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Speaker 2: Scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, we are scrubbing it.

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Speaker 2: Scrub a dub dub.

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Speaker 3: We have royalty in the o R, so we're just gonna.

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Speaker 1: Get right to it.

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Speaker 4: Seven year anniversary, Like one of the chances we're doing

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Speaker 4: today are.

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Speaker 3: Actual seven years scrubbing in anniversary.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 5: It is kismet and it actually like makes me emotional

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Speaker 5: that we have the two of you because obviously we've

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Speaker 5: had Camilla. We love you like you are fan favorite,

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Speaker 5: but we've been like feral over getting you Jessica Capshaw.

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Speaker 3: So this is like really just seven am be careful

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Speaker 3: what you wish for.

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Speaker 5: This is like a seven year anniversary gift gift gift gifts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no seriously.

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Speaker 2: Well that makes me so happy. That makes me so happy,

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Speaker 2: That makes my like my heart warm.

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Speaker 3: So we left off.

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Speaker 1: Teeser.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yes, the teaser on If you haven't listened,

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Speaker 4: go listen to part on this episode.

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Speaker 1: Don't call it what it is?

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Speaker 3: Yes, And.

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Speaker 4: The question I ended that part one with was have

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Speaker 4: you kissed a woman since your Gray's Anatomy? Since as

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Speaker 4: Arizona Robbins.

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Speaker 2: I love that that was a teaser question, and when

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Speaker 2: you asked it, you looked straight into my soul.

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Speaker 6: So much.

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Speaker 1: I was like.

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Speaker 2: Me, think about its obvious. No, I have not, but

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Speaker 2: I really had to think about it. The way she

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Speaker 2: was looking at me, I know, I was like, does

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Speaker 2: she know something I don't know? She does know, so

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Speaker 2: so the answer is no, you little tease doing the teasers.

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Speaker 2: I was. I love so much what you what you

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Speaker 2: both just said. I feel so I feel like it's

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Speaker 2: a gift to be in the space because seven years ago,

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Speaker 2: certainly I didn't even know. I don't even know that

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Speaker 2: I knew what a podcast was seven years ago.

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Speaker 5: I really really makes me feel better because we've been

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Speaker 5: trying to get you for a minute.

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Speaker 2: I never I never knew people have been keeping us apart.

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Speaker 5: I know I did like to tread the line of

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Speaker 5: like bandgirl, but we try to keep it professional.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's like professional do.

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Speaker 2: A great the point, but I really did not know.

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Speaker 2: But what I do know is that my first experience

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Speaker 2: not really done, which was doing a live event with

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Speaker 2: Grays started getting watched in the rewatch world.

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Speaker 7: People were streaming, yeah, the streaming world, and so it

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Speaker 7: it enumerated the exposure of the show and just how

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Speaker 7: knowing who was in it, and it was live, and

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Speaker 7: I had never witnessed in person the passion that people

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Speaker 2: So I'd had the like, oh, I likes Anatomy, or

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Speaker 3: Carpet was that where it was.

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Speaker 2: I remember we were there with the whole cast, But

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Speaker 2: remember seeing you too, with your bright and shiny faces

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Speaker 2: and I remember thinking, hold on in my brain, like, Jessica,

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Speaker 2: It with a lot of people, a lot of stuff

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Speaker 3: Wow, that is that is nice.

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Speaker 4: We showed up in scrubs and everyone had their microphones and.

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Speaker 5: Their their lights, like their mic flags, like everybody we

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Speaker 4: Mismatched blue scrubs were like, they're probably who are these girls,

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Speaker 4: But y'all were so one, so kind to us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt like we were like I remember what

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Speaker 4: I remember your outfit, my favorite outfit of the day.

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Speaker 1: I remember that.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually really sad because remember Kevin McKidd was there,

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Speaker 4: You've got him on the show to I told him,

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Speaker 5: I was like, I have hated you for I don't

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Speaker 5: remember how many years since he came.

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Speaker 5: Since he cheated and when Teddy cheated on him, I

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Speaker 5: was like, good for her, you deserve it. And then

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Speaker 5: lovely and so nice that I was like, I love

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Speaker 1: The shift character for like hearing like we hate you,

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Speaker 2: I remember early Owen Hunt was also just always so intense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Owen's just intense. He's more intense you in

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Speaker 2: How intense he was.

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Speaker 2: My can we know? As your question was, did But

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Speaker 2: his part of it was like, you know, it was

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Speaker 4: It was like, oh, dont breathe, just breathe just actually

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Speaker 1: What did he send the kids?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I love it, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a lot. It was just like

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Speaker 4: It was like, I just need to know what y'all

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Speaker 1: I want to know this too.

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Speaker 4: I would never about three people who were thriving excited

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Speaker 1: You were one of them.

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Speaker 2: No, No, there's so many things I can say.

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Speaker 8: Well, I have a little bit of a puppy dog

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Speaker 8: energy in the sense that when someone like gets excited

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay. That's so I was a little puppy

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Speaker 2: Of course we're doing a musical episode. That makes perfect sense,

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Speaker 2: And then once I went to the coaching session where

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Speaker 3: It was impactful though, let me tell you it was impactful.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. And then I was like the chorus for

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Speaker 2: how to Save Life? So you know, I mean I was.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you realized.

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Speaker 5: So Becka has been watching Grey's Anatomy since she was

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Speaker 3: And so I got to the musical episode and she

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I love this episode.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm gonna say something I've I've never

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Speaker 2: said before. Do you remember Seene where CALLI and are

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Speaker 3: Like falls on the orby the finger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the finger wiggle. We had a choreographer for that.

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Speaker 9: With the finger for the fingers, they didn't all literally

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Speaker 2: And I was so afraid of perform by the way,

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Speaker 2: I was just lip syncing, but I I was I

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Speaker 2: even singing or was it actually I don't even.

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Speaker 3: Singing.

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Speaker 1: I definitely think it was a lipsing situation.

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Speaker 2: My no joke choreographer for that finger.

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Speaker 3: Well, I loved it. I think the episode deserved more

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Speaker 3: to be honest, more respect.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, someone sitting to a small minority.

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Speaker 3: I'm in the minority with this.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like I really loved Arizona Robbins, Like

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Speaker 5: to me, she was she was me like I was,

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Speaker 5: like if I were.

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Speaker 1: In a the lesbian thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my lesbian thing, but I would be like skating

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Speaker 5: I loved.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still here. But you know it's so crazy

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Speaker 2: and super nerdy?

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Speaker 9: Is that? So?

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Speaker 2: Did I? And I love that because that means I've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you guys are so actually real.

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Speaker 4: I always thought you were, but I'm realizing that you're sure.

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Speaker 3: You give me beca energy which is not Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Mine is the queer bar.

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Speaker 1: Pointed and she literally roared like you have to ask permission?

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Speaker 2: Burger sabotage Hersha and nannies.

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Speaker 1: I don't call it what it is, which is you

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Speaker 2: No, that's what I was gonna say. What I was

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Speaker 2: I didn't pointed yell.

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Speaker 2: But here's how I'm telling you, what did I like?

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Speaker 2: But that's probably a really good example of what I'm

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Speaker 3: Ye, then I had something to do and I.

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Speaker 1: And it was tough though, because we we it was.

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Speaker 4: Do you feel like you're done with that? But I

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Speaker 2: My mom was an actress. I would go wherever she

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Speaker 2: I cannot have no friends. I cannot, I cannot, I cannot.

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00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: And that's when she had to adjust her life to

448
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 2: create the life in Los Angeles and then go off

449
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: and do jobs. And seventh and eighth grade was really

450
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 2: hard for me because I didn't have any friends. And

451
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: it wasn't until ninth grade that I actually I found

452
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: my people and I understood how the greatest talk about gift,

453
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: I mean, the greatest gift in the world is connection

454
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 2: and feeling like you have a team, feeling like you

455
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 2: have somebody who's gonna notice if you're sick that day. Yeah,

456
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: And I only I honestly think it only takes one

457
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: if you have more grade. But truly, I've always been

458
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: sort of like that's always been my mindset too. I've

459
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 2: never belonged to like one big group of girlfriends. I've

460
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 2: always had, you know, really deep and meaningful relationship with

461
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: a bunch of different people. And I'm a little bit

462
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: of a floater. But those times where you can, you know,

463
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: make friends, that made the difference, and that really was

464
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: the difference between sadness and happiness for me in middle

465
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: school going into high school.

466
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Speaker 1: Wow, that impacts you. It's such an age where you're

467
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: like so imparted to that.

468
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

469
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: Where was the shift after Burger Gate where y'all said

470
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: I love you?

471
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

472
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: I want to be your best friend and do a podcast.

473
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: We were we were slowly warming up a little bit

474
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: towards the end of the season. I remember the episode

475
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: where there's the storm and the lights go out and

476
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: the tree comes in and Alex and Joe have like

477
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 1: their first kiss and Arizona and Cali.

478
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: Wait, what when Arizona chief that cheeze?

479
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: Yes, that episode we had to work together. We were

480
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: doing this with the baby, and I remember feeling like, oh,

481
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: it's getting a little warmer. I was getting warmer vibes.

482
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: And then it was the end of the season and

483
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: there was a rat party and we had we were

484
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 1: friends with so many people that we were friends with

485
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: so many of the same people, and we invited everyone

486
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: to a dinner before the rat party, and nobody showed

487
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: up but us.

488
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: That's so sad that I think that the key part

489
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: of that, as you were talking that were like, no,

490
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: it was substantial.

491
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't like we were being left.

492
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: It was actually it was actually genuinely because they will.

493
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: But as you were telling that story, I just flashed

494
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: on the fact that because we didn't spend a ton

495
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: of time together, and probably because you were new and

496
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 2: I was an I don't know is that when we

497
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: finally had time to be together. I mean the gold,

498
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: the magic, like the thing that you have like no

499
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: other is how funny you are.

500
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: Well, we laugh and you guys do too. We laughed

501
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: so much. You're so funny though, Like, I don't know

502
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: if people realize how funny. They can't.

503
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: They don't.

504
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: They can't they well because.

505
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: They wouldn't know it from Joe Wilson. And I mean, like,

506
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: you're not funny, but like you're funny and you're going

507
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: one You're not serious, she's not funny, but Camilla is

508
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: very funny.

509
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 3: Fun to her finding fun to her.

510
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: No, I mean they've they've written in more comedy over

511
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: the years, but but no, that was like the actually,

512
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: you know what the coolest thing about that dinner was

513
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: because there was a part of me that was like, well,

514
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: grew you for being like a little bit mean. But

515
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: she at that dinner, she said, hey, I'm so sorry

516
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: about that incident. I was feeling just really insecure at

517
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: the time and I was having I just had the baby,

518
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: and I was and I thought that was so fucking cool. Yeah,

519
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: that because it's hard to do and to not just

520
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: say I'm sorry about that moment. That was like not

521
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: I was not feeling it or myself or whatever. And

522
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: then to also like be vulnerable and tell me that

523
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: all her feelings and I was like, I love her.

524
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: I was like, if she wants me best friends, I'm

525
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: in Like, I just love that vulnerable.

526
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: That's tough.

527
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: It's really hard.

528
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: And to say I was feeling insecure and like admit

529
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 4: where you yeah, we're in the wrong, is like that

530
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 4: not I would say, majority of people don't have the

531
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 4: emotional best or maturity to do that.

532
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 3: No, they don't.

533
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: No. And then I love just and then it was

534
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: just love it.

535
00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: And then it was just like it was like.

536
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: Seasons after the season nine, this is twenty twelve.

537
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then how was it for you? When Arizona

538
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: Robbins left the cell?

539
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: That was just.

540
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 4: The meanest thing they've ever done. Honestly, it was happening nowhere.

541
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: It felt so like abrupt and I was like, what happened?

542
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened? So many things? So many things?

543
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: I did you know it was coming?

544
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 9: You know what.

545
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: We talk about this a lot because this is a

546
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: story that has a day some day to be told.

547
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 2: It's not today.

548
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 10: Champagne, bottom of Champagne.

549
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: It was a multi layered situation. Have you ever been

550
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: asked that before? I think this might be the first

551
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: time you've been asked that.

552
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: I've been asked that before, and I've never said what

553
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: I feel, which is that there is a story and

554
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: that I'm just not ready to talk about it.

555
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 9: Then.

556
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: And I will, but I'm just not there yet. So

557
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: when other people have asked me before, I think I've

558
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: just sort of bed and switched. And in the spirit

559
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: of the things that we've been talking about, I think

560
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: can take over and you can just sort of figure

561
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: out how to say, you know, I mean, you can

562
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: say you can pivot, pivot, yeah, and you and and

563
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 2: and that and and and I stand by that that's

564
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: that that was appropriate and and and so yeah, there's

565
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: a time and a place, and there's probably on a podcast.

566
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

567
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: And I think, as with all stories, you know, and

568
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: all experiences, the the one that I would relay is mine. Right,

569
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of different things that were going on.

570
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: I think that you know, there were It's funny because

571
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: there was so much speculation and people were so upset.

572
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: I was devastated, devastating devastated.

573
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: I will speak to that which is that was that

574
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: was very very hard for me to be dealing with

575
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: my own processing and the fans that there was a

576
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: collective sadness or a feeling for those people that did that,

577
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: that that that character was important.

578
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: You just wink at us twice and we can start some.

579
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 5: Somebody can start some petitions like you just give us

580
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 5: the nod and we have a force behind us.

581
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: Let me tell you.

582
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: The scrubbers they are. They're ready to go.

583
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: They want us to People's Choice Awards, so they can

584
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: do anything.

585
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: They can do anything.

586
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: I do actually that and I will say that you

587
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: know what what I what I mean by how how

588
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: I was affected by people's feelings is a true, true

589
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: compliment to the way in which our fans express their

590
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: excitement and their gratitude and their their connection and the

591
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: and just how much it means to them. Because you know, listen,

592
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you know, if we

593
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: screamed it, and if we screamed it into a vacuum,

594
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: it wouldn't matter, right, if it all happen like in

595
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: the middle of the woods where everyone's watching, right, it

596
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: would not be satisfying. It would not be what it is,

597
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: and it is truly because when people say this, and

598
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: you right, but I think they say it because they

599
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: mean it. We're literally nothing without the people who watch

600
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: the show. And so the fact that we have people

601
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: who watch the show with their whole hearts and believe

602
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: and in things and trust in things and and and

603
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: give us as performers on the show their time, it's

604
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: everything I mean. And also it just doesn't happen all

605
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: that often, you know, I mean, not at this level.

606
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: And so when you watch, you know, I'm I love

607
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: being an audience member and I love watching things, and

608
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: I have that feeling when I'm super immersed and I

609
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: completely I'm just double downed on watching something. It's it's

610
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: one of the greatest feelings ever. So the fact that

611
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: I get to be on the other side of that

612
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: sometimes is She's super lucky.

613
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: It's true, though you change. I mean, I literally this

614
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: is like a.

615
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: I've talked about this, like when before I was with

616
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: my girlfriend, before I even had thoughts because I was

617
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: so like Christian that I never even thought of a woman.

618
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: But I was obsessed with Callian Arizona. I would read

619
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: fan fiction of Meredith and Derek and Callian Arizona, which

620
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 4: it's not for someone who's just fully straight, is not

621
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: for if you're reading cal Zona fan fiction Reassessed for

622
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: listeners out there, there's a surprise.

623
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: Coming for you, coming, She's coming, But you did you change?

624
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: Like that relationship game?

625
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 4: I mean it was like one of the first relationships

626
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 4: that a lot of queer people saw that they were like.

627
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: We talked about that in life.

628
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 4: You know, I see I see myself and someone on

629
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: on my TV on a network television show, which was

630
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 4: so important.

631
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: And that I did not see coming from the beginning,

632
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: And when it was revealed that Arizona was gay and

633
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: like absolutely, unapologetically, steadfastly with full permanent and strength of

634
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: heart and conviction and total like when we were talking

635
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: about like which parts of her are me and which

636
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: parts are not? I've never been as confident as Arizona

637
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: is ever. And in the play there were oftentimes where

638
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: I would say to the writers like is there like

639
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: is there any should she play this? Like a little

640
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: unsure of what of what she's thinking, saying, feeling the past.

641
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: And it was always and this is because sometimes you

642
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: just got to trust the system. Ye Shanda and the

643
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: powers that be that were writing those words and creating

644
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: those characters. It was always, always, always Arizona is resolutely,

645
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: always has been, always will be a strong, proud gay woman.

646
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: And that hadn't been happening on television.

647
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, And she was she was a feminine

648
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: and Barbie, Yeah, she's like Barbie, Barbie, literally.

649
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: Do we have that?

650
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: We do? They should be in the.

651
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: Mark it out?

652
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: Mark it out?

653
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

654
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: But I mean I think that that was that was

655
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: a sort of incredible thing that happened, and that was

656
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: that was magic, like that was bigger than all of

657
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: us and m hm. And I do think that it

658
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: was very purposeful sort of having her come in the

659
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: way that she did.

660
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: Camilla.

661
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 4: First of all, do you like you on link together

662
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: on the show?

663
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: Camilla?

664
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: Joe?

665
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: God? This again you guys, I know you hate them together? Skylar? Yeah,

666
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: isn't he here? Yeah, we're talking tomorrow.

667
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 4: But we heard you talk about how like you thought

668
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: that was gonna be Joe's person, And I.

669
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: Was like, yes, well here's what happened. I knew that

670
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: they were going to bring someone in for Joe and

671
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, recur, and I thought like, any we know this,

672
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: any recurring on the show can stand the test of

673
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: time and end up a permanent because you were both

674
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: case and case in point case and point. So they're

675
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: bringing a guy on, and I said, if you bring

676
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: a guy on and he's anything like Alex corrupt, it's

677
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: not gonna work. Right, Like, my pitch for you guys

678
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: is that you bring on someone that's like cute, nerdy, funny,

679
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: like brings out a different side of her. And that's

680
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: kind of where they were going with it. Anyway, they

681
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: were of the same mind, right, And then Christa Vernoff,

682
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: our showrunner, text me and said it's gonna be Skylar Aston,

683
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: who already was like, oh my god, this is gonna

684
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: be amazing because hello, he's fantastic and everything he's in

685
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: and he encompasses all of those things. But you never

686
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: know what chemistry is gonna be like with someone. And

687
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: when he got to set, we met before he even

688
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: started filming. He'd come in for something I forget, maybe

689
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: a costume fitting, and I ran into him. Then we

690
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: walked back to base camp and I was like, Hey,

691
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like your new girlfriend for a little bit,

692
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: and and we just had really natural chemistry, like it

693
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: just worked. And he made me laugh so much. He's

694
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: so charming and and and it was just really easy.

695
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: And I thought this is going to be it. This

696
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: could be it for her because it brought out a

697
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: new side. It was so different, it was lighter, like

698
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: I just thought it could go somewhere. Skyler brooked a show.

699
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: He was not a series regular on our show, and

700
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: he booked and that was it. And but they were

701
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: already teasing, like the Link thing. How do you wait?

702
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: I have to ask you guys, how do you feel

703
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: about Link right now?

704
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 4: Saying, first of all, I love him. He was on

705
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 4: our podcast and we love him as a Yeah, this

706
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: on his.

707
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: Actual Yeah, it's not quite.

708
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: It's not it's not quite.

709
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: About Link and Joe together.

710
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 3: It's just it's just's it.

711
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: It's not you feel like there's chemistry or no, I

712
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: feel like you have chemistry. But it feels very friendly.

713
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: It feels friend chemistry.

714
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: Frank Cam, you have.

715
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: Friend Yeah, not bed Cam, but y'all have.

716
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: Alex, I have Beg camon Allan are you wait hold on,

717
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because I'm not up to speed.

718
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: How deep are we in with Link? Are you married?

719
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 4: Oh?

720
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: Well, well she's at the end of the season last

721
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: year with his baby. Okay, she hasn't told me. People

722
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 1: pregnant all the time. It doesn't matter on the show.

723
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: They're pretty they're pretty deep.

724
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: They're pretty deep. It's not for me.

725
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: Do you feel like they're in game?

726
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: It's not for me. You're not asking me.

727
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: No, no, this is not a spoiler. Last time I

728
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: went in, they gave me a laundry list of reasons

729
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: why it was not going to work. There was something

730
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: he'd done early on our set, and you're like, you're

731
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: they're real pregnant. I I think, yeah, I think yes.

732
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: But what's hard for me too, is you have to

733
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: remember that, like I work with Chris Karmic, I love

734
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: Chris Carmack, is also that element of like when you

735
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: adore the actor you're working with you yeah, yes.

736
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: But also, isn't it funny how sometimes you hear all

737
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: these stories about how when when the actors get along

738
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: really well, it's actually not as much chemistry as when

739
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: the characters and then I don't get along.

740
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 4: That's like Rachel McAdams and Ryan and the Notebook, that's

741
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: a hard one together and they ended.

742
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: Up dating, but they didn't like each other.

743
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: Each other, but they almost had to recast. It was

744
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: so bad. Yes, they did not. I will never forget

745
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: seeing that movie.

746
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: I made my girls watch Jerry Maguire in The Notebook

747
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: to learn what romance.

748
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: Which one they like better.

749
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: They were so hard I rolling when we were watching Notebook.

750
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: I might have gotten them on the tag on the

751
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: attack watch that.

752
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 5: You gotta watch Love Island with them.

753
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: Like I need the romans.

754
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 3: I gotta send up for the kids here I gotta be.

755
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: But by the way I speak, you know, I actually

756
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: did laugh really hard because my girls are now fine.

757
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: They didn't really care about Graysnonomy at all, but then

758
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: all their friends did, and so now they're watching, and

759
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: now they're really into it, and so uh they're both

760
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: at different parts, and uh, I think they just crossed

761
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: over to when I arrived. Arrived, and I keep reading

762
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: like I can't wait to see how this all goes,

763
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: because they know they were there.

764
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: Do you like worry about like your nude stuff?

765
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is my point. So Poppy says to me,

766
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I got the episode. Blah blah blah

767
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 2: blah blah. But then all of a sudden, the door

768
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: opened and you're in the shower with CALLI and I

769
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: look away. Yes, of course it's gonna be weird. But

770
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: when when I was doing when, I mean they were

771
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: all tiny, Yeah, you were basically I don't think that

772
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: on some levels, like I thought I would die there, right.

773
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 5: But again it's also like your it's not I mean,

774
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 5: it's you, but it's not you, you know what I mean.

775
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: Obviously we talked about that a lot. But but again,

776
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm the daughter of an actress and I remember my

777
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: mom did a show one time and I think she like.

778
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 10: Showed her butt and I was like, oh god, yeah,

779
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 10: that could be the day that my kids find out

780
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 10: about Californication is going to be a situation.

781
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 3: Hold are your kids now, I.

782
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: Mean they're watching that. Anytime there's a problem in my household. Yeah,

783
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be a I mean, like, you know,

784
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: another ten years, like that's that's tough, that's I know.

785
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean, ill at school is going to be like

786
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: I saw your mom's for.

787
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: Sure, But that was a while ago. I last year

788
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: was I was going to do something that let's just

789
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: put it this way. We had to. So when you're

790
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: when there's a possibility of you doing nudity. You have

791
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: to like clause it out with your lawyers, like you

792
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: got to have real explicit Have you guys.

793
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: Ever had anyone talk about this with you guys? I

794
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: don't know there was a nudity clause. Tell we gotta

795
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: tell you guys a little bit.

796
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, leave you with this when you are when something

797
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: is written, well, actually I don't even know how to

798
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: describe it. So let's do it together.

799
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 8: Okay.

800
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: You'll read a script and and either the nudity or

801
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: the sex scenes are either explicit or they're just sort

802
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: of like general, like it's not it's not explicit what

803
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: they're going to do. It might just be like and

804
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: they fall into bed and then whatever. But it's not explicit, right,

805
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: It's not like and then her hand goes to and

806
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 2: then his tongue, his tongue, his whatever, whatever whatever combination.

807
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: And if it's explicit, then you know what you're signing

808
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: up for. But if it's just a love scene, then

809
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: you make it need to figure out what as an

810
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 2: actor you're comfortable doing. And so that's when the lawyers

811
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: come in and it becomes very explicit. Like I remember

812
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: having one where it was like and she will.

813
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 10: Show up to the first three quarters of her back

814
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 10: but not below the Yeah.

815
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: I remember in my Californication when it was like literally

816
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: my lawyer called me. He was like, okay, so because

817
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: I was topless, I shot my butt. But they wanted

818
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: to know how far down by the vagina they could shoot.

819
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: So he had to like go through like how like

820
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: how many inches of pubic hair down? And it was

821
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: like that detailed because you had to protect yourself. You

822
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: had to be really specific because they.

823
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: Go down to your butt.

824
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: It could be the butt hole, the butle. I feel

825
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: like I actually clause to the clause.

826
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: Always so we didn't know. We didn't have used to.

827
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: I mean when I was there, we didn't have intimacy coordinators,

828
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: which that I would have been very grateful for.

829
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: We did not, not till last night. But it very

830
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: it's very recent.

831
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 2: It's very recent.

832
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: But the whole industry you just the director telling you

833
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: how to move and what yes.

834
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: And I think that that's always a very sort of

835
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: very talking about vulnerable, a very vulnerable thing because very hard.

836
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: It's also like okay, what's like where is the action happening?

837
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: And is it happening? Like is it between action and

838
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: cut and then are you like, obviously it is, but

839
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: but there's it's just a very nuanced.

840
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: And how many times are you doing that?

841
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: And how many times are you doing it? And also

842
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: where are like where is your hand going? And where

843
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: is your So I was the first time I was

844
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: lesbian on television. I was on The L Word and

845
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: I was myself and Jennifer Peels and I'm supposed to

846
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 2: be like the naughty, like hot for teacher girl and

847
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: and she had been on it was probably like their

848
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: fourth season, so she was she had so much experience

849
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: with all the love scenes. She's like the most. She's

850
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: an incredible actress. She's been working for so long. And again,

851
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 2: so many love scenes me like zero love scenes. And

852
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: I was terrified. And it wasn't that I was that

853
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't wanting to show up and do everything that

854
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: I was meant to be doing and bringing I was

855
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: so insecure. I was like, worried, I put my hand

856
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: where she put her hand, How is this going to

857
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: look like?

858
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: All that?

859
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 2: And she was such a pro and she was so

860
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 2: kind and we really genuinely talked about choreographing. We choreographed

861
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: the scene. It was in a car, and it was

862
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: like it was I just kept thinking of my head.

863
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: I'm she felt goes and buckled, hand goes to boob

864
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 2: and goes to the left, just.

865
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 9: Nipple.

866
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: I could never be an.

867
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: You know.

868
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 2: It was it was a real I mean so, I

869
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: you know, we again, we choreographed it on our own.

870
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: But I mean, I think I imagine it might be

871
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: really really great for actors that find that more challenging

872
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: to have someone just really like saying like, here's here's

873
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: what we're doing, and everybody knows what we're doing, so

874
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: no one's surprised by hand going someplace like there's rules,

875
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: there's it's not boundaryless. It's because guys, what we're at work,

876
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: it's not it's not. No one's in a volunteer position.

877
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: And no one's doing this because they want to make

878
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: out someone else. They're doing it because it's a story.

879
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 3: They're so crazy, it's crazy. It's crazy.

880
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 5: I put myself in that position, Like I think about

881
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 5: myself doing that.

882
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, you can't, no, I can't imagine that.

883
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, nothing would be harder.

884
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: Do you watch Sex and the City, Oh gosh, I

885
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: mean not that have not called sexy and just.

886
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: I have not.

887
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: I haven't watched one frame of it.

888
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Speaker 3: Callie. Callie is yes, there are.

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Speaker 2: And there Chay.

890
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Speaker 4: We were having this conversation earlier on the podcast about

891
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 4: how people fall in love with you when they first

892
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 4: see you, right from what they first saw you in

893
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 4: so then it's like they evolve with you, because what

894
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: a true fan will do. They evolve with you, but

895
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 4: they'll always remember what they.

896
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: Always remember your first time.

897
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and I know what it's like. I mean,

898
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: there are some characters that will live in my mind

899
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: forever that started out as really evil, dark, awful characters

900
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: and I'm like, never again, Like I will never watch this.

901
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: I cannot see that person.

902
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah of course, yeah yeah.

903
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 3: You never forget your first time.

904
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: You never You'll never forget.

905
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 5: Never forget that, We'll never forget our first time with you.

906
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Speaker 5: We also wanted to pass along our message from our

907
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 5: good friend Kate Walsh.

908
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: She says high, she says, sigh.

909
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: I love her. I love Kate Walsh. You know what,

910
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: she 's an incredible role model because she she My

911
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: experience of her is that she is resolutely, confidently and

912
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: supremely herself. I never saw I mean, given that I

913
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: sort of wish that there was not so much people

914
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Speaker 2: pleasing on my end of things. She is like a badass.

915
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 2: She comes in, she's like, that's what that is. That's

916
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: what that is.

917
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 5: We met her today at the panel and then we

918
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 5: told her that we were and she was like, oh,

919
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 5: tell them.

920
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: I said hi, and I was like, oh, I was

921
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: texting with her as we wrap this up, scrubbing in,

922
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: call it what it is?

923
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: Can we promise that we do this again?

924
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

926
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 5: And there's nothing better to me than having any sort

927
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 5: of podcast with wine.

928
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 3: Every podcast we have with Wine is like, this.

929
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: Is our first, by the way, you popped our cherry,

930
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: this is our first alcohol pop goes here we go,

931
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: our first alcohol podcast.

932
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: These are my favorite. I love them.

933
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: I love it you.

934
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for the podcast.

935
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: Cheers call it bought it and we call it scrub

936
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: as we do. Oh yeah, let's call it scrubbing in.

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Speaker 6: Mm hmmm.