WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Trending Topics 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.160 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:25.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This he's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.639 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Howquarters at the 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:40.640 Star in Frisco. Saw and now your hosts, I say 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:47.680 a stand back, Patrick Walker and Kyle Yeoman's. It's a 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:51.720 Fantastic Friday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black Rifle 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.200 Coffee Company, the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. As 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.760 we are live from the SWBC studios at the Star 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.400 in Frisco. It's been I see around the Star this 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.520 last couple of days, and we're finally back on the air. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.400 Glad to be with you. Kyle Yeoman's, I say a 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.000 stand back, Patrick, No, see Walker, We've got Chris Beam 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:12.559 in the back. Guys. Um, I've been out of town 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.760 for a couple of days. Did I miss anything? Yeah? Yeah, 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.520 I mean you missed this weather. Kyle, Okay, there's where 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.880 the heck are you? I was in Mexico for the invite? 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:23.720 Did you get an invite? Getting I did not know 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:25.920 you didn't get enough. I wanted to run around Booty 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:31.160 Button on dog on Beach. You know you were definitely commando. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.800 A visual wasn't prepared for this. He definitely Commando on 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:40.400 the beach. Whoa, now we have to picture Kyle Hammock. Hey, 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.640 there are worse things to think about, all right, I mean, 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.480 come on, what else? What else happened around this Cowboys 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.360 to a couple people, first, first and foremost, Um, dan 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.440 Quinn is sticking around. Hey, that's a good one, massive 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.400 massive keep for the Cowboys. Dan Quinn went on his 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.480 round of interviews with the Cardinals, the Coats, Um, the Broncos, 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.480 and as we all know, he was a front runner 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.760 to land that Broncos position last year before they went 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.519 with Nathaniel Hackett. Thank you for making that mistake, denver Um. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.840 But dan Quinn is sticking around, so huge keep for 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:15.480 the Cowboys. But on the offensive side of the ball, Oh, 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:19.760 there's this guy named Kelvin Moore. Oh yeah, he was 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:24.480 the offensive coordinator keyword, was the offensive coordinator for the Cowboys. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:28.200 No more from twenty nineteen to twenty There's no more. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:33.240 He is in a Cowboys uniforms, no more interesting doing 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.160 m O r E. Did you see that coming? I 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.720 saw it coming. Well, whenever Mike McCarthy said it the 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.760 way that he did in his first conference, how he 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.040 responded to the question about him right the riding was 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.240 on the wall at that point he seemed very hostile. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.760 That was a hostile response. And there was a bit 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.720 of clarification with another thing that happened this week, which 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.640 was the Senior Bowl, and Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:01.000 spoke during their time down in Mobile and Stephen Jones 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.079 said it was a difference in philosophy between Mike McCarthy 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.239 and Kelly Moore that led to the parting of ways 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.079 which are we are we shocked by that? Though I didn't. 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.320 I didn't think not so much, um eyebrow raising, but 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.000 not not shocked, not shocked under anything like the great 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.000 way to put it, eyebrow raising is perfect. And and 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.280 having some conversations with some folks after the decision was 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.520 made to mutually part ways with Kellen Moore. My understanding 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.120 of it is no, it was mutual. My understanding of 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:32.440 it is I can't confirm. My understanding of it was 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.280 that even when McCarthy stood on the podium in and 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.320 said that Kellen Moore is no different from any other 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.400 any other coach and that he must be evaluated. He 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.080 wasn't saying that maliciously, he was just being matter of 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.440 fact with it. And my understanding is when when they 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.600 got down to the evaluation process, we're kind of taking 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.800 a half step back. I think McCarthy kind of expected 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.600 more to still be around, but there was going to 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.240 be some in depth conversation in the evaluation process as 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.120 far as direct where the offense need to go in 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:05.080 twenty twenty three, And in that conversation, I think that's 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.880 where the reality hit for both sides, where it's like, 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.760 you know what, we're we're apart on this. We're apart 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:15.120 on this um And just from my opinion, this is 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.760 my opinion obviously, but as as it relates to Moore's 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:23.400 acceptance of the Chargers offer, that happened so quickly that 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.520 logic dictates that it might have been in his back 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.800 pocket already. There's some murmurs going around in terms of 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.039 potential tampering. Well, I'm not going to go that far. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.919 I'm not saying there's murmurs I'm tampering about what he 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:42.359 had a relationship with with La beforehand. I mean, we 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.120 just haven't have joint practices this year too. Yeah, I 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.920 mean let's just put it this way, because we're they 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:52.560 were hanging out. Yeah, we're definitely not um providing if 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.320 something happens, this is this is just murmurs. I don't. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:05:00.120 Let's just say the tea leaves say what the he 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:09.000 leaves say, and I drink. I would be hard pressed 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:14.200 to believe that that an offer for the offensive coordinator 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:18.000 position in a program like the Charges, who have such 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:22.159 a level of talent offensively that that manifested in fifteen hours. 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.280 He was because he accepted that offer in fifteen hours. 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.120 I should say. Let me, let me put it this way. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.760 That offer became public and final and official from Los 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.440 Angeles in fifteen hours after the decision from it. Probably 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.680 accepted it in the first seventeen minutes, so I see. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.040 But is it also possible, kind of along those same lines, 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.560 that the decision was made around Kellen Moore far before 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.000 it was released, right around the start of the second 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.760 championship game on Sunday. He probably was. I mean, we 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:49.880 were talking to Mike McCarthy on Wednesday, and it was 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.960 a matter of time until that news came out, or 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.039 at least it seemed like it was a matter of 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.560 time until the news came out. Now, I just my opinion. 0:05:58.200 --> 0:05:59.680 I think Kellen Moore is gonna be really good in 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.839 that I believe. I think, I think that system, I 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:07.760 think that scenario resources the resources there. I wouldn't say 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.840 that because the resources here are great, they're good resources here. 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.360 If you're talking about personnel, that's different. Are you talking 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.880 about like Freed, You're talking about like I'm talking about 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.000 the personnel? Yeah, the personnel. Okay, So personnel, Okay, we 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.560 can we can have an agreement on that one. But 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.600 I think he's gonna Yeah, that's why you're making that face. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.280 He's gonna fit that that's mold better. He's gonna fit 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.680 that mold better than he did here. And honestly, I 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.680 think Dallas is better off without him here. It's just 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.160 a fit, I really do. I think this is going 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.000 to be a good fit for both parties. Could be 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.000 which is possible. That happens all the time, and I 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:44.880 think that. Look at the Super Bowl right now. Andy 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.000 Reid left the Eagles and now the Eagles are still 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.640 there again. They have a chance to go back to 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.800 another Super Bowl. Andy Reid's on the Chiefs. It's a 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.120 good fit both ways. And I think from a Mike 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.920 McCarthy standpoint, when when you look at Mike McCarthy having 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.240 set out a season after his from the Green Bay Packers, 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.480 and his whole thing over the course of that season 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.640 that he was out was he was trying to advance 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.680 his coaching style with analytics and things of that nature. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.800 Fast forward to today, and I think that he's going 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.320 to try to take the best of what Kellen Moore 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.240 did and then merge that with what he knows how 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.440 to do. And then we'll see who the OC is 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.720 that comes in. Because Darry Jones said in Mobile that 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.120 is basically a foregone conclusion that Mike is going to 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.800 call the plays, but they're still going to get an OC, 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:30.880 and I think that OC would be more than of 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.320 an advisory role. But if it's if it happens to 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:39.960 be certain individual from Los Angeles, the other Los Angeles team, 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.080 if you get where I'm going with this, ye, then 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.560 that would be very interesting because that person comes in 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:50.120 with McVeigh knowledge, right. So if you can get McVeigh 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.040 knowledge mixed with the best of Kellen Moore mixed with 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.560 the best of Mike McCarthy, get your personnel right at 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:00.840 wide receiver and yeah, and hopefully you can keep the 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.080 band together with polit and Zeke. But that's the discussion 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:08.280 as well. You played in a system with Belichick knowledge, 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:12.880 you played in a system with Pete Carroll knowledge. How 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.480 how much does it it doesn't matter to have different 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.480 inputs because if anything could be said about the Cowboys 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.840 offense this year is at times it was stale. At 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:30.840 times it was mediocre to a concerning degree. Okay, but 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.840 now you have a chance to spice it up a 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.480 little bit and go get some different input some different knowledge. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.400 And you did so with minor roles like Ben McAdoo 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.440 a year ago. You did it with a couple different ways. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.559 But how important is it to go out and get 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.280 a veteran guy like that to come in as an 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.439 offensive coordinator to kind of sprinkle in what Patrick's talking about? 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.079 You have my real opinion? Yeah, I think they just say, 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:52.959 with your chest, it's a Friday, it is Friday. It's 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:54.520 been a while. I think they just let the best 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:58.520 thing they could have had to go. Kely. I really 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.600 think so. I think they should. That has some grown 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.840 man conversations, and I think they should have figured it 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.720 out because I think Kellamore is one hell of an 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.400 offensive coordinator, and he's continued to grow. He's continued to grow, 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.600 he's continue to develop what I see and what I 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.079 saw in film, you know, I watched a good amount 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.280 of it, and you do as well. He had a complex, 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.200 very diverse offense in the beginning of the year. Sure, 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:21.200 they couldn't run it. They couldn't run it's quarterback, couldn't 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:24.400 make the reads. Receivers couldn't read read the coverages. So 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.760 because those guys were unable, incapable at that point in 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.040 time of making the correct reads based upon the defense 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.440 that presented to them, and running the correct routes, going 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.319 the correct ball, going to the correct concepts, all those things, 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.400 he had to dumb it down. He had to dumb 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.120 it down. And even once he dumped dumbed it down, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.319 we saw what happened at in the last game. There 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.320 were guys still running around booty button naked open and 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.560 the ball still wasn't getting to them. And that was 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.840 the most simplistic Jason garrett ish offense we had. We 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.520 had all year long. But look at go back to 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.520 the film in the beginning of the year, look at 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.800 the concepts that were out there. Look at the read 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.600 routes that are out there right, all those combinations, and 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.200 then go to the end of the year playoff games 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.840 and look at that offense. Look how boring and stagnant 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:12.400 that offense was in comparison. He had to adjust. If 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.800 your personnel can't facilitate the offense, you have to adjust 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.720 so that you can give them something that they can handle. 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.680 And again that's just being real and watching the film. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.199 To your point, the offenses that I've been in, I've 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.560 been in some very complex offenses like New England, which 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.600 was absolutely insane. Okay, I've showed y'all some of that stuff. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.959 It was read routes on everything, and you better knowing 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:32.280 what the heck you were doing. You better knew what 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.600 the coverage was, You better know the leverage and all 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.520 that stuff of the defenders so that you can run 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.880 the correct route. We saw some of those mishaps earlier 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.440 in the year where Cede Lamb was unsure about coverage. 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.319 I might remember my taking the top off am I 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.280 coming underneath, and we saw Dak compound those problems by 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.760 throwing the ball incorrectly to the certain guys that was 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.560 them trying to figure out that complex offense which required 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.520 you to be high intellects and be able to make 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.200 the correct reads. When you don't have the ability to 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.439 do that and execute it properly, you have to bring 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.880 it back down to the grade level or high school level, 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.800 which is mirrored routes on the outside, read routes on 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.280 the inside, super simplistic, read the basic coverages, and make 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.840 the correct decision. And those things still weren't happening. So 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.320 now you take a Kelly Moore going out to an 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.520 offense that has more veterans, that has more events, and 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.400 I would say those are high intellect players that he 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.680 has over there, they're gonna they're gonna kill it. In 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.079 terms of what Dallas is gonna do here, I think 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.520 you're gonna see it dumbed down a lot more. You're 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.280 gonna see it dumped down to what you saw more 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.080 towards the end of the year. Now that doesn't mean 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.880 that you can't be successful with that, because I believe 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.360 that you can. West Coast Office, Pete Carroll, you brought 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.880 that up West Coast. Super simple reads for the quarterback, 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:40.680 get the ball out quick, that's what he does right quick. 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.040 Three step drops were from the gun catching throw you 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.240 know what I'm saying, catching one, gallop one some of 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.880 those things, right, there's gonna be easy decisions, but you're 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.000 not gonna see that complex stuff, and you're not gonna 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:51.880 see the ball push down the field nearly as much 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:53.600 as you saw early in the year with Kelly Moore. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.160 Now real quickly, I just want to ask this as 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.480 a follow up, is the fact that it had to 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.959 be so simple toward the back half and it had 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.560 to be dumbed down in the back half. Is that 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:08.000 an indictment on the personnel specifically or could it be 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:12.600 an anictment on the Monday through Saturday comparison and the 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.880 preparation from a coaching staff. It could be both, right, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.360 and we don't know. We never had it, We'll never know. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.880 We just see the result. We see what they were 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.640 trying to do concept wise, and we saw the execution 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:26.920 of it. So where the ball was dropped in between, 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.600 we don't know. But we do know that in the 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.400 beginning year he had read routes, combination routes that were 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.880 adjusting based upon coverages. We do know that Dak had 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.160 certain reads where he should have been looking off coverages 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.079 and coming back to certain concepts that he wasn't doing 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.000 that correctly. He was trying to force the ball. Those 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:41.679 are the things we do know, So we don't know 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.720 what's being taught, if they're being taught the proper reads 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.720 and all that kind of stuff. The adjustments, we don't know. 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.200 We just see the lack of execution on Sundays. I 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.120 think until your point, it could go a little bit 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:56.440 more vanilla, with the exception being if they bring in 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:00.240 someone who is from a McVey tree, for example. If 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.960 that person comes in and they're the offensive coordinator, and 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.920 although McCarthy is playing calling the plays, that doesn't mean 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:11.959 McCarthy is dictator over the game plan, right, So it's 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.880 still going to be a collaborative game plan over the 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:15.640 course of the week. So you're still going to get 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:20.040 those ideas from a McVeigh branch or whomever else might 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.800 be being Brian Shottenheim or whatever the case may be. 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.040 So I think that is going to help keep it 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.120 from becoming vanilla, and we'll see if that's the case. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.320 But I would lean more so on it being a 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:33.800 personnel issue, because if we're comparing the Charger's wide receiver 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.360 corps to the Cowboys wide receiver cords. Okay, well, we 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.640 know that CD dam has ascended to the role of 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.600 wide receiver. One around him, the discussion is no more. 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.600 But Michael Gallup, he just recently had his right knee 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.959 and right ankle scope which is opposite right, which is 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.560 the opposite knee for those that need to be clear 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.520 on that. He tore the ACL in his leftknee. But 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.760 that also goes to let you know that he wasn't 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.560 one hundred percent himself as he was trying to return 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.800 from a torn ACL. You didn't get what you needed 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.680 to get from Jalen Tilbert, who is mostly inactive. T 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.080 Y Hilton came in later in the season on the 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.880 back end of December, so you didn't have a ton 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.920 of reps with him. If you fix the wide receiver 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.880 equation and Michael Gallop is one hundred percent healthy, which 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.160 now I have no um no reservations about it happening 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.160 because you got an entire offseason. Now you're not coming 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.640 back in season to try to figure it out. Now 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.520 you have an entire offseason program, So figure that out 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.960 with well, ceedee Lamb is there. Let's assume Gallop is healthy. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.960 Wide receiver threes, which you really got to figure out. 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.479 They're going to talk again to ob J who presumably 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.080 is healthy. Now he's starting to release those workout of 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:39.000 clips out. Yeah, now they're starting to come out to 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.560 see no coincidence. So two things real quick before I 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:43.280 know you got go on. We got so many topics. Yep. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.720 I don't think it's personnel. I don't think it was 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.520 personnel in terms of la thereof this year. I think 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.920 the personnel was there. It was good enough to get 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.400 the job done, right, I think you could. Obviously you 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.400 always wish you had more, right, you wish you had 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.920 more weapons, you know, like say France, like Philly, like 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:00.200 oh you know all those teams that were that we 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.880 saw progress. We wish you had more, but you didn't. 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.840 But that's my point. When they had more no pun intended. 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.680 Yeah yeah, but when they had more than the hydro 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:13.920 coop Lamb a healthy gallop. You saw what the three 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.360 thousand yard receivers the top, it was the top. So 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.000 the defense in the league drop Cooper out via trade. 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.120 Now you're it's not healthy. Lamb does what he needs 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.760 to do, but from there the personnel doesn't match up. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.120 I agree, I agree, I do believe that t Y 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:32.200 Hilton during his time here was underutilized severely, a whole 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.320 year underutilizing. If you go back and watch the film, 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.240 in that last game, this dude was open the whole game. 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:39.840 Simplistic offenses because cold and a lot of people are 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.640 gonna kind of jump on the ship. Oh that's not fair. 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.600 Simplistic offenses in the NFL work if everybody's on one 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.200 a court. I ad the forty nine Ers. The forty 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.840 nine Ers don't run a complex offense at all. The 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.280 fact that you can go down to quarterback number three 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.360 and be very successful, let you know that that offense 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.240 is not complex. Those guys are running very simple routes. 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.640 But that offensive coordinator was just our freaking genes in 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.880 terms of keeping everybody in the same page, taking the 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.520 same things and motions and personnel groupings and all that jazz. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.640 So that's that's an opportunity for everybody to understand that 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.680 McCarthy can do two very similar schemes, okay, and be 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:18.480 very successful. I'm just saying that Kellen Moore brought it 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.160 from up here and had to bring it down, and 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.960 that happened over the course of the season, not just 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.480 this year, but you could say it happened last year 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:30.000 as well. Correct, happened at the same time. Oh, lots 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.040 to talk about nuts. But there's Kellen Moore. We'll talk 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.400 plenty more about that as the off season goes along. 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.360 I'm sure we're gonna talk about him to more and more. 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:41.440 All right, let's take our first break when we come 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.960 back here on Talking Cowboys. What personnel changes could be 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:49.560 on the horizon, including two big name guys that could 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.360 either be let go or extended. 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Glad you're with us here on 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.919 this Say it with your chest Friday offseason addition, And 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.919 that's exactly what we're doing because we've got a lot 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.359 to talk about. Like we said, so, we've got Kellen 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:25.680 Moore and talked a little bit about dq DQ and 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.199 that he's coming back. We'll save that the majority of 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:33.200 that topic for later. Jayron Curse headed for surgery, right, yeah, 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.199 several several of the players are. And let's preface it 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.679 with this. This is um this is get right season, correct, 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.760 Ladies and gentlemen. Typically immediately after the season concludes, whenever 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.120 that might be a usc guys starting to get cleanup procedures, 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.800 and these are cleanup procedures. Michael Gallops his right knee 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:52.159 and right knee were scoped. That's a cleanup procedure. Jayron 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:56.600 Curse is finally getting that shoulder issue situated via procedure. 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.439 It was scheduled for yesterday on Thursday, but we've had 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.159 the winter ice storm here, so we'll see if it 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.080 happens in the next couple of days. But for those 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:06.240 that might have forgotten, he entered that shoulder on Thanksgiving 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.439 and he was playing through whatever since and then of 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.080 course he was playing through the knee issue. But there's 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.199 no procedure schedule for the knee, so that's that's a 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.320 good sign there, um, and it just goes from there. 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:20.280 Tyron Smith is having clean up work done. I mean, 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.000 the list goes on and on. They're like six or 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:25.240 seven guys. Luke Gifford. Luke Gifford is the only one 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.320 that's not being deemed quote unquote clean up because he's 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:32.920 having surgery or had surgery if it's already occurred on 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.240 a core muscle, so you know, the core muscle is 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:36.960 a little bit more serious, so he's going to need 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.760 the time to recover everyone else. Let's see who we got. 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:46.720 We got cursed clean up, Tyron, clean up, Um Gifford. 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:55.359