WEBVTT - Scrub It What It Is

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, did we do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, we are scrubbing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Scrub a dub dub.

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<v Speaker 3>We have royalty in the o R, so we're just gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Get right to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven year anniversary, Like one of the chances we're doing

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<v Speaker 4>today are.

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<v Speaker 3>Actual seven years scrubbing in anniversary.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>It is kismet and it actually like makes me emotional

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<v Speaker 5>that we have the two of you because obviously we've

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<v Speaker 5>had Camilla. We love you like you are fan favorite,

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<v Speaker 5>but we've been like feral over getting you Jessica Capshaw.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is like really just seven am be careful

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<v Speaker 3>what you wish for.

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<v Speaker 5>This is like a seven year anniversary gift gift gift gifts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that makes me so happy. That makes me so happy,

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<v Speaker 2>That makes my like my heart warm.

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<v Speaker 3>So we left off.

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<v Speaker 1>Teeser.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yes, the teaser on If you haven't listened,

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<v Speaker 4>go listen to part on this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't call it what it is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And.

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<v Speaker 4>The question I ended that part one with was have

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<v Speaker 4>you kissed a woman since your Gray's Anatomy? Since as

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona Robbins.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that that was a teaser question, and when

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<v Speaker 2>you asked it, you looked straight into my soul.

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<v Speaker 6>So much.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, think about its obvious. No, I have not, but

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<v Speaker 2>I really had to think about it. The way she

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at me, I know, I was like, does

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<v Speaker 2>she know something I don't know? She does know, so

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<v Speaker 2>so the answer is no, you little tease doing the teasers.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I love so much what you what you

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<v Speaker 2>both just said. I feel so I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a gift to be in the space because seven years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly I didn't even know. I don't even know that

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<v Speaker 2>I knew what a podcast was seven years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>I really really makes me feel better because we've been

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<v Speaker 5>trying to get you for a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>I never I never knew people have been keeping us apart.

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<v Speaker 5>I know I did like to tread the line of

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<v Speaker 5>like bandgirl, but we try to keep it professional.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's like professional do.

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<v Speaker 2>A great the point, but I really did not know.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I do know is that my first experience

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<v Speaker 2>of you two was also doing something that I had

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<v Speaker 2>not really done, which was doing a live event with

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<v Speaker 2>the Grays cast in Los Angeles, and I found the

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<v Speaker 2>event a little bit overwhelming because it was sort of

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind, it was the tipping point of when

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<v Speaker 2>Grays started getting watched in the rewatch world.

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<v Speaker 7>People were streaming, yeah, the streaming world, and so it

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<v Speaker 7>it enumerated the exposure of the show and just how

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<v Speaker 7>many were watching it and therefore walking around the world

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<v Speaker 7>knowing who was in it, and it was live, and

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<v Speaker 7>I had never witnessed in person the passion that people

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<v Speaker 7>felt for the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'd had the like, oh, I likes Anatomy, or

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<v Speaker 2>known that it did well, or like seen things on

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<v Speaker 2>message boards or whatever it was, but I had never

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<v Speaker 2>seen in person how the show made people feel. And

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<v Speaker 2>so it was it was an insane event. But getting

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<v Speaker 2>to the point, which was that we had the Q

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<v Speaker 2>and A and we saw the people and the people

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<v Speaker 2>were coming on the stage and everything else. But there

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<v Speaker 2>was this moment where there were escalators. I remember there

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<v Speaker 2>being near an escalator, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Carpet was that where it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember we were there with the whole cast, But

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<v Speaker 2>I remember being closest to Jesse Williams at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember just being like, like just I truly

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<v Speaker 2>stayed very close to him because I was so intimidated

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<v Speaker 2>by the whole experience because it was just so vibrant

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<v Speaker 2>and like right there and such heightened emotions. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember seeing you too, with your bright and shiny faces

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<v Speaker 2>and your enthusiasm, and you're just like and you were

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<v Speaker 2>dressed in scrubs. Yeah, and you guys were so excited,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember thinking, hold on in my brain, like, Jessica,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on to that, like, hold on to that bright,

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<v Speaker 2>shiny excitement. That's what this is. It's not intimidating, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not that. It's just this is joyous, like be here

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<v Speaker 2>for the joy. So you guys, you all brought the

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<v Speaker 2>joy to that that time, and I felt like that

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<v Speaker 2>was a gift to me because it actually, I was

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<v Speaker 2>unclear at that moment. I sort of felt again intimidated.

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<v Speaker 2>It with a lot of people, a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and you all, seeing you all sort of like snapped

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<v Speaker 2>the picture into focus for me and helped me understand

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<v Speaker 2>why we were there and what we were doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that is that is nice.

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<v Speaker 4>We showed up in scrubs and everyone had their microphones and.

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<v Speaker 5>Their their lights, like their mic flags, like everybody we

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<v Speaker 5>were with, like all the press, like cameras and stuff

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<v Speaker 5>when we have our iPhones.

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<v Speaker 4>Mismatched blue scrubs were like, they're probably who are these girls,

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<v Speaker 4>But y'all were so one, so kind to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I felt like we were like I remember what

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<v Speaker 2>I was wearing.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember your outfit, my favorite outfit of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm actually really sad because remember Kevin McKidd was there,

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<v Speaker 5>and we hated him at the time, like we don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to talk to his character. Yeah, we didn't like

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<v Speaker 5>his characters. We were like, we don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 5>to Owen Hunt. But I'm sad because I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>a misopportunity because you like.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got him on the show to I told him,

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<v Speaker 4>told him, and I told him.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I have hated you for I don't

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<v Speaker 5>remember how many years since he came.

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<v Speaker 1>On sind On Christina.

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<v Speaker 5>Since he cheated and when Teddy cheated on him, I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, good for her, you deserve it. And then

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<v Speaker 5>we had him on the podcast and he was so

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<v Speaker 5>lovely and so nice that I was like, I love

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<v Speaker 5>Owen Hunt now and he turned me into a lover

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<v Speaker 5>and it felt weird, but I shift.

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<v Speaker 1>The shift character for like hearing like we hate you,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, it's cool, I'm on the pot.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I love it was so game, he like did

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<v Speaker 5>not he didn't take it personal at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember early Owen Hunt was also just always so intense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and still it's like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Owen's just intense. He's more intense you in

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<v Speaker 1>the musical episode.

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<v Speaker 2>How intense he was.

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<v Speaker 6>Going to be?

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<v Speaker 2>My can we know? As your question was, did But

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<v Speaker 2>his part of it was like, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>the one where he was like him and Kyler and

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<v Speaker 2>they were operating.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, oh, dont breathe, just breathe just actually

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<v Speaker 4>look look.

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<v Speaker 1>What did he send the kids?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I love it, Kevin.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it was a lot. It was just like

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<v Speaker 2>very It was like, yeah, he was like the Jets

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<v Speaker 2>of the Sharks.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, I just need to know what y'all

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<v Speaker 4>did when you got the news that you were doing

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<v Speaker 4>a musical episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know this too.

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<v Speaker 4>I would never about three people who were thriving excited

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<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You were one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, there's so many things I can say.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I have a little bit of a puppy dog

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<v Speaker 8>energy in the sense that when someone like gets excited

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<v Speaker 8>about something, I'm like, yeah, would we do you would

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<v Speaker 8>do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's okay. That's so I was a little puppy

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<v Speaker 2>dog and I was like, were you in a musical episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course we're doing a musical episode. That makes perfect sense,

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<v Speaker 2>does it? I don't know, but yeah, for sure, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do that. And so I was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit that energy. I just had a baby, so I

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit also hormonal, tired and hormonal energy.

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<v Speaker 2>And then once I went to the coaching session where

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<v Speaker 2>we were to be assessed to figure out who was

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<v Speaker 2>going to say which song, I think I had higher

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<v Speaker 2>expectations for how many songs I was going to get

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<v Speaker 2>than I was actually given. And so it was maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a little disappointing when we found out that I, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>saying one line.

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<v Speaker 3>It was impactful though, let me tell you it was impactful.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. And then I was like the chorus for

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<v Speaker 2>how to Save Life? So you know, I mean I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Out.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you realized.

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<v Speaker 5>So Becka has been watching Grey's Anatomy since she was

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<v Speaker 5>like in high school, like she's been she's been watching.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Live like to Grays.

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<v Speaker 5>I started watching when I was I don't know how,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe ten years ago, and I binge like the first

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<v Speaker 5>nine or ten seasons in like a matter of months.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I got to the musical episode and she

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<v Speaker 3>was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Get ready, ready, ready for watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I love this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to take an edible and watch I want

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<v Speaker 4>to watch it with a like taking with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Higher consciousness.

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<v Speaker 4>Rand experiencing that because it felt like a fever dream,

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<v Speaker 4>totally sober.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I'm gonna say something I've I've never

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<v Speaker 2>said before. Do you remember Seene where CALLI and are

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<v Speaker 2>driving and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Like falls on the orby the finger.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the finger wiggle. We had a choreographer for that.

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<v Speaker 9>With the finger for the fingers, they didn't all literally

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<v Speaker 9>had a choreographer on set to help me time out

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<v Speaker 9>my finger going back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was so afraid of perform by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just lip syncing, but I I was I

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<v Speaker 2>even singing or was it actually I don't even.

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<v Speaker 3>Singing.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely think it was a lipsing situation.

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<v Speaker 2>My no joke choreographer for that finger.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I loved it. I think the episode deserved more

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<v Speaker 3>to be honest, more respect.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, someone sitting to a small minority.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in the minority with this.

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<v Speaker 5>But I feel like I really loved Arizona Robbins, Like

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<v Speaker 5>to me, she was she was me like I was,

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<v Speaker 5>like if I were.

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<v Speaker 1>In a the lesbian thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my lesbian thing, but I would be like skating

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<v Speaker 5>around like that would like I loved your character like

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<v Speaker 5>I loved.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm still here. But you know it's so crazy

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<v Speaker 2>and super nerdy?

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<v Speaker 9>Is that? So?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I? And I love that because that means I've

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<v Speaker 2>done my job. Well, I am, but I'm really not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you guys are so actually real.

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<v Speaker 4>I always thought you were, but I'm realizing that you're sure.

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<v Speaker 3>You give me beca energy which is not Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine is the queer bar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, interesting enough.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I I think that as the character

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<v Speaker 2>came together, there were so many things that I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many things that I do that I that

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<v Speaker 2>that she does and behaviors that are are similar to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But but no, we're very different.

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<v Speaker 1>Positivity is the same. You're extremely positive.

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I am. I really tried it. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>that it is. It's actually I don't. It's actually not effort.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's really mindset I had. I was telling people

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<v Speaker 2>I have this. I had this wild epiphany there to

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<v Speaker 2>day where I realize and it's where we really learn

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<v Speaker 2>a lot from each other, I find because she represents

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<v Speaker 2>a different perspective and I not only want it, I

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<v Speaker 2>actually genuinely need it in my life. But I found,

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<v Speaker 2>or I realize that very often when people are hurtful,

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<v Speaker 2>or when someone hurts my feelings, or when I see

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<v Speaker 2>other people hurt other people's feelings that I love and

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<v Speaker 2>I have some investment in it, I almost instantly go

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<v Speaker 2>to throwing love at that person and feeling sort of

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<v Speaker 2>bad for them. Like when people hurt people, I'm like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 2>like what must you be feeling like that? You need

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<v Speaker 2>to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I do not, but because most people just take it

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<v Speaker 4>and they're like, I'm hurt, they don't. They don't even

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<v Speaker 4>have the awareness to go, oh, they're hurting, so let

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<v Speaker 4>me show them love.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a practice, It's it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>An automatic for me. It just happens, and I'm I

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<v Speaker 2>do love that about me, and sometimes it's not right,

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<v Speaker 2>you wish and I'm like, they're also any.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you a Scorpio? Oh no, you're a sagittarius.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, well I have a little scorpio, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was raised.

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<v Speaker 5>By Okay, yeah, yeah, that's interesting. It's a similar dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna ask because we talked about this on.

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<v Speaker 3>Scorpio.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a scorpio and what are you cancer? Okay? What's

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<v Speaker 1>your rising though? Is that the one you're perceived as.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a libra.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a Leo.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I'll get along because she's a leo.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a leo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, I'm leo.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Before we went on part one of this, go listen

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<v Speaker 4>and call it what it is, we y'all asked how

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<v Speaker 4>we met and then I said she wasn't super warm,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you had a huge reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>To that I did, and we didn't get to hear

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<v Speaker 1>the story about it. So I want to hear now

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<v Speaker 1>and you can take your sides and let us know you.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm going to be with.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Here's what happened, and then Jessica can tell her

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<v Speaker 1>lies after. Okay. In I was my first year on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I was not even a series regular. I

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<v Speaker 1>was recurring, and I didn't know that like food trucks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know once in a while came on to set

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<v Speaker 1>and were a gift from somebody, right, Like they were

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<v Speaker 1>treating everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>To like a food truck. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So this food truck was on set, came in and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a Burger truck and on the little signage

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<v Speaker 1>on it said like, thank you cast and crew from

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<v Speaker 1>Shonda Rhymes. And I was like, oh my god, that's

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<v Speaker 1>very cool and sweet and it's Shonda. Well, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to like I'm appreciative, Like I'm gonna take a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of this and I'm gonna tweet it out and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so awesome that Shanda did this, like thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I did. And then I went and

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down in my little cast chair, and why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you explain what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, what's wrong with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? What is wrong with that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? In the picture that she hook, there might have

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<v Speaker 2>been a Jessica cap shot on her on her on

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<v Speaker 2>her lunch break food break. Yeah, yea with a.

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<v Speaker 1>Heartily dressed burger. She was motivating a burger in the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that, but she had like she was

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<v Speaker 1>like shoving it down. She was deep throating a burger

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<v Speaker 1>and I was not aware, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you might have been eaten in one bite perhaps,

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<v Speaker 2>And Jessica Stormed became the dragon that I am, and

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<v Speaker 2>she was like inside dragon to me, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>she's inflated. Honestly, every time she tells the story.

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<v Speaker 3>Story save for.

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<v Speaker 2>The screws.

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<v Speaker 1>Pointed and she literally roared like you have to ask permission?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you host a picture? Don't you? What are you

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<v Speaker 1>new here? Yeah? And from then on it was icy.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought she was strategic a sabotage. Yeah, she thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was sabotage. You guys, we call her burger Gate.

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<v Speaker 2>Burger sabotage Hersha and nannies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I saw that.

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<v Speaker 3>Mom here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, you don't really have to be aside

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<v Speaker 2>because look how it ended up. I think that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of reasons why. But it's actually for me

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<v Speaker 2>because it makes me think of something I haven't thought

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<v Speaker 2>of before. And you you touched on it in the

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<v Speaker 2>other podcast, the one that's on our.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't call it what it is, which is you

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<v Speaker 1>were wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's what I was gonna say. What I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say is this, I think that I was very

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<v Speaker 2>much living in you know whatever that was, which was

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<v Speaker 2>probably ten years ago, fifteen years ago, was I was

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<v Speaker 2>still learneder the impression that you had to be perfect

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<v Speaker 2>right right, that anything that was out there of you

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<v Speaker 2>needed to be perfect, perfect, or at least needed to

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<v Speaker 2>be what you wanted to be like it had to

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<v Speaker 2>be polished. Yeah, but I mean or if your if

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<v Speaker 2>your image was not polished, then not polished. But it

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<v Speaker 2>had to be consistent with whatever it was that you

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<v Speaker 2>were right with the fan saw, Yeah, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a there was a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>It was I was a little slower to understanding that

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<v Speaker 2>the belonging and the connection piece hinges on being able

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<v Speaker 2>to be real. And sometimes you have just gone back

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<v Speaker 2>from having a baby and you're on set with your

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<v Speaker 2>gorgeous new costar who you don't know very well, and

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<v Speaker 2>a Burger truck comes and you put a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff on that double double cheeseburger.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you eat and someone takes a picture of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, by the way, no one could find the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably never existed, or it got existed, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it did.

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<v Speaker 1>It definitely existed after you yelled, she probably deleted it

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<v Speaker 1>right away.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't pointed yell.

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<v Speaker 1>It was maybe minutes I walked from the picture and

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<v Speaker 1>within like ten minutes it was like it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a tornado.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's how I'm telling you, what did I like?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you feel? Because your news still wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>I remember turning to my interns, and you know what's

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<v Speaker 1>really funny, this is kind of the dynamic on the show, right,

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<v Speaker 1>being like, oh my god, she's so mad, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do. I don't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like very much like intern attending like

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<v Speaker 1>you screwed, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's probably a really good example of what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a call back to what something I just admitted that

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<v Speaker 2>I do, which is like I was likely hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, then I had something to do and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Gave it to show because it was equal.

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<v Speaker 2>Rights for all, and so I think that I I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely definitely think that that's what was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was tough though, because we we it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that she thought that I was like not

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<v Speaker 1>just like a typical like actress of like ha haha,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming in and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Can down the house, you know. And in fairness, I

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<v Speaker 2>had worked with a lot of people who were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I had like lived experience, right, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>fair potential assessment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, it's a different.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like such a different because I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>twelve years ago when I started on the morning show

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<v Speaker 5>and like the dynamic there was like not what it

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<v Speaker 5>is now. It's it was not women helping women. It

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<v Speaker 5>was the opposite. Yeah, women on for themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's like I get where your headspace was because

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<v Speaker 5>it just wasn't like it is now. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I very much had experiences when it worked

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<v Speaker 2>that were truly like sitting in the makeup chair having

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<v Speaker 2>you know, your post lunch touch up and as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>someone who'd been there for longer than you or higher

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<v Speaker 2>up on the call sheet coming over and being like,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah can you pause? You need to stand up and

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<v Speaker 2>walk out. And because it's my turn, like I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Been, I mean, and I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>I try very hard to. I'm proud of myself for this.

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<v Speaker 2>I adapt. Yeah, you know, I just I figured out

0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:32.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a huge ego, so I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't go there. I sort of go to

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<v Speaker 2>what makes everybody? What what makes what's the price a piece?

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<v Speaker 3>Here?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about herself as a recovering people pleaser. Yes, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you guys are so bad. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so hard to bring.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you feel like you're done with that? But I

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<v Speaker 4>do feel like I'm much better. Like I think I

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<v Speaker 4>have a lot more of Like I think of myself

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<v Speaker 4>ten years ago and I think of how different that

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<v Speaker 4>mentality was versus now when I think about things that

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<v Speaker 4>I would like people please so much on. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty ingrained. Yeah, it's ingrained to me. Yeah, it takes

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<v Speaker 4>effort to like not people please for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Well, I think there's also two aspects that

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard you say that might contribute that I share

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Mine's more Midwestern, but being from the Midwest

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<v Speaker 2>and being a woman. Yeah, I mean, we talked about

0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:32.399
<v Speaker 2>this with Julian Huff. It's there's a sort of collective

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<v Speaker 2>there's a collective belief that girls are meant to be

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<v Speaker 2>kind and be accommodating and make things okay. If, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, that actually is in your talent set right,

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.119
<v Speaker 2>because there's some people who actually can't. It's actually it

0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.399
<v Speaker 2>actually has a talent to be able to make everybody happy.

0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.120
<v Speaker 2>It's not one that everybody can do right, and those

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.720
<v Speaker 2>people just sort of get to like sidestep the responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you can do that, and I mean, I

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.520
<v Speaker 2>grew up as a child of divorce. I grew up

0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.720
<v Speaker 2>in you know, going back and forth between two families.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up going to thirteen different schools before I

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<v Speaker 2>was thirteen. Like if I didn't figure out how to

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<v Speaker 2>make new situations, okay friends, and I didn't for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was not fun. So when I finally got

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<v Speaker 2>into and I remember saying to my mom because my

0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.440
<v Speaker 2>mom wasn't an actress, well, no, she was an actress.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was an actress. I would go wherever she

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<v Speaker 2>went to make a movie. And I remember being like twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>going into like seventh grade, and I still can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>that I would have the strength to do this, because

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<v Speaker 2>I did understand that we went places, because that's how

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<v Speaker 2>she made a living. But I said, I'm done. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>no more. I can't, I can't do it again. I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot move one more time. I cannot be the new girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot have no friends. I cannot, I cannot, I cannot.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when she had to adjust her life to

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<v Speaker 2>create the life in Los Angeles and then go off

0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 2>and do jobs. And seventh and eighth grade was really

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<v Speaker 2>hard for me because I didn't have any friends. And

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't until ninth grade that I actually I found

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<v Speaker 2>my people and I understood how the greatest talk about gift,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the greatest gift in the world is connection

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<v Speaker 2>and feeling like you have a team, feeling like you

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<v Speaker 2>have somebody who's gonna notice if you're sick that day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I only I honestly think it only takes one

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 2>if you have more grade. But truly, I've always been

0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 2>sort of like that's always been my mindset too. I've

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:33.199
<v Speaker 2>never belonged to like one big group of girlfriends. I've

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:35.879
<v Speaker 2>always had, you know, really deep and meaningful relationship with

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of different people. And I'm a little bit

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 2>of a floater. But those times where you can, you know,

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 2>make friends, that made the difference, and that really was

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<v Speaker 2>the difference between sadness and happiness for me in middle

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<v Speaker 2>school going into high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that impacts you. It's such an age where you're

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>like so imparted to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Where was the shift after Burger Gate where y'all said

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<v Speaker 1>I love you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to be your best friend and do a podcast.

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:06.360
<v Speaker 1>We were we were slowly warming up a little bit

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>towards the end of the season. I remember the episode

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 1>where there's the storm and the lights go out and

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.119
<v Speaker 1>the tree comes in and Alex and Joe have like

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.959
<v Speaker 1>their first kiss and Arizona and Cali.

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Wait, what when Arizona chief that cheeze?

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that episode we had to work together. We were

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>doing this with the baby, and I remember feeling like, oh,

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 1>it's getting a little warmer. I was getting warmer vibes.

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 1>And then it was the end of the season and

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.919
<v Speaker 1>there was a rat party and we had we were

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:40.959
<v Speaker 1>friends with so many people that we were friends with

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.440
<v Speaker 1>so many of the same people, and we invited everyone

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>to a dinner before the rat party, and nobody showed

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 1>up but us.

0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 2>That's so sad that I think that the key part

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 2>of that, as you were talking that were like, no,

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>it was substantial.

0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like we were being left.

0:24:58.080 --> 0:24:59.919
<v Speaker 2>It was actually it was actually genuinely because they will.

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.159
<v Speaker 2>But as you were telling that story, I just flashed

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 2>on the fact that because we didn't spend a ton

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:08.160
<v Speaker 2>of time together, and probably because you were new and

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I was an I don't know is that when we

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 2>finally had time to be together. I mean the gold,

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 2>the magic, like the thing that you have like no

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 2>other is how funny you are.

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, we laugh and you guys do too. We laughed

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:31.639
<v Speaker 1>so much. You're so funny though, Like, I don't know

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>if people realize how funny. They can't.

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 2>They don't.

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>They can't they well because.

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't know it from Joe Wilson. And I mean, like,

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 2>you're not funny, but like you're funny and you're going

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:47.879
<v Speaker 2>one You're not serious, she's not funny, but Camilla is

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 2>very funny.

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Fun to her finding fun to her.

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean they've they've written in more comedy over

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>the years, but but no, that was like the actually,

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>you know what the coolest thing about that dinner was

0:25:58.359 --> 0:25:59.880
<v Speaker 1>because there was a part of me that was like, well,

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.679
<v Speaker 1>grew you for being like a little bit mean. But

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 1>she at that dinner, she said, hey, I'm so sorry

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>about that incident. I was feeling just really insecure at

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the time and I was having I just had the baby,

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and I was and I thought that was so fucking cool. Yeah,

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>that because it's hard to do and to not just

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>say I'm sorry about that moment. That was like not

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 1>I was not feeling it or myself or whatever. And

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>then to also like be vulnerable and tell me that

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>all her feelings and I was like, I love her.

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, if she wants me best friends, I'm

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:39.880
<v Speaker 1>in Like, I just love that vulnerable.

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 2>That's tough.

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard.

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 4>And to say I was feeling insecure and like admit

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 4>where you yeah, we're in the wrong, is like that

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.679
<v Speaker 4>not I would say, majority of people don't have the

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 4>emotional best or maturity to do that.

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 3>No, they don't.

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>No. And then I love just and then it was

0:26:57.800 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>just love it.

0:26:58.760 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 2>And then it was just like it was like.

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Seasons after the season nine, this is twenty twelve.

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but then how was it for you? When Arizona

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Robbins left the cell?

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 2>That was just.

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 4>The meanest thing they've ever done. Honestly, it was happening nowhere.

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>It felt so like abrupt and I was like, what happened?

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what happened? So many things? So many things?

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I did you know it was coming?

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:28.360
<v Speaker 9>You know what.

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 2>We talk about this a lot because this is a

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 2>story that has a day some day to be told.

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 2>It's not today.

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 10>Champagne, bottom of Champagne.

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>It was a multi layered situation. Have you ever been

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>asked that before? I think this might be the first

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>time you've been asked that.

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I've been asked that before, and I've never said what

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I feel, which is that there is a story and

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 2>that I'm just not ready to talk about it.

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:15.199
<v Speaker 9>Then.

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 2>And I will, but I'm just not there yet. So

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 2>when other people have asked me before, I think I've

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 2>just sort of bed and switched. And in the spirit

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>of the things that we've been talking about, I think

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 2>can take over and you can just sort of figure

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 2>out how to say, you know, I mean, you can

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 2>say you can pivot, pivot, yeah, and you and and

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and that and and and I stand by that that's

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>that that was appropriate and and and so yeah, there's

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>a time and a place, and there's probably on a podcast.

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 2>And I think, as with all stories, you know, and

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 2>all experiences, the the one that I would relay is mine. Right,

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of different things that were going on.

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 2>I think that you know, there were It's funny because

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 2>there was so much speculation and people were so upset.

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 3>I was devastated, devastating devastated.

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I will speak to that which is that was that

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 2>was very very hard for me to be dealing with

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 2>my own processing and the fans that there was a

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 2>collective sadness or a feeling for those people that did that,

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 2>that that that character was important.

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 3>You just wink at us twice and we can start some.

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 5>Somebody can start some petitions like you just give us

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 5>the nod and we have a force behind us.

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you.

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>The scrubbers they are. They're ready to go.

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 3>They want us to People's Choice Awards, so they can

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 3>do anything.

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>They can do anything.

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I do actually that and I will say that you

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>know what what I what I mean by how how

0:29:56.280 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I was affected by people's feelings is a true, true

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 2>compliment to the way in which our fans express their

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 2>excitement and their gratitude and their their connection and the

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 2>and just how much it means to them. Because you know, listen,

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, you know, if we

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 2>screamed it, and if we screamed it into a vacuum,

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't matter, right, if it all happen like in

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the woods where everyone's watching, right, it

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 2>would not be satisfying. It would not be what it is,

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 2>and it is truly because when people say this, and

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>you right, but I think they say it because they

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>mean it. We're literally nothing without the people who watch

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the show. And so the fact that we have people

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 2>who watch the show with their whole hearts and believe

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 2>and in things and trust in things and and and

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 2>give us as performers on the show their time, it's

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 2>everything I mean. And also it just doesn't happen all

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>that often, you know, I mean, not at this level.

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 2>And so when you watch, you know, I'm I love

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 2>being an audience member and I love watching things, and

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 2>I have that feeling when I'm super immersed and I

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 2>completely I'm just double downed on watching something. It's it's

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest feelings ever. So the fact that

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I get to be on the other side of that

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 2>sometimes is She's super lucky.

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>It's true, though you change. I mean, I literally this

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>is like a.

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 4>I've talked about this, like when before I was with

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 4>my girlfriend, before I even had thoughts because I was

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 4>so like Christian that I never even thought of a woman.

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 4>But I was obsessed with Callian Arizona. I would read

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 4>fan fiction of Meredith and Derek and Callian Arizona, which

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 4>it's not for someone who's just fully straight, is not

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 4>for if you're reading cal Zona fan fiction Reassessed for

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 4>listeners out there, there's a surprise.

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Coming for you, coming, She's coming, But you did you change?

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Like that relationship game?

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 4>I mean it was like one of the first relationships

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 4>that a lot of queer people saw that they were like.

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>We talked about that in life.

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, I see I see myself and someone on

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 4>on my TV on a network television show, which was

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 4>so important.

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 2>And that I did not see coming from the beginning,

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 2>And when it was revealed that Arizona was gay and

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>like absolutely, unapologetically, steadfastly with full permanent and strength of

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 2>heart and conviction and total like when we were talking

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 2>about like which parts of her are me and which

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 2>parts are not? I've never been as confident as Arizona

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 2>is ever. And in the play there were oftentimes where

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I would say to the writers like is there like

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>is there any should she play this? Like a little

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 2>unsure of what of what she's thinking, saying, feeling the past.

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 2>And it was always and this is because sometimes you

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 2>just got to trust the system. Ye Shanda and the

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 2>powers that be that were writing those words and creating

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 2>those characters. It was always, always, always Arizona is resolutely,

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>always has been, always will be a strong, proud gay woman.

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 2>And that hadn't been happening on television.

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, no, And she was she was a feminine

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and Barbie, Yeah, she's like Barbie, Barbie, literally.

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Do we have that?

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>We do? They should be in the.

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Mark it out?

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 3>Mark it out?

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 2>But I mean I think that that was that was

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 2>a sort of incredible thing that happened, and that was

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 2>that was magic, like that was bigger than all of

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>us and m hm. And I do think that it

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 2>was very purposeful sort of having her come in the

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 2>way that she did.

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Camilla.

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 4>First of all, do you like you on link together

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 4>on the show?

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Camilla?

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 4>Joe?

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>God? This again you guys, I know you hate them together? Skylar? Yeah,

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't he here? Yeah, we're talking tomorrow.

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 4>But we heard you talk about how like you thought

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 4>that was gonna be Joe's person, And I.

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Was like, yes, well here's what happened. I knew that

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>they were going to bring someone in for Joe and

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, recur, and I thought like, any we know this,

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>any recurring on the show can stand the test of

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>time and end up a permanent because you were both

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 1>case and case in point case and point. So they're

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 1>bringing a guy on, and I said, if you bring

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a guy on and he's anything like Alex corrupt, it's

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>not gonna work. Right, Like, my pitch for you guys

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 1>is that you bring on someone that's like cute, nerdy, funny,

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>like brings out a different side of her. And that's

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of where they were going with it. Anyway, they

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>were of the same mind, right, And then Christa Vernoff,

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.240
<v Speaker 1>our showrunner, text me and said it's gonna be Skylar Aston,

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:31.439
<v Speaker 1>who already was like, oh my god, this is gonna

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>be amazing because hello, he's fantastic and everything he's in

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and he encompasses all of those things. But you never

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>know what chemistry is gonna be like with someone. And

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 1>when he got to set, we met before he even

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>started filming. He'd come in for something I forget, maybe

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>a costume fitting, and I ran into him. Then we

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>walked back to base camp and I was like, Hey,

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be like your new girlfriend for a little bit,

0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and and we just had really natural chemistry, like it

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>just worked. And he made me laugh so much. He's

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>so charming and and and it was just really easy.

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 1>And I thought this is going to be it. This

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>could be it for her because it brought out a

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>new side. It was so different, it was lighter, like

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 1>I just thought it could go somewhere. Skyler brooked a show.

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>He was not a series regular on our show, and

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>he booked and that was it. And but they were

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.399
<v Speaker 1>already teasing, like the Link thing. How do you wait?

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I have to ask you guys, how do you feel

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 1>about Link right now?

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 4>Saying, first of all, I love him. He was on

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 4>our podcast and we love him as a Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 4>on his.

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<v Speaker 1>Actual Yeah, it's not quite.

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 3>It's not it's not quite.

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<v Speaker 1>About Link and Joe together.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's just's it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not you feel like there's chemistry or no, I

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like you have chemistry. But it feels very friendly.

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>It feels friend chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>Frank Cam, you have.

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<v Speaker 3>Friend Yeah, not bed Cam, but y'all have.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex, I have Beg camon Allan are you wait hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry because I'm not up to speed.

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<v Speaker 2>How deep are we in with Link? Are you married?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well she's at the end of the season last

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>year with his baby. Okay, she hasn't told me. People

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:33.479
<v Speaker 1>pregnant all the time. It doesn't matter on the show.

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>They're pretty they're pretty deep.

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<v Speaker 3>They're pretty deep. It's not for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like they're in game?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not for me. You're not asking me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, this is not a spoiler. Last time I

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.800
<v Speaker 1>went in, they gave me a laundry list of reasons

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>why it was not going to work. There was something

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>he'd done early on our set, and you're like, you're

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>they're real pregnant. I I think, yeah, I think yes.

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>But what's hard for me too, is you have to

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 1>remember that, like I work with Chris Karmic, I love

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Chris Carmack, is also that element of like when you

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<v Speaker 1>adore the actor you're working with you yeah, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, isn't it funny how sometimes you hear all

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 2>these stories about how when when the actors get along

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<v Speaker 2>really well, it's actually not as much chemistry as when

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 2>the characters and then I don't get along.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like Rachel McAdams and Ryan and the Notebook, that's

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 4>a hard one together and they ended.

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Up dating, but they didn't like each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Each other, but they almost had to recast. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so bad. Yes, they did not. I will never forget

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 1>seeing that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I made my girls watch Jerry Maguire in The Notebook

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:54.840
<v Speaker 2>to learn what romance.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one they like better.

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<v Speaker 2>They were so hard I rolling when we were watching Notebook.

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I might have gotten them on the tag on the

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<v Speaker 2>attack watch that.

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 5>You gotta watch Love Island with them.

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Like I need the romans.

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 3>I gotta send up for the kids here I gotta be.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the way I speak, you know, I actually

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 2>did laugh really hard because my girls are now fine.

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 2>They didn't really care about Graysnonomy at all, but then

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 2>all their friends did, and so now they're watching, and

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 2>now they're really into it, and so uh they're both

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 2>at different parts, and uh, I think they just crossed

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 2>over to when I arrived. Arrived, and I keep reading

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:38.800
<v Speaker 2>like I can't wait to see how this all goes,

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<v Speaker 2>because they know they were there.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like worry about like your nude stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is my point. So Poppy says to me,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I got the episode. Blah blah blah

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:50.919
<v Speaker 2>blah blah. But then all of a sudden, the door

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 2>opened and you're in the shower with CALLI and I

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 2>look away. Yes, of course it's gonna be weird. But

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<v Speaker 2>when when I was doing when, I mean they were

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 2>all tiny, Yeah, you were basically I don't think that

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 2>on some levels, like I thought I would die there, right.

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 5>But again it's also like your it's not I mean,

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 5>it's you, but it's not you, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously we talked about that a lot. But but again,

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm the daughter of an actress and I remember my

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 2>mom did a show one time and I think she like.

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 10>Showed her butt and I was like, oh god, yeah,

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 10>that could be the day that my kids find out

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 10>about Californication is going to be a situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold are your kids now, I.

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Mean they're watching that. Anytime there's a problem in my household. Yeah,

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a I mean, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>another ten years, like that's that's tough, that's I know.

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, ill at school is going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>I saw your mom's for.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, But that was a while ago. I last year

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>was I was going to do something that let's just

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 2>put it this way. We had to. So when you're

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 2>when there's a possibility of you doing nudity. You have

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 2>to like clause it out with your lawyers, like you

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 2>got to have real explicit Have you guys.

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Ever had anyone talk about this with you guys? I

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.439
<v Speaker 1>don't know there was a nudity clause. Tell we gotta

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>tell you guys a little bit.

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, leave you with this when you are when something

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 2>is written, well, actually I don't even know how to

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 2>describe it. So let's do it together.

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:27.800
<v Speaker 8>Okay.

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 2>You'll read a script and and either the nudity or

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 2>the sex scenes are either explicit or they're just sort

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 2>of like general, like it's not it's not explicit what

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 2>they're going to do. It might just be like and

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 2>they fall into bed and then whatever. But it's not explicit, right,

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not like and then her hand goes to and

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:54.280
<v Speaker 2>then his tongue, his tongue, his whatever, whatever whatever combination.

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 2>And if it's explicit, then you know what you're signing

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 2>up for. But if it's just a love scene, then

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:04.840
<v Speaker 2>you make it need to figure out what as an

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:08.720
<v Speaker 2>actor you're comfortable doing. And so that's when the lawyers

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 2>come in and it becomes very explicit. Like I remember

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 2>having one where it was like and she will.

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 10>Show up to the first three quarters of her back

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 10>but not below the Yeah.

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I remember in my Californication when it was like literally

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>my lawyer called me. He was like, okay, so because

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I was topless, I shot my butt. But they wanted

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:33.240
<v Speaker 1>to know how far down by the vagina they could shoot.

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>So he had to like go through like how like

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>how many inches of pubic hair down? And it was

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like that detailed because you had to protect yourself. You

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 1>had to be really specific because they.

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Go down to your butt.

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>It could be the butt hole, the butle. I feel

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 1>like I actually clause to the clause.

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Always so we didn't know. We didn't have used to.

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean when I was there, we didn't have intimacy coordinators,

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 2>which that I would have been very grateful for.

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 1>We did not, not till last night. But it very

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:14.280
<v Speaker 1>it's very recent.

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:15.240
<v Speaker 2>It's very recent.

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 4>But the whole industry you just the director telling you

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 4>how to move and what yes.

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's always a very sort of

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>very talking about vulnerable, a very vulnerable thing because very hard.

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.440
<v Speaker 2>It's also like okay, what's like where is the action happening?

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 2>And is it happening? Like is it between action and

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 2>cut and then are you like, obviously it is, but

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 2>but there's it's just a very nuanced.

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 3>And how many times are you doing that?

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 2>And how many times are you doing it? And also

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 2>where are like where is your hand going? And where

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 2>is your So I was the first time I was

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 2>lesbian on television. I was on The L Word and

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I was myself and Jennifer Peels and I'm supposed to

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.040
<v Speaker 2>be like the naughty, like hot for teacher girl and

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.319
<v Speaker 2>and she had been on it was probably like their

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 2>fourth season, so she was she had so much experience

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 2>with all the love scenes. She's like the most. She's

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 2>an incredible actress. She's been working for so long. And again,

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.919
<v Speaker 2>so many love scenes me like zero love scenes. And

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I was terrified. And it wasn't that I was that

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't wanting to show up and do everything that

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I was meant to be doing and bringing I was

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 2>so insecure. I was like, worried, I put my hand

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 2>where she put her hand, How is this going to

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:29.880
<v Speaker 2>look like?

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 1>All that?

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:33.720
<v Speaker 2>And she was such a pro and she was so

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 2>kind and we really genuinely talked about choreographing. We choreographed

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 2>the scene. It was in a car, and it was

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 2>like it was I just kept thinking of my head.

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm she felt goes and buckled, hand goes to boob

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 2>and goes to the left, just.

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 9>Nipple.

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<v Speaker 3>I could never be an.

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:00.360
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.240
<v Speaker 2>It was it was a real I mean so, I

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, we again, we choreographed it on our own.

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I think I imagine it might be

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 2>really really great for actors that find that more challenging

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 2>to have someone just really like saying like, here's here's

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 2>what we're doing, and everybody knows what we're doing, so

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 2>no one's surprised by hand going someplace like there's rules,

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 2>there's it's not boundaryless. It's because guys, what we're at work,

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 2>it's not it's not. No one's in a volunteer position.

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 2>And no one's doing this because they want to make

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 2>out someone else. They're doing it because it's a story.

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.720
<v Speaker 3>They're so crazy, it's crazy. It's crazy.

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.439
<v Speaker 5>I put myself in that position, Like I think about

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 5>myself doing that.

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you can't, no, I can't imagine that.

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, nothing would be harder.

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you watch Sex and the City, Oh gosh, I

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>mean not that have not called sexy and just.

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 4>I have not.

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched one frame of it.

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Callie. Callie is yes, there are.

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:08.919
<v Speaker 2>And there Chay.

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.720
<v Speaker 4>We were having this conversation earlier on the podcast about

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 4>how people fall in love with you when they first

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:16.799
<v Speaker 4>see you, right from what they first saw you in

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 4>so then it's like they evolve with you, because what

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 4>a true fan will do. They evolve with you, but

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 4>they'll always remember what they.

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Always remember your first time.

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, and I know what it's like. I mean,

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 2>there are some characters that will live in my mind

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 2>forever that started out as really evil, dark, awful characters

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, never again, Like I will never watch this.

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I cannot see that person.

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah of course, yeah yeah.

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:43.479
<v Speaker 3>You never forget your first time.

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.360
<v Speaker 1>You never You'll never forget.

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:48.799
<v Speaker 5>Never forget that, We'll never forget our first time with you.

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:50.879
<v Speaker 5>We also wanted to pass along our message from our

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 5>good friend Kate Walsh.

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:53.399
<v Speaker 1>She says high, she says, sigh.

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I love her. I love Kate Walsh. You know what,

0:46:56.200 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 2>she 's an incredible role model because she she My

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 2>experience of her is that she is resolutely, confidently and

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 2>supremely herself. I never saw I mean, given that I

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 2>sort of wish that there was not so much people

0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 2>pleasing on my end of things. She is like a badass.

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:15.879
<v Speaker 2>She comes in, she's like, that's what that is. That's

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 2>what that is.

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:18.839
<v Speaker 5>We met her today at the panel and then we

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 5>told her that we were and she was like, oh,

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 5>tell them.

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I said hi, and I was like, oh, I was

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 2>texting with her as we wrap this up, scrubbing in,

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 2>call it what it is?

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Can we promise that we do this again?

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 5>And there's nothing better to me than having any sort

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 5>of podcast with wine.

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 3>Every podcast we have with Wine is like, this.

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Is our first, by the way, you popped our cherry,

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 1>this is our first alcohol pop goes here we go,

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:49.320
<v Speaker 1>our first alcohol podcast.

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 3>These are my favorite. I love them.

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I love it you.

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you for the podcast.

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Cheers call it bought it and we call it scrub

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 2>as we do. Oh yeah, let's call it scrubbing in.

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<v Speaker 6>Mm hmmm.