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Speaker 1: in Frisco. It's been I see around the Star this

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Speaker 1: last couple of days, and we're finally back on the air.

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Speaker 1: Glad to be with you. Kyle Yeoman's, I say a

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Speaker 1: stand back, Patrick, No, see Walker, We've got Chris Beam

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Speaker 1: I mean you missed this weather. Kyle, Okay, there's where

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Speaker 1: the heck are you? I was in Mexico for the invite?

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Speaker 1: Did you get an invite? Getting I did not know

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Speaker 1: you didn't get enough. I wanted to run around Booty

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Speaker 1: Button on dog on Beach. You know you were definitely commando.

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Speaker 1: A visual wasn't prepared for this. He definitely Commando on

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Speaker 1: the beach. Whoa, now we have to picture Kyle Hammock. Hey,

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Speaker 1: there are worse things to think about, all right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, what else? What else happened around this Cowboys

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Speaker 1: to a couple people, first, first and foremost, Um, dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn is sticking around. Hey, that's a good one, massive

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Speaker 1: massive keep for the Cowboys. Dan Quinn went on his

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Speaker 1: round of interviews with the Cardinals, the Coats, Um, the Broncos,

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Speaker 1: with Nathaniel Hackett. Thank you for making that mistake, denver Um.

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Speaker 1: But dan Quinn is sticking around, so huge keep for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But on the offensive side of the ball, Oh,

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Speaker 1: there's this guy named Kelvin Moore. Oh yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator keyword, was the offensive coordinator for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: No more from twenty nineteen to twenty There's no more.

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Speaker 1: He is in a Cowboys uniforms, no more interesting doing

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Speaker 1: m O r E. Did you see that coming? I

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Speaker 1: saw it coming. Well, whenever Mike McCarthy said it the

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Speaker 1: way that he did in his first conference, how he

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Speaker 1: That was a hostile response. And there was a bit

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Speaker 1: of clarification with another thing that happened this week, which

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Speaker 1: spoke during their time down in Mobile and Stephen Jones

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Speaker 1: said it was a difference in philosophy between Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: which are we are we shocked by that? Though I didn't.

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Speaker 1: not not shocked, not shocked under anything like the great

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Speaker 1: way to put it, eyebrow raising is perfect. And and

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Speaker 1: having some conversations with some folks after the decision was

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Speaker 1: made to mutually part ways with Kellen Moore. My understanding

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Speaker 1: of it is no, it was mutual. My understanding of

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Speaker 1: that even when McCarthy stood on the podium in and

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Speaker 1: said that Kellen Moore is no different from any other

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Speaker 1: But how important is it to go out and get

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Speaker 1: It was read routes on everything, and you better knowing

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Speaker 1: So I know you were with five for your training staffs,

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Speaker 1: and I've been with some good chis chaffs and these

429
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Speaker 1: guys are amazing. Yeah. Yeah, So, and it's a well

430
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Speaker 1: known thing throughout the league. There's why there's reasons why

431
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Speaker 1: people look to the Cowboys training staff whenever they're in

432
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Speaker 1: the Combine and they're at the Senior Bowl and they're

433
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Speaker 1: doing all this different stuff. Some of these guys on

434
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Speaker 1: Clark big big thing for that. So outside of the

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Speaker 1: injury report, which we just gave a little little w

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Speaker 1: w R D we rob do, but let's talk about

437
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Speaker 1: some personnel changes that could be on the horizon for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, starting at the running back position. We miss

439
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Speaker 1: some of the other coaches, Kyle Oh, go for it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who were some of the other coaches. Number one,

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Speaker 1: Doug nust Meyer. Yep, he's out quarterback coach. Quarterback coach,

442
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Speaker 1: and we those go back to the previous episode of

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys and we spoke about how it was time

444
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Speaker 1: to move on from Doug nust Meyer. So he's moved on. Um,

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Speaker 1: Skip Pete. That's a tough one. That sucks. That's a

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Speaker 1: tough one to sap an agreeance with that. UM running

447
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Speaker 1: backs coach, Skip Pete. He saw what he did for

448
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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliot. So he did in the breakout season last

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Speaker 1: year with Tony Pollard. Um. Yeah, that's so we'll see

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Speaker 1: where the Cowboys go with that. Um. George Edwards another

451
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Speaker 1: big loss. Yeah, that was big. Another big loss, George Edwards.

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Speaker 1: Was that happened before Dan Quinn came back and we

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Speaker 1: thought that that was writing. Yeah, we thought that was

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Speaker 1: gonna Quinn was Quinn was gonna see that and say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna move on. Rob Davis, Rob David,

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Speaker 1: another one, Rob Davis, which is the right hand man

457
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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. Yeah, quite literally the right hand man and

458
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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and McCarthy was actually fighting back some emotions

459
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Speaker 1: talking about some of these coaching losses, in particular Rob Davis,

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Speaker 1: one who's really close to him personally. Um so Rob Davis,

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Speaker 1: the assistant head coach, Doug nuss Myer, Skip Peach, Skip Pete.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, George Edwards. Joe Philbin offensive line coach. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm torn on Philbin in that I and we talked

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Speaker 1: about it. I love what Philbin was able to do

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Speaker 1: in the face of adversity multiple multiple years. I love

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Speaker 1: what he was able to do in the progression of

467
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Speaker 1: Terrence Steele and in the first year of Tyler Smith

468
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Speaker 1: having to move him around but still seeing Tyler Smith

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Speaker 1: for the most part excel at either position. Still got

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Speaker 1: some growing pains, obviously the penalties would talk about down

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Speaker 1: the road. But Joe Philbin did some really good things.

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Speaker 1: He did that said I, I could also see why

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Speaker 1: they'd be looking to bring someone else at attitude. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's no knock to Philban because we

475
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Speaker 1: said we were fine with philby remaining but then moving

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Speaker 1: on from him, much like the Kelly Moore question, are

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Speaker 1: we shocked, No not? He was. He was the hood mechanic.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Joe Philman was the hood mechanic, I

479
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Speaker 1: know where go? Yeah, you know, like the hood mechanic

480
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Speaker 1: would patch it up. Yeah, he gonna can you gonna

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Speaker 1: get it running, right, he gonna get your running. He's

482
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Speaker 1: gonna run a tip top shaping, but it'll get you

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Speaker 1: to the crib absolutely, and he'll patch that thing up

484
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Speaker 1: called the hood mechanic. He'll make it work. That's what

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Speaker 1: Phil was. You know, you handed something terrible, you know,

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Speaker 1: an old school car. He patches it up to get

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Speaker 1: you home. So shout out to Philman, A big those

488
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Speaker 1: to him. He had to work through a lot of

489
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Speaker 1: ton and he gave Dallas an opportunity to win ball

490
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Speaker 1: games when everybody thought that they had zero chance. And

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Speaker 1: let's leon Lett also part of that's a long obviously,

492
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Speaker 1: And when we say long term relationship with the Cowboys,

493
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Speaker 1: we're talking about pre coaching as well. So Leon Lett

494
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Speaker 1: has a long term relationship with this organization as a

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Speaker 1: player and as an assistant coach, assistant position coach. So

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Speaker 1: he's out as well. So so how many coaches in total?

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Speaker 1: You said eight? Um about that? About that, it's a

498
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Speaker 1: lot of people. It's a lot of turnover in a

499
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Speaker 1: short amount of time to the ball. Yeah, and they

500
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Speaker 1: they've already hired a new offensive line coach. Now they're

501
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Speaker 1: still looking for a bunch of these other guys. He

502
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Speaker 1: came from Seattle and he's been here before. Coach way

503
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Speaker 1: back when tell him who was the coach, didn't go

504
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Speaker 1: and get get my monk. One guy named Tom Landry

505
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Speaker 1: was the head coach whenever he was on the staff.

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Speaker 1: Was that the guy with the fed Yeah, that was familiar.

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Speaker 1: Eighty five to eighty eight I think he was here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it was like eighty six, eight eighty eight

509
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Speaker 1: or something like that. Uh crazy. Hey, if we're talking

510
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Speaker 1: about getting some mctain knowledge, I mean we're gonna get

511
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Speaker 1: some Tom Landry knowledge up in the There's nothing wrong

512
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Speaker 1: with getting some time. I ventured to say that lander

513
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Speaker 1: shift isn't going anywhere. Yeah, Yeah, safe to say that's

514
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Speaker 1: gonna stay, gonna keep keep coming. We'd like to see

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Speaker 1: more of it. Yeah, I know we're gonna play a personnel,

516
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Speaker 1: But I didn't know we had a lot of coaches.

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Speaker 1: We know. I'm glad you hit that. I'm glad you

518
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Speaker 1: hit that coach. There's a lot of guys. Best of

519
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Speaker 1: luck to all the guys that are no longer in

520
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Speaker 1: the building. Those are tough ones. Yeah, both those guys

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Speaker 1: were great while they were here. All right, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about Skip Pete's position, running back Ezekiel Elliott, And this

523
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Speaker 1: was quoted by Jerry and Stephen absolutely a player that

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Speaker 1: was that the Cowboys would like to bring back. They

525
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Speaker 1: were both on the same page when talking about the

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Speaker 1: running back returning. They want him to return. However, here

527
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Speaker 1: was the quote, you always want Zeke, but do the

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Speaker 1: numbers work. You can't define what Zeke does for our

529
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Speaker 1: football team. You could probably define it, but he's just

530
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Speaker 1: saying stat wise, statistically, which is you know, that's always

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Speaker 1: what I lean on. He doesn't show the whole picture,

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Speaker 1: That's what he's saying. He's saying, the statistics don't show

533
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Speaker 1: his value. He's what he does in the locker room,

534
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Speaker 1: what he does on the fields, off the field. It's

535
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Speaker 1: all how he's embraced the change of the position with

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard getting more reps and and basically saying outright,

537
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Speaker 1: he's like, hey, yeah, he's he's the explosive guy, and

538
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Speaker 1: I'm the guy that's going to pound you into the ground.

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Speaker 1: And when you talk about prior to lack thereof this

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Speaker 1: that's unbridled maturity for Ezekiel Elliott. Compare those kinds of

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Speaker 1: comments that we've been seeing from Ezekiel Elliott when incessantly

542
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Speaker 1: asked the Tony Pollitt question over the course of this

543
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Speaker 1: past season to the twenty sixteen version of Ezekiel Elliott. Though,

544
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: this is a grown man right now, and this is

545
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Speaker 1: one of the leaders of the locker room, much like

546
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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, is much like de Marcus Lawrences and Layton

547
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Speaker 1: vander Est. So that's what Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones

548
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Speaker 1: mean when they say it's hard to quantify everything that

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Speaker 1: Zeke brings to the table, and it's easy to look

550
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Speaker 1: at this, you know what he's doing statistically and say, okay,

551
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Speaker 1: well there's a little bit of a downturn there. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's it's also fair to say there's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a downturn on Zeke because there is a lot

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Speaker 1: of an upturn on Tony Pollard. So the question becomes,

555
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: can they retain Tony Pollard? And how can you do that? Well,

556
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Speaker 1: it's really easy. Tap again, Yeah, the easy button. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: HiT's the easy button. How much gonna hit him? For

558
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Speaker 1: point one? Ten? Point one, which is not bad for

559
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 1: a guy that impacts your offense as heavily as Tony Pollard.

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Speaker 1: Is he more impactful? Straight question? He more impactful to

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Speaker 1: adult shows? Absolutely? Then that's what you're paid, not even close,

562
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Speaker 1: not even closed. There you go. You paid Dalton ten

563
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Speaker 1: point nine? Okay? Did is that your salary? Oh? God?

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Speaker 1: I wish. The problem with the Zeke dilemma right now

565
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Speaker 1: is the money that will be owed. It's a seventeen

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Speaker 1: million dollar cap hit next year, followed by fifteen million,

567
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Speaker 1: followed by seventeen again, followed by sixteen point six. So

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Speaker 1: right now is the best time to restructure this potential out.

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Speaker 1: That's the middle of this contract. Who's been talking about

570
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: this for two years? What podcasts on this network's been

571
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: talking about this potential out for two years? Now? Cowboys,

572
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: this is this is the time to do it. If

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Speaker 1: you don't restructure it, all of your leverage is gone

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Speaker 1: for the most part, because right now, if you were

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Speaker 1: to cut Zeke, his dead cap for one year would

576
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Speaker 1: be about twelve million. So instead of sixteen plus fifteen

577
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Speaker 1: plus seventeen plus sixteen again, it would be twelve million. Done,

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Speaker 1: You're out. So the leverage is on the Cowboys side. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you don't do it this year, you're going to

580
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Speaker 1: be in trouble. What number are you comfortable with bringing

581
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Speaker 1: Zeke back? At anything less than probably the franchise tag

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Speaker 1: per year? If you're giving me a per ninety year

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Speaker 1: right now, what's your what's your comfort? Too much? What's

584
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: your comfort? Both of y'all? Give me six or seven? Okay?

585
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: I would do that. And that's a lot for what

586
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: he's turned into, which draw, third down, back, short yard

587
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Speaker 1: and situation red zone? Guy, what do you think? I'm

588
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Speaker 1: just doing a math in my head. If I tag polar,

589
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Speaker 1: which I'm willing to do, that's ten million off the table.

590
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Speaker 1: How much am I willing to commit to the position?

591
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Speaker 1: Is what I'm thinking about. If you're the cap just

592
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: got raised, the camps got raised by almost twenty million dollars,

593
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: that's a huge message. That's am Cooper on the roster.

594
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Speaker 1: I know that's as salt in the wound, but that's

595
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Speaker 1: twenty million a year, and that's what I'm already made.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do ten to both. So if I'm doing

597
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Speaker 1: ten to one, I gotta go down on the other

598
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Speaker 1: and seven and a half. Let me. See that's I

599
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Speaker 1: was thinking. I'm thinking five when when he was bringing

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Speaker 1: up how much you commit crossing over into disrespect, Well,

601
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Speaker 1: I hear you, I get it. And that's why that's

602
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Speaker 1: why I bring the question up, because there has to

603
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Speaker 1: be a discussion between hey, we value you, got patty,

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Speaker 1: you got you got rubbit shoulders. We had this conversation, Yeah,

605
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: hey we value you, we love you. It's his agent,

606
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Speaker 1: but it's his shoulders and five million ain't got the

607
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: con I hear, I hear you, But I mean to

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00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: your point, we'll get to more personnel. There's a lot

609
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Speaker 1: of other guys that have to get taken care of

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Speaker 1: fair and what his agent is going to point out,

611
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: fairly enough, is what we just pointed out. There's almost

612
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Speaker 1: a twenty million dollars salary cap bump. And then you

613
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: get to point in other positions and say, you know what,

614
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: you could go ahead and extend your quarterback. And if

615
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: you extend back, you you could save almost thirty million

616
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Speaker 1: dollars in cap this year alone. That's our next topic

617
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Speaker 1: of conversation. We'll get to that. So so if I'm

618
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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elios agent, yes, I'm amicable to a pay cut

619
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Speaker 1: or a restructure, but at the same time, it has

620
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Speaker 1: to be a respectful call. He's supposed to get how

621
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Speaker 1: much this year eleven the cap hit is sixteen point

622
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Speaker 1: seven that's what hitleven point eight if they cut him,

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Speaker 1: if they were to if they cut him, it would

624
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Speaker 1: be a dead cap of eleven twelve million. Let's just

625
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Speaker 1: say twelve. So if you're if you're talking eight, if

626
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Speaker 1: you're talking eight million, nine million, thanks for reserving to

627
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Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you, Ezekiel Elliott. I'm willing to with

628
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Speaker 1: all the all else that can be done. I'm willing

629
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Speaker 1: to commit seventeen and a half to the running back position.

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Speaker 1: A lot it is, But when you look at what

631
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Speaker 1: you're committing too, though, look at what you're committing to.

632
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Speaker 1: You're committing to a tandem that's arguably the best RB

633
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Speaker 1: tandem in the game right now. And you're not over

634
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: committing just yet because ten million of that is the

635
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Speaker 1: franchise tag for Tony Pollard. That gives you a chance

636
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Speaker 1: to revisit this whole situation in twenty twenty four. That

637
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Speaker 1: was gonna be my next question. That point where Mollie

638
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: Davis in this equation with it being seventeen million, wouldn't

639
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: you rather just extend Pollard? But I see what you're saying, No,

640
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: no long term commitment for the running back positions, and

641
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: you absorb a lot of that with the bump in

642
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: the salary cap over last year, you could absorb even

643
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: you could free up that much more money with a

644
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: restructure on Zach mar and DeMarcus Lawrence. You could restructure

645
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: or just outright extend Dak Prescott, which will get to

646
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: there is no shortage of triggers that can be pulled

647
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: to make that easy. And not only easy, but power

648
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: like seventeen and a half for one year is very

649
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: very palatable. If that's going to keep this duo in

650
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: tandem on that in the roster in a season where

651
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: you're also switching play callers and offensive coordinators. How much

652
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: change are you willing to take on. I'm willing to

653
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: pay seventeen and a half million dollars at the position,

654
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: So that part of it, the point of it, I

655
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about because I'm still working out

656
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: play calling an offensive coordination. But lost Skip Pete. You

657
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: did lose Skip Pete. I don't think people understand how

658
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: valuable he is you did. I really don't. Well, he

659
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: understood that scenario better than anybody. Yeah, gosh, and he's

660
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: a real one man. Yeah, there's a shortage of real

661
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: ones out there, Kyle. He knows both of those guys

662
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: like the back of their hand. Part of the reason

663
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: why the whole turning over the position was so well

664
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: received by Zeke was probably because of Skip Pete. Yeah.

665
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the words that Skip Pete we're telling

666
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: to Zeke, telling to Pollard that that's why there was

667
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: no animosity about each other, the raids, the names, the

668
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: tandems that he had worked with. Everywhere he's been, the

669
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: running back room has been solid successful. And I mean

670
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't know the conversations that happen behind the scenes, right,

671
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: I haven't spoke with Skip and understand, you know the

672
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: complexities asked to why he's no longer here. But that's

673
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: that's a valuable piece that people out there need to

674
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: understand that Dallas Cowboys just lost. Whether they lost it,

675
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: whether they got rid of them, whatever, however you want

676
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: to however you want to place it. He is a

677
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: real one in the sense that he holds guys accountable.

678
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: That was my issue with him. Leaving. That was my

679
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: issue with Rob Davis leaving, leaving and Edwards leaving right

680
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: he they all those guys held guys accountable, and I

681
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: hate when locker rooms, in front office and coaching staffs

682
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: lose guys that are outspoken and that will call out

683
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: bs and hold guys accountable when they see it, because

684
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: there's a shortage of that. So many people are concerned

685
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: with keeping their jobs nowadays that they will go hush

686
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: when something needs to be said. They will they will

687
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: be mute and reserve themselves from saying the things that

688
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: need to be said to keep everybody on one accord

689
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: and keep everybody at a certain level of expectation. Those

690
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: those three guys, especially Skippet, because that's a guy I'm

691
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: closest with out of those three. He would not hold

692
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: his tongue if he saw some mess going on. He

693
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: would call you soft, if you're playing us off, if

694
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: you need to old school ball, old school old schoolball coach,

695
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: gosh period. He's going to be a very difficult one

696
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: to replace, So I'm all lines on seeing who they

697
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: bring into replace Skip Pete. It's just phenomenal human being, good,

698
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: good old fashioned, old schoolball coach and just really really

699
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: good at what he did. I just hope they don't

700
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: bring in a yes man. That's my biggest thing. Yeah,

701
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: just don't bring in a yes man. So we've already

702
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: gotten one response. It's like two or three million dollars

703
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: tops the heck out of here. But here's the thing

704
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: that's that's what the value might be for what he brings.

705
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: But there's no way that conversation would even start. No,

706
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: there's no way you would even get the conversation. Person

707
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: doesn't love the coun they like the Colnboys, they don't

708
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: love the coupun number one. But that's what I'm saying.

709
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: It would it would have to take. I'd probably say

710
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: four to eight anywhere in that window the conversations have

711
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: agree because if it's over eight, the Cowboys aren't interested.

712
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: If it's under four, Zeke's parties not interested. So that's

713
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: where that's where you're at with I really think, I

714
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: really think the numbers five. I personally think the numbers five.

715
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: I could see five. The good news is, I feel

716
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: like both sides are willing to have the discussion. Nobody's

717
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: throwing the hard line on the sand right now. Cowboys

718
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: where he's at in his career. Yeah, he knows where

719
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: he's at. You know, somebody's aren't drawing the Amari Cooper

720
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: line in the sand, saying, you know what, we could

721
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: restructure and move this money around and save. But when

722
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: you're just going to go ahead and part ways, when

723
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: you're not there, and Zeke isn't saying, oh well, if

724
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: if we try to reduce them, he's The thing is,

725
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: when you're at that point of your career and you

726
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: understand the value you have with that organization, the last

727
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: thing you want to do is try to start jumping

728
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: ship because you know that you'll never be that guy again.

729
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: So if I'm never gonna be that guy again, then

730
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: I just stay put listen. And I said, I've said

731
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: this all season long as it relates to and again,

732
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking four Ezekiel Elliott speaking about Ezekiel right.

733
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: I've said multiple times, even before reports came out that

734
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott would be willing to take a pay cut,

735
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: I said, I could see why he would be willing

736
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: to take one, and I believe that he will be

737
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: willing to take one because he understands and he said it,

738
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: he understands that if if I Ezekiel Elliott and willing

739
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: to take less to remain in Dallas, and that less

740
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: allows you to keep Tony Pollard, I just extended my career.

741
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: You just in the point that you just brought up.

742
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: And this is when the brotherhood comes in. And I

743
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are saying, hey, you know,

744
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: everybody's selfish. You're talking about themselves when you care about

745
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: the other guy that's in there room with you like

746
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: he cares about Tony Pollard. I'm willing to take a

747
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: back seat, right and whether I'm forced to or take

748
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: a back seat or whatever, like, I'm willing to humble

749
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: myself and put myself financially right in a disadvantage to

750
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: ensure that my guy gets the bag because he's been

751
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: riding with me for a minute, being in the shadows,

752
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: and now I recognize and I'm now taking a step back.

753
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: I want to keep this thing together. It is your time,

754
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: You're time to shine. They will extend each other's career

755
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: absolutely if they stick together. If they stick together, that's

756
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: a good point. Which if that's the case, the leverage

757
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: would I think fall in favor of Zeken in terms

758
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: of excuse me in terms of the Cowboys, in terms

759
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: of that that contract negotiation. So maybe it would be

760
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: a lower number, but no two or three million. Ye,

761
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: he'll walk before you even have a conversation. I think

762
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: I think it's four to eight is the window for

763
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: the topic of conversation to even start. Ideal number probably

764
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: five or five and a half. I think that's probably

765
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: where we're at. All right, let's take our second break.

766
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Speaker 1: When we come back, let's talk about the quarterback position.

767
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: It's been a fun topic lately. Let's talk about Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: Is he going to receive a contract extension and what

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Speaker 1: to Talking Cowboys. Back here on Talking Cowboys, final segment

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Speaker 1: of Say It with Your Chest Friday offseason edition. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back at our normal time starting next week, which

808
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: is Tuesdays at eleven. Is it eleven or ten? Beamer? Yeah,

809
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: you got that in front of you. We haven't had

810
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: a normal off season show yet, so it's kind of

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00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: hard to really tell. Ten o'clock on Tuesdays? Is that

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00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: what you said? Okay? Cool? So yeah, ten o'clock on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Put it on your calendar. I need to put it

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Speaker 1: on mine for this upcoming Tuesday and throughout the rest

815
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Speaker 1: of the offseason. Patrick no c Walker, Isaiah stand back,

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Speaker 1: Chris Beam, I'm Kyle Yeoman's let's talk about the quarterback

817
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: position looks. So of course, both Jerry Jones and Stephen

818
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: talking during the media session or at least a quick

819
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: media session during the Senior Bowl, would ask if he

820
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: would if the Cowboys would be interested in contract talks

821
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: with the QB again, which would include an extension and

822
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: lower his cap hit. They said, Dak is going to

823
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: be our guy for hopefully the next ten years. You

824
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: say that it's a long time because he's already played

825
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: six or seven, but I think Dak will play is

826
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: long or play that long because he takes care of

827
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: himself and he's driven to be great, and we fully

828
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: expect him to be here for the next ten years.

829
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: So if they want that to happen, they've got two

830
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: years left on his contract. Of course, Dak's original numbers

831
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: were some of the top in the league. If you

832
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: haven't taken a chance to look at where he ranks,

833
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: now take a look, because right now, the media or

834
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: the market for a quarterback position, Daniel Jones right now

835
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 1: is expected to receive a contract of about four years,

836
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty million dollars. That is exactly the

837
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: contract that Dak Prescott was given. And that's for Daniel Jones.

838
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: So even though it was the top quarterback contract in

839
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: the league for a split second, it's not anymore. You're

840
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: actually saving a significant number of cash on his contract

841
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: right now. But you can even do better than that,

842
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: and you can extend him while his value is lower,

843
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: and you can try and pull that out over the

844
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: next five or six years instead on the next two

845
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: or three. So, Isaiah, when you look at Dak, are

846
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: you confident enough to extend him? But are you also

847
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: you're kind of hedging your bets bets by extending him

848
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Speaker 1: at a lower contract. Hit, I'm not extending him based

849
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: off of performance. If that's what you're asking, I would

850
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: extend him for organizational structure right in terms of the

851
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: salary cap, hits and all the things that you were

852
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: starting to starting to touch on the thought of extending

853
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: Dak right now. I don't like it personally. Now, kudos

854
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: to him, he gets extension and all that, Jazz, I

855
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: hope the best all that, But business wise, in terms

856
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: of performings and getting this team to where you want

857
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: them to be, I can't give him extension. Not me.

858
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm all about performance. If you're not putting out, you're

859
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: not putting out, and I'm gonna get somebody here to

860
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: compete with you. Either you they're gonna get pushed into

861
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: that position that I want you to be in, or

862
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: this person's gonna ascend and hopefully take us there. I

863
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: don't see. I don't see the benefit aside from a

864
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: salary cap and extending him. That's about as blunt as

865
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: I can beya, salary cap wise, it's it's obvious if

866
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: the Cowboys extend him, and this is per overthcap dot com,

867
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: they get twenty three point nine roughly twenty three point

868
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: nine million dollars in savings both this year and twenty

869
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: six point two million dollars in savings next year. We'll

870
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: hold up twenty nine this year if they were to

871
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: re extend. If they were to extend him twenty three

872
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: point seven, that is a lot of extra cast of

873
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: extra three ballers a ton. That's it's I mean, look

874
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: at the guys that they signed with the twenty million

875
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: from Amari. They signed Anthony Barr, they resigned late Vander

876
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: esh Darnce Armstraw. I believe jay Ron Curse was probably

877
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: into that mix as well. I mean, they got guys MALIEK.

878
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: Cooker there that's a lot of it just off one player.

879
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: That's one triggers wise, it makes more than sense. It's

880
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: just it's right there now production wise. Here's why I'm

881
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: fine with it, because you've seen what a help with

882
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: a healthy Dak Prescott can be almost five thousand yards

883
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: only a few shots a single season passing yards record

884
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: over Tony robot Um MVP conversations a couple of seasons ago.

885
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: Now I understand what is said is saying, hell, it's

886
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: the sciences and my articles he struggled last year. I

887
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: also put in because something popped in my head. I'm

888
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: wondering if not only we know that he was pressing,

889
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: we know he was pressing right, he was playing hero ball.

890
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have been playing hero ball in twenty twenty two.

891
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: But I also wonder because keep in mind that the

892
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: fracture thumb was on his throwing hand. Yes, yep, I

893
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: wonder if that slightly altered his feel for the ball

894
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: in the release. And I say that to say I

895
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: could make the argument in my mind that with a

896
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: full offseason, he'll get his timy back, his field back,

897
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: his release back, or he will adapt recalibrate to what

898
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: I should say, But more than anything, for me, it's

899
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: it's the QB's coach variable, because when our beloved John

900
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: Kittna was in the building, Dak Prescott turned the corner

901
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: and he became that MVP caliber quarterback who was flinging

902
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: around when he also had the personnel to do so

903
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: at wide receiver and the offensive coorded was unleashing that

904
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: all things were working and were humming. I've seen that

905
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Again not saying nus Meier did a poor job,

906
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: but we can't ignore the obvious and the objective fact

907
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: is under Nusmire, Dak Prescott became an interception machine. Nusmire's

908
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: no longer in the building. So if the Cowboys can

909
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: bring in a quarterbacks coach who can fix that part

910
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott, then there's nothing that tells me that

911
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: he's not worth an extension that would not only guarantee

912
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: you don't have to revisit the quarterback market because you

913
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: got a twenty sixth overall pick, you don't have a

914
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: top pick. And if anybody who follows the draft and

915
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: Kyl runs the Draft show, so you know, when it

916
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: comes to draft capital and moving up, people say all

917
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: the time Oh, I won't you just move up to

918
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: the top five from twenty six. Nope, that's a whole mortgage.

919
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: That's like a two or three year mortgage to do it,

920
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: So that's not realistic, and you might lose Cooper Russian

921
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: free agency. You don't know just yet what you got

922
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: in Will Grier as a QB two. That's too much change,

923
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: it's too much even for the next two year period.

924
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: Go ahead, get a new QB coach in who can

925
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: help Dak fix the interception problem that just cropped up

926
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: over the back half of last season. Wasn't really here

927
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: before then. Coaches, don't go against your cap, and go

928
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: and doesn't go against your cap, and you'll net roughly

929
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars in cap savings over the next two

930
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: years as well. Do it. Do it. It's the popular opinion,

931
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: but it's just the right thing to do right now.

932
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: In terms of average salary per year, Dak Prescott is

933
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: ninth out of the quarterback position. Some of the guys

934
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: in front of him, yeah, right, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson,

935
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Derek Carr,

936
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: Derek car just got cut by the way, he's gonna

937
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: not be on his team next year. So that's the

938
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: thing is, those are the eight guys in front of

939
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott in terms of what he's getting paid per year.

940
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: This isn't total value total value. I think it's even

941
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: more so. I think he's like tenth or something like that.

942
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: Let me see, I'll give you total value in two seconds.

943
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: He's eighth in total value, so a little bit higher.

944
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: So if you take the link of this contract and

945
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: you're able to restructure it or extend him, you take

946
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: that average per year down, take it to like what

947
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: would be a good number, like thirty four or thirty three,

948
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: which would be less than what you're even gonna pay

949
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: for a cap hit this year he'd be paying. He'd

950
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: be paid less then Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford

951
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: on top of that list that I just gave you,

952
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: So he'd be middle of the road contract average per year.

953
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: Why would you not do that and take a guy

954
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: who's still correct in his twenties and take him and

955
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: extend it out for a couple more years, four or

956
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: five more years, and you extend him. I think it's

957
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: a great move, especially right now. Like I said, when

958
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: the value is low. He's not coming off of an

959
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: MVP caliber season. Recap wise, I'm in total agreeance with y'all.

960
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: But you just don't think the performance is there. Correct.

961
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: Here's the hedgings. So I think there's two reasons why

962
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: you extend somebody right we're talking about him. Either the

963
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: performance and you're like, hey, hey, Gail, we want you

964
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: here around here for a long time because you're just killing.

965
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: We can give you more money. Yeah, absolutely, and you're

966
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: gonna go here, or it's just like, okay, you're about

967
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: to kill our capt's, let's figure out a way to

968
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: save and get us some savings. It's definitely the second one. Absolutely,

969
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: absolutely the second one. Also, in that same conversation at

970
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, what did they say about the possibility

971
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: of drafting a quarterback. We're going to hit that on

972
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: the Draft show coming up on Tuesday by or Wednesday,

973
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: by the way, But they said, we are committed now

974
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: to drafting a quarterback now, and we probably should have

975
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: done one previous. It should have took the New England approach.

976
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: And it's funny you said that because we were talking

977
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: about that offline and not a few days later. Jerry

978
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: Jones says they regret not taking the approach of drafting

979
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: every single year because it gives you insurance and a

980
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: developmental guy that if it turns out your franchise guy

981
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: continues to trend upward and the rookie contract comes up

982
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: to expire on the on the developmental guy, you trade him,

983
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: you get some assets, you draft, you've got another one

984
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: in the pipeline. So it's the Belichick style of drafting.

985
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: See it's not even just Belichick now too, though. But

986
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: who were the last two quarterbacks that beat you this year?

987
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: Brock Purdy, He's a rookie drafted as the final pick

988
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: of the of the twenty twenty two draft. Brock Purdy

989
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: beat you with San Francisco. Who was the second of

990
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: the last quarterback that beat you? Washington Washington, Sam Howe

991
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. Both of those teams had two quarterbacks already.

992
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: Washington had both of their guys ed Carson Wentz, Taylor Heineke,

993
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: but it Sam how the beach here in the final

994
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: week the regular season, just in case. San Francisco Jimmy

995
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,959
Speaker 1: Garoppolo and Trey Lance. Yet it was Brock Purdy, who's

996
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: now sending them to an NFC championship game. So you

997
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: drafting these quarterbacks not a bad thing. It's insurance. Go

998
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: out and get one. If you're walking around here without insurance,

999
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: you know you're living life on the edge. Dallas Cowboys

1000
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: have been living life on the edge. Yeah, just call

1001
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: it what it is. Call it what it is, all right,

1002
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us here on Talking Cowboys.

1003
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: It's been a fun one today. We had a lot

1004
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: to talk about. We'll be back on Tuesday, ten am

1005
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: Central time, and we'll be on tuesdays from here on out.

1006
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: Hopefully the ice stage more ice storms. Yeah, let's keep

1007
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 1: all that out of here. Next we could be eighty

1008
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: two degrees. Yeah, it's bed sweating. Believe you be on

1009
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: the beach next week. Commando Kyle, Kyle, everybody make that.

1010
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna make another another video on Twitter for it

1011
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: for Chris be Isaiah Stanback, Patrick Nose walk a round,

1012
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys. We'll see

1013
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Speaker 1: you on Tuesday, ten am Central time. This has been

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