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Speaker 1: It is Monday, September seven. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now

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Speaker 1: former Triple Crown winner J. P. Chad Rick. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure of what this Triple Crown is, Moore, but I'll

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Speaker 1: take it. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: We've got Pete Briscoe, Tony Boselli, the final cut to

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Speaker 1: fifty three on Saturday, and plenty of youth to be

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Speaker 1: sird for the Jags this year. And tonight We're gonna

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Speaker 1: pick the schedule like we always do the show before

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Speaker 1: the regular season, and I'm sure Tony we'll have the

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Speaker 1: Jags going at least eleven and five and into the

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Speaker 1: playoffs and deep into the postseason. We'll go around the

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Speaker 1: National Football League as well. Gentlemen, Good afternoon, Pete down

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Speaker 1: in South Florida. What's up? Uh? Does Tony have any

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Speaker 1: locks for the year so far? This week, for the season?

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Speaker 1: Anything week to start? Give me something, you need something,

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Speaker 1: It's it's game week. I'm not ready yet. Maybe by

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Speaker 1: the end of the show I'll have a lock for everybody,

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Speaker 1: but I'm right now I'm kind of waiting I gotta

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Speaker 1: feel out the show and kind of see where we go.

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Speaker 1: I think I might have a lot how it works

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Speaker 1: on the end of the show. Yeah, Pete, you gotta

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Speaker 1: you have a luck by the end of the show,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a lock. That's pretty rare. I mean

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Speaker 1: the Tony locks come weekly, we get those all the time.

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Speaker 1: The Pete lock, that's when you know he means business.

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Speaker 1: You locked down the playoffs last year and Week four

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Speaker 1: he didn't work out that way. Do you think the lot,

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Speaker 1: like the law, your lock could have something to do

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Speaker 1: with like you're not doing the show anymore. That'd be

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Speaker 1: a good luck? Oh wow? How bad with the show?

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Speaker 1: If I was just you and j Pemon, who would

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Speaker 1: you would pick on you? Won't you listen? Well? You

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Speaker 1: should be. Um, Yeah, I don't think like we've been

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Speaker 1: picking on each other is very nice, Pete. I think

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Speaker 1: JP and I are nicer human beings than you, so

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Speaker 1: we're probably kind to each other. You're the one who

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Speaker 1: picks hell. Would I be scared of Tony? By the way,

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Speaker 1: what is that about? No? Way, man, those glasses you

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Speaker 1: got on today? No, these areas I've had same looks

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Speaker 1: differently here. Maybe just for far away. You're looking more

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Speaker 1: like Mr Magoon in me. Wow, maybe you should have

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Speaker 1: yours check Pete. I don't know. I don't know. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I'm an old guy. I'm an old guy.

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Speaker 1: Tony's an old guy. Plus you got a add on

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Speaker 1: twenty five years for every injury he's had, so he's

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Speaker 1: an old guy. JP is pretty old. But you know

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Speaker 1: who's not old? Nobody on the rosters old. Amazing, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars m one of the most amazing in all of

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Speaker 1: sports when it comes to what they've done. It's a

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Speaker 1: great to the Final fifty three where the Jaguars they

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Speaker 1: have more young young players on their roster than anybody

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Speaker 1: I think. And I haven't done the work on it.

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Speaker 1: Like the Dolphins cleedhouse and started all over, but they

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Speaker 1: weren't this young. You make it sound like amazing, like

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Speaker 1: in a good way. That's amazing, No, amazingly bad. How's that? Well?

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Speaker 1: I actually, Tony, I don't think it's that bad a thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on a minority on that one. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's that bad thing. Let's let's get to

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Speaker 1: the numbers of it, guys, real quick before we move

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Speaker 1: on here sixteen rookies on the roster, eight second year

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Speaker 1: players on the roster, six third year players. That's thirty

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Speaker 1: of the fifth three that have played two seasons of

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Speaker 1: football or less in the National Football League. Let's hear

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Speaker 1: from g M. J. Coldwell. He says, give them a chance.

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Speaker 1: Don't count this team out yet, and and I think

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Speaker 1: they'll tie you the same thing. We we can't afford

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Speaker 1: a rebuilding year and and that's not our mindset. Our

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Speaker 1: mindset is to put um the best team out there

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Speaker 1: to play, to compete in the win. And um, we

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Speaker 1: feel like these guys, the guys in this locker room, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, nobody has seen him play together, nobody has

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Speaker 1: seen him play a game. So, like I said, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna know where we measure up. We played a very

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Speaker 1: talented uh Indianapolis Colts on Week one and then we

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Speaker 1: follow up with a final four team with the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: So we'll know pretty pretty quick where we measure up

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Speaker 1: with some of the top teams in the league. Yes

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Speaker 1: they will. Tony, Um, you know Mr Khan and Caldwell

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Speaker 1: said that Mr Khan gave them the directive of hey,

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Speaker 1: put the best team on the field and get the

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Speaker 1: salary cap in order. Those are those are two tough,

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Speaker 1: tough things to do together at the same time. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean the bottom lines, you want to put the

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Speaker 1: best team on the field, like they're trying to win

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Speaker 1: a football game and win and try to win the conference.

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Speaker 1: And Dave's right, nobody knows what this team is because

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen this team play together. There's no preseason.

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Speaker 1: It's a young team. You mentioned all the new guys,

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Speaker 1: sixteen of him a rookies, never even played a snap

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Speaker 1: of those guys UM to help you win. I like,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the confidence that Dave has. I appreciate the

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Speaker 1: positive attitude he has. I think that's what you have

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Speaker 1: to do UM when you're in a leadership position where

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Speaker 1: he sits. But I think as you look at it

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Speaker 1: and you're realistic about UM and you just look at history,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason teams don't go with a bunch of rookies,

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Speaker 1: and there's a reason that like coaches and gems in

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Speaker 1: the past haven't counted on a bunch of rookies help

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Speaker 1: them win championships. And because it doesn't happen. Rookies take,

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Speaker 1: Rookies make mistakes, they learn on the fly. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to count on those guys, and especially if you're

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Speaker 1: lot of times. So, um, history telling you it's gonna

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Speaker 1: But Dave's right, Look let's givehim a chance. Let's see

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Speaker 1: what they can do. Um. I still say the biggest, uh,

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Speaker 1: how this league is nowadays. Um, you either have to

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Speaker 1: gonna be He's have to have played top end football.

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Speaker 1: For this team to win football games, it's always about

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position. And then when you're really younging, it's

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Speaker 1: even more so. Who who's the most experienced guy on it? Team?

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Speaker 1: two of those guys. Don't you so? Young? Football? T Pete,

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Speaker 1: I mean listen, look at the I mean, go through

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Speaker 1: the guys who're gonna start your quarterbacks? The second year player,

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Speaker 1: you're right, tackles a second year player. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: running back by committee, which is gonna be rookies in

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Speaker 1: you know, a rookie and one seventh and one seventh

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Speaker 1: round guy, seventh year guy, seventh year Chris Stops. Everyone

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, second year player. You know you're counting on

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Speaker 1: bone bruise. He's a third year player, gonna start a

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Speaker 1: rookie safety? Uh, you know, rookie corner. I mean it's like,

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Speaker 1: it's it's crazy you start. What did I say? Wait?

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Speaker 1: What did I say last week that seven rookies could start?

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Speaker 1: rookies are gonna start. Well, you got Daniel Thomas will start, right,

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Speaker 1: isn't That's one? Today was talking about Josh Jones a

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Speaker 1: this press conference. I'll say that, so then you won't

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Speaker 1: whether it's five. You could eventually you in a week,

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Speaker 1: first and second year players all over the field that

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Speaker 1: I mean, the second year quarterback and Gardner Minshew. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it is shocking how young they they have become and

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Speaker 1: no off season, basically no training camp. You know, you

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Speaker 1: probably the best team in their division. Well, and and uh,

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Speaker 1: a lot of cap room, and a lot of draft picks,

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Speaker 1: not a direct correlation to success. Right, you got draft

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Speaker 1: anymore and the picks back. Okay, we're not playing fantasy

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Speaker 1: this guy to get three extra guys for this. You

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Speaker 1: said it last week, Tony, you said better to go

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Speaker 1: in six and ten going one, and I said that.

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Speaker 1: But my point I said that I'm not gonna step

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Speaker 1: back from that. My point is if I'm sitting here

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Speaker 1: as an fan listening like, oh great we have draft

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Speaker 1: picks and and uh and sary cap, I don't care. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: what was the alternative you don't keep the young guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say what moves did they make that they

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Speaker 1: should have kept an older player and let him play. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's really two different things. For me. Um, I don't

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Speaker 1: They had no choice, Like there wasn't any and there's

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Speaker 1: it's an off the field is year that you don't

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Speaker 1: expect that comes in. You know, that happens, and like

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Speaker 1: how does the team go? You lose a couple in

425
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Speaker 1: a row? Um, you know. So those are all moments

426
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Speaker 1: of adversity that are going to happen during the year

427
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Speaker 1: and how you how you handle it as a team.

428
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Speaker 1: We'll say a lot about the locker room and kind

429
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Speaker 1: of you know where you're gonna end up. But I

430
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Speaker 1: think what Doug saying is, um, every team has its

431
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Speaker 1: own personality, and you know, sometimes like it's on the

432
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Speaker 1: edge and like is this team gonna stick together when

433
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Speaker 1: it's not going well? So like we used to call

434
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Speaker 1: those like Theo's teams that are front runners. Like a

435
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Speaker 1: front running team is like when it's going good for them,

436
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Speaker 1: like everything is going good and they're gonna be good,

437
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna be rolling and they're gonna be high

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Speaker 1: five and making things happen. But at the first sign

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Speaker 1: of something going wrong and not going their way, it

440
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Speaker 1: falls apart. And those are front runners. And you don't

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Speaker 1: like pet you're you're just you're perfectly describing the two

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Speaker 1: thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen Jaguars. Yeah, like eighteen, I

443
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Speaker 1: think they were front runners because like like when everything

444
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Speaker 1: went their way, like everything in seventeen went their way,

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Speaker 1: and so like they were rolling and and they were

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Speaker 1: kind of a little bit there, and they were fun

447
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Speaker 1: and they were loose and they say things every and

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Speaker 1: then when it didn't go their way that they became problems,

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Speaker 1: that's right. And then like at seven you get the eighteen,

450
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Speaker 1: and like they were hot and they were rolling early,

451
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Speaker 1: but you could kind of see some things in the

452
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Speaker 1: training camp, a little pickering and something started happening. But

453
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Speaker 1: you know what, they came out there were three and one.

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Speaker 1: They're rolling and then they go face the chiefs and

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Speaker 1: they get it handed to them, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you here maybe a little chirping back and forth, and

457
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Speaker 1: like it starts falling apart. And that team fell apart

458
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Speaker 1: because they were front runners. They didn't have great character

459
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Speaker 1: in that locker room, in a great locker room where

460
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Speaker 1: they were in it together and they were gonna fight

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Speaker 1: through it and regardless of what the situation was. So

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Speaker 1: and Doug saying he likes his team. He says he

463
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Speaker 1: likes the locker room, he likes the guys, and adversity,

464
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Speaker 1: they're they're starting to see it with adversity. They got

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Speaker 1: six kids on the tea. I mean, yeah, they don't

466
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Speaker 1: know and have no idea, I think. And this is

467
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Speaker 1: what back in the day, as a beat guy, I

468
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Speaker 1: would have went around to all the veterans and found

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Speaker 1: out what they think about keeping all the kids. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's a story. If you're a better player. That would

471
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Speaker 1: have sidled up to Tony and he would have said,

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Speaker 1: I don't really want to say anything, and then off

473
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Speaker 1: the record he would give me the best the money quote.

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Speaker 1: He would have said, it's ridiculous we have these kids

475
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Speaker 1: on this team. Didn't do that story today though, because

476
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Speaker 1: you can't go in the locker room anymore. Oh, I

477
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Speaker 1: know it's hard to do. I don't know how you

478
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Speaker 1: could do that story now. Yeah, But like I mean,

479
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Speaker 1: it goes to I mean, like like the question, like

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Speaker 1: if you were gonna ask the vetor like how do

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Speaker 1: you feel about all these rookies? The next question has

482
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Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, who would you have kept? If

483
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Speaker 1: you're going to keep these guys well, then that would

484
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Speaker 1: have been the story then if you got to if

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Speaker 1: every better. He looked around and said, none of those

486
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Speaker 1: guys that you have the story. Veterans all on board

487
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Speaker 1: with the kids in the locker room, Come on, beat

488
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Speaker 1: work one on one is easy to find the story

489
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Speaker 1: and make that. You can make the story. You just

490
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Speaker 1: gotta ask the questions. And you're right though, j P.

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Speaker 1: You can't go to the locker room. Are you sure

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Speaker 1: that hell can stand outside in the parking lot, can't you?

493
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Speaker 1: I guess at a distance. I mean it is a

494
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Speaker 1: public place. So used to stand at the parking lot

495
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Speaker 1: wait for guys to come out. That was I got

496
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Speaker 1: some of my best stuff in the parking lot. Prisco

497
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Speaker 1: was known to be waiting around when practice was over. Yeah,

498
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Speaker 1: I mean I tell that story all the time. I'd

499
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Speaker 1: stand there and this guy would come out, and that

500
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Speaker 1: guy would come out, and this guy come out, and

501
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Speaker 1: I did I find out stuff? I mean it was

502
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Speaker 1: and you not only that, you got to talk to

503
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Speaker 1: you guys about stuff other than football. You know, you

504
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Speaker 1: can find out what's inside a guy a little bit.

505
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Speaker 1: That's that's what you have to do with a peak guy.

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Speaker 1: I think that's all been lost. It's been lost because

507
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Speaker 1: now it's so structured. He'll talk here, he'll talk here,

508
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Speaker 1: he'll talk there, he'll talk there. It's hard to get

509
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna imagine as a peaky it's hard to get

510
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Speaker 1: to know players. Now I can see and it's hard.

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Speaker 1: You know, it didn't didn't that you get close enough

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Speaker 1: to guys where they threatened to blow your car up, right, Pete?

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Speaker 1: Whenn't that was the are you from the past? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a whole another story. That stuff can't happen anymore.

515
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Speaker 1: That stuff can't happen anymore either because it goes viral

516
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Speaker 1: and the guy would be imprison But yes, it's different.

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Speaker 1: It's just different the way the NFL is now. Even

518
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Speaker 1: as a national reporter, when I go into a team,

519
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Speaker 1: and believe me, when you're a national reporter, you've got

520
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Speaker 1: a camera. Teams will help you out any way they can,

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Speaker 1: But you don't really get it's hard to get to

522
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Speaker 1: know a guy. Uh that Well, it really is. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's a challenge. And I imagine being a

524
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Speaker 1: daily beat guy every single day becomes more of a

525
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Speaker 1: challenge for these guys because of all the structure of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was the fun part, at least for me on

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Speaker 1: the weekly basis, and the buildings. Go in that locker

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529
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Speaker 1: time with some guys that may not get the spotlight

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Speaker 1: a lot and not on not on a microphone, not

531
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Speaker 1: on the record, but you get to know the team

532
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Speaker 1: a little bit better than what are you coming back

533
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Speaker 1: into the building by the way, are you? I was

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Speaker 1: in there for a minute today, but to shoot a

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Speaker 1: television show. But not gonna be in there very often.

536
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Speaker 1: Maybe game day for pregame show. But that's that's really

537
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Speaker 1: about it. As the percent positive gone under the five

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Speaker 1: should start opening up again, I mean, yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna yeah, since we're navigating down. I mean there was

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Speaker 1: you saw it. I saw I did. Stands were packed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's come back in a moment, shall we will discuss

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Speaker 1: Happy Labor Day. J P. Shadrick from the home studio.

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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco from his home studio in South Florida, And

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is not in a CIA bunker today. I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing that Tony is home as well, for the first

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Speaker 1: the holidays. That right, Tony? Is that accurate? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: almost forgot about the show, like it didn't kill Come on, mate,

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Speaker 1: what you do? Did you play? Did you play golf

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Speaker 1: And I got a radio. Where did you play today? Uh?

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Speaker 1: SAgs Country Club? And the score? I finished birdie, bogey, birdie.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about how you finish. I finished birdie bogey, birdie.

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Speaker 1: But I shot one oh four. Come on, I didn't

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Speaker 1: one thing I really missed about Jacksonville's the golf courses.

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Speaker 1: There's so many of them. You don't play down there, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do, but it's hard to play. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: of golf courses. Oh they don't. No, No, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I never would have thought about it like that. I

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Speaker 1: never would have thought about it like that. We've you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously we've touched on the youth on this roster, but

634
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: then early in the show, we we did mention the

635
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: offensive line is the most veteran of the groups. For

636
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: this Jags team was not close they starting what's that, Pete?

637
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: It's not close either because when you look at it,

638
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: what they have seven seven and what is can now

639
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: the six cam Robinsons and cans in a sixth yeah

640
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: and then yeah to sevens and experience on the interior. Well,

641
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's supposed to be the strength, right is it?

642
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: Has it been a Strength three strength? No? But it's

643
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: a great point, Like you bring up a good point

644
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: that I struggle with it because I have and I've

645
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: gotten criticized for it because I've gone to bat for

646
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: these guys and said, this is a good group. It's

647
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a top ten group in the NFL. And

648
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: and and it's the same group. No changes have been made.

649
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: And if you look at them, I loved them all

650
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: as individuals, like individually like they're like you would think

651
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: they like. They've got a good group, especially with the

652
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: right tackle, a really good player. We were in the

653
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: middle of any discussion about the offensive line for the

654
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Pete Tony JP disappeared. You here hear us? Can

655
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: you hear us? J? I got you? Yeah, happened? What happened?

656
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, man? You left us. We all left.

657
00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: We're all gone talking to each other. You here, remember

658
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: what we were talking about. We're talking about the offensive

659
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: And then then I asked you about a j Can

660
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: and I said, is Can he's inconsistent? But is it game?

661
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: The game or play to play? What do you think

662
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: about that? Oh? So I think a j Can is

663
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: like the perfect like picture of what like he like

664
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: tells the story of what the Jaguar offensive line is like.

665
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: At times it looks good, at times it looks really bad,

666
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: and so inconsistency makes it difficult, um to count on it.

667
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: And I think A j is like a perfect example

668
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: of that. Times you watch and he plays games, he's physical,

669
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: he's good, he's you know, athletic, you know, you love

670
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: everything about him. But then and all of a sudden,

671
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: you watch a couple of plays or a series or

672
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: even a game, You're like, what the heck is that?

673
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: Like he's leaning, he's reaching, he's you know, grabbing instead

674
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: of bringing his feet. Um and so. But I think

675
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: that's really the story of this offensive line Pete last year,

676
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: Like I got so frustrated with it because at times

677
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: like you saw glimpses of what it could be and

678
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: then at other times you're like, oh my gosh and

679
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: so um and I'll say what I did. I was

680
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: I think I'm not sure JP you heard this or not,

681
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: but I was saying how this offensive line has to

682
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: be the unit that basically puts the team on its

683
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: shoulders and says that here we go, like they have

684
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: to dominate games if they want to win. This year

685
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: they had the Jaguars offensive line has to be dominant?

686
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: What about um? Was there any if you watch any

687
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: of this tape Tony playing guard behind can Yeah, a

688
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: little bit. He's he's a big body. He's like a

689
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: big man. I think he's has he has a chance

690
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: of the sleep. He's still learning. Um, but I like

691
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: his size. Um. You know, he looks like a powerful

692
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: human being. You know, it's so hard to tell just

693
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: practice wise, but like I think he has um. He

694
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: has a chance. He has a chance to be a

695
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: good offensive garden. But not this year. You don't think

696
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: he plays this year? Oh you never know, I mean

697
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: injury or no, outside of an injury, no, pete, I

698
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: don't think. Okay, yeah, something to watch and then of

699
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: course you have shot. Lee is a backup on the

700
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: interior that offensive line as well. He's been around for

701
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: about twenty two years and never plays. He'll he'll jump

702
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: in there when when needed, when there's an injury or

703
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: something in the interior. He's played some guard, he's played

704
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: some center. He's a guy that can do it. Yeah,

705
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: I know we can do it, but he I mean,

706
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: it's like, and my wrong has he's only been here

707
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: I think seven or eight years if I'm not mistaken,

708
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: But it seems like he's been here since Tony playing.

709
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: He was he was a backup on your line. Tony No,

710
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: but you bring it. It's an interesting point, Pete, from

711
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: the standpoint of because you don't don't think you see

712
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: this very often. I Shatley has been on the team

713
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: seven years, and I love he's a great guy. But

714
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: if you're have ever spent any time with them, like

715
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: literally salted the earth. Just a good dude, um. But

716
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Speaker 1: you often don't see guys who just backups like that's

717
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: what they are, like make it for like seven straight years.

718
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: You usually to see a team that tries to go

719
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: younger and try to develop other guys in those positions,

720
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: and somehow Shatley just fights him off every year, or

721
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: or he becomes a stor that developmental guy becomes a starter.

722
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: He's worked a couple of years as a backup, and

723
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: then he becomes the starter for whatever reason. He's just

724
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: a career back up. But he doesn't go away, or

725
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: they'll go or they go sign the big free agent

726
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: norwell you know, and and put him in there. Right. Yeah,

727
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I like, I'm glad Shadley's the thing. He's

728
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: a good dude. Well, they keep they kept him, Richardson

729
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: and bart As, so they're at eight. They have eight.

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Speaker 1: Then right, they didn't keep a night eight actor. Is

731
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: there nine on the roster though? Is there ninth? I

732
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: didn't think they did. I mean that's when I looked

733
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: at it. When I looked and saw eight, that's what

734
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: I saw. The double check here, I mean, was there

735
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: a young guy that they liked because they had some

736
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: young defensive players they like. They clearly kept the undrafted kid. Uh,

737
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman, they don't. I think they only offensive lineman, right, yes,

738
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: but they kept the undrafted defensive linemen. Yeah. And remember

739
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: there's a little more flexibility of moving guys off practice

740
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: squad this year too. I don't know if that changes

741
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: your perspect perspective, but Tony, when you played, I think

742
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: you kept nine off of the line. Uh yeah, we

743
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: usually did eight, eight or nine? Yeah, seven active on

744
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: game day. Um hey, let's see. So get through this

745
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: at some point. But I love it. Uh, do we

746
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: have it? Like we spent a long time on the offense,

747
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: but looking at the defense? Are we spend time talking

748
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: about the defense coming up here? Well? I was gonna

749
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: go to that in just a moment after this reminder

750
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: that you've got to get ready for the debut of

751
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: Jags at Home this Sunday a second screen viewing experience

752
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754
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,680
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755
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: Tony's request was flipping to defense. We were going there anyway,

756
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: by the way, real quick, how many fans are going

757
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: to be at the game? Fifteen thousand? Is that what

758
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: it was? I think there's are So it's sixteen seventeen

759
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: thousand in that ballpark? Is the capacity of what do

760
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: you say of their normal crowd or the stadium? The

761
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: normal crowd, they'll have fewer people than Baker County have

762
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: the other day. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Hey,

763
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: at least they have fans. Some of these teams have none. Well,

764
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: so that's the point too. It's like Thursday night will

765
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: be fans in Kansas City, but then Sunday the Jags

766
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: are the only home team with fans of the entire league.

767
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: Why is that? Is that any state deal? Yeah, you won't.

768
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: You won't have fans in California until two thousand and

769
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: twenty three. I think the way that stay I mean, yeah,

770
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: it's just weird. Like if Miami and Tampa were home,

771
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: they would have fans in the stands. Yeah, it's Florida

772
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: right right, I'm surprising up letting them sell out, let

773
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: them all in like Alabama. It's like Alabama and Jordan, Mississippi,

774
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: coul all in, all fans in the stands everywhere, Come

775
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: hell or high water, there will be college football in

776
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: the Deep South. That's how that's gonna work. All right,

777
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: let's start on defense here, and you know I want

778
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: to start up front, So I'm gonna start up front.

779
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: In the comment the other day that from Todd wash

780
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: Tony that Caleb and Chason is much stronger than they

781
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: I guess anticipated in training camp, and he's going to

782
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: play defensive end. That's going to be his position. He's

783
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: not going to be a linebacker, at least to start.

784
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: So there are moments where you could see Alan and

785
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: Chason on the field they feel like he's strong enough

786
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: to play maybe on that other side on the defensive line.

787
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting development. Yes, he's still a rookie,

788
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: but there's I think there maybe hoping a little bit

789
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: more that he can perform more than they anticipated, I guess,

790
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: and in his rookie year, yeah, I guess. I mean,

791
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If it all depends what kind of

792
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: defense Todd wash wants to run, which is I find ironic?

793
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: Remember all offseason everyone was convinced, I mean, all the

794
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: people and the smart people said they're going to a

795
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: three four. Sources they're going to a three four. They're

796
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: going to a three four. At least the practice I've

797
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: seen JP, it's still the same old defense that we've

798
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: always seen. It looks like a three four to me. Um,

799
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: you don't play seven guys in the front anyways. But

800
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 1: my point is saying that is it's just it's interesting,

801
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: I mean, which leads me to there are four three teams.

802
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: Can you go with Chase On and Josh Allen in

803
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: first and second down against a two tight end set

804
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: or a one tight end set? I can Chase On

805
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: hold up and a double team between an offensive tackle

806
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: and a tight end. Are they gonna? I mean? Okay,

807
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: But my point is always used to put in Cockway

808
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 1: at the open dead and try to get him away

809
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: from that. They used to flip side, so Clays was

810
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: your big end and go Way was your open side. Well,

811
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna go with Josh Allen and Jason I mean

812
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's pounds sixty pounds. Is he now going to

813
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: be your big end on the field at the same time,

814
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: back and on third down, never on first second, never

815
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: on the first and second down. You're right, don't have

816
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: a big end, then smooth. I mean you can see

817
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: you start smooth because he can play in the big end.

818
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: You gonna remember almost your plays. You're gonna be in

819
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: the nickel. Anyways, Well, I understand that people this team

820
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: couldn't stop the run last year. So where team's gonna

821
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: come out and do last them? And so and then

822
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 1: which leads to my next question, is I mean tam

823
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's no official when's the official

824
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: injury report come out JP Wednesday? Wednesday? The first day Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

825
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: But we haven't seen Taven since he had the bone bruise. Well,

826
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Doug Morone said today in his press conference after practice

827
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: that over the weekend Taven was and he did practice today.

828
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: Now there's no status report today. Obviously we'll find out

829
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: for sure if you practiced today, he'll put it down. Okay,

830
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: So how did they line up on first down then Tony,

831
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's gonna be Avery and day Uh.

832
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean my guess is Avery and Taban and then

833
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go Josh Allen and I Smooth

834
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: as your big end. I guess. So the guy you drafted, Okay,

835
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: then if you have the three linebackers, he's not playing

836
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: the strong side spot Chase at all. I guess not

837
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: Wash explained that he won't be linebacker. But that means

838
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: you you took a guy that you took in the

839
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: in the top what how many? What? What? What? What?

840
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: Where was he pick? What number was he was twine

841
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: or whatever? Nineteen? He's not gonna be barely gonna be

842
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: on the field there, No, it's it's he didn't have

843
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: the same role Josh Allen did last year. Josh Allen

844
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: put in the snaps, the snaps because he's only on

845
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: their nickel. Yeah, I think see, I think you could

846
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: have played him at the strong side linebacker. Didn't put

847
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: him on with his hand on the ground in passing situations,

848
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: they're not going to um. I just think it's interesting.

849
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: So like it, maybe Todd thinks that they can line

850
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: up with those two. You know two smaller ends plays

851
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: a strong side, so when they go on the field,

852
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: they have three linebackers in the field. Who's starting at

853
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: the strong side there, I guess is Leon Jacobs mhm right, JP, Yeah,

854
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean that would be that would be mine. Yeah,

855
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: I personally I would have found the way to get

856
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: Chase on on the field more, particularly as a young player. Well,

857
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: you said the same thing last I would have and

858
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: I still believe that maybe they maybe they were playing

859
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: possum with us. Well you're only again, you're you're nickeled

860
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: seventy alm stacks anyway, so he's gonna play. But I

861
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: would have found the way to get if we say

862
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: that if he like, don't he said, if teams ran

863
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: the ball under his throat, they're not gonna get Well,

864
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: that's the big issue. I wouldn't say if. In my opinion,

865
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: that's a big issue. Can they get passing situations where

866
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: you can show off Josh Allen and Chase Song's ability

867
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: to get after be athletic and get to the quarterback, Well,

868
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: they can run last year and he had and Josh

869
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: Allen had double digit sacks as a rookie, So I

870
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: know they have a lot of confidence in Devon. Hamilton's

871
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: on the interior as well. And I don't know, Tony

872
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: you said earlier you had not been out there. He

873
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: is a broad guy, He's not He's not like fluffy

874
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: like he's just built. He's a big guy. You know.

875
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: I think they have a lot of confidence what he

876
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Speaker 1: could bring. I watched thet I watched anybody type remind

877
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: you of to many from any player or somebody big,

878
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: big body type like that. He's just the big square body.

879
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean he's just a big thick you know, not

880
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Speaker 1: like like not Chris Jones big right, No, remember like

881
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Speaker 1: uh he was this He's not remember like Chester mcglo

882
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: big square block. Yeah, he's like a big thick chested

883
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: square Yeah. Was like he was like a fire hydrant

884
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: because I was like the real the size of a

885
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: human being. He was square. Yeah. And so he's a

886
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: big human being. JP's right, and he listen, he's gonna

887
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: be good against the run. He's a big physical guy. Um,

888
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 1: you know, so I think he'll be okay on first

889
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: a second down? Uh, how do they rotate up? How

890
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: does the road how do the guy who plays in rotas?

891
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: I think it'll be Hamilton's avery rotting at the one

892
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: technique and I think it's gonna be journey again and

893
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: uh David a three technique and then the ends will

894
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: be smooth. Chase on Alan, Yeah, that's my guess. What

895
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: about Gastus? Does he play? Uh? Maybe maybe he's your

896
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: big end, the big end. Yeah, you know, he didn't

897
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: look I mean he's coming off that a C L

898
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: and the practices that I watched, it didn't look like

899
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: it was all the way back. I guess it would

900
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: be the best way to say it. So in other words,

901
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: he didn't look right. No, just not explosive like like

902
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: not like I mean, it looked bad. He was a

903
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: pretty he was a pretty good player before the a C.

904
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, that's what That's what. He didn't

905
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: look like that guy JP. You watched him, I mean,

906
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: would you agree? Yeah? I had a little he was

907
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908
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: he was maybe just not as confident as he as

909
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Speaker 1: he should be early in campidly, So let's come back.

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975
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977
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979
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982
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Speaker 1: The big stories of the day, though The final fifty

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990
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Speaker 1: season or less in the National Football League. But there

991
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: are some key veterans obviously on this team. Three eight

992
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,440
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00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: A lot of those guys are on the offensive line.

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00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,399
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Speaker 1: a guy from your own program in. Um. You know

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Speaker 1: we were talking. We didn't get what's that. It's a

1001
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,520
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Speaker 1: down to thirty three, but he liked about another ten

1004
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,880
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Speaker 1: He had the owner of the team who had a

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1008
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,800
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Speaker 1: True story. That's where taxi squad. That's where the taxi

1010
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 1: squad comes from. How about that? It was I guess

1011
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: that was legal in the league back then. Well he

1012
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: kind of skirted the rules and then they made it

1013
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: into something where everybody could do it. But can you

1014
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: imagine a roster with only thirty three guys? Yeah? Wow, um, interesting,

1015
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Speaker 1: You know, this is the time and we were touching

1016
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: on defense and we gotta pick the season coming up

1017
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: to by the way, that's gonna happen here fairly soon

1018
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: here in the segment. But let's finish up our defensive

1019
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: conversation from last hour. That's right, I know, I know. Um,

1020
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Speaker 1: we didn't touch on the secondary that much. We touched

1021
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: on safety and what they could do in place of Harrison.

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Speaker 1: They like Josh Jones. It sounds like according to Doug

1023
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: Morown today, but you look at the cornerback spot. D J.

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00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: Hayden is a vet on the interior at corner. But

1025
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: you got some youth there too, third year player and

1026
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon who hasn't played a lot of football in

1027
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: his career here and then a rookie and C. J.

1028
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Speaker 1: Henderson in the first round on the other side, and

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Speaker 1: then after that there's a lot of rookies in depth

1030
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: in the cornerback room. To Pete, that's a that's a

1031
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: lot of young guns running around. Really is I mean

1032
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Speaker 1: you know what they keep? Um Josiah Scott they kept

1033
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: Farco Um. Is that the the only two rookie corners

1034
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: they kept? Yeah? I think so. But that's a young group.

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Speaker 1: I mean C J. Anderson starting. Herndon is not an

1036
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: old guy either. I mean that the only guy there

1037
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Speaker 1: with any experience is Hayden really I mean not experienced,

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Speaker 1: but because Herd didn't played last year, but real experience.

1039
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Speaker 1: So it's they're gonna be challenged early and often. And

1040
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Speaker 1: they get a Philip Rivers this week. I mean, does

1041
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: he know how to find corners that can pick on?

1042
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Speaker 1: Of course he does well. And here's the thing. I

1043
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Speaker 1: mean last year, one year ago, we're sitting here, Trey

1044
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Speaker 1: Herndon was the fourth corner from this roster, and no

1045
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: one was thinking like, hey, we need Tray Herndon, like

1046
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Speaker 1: be like, are the guy? And because of what happened

1047
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1048
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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden you look at it, you're

1049
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Speaker 1: starting Trey Herndon, and he's the widely vette of the

1050
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Speaker 1: two corners because the other ones are working. Um, I

1051
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Speaker 1: mean they are super young, not a lot of experience,

1052
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how they match up,

1053
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: because you know, it's amazing Tony is Wilson will have them.

1054
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, Wilson will have the most experience

1055
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: right beside Hayden the corner. But of the four guys

1056
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: who are announced the starters, Wilson I think has the

1057
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: most experience. Yes, pretty amazing, that's amazing. And he I

1058
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: mean like on the on the seventeen team, he was

1059
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: like a backup, deep backup, he was a backup special

1060
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: teams guy. Yeah, barely. There's questions like he would be

1061
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: like he was like the undrafted guy who made it,

1062
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: like like end of the roster making it. It's amazing.

1063
01:00:54,280 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Now, if Henderson's good and herdn't improves, Hayden's

1064
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: a good nickel corner, then they'll be okay. But those

1065
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: are big questions, those are major questions. What do you

1066
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: have questions at safety too? I mean Jared Wilson was

1067
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: a special teams guy a couple of years ago. See

1068
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: I always thought he would be fine if the guy

1069
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: next to him was Okay, I never thought Ronnie Harrison

1070
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: was very good. I'll be honest with you, I never

1071
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: really did. I may make a big thump every once

1072
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: in a while, missed the signments, miss tackles. So I

1073
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: think if you had a really good player next to Wilson,

1074
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: I think he'd be fine. Is the two safe? You

1075
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: know the other safety? But the problem is now what

1076
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: they got to the other safety? And and JP. You

1077
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: made it sound like that they kind of hinted that

1078
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: Jones would start there. Yeah, it sounded like it from

1079
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: from what Doug Brown said today. They love the guy there. Wow,

1080
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: it's it's the turnaround of that secondary's incredible. Well, and

1081
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: here's the thing we're all since he's been also worried

1082
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: about the um up front, you know, the deaders one.

1083
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: Even when you started diving into the secondary, you're like,

1084
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: wait a second, there's a lot of questions there as well.

1085
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a lot of young guys and

1086
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: that in surprises. You know, you look around, uh, you

1087
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: know with Ronnie Harrison not being there anymore, he's a

1088
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: guy last year going in, Hey, we got a good

1089
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: safety group feel felt good about getting rid of Buried

1090
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: Church and Uh and Uh Gibson because you had Ronnie Harrison.

1091
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean twelve months later, you're trading them and getting

1092
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: rid of them because you want to go um with

1093
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: the most I mean a much younger group. Ronnie Josh

1094
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: Jones actually has more experience in Ronnie Harrison correct correct,

1095
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: more years in the league. But does he have more

1096
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: starts to No, I don't let me look, I don't

1097
01:02:55,600 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 1: think so. But he started, No, He's always started all games. Yeah,

1098
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: so just because you are in the league longer, wasn't

1099
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: have more experience. No. We can make that argument for

1100
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: Jared Wilson too. By the way, how many starts to

1101
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: see having his career now? No, thirty twenty, I'd say

1102
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: it's in the better has more than you think. You guess,

1103
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: I'll look, but yeah, it's it's it's a position that

1104
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: totally you know the two safeties would flip. I mean

1105
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: the ones that played in seventeen because they were older

1106
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: guys that you signed, so you knew they were going out.

1107
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: But you, like Tony said, you thought you thought that

1108
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison will be one of those safeties to take. Oh,

1109
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: so last year Josh Jones was in Dallas. Did he

1110
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: get cut or get hurt? What happened? I think he

1111
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: was a late add I think if I'm not I

1112
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: gotta remember that one. Hey, by the way, Jared Wilson,

1113
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: how many starts eight yep, so that that's kind of

1114
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: the same argument for him. Well, let's uh, it is

1115
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: what I would have I thought they might start the

1116
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: rookie at safety, but they probably want a little more

1117
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: experience back there. And and if I remember right, Thomas

1118
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: had a little something during training camp injury wise, health wise,

1119
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: nothing major Daniel Thomas. We're talking about the rookie, so

1120
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: but he's obviously available on the roster and everything, but

1121
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: I think there might have been a little something there.

1122
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: Let's pick the schedule now, guys, we're gonna this is

1123
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: the one Tony loves to do because he goes on

1124
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: record and it becomes a viral moment on social media

1125
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: when Tony uh not only picks the Jaguars in many games,

1126
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: which is great, you know, but then he doubles down

1127
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: halfway home during the middle of the season and this

1128
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: is where it all begins though. And Tony, we'll get

1129
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: your take on We're gonna go game by games, so

1130
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: keep telling yourselves, guys. Let's start Week one. The Jaguars

1131
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: host the Indianapolis Colts at t I A. Bankfield, Tony.

1132
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: What do you got? No, Pete goes first. I'm the

1133
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: star of the show, so I'm going after Pete goes.

1134
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: You're the star of the show. Are you talking about?

1135
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: You're the star of you? You're the star only in

1136
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: your own mind I can say that. I think I

1137
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: think the Colts win. The Colts will win, and it'll

1138
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: be close. I think it's gonna be that's my lock, close,

1139
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: really close. I think the heat's gonna bother the Colts.

1140
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a tough situation. People in

1141
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,439
Speaker 1: the crowd will get behind the Jaguars, and I think

1142
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:59,479
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be close. Yeah, well, it's gonna

1143
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: be interesting game. I think it's a slugfest actually, And

1144
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: I think what happens is this offensive line takes him

1145
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: to the victory and they beat up the front seven.

1146
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: I think they run it. They shocked the world um

1147
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: with the run game, much like they did in seventeen

1148
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: when they came out against the Texans. No one thought

1149
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: they could run the ball they did, and I think

1150
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: the offensive line has a big day. He will be

1151
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: a factor, will wear out the Colts, and Gardner Minshew

1152
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: will take him on a game winning drive at the

1153
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: end with a thirty thirty eight year yard Josh Lambo

1154
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: kicked to win by two. Wow, that's what I'm saying now.

1155
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing JP that he turned a flipped the

1156
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: switch like like an hour and a half. I do

1157
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: not know what you're talking about, JP does week to

1158
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: the Jaguars had to disan stadium in Nashville to face

1159
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. No fans in the stands here, Pete, Well,

1160
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: they played so well in that place in their history

1161
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: that leads me to believe they're gonna play really well

1162
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: up there. Uh. I can see Henry going for two

1163
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: twenty again or something like that. Titans win it by ten. Yeah.

1164
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: I love this matchup with the no fans. I think

1165
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: works to the Jaguars benefit. I still think they probably

1166
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: I just can't get it done at Dianna. I think

1167
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: they just barely lose, probably one or two point lost

1168
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: in the Titans. Well, I got a mowing too. You

1169
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: got them one in ye all right? Let's go to

1170
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: week three. It's a Thursday night nationally broadcast game NFL Network.

1171
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: The Jaguars entertained the Miami Dolphins at PM Eastern time

1172
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: p that's their first victory. They're gonna get it in

1173
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: front of the national audience. And uh I think Miami

1174
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: still rebuilding. Who knows, maybe two is in by then.

1175
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars win that game tight, but the

1176
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: win by two or three. Now it won't be close.

1177
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: I think Jaguars win by two or three scores, dominating performance.

1178
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: The Dolphins are gonna be everyone after this game. After

1179
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: week three 're gonna be asking the question or the

1180
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: Dolphins tanking and the Jags pushed for the playoffs. So wait,

1181
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: so you have them two and one after three weeks,

1182
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: they'll be talking about the postseason in September. Based on

1183
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: your logic, Okay, okay, another Thursday, another Thursday night game

1184
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshew doing this doing the guns on the

1185
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: desk after the game on NFL Network j JP. If

1186
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: we put Tony Basselli on the line detective test that

1187
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: we go, yeah, well, we're gonna we're gonna play along.

1188
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: Let's move this along fairly quickly. Here guys at Cincinnati

1189
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: Week four, pet Bengals win the game two and two

1190
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. I think Joe Burrow by then will

1191
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: be settled in as a quarterback. I like the Bengals

1192
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: full to Okay, yeah, that means the Jaguars are one three,

1193
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: one of three. That's right, one of three. I forgot,

1194
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: I got, I got. I thought I was two and one.

1195
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: I was all discombribulated over your picks because I know

1196
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: what you really do, I know what you're really I

1197
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: can't keep up what you really thinking, what you're actually picking.

1198
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: So it's hard to do. For Jack. Give me three

1199
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: and one. They're gonna come out of the first quarter

1200
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: of the season three and one had the real deal.

1201
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: They'll dominant for the youthful. The youthful Jaguar comes or

1202
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: three and one going into week five. No, they're not

1203
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: as young as Joe Burrow. Joe Burrows young too. If

1204
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: you have sella, you have a three and one. Okay,

1205
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: let's go. We're getting in October now at Houston. I

1206
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: don't think the Texans are that good. They'll hang around

1207
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: in the game, but the Texans will find a way

1208
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: to win it. With the Watson drive late. They win

1209
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 1: by a touchdown. How about that? Yeah? I think this

1210
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 1: is like, this is revenge gate. This is a big

1211
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 1: deal because Gardner feels like he got robbed. The should

1212
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: have gone for They shouldn't. They should have kicked the field,

1213
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: gone gone to overtime where she would have won it.

1214
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: Last year they went for two and four, Net couldn't

1215
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: get it in mid She wants revenge and he's gonna

1216
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: get it. They win by seven. Six weeks six, the

1217
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: Jaguars host the Detroit Lions. Feet what do you got

1218
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: for us? Quickly? Yeah? I don't. I don't think they're

1219
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: gonna be able to slow down Stafford that passing game.

1220
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: I think the Lions will go in there and win

1221
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: the game. Lions win. They scored thirty three in that game.

1222
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: Very great. Wow, Yeah, I actually think I think. I

1223
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: think Jaguars get caught sleepwalking a little bit. We get

1224
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: all fold themselves to four and ones to lead the

1225
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: NFC South, and uh, they have a letdown. I think

1226
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: the uh Lion to win next week. Week seven is

1227
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: the bye week. Jaguars win when and then the week

1228
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: the Chargers in l A p uh that Chargers defense

1229
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: is too good. I think they're gonna struggle out there.

1230
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: They've always struggled out West, They'll continue to do that.

1231
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: Chargers win the game. Yeah, it's it's a definitely home

1232
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: field advantage for the Chargers because they're used to playing

1233
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: in front of fans, and so they're gonna be very

1234
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: used to Hey, they can say that about the Jaguars, dude,

1235
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: so um but no, no, no, derwin James hurts that team.

1236
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: Uh still be good on defense though, I think that.

1237
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers um play well but not enough.

1238
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: I think Minshew continues his West Coast magic and he

1239
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 1: started last year up in Oakland. Jaguars win Gus Bradley

1240
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: revenge the Jags first visit to so FI Stadium in

1241
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,959
Speaker 1: l A week nine. Well, the JAG's got the revenge

1242
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: win apparently in a few weeks earlier in Houston. How

1243
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: about at home against the Eexan's pete. I think they

1244
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: win that game. That's when those young kids start growing

1245
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: up a little bit. I think Minshew will have a

1246
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: good game. I don't believe in the Texans defense. I like,

1247
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: I like the Jaguars to win that game. That gets

1248
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: their second win. So yeah, so you have met two

1249
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: and six. Yeah, right now, I'm five and two to it.

1250
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: They win, They're gonna be the talk of the of

1251
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: the country after the first half of the season. Six

1252
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 1: and two not only leave the NC South, but a

1253
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: chance to have home field advantage unbelievable. And if the

1254
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: Jaguars at this point are six and two, then all

1255
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden, there'll be a lot of flexed games

1256
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: coming up on the schedule because the next week the

1257
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: Jaguars are at lambeau Field against the Green Bay Packers. Pete,

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Speaker 1: what do you oh, that's blowout city Rogers lights them up. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They Packers win by I'm not your Aaron Rodgers will

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Speaker 1: still be your quarterback. Might be Drew Love or what's

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Speaker 1: his name? Quarterback? He's the third quarterback, by the way,

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Speaker 1: he didn't even beat out Tim Boyle. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: like what's his dame, Jim what's his name? Jordan ub Um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like the Packers again, I think it was young

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Speaker 1: Jaguar team gets a little ahead of themselves. Um probably

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Speaker 1: loses about a wait field ball game gets the Packers

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Speaker 1: over the top. Uh, two and seven. We gotta get

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Speaker 1: through the rest of these quick. We could eleven home

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Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh. Pete, No, not winning that one either, Tony

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Speaker 1: always be Pittsburgh easy. Win home against the Browns, the

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Speaker 1: Ronny Harrison revenge game, Pete, I think they win that game.

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Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars win that game and get their

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Speaker 1: third victory. The Browns are fraud. Jags win at the

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Speaker 1: Vikings the Unique and Gay revenge game. He might sound

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Speaker 1: the galler horn himself, Pete. Yeah, well, they've never every

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Speaker 1: time that they've gone up there, and they've had problems

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Speaker 1: when they're short history, and they will have more problems.

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Speaker 1: Blowout City Vikings big. Yeah, I don't like that game.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings win home against the Titans. Week fourteen December.

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Speaker 1: They win that game. By that time, their defense is

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Speaker 1: playing better. They'll slow down Henry. They win that game

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Speaker 1: for fourth victory. Yeah, I can shoot the Titans. The

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Speaker 1: Titans aren't mentally tough. I think they're living off last

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Speaker 1: year's Acto legs, and I think they have a tough year.

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Speaker 1: Jags win Wow at the Ravens. Tough game in Baltimore, Pete,

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 1: that's ugly. Lamar Jackson will destroy them. Ugly game blowout.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, I don't love the matchup. I think it's

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Speaker 1: closer than any one thinks, But I think Baltimore gets

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Speaker 1: to win. Ultimately, Home gets the Bears in Week sixteen,

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Speaker 1: they have a legitimate chance to win that. That could

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Speaker 1: be Nick Foles Revens game. By then. Um, I still

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Speaker 1: think they win. That's a game they win at home.

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Speaker 1: They win that game. Oh, the no brainer. They win

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Speaker 1: that game, especially if Big Folds is starting. And then

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Speaker 1: weeks seventeen Jags at the Colts, Well, the Colts will

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Speaker 1: be playing for the division and seeding. The Guards will

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Speaker 1: be playing for nothing. Colt to win it five and eleven.

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Speaker 1: Where what do I have met right now? JP, I've

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Speaker 1: lost track. I only think have light around right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. I'm going for so far. So

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Speaker 1: this will be a game that will be on Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football, just so you know, because the winner, the

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Speaker 1: winner wins the division. The loser goes to the wild card.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's a little too much for Minshew

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Speaker 1: and his crew. I think they end up losing and

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Speaker 1: end up at eleven and five, so they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to travel the wild card path to get to the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl on Tony Yeah, yep. If they get to

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Speaker 1: eleven wins, it will be one of the greatest football

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Speaker 1: miracles of all time. There's no chick Okay, what do

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Speaker 1: you think the odds of the Jaguards eleven games in?

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can even get that bet. Bro,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, eleven If that's the JP, this is

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Speaker 1: the worst he's ever been with this stuff. What do

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Speaker 1: you feel listing? If they're winning every that he gets extended?

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Speaker 1: Get ready? That's right? What do you mean there's no

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Speaker 1: chance if they won eleven and five and went through

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, which will never happen, then everybody would come

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Speaker 1: back right and minshe would clearly be your quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, I'm counting on maybe. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: let's come back. We have wasted a perfectly good ten

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Speaker 1: minutes picking the schedule. We're back with social questions more

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Speaker 1: Monday Jaguars Happy Hour Labor Day edition j P. Shadrick Prisco,

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Glad you're along with us. I hope you're

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Speaker 1: having a nice holiday. Let's get into the social questions today, fellas.

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Speaker 1: Let's start off but at traffic of Jason. How's the

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01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: offensive wine looking this year? Health and talent wise, Tony,

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Speaker 1: you want to take this one. Yeah, health is good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they really have a dining in camp, so

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Speaker 1: I mean they're healthy. That's good news. Um, they are

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Speaker 1: talent wide. I mean I think I said it earlier. Individually,

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Speaker 1: I think they have talent. Can they pull together? Can

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Speaker 1: they be consistent? That's gonna be the big test for

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Speaker 1: them this year. Yeah, I agree. Again, it's all about

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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson for me. If he takes the next step,

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Speaker 1: they should be pretty good on the offensive line. I

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Speaker 1: think Taylor is gonna be a big time player, but

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Speaker 1: consistency from week to week and play to play has

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Speaker 1: to be better across the ward. Yeah, move along, so

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Speaker 1: we'll find out less than a week from today. The

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Speaker 1: next question from at flash ta ta. Why do people

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Speaker 1: assume it's a good decision to draft Trevor Lawrence when

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01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: the old line is still a problem. Obviously this person

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01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: thinks differently than than what you do. Tell me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you have the first overall picked, the

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Speaker 1: reason you picked Trevor Lawrence is because he's the best

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Speaker 1: player we're assuming. I mean, based on everything we know today,

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Speaker 1: he will be the best player in all of college

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Speaker 1: football and possibly a generational quarterback. In most people's minds.

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Speaker 1: So that's why you picked him pretty easy. And the

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Speaker 1: great quarterbacks cure your ills and and if you have

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Speaker 1: ills on defense and its on offense, they will cure

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Speaker 1: him for you. So to pick a quarterback, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: agree that the one the one position they can't cure

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Speaker 1: completely is the offensive line. But Brady helped make his

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Speaker 1: offensive line and Peyton, right, I agree with that, right,

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Speaker 1: get the ball out well, you know, help yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the other argument to those is Indie right, they

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01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 1: didn't give him enough help on that old line and

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Speaker 1: he got banged up and beat up and out of

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Speaker 1: the league. And what's seven years? Oh, Andrew Luck, Andrew Luck. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he got beat up pretty good early in

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Speaker 1: his career there. But like for example, I'll go back

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Speaker 1: to the Colt offensive line to Peyton was there, Tark

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Speaker 1: Glam was a pretty good player but for the most part,

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Speaker 1: and Jeff Saturday is pretty good center, but for the

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Speaker 1: most part, that was just a group made up of

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Speaker 1: guys well and New and New England is New England

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Speaker 1: ever had really really dominant offensive lineman Tony No, but

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Speaker 1: good ones did really well coach a scheme that corrects

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Speaker 1: like Matt Lhite was a good player, and they were

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Speaker 1: good players. They weren't dominant players. That ball got out quick. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean you look at how that whole system was

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Speaker 1: built around Peyton Um Howard mud who just recently passed

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Speaker 1: away after a motorcycle accident. Great offensive line coach. I mean,

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Speaker 1: everything was in concert together, meeting like the depth of

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Speaker 1: Peyton's drops, how they set they knew the ball is

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Speaker 1: gonna be out. You know, we wanted to protect him

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Speaker 1: inside out Um and so yeah, I think it's great

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Speaker 1: quarterback play. A offensive coordinator and offensive line coach that

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Speaker 1: are in uh, working in tandem, which would shock people.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't always happen, uh, And so the combination made them,

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01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, good players played great together. That was my

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Speaker 1: whole point, Pete, about this offensive line. The offense a

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Speaker 1: lot isn't always just about great individual talent. It's how

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Speaker 1: the five worked together and play together in the system.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny that when we talk about the

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Speaker 1: offensive lines and the great teams and stuff, if you

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Speaker 1: go back, I can look at with the great the

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Speaker 1: teams with great quarterbacks. For example, when Elway was in Denver,

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Speaker 1: he had Gary Zimmerman, which was a really good, but

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Speaker 1: he didn't have them all the time. Tony Jones, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: his life was pretty good. Yeah, Nyalen, Yeah, his line

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01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: was pretty good. Was a good player, Bill Jim Kelly

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01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:24,719
Speaker 1: had a great offensive life, by the way, Joe Montana,

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Speaker 1: Harris Barton, Jesse's a polo. I mean you'd go down

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Speaker 1: the Keith van van Horst, Yeah, yeah, they Yeah, he

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01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: had a good offensive line. Frank quill in the center

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Speaker 1: was a good player. Yeah, he had Montana. There were good.

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Speaker 1: Most of the good teams, the really good teams have

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Speaker 1: good offensive to our next question from at Hoddari eleven,

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Speaker 1: what exactly does the mic communicate prior to the snap

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Speaker 1: of the ball, In addition, what is being said to

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Speaker 1: him from the sideline into his helmet speaker. Well, the

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Speaker 1: mike is the middle linebacker. For anyone who doesn't know

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Speaker 1: the terminology, the way the linebackers go is Mike's mental

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Speaker 1: will is weak side and sam and strung side linebacker

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Speaker 1: UM the mic or middle linebacker, usually as a coach

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Speaker 1: to quarterback UM in his helmet as long as he's

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Speaker 1: an every down linebacker, So sometimes it's the will linebacker

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Speaker 1: because he's more of a he might be on the UH,

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Speaker 1: they might take the mic out if he's not a

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Speaker 1: guy who can play in sub third down packages. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: whoever ends up having to uh the headset is being

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Speaker 1: told what defensive coverage or a defensive front defensive coverage,

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Speaker 1: So what's the defensive play they want to play on

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Speaker 1: that calling that play, and that's what he's connunicating to

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Speaker 1: the rest of the team. Does Showber some linebackers have

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01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: the ability to change it at the last second, you know,

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Speaker 1: like based on what happened, like change the coverage or

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Speaker 1: something that well he had that I'm sure you will,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, based on yeah, yeah, you have rules based

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Speaker 1: on if they go by three by one and we're

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Speaker 1: in you know, we're in a cover three and they

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Speaker 1: go three by what we wanted, it's gonna be automatic,

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Speaker 1: go to cover four. You know what's interesting about that,

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Speaker 1: Tony we had to really talk much about Showberg. What

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01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,879
Speaker 1: what have you seen from him as a middle linebacker?

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Speaker 1: I mean what I saw in Cleveland, smart athletic, can run,

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01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 1: not a thumper, didn't pass coverage. You know, solid player

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Speaker 1: he was. He was a pretty good player in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Not a great player, but it's pretty good player. Good

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Speaker 1: in coverage. Um, yeah, so he but he's not a thumper.

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Speaker 1: Beat he will which is a problem. If you the

1493
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,840
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01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 1: he will make jack a better player. I think I

1495
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: think that works two ways because I think, well, Jackson

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01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: a better position. First and foremost, I think that his position.

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Speaker 1: I always thought it was his position. We didn't basically,

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Speaker 1: I sure I do now because it wasn't Mike. Well

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Speaker 1: it wasn't Mike, and it wasn't a strong side. Remember

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Speaker 1: when he played the strong side that was So maybe

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Speaker 1: what we're saying, we're hoping it's a position, because if

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Speaker 1: it's that, there's nothing left linebacker. Well, yeah there is.

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Speaker 1: It's a bench. But he's a weak side linebacker who

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Speaker 1: That was for sure, A big dude. He's big. But

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Speaker 1: I don't say you don't play big. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's his issue. What do you think he got lost?

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Speaker 1: At times? It looked like to me he got lost

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Speaker 1: in the middle linebacker. So maybe it was just too much.

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01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, I mean, maybe it was overwhelming for

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01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: him all that. I don't know. It just didn't look

1513
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: like he was ever comfortable. I will say this, guys

1514
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: around him, well, if he doesn't play well will linebacker

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Speaker 1: Polster thirty eight. Do you think Channa will play running

1518
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Speaker 1: back at all? And who gets the most series at

1519
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Speaker 1: running back Sunday? No, he will not play running back,

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01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: Um Robinson. I think Thompson will get the most snaps,

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01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 1: What has he done? It's been too hand touch on

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Speaker 1: the practice field? He like what Hey? After the first

1528
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 1: practice you told me that one of your draft picks

1529
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Speaker 1: you you do? I can tell. I'm an expert. Did

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01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 1: you not? Is that not a true story? True story?

1532
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: And was that not right? You were right? Were you

1533
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 1: in pads by when you said that. No, it was

1534
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: in a minicamp Tony, So you can tell. So I

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Speaker 1: just just just throughout your theory right there. You can

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Speaker 1: am that told you that you did that. You did

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01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson the other day said that Robinson has the

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Speaker 1: we don't have didn't have any vision. He's no longer

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Speaker 1: there are you getting shots of a guy back in

1545
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Speaker 1: But that's not how we feel. Um. And I mean realistically,

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Speaker 1: I know if we if we're taking you know, coach Ron, Uh,

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Speaker 1: So I know us three and a lot of those

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Speaker 1: I love garden Mid when he says stuff like that, well,

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Speaker 1: if we don't win, I'm out of a job. Johns

1624
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: at the job. He just puts it out there. Most

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01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 1: quarterbacks wouldn't do that. Well, we you know, we talked

1626
01:35:56,479 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 1: about guys, We've talked about about Gardnerment you he's your starter.

1627
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Speaker 1: You got a backup six round of from Oregon State.

1628
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 1: Jake Luton is the backup, by the way, back up

1629
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: look pretty good. Spending okay, great, but he's still a rookie. Yeah,

1630
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: so they got a second year player who started part

1631
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Speaker 1: of the season last year in a sixth round rookie.

1632
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's incredible, But why why bother with Glennon?

1633
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Speaker 1: What's Glenna gonna do? I don't know the practice. You

1634
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: don't usually go yeah, okay, I wasn't there. You were?

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Speaker 1: Were you? JP? You you were there? Did Luton now

1636
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 1: played Glennon? Yes? On the tape he did? I think so. Yeah, absolutely, Well,

1637
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: then that's why you keep him. I'm not saying that people.

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Speaker 1: Usually you have a backup play who has starts in

1639
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Speaker 1: this league that you feel I can come in and

1640
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1641
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Speaker 1: of the rookie who has never played Adank snap with

1642
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Speaker 1: no preseason pete. Think about this. If the kid has

1643
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 1: to go in, it's gonna be a regular season game

1644
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Speaker 1: for the first game he's ever played in the NFL. Yeah,

1645
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Speaker 1: but then they can also bring Glennon if they had to,

1646
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 1: They can bring Glennon up. And so I'm not like

1647
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: I get that, but I like, listen, Luton out played them.

1648
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 1: I'll give I'll agree with JP on that um and

1649
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Speaker 1: I think that's what Doug and Davis saw, and he said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, with the practice squad rules the way

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1652
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Speaker 1: the game and then we can bring up Glenning from

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Speaker 1: the practice squad and put them on active roster. And

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Speaker 1: that's the question. Did any of the young kids who

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1656
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Speaker 1: have made the roster? And and we touched on it earlier,

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Speaker 1: you can't say did any of the youth for players

1658
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1659
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Speaker 1: guy that that let go because he was older? No,

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Speaker 1: right there, So keep the young guys? What did the

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Speaker 1: hell do you keep a young guy? Let's come back

1662
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Speaker 1: spent some money PETE this week quarterback to Shawn Watson.

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Speaker 1: It's a four year, one hundred sixty million dollar extension.

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Speaker 1: This is huge money and after four years of probably

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Speaker 1: He's never thrown more than twenty six touchdown passes in

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Speaker 1: the season and they've had some playoff failures as well,

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Speaker 1: so it might seem like it it's a tad high,

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Speaker 1: particularly when you compare it for the first four years

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Speaker 1: and you know how quarterback deals work. Next guy up,

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes is not enough of Deshaun Watson, well pete.

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Speaker 1: But it's a four year extension, so he saw us

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Speaker 1: to work. He starts to play out his the next

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Speaker 1: two years of his rookie deal. So he's stilling a

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Speaker 1: contract for six years, not four jp um. And so

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Speaker 1: you're looking at six years, and with his rookie deal,

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Speaker 1: it's probably six years. What a hundred and seventy million

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Speaker 1: dollars more like it? If he's averaging five the last

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Speaker 1: two years of his rookie contract, um, So it's not

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Speaker 1: quite the eye popping I mean, it's still a great

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Speaker 1: deal of I'll gonna be wrong, but it's not like

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Speaker 1: he's averaging thirty nine years the average I think, or

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Speaker 1: a little bit less even. But anyway, it's they have

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Speaker 1: they have under contract. It's a lot of guaranteed money.

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Speaker 1: I think a hundred and ten of its guaranteed um.

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Speaker 1: But they have under they have under contract for six years.

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Speaker 1: Now is he here's the question. Is he elite? He's

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Speaker 1: on borderline from it. He has the ability at times

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Speaker 1: he looks elite, um times he holds the ball too

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Speaker 1: long for me and makes some uh silly decisions. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I think he's at that. Um, so I'm making

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Speaker 1: up the numbers. Let's say there's five elite, he's that

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Speaker 1: he's at the next stage five to ten, like he's

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Speaker 1: on the verge of having an opportunity. He's not better

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Speaker 1: than a Rodgers. No, I didn'tink Aaron Rodgers is very

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Speaker 1: good the last couple of years. But Aaron Rodgers through

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Speaker 1: twenty six and four last year. So I didn't I

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Speaker 1: said Aaron Rodgers better, Pete, I mean, I know you

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Speaker 1: love Aaron Rodgers. So but I said he's better. Okay,

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Speaker 1: big deep breath. No, I mean he's certainly not Russell

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Speaker 1: will City, not Aaron Rodgers. Um, like he's matching staff Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you said that in a public forum, people would

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Speaker 1: kill you. Why is he? Is he better than Matt Ryan?

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan has been m v P of this league,

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Speaker 1: I mean business, This has been a public forum. This

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Speaker 1: is a public isn't it? Okay? But Tony hides here,

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Speaker 1: Like if you put that on Twitter and get destroyed,

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Speaker 1: put it on Twitter that Matt Stafford is better than

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Speaker 1: I didn't say Matt Jeff is better or as good

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Speaker 1: as DeShawn Watson, because I agree with they're all in

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Speaker 1: that next category. Right, there's only a couple of elite. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: gets me, Like, who's elite? Is Tom? Tom Brady and

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees still elite? I Greece? Uh close? Uh? No?

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Speaker 1: Is so right now? The only elite out The only

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Speaker 1: elites out there are mahomes and and Wilson like bona

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Speaker 1: fide by guys. It was like, yeah, yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: would say Lamar Jackson he's right there too, but we

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Speaker 1: might have to win a playoff game first, fair enough,

1795
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 1: but I mean he's special in my opinion. I like

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson a lot. Let's move to the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: They signed Jadeveon Clowney one year up to fifteen million

1798
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Speaker 1: dollars and no franchise tag next year. And apparently news

1799
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Speaker 1: this afternoon a story came out of that apparently the

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Speaker 1: Jags attempted a sign and trade deal. Pete, you know

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Speaker 1: what you think about that. I knew they were, they

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Speaker 1: were interested, but I didn't know to what degree. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but I think they were gonna trade. No, they're gonna

1804
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Speaker 1: trade him to Yeah, but then you get cap room

1805
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Speaker 1: that way right, training your away from yep, So no,

1806
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Speaker 1: you're trade for picks, you take cap right, thanks, But

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Speaker 1: the league said they couldn't do it. Well, the Saints

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Speaker 1: tried to do it with Cleveland and couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. A clowney names over games. Games

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Speaker 1: gets it wrong. He's not an elite player. He's a

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Speaker 1: good player. He plays hard, he's tough, he's physical, but

1813
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Speaker 1: he doesn't rush the pastor that. Well, come on, think

1814
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1815
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Speaker 1: you be on the market until a week before the

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Speaker 1: he's not. I don't think he's an elite pass rush

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Speaker 1: I think I probably think more highly of him as

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1820
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Speaker 1: He just messes things up. Okay, but Seattle has a

1822
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Speaker 1: glaring need for a guy to do that. They only

1823
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Speaker 1: offered him ten million dollars a year. Why we have

1824
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Speaker 1: cafish He was number one, Okay, Houston sent him packing

1825
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Speaker 1: and large park because b Brian didn't like him, but

1826
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Speaker 1: he never thought he could win consistently on the edge.

1827
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Speaker 1: Well he's not he's not a great passicher. I agree

1828
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Speaker 1: with you there, so he's not worth He's not worth

1829
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Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen minutes seventeen million dollars season. But I think

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Speaker 1: like a thirteen fifteen millions of fair number. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get He got twelve, right, he got the

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1833
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Speaker 1: look around the a f C south um Quick Power

1838
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Speaker 1: how I'm going, but Tony's has gonna be reflected his records.

1840
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Speaker 1: So I got the Colts one, the Titans to the

1841
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Speaker 1: Texas three, and the Jaguars four. Colts jagspectives go into

1842
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Speaker 1: the wild card. Berth apparently to let's go around the

1843
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Speaker 1: National Football League now a waiver claims down this year.

1844
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Speaker 1: NFL Networks Tom Pellisero reported that over the past ten years,

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Speaker 1: the average number of posts cut down waiver claims league

1846
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1847
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Speaker 1: reason why seventeen were claimed this year. Pete, that's down

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Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, it's different, and you're gonna see a

1850
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Speaker 1: lot of shuffling of rosters throughout the season because okay,

1851
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Speaker 1: let's say, uh the Jedi Wars keep they kept two

1852
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1853
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Speaker 1: play a little bit, whether it be on special teams

1854
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Speaker 1: or whatever, and they can't handle it. Then you don't

1855
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 1: you don't know what they can do in a game.

1856
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 1: So maybe they won't be able to handle a game.

1857
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,639
Speaker 1: Maybe they freeze up on game day. Tony, Ever, play

1858
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Speaker 1: with a guy who froze up on game day. You

1859
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 1: would look great practice, but game day came and he

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Speaker 1: froze up. You know these guys will do I would

1861
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1862
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 1: can do it on the practice field but can't translate

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Speaker 1: it to the game. That's freezing up. It's that freezing up.

1864
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Speaker 1: Always think in practice it's scripted like you know the

1865
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1866
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Speaker 1: know this, like you have to like in game days war,

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Speaker 1: handle the game situation, and some guys can't do that.

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01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 1: Feats froze up today. It me and Tony had off

1870
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Speaker 1: air conversations why j B was frozen in time. Let's

1871
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Speaker 1: move along here. Ryan Fitzpatrick is the Week one starter

1872
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins against the Patriots. Not to uh, of course,

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Speaker 1: how about this pete. Ryan Fitzpatrick was a seventh round

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Speaker 1: pick and oh five out of Harvard. Of course. Including

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Speaker 1: the eight million dollars he's do this year, Fitzpatrick will

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Speaker 1: have made over seventy one million dollars in his career.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible. Remember when remember when Buffalo gave him the

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Speaker 1: big extension. I remember writing the whole thing saying what

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Speaker 1: a mistake that was, and it proved it's proven to

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Speaker 1: be that. Look, he's a good I call him the

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Speaker 1: helium balloon because his ball stays in the air for

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Speaker 1: a week and a half. But he's actually proven to

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Speaker 1: be a pretty decent quarterback. He should be a backup.

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Speaker 1: He should be a long time backup is what he

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Speaker 1: should be. Miami's gonna be caught a situation. What if

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Speaker 1: they're competitive a little bit, then they play him the

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Speaker 1: entire season. You don't want that. You want to get

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Speaker 1: onto tour. You want to get through that as fast

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Speaker 1: as you can. But if they're competitive, I think he

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Speaker 1: stays in there. Yeah, I agree. I mean, Fitzpatrick fits Magic,

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Speaker 1: fits magic, great story. But you know he's he's a

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Speaker 1: strong backup. He'd be a great backup on your roster

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Speaker 1: um and but he's made the most of his situation,

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Speaker 1: of the opportunities that he's had, and I take my

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Speaker 1: hat off to him. Speaking of strong backup, Smith Robinsky

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Speaker 1: is the starting quarterback for the Bears and Nick Foles

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Speaker 1: is the backup in Chicago. Pet I don't know. We

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Speaker 1: had a conversation on our show the other day about that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw the clip they

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Speaker 1: sent out where I said, doesn't really matter and either

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Speaker 1: one of them said he could. Neither one of them

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Speaker 1: is a good quarterback. I'm sorry, it's it's still Nick Foles.

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Speaker 1: God bless you have the greatest aberration season or playoff

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Speaker 1: run in history. You aren't very good. If you can't

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Speaker 1: beat up Mr Robinsky. You clearly are very good and

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Speaker 1: Mr Bisky is not very good, So who cares he starts?

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine that the Chicago Bears trading up, gave

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Speaker 1: up draft capital to go get Mitchell Rabisky when Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson and Patrick Mahomes were there on the board. What

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Speaker 1: was his best taking your running back forth overall in

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Speaker 1: that draft? Yeah? But Ryan? Does Ryan Pace get any

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Speaker 1: criticism for that? I mean, yeah? And I think don't

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Speaker 1: you think that's the reason why Drabinsky starting. Whether I

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Speaker 1: don't know the competition, but maybe I played because he

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Speaker 1: knew the offensive, but he knows the offense too, Folds

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Speaker 1: because he played in it before. Don't I just think

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Speaker 1: there's sometimes Look, if Pace picked Drabinsky had made the

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Speaker 1: movie to go get it, Naggy Pace or tied to Drabinsky.

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Speaker 1: So if Drabinsky doesn't play, well, they're all out anyways.

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Speaker 1: If they play Folds and they don't play, they're all

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Speaker 1: out anyway. So you might as well take your shot

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Speaker 1: with Jabinsky. Yeah. Crazy, Let's be honest about it. You're

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01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 1: not very nice thought around the league. The Raiders sent

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Speaker 1: third round pick Lynn Bowden and a sixth round pick

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Speaker 1: to the Dolphins in return for a fourth round pick. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He said it was a football decision only, Pete, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty rare you trade a guy you've picked in this

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Speaker 1: draft from where he's played a game. Man stories come out.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't a football decision. Uh. He's had some He

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Speaker 1: had a hard life, the kid, and so when he

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Speaker 1: got to Vegas, they thought he was more concerned about

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Speaker 1: what was going on away from football, and they felt

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Speaker 1: he might be And I didn't know this for a fact,

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Speaker 1: but I read it where he might be abandoned influence

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Speaker 1: on Henry Ruggs and and Brian Edwards, the two young

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Speaker 1: receivers that actually are going to start for the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: I think that was a bad situation. So that's why

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Speaker 1: it ended up that way. Yeah, receiver and then quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And they had had the running back that was dumb

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Speaker 1: that he's a pretty slot receiver. That's what he should

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Speaker 1: Alrighty as well done. Next week we'll be recapping the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Week one performance against the Indianapolis coult We'll see

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Speaker 1: you then, Pete, Tony the Pete Frisco Tony Boselli on

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Speaker 1: j P. Jagrick we'll see you next time. Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network