079 as an fan listening like, oh great we have draft 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:07.640 picks and and uh and sary cap, I don't care. Well, okay, 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.880 what was the alternative you don't keep the young guys. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.320 Let's just say what moves did they make that they 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:17.560 should have kept an older player and let him play. Okay, 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.920 you know, well, I'm I'm I want to let's make sure. 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.280 I want to make sure we're talking about too, because 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.240 there's really two different things. For me. Um, I don't 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.800 think like Dave or Doug made any moves that I'm 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.760 looking at going that makes no sense. I just think 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.800 they didn't have a bunch of good veterans on this team. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.720 They had no choice, Like there wasn't any and there's 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.720 no one about cut where I sat there and looked like, 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.000 why I can't believe they got rid of him and 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:47.040 kept this guy. There wasn't one. So that's one. But 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.040 I'll be honest, that's pretty much the way it was 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:53.000 around the league. To Tony, there were a few. There 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:54.599 were a few like Sidney Jones, who is now on 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.600 the Tag Wires practice squad, was let go by the 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.560 Eagles and he was a second round pick and some 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.839 people were surprise at that, But then yet others he said, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:03.720 he has it stayed on the field. He hasn't been 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.839 heard a bunch, So it really wasn't That's right. I 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:07.520 don't think there were a lot of surprise you know, 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.160 back when you were playing, if there were a lot 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.439 of surprise cuts on the final cutdown, it's not the 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.720 way it is anymore. Even in a non COVID season, 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.880 they kind of clean out the stuff before you get 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:22.360 to that cutdown. Yeah, so it's just interesting. Uh, it's 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:26.480 gonna be a young team. But as you and we 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.400 get if you think about it, Pete, we just talked 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.559 about how young they're going to be, and the JP 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:35.440 gave the number thirty guys, but you know, three years 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:40.400 or three years or less experience, um, sixteen of those rookies, 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.400 and at the same breath we're saying, but no one 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.320 got cut that we're surprised. So basically this was a 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.240 pretty bad Like if you sixteen rookies make it not 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.600 a real good roster going in, going into the draft 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:55.920 or in the camp. But you're let's go back to 0:12:55.960 --> 0:13:00.600 your yes, yes, that means it's not a good roster. 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.280 But in your rookie season, you were one of the 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.480 better players on that team. You were rookie, but you 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.200 were one of the better players. You had a couple 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.480 other guys that were among the better, But Bryan DeMarco 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.640 wasn't a good player at the I mean, it looked 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.040 like you kind of chance to be a good player. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:17.959 He's a starter as a rookie. James Stewart, it's about 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.079 what this team is gonna win. That's my point. It's 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:24.800 hard to win with the rookies. But I like you 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.000 you guys. The next year you won none. Yeah, but 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.599 we got we got older. The next year, all of 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.800 a sudden, you have Leon Seracy point may tackle is 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.199 six five six years in the league. Well, next year 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.240 you can get some you got money to spend it. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.240 I'm talking about this year right now? This year? Is it? 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.640 This year? If you're a Jaguar fan and this is 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.760 gonna be a cold crewe reality, you're having a bad year. 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.480 Put out there, You're not gonna be a good football team. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.560 You might be feightste you might be spunky, you might 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.000 be competitive in games, and you might improve as a 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.640 season goes along, but when it comes to wins and losses, 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.520 you're gonna win a lot of games. And as a fan, 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.760 the question is this, Tony, are you okay with that 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.000 with a glance to the future or are you sick 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.680 of it and you don't want to hear more? Like 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.720 you not about the cap room in the draft picks. 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:16.920 For me, I'm like, I'm not ready to sign off 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:18.920 that this year is gonna be a bad team. This year. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.920 I just can't do that record one lost record, Okay, 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.960 I can't. I still have a hard time doing that. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.480 Before we take them one snap, like we literally do 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.320 not know what this team is. Like we talked about 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.080 before we came on, Like, I'm not sure you prepped 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.440 for this game as we call it, as we're gonna 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.280 call the radio. It's like there's no tape. There's something 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.560 to watch and read some articles that's about it. Um. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.320 So I'm not gonna sign up for what you just 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.080 said that they're not gonna have a good record this year. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.760 I think it's too early to do that. Um, but 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.280 I do. I am tired, and I gotta believe fans 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.080 of time here about, Hey, we got cap room in 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:57.080 a bunch of draft picks, like, okay, great, Like it's 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.360 not like it's not like we're saying that, like, hey, 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:03.480 we were come and off. Um, you know, a thirteen 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.120 and three season after going to the playoffs three or 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.840 four straight years, and now we've got to rebuild and 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.120 clean up the cap and we've have more cap roo 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:15.520 with draft picks next year and we're coming on. But yeah, 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.440 but think about it, Tony, with all the guys that 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.720 they had and veterans that they had, they won five 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.000 and six games, So why not do something different. I'm 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.560 not saying I agree with you, Pete, No, you had 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.640 to make the moves that they made. I agree with 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:34.000 that they had no I keep hearing that they're tanking 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.600 and the and I think it was no like a haze. 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.040 Car Line pointed it out on the show one day, 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.000 went through all the moves they made. He included Nick 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.560 Foles as a tanking move. That's not a tanking move. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:49.160 That's a great move, that's a fantastic move. The bad 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:53.520 move was signing them. Yeah, like what moves they that's 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.160 a good that's a good topic. Like tell me one 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.280 move they made this offseason where you would say they 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:06.040 were taking and some people mentioned Claire's Campbell. Okay, that's 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:07.880 the only one that you could have an argument in 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.440 my opinion. And at that point they thought it was 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.760 too much money to pay him, and they thought Gunter 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.080 would be a replacement to step in and play, and 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:17.960 he had obviously had the issue with the heart and 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.800 he couldn't play. So that's right, because yeah, if you 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.880 look at it, um like, there's a lot of people 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.800 who felt like Klais took a step back last year 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.960 as far as you know, wasn't a guy who played 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.920 the amount of reps that they wanted him to play. 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.240 If he was gonna be making fifteen or seventeen, whatever 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.360 the number was. Um, I could argue both ways out 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.960 and said, you know what, having that veteran presence, Um, 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.840 you know what, you wanted to pay him ten, you're 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.120 gonna have to pay him fifteen. Like he might be 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.800 worth that extra because of who he is. Um. But 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.840 at the same time, if you were taking then you 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:58.160 wouldn't go spend free agent money on Gunter. You wouldn't 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.240 taking that money and spent There's no tank there. They 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.760 felt like they got younger and better with Gunter. Now 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:09.640 unfortunately the poor guy had a heart issue. That's terrible. UM. Yeah, 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.040 So I like, I like. The whole tanking thing makes 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.320 no sense to me because I don't there's that one 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.480 decision that they made says, oh they're tanking. I don't. Look. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.000 Tanking is a bad thing to say because it means 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:21.800 you're not trying to win, which you know, once you 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.600 get on a football field, everybody tries. Coaches try, everybody trying. Here, 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:29.200 what you're doing is tearing it to shreds to try 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.480 and start over again. And if that means going one 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:37.120 in fifteen and getting Trevor Lawrence, that's better off. Than 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.679 going six and ten and not having a chance to 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.119 get any of the top quarterbacks. If Minshew isn't what 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.960 they think he is, now Minchers what if Minshew special, 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.359 then all this young stuff won't really matter. They're gonna 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:54.040 be a six and ten team if he's special. If 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.439 he's not special, then you should be one in fifteen 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.440 to get Trevor Lawrence. Al Right, guys, let's come back 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.399 in them plenty to get to of course on this topic. 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.640 By the way, the Jags have three eight year players 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.400 on the roster, Avery Jones, d J. 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