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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 4: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 6: Big job there could copy PreK beers fund out.

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Speaker 7: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved

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Speaker 7: bullshit artists.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 8: A time to be a mixed martial arts fanatic, and

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Speaker 8: you're not having to wait for Ray Longo today. Good

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Speaker 8: to have you with us, Episode three forty eight of

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Speaker 8: the Anakiploran Podcast. It is Sunday, May eighth, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 8: Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there, and

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Speaker 8: as James Vick put it, so eloquently on Instagram. He

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Speaker 8: said Happy Mother's Day, or what does he say? He

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Speaker 8: said to all the the fathers out there that don't hunt,

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Speaker 8: fish and shoot, Happy Mother's Day to you guys as well.

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Speaker 3: But a special happy Mother's Day to your lovely and

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Speaker 3: beautiful wife, Chrissy, who has to indoor, who wester indoor

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Speaker 3: all of his bullshit week after week?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 8: No, yeah, she wasn't actually too thrilled with me. I

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Speaker 8: literally walked in the door seventeen minutes ago. So if

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Speaker 8: I'm a little friend today, you.

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Speaker 3: Just got in now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I couldn't get a red eye out of Phoenix, you know, Wow,

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Speaker 8: that night was interminable as great as it was, and

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Speaker 8: there was no red eye out of Phoenix. So yeah,

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Speaker 8: to Miami and just took a while for the bag.

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Speaker 8: So just got home and cracking a mic. So I

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Speaker 8: apologize for keeping you boys waiting. Ken Flow, Nice to

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Speaker 8: see you were in Dallas for the PFL.

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Speaker 5: Is that right?

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Speaker 6: I was, sir, Yes, so not as long of a

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Speaker 6: flight and got back yesterday.

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Speaker 8: So Ken Flow's always deflecting, telling me like, hey, I

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Speaker 8: don't have it as bad as he's such a good

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Speaker 8: all right, So we have a lot to get into. Obviously,

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Speaker 8: we're gonna recap UFC two seventy four on the back

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Speaker 8: end of the show. We'll get into the PFL a

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Speaker 8: little bit. We do have predictions with Big Gun Brian

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Speaker 8: Petrie as well for the UFC Flight Night coming up

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Speaker 8: this weekend. But Longo's joining us off the top today

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Speaker 8: because I just couldn't wait. I wanted him to be

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Speaker 8: a part of this entire UFC two to seventy four discussion.

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Speaker 8: And let us begin with the main event and one

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Speaker 8: Charles Olivera, who just continues to distance himself from the

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Speaker 8: pack with this unmitigated assault on the lightweight division.

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we're gonna get pretty pretty superlative I think

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Speaker 8: today in terms of his lightweight legacy. But what were

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Speaker 8: your thoughts on Charles Olivera in what was a submission

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Speaker 8: over justin Gage over the weekend.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to rewind and go back to twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 6: if I could sure four out of his six fights

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Speaker 6: he loses, right, and all good guys, Max Holloway, Anthony Pennis,

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Speaker 6: for Carlo Lamis, Paul Felder, right, and you kind of think, like, well,

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Speaker 6: he starts to kind of get some you know, I

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Speaker 6: guess people are saying that maybe he's a little bit weak,

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Speaker 6: you know, weak hearted, that he gives up and blah

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Speaker 6: he's kind of between weight classes, and I don't think

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Speaker 6: I've ever seen a turnaround of this magnitude. It's unbelievable

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Speaker 6: what he's done, first of all, with his career, and

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Speaker 6: how he has put to bed that idea that he

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Speaker 6: is weak hearted or maybe, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, is it tough.

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Speaker 6: He's he was knocked down twice in the Gay Chee fight,

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Speaker 6: and then Olivera just kind of turns into a machine.

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Speaker 6: This isn't the first time we've seen this. He's been

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Speaker 6: His excitement level, his technical level, and the story of

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Speaker 6: let's put in the context of who he did it to.

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Speaker 6: Justin Gage, an absolute savage who if he entices you

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Speaker 6: There's very few that can do that with him. Olivera

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Speaker 6: did and he made it look easy. He knocked him down,

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Speaker 6: the ultimately gets that beautiful rear naked choke. The kid

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Speaker 6: you know, is towards that story. Of course, there's Habib, right,

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Speaker 6: fight win streak. What else can you say about?

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, Kenny an outstanding job on that. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's funny. I used to know a guy that used

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Speaker 3: to profess he finishes fights, but this this motherfucker Kenny.

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Speaker 3: I don't know man Kens got nothing on Charlie Ken.

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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you this guy really because he's not winning.

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Speaker 3: He's not just winning, he's finishing fights. And I was

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Speaker 3: But I talk to him and see like what what

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Speaker 3: just outstanding with whatever he does. And as far as

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Speaker 3: the Kabeb thing, he's the only way I could see

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Speaker 3: Before that, I don't think could be able come back

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Speaker 3: I think that would make for an intriguing scenario for

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we've talked about that before.

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Speaker 8: If you want a track to Kabib Normago MetOp go

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Speaker 8: beat Islam Maikashev, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's I think that's the only way.

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Speaker 6: And maybe Islam is the only guy who could do it,

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, I mean, Oliver's looking like an absolute killer.

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Speaker 6: And again Pourier knocked him down, Chandler knocked him down,

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Speaker 6: Gaze knocked him down, like uh. The fact that he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead. Now, I was gonna say, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go off Todd just before I forget too. I'm just

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Speaker 3: gonna bring something weird up. I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: people owe that Stephen K. Smith in apology, I really

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Speaker 3: do when he said that that guy didn't show up

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Speaker 3: Soroni didn't show up for that fight. The guy got

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Speaker 3: lamb based it not because they didn't think that. It's

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Speaker 3: just he's not an MMA guy. How dare you come

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Speaker 3: of times when I look at fights, I'll gramb somebody

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Speaker 3: love to hear it. I was not against that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't take You're in sports doing announcing thing years.

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Speaker 3: I don't care if it's football, baseball, basketball, You could

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Speaker 3: tell when the guy's sending it in or mailing it in,

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Speaker 3: whatever the thing is. And now Soroni comes out and

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Speaker 5: All the people, all the people.

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Speaker 3: Have pissed on that guy. I think they they own

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Speaker 3: an apology.

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Speaker 8: I really do, totally right, and I'm glad you brought

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Speaker 8: that up right because Donald Soroni, if you don't know,

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Speaker 8: literally corroborating in terms of his criticism for him wanting

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Speaker 8: of mine, Frank Meir chail Son and live to fight

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Speaker 8: another day where you see maybe them sort of give

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Speaker 8: oliver fought in a main event in twenty fifteen. That

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Speaker 8: all the time, but when Charles olivera filled out his

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Speaker 8: There were just times where I guess I saw Kenny

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Speaker 8: You're just in desperation trying to stay in that particular contest, right,

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Speaker 6: I believe I've probably mentioned this before in regard to

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Speaker 6: You know, a lot of times you see these guys

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Speaker 6: That takes time to get that unders, get that confidence.

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Speaker 6: And he took the right fight. So kudos to his

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Speaker 6: You know, in my fourth fight, uh, you know, I

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Speaker 5: I was fighting Sean Shirk for the for the UFC

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Speaker 6: So I never had the ability to develop and and

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Speaker 6: So for oll of Ea who had those little hiccups

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Speaker 5: So I think there's a lot to be said for that.

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Speaker 5: Why rush for the title?

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Speaker 6: Why rush for these big fights against these guys if

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Speaker 6: you don't need, you know, I think, and in a

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Speaker 6: lot of ways, Sean O'Malley, you know, you know, hate

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Speaker 3: Without of doubt. And the other thing, kudos to Ola

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Speaker 8: Uh you, I mean you certainly, if you're gonna knock

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Speaker 5: But it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a mind fuck at that stage of weight

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Speaker 8: So there are myriad options for Charles Olivera and we'll

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Speaker 5: What would you do promotionally? Can flow with Charles Olivera

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Speaker 6: Promotionally I think mahashev would be the fight, you know.

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Speaker 6: I think ironically, even though Olivera is getting stripped here,

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's getting a lot more bargaining power with

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Speaker 6: interesting though, I think Mahasha Mahasha is probably the point.

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Speaker 8: If it's a vacant UFC lightweight championship fight between Charles

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Speaker 8: Olivera and Connor mcgreg Does he not get the same point.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that he gets pay per viewpoints.

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Speaker 8: when all was said and done, right, Ray, what do

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Speaker 5: With Charlie Olives if I can even call him that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with Kenny. I think the fight to

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Speaker 3: You can. You could have Dustin Gachie and Chandler had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got such a kick when he's doing this

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Speaker 5: Be Here's what I don't know. Here's what you do.

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Speaker 6: You get Connor Chandler, get Connor and Chandler, you get

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Speaker 8: And then you'll let Paniel d'arjus, Thank you Kenny for that.

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Speaker 5: Perhaps that's the wrong word to cut down the lightweight.

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Speaker 8: So if you're thinking September October, I just don't know

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Speaker 8: He even came into our fighter meeting flow with such

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Speaker 8: And I don't know if something got lost in translation

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Speaker 3: Ring guys swinging for defenses like he always does. Man,

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's funny because you know, obviously Treb

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Speaker 3: He's just every time he's down there in a bad position,

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Speaker 3: That's if that's the way he wants to go out,

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Speaker 3: that's fine. But he has made I mean, Kenny, I

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Speaker 5: Ray I think that's spot on.

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Speaker 6: Do I think it's spot on my understanding, you know,

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Speaker 6: of figures, Hey, listen, I'm just gonna work my wrestling

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Speaker 6: And if I get down to the if I get

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Speaker 5: Might as well just do what I do.

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Speaker 6: So I don't think that's the right approach obviously, But yeah,

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, and maybe none of us are in the

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Speaker 8: fair to point that out. He's thirty three years of age,

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Speaker 5: There are a lot of big fights for him, right.

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Speaker 3: Oh of course, why wouldn't they who I love to

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Speaker 3: would miss with a left hook. That weave has not

434
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,719
Speaker 3: come back on that side. He stayed there get hit

435
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 3: with a right hand. There were a million things that listen,

436
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,639
Speaker 3: Like again, I don't want nobody criticizing me for my guys,

437
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 3: because you can't force the guys to do sometimes what

438
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 3: you want him to do. You know what I mean.

439
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 3: Gay Chee kind of is telling you he's going out

440
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,400
Speaker 3: on this, so he doesn't care. He's never made that thing,

441
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 3: like you know, I'm going to be a technical, smart fighter,

442
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 3: you know, so maybe you see glimpses, but at the

443
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: end of the day, you could draw him into a slugfest,

444
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 3: make him miss, and make him pay big time. And

445
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 3: I think that's what Charles did.

446
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems to me, you know, I think both

447
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 6: of you guys are correct in a way and that

448
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 6: I've seen improvements, you know, technical improvements. You could see

449
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 6: he's a little bit more patient at times. But then

450
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 6: on Ray's side, I see it it's almost like he

451
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 6: clicks back into old gay Chee and.

452
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 5: Then just start swinging.

453
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 6: And if you are a high level professional fighter, listen,

454
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 6: why on time you throw yourself off balance?

455
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 5: You rarely see it. At the highest levels of boxing.

456
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 6: You won't see a guy who swings and throws himself

457
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 6: completely off bounce where he almost falls on his face.

458
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 5: You just don't. You shouldn't see it.

459
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 6: It's just not a sign of a well trained professional,

460
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 6: and Getchee kind of goes back, like he said, like

461
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 6: Race said, into berzerker mode where it's like, man, not

462
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 6: only is it not only is it not good technique

463
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 6: where now you can get counted really badly, but it's

464
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 6: just it's not a good look. You're opening yourself up

465
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 6: and you're throwing the dice. And I think that's what

466
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 6: happened there.

467
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 5: Again, Oliver's too good.

468
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 6: You can't you can't do stuff like that against.

469
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if he would have just touched him

470
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 3: a little bit, taken a little bit off his power,

471
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 3: and then if he got him in trouble, then I

472
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,959
Speaker 3: think you could start throwing like that. When you have

473
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 3: you know, there's less of a chance of something coming

474
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 3: back right or he's against the cage and he can't

475
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 3: move anywhere, you know. But uh, yeah, I mean there's improvements.

476
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 3: But I look at the end of the day, you know,

477
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 3: you could drag him into a slug fist if that's

478
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: what you wanted to do. I don't think he could

479
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 3: stay out of that.

480
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I know your time is short, So I

481
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 8: do want to transition here to Michael Chandler, who turned

482
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 8: in what some are calling the most violent, vicious knockout

483
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 8: in UFC history. Tony Ferguson competed well in the first round,

484
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 8: and I think base is very happy to have seen

485
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 8: that and to see Tony be competitive. Seemed like Chandler

486
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 8: was dealing with some right orbital issue that could have

487
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 8: been a problem if the fight had been extended. But

488
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 8: uh man, that was a front kick from hell. I mean,

489
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 8: how about that. Some visuals are just crazy out there,

490
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 8: some of the photos. Right, What were your thoughts on

491
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 8: Chandler's huge highlight this weekend.

492
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 3: I mean, look, when you asked me who was gonna win?

493
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: What did I say this week? I just hold the

494
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 3: other guys are right, and he's not as all right, Yeah,

495
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: I think neurologically, I don't like the way his legs

496
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: look even before the fight, even though he had a

497
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 3: great first round. I think he did. He did better.

498
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 3: But you know, like if you watch him when he's running,

499
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 3: I bet if you go back and go to like

500
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 3: when he fought like Kevin Lee, I bet it looks

501
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: totally different. You get that little there's a little unsteadiness

502
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 3: and look that knockout. Here's what happens, right, He's been

503
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 3: knocked out how many times in all those fights, you know,

504
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 3: against guys they shouldn't even be in there with him,

505
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: and he always managed to come back and win. But

506
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 3: the shit adds up, and that knockout. Look, man, my

507
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: heart goes out to the guy. Like when he was

508
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: walking out of that octagon, he didn't know where the

509
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 3: fuck he was. He was confused, which you know obviously

510
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 3: can cuss. So you know, you don't know what's going on,

511
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 3: and that causes that little sense you could actually start

512
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: crying because you just don't know what's going on. But

513
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,479
Speaker 3: I didn't not like the way he looked, and I

514
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 3: just hope he's all right, you know. Of course, you

515
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 3: know the catskiing nine out of nine and a half

516
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: out of ten times is coming back, all right? What

517
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 3: the fuck does that mean? I was gonna say, your

518
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: fucking brain's not bleed, and thank god, because I got

519
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: to tell you if it's bleeding, you're in trouble anyway,

520
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 3: you know. So I don't know that was bad that

521
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: he was out for a while. Man, I mean, that's

522
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: that's got a scared of crap at you, you know

523
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: what I mean? And just look at all the previous

524
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: damage he's taken, even in the Gates You fight where

525
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: he didn't go down, but he was just getting beat up.

526
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: The human body is really just not meant to take

527
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: that type of punishment. So, like again, I said it

528
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 3: last week and I say it this week, I just

529
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 3: hope he's okay.

530
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 8: And somehow Charles Olivera couldn't finish Tony Ferguson ken flow.

531
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 8: But yeah, that was a scary moment for Tony obviously

532
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 8: a huge moment on the other side for Chandler.

533
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 5: What were your thoughts on all that noise?

534
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 6: Listen, I thought Tony Ferguson was looking like Tony who

535
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 6: we saw in his prime until his chin reminded him

536
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 6: that it's taken damage. And listen, even if he was

537
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 6: in his prime and not taking so much damage, how

538
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 6: many guys can take an upper cut style kick like

539
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 6: that to the jaw Like.

540
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 5: Chandler is a powerful.

541
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 6: Dude, and it was a scary knockout, but not see

542
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 6: someone go face first.

543
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: Man, It's but Kenny not known for his kicking right now,

544
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: which doesn't really bring anything because some of those guys

545
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 3: they look sloppy, but they're so fucking strong that that's

546
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: sight and that's what it.

547
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 5: Was, right.

548
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 3: Sometimes it wasn't the prettiest one, but he kicks he

549
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: kicks it in the hip instead of the leg, and

550
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: you fucking like those guys that Astroyd. Just it sucks.

551
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, he just flung that thing up and h.

552
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, as far as the positives, it's good

553
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 6: to see that Tony Ferguson was looking better.

554
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 5: Technically he was, he was moving better. I thought.

555
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 6: I thought he was using more weapons. He seemed way

556
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 6: more focused. Even in his interviews, he seemed like he

557
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 6: was into it, which was great.

558
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 5: So that was good to see. And Chandler, you know,

559
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 5: as crazy as Gatchee is, Chandler is just outright reckless.

560
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 5: He got a death wish. What he fights, it's like

561
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 5: he's out like a street fight. He wants to kill you.

562
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 6: And if he goes out in the shield, that's fine

563
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 6: with him too, but he will just de throy his

564
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 6: own body to get there.

565
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: It's no that fight with gatch I was watching the

566
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: highlights certain thing. I couldn't stop laughing when he was

567
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 3: waving them in like three times in a row.

568
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, he's falling off his he's got one leg.

569
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: Come Yeah, yeah, I thought that's him. He's the guy

570
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: had a Monty Python.

571
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 5: He is.

572
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 3: He's the son of a bitch. Yeah savage. And look

573
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: if you watch his like Instagram, the way he works that.

574
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: I could watch that guy work out every day, just

575
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 3: the inf and he puts in. And that's why he's

576
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 3: surviving this ship. A lot of people don't do that,

577
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But he's got the confidence

578
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: because of all of that work he's putting. Yes, he

579
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: is entertaining, he's I'll tell you what, what a big

580
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: plus that was for the UFC picking him up.

581
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 8: I think the guy, he's certainly making a lot of money,

582
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 8: but he's a promoter's dream and without nothing boring about it. Right,

583
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 8: So when and when he gets on a microphone and

584
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 8: a lot of this stuff is prescripted, he fucking kills it.

585
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 8: I mean, there's not whatsoever He's better than me on

586
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 8: a goddamn microphone. You could be sure, you know, Like

587
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 8: it's every time he tries to execute a promo on

588
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 8: the mic, you know, even just the way he says.

589
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 8: And if Hunter Campbell and Dana White have a momentary

590
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 8: lapse in judgment, here is scenario number two. For all

591
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 8: you find people supremely intelligent and uh you know, I

592
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 8: mean as a profighter. Kenn can attest to this because

593
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 8: Ken Flow has always sort of been a nice guy.

594
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 8: Right but Ken Flow still had his haters, plenty of

595
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 8: them when he was a pro fighter. And I'm just

596
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 8: telling you not that many. But Michael Chandler, you know,

597
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 8: love mer hated man, like I'm just telling you, like

598
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 8: he is good people.

599
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 5: This is a good things happening.

600
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: Curious.

601
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 5: I love him.

602
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 3: I've known him for a while and the guy's just

603
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 3: his energy is infectious me. He's so positive. Walks to walk,

604
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: talks to talk. Just a fucking great guy.

605
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 5: All Right, I know you gotta go. I love you.

606
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: Sorry I was leaving.

607
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: No, no, no good, Yeah, have more time. Let's go.

608
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 3: What do we Let's talk about the co main event? Yeah?

609
00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 5: All right?

610
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 3: Two?

611
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 5: I want to hear this.

612
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 8: Yes, please for the viewership and the listenership. UFC Women's

613
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 8: Strawway Championship. Carla Esparza by split decision.

614
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 5: What do you have? Right?

615
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: No, No, it's not that I have no Look look

616
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: there's a there's a weird thing, you know, like look again,

617
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: if that was a drill for footwork. I I'm it's

618
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: an A plus. I mean, the girl really knew she

619
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: the movement is beautiful, you know, so if you like,

620
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: even with al Joe, that kind of like the way

621
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: I had him just keep chasing them, walk them down.

622
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: He's got to go angle angle fake you offset you,

623
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: but eventually you do have to engage, right, you know, Kenny.

624
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: It's like you're sparring a guy and he's doing tornado

625
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: kicks ten feet away from you. Who cares? You still

626
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: have to encroach. That's when the problem is right. You

627
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: could dance around all you want. I think the beauty

628
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: of this fight is call a responsa because she offset

629
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: that just by not doing anything, and it kind of

630
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: highlighted how how bad everything was, you know what I mean, Like, Okay,

631
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: they thought she was gonna over commit, I think, and

632
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: keep shooting and get out of plate, and when that

633
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: didn't happen, she kept with the same game plan instead

634
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: of switching up and starting to go after her a

635
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: little bit. I think, I don't know, we do not

636
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: really talk to him, but I think that was the guy,

637
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: Kenny go.

638
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 6: Ray, Did I ever tell you that I was undefeated

639
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 6: as a professional shadow boxer?

640
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 5: I was three hundred oh and one.

641
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 6: I had one draw, but no, it seemed like that's

642
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 6: what we were kind of watching.

643
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 5: It was like a.

644
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 6: Simulated dance, choreographed fighting, almost without the actual fighting.

645
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 5: And I was waiting up for one of them to

646
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: go forward.

647
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 6: And you know, when Rose was stopping those takedowns, I thought, Okay,

648
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 6: all right, now she's getting her confidence. She knows she

649
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 6: can't be taken down. Now she's gonna come forward and

650
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 6: do this thing. And she stopped, and I, you know,

651
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 6: I think Rose only has herself to blame. And maybe

652
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 6: that's a little harsh, but I think that's the truth.

653
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 6: You know, I got really nervous when Rose was telling

654
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 6: herself that she.

655
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 5: Was the best.

656
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 6: As she was walking out, I just had a weird feeling.

657
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 6: I said, she's not confident, you know, yeah, I don't know.

658
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 6: It felt like it was something that someone told her

659
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 6: to kind of go in and you know, believe in herself.

660
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 6: It's like, you're damn like, you're good, You're you're walking great,

661
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 6: you have been super technical.

662
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 5: Why don't you believe in it?

663
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 6: I mean, are you telling me like throughout those five rounds,

664
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 6: at no point does she think like all right, I

665
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 6: should just go over since she is literally ninety percent

666
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 6: better on the feet.

667
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 5: Than Carla as spars. Yes, and and and she was

668
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 5: not getting taken down.

669
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 6: She was doing a beautiful job of you know, hipping

670
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 6: right back to her feet and all that stuff. And

671
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 6: she was still hesitant, and both women were kind of

672
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 6: just trying to stick to that game plan. And and

673
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 6: and I think Rose is going to feel worse and

674
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 6: worse about this, unfortunately.

675
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 5: And I've been in that same boat.

676
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 6: Okay, uh, Gray Maynard is one of those fights that

677
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 6: came to my where I just shit the bed, but

678
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 6: where you know, the next couple you're like, why the

679
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 6: hell didn't I just go for What was I doing? Overthinking?

680
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 6: Over analyzing? So I think, you know, I don't know

681
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 6: that was unfortunate because Rose is such a fantastic champion,

682
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 6: it's such a great martial artist.

683
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 5: To me, her head got the better of her. Again.

684
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think she shipped the bed that.

685
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't think. I think she thought and you know,

686
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: I think she thought she was doing the right thing.

687
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: I think that's what that that's the problem where they

688
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: have to say.

689
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 6: Already had something to blame for that rate because it

690
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 6: seemed like they were on board with it.

691
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: Well that's the problem. Then the somebody had to be saying, look, man,

692
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: I don't know how these fucking rounds are going, you

693
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like nothing's happening. It's just you.

694
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 5: Can't seem like it was never communicated, right, yeah.

695
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: Right, that was There was no urgency, no urgency at all.

696
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: It was that. But they know the fight. Maybe there's

697
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: a reason why there wasn't that. That's why I say,

698
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: you taught the comment on that. But yeah, it had

699
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: to be a sense of urgency. And let me just

700
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: tell you another thing. As far as Peterson stopping him

701
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: and telling them to fight. I texted Kenny, I mean

702
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: texta John Dirt thing like, if the Corners can't get

703
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: him to fight, why could Peterson get him to fight?

704
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Peterson would have said that's

705
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: you would have got back to the corner. They said, Look,

706
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: that means you're doing the right thing because Peterson's now

707
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: telling you to fight, you know what I mean. So

708
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: it's it's I just think it's an unfortunate like pull

709
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: whatever world's colliding, whatever. That thing is just just a mess.

710
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: It just was a mess, and you know, you know,

711
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: you start out with the footwork. Next thing you know,

712
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: there's thirty seconds left, I mean, time starts flying. Then

713
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: your two rounds going into it, and then it's just

714
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: it was crazy. I don't know, but there's this should

715
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: have been really a little more urgency and say, look,

716
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: I'm just not sure you're gonna have to go for it,

717
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: you know, like sometimes I mean I go out on

718
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: your shield, you know, I mean, I don't know.

719
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 6: It seemed to me, John that the corner was kind

720
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 6: of dancing around the issue and not outright telling her

721
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 6: what to do.

722
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 5: And I think it it might have something to do with, hey,

723
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 5: you know, don't be negative in the corner. Row she's

724
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 5: not doing well. We gotta we gotta keep her positive.

725
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 6: We got to build her up where it's like at

726
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 6: that point, you know what I mean, like you can't

727
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 6: do that, like and that's the only problem of like

728
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 6: having a strong relationship in that corner. I'm not saying

729
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 6: this is Pat Berry's fault or anything like that, because

730
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 6: you look at there's a lot of you know, a

731
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 6: lot of coaches who have sons that are in there

732
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 6: that are fighting, and you know, they they either have

733
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 6: to say what they need to say or not. But

734
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 6: I think it seemed like they were dancing or skirting

735
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 6: around the issue as opposed to being like, hey, I

736
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 6: don't know who the hell is winning this fight. We

737
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 6: got to go and get this. You could be down,

738
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 6: like take that down, Pomis, you're wrestling, Let's go.

739
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's home. I think Kenny right, the fact

740
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: of walking in with the the affirmations like that, that

741
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: was never my thing. You know what I mean, if

742
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: you want to do it, say it internally, you know,

743
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: believe it. Almost like olivera, I'm the fucking champ, period.

744
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: I don't give a show what you do. But I

745
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: think because she was saying that highlights something's going on.

746
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: And it was almost the case of the Emperor's wearing clothes, right,

747
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: the guy's walking around buck naked. Nobody wants to tell

748
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: them anything. You look great, many nicety their pants guys,

749
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: bulls are hanging in the window. Yeah, you see what

750
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like there was a hesitancy because like I think,

751
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: like Kenny says, whatever is going on there, you got

752
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: to keep a positive right, so they'll figure it out

753
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 3: and uh whatever. But look she knows how to control

754
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: the distance and the range. I really do think her

755
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: footwork is beautiful. So I want to end on a

756
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 3: positive note, you know. But hopefully they go back and

757
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 3: make the adjustments and you know, we see it, you know.

758
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: So that's that's it on that.

759
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 8: I have not shared a single one of my thoughts

760
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 8: at this point on that fight. I just let so

761
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 8: I think you did on the air.

762
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: I think you did on the air.

763
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 8: Collectively, Well, no, Pat Barry is a really good friend

764
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 8: of mine, and I'm out on the other.

765
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 5: Side of no, I'm not.

766
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 8: They're great people going in there knowing Rose owned it

767
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 8: obviously on social media. I shared an airport shuttle with

768
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 8: Greg Nelson this morning in Phoenix and they watched the

769
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 8: fight back last night. And that came shortly after Rose

770
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 8: had taken to the postfight press conference and said, you know,

771
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 8: I don't get credit for defense.

772
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 5: I said, no, you don't. You don't.

773
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 8: You absolutely don't get credit for defense, you know. And

774
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 8: that's the way it is in many professional sports, you know.

775
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: I mean, the problem problem with defense is somebody has

776
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: to be throwing punches or kicks at you. Yeah, you

777
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: know what I mean. There was nothing that happened, you know,

778
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: so that's the problem.

779
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, and listen, I don't think I really understood

780
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 6: the rules that well when I was fighting, like how you.

781
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 5: Actually score a fight?

782
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 6: And I don't think a lot of these fights, the

783
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 6: fighters are really focused on, you know, training and listening

784
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 6: to their coaches and doing their workouts and stuff. I

785
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 6: don't know how many fighters are actually looking at the

786
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 6: rule book and someone or someone explaining to them what

787
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 6: it actually means.

788
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 5: Like who's sitting down with Judd, you know what I mean?

789
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 5: And I don't know. It seemed when she said that,

790
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, she doesn't know the rules, Like

791
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 5: this is.

792
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 8: Such an a love team and I don't understand. You

793
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 8: have Trevor Whitman sort of taking second fiddle to Pat Barry.

794
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 8: And then finally before round five, Trevor says, you know,

795
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 8: I know you've been trying to be disciplined, but it's

796
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 8: time to throw that out and have fun and apply pressure.

797
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 8: And I'm not saying you got to go full throttle

798
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 8: Ray Longo or General Safe saout on her at that

799
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 8: point in time, but you know, I just felt like

800
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 8: there was so much delusion going on, and you know,

801
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 8: open scoring is not the answer. Okay, I think it

802
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 8: just is not fair to the athletes, even though I

803
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 8: do think it has some merit. But obviously it would

804
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 8: be interesting if nama Unis had the benefit of open

805
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 8: scoring in this situation. It looks up and you know,

806
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 8: she's down four nil on one of the judges' scorecards.

807
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 8: And when Joe Rogan said on the broadcast like it's

808
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 8: out out of the realm of possibility that Carl has

809
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 8: won the first four rounds, I'm sitting there thinking, like, yeah,

810
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 8: I give nama units the first round literally because of

811
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 8: one strike that caused redness on Aspars's forehead, you know,

812
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 8: but that's literally how I score the round.

813
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: And John. The other thing is this thing what they

814
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: discourage ten ten rounds. That's fucking bullshit. That's a ten

815
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: ten round. I mean, you have to be able to

816
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: distinguish what a ten nine to ten ten is. Nothing happened,

817
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 3: that's a ten ten. Who gives a shit if people

818
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: like it and they don't like it, but how do

819
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: you how do you give it to one?

820
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 8: Why them gave it a ten ten though, because they

821
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 8: were exactly they're doing what they're told.

822
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: You know, that's wrong.

823
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 8: I don't want to bring the whole show scoring language

824
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 8: and how imperfect it is, how our scoring system doesn't

825
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 8: fit the sport. There are so many different issues, but

826
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, this was a historically

827
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 8: bad championship, and I do believe Carla aspar Aza did

828
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 8: enough to win the fight. You know, I do believe

829
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 8: that that fourth round was the clearest round of the fight.

830
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 8: The craziest thing is I see some people on social

831
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 8: media say Rose with that late takedown in the fifth round, right.

832
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 5: Don't even debate it this kid. Yeah, anyways, Ray, we

833
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 5: love you.

834
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 8: I know you wanted to congratulate Daniel quinta Hall of

835
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 8: Fame before you get out of here.

836
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: Listen, first off, what a great ambassadors sport. I mean,

837
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: not that I know him, but I've never had a

838
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 3: bad interaction with this guy. I think he's a genuinely

839
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: nice guy. Just his work and he still teaches, you know,

840
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: he's still got the wrestling program with the kids. Uh,

841
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 3: he's a he's a great announcer. Not that I agree

842
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: with some of his stuff, but he's entertaining and you

843
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: could just see how heart felt he was even in

844
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: receiving at award and you know, when you compare him

845
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: to like a John Jones. John Jones at the end

846
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: of the day, could never have what DC has, you know,

847
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: like just the uh, just the work ethic. You know,

848
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 3: he's not a cheetah uh. He just has so many

849
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: great things to offer this sport. He's done great for

850
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: everybody involved. He's encouraging, and he's funny. And I just

851
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: think what a well deserved Hall of Fame announcement that was.

852
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I can't think of a better,

853
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: more well deserving person, and just a great guy.

854
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 5: You know, like you getting cool that he and Kabi

855
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 5: Remongo medav will go in together. I feel like beautiful.

856
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 8: His reaction was so organically great because he kind of

857
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 8: internally flow. I know you're smirking, Like felt like, dude,

858
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 8: my guy who Beab's getting in before me. He's headlined

859
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 8: in the class of twenty twenty two. I'll probably get

860
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 8: in next year. But then he was obviously floored. Ray

861
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 8: Longo every week on the Anicipfloring podcast. You can find

862
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 8: him on social media at Ray Longo MMA. I love

863
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 8: your brother. I'm sorry I was late today. We will

864
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 8: talk to you next Sunday. If not sooner unless you

865
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 8: have a party shot.

866
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: That's it. Happy Mother's Day again, and Kenny, Happy Mother's

867
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: Day to your wife too, Thank you so much. It's

868
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: a it's a hard joke stuff.

869
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 5: It is already played today.

870
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: It's I wouldn't I wouldn't know about it, but I

871
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: heard it was anyway, taking these guys on that, Yeah,

872
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: there is.

873
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 8: I was actually telling al Jamain Sterling in Phoenix that

874
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 8: Ray Longo had never changed to diaper because I was

875
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 8: talking to Al Joe about eventually having kids. And I'm like,

876
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 8: hang on, bro, like it's two different type. So father's

877
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 8: out there, and I guess if you're James Vicker's three

878
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 8: happy Mother's Days, all the fathers that don't hunt, fish

879
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 8: and shoot? All right, I want to get back to

880
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 8: uh to Carla Esparza and Rosnama units. Can I do that?

881
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: Is that?

882
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 5: Okay? Yes? I mean what the fuck?

883
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: Bro?

884
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: Like?

885
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 5: What in what is going on?

886
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 8: Like I'm sitting there calling this fight and I'm I'm

887
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 8: having flashbacks and nightmares in my head of Gabriel Gonzaga

888
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 8: and Constantini Roken. Go watch that heavyweight fight on fight Pass.

889
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 8: You know, the worst heavyweight fight I have ever seen

890
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 8: even worse than Derek Lewis and Francis and Ganu. But Kenny,

891
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 8: this fight just didn't have a whole lot and there

892
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 8: weren't any adjustments being made by Noama Unis. And you know,

893
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 8: it wasn't until she watched it back where she got

894
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 8: clarity as to how just how inactive she was. And

895
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 8: here's just one thing that I've been waiting to say

896
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 8: to you, just like, believe in your skills. You stuff

897
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 8: two of eleven takedowns, Let her wrestle like you'll probably

898
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 8: be able to get back up, maybe catch her. And

899
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 8: so something on the feet create some clint situations like

900
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 8: it's just crazy to see a world championship change hands

901
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 8: in a fight like that. And I will say, in

902
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 8: defense of Asparsa, you know sometimes her fights do play

903
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 8: out like this, you know, but I don't know, man,

904
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 8: Like at the end of those twenty five minutes, I

905
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 8: felt like the justified winner was as spars I really did,

906
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 8: you know, not that I had a scorecard that you know,

907
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 8: was any great thing, but I felt like, you know,

908
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 8: in that situation, I felt like, as far as I

909
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 8: kind of deserve to.

910
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 6: Win, Yeah, it was a tough one, man, shouts to

911
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 6: Laura Gilbert, by the way, who compared it to Damian

912
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 6: Maya against Anderson Silva way back in the day when

913
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 6: they fought for one hundred and eight five pound bellt Yeah,

914
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 6: it kind of reminded me of that.

915
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 5: Where both guys were so hesitant.

916
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 6: Anderson Silva didn't want to move forward because he didn't

917
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 6: want to get taken down by Maya. Maya didn't want

918
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 6: to engage on the feet because he didn't want to

919
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 6: get outstruck by Anderson Silva.

920
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 5: So there was this huge like gap between the fighters, and.

921
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 6: It felt like the fight was going on and on

922
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 6: and on. I was getting anxious watch that fight. Why

923
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 6: because I was envisioning myself if I was calling that

924
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 6: fight John. That's one of those things where I again,

925
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 6: and that's one of my weaknesses I think as a

926
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 6: guy who calls fights, is when there's not a whole

927
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 6: lot of activity, Like I like calling action. I like

928
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 6: breaking that down, and if that's not happening, I'm almost

929
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 6: like mute. I don't even know like how to fill

930
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 6: gaps and stuff. Like I was so anxious for you

931
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 6: guys call it. You guys did a tremendous job by

932
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 6: the way because it's little to no pauses when you

933
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 6: guys are calling fights, it's awesome.

934
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 5: Obviously DC loves it talking Rogan does.

935
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 6: But right, but you know, you guys did a fantastic

936
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 6: job during that fight given the circumstances. I I don't

937
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 6: know who would have done a better job, So kudos

938
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 6: to you guys. But yeah, I think both guys, both

939
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 6: women were were fighting to not lose, right. And I

940
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 6: know that cliche is thrown around a lot, but that

941
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 6: that was the case. Both had so much respect and

942
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 6: you know, they had history together and that was a

943
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 6: tough one to watch, a tough one to call. Yeah,

944
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 6: and both women really couldn't couldn't complain about the result

945
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 6: after that war.

946
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 8: As I said on the broadcast, you know, I certainly

947
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 8: had a lot of real estate for my promos. You know,

948
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 8: when you're calling a fight like Randy Brown and Chaos

949
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 8: Williams and they're saying, hey, work this promo, and I'm like, man,

950
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 8: this ain't the fight, but I'll try. I read it

951
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 8: extra quickly. But I love thug Rose nama Unis. I

952
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 8: consider her a friend. I've FaceTime with her many times.

953
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 8: She and Pat Barry like after these wins, and she

954
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 8: has provided our broadcast booth, me, Daniel and Joe some

955
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 8: of the most memorable moments that we have ever had,

956
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 8: you know. So if anyone I think gets a pass

957
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 8: for a stinker, of course it's Rose. I just remain

958
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 8: absolutely stunned that there was no messaging from the NOMA

959
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 8: Unis corner at any time that said, hey, like, there's

960
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 8: a great chance we're about to lose our fucking world

961
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 8: championship if we don't put the pedal to the medal,

962
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 8: And at no point did that happen, you know, And

963
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 8: then the notion that with one singular right hand and

964
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 8: at the end of round four she took that round

965
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 8: after the two takedowns from Carla.

966
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 5: I don't know.

967
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 8: I mean, Carla had twenty one seconds of ground control time,

968
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 8: didn't do anything with the takedowns. I mean, I don't

969
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 8: fucking know. Here's a tweet from Jessica ONROJ directed at

970
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 8: Carla Esparza. I take advantage that you didn't block me

971
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 8: on Twitter. I want to say that your fight yesterday

972
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 8: was the worst in straweight history. Champion of boredom. I

973
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 8: can't wait to rip your head off. Congratulations on the

974
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 8: boredom belt. But fans of this sport want to see

975
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 8: a massacre this I'll do ah.

976
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 5: And she will and she will.

977
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 8: And in her rematch with Rose nama Unis, I thought

978
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 8: Androge won that foot. And obviously that's the fight in

979
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 8: which rosemami Unis has absorbed more damage than in any

980
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 8: fight in her entire career. Androje came on super strong there.

981
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 8: I mean, the straweight division is wide open. I think

982
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 8: the good news is is that Carla Esparza, who has

983
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 8: the same manager, Brian Butler, rosemama Unis. I think Carla,

984
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 8: even though she's getting married next Saturday, can be push

985
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 8: to turn around here in three or four months, you know,

986
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 8: and maybe we do see someone like Andraje who's off

987
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 8: a big win. Certainly we can wait a few weeks

988
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 8: and see what happens with Jongwae Lee and Yo Wanna

989
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 8: youm j check in their rematch, you know, because again,

990
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 8: you know, Joanna's been out two years, but a lot

991
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 8: of people thought.

992
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 5: She beat Jong Way Lee.

993
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 6: You know, so right.

994
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 5: And I also think too in terms of the legacy.

995
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 8: You know, rosdama Unis did start to talk about her

996
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 8: strawweight legacy, and I find it interesting that I believe

997
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 8: Max Holloway is the greatest featherweight in UFC history, yet

998
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 8: Alexander Bolkovski has two head to head wins against him.

999
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 8: I believe Yo Wanna Am Jcheck is the greatest straweight

1000
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 8: in UFC history, but Rosdama Units has two head to

1001
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 8: head wins against her. So I don't know, man, I

1002
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 8: don't know, but I think the straweight division will move on.

1003
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 8: I think it will do so expeditiously. But did you

1004
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 8: hear DC trolling us, like talking about a trilogy between

1005
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 8: these two?

1006
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 5: Like now.

1007
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 8: Now, I'm sorry, I'm going along here, but now that

1008
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 8: I have some time removed part of me, as crazy

1009
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 8: as this sad does want to see what Rose would

1010
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 8: do with the opportunity because she has been so self critical.

1011
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 8: Now after the fact that, you know, I gotta think

1012
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 8: she goes out there and tries to tear her head off,

1013
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 8: I mean over respect doesn't even begin to describe it.

1014
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 5: Right, No, No, she would need to.

1015
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 6: And again it's not like she she doesn't have the skills.

1016
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 6: I think that's always been the knock on Rose is

1017
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 6: you know, she's blessed with so much talent and even

1018
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 6: physical ability. I mean, she's tall, lanky for the division,

1019
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 6: she moves really well. I think she kicked it up

1020
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 6: a notch strength wise, in my opinion based on what

1021
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 6: I saw in this fight here against Carla, and I

1022
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 6: saw someone who was extremely hesitant, fearful of going out

1023
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 6: and performing her amazing martial arts skills. So yeah, that's

1024
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 6: a tough one, you know. But at the end of

1025
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 6: the day, for me, and it's always been the case,

1026
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 6: no matter what mistakes or what issues have had outside

1027
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 6: of the cage, the only person you can blame when

1028
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 6: you're fighting is yourself, Okay, And I think Rose, after

1029
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 6: watching that fight, was able to kind of take herself

1030
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 6: out of it, you know, take the emotions out of it,

1031
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 6: and look at that with you know, an educated.

1032
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 5: Eye or in a less biased eye and say, geez,

1033
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 5: what the heck was I doing? Fortunate.

1034
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're so rooted, excuse me, in a game plan

1035
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 8: that they just weren't willing to deviate from it. And

1036
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 8: I think sometimes just athletically, what if you say, all right,

1037
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 8: in this first round, you know, I'm not going to

1038
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 8: be so rooted in the game plan. I'm just gonna

1039
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 8: sort of see what happens if I get taken down

1040
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 8: and controlled on the ground, then maybe I'll adjust from there,

1041
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 8: But I don't know. It seemed like they were expected

1042
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 8: that if they got taken down, it was going to

1043
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 8: be you know, danger factor one hundred and I just

1044
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 8: didn't necessarily see that fight that way. But we congratulate

1045
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 8: the new now two time UFC Strawway champion, Carla Esparza,

1046
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 8: and you know she had to wait a year to

1047
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 8: get the championship opportunity. She's a really good person and

1048
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 8: and I'm happy for Carla Asparza. So you know, it's

1049
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 8: interesting in terms of Tony Ferguson's strength of skins, edule

1050
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 8: kenflow right, because he's fought nothing but killers, and even

1051
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 8: against guys like Charles Olivereron Banil Daryush recently, he did

1052
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 8: not get finished. So some people are calling for Tony

1053
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 8: to retire. Certainly Rey Longo would sit here and champion

1054
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 8: that cause I'm not in the business of retiring fighters.

1055
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 8: I guess I would just say there are winnable fights.

1056
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 8: In my humble opinion, at one hundred and fifty five

1057
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 8: pounds for Tony Ferguson, there are big fights as well.

1058
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 8: I saw somebody today suggest that a fight between him

1059
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 8: and Patty Pimblet, which at least in terms of skill level.

1060
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 8: You know, you don't seem to like that very much.

1061
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 8: But what do you think about Tony's future? And do

1062
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 8: you think with twelve straight wins now followed by four

1063
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 8: straight losses that they are going to get rid of Tony?

1064
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1065
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 6: The other thing that he has going against him Tony

1066
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 6: is that he has been quite critical of the UFC

1067
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 6: as well, which.

1068
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 5: Can be tricky, and he's had some really tough fights,

1069
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 5: There's no question about that. But I did see a

1070
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 5: different Tony firks in this time out, and I think

1071
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 5: that I don't know many guys in that lightweight division

1072
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 5: who could have taken that shot to the job.

1073
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 6: How many I don't know, like you and maybe three

1074
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 6: or four of us, I don't know many, man, I

1075
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 6: don't know if I would have.

1076
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 5: I mean, that was a brutal shot and you never

1077
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 5: saw it coming, and it came out of nowhere.

1078
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 6: In fact, I literally blinked and saw Tony Ferguson start

1079
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 6: tipping over like like a like a tree, and I

1080
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 6: was like, what the hell happened?

1081
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 5: And he's out cold and I'm like, oh my gosh,

1082
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 5: I missed it. Yeah, so it was. It was, it

1083
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 5: came out of nowhere.

1084
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 6: It's and it's something that I think Chandler doesn't really throw,

1085
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 6: and man, it was a brutal shot. So I think

1086
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 6: I think Tony is not going to retire. I think

1087
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 6: that if you are the UFC, you know what kind

1088
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 6: of fighter Tony Ferguson is, and at the end of

1089
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 6: the day, you can rely on him to fight hard,

1090
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 6: to move forward and put on exciting fights. To me,

1091
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 6: he looked like he was in great shape. He hurt

1092
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 6: Chandler a few times in that fight. Ye could have

1093
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 6: could have easily had won that fight. And I don't

1094
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 6: know a guy who has given his body his mind

1095
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 6: to the sport like he has, I think deserves more chances.

1096
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 6: I certainly don't want to see him hurt anymore, right.

1097
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 6: I hope that he has secured a good, solid future

1098
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 6: for him and his family. That's the most important thing

1099
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 6: at this point as he gets near the end of

1100
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 6: his career. But I mean, if I'm the promotion, I'm

1101
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 6: giving him more chances at this at this stage, I

1102
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 6: don't want to see him get knocked out again, though,

1103
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 6: I don't want to se him get knocked out cold

1104
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 6: again that that would probably like a.

1105
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 5: No for me.

1106
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 8: After that, I would like to see him get an

1107
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 8: opportunity to either go out on a high note or

1108
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 8: just maybe fight a guy who is more on the

1109
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 8: level that I perceive him to be at at this

1110
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 8: stage of his career, even though he just had moments

1111
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 8: early on against an elite lightweight. But this is not

1112
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 8: the Tony Ferguson that we saw in his prime that

1113
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 8: produced an historically great winning streak. The front kick came

1114
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 8: at seventeen seconds of round two, and you know, sometimes

1115
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 8: you do miss it, right, especially like DC missed this

1116
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 8: on the broadcast. You know I missed it when Chris

1117
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 8: Barnett knock out John Belante. You go to check your

1118
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 8: notes for a minute, you can miss a strike like this,

1119
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 8: especially when it happens early round. So we congratulate Michael Chandler.

1120
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 8: I do think a main event at one hundred and

1121
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 8: seventy pounds between him and Connor McGregor just makes a

1122
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 8: shit ton of sense at this point in time, and

1123
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 8: I think that is probably the fight that.

1124
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 5: We're going to see, But you never know, that would

1125
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 5: be interesting. I think it has to.

1126
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 8: It has everything to do with Connor McGregor's appetite for

1127
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 8: that fight and what Connor wants to do. I do

1128
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 8: believe if Charles Olivera calls the shots that it could

1129
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 8: very well be a title defense against Connor McGregor. It

1130
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 8: just might have to be closer to the end of

1131
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 8: the year, right, we shall see, all right now, joining

1132
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 8: us as we continue our UFC two seventy four breakdrown

1133
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 8: is the great Big Gun. Brian Petrie, he of the MMA,

1134
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 8: takes podcast of or She's going to join us for

1135
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 8: the main event challenges. We make some selections for UFC

1136
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 8: Fight Night, Wellhovic versus Rockets, but we need yeah.

1137
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 5: On UFC two seventy four.

1138
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: What's up?

1139
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 8: Hey, Sorry about Butcher in the clock a little bit today,

1140
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 8: but I was looking like in here out of Miami,

1141
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 8: all right, So I want to start with you if

1142
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 8: I could.

1143
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 5: On the co main event.

1144
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 8: I know you were critical of Pat Barry obviously, Kelo

1145
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 8: thinks most of the blame should sit with Rose Nami Unis,

1146
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 8: and largely I agree. I feel like mentally maybe she

1147
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 8: didn't quite understand what was transpiring, so much so that

1148
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 8: when she cracked a mic. At the post by press conference,

1149
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 8: she was defensive of her performance. Then she watched it

1150
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 8: back with super self critical. Talk to me about what

1151
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 8: you saw and what you liked or didn't like.

1152
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 4: I mean, there's not much to like it.

1153
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 5: It was so weird.

1154
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 4: There's no way a million years I thought that fight

1155
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 4: was going to happen, you know, I thought Carlo was

1156
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: going to have a better time closing the distance. She

1157
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 4: kind of looked lost in that aspect. And then Rose

1158
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 4: has all the tools to be aggressive, like after that

1159
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 4: first initial takedown where she got I'm the Rose popery

1160
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 4: back up, that should go Rose all the confidence in

1161
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 4: the world, like, oh okay, even if we create a

1162
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 4: scraam while I'm good here because I'm stronger and I'm bigger,

1163
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 4: and I had the striking, and it was just weird

1164
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 4: that you kind of froze. And my problem with bat

1165
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 4: Berry I love Pat Berry. Listen. I watched the Techno

1166
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 4: Viking dancing video of Pat Berry in the barber shop

1167
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 4: three thousand times. But I just felt like there was

1168
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 4: a reason a couple of years ago they they kind

1169
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: of got him out of her corner. They said, Pat,

1170
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 4: we're gonna we're gonna sit you out this one. And

1171
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 4: it didn't go over well. You know, sometimes he gets

1172
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 4: a little to hyped up. He's passionate. That's his lady

1173
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 4: in there.

1174
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: I get it.

1175
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 4: I just felt like he was like, hey, listen, they're

1176
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 4: doing that's what we want. That's what we want. And

1177
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 4: then Whitman was like, hey, maybe go forward a little bit,

1178
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 4: and I just felt like it was like almost like

1179
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 4: they were talking to her baby gloves, like you know,

1180
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 4: And obviously there's there's a fine line between Trevor Whitman

1181
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: and safe. Soy was screaming at people.

1182
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: Right.

1183
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 4: I'm not a guy that when I trained, I did

1184
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 4: not like getting diro sergeant, and that's how I responded.

1185
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 4: But when you're in a title fight, co main event,

1186
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 4: you kind of gotta get pushed a little bit. And

1187
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 4: I just I know, Rose new she had to do

1188
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 4: a little bit more and Sheilanda take down that fifth

1189
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 4: round and I was obviously clear round for her, but

1190
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 4: it was it was puzzling, man. I couldn't believe it.

1191
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there stunned. I'm usually pretty positive about fight,

1192
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 4: you know, I'm on the few that didn't really knock

1193
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 4: on Ata Signo Romero because I'm a huge dizzy guy.

1194
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not going to go to Twitter and

1195
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 4: complain about that, but this was This is a tough

1196
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 4: one to sell.

1197
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: This was.

1198
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 5: This wasn't great. Yeah, wow, all right.

1199
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 8: So there are a few other performances at UFC two

1200
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 8: seventy four that I would like to highlight if I could.

1201
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 8: I would like to start with Brandon Royball, who submits

1202
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 8: Matt Schnell, and Schnell was overly aggressive. I think there

1203
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 8: were a lot of emotions for him after losing his mother.

1204
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 8: But all credit to Brandon Royball, who you know, stamps

1205
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 8: himself the most exciting flyweight in the world but also

1206
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 8: one of the best fly weights in the world. And

1207
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 8: Brian will start with you on this. I think he's

1208
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 8: both of those things.

1209
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 3: You know.

1210
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 8: I think on any given Saturday night, he can beat

1211
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 8: any flyweight in the world. And you know, in terms

1212
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 8: of the excitement level now from the fan base to

1213
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 8: see him performance just off the charts. What'd you think

1214
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 8: of raw dog Brandon Royball over the love.

1215
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 5: I love it.

1216
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 4: Uh listen, this guy debuted and he beat kaykr France,

1217
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: I mean Kykarl Franz. Though fun study and that was

1218
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 4: a wild fight. Brandon reval Is has all the tools.

1219
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 4: The only issue I have with him is sometimes and

1220
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 4: this might not even the issue. This might be his

1221
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 4: great strength, as like he gets a little too excited

1222
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 4: and then he gets worn down like in the Pantosia fight.

1223
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 4: But other than that, this was pure chaos with Mat Schnell.

1224
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 4: He's a solid dude, good boxer, good on the ground.

1225
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 4: Revaul gets caught in a lot of his fights and

1226
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 4: again he just seems to live in this chaos and

1227
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 4: he loves it. But I'm excited for this kid. He's

1228
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: long for the division. He's built different. That guillotine he

1229
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 4: didn't even have his hands locked and Schnell was in

1230
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 4: trouble like that thing must be death and tight. But

1231
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 4: I the futures bride for Revall, for sure, he had

1232
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 4: those two little kids. But uh uh, yeah, I'm excited

1233
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 4: for this kid at one twenty five. Twenty five is

1234
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 4: getting kind of exciting right now, you know what I mean.

1235
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 4: The division got cut and now is getting brought back.

1236
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 4: Let's go a little.

1237
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,479
Speaker 5: Guys, Cattata white Stead.

1238
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 8: That a fourth meeting between Davison Fiuretto and Brandon Moreno

1239
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 8: is likely not gonna be next. Not saying that Brandon

1240
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 8: Royball is gonna slide in there. I think he needs

1241
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 8: at least one more win. But what were your thoughts

1242
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 8: on Royball?

1243
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 5: My thoughts were that he looked like Miguel Torres in

1244
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 5: two thousand and eight WC.

1245
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 6: He's just like again, he's another guy. It's just a berserker.

1246
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm gonna try to finish you any way

1247
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 6: that I can. It doesn't matter. I'm gonna throw down.

1248
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 6: I might trip and you come on top and you're

1249
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 6: gonna try to ground and pound me. I'll try to

1250
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 6: take take your home and take your arm home with me.

1251
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 6: I'll try to choke you out, doesn't matter. He's just

1252
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 6: scrapping for a finish there. There's no strategicy, there's no uh,

1253
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 6: there's no tactics. He's just trying to take you out, man,

1254
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 6: and I love it. He's gonna earn a lot of

1255
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 6: fans because of it. I do think he needs to

1256
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 6: clean some stuff up for sure, But man, he's a talent.

1257
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 6: Talk about a guy who uh is almost the opposite

1258
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 6: a Rose where he he is going to fulfill all

1259
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 6: of his potential in the cage He's not afraid to

1260
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 6: throw that punch, He's not afraid to go for that submission.

1261
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 5: He almost does it to a fault. He's a little

1262
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 5: savage man. I love watching him.

1263
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 8: But how about Randy rude boy Brown over Chaos William's

1264
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 8: bast split decision, Kenny, It seemed as though when Randy

1265
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 8: just started believing in his corner and his skills, his

1266
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 8: skills actually started to take over. It was a close fight,

1267
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 8: but I had it for Randy Brown saw it that way,

1268
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 8: and this is a big win. I mean, this is

1269
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 8: a guy who we have seen grown up in the UFC,

1270
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 8: former Ring of Combat champion. What'd you make of that fight?

1271
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 8: Move into pay per view and ultimately how it went down.

1272
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 8: It continues to improve, and yeah, I think that first

1273
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 8: round was huge. I was like, okay, round two, we're

1274
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 8: gonna see what Randy Brown is made of. And he

1275
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 8: made the right adjustments, got back to believing in himself,

1276
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 8: got back to establishing that job using the long range,

1277
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 8: and then was really utilizing his footwork to get out

1278
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 8: of the way a lot of those huge power shots

1279
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 8: from Kaos Williams. And then when he would get hurt

1280
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 8: or get stunned, during the round he would fire right

1281
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 8: back and hurt Chaos.

1282
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 6: So see, this is the guy who literally was growing up.

1283
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 6: In that fight on Saturday night, it was It was

1284
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 6: great to see. I think this guy's a limit for

1285
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 6: the guy, He's gonna be somewhere to watch. Uh, definitely

1286
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 6: gonna be a problem, has some things to sort out.

1287
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 6: But who does it at that stage of their careers.

1288
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 6: I think he's someone to watch. That was a big

1289
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 6: win for him. Chaos is extremely dangerous. Uh, And I

1290
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 6: thought it was a close fight, but yeah, I had

1291
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 6: it for Randy as well, Brian.

1292
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 8: If memory serves you, guys both were on Randy Brown

1293
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 8: last week.

1294
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 5: We'll just make it that fight.

1295
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 4: I'm surprised you're not bagging on you with this ray Longo.

1296
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 4: Here here, John, he's going a little crazy. I've been

1297
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 4: down with a headache. I've been laying like this all day.

1298
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 5: But we're gone.

1299
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 4: Listen, uh rudeby listen. He looked great, slick, he's slicking there.

1300
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

1301
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 4: And that's the guy with Chaos like he after the

1302
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 4: I love his corner like him in his corner are

1303
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 4: so close. He needed to sit down after round one

1304
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: in his corner's like, what the quick get lazy in there,

1305
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 4: let's go. And then he comes out and he looks sharp.

1306
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: I mean Chas Williams again, not the most cleanest guy

1307
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: in the world, but he's got fucking.

1308
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: Big, big power.

1309
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 4: And Randy was shoulder rolling and slipping and moving great,

1310
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 4: heav movement, laying his big long shots. I thought his

1311
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 4: wrestling would when I capped that fight, I thought I

1312
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 4: was wrestling would be a little better. His entries looked

1313
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 4: a little sloppy to me. Cass is a big, strong guy,

1314
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 4: but other than that, he looked great. I had him

1315
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 4: winning that fight as well. I thought it was closed.

1316
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 4: A lot of my buddies saw kast one, but they

1317
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 4: also had money on Cass, so they got the green

1318
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 4: colored glasses effect there. But ruteboy looked great. I think

1319
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 4: this kid's a problem at one seventy, especially if he

1320
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 4: gets confidence, a young, dangerous, confident, huge one seventy. He

1321
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 4: was kind of good everywhere. Was checking some leg kicks

1322
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 4: as well, because he's got skinny legs, so I was

1323
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 4: a little worried about that. But he's checking them beautifully.

1324
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 4: This good problem I won seventy man.

1325
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, they built him well, methodically, built him in the UFC,

1326
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 8: and he's a crewed obviously a lot of big show experience.

1327
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 8: I'm excited to see the future for Randy Brown, probably

1328
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 8: getting a top fifteen opponent next. We also congratulate Lupita Godnez,

1329
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 8: who sort of emerged into Strawway contention just by virtue

1330
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 8: of the domination of Arianni carne Losi. Tracy Cortes has

1331
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 8: won ten straight fights. She has never lost in the UFC,

1332
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 8: and if you are to believe her coach Santino DeFranco,

1333
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 8: she has a definite championship mindset. So I'm very excited,

1334
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 8: if not bullish, to see her future in the UFC

1335
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 8: women's flyweight division. How about the human atm Andre Fialio, right,

1336
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 8: I mean, this guy's fighting in Singapore. You know, my

1337
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 8: prep's pretty much done, Andre, you know, but he's gonna

1338
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 8: fight on that pay per view. Dana White said he

1339
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 8: will fight at UFC two seventy five, and sort of

1340
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 8: shades of kamzac Chimaia here can flow with Andre Fialio,

1341
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 8: not in terms of the stylist or the fighter necessarily,

1342
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 8: but that sometimes the UFC finds a guy who wants

1343
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 8: to stay active and they keep him active. And I'm

1344
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 8: Mike Comzat who's on a championship trajectory night right now,

1345
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 8: whose coaches are preventing him from fighting every few weeks.

1346
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 5: I mean, Fialio. This is crazy. This is like a

1347
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 5: dream sequence for him. Dude, his nickname should be let

1348
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 5: Me Bang bro Ny. Does he have a nickname? Can

1349
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 5: we give that?

1350
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 8: Just human atm comes from our joint coach, Rio Santana

1351
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 8: at the Institute of human But.

1352
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 5: Is that his fight nickname?

1353
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 3: You?

1354
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 4: No?

1355
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 5: Okay?

1356
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 6: All right, yeah, yeah, bank Bro, Let's do it, dude. Yeah,

1357
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 6: it's crazy. Man, He's a tough dud. He's one of those.

1358
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 8: Quiet guys that it actually rhymes too Andre, let me

1359
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 8: bang bro Filio.

1360
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 5: Although yeah, him like a little long, like what was

1361
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 5: he doing with that surname Forlio? What was he saying saying?

1362
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 5: Go ahead ken Flow. I'm sorry, I'm a little underslip. No, man,

1363
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 5: it's all good. I uh know. He's a beast.

1364
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 6: Hits hard as hell, trains really hard from what we

1365
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 6: he what we hear, and uh yeah, I'm I'm I'm

1366
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 6: excited for the guy man, all right.

1367
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 8: Before we move on to our picks for UFC Fight

1368
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,479
Speaker 8: Night and we will get some thoughts from Ken Flow

1369
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 8: on the PFL on the back end of the show

1370
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 8: because he was there live as Kayla Harrison, Rory MacDonald

1371
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 8: and Anthony show Time Patison others got big wins there

1372
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 8: in episode three of this current season.

1373
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 5: Of the PFL.

1374
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 8: But Bruy, if he got sixty seconds for me on

1375
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 8: Michael Chandler and or Tony Ferguson, I would certainly take it.

1376
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 8: I just have in my notes that I would like

1377
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 8: to get your two cents on that.

1378
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: Man.

1379
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 4: I thought Tony looked great. I think you guys covered

1380
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 4: a lot of it. He looked fast in there. I

1381
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 4: mean that left hand that dropped Chandler was quick. He

1382
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 4: looked fast. He looked to be in better shape than

1383
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 4: he has. He looked a little more filled out. And

1384
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 4: when he got taken down, he was active off his

1385
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 4: bottom with there was a lot of elbows. Was it

1386
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 4: was a great first round and I had a ticket

1387
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 4: for Chandler and I was a little nervous of that

1388
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 4: first round. I was like, oh, we got OKAKUI here, yeah,

1389
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 4: you know, and then that kick again it wasn't the

1390
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 4: most pitcher perfect kick, but so powerful and put him out.

1391
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 4: I was stunned. Was crazy though, is I had a

1392
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 4: gut feeling. I got a lot of shit in the

1393
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 4: comments for kind of rallying on Tony Ferguson about, you know,

1394
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 4: maybe needs to change some things up. So I kind

1395
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 4: of trusted my gut put a big old number on

1396
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 4: Chandler by ko oh, and so I got to drive

1397
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 4: the Indiana place my bets and when I come home,

1398
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 4: I usually screenshot the thing on Drafting Sportsbook and I

1399
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 4: had to go double check. I was like, yeah, I

1400
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 4: want five hundred bucks. I'm like, yeah, let's go, and

1401
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 4: I go and I check, and my dumb ass forgot that.

1402
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 4: I put lsb PI KO with it as in a

1403
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 4: parlay and I didn't win the money. So now I'm bummed.

1404
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 4: And now I get to see Tony Ferguson still sleep

1405
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 4: on the camp, which was I did not want to

1406
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 4: see because I like Tony Fersten. But man, yeah, Chandler

1407
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 4: got that mic. He killed it on the mic again,

1408
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 4: him and Connor at once seventy. Because the thing with

1409
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 4: Connor is OLIVERA. Obviously he should get DIBs if Connor

1410
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 4: wants to come back and fight for the title. But

1411
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 4: I don't see Connor. I mean, you see him on

1412
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 4: his yacht, you see him lately. I don't know if

1413
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 4: he's making fifty five, and there's no sense of putting

1414
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 4: him a chance or him in Olivera at seventy for

1415
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 4: the fifty five pounds title. I mean, Connor McGregor can

1416
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 4: do whatever he wants. But Chandler and him headlining at

1417
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 4: one seventy, that'd be a fun fight.

1418
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 5: That'd be great. All right.

1419
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 8: So we do have one audio file for you today

1420
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 8: for the pronunciation of the week from the Great Cody Marrow.

1421
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 8: And we bring this audio file to your attention just

1422
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 8: because this man is fighting in the main event against

1423
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 8: Tyambohovitch this weekend and he pronounces his name kind of

1424
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 8: two different ways on the file. So, Cody, I know

1425
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 8: we don't see your lovely face right now, but do

1426
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 8: you care to Uh.

1427
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 9: Hey, I didn't know you wanted to see me.

1428
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 5: Are you wearing your Chandler fifty five Astros Jersey? Is

1429
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 5: that you?

1430
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1431
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1432
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 5: I am actually all right? So can I tell the story? Yeah? Yeah,

1433
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 5: go ahead, all right? Can you all right?

1434
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: So?

1435
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, So Cody has a custom made Michael Chandler Houston

1436
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 8: Astros Jersey and it says fifty five on the back, right,

1437
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 8: Champ Right. So he came to the Chandler olivera fight

1438
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 8: in Houston as my guest, and Chandler came very close

1439
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 8: to making that jersey like something super historic, but of

1440
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 8: course that night he did not break through. But it

1441
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 8: seems like you're celebrating his win here today.

1442
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 7: So yeah, well, and you left that the best part

1443
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 7: of the story where when we met up for drinks

1444
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 7: after the jersey was not on me right right. The

1445
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 7: jersey made its way back to the hotel after the

1446
01:04:58,520 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 7: outcome of that fight.

1447
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 8: So Jan Pohovich is back this weekend, and I just

1448
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 8: want you to tell the masses the name of the

1449
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 8: guy he's fighting.

1450
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 9: So he's fighting Alexander Rockic.

1451
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 8: All right, So you said Alexander like Volkanovski, right, Alexander

1452
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 8: like Hernandez. Alexander the fucking great. Let's hear mister Rockitch

1453
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 8: pronounce his name.

1454
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 7: Alexander, Alexander Raki, Alexander Rakic.

1455
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 5: It's like the bank Alexander.

1456
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 8: So it's spelled like alex Sandar, like Sa and Dar.

1457
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 8: And when he slows it down he says it that way.

1458
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 8: But when he speeds it up. It's more like Alexander,

1459
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 8: so we go Alexander Rockitic on the broadcast. Wasn't a

1460
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 8: very challenging card. We were going to trot out Vienna

1461
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 8: Janji Doba and Cody. Yeah you know, Tody, but we're

1462
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 8: gonna shot out Vienna Janji Doba and Cody just replies

1463
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 8: to my email with like the perfect phonetics.

1464
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, we've probably done that one well and.

1465
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 9: People still get that one wrong. So yeah, I mean

1466
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 9: that one's so easy that you should get it right.

1467
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 8: But yeah, well, we will hear from you in about

1468
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 8: fifteen minutes for the merriwseconds. Thank you very much. It

1469
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 8: is now time for the main event challenge, brought to

1470
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 8: you by the Chicken Pound.

1471
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 5: Okay, ah, all right, before.

1472
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 8: Fights to get to today, and admittedly I came off

1473
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 8: an airplane, so I have not done much in terms

1474
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 8: of preparation for these, but I can tell you that

1475
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 8: Amanda Hebos is competing at flyweight and not straw it

1476
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 8: this weekend against Kaitlynd chu Kegan right now in DraftKings Sportsbook.

1477
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 8: Kaitlynd chu Kegan minus one thirty Amanda Hebos plus one

1478
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 8: ten VP.

1479
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 5: Who do you have.

1480
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 4: I'm high in Hebos. I've been high on her. I

1481
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 4: know she dropped the Marina Higos fights. You get knocked out,

1482
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 4: but I mean, I think she's got all the skills

1483
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 4: in the world. Chickegian, she's a staple of division. She's

1484
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 4: been on the top forever. I can't help but think

1485
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 4: of female tennis players when Chikegan fights with a lot

1486
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 4: of yeah, you know, and yeah. It's in the apex,

1487
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 4: so it's gonna be loud in there. But I think

1488
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 4: Hebos has more skills. She's towns on the feet and

1489
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 4: the ground. She's coming off of you know, she.

1490
01:06:58,560 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: Made her name.

1491
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 4: I heard a lot about her because training out of

1492
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 4: att she had, you know, a lot of good things

1493
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 4: to say about her. She dominated Mackenzie Dern and then

1494
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 4: she got knocked out by Marina Judeguez. But she's coming

1495
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 4: off of a good one ever Janji Joba, and she's

1496
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 4: been KAO twice in her young career. So I think

1497
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 4: that's the knock. I think that's why we're getting a

1498
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 4: plus number here. However, Chikegan has zero finishes and her

1499
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 4: ten YOC fights, I think we're safe. It's a difficult

1500
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 4: task to place a bet against Chaikegan in this division

1501
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 4: because she likes to squeak out decisions. She's a competitive girl.

1502
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 5: She only has lou lost.

1503
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 4: To like the elite elite. But I think Hey Boss

1504
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 4: is gonna be elite.

1505
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 5: I don't love it.

1506
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 4: That's at one twenty five. I get it, you know,

1507
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 4: maybe you know Heboss doesn't wan to kid the wait.

1508
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 4: She just wants to fight. But I like Keeboss here

1509
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 4: at the plus money, and I like the two and

1510
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 4: a half over as well. I think this is gonna

1511
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 4: go a decision, give me Heboss by decision.

1512
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 8: Ken Well, I've really grown to love Caitlyn Chukegan as

1513
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 8: a person. I love that she likes cannabis, also the

1514
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 8: fact that she works exceedingly hard. I also had liked

1515
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 8: the way she has approached these fights with the non Valentina.

1516
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 8: Shevchenkos the world as if to say, like, none of

1517
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 8: the rest of you can fucking beat me, And she

1518
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 8: hasn't rested on her laurels. She drives all over the

1519
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 8: goddamn joint to get the best training goes where she

1520
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 8: finds value, strength and conditioning approaches. All in, obviously, I

1521
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 8: know her better than I know Heboss who trains, of

1522
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 8: course on her Pahumba, and he thinks he's got a

1523
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 8: future champion on his hands. Maybe at one hundred and

1524
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 8: fifteen pounds more likely, but who knows. What are your

1525
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 8: thoughts on Hebos and chikeg in big fight here in

1526
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 8: the women's flyweight division.

1527
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 5: This is an interesting one, and I totally know why

1528
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 5: Brian is picking Heboss.

1529
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 6: I have slept on Chakegian a little bit, you know.

1530
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 6: I think that she's a solid performer man, She's good everywhere.

1531
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 6: I think she has gained a lot of confidence over

1532
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 6: the years. She's gained a lot of experience over the years.

1533
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 6: And while I do think that Heboss can pull this

1534
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 6: one off, I think it's a tad early for Heboss

1535
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 6: here against Chaikegian. I think Chakegan is going to be

1536
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 6: able to get get the win here. I don't think

1537
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 6: she finishes he Boss, you know. I think it will

1538
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 6: be close. But I think Chakegian knows how to win rounds.

1539
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 6: I think she knows how to establish that jab, keep

1540
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 6: Heboss on the outside, uh and not get foolish on

1541
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 6: the feet where she gets hit with a big shot.

1542
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 6: I don't see that really happening, and I think she

1543
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 6: is going to be able to utilize her wrestling or

1544
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 6: counter wrestling to neutralize he Boss if he Boss tries

1545
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 6: to initiate some grappling exchanges. So yeah, again, I think

1546
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 6: there's certainly value with Heboss as the underdog. But I

1547
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 6: like I like Caitlyn here all right, dissension there. Ken

1548
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 6: Full likes Kaitlyn Chukegan at bantam waight. Now, Brian, you

1549
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 6: got Davy Grant three to one favorite. Nice to see

1550
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 6: him healthy and keeping an active schedule. He takes on

1551
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 6: Lewis Smolka, who is plus two thirty five Your thoughts.

1552
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,839
Speaker 4: I feel like I start a lot of my breakdowns

1553
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 4: with a man I've underestimated this guy, But David Grant,

1554
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 4: I have underestimated this guy coming off the Alton Fighter.

1555
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 4: I thought he's just kind of average, and I was like,

1556
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 4: oh the US, He's just give him a fight to

1557
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 4: fulfill his contract. No, no, no, no, I apologize Davy,

1558
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 4: You sir an absolute savage. You're coming off a razor

1559
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 4: close decision over Adrian or not, so I think is

1560
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 4: the top of the bnsion. I think the kid's gonna

1561
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 4: be future one thirty five. He's gonna mix and then

1562
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 4: before that decision loss, which you've already beat Cheeto and

1563
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 4: Cheetah runs the world right now, man Cheeto for president

1564
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 4: for christ sakes. But Grant only fights tough guys. He

1565
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 4: has big power in his left hook is striking is

1566
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 4: a little awkward, which I like because it's hard to read.

1567
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 4: It's not the most beautiful thing in the world. He

1568
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 4: kind of throws a little wild, kind of reminds me

1569
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 4: of a little rich Age Franklin a little bit. Since

1570
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 4: I legend he kind of comes over with his shots

1571
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 4: and Smoka has been pretty up and down career. Kim,

1572
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 4: you'll see undefeated, lost his debut, rattles off four wins,

1573
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 4: then four losses, battles some personal stuff, gets cut, works

1574
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 4: his ass off outside of the UFC, gets brought back,

1575
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 4: takes sum Majari's arm with him on his debut back,

1576
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 4: and then ever since he's been win loss, win, lost,

1577
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 4: when loss, but the mental of this guy, he's got

1578
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 4: to be pretty bulletproof to go through a lot, get

1579
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 4: your way back to the show, and keep fighting. The

1580
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 4: only problem I have here is he's coming off a

1581
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 4: losso over against Morales, so I don't really see as

1582
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 4: a big power puncher, and I do see David Grant

1583
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 4: as a power puncher, So no more fake this guy.

1584
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 4: I'm on the Davy train. Baby, Let's go David Grant

1585
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 4: by ko.

1586
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 8: Here beautifully done with that breakdown, Brian Petrie and Davey

1587
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 8: Grant Ken Flow getting the respect from the odds makers

1588
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 8: and seemingly the betting public as well, three to one

1589
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 8: favorite here this weekend.

1590
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 6: Your thoughts on that one Davy Grant came to it

1591
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 6: went to a seminar of mine in the UK many

1592
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 6: many years.

1593
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 5: But no, it's great to see him do well. Man.

1594
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 6: He's tough as nails. I think he's just a more

1595
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 6: consistent performer. And I think this is what Brian was

1596
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 6: kind of alluding to here. We called Lewis Lewis Smolka's

1597
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 6: first fight in the UFC and and a few after that.

1598
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 6: He always showed a ton of promise, a ton of potential,

1599
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 6: but would get hit a ton And I think he's

1600
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 6: had a lot of wars at this point, and I

1601
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 6: think Davy Grant is gonna find that chin and if

1602
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 6: he doesn't hurt him on the feet, I think Davey

1603
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 6: Grant really doesn't make a whole lot of mistakes if

1604
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 6: he gets that top position, which I think he will

1605
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 6: ultimately get against Smoka too if they get some grappling exchanges.

1606
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 5: So I like Davy here all.

1607
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 8: Right, co made event Ewan Lava modus two hundred. Ryan

1608
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 8: Span is plus one seventy here in the UFC Light

1609
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 8: Heavyweight division. Brian Petrie, we will go to you on

1610
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 8: the co main events.

1611
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,560
Speaker 4: You know they always say quarterbacks are supposed to have

1612
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 4: short memories, right, throw an interception forget it. I do

1613
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 4: not have that because I am still obsessed over why

1614
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 4: Ryan Span shot on a hurt Johnny Walker.

1615
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 5: Dude, I know you.

1616
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 4: SPAN's useder two A five has big powered cardios. Seems

1617
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 4: to be a bobster. Huge cardios seems to be via

1618
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 4: this IQ. Obviously. I think you got to put in

1619
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 4: a question because of the Walker fight, even the Sam

1620
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 4: Almy fight as well. He made that way harder than

1621
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 4: it should have been and then cut de Lava. I

1622
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 4: mean this is good, batshit crazy wild man, and I

1623
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 4: mean that with high praise. This dude can make playing

1624
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 4: checkers fucking intense. Like this guy is nuts. And listen, John,

1625
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 4: you gotta appreciate he shaved the dome he's looking even

1626
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 4: meaner than ever. Body transformation a little bit, a little

1627
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 4: bit leaned out, kind of bricked up. And his last

1628
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 4: fight he fought mart he showed good cardio over Devin

1629
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 4: Clark and he just destroyed his teeth. And I went

1630
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 4: and looked at that picture as prep for this fight.

1631
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 4: I advise everyone out there don't look at that picture.

1632
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 4: It is brutal nightmares tonight. But I just like Cutalaba.

1633
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 3: I like his skill.

1634
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 4: I think he can wrestle. I think he has power.

1635
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 4: His biggest issue was obviously cardio, and he looked like

1636
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 4: he fixed that because Devon Clark's not an easy guy

1637
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 4: to fight. Devin Clark's awkward. And then another thing is

1638
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 4: I think he gets too ramped up. He gets too

1639
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 4: ramped up, and he sometimes needs to settle down a

1640
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 4: little bit when he gets in there. But if he

1641
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 4: fixes out, I think it's gonna be a tough night

1642
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 4: for Span here. I think he needs to grapple Span early,

1643
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 4: because don't go throwing bombs that first round, because Span

1644
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 4: does have a lot of knockouts.

1645
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 3: Early.

1646
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 4: Grap a little bit, use your well round in this year,

1647
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 4: Calm down a little bit, be a crazy wild man,

1648
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 4: and that and that that second and third round. I

1649
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 4: like Colaba by tkl late maybe second, early third, and

1650
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 4: this is all depending on if his cardio is what

1651
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 4: it was in.

1652
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 8: The Devin Clark all right, Patrislava can't flow your thoughts

1653
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 8: on the co main event.

1654
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 5: Can Laba fight with that green paint? Is that possible?

1655
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 5: I deny that. Whether the commission not allow that? Pretty cool?

1656
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:01,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1657
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 6: I like kutz Lava here as well. Man, I think

1658
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 6: the dude is extremely powerful.

1659
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 5: I don't see Span. Uh.

1660
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 6: You know, I think where Kutzalaba is is vulnerable as

1661
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 6: if Span is able to get on top, and you know,

1662
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 6: maybe he can work at jiu jitsu there on top. Uh,

1663
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 6: But I think Kutzalaba is gonna be able to utilize

1664
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 6: his rest and to keep this one on the feed

1665
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 6: and ultimately score some kind of t KO or knockout.

1666
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 5: So I'm with Brian on this one as well.

1667
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1668
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 8: Kutzalava all right, and Ken flow, We will lead with

1669
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 8: you on the main event, which was to go down

1670
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 8: March twenty sixth in Columbus, Ohio Alexander Rokicic and Yan Beohovich.

1671
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 8: But Whovich, the former UFC light heavyweight champion was forced

1672
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 8: to pull out. It is Rockets minus one fifty five,

1673
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 8: whovis plus one thirty five. How do you see it

1674
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 8: playing out? Ken flow? Do you think that Bohovic has

1675
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 8: enough here against Rokich, who has really been on a

1676
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 8: tear to get back on a trajectory to his belt.

1677
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 5: Which bohovis is going to show up here? That that's

1678
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 5: that question really the question.

1679
01:14:59,120 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1680
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like there's a couple of them out there,

1681
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 5: and I feel like.

1682
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 6: If Bohovic gets back to his roots and you know,

1683
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 6: initiates these takedowns and sets them up properly and is

1684
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 6: engaged in the fight the whole time, I think Bohovich

1685
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 6: wins his fight. I think he takes down Rockets and

1686
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 6: he submits them or ground and pounds them. Rockets, though,

1687
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 6: is a problem on the feet, and I think with

1688
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 6: Behovich seemingly losing some confidence perhaps in the last last

1689
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 6: couple of fights, I don't I don't know. I think

1690
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 6: if he's hesitant out there, Rockets is gonna go out

1691
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 6: there and start them. And I think for me, the

1692
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 6: critical thing is like the first five minutes, first seven

1693
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 6: minutes of this fight, if Bohovic is able to kind

1694
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 6: of get past that. I think he's got a good

1695
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 6: shot at getting this win. But Behovich kind of needs

1696
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 6: to get comfortable early. If he doesn't, I fear for him.

1697
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 6: I think Rockets is riding high right now on confidence.

1698
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 6: I think he's going to be the faster dude on

1699
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 6: the feed. He's more dangerous on the feet, not that

1700
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,879
Speaker 6: Bohovich can't knock him out, but not the guy who's hesitant,

1701
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 6: not the guy who won't let his hands go. So gosh,

1702
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 6: this is a tough one for me. I think there's

1703
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 6: value though, with Yan, you know, being the underdog here.

1704
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 6: I'll take Bohovic all right.

1705
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 8: Ten flows on the Behovich side, Brian Petrie, Rockets the

1706
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 8: longer fighter, seemingly the faster fighter, the bigger man, I

1707
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 8: think in many respects, if not the thicker guy.

1708
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on Rockets here? Minus won fifty five.

1709
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 4: Been chewing on his fight for a while because it

1710
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 4: was gonna be in Columbus, which I was gonna be at,

1711
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 4: and I'm feel a little sentimental to ab been going

1712
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 4: kind of deep on these, you know about the peak

1713
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 4: history because deep my got DC guys in the Hall

1714
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 4: of Fame, and then Michael Chandler's son in the cage.

1715
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a softie when it comes to that stuff.

1716
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 4: But Yon started his career two and four, you know

1717
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 4: what I mean. And I mean if someone would offer

1718
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 4: me a bed head Yom Belhova's world champion, I would

1719
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 4: have taken it and he would have shoved it up

1720
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 4: my ass because he did it. And I think a

1721
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 4: lot of young fighters can look at a guy like

1722
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 4: Yan Mahovid said, listen, we're too and four, but we're

1723
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 4: gonna battle, We're gonna get better. And that's exactly what

1724
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 4: he did. But he's thirty nine, he's coming off a

1725
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 4: loss where man, you know, Glover to his chair is

1726
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 4: very good. But it was a weird performance by Yon.

1727
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 4: You know, he got stung early on the feet, which

1728
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 4: John's usually very chin holds up, and then he seemed

1729
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 4: a little tired. The wrestling, the grappling wasn't there. I mean,

1730
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 4: I know Glover's chair is all man and probably is

1731
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 4: stronger than Glover or John's ever fault before, but it

1732
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 4: was surprising to me, and I think you guys hit

1733
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 4: it on the head. What y'all are we gonna get

1734
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 4: rackage you know, Rockets is mister Twitter fingers. You know

1735
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 4: he's calling out commentators, He's calling on everyone on Twitter, right,

1736
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 4: And I kind of love that. You know, a young, confident,

1737
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 4: dangerous fighter. And this guy's legs the size of my

1738
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 4: fucking house. I mean, this guy's legs are huge, great

1739
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 4: high kicks. His hands are a little work in progress,

1740
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 4: but his last two fights he's been usually the grappling

1741
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 4: all I'm a kickbox are great. I'm a fucking huge

1742
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 4: guy at two oh five. I'm gonna take you down, you.

1743
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 5: Know what I mean?

1744
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 4: He and then uh, he likes to control position as

1745
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 4: opposed to submissions. Why Yon Blohovis has submission wins in

1746
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 4: the UF season to black Belt, don't know how great

1747
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 4: he is off his back, I think, unfortunately, not unfortunate.

1748
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 4: Excuse me, I didn't even say that. I would love

1749
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 4: to see it standing up and in striking, because John's

1750
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 4: got that awkward timing and Rocket's former kickboxer. But I

1751
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 4: do think it's gonna be a grappling fight. I think

1752
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 4: both guys are going to battle for the top position

1753
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 4: because neither guy are probably comfortable after they're back, and

1754
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 4: I see that happening I see Rockets being a little

1755
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 4: bit bigger and more confident than Yon and getting top

1756
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 4: position on Young. It's not going to be easy again.

1757
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 4: This is a good live betting spot. I think it's

1758
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 4: going to go to the decision.

1759
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 5: I like Rockets.

1760
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 4: By decision, I'll go oppositely. My men can flow here,

1761
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 4: even though I hate disagreeing with the you know g

1762
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 4: but I gotta do it.

1763
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 8: Let's go Bye Patriot going with Rockets, and I guess

1764
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 8: on the live betting front, you have to cross the

1765
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 8: state line to Indiana.

1766
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 4: I I recommend live betting. I unfortunately cannot do it.

1767
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 4: I don't do all shorts book anymore than fucking junk. Sorry,

1768
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 4: if you're getting a responsorble.

1769
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,799
Speaker 5: Hey I got cookie. If you I got a great bookie.

1770
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 4: I've been getting you know, so funny every since if

1771
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 4: you don't know been on this show, I've been getting

1772
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 4: DM like, hey man, if you want to Venmo bookie,

1773
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,799
Speaker 4: we got you. And I'm like, oh good, I'm thinking scared.

1774
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 8: It is really dangerous, though y I tried to save

1775
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 8: the Boston Bruins season by like Max betting the Carolina.

1776
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 8: Now my wife, all of a sudden, tomorrow is going

1777
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 8: to be like, why there's like four figures coming out

1778
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 8: of our checking account. Well, honey, because the Bruins are

1779
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 8: two too instead of down three to one. That's right,

1780
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 8: all right, Amma takes podcast feature more. Hey, appreciate your patience,

1781
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 8: my man. And uh, it's just great having you part

1782
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 8: of the show on a weekly basis. Brother, have a

1783
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 8: good week drive Well.

1784
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely love being part of the show. You guys

1785
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 4: are the best. And John, by the way, you did

1786
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 4: killed it last night. I know there were some spots

1787
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 4: that were a little tricky, you know, you know, we

1788
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 4: talked about it, but you guys killed it awesome. Can

1789
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 4: you kill on the PFL as well? My man, I

1790
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 4: watched Friday night.

1791
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 5: I see you boys there.

1792
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 8: He is Petrie Dish every week here on the Anakin

1793
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 8: Florian podcast. For the Main Event challenge, all right, I

1794
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 8: have a few notes. I had no notes for the

1795
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 8: Main Event Challenge, but I have some notes on the PFL. Okay,

1796
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 8: So Kayla Harrison gets extended but wins. Right, Rory McDonald

1797
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 8: was dominant. Great win for Anthony Showtime Pattison. Then it

1798
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 8: appears as though Glason Tebow, who got a gift last

1799
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 8: year against Rory McDonald was on the wrong side of

1800
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 8: a robbery.

1801
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 5: Would you call it a robbery or no?

1802
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 6: I wouldn't call it a robbery, But I thought based

1803
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 6: on what I saw, I thought that Tebow should have

1804
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 6: definitely not on the level of when he thought Rory.

1805
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 6: If I'm being honest, that might have been one of

1806
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 6: the worst decisions of twenty twenty one. But this one

1807
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 6: I thought Taba should have should have got the win. Man,

1808
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 6: he fought hard. It's amazing what he has done on

1809
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 6: the course of his career. Men've been fighting forever. Was

1810
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 6: a tremendous shape, just a beast. But unfortunate there.

1811
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 8: What about Rory look so like this is not intelligently defending,

1812
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 8: Like this is like I want to go home, like

1813
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 8: like we need to see him get choked as.

1814
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 5: Well, Like I don't know. I thought the fight should

1815
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 5: have been stopped, but obviously happy to see Rory excel.

1816
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 5: What were your thoughts on Rory Mack.

1817
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 6: Rory looked phenomenal man, you know has been switching things up,

1818
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 6: gone down to Austin, Texas, training with you know, one

1819
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 6: of the best jiu jitsu martial arts minds in the

1820
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 6: world in John Danaher looked phenomenal on the ground, hit

1821
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 6: a beautiful single leg took him down.

1822
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 5: Just dominant.

1823
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 6: And and Brett Cooper is a guy who's been around

1824
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 6: the block. Man, he's not an guy to take out.

1825
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 6: And Rory made him look, you know, like it was

1826
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,799
Speaker 6: early in his career. So Rory looked phenomenal. And Anthony Pettis,

1827
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 6: dude just looked like vintage Anthony Pettis.

1828
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 5: I was like, he was just on his game. He

1829
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 5: was really pissed off of what happened last year, and

1830
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 5: you could see it.

1831
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 3: He was.

1832
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 5: He was fired off. He's like, listen, man, I was

1833
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,600
Speaker 5: humbled last year. I did not do what I was

1834
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 5: should you know, should have done in training and uh.

1835
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know you could say win there for showtime Pettis.

1836
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 8: And then one of my favorite human beings in the world,

1837
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 8: Kayla Harrison, what do you have for me on that fight?

1838
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 8: I didn't see it, you.

1839
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 6: Know, she she wasn't happy with her performance. It wasn't uh,

1840
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 6: you know, the dominant Kayla that were used to seeing.

1841
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 6: But it was a dominant win.

1842
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 3: You know.

1843
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 6: It was about as dominant of a decision win as

1844
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 6: you can get, you know, for the most part. But

1845
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 6: you know, I think Marina is a really tough uh

1846
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 6: makknockkna uh a seven time sambo world champion.

1847
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 5: She's a tough out man. And she did her homework

1848
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 5: and she was doing her best out there.

1849
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 3: Uh.

1850
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 6: And you know, I think Kayla had some trouble there.

1851
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 6: And you know the thing is every once in a while, Uh,

1852
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 6: you're gonna have an off night. And if you have

1853
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 6: an off night, you can still get the win, then

1854
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 6: thank your lucky stars.

1855
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 3: So uh.

1856
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 6: Still, you know, Kayla undefeated still again. People forget she

1857
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 6: she doesn't have many fights. She's still figuring this out.

1858
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 6: Uh but still looking uh looking looking good.

1859
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 8: All right, congratulations to Kayla Harrison, who, of course, we

1860
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 8: hope to get back on the Anakin Floring Podcast at

1861
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 8: one point in time.

1862
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 5: All Right, all hail Charles OLIVERA.

1863
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 8: But I'm sure we missed something today, so we call

1864
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 8: on our executive producer, Cody Merrow.

1865
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Speaker 5: What's up, man, Hey, bi beat bepepen the big cooin

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01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 5: weather update here? Uh, what's up a big coin like?

1867
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Speaker 9: Okay, today, okay, good time to buy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna yeah, it is a good time to buy.

1869
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 6: I'm just uh, you know, I'm gonna be a little

1870
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 6: busy working at McDonald's over the next couple of months.

1871
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 5: But knock knack, I forget bitcoin.

1872
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 6: Everything's going down, right, So listen, I think it's a

1873
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 6: again long term hold I repeat, long term, long term.

1874
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 5: Man, I'm not selling.

1875
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 7: Well, it's like Tesla, right, I mean, a guy buys

1876
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 7: Twitter and then all of a sudden Tesla goes down

1877
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 7: and it's like, what does social media have to do

1878
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 7: with my auto driving car? Like people just hate el

1879
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 7: But the reason I bring it up, you fc two

1880
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 7: seventy four crypto bonuses olivet I got ten grand, Chandler

1881
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 7: got twenty grand, and Rose got the fan vote number

1882
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 7: one crypto bonus for thirty grand. So walking away thirty

1883
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 7: grand almost a full big cooin. Well yeah, almost a.

1884
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 5: Full bitcoin richer. And maybe in a couple of days.

1885
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 9: Maybe by the time she gets it, it'll be a

1886
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 9: full bitcoin.

1887
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 3: Hope.

1888
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 9: Not not gonna hold on of those.

1889
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 5: Okay.

1890
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 7: So a couple more news and notes just from two

1891
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 7: seventy four. Carlo aspar Is the longest time between title

1892
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 7: reigns twenty six hundred and twelve days.

1893
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 8: Nuts, man, I mean that's really cool, you know, And

1894
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 8: to do it at one hundred and fifteen pounds, like

1895
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 8: I said on the broadcast, not taking a shot. But

1896
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 8: she had been to like five split or majority decisions

1897
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 8: in the UFC, and recently if any one of those

1898
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 8: goes the other way, she doesn't even get the chance

1899
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 8: to fight for the title again in some part given

1900
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 8: her style, you know. So I'm just happy for Carla

1901
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 8: that she was able to perform well enough to win.

1902
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 7: And that fight kind of felt like it was about

1903
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 7: twenty six hundred and twelve days.

1904
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 8: Well, somebody said to me there, like John one more

1905
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 8: sleep was not accurate, you know, like they said all

1906
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 8: the one more sleep stuff, because there was actually there

1907
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 8: was an original sleep it was it was the comin event.

1908
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that fight made me go into a little

1909
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 7: bit of the statistics deep dive. I just thought it

1910
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 7: was interesting. So Rose versus Carlo, she had thirty seven

1911
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 7: total strikes right in the fights, the championship fights that

1912
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 7: she fought prior that weren't absolutely you know, washes in

1913
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 7: the first Rose versus Saying two twenty strikes in the

1914
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 7: first round, Ross is Andrage thirty strikes in the first round.

1915
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 9: Ross you wanted two twenty one strikes in the first round.

1916
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, so just absolutely, you know, almost one of those

1917
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 7: performances that you just write off. You know, maybe in

1918
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 7: the long run of Rose's career, we're going to say that,

1919
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 7: but definitely not on the Sunday morning after.

1920
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, Kenn, you look like you want to say something

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Speaker 9: about that.

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Speaker 5: No, No, it's crazy.

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Speaker 9: No, he doesn't, he does not want to say anything

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Speaker 9: more about it.

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Speaker 7: So I did want to point out that ray was

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Speaker 7: thrown it back to Denmark eighteen thirty seven for the

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Speaker 7: Emperor's New Clothes reference.

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Speaker 5: So how about that.

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Speaker 8: Wilberger is literally cutting that up right now. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 8: that was the perfect analogy by Raymond.

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Speaker 9: Hey, Garden City, don't sleep on the history.

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Speaker 7: Volkers Holloway three to comain event in International Fight Week,

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Speaker 7: So gonna be exciting stuff there. I was talking to

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Speaker 7: a friend in the industry. Is Hawaiian kickboxer the number

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Speaker 7: one walkout you know, of all time? I think it's

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Speaker 7: in the conversation.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's in the conversation for I'm a Curtis Blades

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Speaker 8: more of a kombat guy.

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Speaker 5: Now, there are a lot of great good stuff.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and last BUTINALI, so I wanted to just I

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Speaker 7: hope this isn't the end for Tony, but just a

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Speaker 7: couple of words for mister Ferguson. Yes, whoever's unjust, let

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Speaker 7: him be unjust. Still, whoever's righteous, let him be righteous. Still,

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Speaker 7: whoever's filthy, let him be filthy. Still, listen to the

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Speaker 9: Yes, here the pipers, hear the trumpets.

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Speaker 5: Just beautiful, beautiful, all right.

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Speaker 8: Couple notes on the way out, And again, if there

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Speaker 8: Maybe we'll get you on Instagram live later in the week.

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Speaker 8: Certainly wanted to give Lupy Godinez some more Sean and

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Speaker 5: A couple of programming notes.

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Speaker 8: We were happy to announce at this time that the

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Speaker 8: supporting this podcast. You know, as I say all the time,

1987
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Speaker 8: nothing warms my hat more than when I'm on the

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Speaker 8: hey man. I listened to the Anaka Florian podcast every week,

1990
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Speaker 8: so coming up on our eight year anniversary, still going strong.

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Speaker 8: Thank you all for tuning in today. For our executive

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Speaker 8: Much love to everybody out there, Stay healthy, don't text

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Speaker 1: Next time on Too Many Lawyers, we take on a

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2000
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Speaker 1: also illegal stuff. George Santos want a seat in Congress

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Speaker 1: by lying to voters, but is that a crime? And

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Speaker 1: Kanye West made it clear he hates Jews in England.

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