Speaker 1: It is Monday, September seven. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now
Speaker 1: former Triple Crown winner J. P. Chad Rick. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure of what this Triple Crown is, Moore, but I'll
Speaker 1: take it. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick.
Speaker 1: We've got Pete Briscoe, Tony Boselli, the final cut to
Speaker 1: fifty three on Saturday, and plenty of youth to be
Speaker 1: sird for the Jags this year. And tonight We're gonna
Speaker 1: pick the schedule like we always do the show before
Speaker 1: the regular season, and I'm sure Tony we'll have the
Speaker 1: Jags going at least eleven and five and into the
Speaker 1: playoffs and deep into the postseason. We'll go around the
Speaker 1: National Football League as well. Gentlemen, Good afternoon, Pete down
Speaker 1: in South Florida. What's up? Uh? Does Tony have any
Speaker 1: locks for the year so far? This week, for the season?
Speaker 1: Anything week to start? Give me something, you need something,
Speaker 1: It's it's game week. I'm not ready yet. Maybe by
Speaker 1: the end of the show I'll have a lock for everybody,
Speaker 1: but I'm right now I'm kind of waiting I gotta
Speaker 1: feel out the show and kind of see where we go.
Speaker 1: I think I might have a lot how it works
Speaker 1: on the end of the show. Yeah, Pete, you gotta
Speaker 1: you have a luck by the end of the show,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a lock. That's pretty rare. I mean
Speaker 1: the Tony locks come weekly, we get those all the time.
Speaker 1: The Pete lock, that's when you know he means business.
Speaker 1: You locked down the playoffs last year and Week four
Speaker 1: he didn't work out that way. Do you think the lot,
Speaker 1: like the law, your lock could have something to do
Speaker 1: with like you're not doing the show anymore. That'd be
Speaker 1: a good luck? Oh wow? How bad with the show?
Speaker 1: If I was just you and j Pemon, who would
Speaker 1: you would pick on you? Won't you listen? Well? You
Speaker 1: should be. Um, Yeah, I don't think like we've been
Speaker 1: picking on each other is very nice, Pete. I think
Speaker 1: JP and I are nicer human beings than you, so
Speaker 1: we're probably kind to each other. You're the one who
Speaker 1: picks hell. Would I be scared of Tony? By the way,
Speaker 1: what is that about? No? Way, man, those glasses you
Speaker 1: got on today? No, these areas I've had same looks
Speaker 1: differently here. Maybe just for far away. You're looking more
Speaker 1: like Mr Magoon in me. Wow, maybe you should have
Speaker 1: yours check Pete. I don't know. I don't know. By
Speaker 1: the way, I'm an old guy. I'm an old guy.
Speaker 1: Tony's an old guy. Plus you got a add on
Speaker 1: twenty five years for every injury he's had, so he's
Speaker 1: an old guy. JP is pretty old. But you know
Speaker 1: who's not old? Nobody on the rosters old. Amazing, that's right.
Speaker 1: Jaguars m one of the most amazing in all of
Speaker 1: sports when it comes to what they've done. It's a
Speaker 1: great to the Final fifty three where the Jaguars they
Speaker 1: have more young young players on their roster than anybody
Speaker 1: I think. And I haven't done the work on it.
Speaker 1: Like the Dolphins cleedhouse and started all over, but they
Speaker 1: weren't this young. You make it sound like amazing, like
Speaker 1: in a good way. That's amazing, No, amazingly bad. How's that? Well?
Speaker 1: I actually, Tony, I don't think it's that bad a thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on a minority on that one. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's that bad thing. Let's let's get to
Speaker 1: the numbers of it, guys, real quick before we move
Speaker 1: on here sixteen rookies on the roster, eight second year
Speaker 1: players on the roster, six third year players. That's thirty
Speaker 1: of the fifth three that have played two seasons of
Speaker 1: football or less in the National Football League. Let's hear
Speaker 1: from g M. J. Coldwell. He says, give them a chance.
Speaker 1: Don't count this team out yet, and and I think
Speaker 1: they'll tie you the same thing. We we can't afford
Speaker 1: a rebuilding year and and that's not our mindset. Our
Speaker 1: mindset is to put um the best team out there
Speaker 1: to play, to compete in the win. And um, we
Speaker 1: feel like these guys, the guys in this locker room, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, nobody has seen him play together, nobody has
Speaker 1: seen him play a game. So, like I said, we're
Speaker 1: gonna know where we measure up. We played a very
Speaker 1: talented uh Indianapolis Colts on Week one and then we
Speaker 1: follow up with a final four team with the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: So we'll know pretty pretty quick where we measure up
Speaker 1: with some of the top teams in the league. Yes
Speaker 1: they will. Tony, Um, you know Mr Khan and Caldwell
Speaker 1: said that Mr Khan gave them the directive of hey,
Speaker 1: put the best team on the field and get the
Speaker 1: salary cap in order. Those are those are two tough,
Speaker 1: tough things to do together at the same time. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean the bottom lines, you want to put the
Speaker 1: best team on the field, like they're trying to win
Speaker 1: a football game and win and try to win the conference.
Speaker 1: And Dave's right, nobody knows what this team is because
Speaker 1: we haven't seen this team play together. There's no preseason.
Speaker 1: It's a young team. You mentioned all the new guys,
Speaker 1: sixteen of him a rookies, never even played a snap
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and you're gonna count on a number
Speaker 1: of those guys UM to help you win. I like,
Speaker 1: I appreciate the confidence that Dave has. I appreciate the
Speaker 1: positive attitude he has. I think that's what you have
Speaker 1: to do UM when you're in a leadership position where
Speaker 1: he sits. But I think as you look at it
Speaker 1: and you're realistic about UM and you just look at history,
Speaker 1: there's a reason teams don't go with a bunch of rookies,
Speaker 1: and there's a reason that like coaches and gems in
Speaker 1: the past haven't counted on a bunch of rookies help
Speaker 1: them win championships. And because it doesn't happen. Rookies take,
Speaker 1: Rookies make mistakes, they learn on the fly. Um, it's
Speaker 1: hard to count on those guys, and especially if you're
Speaker 1: counting on a bunch of them, because they can be
Speaker 1: inconsistent and consistent player doesn't lead to winning football a
Speaker 1: lot of times. So, um, history telling you it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough sled for them based on you know,
Speaker 1: the number of young players are going to be counting on.
Speaker 1: But Dave's right, Look let's givehim a chance. Let's see
Speaker 1: what they can do. Um. I still say the biggest, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest factor in this is the second
Speaker 1: year player named Gardner minshew, how he plays um like
Speaker 1: so much of like so many different teams you know,
Speaker 1: who kind of live and die by the quarterbacks. That's
Speaker 1: how this league is nowadays. Um, you either have to
Speaker 1: be really really good everywhere else and have a guy
Speaker 1: at that position who's you know, can kind of manage
Speaker 1: the club, or you have to be really good at
Speaker 1: that position. And uh, I don't think the Jags are
Speaker 1: really really good around him. I think they're really really
Speaker 1: young and they have some exciting players. Um, so Gardner's
Speaker 1: gonna be He's have to have played top end football.
Speaker 1: For this team to win football games, it's always about
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. And then when you're really younging, it's
Speaker 1: even more so. Who who's the most experienced guy on it? Team?
Speaker 1: Is it? If? Is that? Is that? Am I wrong
Speaker 1: about that? Is it? Avery Jones has been at it.
Speaker 1: This is his eighth year. Ifford's right up there too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so's those three guys? N Well, have seven? I think
Speaker 1: that's right, but nobody double digits usually have one or
Speaker 1: two of those guys. Don't you so? Young? Football? T Pete,
Speaker 1: I mean listen, look at the I mean, go through
Speaker 1: the guys who're gonna start your quarterbacks? The second year player,
Speaker 1: you're right, tackles a second year player. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: running back by committee, which is gonna be rookies in
Speaker 1: you know, a rookie and one seventh and one seventh
Speaker 1: round guy, seventh year guy, seventh year Chris Stops. Everyone
Speaker 1: else is super young. Your receivers that you know, DJ Chark,
Speaker 1: third year guy, so no, uh, second your rookie rookie
Speaker 1: you know, just John rookie. Yeah. John. On the other side,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, second year player. You know you're counting on
Speaker 1: the uh chase chase on the rookie to make productive
Speaker 1: Timelton the rookie, Hamilton the rookie. I mean, you're looking
Speaker 1: at Tavin Bryant, You're counting on to be a big
Speaker 1: player at three technique and he's coming off an injury,
Speaker 1: bone bruise. He's a third year player, gonna start a
Speaker 1: rookie safety? Uh, you know, rookie corner. I mean it's like,
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy you start. What did I say? Wait?
Speaker 1: What did I say last week that seven rookies could start?
Speaker 1: And you you shot me down? I still think seven
Speaker 1: rookies are gonna start. Well, you got Daniel Thomas will start, right,
Speaker 1: isn't That's one? Today was talking about Josh Jones a
Speaker 1: lot at safety. Thought John Jones and safety. It sounds like, well,
Speaker 1: Doug Broon today talked up Josh Jones a lot of
Speaker 1: this press conference. I'll say that, so then you won't
Speaker 1: have a rookie at safety then, so it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: whether it's five. You could eventually you in a week,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks you could. But pe I get
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna quibble with you about whether it's five
Speaker 1: six or seven. The bottom line is you're gonna have
Speaker 1: first and second year players all over the field that
Speaker 1: you're counting on, and none bigger than the rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: I mean, the second year quarterback and Gardner Minshew. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is shocking how young they they have become and
Speaker 1: like and how much they're going to count on these
Speaker 1: young guys to figure out a way when you had
Speaker 1: no off season, basically no training camp. You know, you
Speaker 1: have no look really of what they are going to
Speaker 1: be together in real situations. And you're gonna roll out
Speaker 1: there on Sunday against a veteran team led by a
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback um and most people are telling are projecting
Speaker 1: probably the best team in their division. Well, and and uh,
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. They got a lot of cap
Speaker 1: a lot of cap room, and a lot of draft picks,
Speaker 1: so they got that going for Like, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a different angle there because I'm actually tired of hearing
Speaker 1: about that because who cares number one as we sit
Speaker 1: here today. But if I'm a fan also, I'm thinking, like, great,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with that cap room? And
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with those draft picks? Because
Speaker 1: having them doesn't mean anything like having just a bunch
Speaker 1: of picks and a bunch of cap room doesn't. There's
Speaker 1: not a direct correlation to success. Right, you got draft
Speaker 1: the right guys? Did they draft the right guy and
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Well, it depends he's not on this team
Speaker 1: anymore and the picks back. Okay, we're not playing fantasy
Speaker 1: football or like some card game like, hey, I got
Speaker 1: this guy to get three extra guys for this. You
Speaker 1: said it last week, Tony, you said better to go
Speaker 1: in six and ten going one, and I said that.
Speaker 1: But my point I said that I'm not gonna step
Speaker 1: back from that. My point is if I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: as an fan listening like, oh great we have draft
Speaker 1: picks and and uh and sary cap, I don't care. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: what was the alternative you don't keep the young guys.
Speaker 1: Let's just say what moves did they make that they
Speaker 1: should have kept an older player and let him play. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, well, I'm I'm I want to let's make sure.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we're talking about too, because
Speaker 1: there's really two different things. For me. Um, I don't
Speaker 1: think like Dave or Doug made any moves that I'm
Speaker 1: looking at going that makes no sense. I just think
Speaker 1: they didn't have a bunch of good veterans on this team.
Speaker 1: They had no choice, Like there wasn't any and there's
Speaker 1: no one about cut where I sat there and looked like,
Speaker 1: why I can't believe they got rid of him and
Speaker 1: kept this guy. There wasn't one. So that's one. But
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, that's pretty much the way it was
Speaker 1: around the league. To Tony, there were a few. There
Speaker 1: were a few like Sidney Jones, who is now on
Speaker 1: the Tag Wires practice squad, was let go by the
Speaker 1: Eagles and he was a second round pick and some
Speaker 1: people were surprise at that, But then yet others he said,
Speaker 1: he has it stayed on the field. He hasn't been
Speaker 1: heard a bunch, So it really wasn't That's right. I
Speaker 1: don't think there were a lot of surprise you know,
Speaker 1: back when you were playing, if there were a lot
Speaker 1: of surprise cuts on the final cutdown, it's not the
Speaker 1: way it is anymore. Even in a non COVID season,
Speaker 1: they kind of clean out the stuff before you get
Speaker 1: to that cutdown. Yeah, so it's just interesting. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a young team. But as you and we
Speaker 1: get if you think about it, Pete, we just talked
Speaker 1: about how young they're going to be, and the JP
Speaker 1: gave the number thirty guys, but you know, three years
Speaker 1: or three years or less experience, um, sixteen of those rookies,
Speaker 1: and at the same breath we're saying, but no one
Speaker 1: got cut that we're surprised. So basically this was a
Speaker 1: pretty bad Like if you sixteen rookies make it not
Speaker 1: a real good roster going in, going into the draft
Speaker 1: or in the camp. But you're let's go back to
Speaker 1: your yes, yes, that means it's not a good roster.
Speaker 1: But in your rookie season, you were one of the
Speaker 1: better players on that team. You were rookie, but you
Speaker 1: were one of the better players. You had a couple
Speaker 1: other guys that were among the better, But Bryan DeMarco
Speaker 1: wasn't a good player at the I mean, it looked
Speaker 1: like you kind of chance to be a good player.
Speaker 1: He's a starter as a rookie. James Stewart, it's about
Speaker 1: what this team is gonna win. That's my point. It's
Speaker 1: hard to win with the rookies. But I like you
Speaker 1: you guys. The next year you won none. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: we got we got older. The next year, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you have Leon Seracy point may tackle is
Speaker 1: six five six years in the league. Well, next year
Speaker 1: you can get some you got money to spend it.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about this year right now? This year? Is it?
Speaker 1: This year? If you're a Jaguar fan and this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a cold crewe reality, you're having a bad year.
Speaker 1: Put out there, You're not gonna be a good football team.
Speaker 1: You might be feightste you might be spunky, you might
Speaker 1: be competitive in games, and you might improve as a
Speaker 1: season goes along, but when it comes to wins and losses,
Speaker 1: you're gonna win a lot of games. And as a fan,
Speaker 1: the question is this, Tony, are you okay with that
Speaker 1: with a glance to the future or are you sick
Speaker 1: of it and you don't want to hear more? Like
Speaker 1: you not about the cap room in the draft picks.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm like, I'm not ready to sign off
Speaker 1: that this year is gonna be a bad team. This year.
Speaker 1: I just can't do that record one lost record, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't. I still have a hard time doing that.
Speaker 1: Before we take them one snap, like we literally do
Speaker 1: not know what this team is. Like we talked about
Speaker 1: before we came on, Like, I'm not sure you prepped
Speaker 1: for this game as we call it, as we're gonna
Speaker 1: call the radio. It's like there's no tape. There's something
Speaker 1: to watch and read some articles that's about it. Um.
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna sign up for what you just
Speaker 1: said that they're not gonna have a good record this year.
Speaker 1: I think it's too early to do that. Um, but
Speaker 1: I do. I am tired, and I gotta believe fans
Speaker 1: of time here about, Hey, we got cap room in
Speaker 1: a bunch of draft picks, like, okay, great, Like it's
Speaker 1: not like it's not like we're saying that, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we were come and off. Um, you know, a thirteen
Speaker 1: and three season after going to the playoffs three or
Speaker 1: four straight years, and now we've got to rebuild and
Speaker 1: clean up the cap and we've have more cap roo
Speaker 1: with draft picks next year and we're coming on. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but think about it, Tony, with all the guys that
Speaker 1: they had and veterans that they had, they won five
Speaker 1: and six games, So why not do something different. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I agree with you, Pete, No, you had
Speaker 1: to make the moves that they made. I agree with
Speaker 1: that they had no I keep hearing that they're tanking
Speaker 1: and the and I think it was no like a haze.
Speaker 1: Car Line pointed it out on the show one day,
Speaker 1: went through all the moves they made. He included Nick
Speaker 1: Foles as a tanking move. That's not a tanking move.
Speaker 1: That's a great move, that's a fantastic move. The bad
Speaker 1: move was signing them. Yeah, like what moves they that's
Speaker 1: a good that's a good topic. Like tell me one
Speaker 1: move they made this offseason where you would say they
Speaker 1: were taking and some people mentioned Claire's Campbell. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: the only one that you could have an argument in
Speaker 1: my opinion. And at that point they thought it was
Speaker 1: too much money to pay him, and they thought Gunter
Speaker 1: would be a replacement to step in and play, and
Speaker 1: he had obviously had the issue with the heart and
Speaker 1: he couldn't play. So that's right, because yeah, if you
Speaker 1: look at it, um like, there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: who felt like Klais took a step back last year
Speaker 1: as far as you know, wasn't a guy who played
Speaker 1: the amount of reps that they wanted him to play.
Speaker 1: If he was gonna be making fifteen or seventeen, whatever
Speaker 1: the number was. Um, I could argue both ways out
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, having that veteran presence, Um,
Speaker 1: you know what, you wanted to pay him ten, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay him fifteen. Like he might be
Speaker 1: worth that extra because of who he is. Um. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, if you were taking then you
Speaker 1: wouldn't go spend free agent money on Gunter. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: taking that money and spent There's no tank there. They
Speaker 1: felt like they got younger and better with Gunter. Now
Speaker 1: unfortunately the poor guy had a heart issue. That's terrible. UM. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I like, I like. The whole tanking thing makes
Speaker 1: no sense to me because I don't there's that one
Speaker 1: decision that they made says, oh they're tanking. I don't. Look.
Speaker 1: Tanking is a bad thing to say because it means
Speaker 1: you're not trying to win, which you know, once you
Speaker 1: get on a football field, everybody tries. Coaches try, everybody trying. Here,
Speaker 1: what you're doing is tearing it to shreds to try
Speaker 1: and start over again. And if that means going one
Speaker 1: in fifteen and getting Trevor Lawrence, that's better off. Than
Speaker 1: going six and ten and not having a chance to
Speaker 1: get any of the top quarterbacks. If Minshew isn't what
Speaker 1: they think he is, now Minchers what if Minshew special,
Speaker 1: then all this young stuff won't really matter. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be a six and ten team if he's special. If
Speaker 1: he's not special, then you should be one in fifteen
Speaker 1: to get Trevor Lawrence. Al Right, guys, let's come back
Speaker 1: in them plenty to get to of course on this topic.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Jags have three eight year players
Speaker 1: on the roster, Avery Jones, d J. Hayden and Tyler Eifford.
Speaker 1: Six different seven year players Chris Thompson, Tyler Shanloo, Andrew Norwell,
Speaker 1: Cassius Marsh, Brandon Lender, and Timmy Journegan. Those are the
Speaker 1: elder statesmen of the roster. Game. We can't wait. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's see Lender, Norwell. I'll give you Thompson and Effort,
Speaker 1: Hayden and Avery. Maybe yeah, star they might game day
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying with with the players. I think when
Speaker 1: people are on the outside are thinking what what what
Speaker 1: does that mean? You know? The talk for the players,
Speaker 1: the rallying for the players the team first attitude. Um,
Speaker 1: that you have. I think that you know that that's
Speaker 1: exciting because you know, you're you're you feel that Some
Speaker 1: years you go in and you're like, Okay, if we
Speaker 1: hit adversity, which way are we gonna go? You know,
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Speaker 1: But this team I feel very confident in in handling
Speaker 1: any type of adversity. Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: That's Dug Morone today after practice Shadrick with Pete Prisco
Speaker 1: and Tony Boselli. Glad you're along with us. Your social
Speaker 1: questions coming up in the second hour today, we'll look
Speaker 1: around the a f C South, including a couple of
Speaker 1: big signings in the division that's in the second hour
Speaker 1: up today's show. Um, well, you know, and just hearing
Speaker 1: from Doug there too, sounds confident that and as he
Speaker 1: said that adversity is going to come for this team,
Speaker 1: but he's confident in this group can handle adversity. Tony,
Speaker 1: what does he mean by that the adversity part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's different for every team. It depends on the year really, frankly,
Speaker 1: because it could be a tough loss could be a
Speaker 1: guy good bad, injury to one of your key guys.
Speaker 1: It can be um, you know, anything like that. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's an off the field is year that you don't
Speaker 1: expect that comes in. You know, that happens, and like
Speaker 1: how does the team go? You lose a couple in
Speaker 1: a row? Um, you know. So those are all moments
Speaker 1: of adversity that are going to happen during the year
Speaker 1: and how you how you handle it as a team.
Speaker 1: We'll say a lot about the locker room and kind
Speaker 1: of you know where you're gonna end up. But I
Speaker 1: think what Doug saying is, um, every team has its
Speaker 1: own personality, and you know, sometimes like it's on the
Speaker 1: edge and like is this team gonna stick together when
Speaker 1: it's not going well? So like we used to call
Speaker 1: those like Theo's teams that are front runners. Like a
Speaker 1: front running team is like when it's going good for them,
Speaker 1: like everything is going good and they're gonna be good,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be rolling and they're gonna be high
Speaker 1: five and making things happen. But at the first sign
Speaker 1: of something going wrong and not going their way, it
Speaker 1: falls apart. And those are front runners. And you don't
Speaker 1: like pet you're you're just you're perfectly describing the two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen Jaguars. Yeah, like eighteen, I
Speaker 1: think they were front runners because like like when everything
Speaker 1: went their way, like everything in seventeen went their way,
Speaker 1: and so like they were rolling and and they were
Speaker 1: kind of a little bit there, and they were fun
Speaker 1: and they were loose and they say things every and
Speaker 1: then when it didn't go their way that they became problems,
Speaker 1: that's right. And then like at seven you get the eighteen,
Speaker 1: and like they were hot and they were rolling early,
Speaker 1: but you could kind of see some things in the
Speaker 1: training camp, a little pickering and something started happening. But
Speaker 1: you know what, they came out there were three and one.
Speaker 1: They're rolling and then they go face the chiefs and
Speaker 1: they get it handed to them, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you here maybe a little chirping back and forth, and
Speaker 1: like it starts falling apart. And that team fell apart
Speaker 1: because they were front runners. They didn't have great character
Speaker 1: in that locker room, in a great locker room where
Speaker 1: they were in it together and they were gonna fight
Speaker 1: through it and regardless of what the situation was. So
Speaker 1: and Doug saying he likes his team. He says he
Speaker 1: likes the locker room, he likes the guys, and adversity,
Speaker 1: they're they're starting to see it with adversity. They got
Speaker 1: six kids on the tea. I mean, yeah, they don't
Speaker 1: know and have no idea, I think. And this is
Speaker 1: what back in the day, as a beat guy, I
Speaker 1: would have went around to all the veterans and found
Speaker 1: out what they think about keeping all the kids. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a story. If you're a better player. That would
Speaker 1: have sidled up to Tony and he would have said,
Speaker 1: I don't really want to say anything, and then off
Speaker 1: the record he would give me the best the money quote.
Speaker 1: He would have said, it's ridiculous we have these kids
Speaker 1: on this team. Didn't do that story today though, because
Speaker 1: you can't go in the locker room anymore. Oh, I
Speaker 1: know it's hard to do. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: could do that story now. Yeah, But like I mean,
Speaker 1: it goes to I mean, like like the question, like
Speaker 1: if you were gonna ask the vetor like how do
Speaker 1: you feel about all these rookies? The next question has
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, who would you have kept? If
Speaker 1: you're going to keep these guys well, then that would
Speaker 1: have been the story then if you got to if
Speaker 1: every better. He looked around and said, none of those
Speaker 1: guys that you have the story. Veterans all on board
Speaker 1: with the kids in the locker room, Come on, beat
Speaker 1: work one on one is easy to find the story
Speaker 1: and make that. You can make the story. You just
Speaker 1: gotta ask the questions. And you're right though, j P.
Speaker 1: You can't go to the locker room. Are you sure
Speaker 1: that hell can stand outside in the parking lot, can't you?
Speaker 1: I guess at a distance. I mean it is a
Speaker 1: public place. So used to stand at the parking lot
Speaker 1: wait for guys to come out. That was I got
Speaker 1: some of my best stuff in the parking lot. Prisco
Speaker 1: was known to be waiting around when practice was over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I tell that story all the time. I'd
Speaker 1: stand there and this guy would come out, and that
Speaker 1: guy would come out, and this guy come out, and
Speaker 1: I did I find out stuff? I mean it was
Speaker 1: and you not only that, you got to talk to
Speaker 1: you guys about stuff other than football. You know, you
Speaker 1: can find out what's inside a guy a little bit.
Speaker 1: That's that's what you have to do with a peak guy.
Speaker 1: I think that's all been lost. It's been lost because
Speaker 1: now it's so structured. He'll talk here, he'll talk here,
Speaker 1: he'll talk there, he'll talk there. It's hard to get
Speaker 1: I'm gonna imagine as a peaky it's hard to get
Speaker 1: to know players. Now I can see and it's hard.
Speaker 1: You know, it didn't didn't that you get close enough
Speaker 1: to guys where they threatened to blow your car up, right, Pete?
Speaker 1: Whenn't that was the are you from the past? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a whole another story. That stuff can't happen anymore.
Speaker 1: That stuff can't happen anymore either because it goes viral
Speaker 1: and the guy would be imprison But yes, it's different.
Speaker 1: It's just different the way the NFL is now. Even
Speaker 1: as a national reporter, when I go into a team,
Speaker 1: and believe me, when you're a national reporter, you've got
Speaker 1: a camera. Teams will help you out any way they can,
Speaker 1: But you don't really get it's hard to get to
Speaker 1: know a guy. Uh that Well, it really is. And
Speaker 1: I think it's a challenge. And I imagine being a
Speaker 1: daily beat guy every single day becomes more of a
Speaker 1: challenge for these guys because of all the structure of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the fun part, at least for me on
Speaker 1: the weekly basis, and the buildings. Go in that locker
Speaker 1: room for forty five minutes and you know, spending some
Speaker 1: time with some guys that may not get the spotlight
Speaker 1: a lot and not on not on a microphone, not
Speaker 1: on the record, but you get to know the team
Speaker 1: a little bit better than what are you coming back
Speaker 1: into the building by the way, are you? I was
Speaker 1: in there for a minute today, but to shoot a
Speaker 1: television show. But not gonna be in there very often.
Speaker 1: Maybe game day for pregame show. But that's that's really
Speaker 1: about it. As the percent positive gone under the five
Speaker 1: percent level all over the state of Florida, where things
Speaker 1: should start opening up again, I mean, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna yeah, since we're navigating down. I mean there was
Speaker 1: there was actually a picture of a football game at
Speaker 1: Baker County that went viral this week and it was
Speaker 1: on TMZ and CNN and everywhere. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you saw it. I saw I did. Stands were packed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's come back in a moment, shall we will discuss
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Speaker 1: Happy Labor Day. J P. Shadrick from the home studio.
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco from his home studio in South Florida, And
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is not in a CIA bunker today. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing that Tony is home as well, for the first
Speaker 1: time and as well in a long time because of
Speaker 1: the holidays. That right, Tony? Is that accurate? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: almost forgot about the show, like it didn't kill Come on, mate,
Speaker 1: what you do? Did you play? Did you play golf
Speaker 1: or something? Today? I was actually playing golf this morning
Speaker 1: and I was gonnam embarrassing. I was gonna play thirty
Speaker 1: six sols and then I was like finishing the morning
Speaker 1: round and I'm like, oh, I can't play golf session.
Speaker 1: And I got a radio. Where did you play today? Uh?
Speaker 1: SAgs Country Club? And the score? I finished birdie, bogey, birdie.
Speaker 1: I don't care about how you finish. I finished birdie bogey, birdie.
Speaker 1: But I shot one oh four. Come on, I didn't
Speaker 1: play well. I'm the one thing I tell you that
Speaker 1: one thing I really missed about Jacksonville's the golf courses.
Speaker 1: There's so many of them. You don't play down there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do, but it's hard to play. It's hard to
Speaker 1: for a lot or doesn't have a lot of the
Speaker 1: real's day is so expensive. They don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of golf courses. Oh they don't. No, No, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I never would have thought about it like that. I
Speaker 1: never would have thought about it like that. We've you know,
Speaker 1: obviously we've touched on the youth on this roster, but
Speaker 1: then early in the show, we we did mention the
Speaker 1: offensive line is the most veteran of the groups. For
Speaker 1: this Jags team was not close they starting what's that, Pete?
Speaker 1: It's not close either because when you look at it,
Speaker 1: what they have seven seven and what is can now
Speaker 1: the six cam Robinsons and cans in a sixth yeah
Speaker 1: and then yeah to sevens and experience on the interior. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that's supposed to be the strength, right is it?
Speaker 1: Has it been a Strength three strength? No? But it's
Speaker 1: a great point, Like you bring up a good point
Speaker 1: that I struggle with it because I have and I've
Speaker 1: gotten criticized for it because I've gone to bat for
Speaker 1: these guys and said, this is a good group. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a top ten group in the NFL. And
Speaker 1: and and it's the same group. No changes have been made.
Speaker 1: And if you look at them, I loved them all
Speaker 1: as individuals, like individually like they're like you would think
Speaker 1: they like. They've got a good group, especially with the
Speaker 1: right tackle, a really good player. We were in the
Speaker 1: middle of any discussion about the offensive line for the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Pete Tony JP disappeared. You here hear us? Can
Speaker 1: you hear us? J? I got you? Yeah, happened? What happened?
Speaker 1: I don't know, man? You left us. We all left.
Speaker 1: We're all gone talking to each other. You here, remember
Speaker 1: what we were talking about. We're talking about the offensive
Speaker 1: And then then I asked you about a j Can
Speaker 1: and I said, is Can he's inconsistent? But is it game?
Speaker 1: The game or play to play? What do you think
Speaker 1: about that? Oh? So I think a j Can is
Speaker 1: like the perfect like picture of what like he like
Speaker 1: tells the story of what the Jaguar offensive line is like.
Speaker 1: At times it looks good, at times it looks really bad,
Speaker 1: and so inconsistency makes it difficult, um to count on it.
Speaker 1: And I think A j is like a perfect example
Speaker 1: of that. Times you watch and he plays games, he's physical,
Speaker 1: he's good, he's you know, athletic, you know, you love
Speaker 1: everything about him. But then and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you watch a couple of plays or a series or
Speaker 1: even a game, You're like, what the heck is that?
Speaker 1: Like he's leaning, he's reaching, he's you know, grabbing instead
Speaker 1: of bringing his feet. Um and so. But I think
Speaker 1: that's really the story of this offensive line Pete last year,
Speaker 1: Like I got so frustrated with it because at times
Speaker 1: like you saw glimpses of what it could be and
Speaker 1: then at other times you're like, oh my gosh and
Speaker 1: so um and I'll say what I did. I was
Speaker 1: I think I'm not sure JP you heard this or not,
Speaker 1: but I was saying how this offensive line has to
Speaker 1: be the unit that basically puts the team on its
Speaker 1: shoulders and says that here we go, like they have
Speaker 1: to dominate games if they want to win. This year
Speaker 1: they had the Jaguars offensive line has to be dominant?
Speaker 1: What about um? Was there any if you watch any
Speaker 1: of this tape Tony playing guard behind can Yeah, a
Speaker 1: little bit. He's he's a big body. He's like a
Speaker 1: big man. I think he's has he has a chance
Speaker 1: of the sleep. He's still learning. Um, but I like
Speaker 1: his size. Um. You know, he looks like a powerful
Speaker 1: human being. You know, it's so hard to tell just
Speaker 1: practice wise, but like I think he has um. He
Speaker 1: has a chance. He has a chance to be a
Speaker 1: good offensive garden. But not this year. You don't think
Speaker 1: he plays this year? Oh you never know, I mean
Speaker 1: injury or no, outside of an injury, no, pete, I
Speaker 1: don't think. Okay, yeah, something to watch and then of
Speaker 1: course you have shot. Lee is a backup on the
Speaker 1: interior that offensive line as well. He's been around for
Speaker 1: about twenty two years and never plays. He'll he'll jump
Speaker 1: in there when when needed, when there's an injury or
Speaker 1: something in the interior. He's played some guard, he's played
Speaker 1: some center. He's a guy that can do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know we can do it, but he I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like, and my wrong has he's only been here
Speaker 1: I think seven or eight years if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: But it seems like he's been here since Tony playing.
Speaker 1: He was he was a backup on your line. Tony No,
Speaker 1: but you bring it. It's an interesting point, Pete, from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of because you don't don't think you see
Speaker 1: this very often. I Shatley has been on the team
Speaker 1: seven years, and I love he's a great guy. But
Speaker 1: if you're have ever spent any time with them, like
Speaker 1: literally salted the earth. Just a good dude, um. But
Speaker 1: you often don't see guys who just backups like that's
Speaker 1: what they are, like make it for like seven straight years.
Speaker 1: You usually to see a team that tries to go
Speaker 1: younger and try to develop other guys in those positions,
Speaker 1: and somehow Shatley just fights him off every year, or
Speaker 1: or he becomes a stor that developmental guy becomes a starter.
Speaker 1: He's worked a couple of years as a backup, and
Speaker 1: then he becomes the starter for whatever reason. He's just
Speaker 1: a career back up. But he doesn't go away, or
Speaker 1: they'll go or they go sign the big free agent
Speaker 1: norwell you know, and and put him in there. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I like, I'm glad Shadley's the thing. He's
Speaker 1: a good dude. Well, they keep they kept him, Richardson
Speaker 1: and bart As, so they're at eight. They have eight.
Speaker 1: Then right, they didn't keep a night eight actor. Is
Speaker 1: there nine on the roster though? Is there ninth? I
Speaker 1: didn't think they did. I mean that's when I looked
Speaker 1: at it. When I looked and saw eight, that's what
Speaker 1: I saw. The double check here, I mean, was there
Speaker 1: a young guy that they liked because they had some
Speaker 1: young defensive players they like. They clearly kept the undrafted kid. Uh,
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman, they don't. I think they only offensive lineman, right, yes,
Speaker 1: but they kept the undrafted defensive linemen. Yeah. And remember
Speaker 1: there's a little more flexibility of moving guys off practice
Speaker 1: squad this year too. I don't know if that changes
Speaker 1: your perspect perspective, but Tony, when you played, I think
Speaker 1: you kept nine off of the line. Uh yeah, we
Speaker 1: usually did eight, eight or nine? Yeah, seven active on
Speaker 1: game day. Um hey, let's see. So get through this
Speaker 1: at some point. But I love it. Uh, do we
Speaker 1: have it? Like we spent a long time on the offense,
Speaker 1: but looking at the defense? Are we spend time talking
Speaker 1: about the defense coming up here? Well? I was gonna
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Speaker 1: Tony's request was flipping to defense. We were going there anyway,
Speaker 1: by the way, real quick, how many fans are going
Speaker 1: to be at the game? Fifteen thousand? Is that what
Speaker 1: it was? I think there's are So it's sixteen seventeen
Speaker 1: thousand in that ballpark? Is the capacity of what do
Speaker 1: you say of their normal crowd or the stadium? The
Speaker 1: normal crowd, they'll have fewer people than Baker County have
Speaker 1: the other day. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Hey,
Speaker 1: at least they have fans. Some of these teams have none. Well,
Speaker 1: so that's the point too. It's like Thursday night will
Speaker 1: be fans in Kansas City, but then Sunday the Jags
Speaker 1: are the only home team with fans of the entire league.
Speaker 1: Why is that? Is that any state deal? Yeah, you won't.
Speaker 1: You won't have fans in California until two thousand and
Speaker 1: twenty three. I think the way that stay I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just weird. Like if Miami and Tampa were home,
Speaker 1: they would have fans in the stands. Yeah, it's Florida
Speaker 1: right right, I'm surprising up letting them sell out, let
Speaker 1: them all in like Alabama. It's like Alabama and Jordan, Mississippi,
Speaker 1: coul all in, all fans in the stands everywhere, Come
Speaker 1: hell or high water, there will be college football in
Speaker 1: the Deep South. That's how that's gonna work. All right,
Speaker 1: let's start on defense here, and you know I want
Speaker 1: to start up front, So I'm gonna start up front.
Speaker 1: In the comment the other day that from Todd wash
Speaker 1: Tony that Caleb and Chason is much stronger than they
Speaker 1: I guess anticipated in training camp, and he's going to
Speaker 1: play defensive end. That's going to be his position. He's
Speaker 1: not going to be a linebacker, at least to start.
Speaker 1: So there are moments where you could see Alan and
Speaker 1: Chason on the field they feel like he's strong enough
Speaker 1: to play maybe on that other side on the defensive line.
Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting development. Yes, he's still a rookie,
Speaker 1: but there's I think there maybe hoping a little bit
Speaker 1: more that he can perform more than they anticipated, I guess,
Speaker 1: and in his rookie year, yeah, I guess. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If it all depends what kind of
Speaker 1: defense Todd wash wants to run, which is I find ironic?
Speaker 1: Remember all offseason everyone was convinced, I mean, all the
Speaker 1: people and the smart people said they're going to a
Speaker 1: three four. Sources they're going to a three four. They're
Speaker 1: going to a three four. At least the practice I've
Speaker 1: seen JP, it's still the same old defense that we've
Speaker 1: always seen. It looks like a three four to me. Um,
Speaker 1: you don't play seven guys in the front anyways. But
Speaker 1: my point is saying that is it's just it's interesting,
Speaker 1: I mean, which leads me to there are four three teams.
Speaker 1: Can you go with Chase On and Josh Allen in
Speaker 1: first and second down against a two tight end set
Speaker 1: or a one tight end set? I can Chase On
Speaker 1: hold up and a double team between an offensive tackle
Speaker 1: and a tight end. Are they gonna? I mean? Okay,
Speaker 1: But my point is always used to put in Cockway
Speaker 1: at the open dead and try to get him away
Speaker 1: from that. They used to flip side, so Clays was
Speaker 1: your big end and go Way was your open side. Well,
Speaker 1: they're gonna go with Josh Allen and Jason I mean
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's pounds sixty pounds. Is he now going to
Speaker 1: be your big end on the field at the same time,
Speaker 1: back and on third down, never on first second, never
Speaker 1: on the first and second down. You're right, don't have
Speaker 1: a big end, then smooth. I mean you can see
Speaker 1: you start smooth because he can play in the big end.
Speaker 1: You gonna remember almost your plays. You're gonna be in
Speaker 1: the nickel. Anyways, Well, I understand that people this team
Speaker 1: couldn't stop the run last year. So where team's gonna
Speaker 1: come out and do last them? And so and then
Speaker 1: which leads to my next question, is I mean tam
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's no official when's the official
Speaker 1: injury report come out JP Wednesday? Wednesday? The first day Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 1: But we haven't seen Taven since he had the bone bruise. Well,
Speaker 1: Doug Morone said today in his press conference after practice
Speaker 1: that over the weekend Taven was and he did practice today.
Speaker 1: Now there's no status report today. Obviously we'll find out
Speaker 1: for sure if you practiced today, he'll put it down. Okay,
Speaker 1: So how did they line up on first down then Tony,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's gonna be Avery and day Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean my guess is Avery and Taban and then
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go Josh Allen and I Smooth
Speaker 1: as your big end. I guess. So the guy you drafted, Okay,
Speaker 1: then if you have the three linebackers, he's not playing
Speaker 1: the strong side spot Chase at all. I guess not
Speaker 1: Wash explained that he won't be linebacker. But that means
Speaker 1: you you took a guy that you took in the
Speaker 1: in the top what how many? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: Where was he pick? What number was he was twine
Speaker 1: or whatever? Nineteen? He's not gonna be barely gonna be
Speaker 1: on the field there, No, it's it's he didn't have
Speaker 1: the same role Josh Allen did last year. Josh Allen
Speaker 1: put in the snaps, the snaps because he's only on
Speaker 1: their nickel. Yeah, I think see, I think you could
Speaker 1: have played him at the strong side linebacker. Didn't put
Speaker 1: him on with his hand on the ground in passing situations,
Speaker 1: they're not going to um. I just think it's interesting.
Speaker 1: So like it, maybe Todd thinks that they can line
Speaker 1: up with those two. You know two smaller ends plays
Speaker 1: a strong side, so when they go on the field,
Speaker 1: they have three linebackers in the field. Who's starting at
Speaker 1: the strong side there, I guess is Leon Jacobs mhm right, JP, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that would be that would be mine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I personally I would have found the way to get
Speaker 1: Chase on on the field more, particularly as a young player. Well,
Speaker 1: you said the same thing last I would have and
Speaker 1: I still believe that maybe they maybe they were playing
Speaker 1: possum with us. Well you're only again, you're you're nickeled
Speaker 1: seventy alm stacks anyway, so he's gonna play. But I
Speaker 1: would have found the way to get if we say
Speaker 1: that if he like, don't he said, if teams ran
Speaker 1: the ball under his throat, they're not gonna get Well,
Speaker 1: that's the big issue. I wouldn't say if. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: that's a big issue. Can they get passing situations where
Speaker 1: you can show off Josh Allen and Chase Song's ability
Speaker 1: to get after be athletic and get to the quarterback, Well,
Speaker 1: they can run last year and he had and Josh
Speaker 1: Allen had double digit sacks as a rookie, So I
Speaker 1: know they have a lot of confidence in Devon. Hamilton's
Speaker 1: on the interior as well. And I don't know, Tony
Speaker 1: you said earlier you had not been out there. He
Speaker 1: is a broad guy, He's not He's not like fluffy
Speaker 1: like he's just built. He's a big guy. You know.
Speaker 1: I think they have a lot of confidence what he
Speaker 1: could bring. I watched thet I watched anybody type remind
Speaker 1: you of to many from any player or somebody big,
Speaker 1: big body type like that. He's just the big square body.
Speaker 1: I mean he's just a big thick you know, not
Speaker 1: like like not Chris Jones big right, No, remember like
Speaker 1: uh he was this He's not remember like Chester mcglo
Speaker 1: big square block. Yeah, he's like a big thick chested
Speaker 1: square Yeah. Was like he was like a fire hydrant
Speaker 1: because I was like the real the size of a
Speaker 1: human being. He was square. Yeah. And so he's a
Speaker 1: big human being. JP's right, and he listen, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be good against the run. He's a big physical guy. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, so I think he'll be okay on first
Speaker 1: a second down? Uh, how do they rotate up? How
Speaker 1: does the road how do the guy who plays in rotas?
Speaker 1: I think it'll be Hamilton's avery rotting at the one
Speaker 1: technique and I think it's gonna be journey again and
Speaker 1: uh David a three technique and then the ends will
Speaker 1: be smooth. Chase on Alan, Yeah, that's my guess. What
Speaker 1: about Gastus? Does he play? Uh? Maybe maybe he's your
Speaker 1: big end, the big end. Yeah, you know, he didn't
Speaker 1: look I mean he's coming off that a C L
Speaker 1: and the practices that I watched, it didn't look like
Speaker 1: it was all the way back. I guess it would
Speaker 1: be the best way to say it. So in other words,
Speaker 1: he didn't look right. No, just not explosive like like
Speaker 1: not like I mean, it looked bad. He was a
Speaker 1: pretty he was a pretty good player before the a C.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, that's what That's what. He didn't
Speaker 1: look like that guy JP. You watched him, I mean,
Speaker 1: would you agree? Yeah? I had a little he was
Speaker 1: wearing a thing on it and was you could tell
Speaker 1: he was maybe just not as confident as he as
Speaker 1: he should be early in campidly, So let's come back.
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Speaker 1: everything m H. I've always felt like and talking to
Speaker 1: some veterans that have been kind of going from team
Speaker 1: to team and a lot of them at times when
Speaker 1: you caught them wish they could have been on the
Speaker 1: practice squad and continue to develop with the team they're at.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a great rule this year. I
Speaker 1: kind of hope that we keep it that way. UM,
Speaker 1: But to be able to give guys and add some
Speaker 1: depth there and some veteran leadership, even if it's a
Speaker 1: practice squad guy and guys that have been around, UM,
Speaker 1: I think it's great because it's a lot easier to
Speaker 1: a giving a guy from your practice squad on a
Speaker 1: on a game week, then they have to fly somebody
Speaker 1: in sign him on a Tuesday, get him acclimated in practice.
Speaker 1: So our our number one goal is when we activate
Speaker 1: guys and and we have a need, is to get
Speaker 1: him from the practice squad. And if that's a veteran guy,
Speaker 1: even better. G M. Dave Caldwell speaking Saturday afternoon after
Speaker 1: the cutdown to fifty three and welcome back Second Hour,
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour underway, j P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli,
Speaker 1: Your Social Questions coming up. Next segment will go around
Speaker 1: the a f C South and around the league as well.
Speaker 1: The big stories of the day, though The final fifty
Speaker 1: three is young thirty Jaguars players and now their third
Speaker 1: season or less in the National Football League. But there
Speaker 1: are some key veterans obviously on this team. Three eight
Speaker 1: year players, six different seventh year players on the squad.
Speaker 1: A lot of those guys are on the offensive line.
Speaker 1: The practice squad is Dave Coldwell was referencing to. There
Speaker 1: has been announced you can have six VESTT veterans on
Speaker 1: their Four players can be protected each week and as
Speaker 1: cold Well mentioned that it makes it easier for those
Speaker 1: weekly transactions. When a guy gets dinged, you can bring
Speaker 1: a guy from your own program in. Um. You know
Speaker 1: we were talking. We didn't get what's that. It's a
Speaker 1: taxi squads. You know where that came from. It came
Speaker 1: from Paul Brown back in the day. He kept cut
Speaker 1: down to thirty three, but he liked about another ten
Speaker 1: of his guys. So what he did is he hired Um.
Speaker 1: He had the owner of the team who had a
Speaker 1: taxi company, and he kept him on the taxi company's
Speaker 1: employee list, and then he practiced and then whenever anybody
Speaker 1: got hurt, he just bring him up from the taxi squad.
Speaker 1: True story. That's where taxi squad. That's where the taxi
Speaker 1: squad comes from. How about that? It was I guess
Speaker 1: that was legal in the league back then. Well he
Speaker 1: kind of skirted the rules and then they made it
Speaker 1: into something where everybody could do it. But can you
Speaker 1: imagine a roster with only thirty three guys? Yeah? Wow, um, interesting,
Speaker 1: You know, this is the time and we were touching
Speaker 1: on defense and we gotta pick the season coming up
Speaker 1: to by the way, that's gonna happen here fairly soon
Speaker 1: here in the segment. But let's finish up our defensive
Speaker 1: conversation from last hour. That's right, I know, I know. Um,
Speaker 1: we didn't touch on the secondary that much. We touched
Speaker 1: on safety and what they could do in place of Harrison.
Speaker 1: They like Josh Jones. It sounds like according to Doug
Speaker 1: Morown today, but you look at the cornerback spot. D J.
Speaker 1: Hayden is a vet on the interior at corner. But
Speaker 1: you got some youth there too, third year player and
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon who hasn't played a lot of football in
Speaker 1: his career here and then a rookie and C. J.
Speaker 1: Henderson in the first round on the other side, and
Speaker 1: then after that there's a lot of rookies in depth
Speaker 1: in the cornerback room. To Pete, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: lot of young guns running around. Really is I mean
Speaker 1: you know what they keep? Um Josiah Scott they kept
Speaker 1: Farco Um. Is that the the only two rookie corners
Speaker 1: they kept? Yeah? I think so. But that's a young group.
Speaker 1: I mean C J. Anderson starting. Herndon is not an
Speaker 1: old guy either. I mean that the only guy there
Speaker 1: with any experience is Hayden really I mean not experienced,
Speaker 1: but because Herd didn't played last year, but real experience.
Speaker 1: So it's they're gonna be challenged early and often. And
Speaker 1: they get a Philip Rivers this week. I mean, does
Speaker 1: he know how to find corners that can pick on?
Speaker 1: Of course he does well. And here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: mean last year, one year ago, we're sitting here, Trey
Speaker 1: Herndon was the fourth corner from this roster, and no
Speaker 1: one was thinking like, hey, we need Tray Herndon, like
Speaker 1: be like, are the guy? And because of what happened
Speaker 1: with Jalen and all the other stuff and boy A leaving.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden you look at it, you're
Speaker 1: starting Trey Herndon, and he's the widely vette of the
Speaker 1: two corners because the other ones are working. Um, I
Speaker 1: mean they are super young, not a lot of experience,
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how they match up,
Speaker 1: because you know, it's amazing Tony is Wilson will have them.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, Wilson will have the most experience
Speaker 1: right beside Hayden the corner. But of the four guys
Speaker 1: who are announced the starters, Wilson I think has the
Speaker 1: most experience. Yes, pretty amazing, that's amazing. And he I
Speaker 1: mean like on the on the seventeen team, he was
Speaker 1: like a backup, deep backup, he was a backup special
Speaker 1: teams guy. Yeah, barely. There's questions like he would be
Speaker 1: like he was like the undrafted guy who made it,
Speaker 1: like like end of the roster making it. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Now, if Henderson's good and herdn't improves, Hayden's
Speaker 1: a good nickel corner, then they'll be okay. But those
Speaker 1: are big questions, those are major questions. What do you
Speaker 1: have questions at safety too? I mean Jared Wilson was
Speaker 1: a special teams guy a couple of years ago. See
Speaker 1: I always thought he would be fine if the guy
Speaker 1: next to him was Okay, I never thought Ronnie Harrison
Speaker 1: was very good. I'll be honest with you, I never
Speaker 1: really did. I may make a big thump every once
Speaker 1: in a while, missed the signments, miss tackles. So I
Speaker 1: think if you had a really good player next to Wilson,
Speaker 1: I think he'd be fine. Is the two safe? You
Speaker 1: know the other safety? But the problem is now what
Speaker 1: they got to the other safety? And and JP. You
Speaker 1: made it sound like that they kind of hinted that
Speaker 1: Jones would start there. Yeah, it sounded like it from
Speaker 1: from what Doug Brown said today. They love the guy there. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's it's the turnaround of that secondary's incredible. Well, and
Speaker 1: here's the thing we're all since he's been also worried
Speaker 1: about the um up front, you know, the deaders one.
Speaker 1: Even when you started diving into the secondary, you're like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, there's a lot of questions there as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a lot of young guys and
Speaker 1: that in surprises. You know, you look around, uh, you
Speaker 1: know with Ronnie Harrison not being there anymore, he's a
Speaker 1: guy last year going in, Hey, we got a good
Speaker 1: safety group feel felt good about getting rid of Buried
Speaker 1: Church and Uh and Uh Gibson because you had Ronnie Harrison.
Speaker 1: I mean twelve months later, you're trading them and getting
Speaker 1: rid of them because you want to go um with
Speaker 1: the most I mean a much younger group. Ronnie Josh
Speaker 1: Jones actually has more experience in Ronnie Harrison correct correct,
Speaker 1: more years in the league. But does he have more
Speaker 1: starts to No, I don't let me look, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. But he started, No, He's always started all games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so just because you are in the league longer, wasn't
Speaker 1: have more experience. No. We can make that argument for
Speaker 1: Jared Wilson too. By the way, how many starts to
Speaker 1: see having his career now? No, thirty twenty, I'd say
Speaker 1: it's in the better has more than you think. You guess,
Speaker 1: I'll look, but yeah, it's it's it's a position that
Speaker 1: totally you know the two safeties would flip. I mean
Speaker 1: the ones that played in seventeen because they were older
Speaker 1: guys that you signed, so you knew they were going out.
Speaker 1: But you, like Tony said, you thought you thought that
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison will be one of those safeties to take. Oh,
Speaker 1: so last year Josh Jones was in Dallas. Did he
Speaker 1: get cut or get hurt? What happened? I think he
Speaker 1: was a late add I think if I'm not I
Speaker 1: gotta remember that one. Hey, by the way, Jared Wilson,
Speaker 1: how many starts eight yep, so that that's kind of
Speaker 1: the same argument for him. Well, let's uh, it is
Speaker 1: what I would have I thought they might start the
Speaker 1: rookie at safety, but they probably want a little more
Speaker 1: experience back there. And and if I remember right, Thomas
Speaker 1: had a little something during training camp injury wise, health wise,
Speaker 1: nothing major Daniel Thomas. We're talking about the rookie, so
Speaker 1: but he's obviously available on the roster and everything, but
Speaker 1: I think there might have been a little something there.
Speaker 1: Let's pick the schedule now, guys, we're gonna this is
Speaker 1: the one Tony loves to do because he goes on
Speaker 1: record and it becomes a viral moment on social media
Speaker 1: when Tony uh not only picks the Jaguars in many games,
Speaker 1: which is great, you know, but then he doubles down
Speaker 1: halfway home during the middle of the season and this
Speaker 1: is where it all begins though. And Tony, we'll get
Speaker 1: your take on We're gonna go game by games, so
Speaker 1: keep telling yourselves, guys. Let's start Week one. The Jaguars
Speaker 1: host the Indianapolis Colts at t I A. Bankfield, Tony.
Speaker 1: What do you got? No, Pete goes first. I'm the
Speaker 1: star of the show, so I'm going after Pete goes.
Speaker 1: You're the star of the show. Are you talking about?
Speaker 1: You're the star of you? You're the star only in
Speaker 1: your own mind I can say that. I think I
Speaker 1: think the Colts win. The Colts will win, and it'll
Speaker 1: be close. I think it's gonna be that's my lock, close,
Speaker 1: really close. I think the heat's gonna bother the Colts.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a tough situation. People in
Speaker 1: the crowd will get behind the Jaguars, and I think
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be close. Yeah, well, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting game. I think it's a slugfest actually, And
Speaker 1: I think what happens is this offensive line takes him
Speaker 1: to the victory and they beat up the front seven.
Speaker 1: I think they run it. They shocked the world um
Speaker 1: with the run game, much like they did in seventeen
Speaker 1: when they came out against the Texans. No one thought
Speaker 1: they could run the ball they did, and I think
Speaker 1: the offensive line has a big day. He will be
Speaker 1: a factor, will wear out the Colts, and Gardner Minshew
Speaker 1: will take him on a game winning drive at the
Speaker 1: end with a thirty thirty eight year yard Josh Lambo
Speaker 1: kicked to win by two. Wow, that's what I'm saying now.
Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing JP that he turned a flipped the
Speaker 1: switch like like an hour and a half. I do
Speaker 1: not know what you're talking about, JP does week to
Speaker 1: the Jaguars had to disan stadium in Nashville to face
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. No fans in the stands here, Pete, Well,
Speaker 1: they played so well in that place in their history
Speaker 1: that leads me to believe they're gonna play really well
Speaker 1: up there. Uh. I can see Henry going for two
Speaker 1: twenty again or something like that. Titans win it by ten. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love this matchup with the no fans. I think
Speaker 1: works to the Jaguars benefit. I still think they probably
Speaker 1: I just can't get it done at Dianna. I think
Speaker 1: they just barely lose, probably one or two point lost
Speaker 1: in the Titans. Well, I got a mowing too. You
Speaker 1: got them one in ye all right? Let's go to
Speaker 1: week three. It's a Thursday night nationally broadcast game NFL Network.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars entertained the Miami Dolphins at PM Eastern time
Speaker 1: p that's their first victory. They're gonna get it in
Speaker 1: front of the national audience. And uh I think Miami
Speaker 1: still rebuilding. Who knows, maybe two is in by then.
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars win that game tight, but the
Speaker 1: win by two or three. Now it won't be close.
Speaker 1: I think Jaguars win by two or three scores, dominating performance.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins are gonna be everyone after this game. After
Speaker 1: week three 're gonna be asking the question or the
Speaker 1: Dolphins tanking and the Jags pushed for the playoffs. So wait,
Speaker 1: so you have them two and one after three weeks,
Speaker 1: they'll be talking about the postseason in September. Based on
Speaker 1: your logic, Okay, okay, another Thursday, another Thursday night game
Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshew doing this doing the guns on the
Speaker 1: desk after the game on NFL Network j JP. If
Speaker 1: we put Tony Basselli on the line detective test that
Speaker 1: we go, yeah, well, we're gonna we're gonna play along.
Speaker 1: Let's move this along fairly quickly. Here guys at Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Week four, pet Bengals win the game two and two
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. I think Joe Burrow by then will
Speaker 1: be settled in as a quarterback. I like the Bengals
Speaker 1: full to Okay, yeah, that means the Jaguars are one three,
Speaker 1: one of three. That's right, one of three. I forgot,
Speaker 1: I got, I got. I thought I was two and one.
Speaker 1: I was all discombribulated over your picks because I know
Speaker 1: what you really do, I know what you're really I
Speaker 1: can't keep up what you really thinking, what you're actually picking.
Speaker 1: So it's hard to do. For Jack. Give me three
Speaker 1: and one. They're gonna come out of the first quarter
Speaker 1: of the season three and one had the real deal.
Speaker 1: They'll dominant for the youthful. The youthful Jaguar comes or
Speaker 1: three and one going into week five. No, they're not
Speaker 1: as young as Joe Burrow. Joe Burrows young too. If
Speaker 1: you have sella, you have a three and one. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go. We're getting in October now at Houston. I
Speaker 1: don't think the Texans are that good. They'll hang around
Speaker 1: in the game, but the Texans will find a way
Speaker 1: to win it. With the Watson drive late. They win
Speaker 1: by a touchdown. How about that? Yeah? I think this
Speaker 1: is like, this is revenge gate. This is a big
Speaker 1: deal because Gardner feels like he got robbed. The should
Speaker 1: have gone for They shouldn't. They should have kicked the field,
Speaker 1: gone gone to overtime where she would have won it.
Speaker 1: Last year they went for two and four, Net couldn't
Speaker 1: get it in mid She wants revenge and he's gonna
Speaker 1: get it. They win by seven. Six weeks six, the
Speaker 1: Jaguars host the Detroit Lions. Feet what do you got
Speaker 1: for us? Quickly? Yeah? I don't. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to slow down Stafford that passing game.
Speaker 1: I think the Lions will go in there and win
Speaker 1: the game. Lions win. They scored thirty three in that game.
Speaker 1: Very great. Wow, Yeah, I actually think I think. I
Speaker 1: think Jaguars get caught sleepwalking a little bit. We get
Speaker 1: all fold themselves to four and ones to lead the
Speaker 1: NFC South, and uh, they have a letdown. I think
Speaker 1: the uh Lion to win next week. Week seven is
Speaker 1: the bye week. Jaguars win when and then the week
Speaker 1: the Chargers in l A p uh that Chargers defense
Speaker 1: is too good. I think they're gonna struggle out there.
Speaker 1: They've always struggled out West, They'll continue to do that.
Speaker 1: Chargers win the game. Yeah, it's it's a definitely home
Speaker 1: field advantage for the Chargers because they're used to playing
Speaker 1: in front of fans, and so they're gonna be very
Speaker 1: used to Hey, they can say that about the Jaguars, dude,
Speaker 1: so um but no, no, no, derwin James hurts that team.
Speaker 1: Uh still be good on defense though, I think that.
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers um play well but not enough.
Speaker 1: I think Minshew continues his West Coast magic and he
Speaker 1: started last year up in Oakland. Jaguars win Gus Bradley
Speaker 1: revenge the Jags first visit to so FI Stadium in
Speaker 1: l A week nine. Well, the JAG's got the revenge
Speaker 1: win apparently in a few weeks earlier in Houston. How
Speaker 1: about at home against the Eexan's pete. I think they
Speaker 1: win that game. That's when those young kids start growing
Speaker 1: up a little bit. I think Minshew will have a
Speaker 1: good game. I don't believe in the Texans defense. I like,
Speaker 1: I like the Jaguars to win that game. That gets
Speaker 1: their second win. So yeah, so you have met two
Speaker 1: and six. Yeah, right now, I'm five and two to it.
Speaker 1: They win, They're gonna be the talk of the of
Speaker 1: the country after the first half of the season. Six
Speaker 1: and two not only leave the NC South, but a
Speaker 1: chance to have home field advantage unbelievable. And if the
Speaker 1: Jaguars at this point are six and two, then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, there'll be a lot of flexed games
Speaker 1: coming up on the schedule because the next week the
Speaker 1: Jaguars are at lambeau Field against the Green Bay Packers. Pete,
Speaker 1: what do you oh, that's blowout city Rogers lights them up. Uh.
Speaker 1: They Packers win by I'm not your Aaron Rodgers will
Speaker 1: still be your quarterback. Might be Drew Love or what's
Speaker 1: his name? Quarterback? He's the third quarterback, by the way,
Speaker 1: he didn't even beat out Tim Boyle. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: like what's his dame, Jim what's his name? Jordan ub Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like the Packers again, I think it was young
Speaker 1: Jaguar team gets a little ahead of themselves. Um probably
Speaker 1: loses about a wait field ball game gets the Packers
Speaker 1: over the top. Uh, two and seven. We gotta get
Speaker 1: through the rest of these quick. We could eleven home
Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh. Pete, No, not winning that one either, Tony
Speaker 1: always be Pittsburgh easy. Win home against the Browns, the
Speaker 1: Ronny Harrison revenge game, Pete, I think they win that game.
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars win that game and get their
Speaker 1: third victory. The Browns are fraud. Jags win at the
Speaker 1: Vikings the Unique and Gay revenge game. He might sound
Speaker 1: the galler horn himself, Pete. Yeah, well, they've never every
Speaker 1: time that they've gone up there, and they've had problems
Speaker 1: when they're short history, and they will have more problems.
Speaker 1: Blowout City Vikings big. Yeah, I don't like that game.
Speaker 1: The Vikings win home against the Titans. Week fourteen December.
Speaker 1: They win that game. By that time, their defense is
Speaker 1: playing better. They'll slow down Henry. They win that game
Speaker 1: for fourth victory. Yeah, I can shoot the Titans. The
Speaker 1: Titans aren't mentally tough. I think they're living off last
Speaker 1: year's Acto legs, and I think they have a tough year.
Speaker 1: Jags win Wow at the Ravens. Tough game in Baltimore, Pete,
Speaker 1: that's ugly. Lamar Jackson will destroy them. Ugly game blowout.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I don't love the matchup. I think it's
Speaker 1: closer than any one thinks, But I think Baltimore gets
Speaker 1: to win. Ultimately, Home gets the Bears in Week sixteen,
Speaker 1: they have a legitimate chance to win that. That could
Speaker 1: be Nick Foles Revens game. By then. Um, I still
Speaker 1: think they win. That's a game they win at home.
Speaker 1: They win that game. Oh, the no brainer. They win
Speaker 1: that game, especially if Big Folds is starting. And then
Speaker 1: weeks seventeen Jags at the Colts, Well, the Colts will
Speaker 1: be playing for the division and seeding. The Guards will
Speaker 1: be playing for nothing. Colt to win it five and eleven.
Speaker 1: Where what do I have met right now? JP, I've
Speaker 1: lost track. I only think have light around right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I'm going for so far. So
Speaker 1: this will be a game that will be on Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Football, just so you know, because the winner, the
Speaker 1: winner wins the division. The loser goes to the wild card.
Speaker 1: I just think it's a little too much for Minshew
Speaker 1: and his crew. I think they end up losing and
Speaker 1: end up at eleven and five, so they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to travel the wild card path to get to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl on Tony Yeah, yep. If they get to
Speaker 1: eleven wins, it will be one of the greatest football
Speaker 1: miracles of all time. There's no chick Okay, what do
Speaker 1: you think the odds of the Jaguards eleven games in?
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Speaker 1: chance if they won eleven and five and went through
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Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, I'm counting on maybe. Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Glad you're along with us. I hope you're
Speaker 1: having a nice holiday. Let's get into the social questions today, fellas.
Speaker 1: Let's start off but at traffic of Jason. How's the
Speaker 1: offensive wine looking this year? Health and talent wise, Tony,
Speaker 1: you want to take this one. Yeah, health is good.
Speaker 1: I mean, they really have a dining in camp, so
Speaker 1: I mean they're healthy. That's good news. Um, they are
Speaker 1: talent wide. I mean I think I said it earlier. Individually,
Speaker 1: I think they have talent. Can they pull together? Can
Speaker 1: they be consistent? That's gonna be the big test for
Speaker 1: them this year. Yeah, I agree. Again, it's all about
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson for me. If he takes the next step,
Speaker 1: they should be pretty good on the offensive line. I
Speaker 1: think Taylor is gonna be a big time player, but
Speaker 1: consistency from week to week and play to play has
Speaker 1: to be better across the ward. Yeah, move along, so
Speaker 1: we'll find out less than a week from today. The
Speaker 1: next question from at flash ta ta. Why do people
Speaker 1: assume it's a good decision to draft Trevor Lawrence when
Speaker 1: the old line is still a problem. Obviously this person
Speaker 1: thinks differently than than what you do. Tell me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have the first overall picked, the
Speaker 1: reason you picked Trevor Lawrence is because he's the best
Speaker 1: player we're assuming. I mean, based on everything we know today,
Speaker 1: he will be the best player in all of college
Speaker 1: football and possibly a generational quarterback. In most people's minds.
Speaker 1: So that's why you picked him pretty easy. And the
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks cure your ills and and if you have
Speaker 1: ills on defense and its on offense, they will cure
Speaker 1: him for you. So to pick a quarterback, yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree that the one the one position they can't cure
Speaker 1: completely is the offensive line. But Brady helped make his
Speaker 1: offensive line and Peyton, right, I agree with that, right,
Speaker 1: get the ball out well, you know, help yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And the other argument to those is Indie right, they
Speaker 1: didn't give him enough help on that old line and
Speaker 1: he got banged up and beat up and out of
Speaker 1: the league. And what's seven years? Oh, Andrew Luck, Andrew Luck. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he got beat up pretty good early in
Speaker 1: his career there. But like for example, I'll go back
Speaker 1: to the Colt offensive line to Peyton was there, Tark
Speaker 1: Glam was a pretty good player but for the most part,
Speaker 1: and Jeff Saturday is pretty good center, but for the
Speaker 1: most part, that was just a group made up of
Speaker 1: guys well and New and New England is New England
Speaker 1: ever had really really dominant offensive lineman Tony No, but
Speaker 1: good ones did really well coach a scheme that corrects
Speaker 1: like Matt Lhite was a good player, and they were
Speaker 1: good players. They weren't dominant players. That ball got out quick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you look at how that whole system was
Speaker 1: built around Peyton Um Howard mud who just recently passed
Speaker 1: away after a motorcycle accident. Great offensive line coach. I mean,
Speaker 1: everything was in concert together, meeting like the depth of
Speaker 1: Peyton's drops, how they set they knew the ball is
Speaker 1: gonna be out. You know, we wanted to protect him
Speaker 1: inside out Um and so yeah, I think it's great
Speaker 1: quarterback play. A offensive coordinator and offensive line coach that
Speaker 1: are in uh, working in tandem, which would shock people.
Speaker 1: Doesn't always happen, uh, And so the combination made them,
Speaker 1: you know, good players played great together. That was my
Speaker 1: whole point, Pete, about this offensive line. The offense a
Speaker 1: lot isn't always just about great individual talent. It's how
Speaker 1: the five worked together and play together in the system.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny that when we talk about the
Speaker 1: offensive lines and the great teams and stuff, if you
Speaker 1: go back, I can look at with the great the
Speaker 1: teams with great quarterbacks. For example, when Elway was in Denver,
Speaker 1: he had Gary Zimmerman, which was a really good, but
Speaker 1: he didn't have them all the time. Tony Jones, Yeah,
Speaker 1: his life was pretty good. Yeah, Nyalen, Yeah, his line
Speaker 1: was pretty good. Was a good player, Bill Jim Kelly
Speaker 1: had a great offensive life, by the way, Joe Montana,
Speaker 1: Harris Barton, Jesse's a polo. I mean you'd go down
Speaker 1: the Keith van van Horst, Yeah, yeah, they Yeah, he
Speaker 1: had a good offensive line. Frank quill in the center
Speaker 1: was a good player. Yeah, he had Montana. There were good.
Speaker 1: Most of the good teams, the really good teams have
Speaker 1: good offensive to our next question from at Hoddari eleven,
Speaker 1: what exactly does the mic communicate prior to the snap
Speaker 1: of the ball, In addition, what is being said to
Speaker 1: him from the sideline into his helmet speaker. Well, the
Speaker 1: mike is the middle linebacker. For anyone who doesn't know
Speaker 1: the terminology, the way the linebackers go is Mike's mental
Speaker 1: will is weak side and sam and strung side linebacker
Speaker 1: UM the mic or middle linebacker, usually as a coach
Speaker 1: to quarterback UM in his helmet as long as he's
Speaker 1: an every down linebacker, So sometimes it's the will linebacker
Speaker 1: because he's more of a he might be on the UH,
Speaker 1: they might take the mic out if he's not a
Speaker 1: guy who can play in sub third down packages. Anyways,
Speaker 1: whoever ends up having to uh the headset is being
Speaker 1: told what defensive coverage or a defensive front defensive coverage,
Speaker 1: So what's the defensive play they want to play on
Speaker 1: that calling that play, and that's what he's connunicating to
Speaker 1: the rest of the team. Does Showber some linebackers have
Speaker 1: the ability to change it at the last second, you know,
Speaker 1: like based on what happened, like change the coverage or
Speaker 1: something that well he had that I'm sure you will,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, based on yeah, yeah, you have rules based
Speaker 1: on if they go by three by one and we're
Speaker 1: in you know, we're in a cover three and they
Speaker 1: go three by what we wanted, it's gonna be automatic,
Speaker 1: go to cover four. You know what's interesting about that,
Speaker 1: Tony we had to really talk much about Showberg. What
Speaker 1: what have you seen from him as a middle linebacker?
Speaker 1: I mean what I saw in Cleveland, smart athletic, can run,
Speaker 1: not a thumper, didn't pass coverage. You know, solid player
Speaker 1: he was. He was a pretty good player in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Not a great player, but it's pretty good player. Good
Speaker 1: in coverage. Um, yeah, so he but he's not a thumper.
Speaker 1: Beat he will which is a problem. If you the
Speaker 1: teams start running on you, that's a problem. But he
Speaker 1: he will make jack a better player. I think I
Speaker 1: think that works two ways because I think, well, Jackson
Speaker 1: a better position. First and foremost, I think that his position.
Speaker 1: I always thought it was his position. We didn't basically,
Speaker 1: I sure I do now because it wasn't Mike. Well
Speaker 1: it wasn't Mike, and it wasn't a strong side. Remember
Speaker 1: when he played the strong side that was So maybe
Speaker 1: what we're saying, we're hoping it's a position, because if
Speaker 1: it's that, there's nothing left linebacker. Well, yeah there is.
Speaker 1: It's a bench. But he's a weak side linebacker who
Speaker 1: needed to I don't know. I thought he. I don't
Speaker 1: he wasn't big enough to thump in the run game.
Speaker 1: That was for sure, A big dude. He's big. But
Speaker 1: I don't say you don't play big. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's his issue. What do you think he got lost?
Speaker 1: At times? It looked like to me he got lost
Speaker 1: in the middle linebacker. So maybe it was just too much.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, I mean, maybe it was overwhelming for
Speaker 1: him all that. I don't know. It just didn't look
Speaker 1: like he was ever comfortable. I will say this, guys
Speaker 1: around him, well, if he doesn't play well will linebacker
Speaker 1: that he is woefully overpaid. How about that? That's an
Speaker 1: accurate statement. Let's get to our final question from at
Speaker 1: Polster thirty eight. Do you think Channa will play running
Speaker 1: back at all? And who gets the most series at
Speaker 1: running back Sunday? No, he will not play running back,
Speaker 1: Um Robinson. I think Thompson will get the most snaps,
Speaker 1: Robinson will get the most carries. That's what I think. Wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie coming in hot, coming in hot. Baby, he's
Speaker 1: good things about him. I haven't seen him, but I
Speaker 1: hear good things about him. What do you? That's why
Speaker 1: I love when people say that here a good thing.
Speaker 1: What has he done? It's been too hand touch on
Speaker 1: the practice field? He like what Hey? After the first
Speaker 1: practice you told me that one of your draft picks
Speaker 1: couldn't play licking that was in his mini kid. So
Speaker 1: you you do? I can tell. I'm an expert. Did
Speaker 1: you not? Is that not a true story? True story?
Speaker 1: And was that not right? You were right? Were you
Speaker 1: in pads by when you said that. No, it was
Speaker 1: in a minicamp Tony, So you can tell. So I
Speaker 1: just just just throughout your theory right there. You can
Speaker 1: tell as long as it's someone as smart as I
Speaker 1: am that told you that you did that. You did
Speaker 1: that more than once too. By the way, I was
Speaker 1: never wrong ever, and I know you weren't. I would
Speaker 1: give you credit for that. I could tell, by the way.
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson the other day said that Robinson has the
Speaker 1: best vision of the visit group. At least right now,
Speaker 1: we don't have didn't have any vision. He's no longer
Speaker 1: there are you getting shots of a guy back in
Speaker 1: a moment. He is in Tampa. Back in a moment.
Speaker 1: We'll go around the an f C South stuff go
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks wouldn't do that. Well, we you know, we talked
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Speaker 1: You got a backup six round of from Oregon State.
Speaker 1: Jake Luton is the backup, by the way, back up
Speaker 1: look pretty good. Spending okay, great, but he's still a rookie. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's incredible, But why why bother with Glennon?
Speaker 1: What's Glenna gonna do? I don't know the practice. You
Speaker 1: don't usually go yeah, okay, I wasn't there. You were?
Speaker 1: Were you? JP? You you were there? Did Luton now
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Speaker 1: then that's why you keep him. I'm not saying that people.
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Speaker 1: of the rookie who has never played Adank snap with
Speaker 1: no preseason pete. Think about this. If the kid has
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Speaker 1: spent some money PETE this week quarterback to Shawn Watson.
Speaker 1: It's a four year, one hundred sixty million dollar extension.
Speaker 1: This is huge money and after four years of probably
Speaker 1: three here is it gonna renegotiate maybe for something even
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Speaker 1: the season and they've had some playoff failures as well,
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Speaker 1: touchdown passes is not enough of Deshaun Watson, well pete.
Speaker 1: But it's a four year extension, so he saw us
Speaker 1: to work. He starts to play out his the next
Speaker 1: two years of his rookie deal. So he's stilling a
Speaker 1: contract for six years, not four jp um. And so
Speaker 1: you're looking at six years, and with his rookie deal,
Speaker 1: it's probably six years. What a hundred and seventy million
Speaker 1: dollars more like it? If he's averaging five the last
Speaker 1: two years of his rookie contract, um, So it's not
Speaker 1: quite the eye popping I mean, it's still a great
Speaker 1: deal of I'll gonna be wrong, but it's not like
Speaker 1: he's averaging thirty nine years the average I think, or
Speaker 1: a little bit less even. But anyway, it's they have
Speaker 1: they have under contract. It's a lot of guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: I think a hundred and ten of its guaranteed um.
Speaker 1: But they have under they have under contract for six years.
Speaker 1: Now is he here's the question. Is he elite? He's
Speaker 1: on borderline from it. He has the ability at times
Speaker 1: he looks elite, um times he holds the ball too
Speaker 1: long for me and makes some uh silly decisions. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think he's at that. Um, so I'm making
Speaker 1: up the numbers. Let's say there's five elite, he's that
Speaker 1: he's at the next stage five to ten, like he's
Speaker 1: on the verge of having an opportunity. He's not better
Speaker 1: than a Rodgers. No, I didn'tink Aaron Rodgers is very
Speaker 1: good the last couple of years. But Aaron Rodgers through
Speaker 1: twenty six and four last year. So I didn't I
Speaker 1: said Aaron Rodgers better, Pete, I mean, I know you
Speaker 1: love Aaron Rodgers. So but I said he's better. Okay,
Speaker 1: big deep breath. No, I mean he's certainly not Russell
Speaker 1: will City, not Aaron Rodgers. Um, like he's matching staff Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you said that in a public forum, people would
Speaker 1: kill you. Why is he? Is he better than Matt Ryan?
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan has been m v P of this league,
Speaker 1: I mean business, This has been a public forum. This
Speaker 1: is a public isn't it? Okay? But Tony hides here,
Speaker 1: Like if you put that on Twitter and get destroyed,
Speaker 1: put it on Twitter that Matt Stafford is better than
Speaker 1: I didn't say Matt Jeff is better or as good
Speaker 1: as DeShawn Watson, because I agree with they're all in
Speaker 1: that next category. Right, there's only a couple of elite. Yeah,
Speaker 1: gets me, Like, who's elite? Is Tom? Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: Drew Brees still elite? I Greece? Uh close? Uh? No?
Speaker 1: Is so right now? The only elite out The only
Speaker 1: elites out there are mahomes and and Wilson like bona
Speaker 1: fide by guys. It was like, yeah, yeah, and I
Speaker 1: would say Lamar Jackson he's right there too, but we
Speaker 1: might have to win a playoff game first, fair enough,
Speaker 1: but I mean he's special in my opinion. I like
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson a lot. Let's move to the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: They signed Jadeveon Clowney one year up to fifteen million
Speaker 1: dollars and no franchise tag next year. And apparently news
Speaker 1: this afternoon a story came out of that apparently the
Speaker 1: Jags attempted a sign and trade deal. Pete, you know
Speaker 1: what you think about that. I knew they were, they
Speaker 1: were interested, but I didn't know to what degree. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I think they were gonna trade. No, they're gonna
Speaker 1: trade him to Yeah, but then you get cap room
Speaker 1: that way right, training your away from yep, So no,
Speaker 1: you're trade for picks, you take cap right, thanks, But
Speaker 1: the league said they couldn't do it. Well, the Saints
Speaker 1: tried to do it with Cleveland and couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. A clowney names over games. Games
Speaker 1: over names, right, and so it's that's some reason everybody
Speaker 1: gets it wrong. He's not an elite player. He's a
Speaker 1: good player. He plays hard, he's tough, he's physical, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't rush the pastor that. Well, come on, think
Speaker 1: about this. If you were an elite pass rusher, would
Speaker 1: you be on the market until a week before the
Speaker 1: season starts? Would you be on your third team? No,
Speaker 1: he's not. I don't think he's an elite pass rush
Speaker 1: I think I probably think more highly of him as
Speaker 1: a football player than you do because he messes things
Speaker 1: up for offenses. He's physical, he's all over the place.
Speaker 1: He just messes things up. Okay, but Seattle has a
Speaker 1: glaring need for a guy to do that. They only
Speaker 1: offered him ten million dollars a year. Why we have
Speaker 1: cafish He was number one, Okay, Houston sent him packing
Speaker 1: and large park because b Brian didn't like him, but
Speaker 1: he never thought he could win consistently on the edge.
Speaker 1: Well he's not he's not a great passicher. I agree
Speaker 1: with you there, so he's not worth He's not worth
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen minutes seventeen million dollars season. But I think
Speaker 1: like a thirteen fifteen millions of fair number. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get He got twelve, right, he got the
Speaker 1: same amount of money as a Dockway got. But he's
Speaker 1: got a chance to earn more back with him sentives.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's right. By the way, the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts placed star a good friend or former draft
Speaker 1: pick here in Jacksonville, Sheldon Day on injured reserve as
Speaker 1: look around the a f C south um Quick Power
Speaker 1: rankings in the division before Week one. Well, I know
Speaker 1: how I'm going, but Tony's has gonna be reflected his records.
Speaker 1: So I got the Colts one, the Titans to the
Speaker 1: Texas three, and the Jaguars four. Colts jagspectives go into
Speaker 1: the wild card. Berth apparently to let's go around the
Speaker 1: National Football League now a waiver claims down this year.
Speaker 1: NFL Networks Tom Pellisero reported that over the past ten years,
Speaker 1: the average number of posts cut down waiver claims league
Speaker 1: line was about forty one and the lack of preseason
Speaker 1: games and some opportunities or workouts are part of the
Speaker 1: reason why seventeen were claimed this year. Pete, that's down
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, it's different, and you're gonna see a
Speaker 1: lot of shuffling of rosters throughout the season because okay,
Speaker 1: let's say, uh the Jedi Wars keep they kept two
Speaker 1: of those young kids at the end, and then they
Speaker 1: play a little bit, whether it be on special teams
Speaker 1: or whatever, and they can't handle it. Then you don't
Speaker 1: you don't know what they can do in a game.
Speaker 1: So maybe they won't be able to handle a game.
Speaker 1: Maybe they freeze up on game day. Tony, Ever, play
Speaker 1: with a guy who froze up on game day. You
Speaker 1: would look great practice, but game day came and he
Speaker 1: froze up. You know these guys will do I would
Speaker 1: say guys froze up, But you definitely have guys who
Speaker 1: can do it on the practice field but can't translate
Speaker 1: it to the game. That's freezing up. It's that freezing up.
Speaker 1: Always think in practice it's scripted like you know the
Speaker 1: situation like, okay, it's one of one pass rushes. You
Speaker 1: know this, like you have to like in game days war,
Speaker 1: you have to react. You have to be able to
Speaker 1: handle the game situation, and some guys can't do that.
Speaker 1: Feats froze up today. It me and Tony had off
Speaker 1: air conversations why j B was frozen in time. Let's
Speaker 1: move along here. Ryan Fitzpatrick is the Week one starter
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins against the Patriots. Not to uh, of course,
Speaker 1: how about this pete. Ryan Fitzpatrick was a seventh round
Speaker 1: pick and oh five out of Harvard. Of course. Including
Speaker 1: the eight million dollars he's do this year, Fitzpatrick will
Speaker 1: have made over seventy one million dollars in his career.
Speaker 1: That's incredible. Remember when remember when Buffalo gave him the
Speaker 1: big extension. I remember writing the whole thing saying what
Speaker 1: a mistake that was, and it proved it's proven to
Speaker 1: be that. Look, he's a good I call him the
Speaker 1: helium balloon because his ball stays in the air for
Speaker 1: a week and a half. But he's actually proven to
Speaker 1: be a pretty decent quarterback. He should be a backup.
Speaker 1: He should be a long time backup is what he
Speaker 1: should be. Miami's gonna be caught a situation. What if
Speaker 1: they're competitive a little bit, then they play him the
Speaker 1: entire season. You don't want that. You want to get
Speaker 1: onto tour. You want to get through that as fast
Speaker 1: as you can. But if they're competitive, I think he
Speaker 1: stays in there. Yeah, I agree. I mean, Fitzpatrick fits Magic,
Speaker 1: fits magic, great story. But you know he's he's a
Speaker 1: strong backup. He'd be a great backup on your roster
Speaker 1: um and but he's made the most of his situation,
Speaker 1: of the opportunities that he's had, and I take my
Speaker 1: hat off to him. Speaking of strong backup, Smith Robinsky
Speaker 1: is the starting quarterback for the Bears and Nick Foles
Speaker 1: is the backup in Chicago. Pet I don't know. We
Speaker 1: had a conversation on our show the other day about that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw the clip they
Speaker 1: sent out where I said, doesn't really matter and either
Speaker 1: one of them said he could. Neither one of them
Speaker 1: is a good quarterback. I'm sorry, it's it's still Nick Foles.
Speaker 1: God bless you have the greatest aberration season or playoff
Speaker 1: run in history. You aren't very good. If you can't
Speaker 1: beat up Mr Robinsky. You clearly are very good and
Speaker 1: Mr Bisky is not very good, So who cares he starts?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that the Chicago Bears trading up, gave
Speaker 1: up draft capital to go get Mitchell Rabisky when Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson and Patrick Mahomes were there on the board. What
Speaker 1: was his best taking your running back forth overall in
Speaker 1: that draft? Yeah? But Ryan? Does Ryan Pace get any
Speaker 1: criticism for that? I mean, yeah? And I think don't
Speaker 1: you think that's the reason why Drabinsky starting. Whether I
Speaker 1: don't know the competition, but maybe I played because he
Speaker 1: knew the offensive, but he knows the offense too, Folds
Speaker 1: because he played in it before. Don't I just think
Speaker 1: there's sometimes Look, if Pace picked Drabinsky had made the
Speaker 1: movie to go get it, Naggy Pace or tied to Drabinsky.
Speaker 1: So if Drabinsky doesn't play, well, they're all out anyways.
Speaker 1: If they play Folds and they don't play, they're all
Speaker 1: out anyway. So you might as well take your shot
Speaker 1: with Jabinsky. Yeah. Crazy, Let's be honest about it. You're
Speaker 1: not very nice thought around the league. The Raiders sent
Speaker 1: third round pick Lynn Bowden and a sixth round pick
Speaker 1: to the Dolphins in return for a fourth round pick. Uh.
Speaker 1: He said it was a football decision only, Pete, that's
Speaker 1: pretty rare you trade a guy you've picked in this
Speaker 1: draft from where he's played a game. Man stories come out.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a football decision. Uh. He's had some He
Speaker 1: had a hard life, the kid, and so when he
Speaker 1: got to Vegas, they thought he was more concerned about
Speaker 1: what was going on away from football, and they felt
Speaker 1: he might be And I didn't know this for a fact,
Speaker 1: but I read it where he might be abandoned influence
Speaker 1: on Henry Ruggs and and Brian Edwards, the two young
Speaker 1: receivers that actually are going to start for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I think that was a bad situation. So that's why
Speaker 1: it ended up that way. Yeah, receiver and then quarterback.
Speaker 1: And they had had the running back that was dumb
Speaker 1: that he's a pretty slot receiver. That's what he should
Speaker 1: Alrighty as well done. Next week we'll be recapping the
Speaker 1: Jaguars Week one performance against the Indianapolis coult We'll see
Speaker 1: you then, Pete, Tony the Pete Frisco Tony Boselli on
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