1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: Uh, and when I wake up, I recogn that you're 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: looking at me for the pay cut, but homocophic looking 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: at me for the face down with Mac eleven even 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: Boom from the base down scheme it and let me 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: tell you about my life. Painkillers only put me in 8 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: the twilight. We're pretty pussy your vigiamin. 9 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 3: This is a high light. They tell my mama, I 10 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: love her, but this is what I like. 11 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: Lord knows, twenty of them in my chevy telling them 12 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: all to come and get me with me everything I sold. 13 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Someone calla come in heaven and so comma come in heaven. 14 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: No preliminary hearing for my records on my record that 15 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: my mother fucking gang sign saying sounds for the record. 16 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: Uh tell the world I know is too late, Boys 17 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: and girls. I thank God God, crazy downs and this 18 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: down inside of my vices all day. 19 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: Why don't you please believe when I say, wouldn't you know? 20 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the Blackouts podcast, your host Rod and Karen. 21 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: You all right over there? 22 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 23 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: Sorry you sure? Yes? All right? Uh we are high, 24 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: No hope. 25 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 5: Sorry, I was looking at the browser. I was like, 26 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 5: did I use the right browser? 27 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: Oh? Maybe that's why I went to the other thing. 28 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. Care it looks good to me. I 29 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: don't know. 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We did, so. 73 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: I think the first thing that everybody would be happy 74 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: to hear that we watched was Beyonce's brand new Netflix special. 75 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: We didn't get a chance to watch it on Wednesday 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: when it came out. As you guys have probably noticed, 77 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: we have been very busy, so we knew we would 78 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: probably get to watch it this weekend. 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: Shout out to Chris Uh. 80 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: We were all movie trailer reviews, our net podcast and 81 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: Sandy Check, so that's how we So we didn't get 82 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: to watch it Saturday because of that, and then we 83 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: woke up Sunday morning and got information. I do wonder 84 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: what we could possibly say that has not been said 85 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: by everybody already, you know, to be honest with you, 86 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: I mean, we watched it a little later than everybody, 87 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: which is funny because Beyonce so like five days and 88 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what we're gonna say that's any different 89 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: from what the fuck y'all heard other places. But it 90 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: was an amazing experience, Karen, I know you said you 91 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: wanted to talk about this, so I'll let you go first. 92 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I actually was. 93 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 5: I stayed up and watched Coachella that she did last year, 94 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 5: and because I'm on the East Coast, that shit didn't 95 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 5: start to like ridiculous. 96 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: Wasn't two in the morning or some shit like that. 97 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: So I was up after night. I took a nap. 98 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 5: And when you watch it through Coachella, you got one experience. 99 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 5: But uh, and with the Coachella, you only seen the 100 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 5: first show. You didn't see the second show, and so 101 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 5: for me to watch it again with different camera angles 102 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 5: and things like that, it just gave it a whole 103 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 5: different experience. 104 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have a lot to say, but I 105 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: just don't want to step on your toes and I 106 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 2: don't want to go ahead. 107 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: Oh, hold on my mic, something's going on my mic. Okay, 108 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: I fixed it. I have a lot to say, but 109 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: I want staf. 110 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: On your toes with it, and I want you to 111 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: be able to get all your things out as a 112 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: black woman. 113 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: You know, I'll stop you and chime in. 114 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So of course, the first thing that 115 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: stuck out to me is the same thing that always 116 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: stuck out sticks out whenever she does just about anything. 117 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 3: Is this woman is a marketing genius. 118 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 6: She is. 119 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: I don't think people really understand how evig it is 120 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: that she went to Coachella, and she could have and 121 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: I think in an alternate universe where this happened on 122 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: Earth to whatever, they're still just as happy as us. 123 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: But she could have just went there and gave us 124 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: like her Formation World Tour. 125 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: Performance and being just fine. 126 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: No one would have been mad, no one would have 127 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: felt short changed, no one would have felt they owed anything. 128 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: They were say yeah, okay, like as Beyonce, She's been 129 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: doing an elaborate show, she's been touring, she's just coming 130 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: off for pregnancy. 131 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: Cool. I'm just glad she came the coach Olla, you know. 132 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: But she didn't do that, did she. 133 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: She is the first black woman to ever headline it, 134 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: and none of us knew about all this extra shit. 135 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: We knew she was going to perform. I don't know 136 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: what the fucking nbas are. 137 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. If it's wizardry, I don't Oh. 138 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're around her, you can't say nothing. 139 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the same sorcerer that puts 140 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: the spell of levitation on her hair during the epo 141 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: during the shows come out. I don't know who is, Like, 142 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: are they selling these things in blood? We didn't know 143 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: there's not just Netflix special, right, we didn't know that. 144 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: We didn't know that there was an album, Like, we 145 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: didn't even know any of this shit. And so you 146 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: get the documentary and you get the album and supposedly 147 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: it's a three like a three thing deal with Beyonce 148 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: for Netflix for sixty million dollars because she. 149 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 5: Was gonna do HBO and Netflix was like, oops, we 150 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 5: gotta excuse me. 151 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: She made Netflix work for her. I'm not a Netflix. 152 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: She made Coachella work for her in a way that 153 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: I just don't think people understand, Like you gotta think 154 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 2: about this. Dozens of people, if not more at this point, 155 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: maybe it's hundreds. I don't know about that much about Coachella. 156 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: But all these people have grace to stage before her, 157 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: headliners have headlined before her. Nobody made it work for 158 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,119 Speaker 2: them like this. I don't even know what the deal 159 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: is with Coachella and what other stars negotiated as not 160 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: money wise, but as far as having the right to 161 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: take your show and then monetize it for yourself other places, 162 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: Like I'm sure at most festivals like Coachella, they would 163 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: be like, well that performance happened here, we own that, 164 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But whatever she signed, she's like, no, 165 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: then I'm gonna sell this shit for me, and then 166 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a documentary for me, and then I'm 167 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: gonna put it out for me and get paid for that. 168 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 5: Shit, right, And it's actually still a big ass promotion 169 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 5: for you. 170 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: Right. 171 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: So that's the first thing I would notice is just 172 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: that she went to Coachella, was bigger than Coachella and 173 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: made Coachella do the work for her, like you know, 174 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: every and And I think what's funny is her performance 175 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: initially was so memorable. As I was watching the special, 176 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I know it's song coming next. I 177 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: know when she said, ain't that Ain't that about a bitch? 178 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: Like it's just you know, like you just notice certain shit, 179 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: like at least from the one performance you saw on YouTube. 180 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: The other thing Coachella, she she made it so that, hey, look, 181 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: one weekend, everybody gets to see. 182 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: My performance free, right. But she did two performances and some. 183 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: People start the second with something did and I heard 184 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: it was on YouTube if you saw it live maybe 185 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: whatever I heard Also it wasn't on the area, but 186 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: people found a way. Whatever that was the two different 187 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: performances which other people have done outcast did it right? 188 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: We woke up late in the early in the morning. 189 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: No, she thought of a way to seamlessly edit those 190 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: two performances together to give you a dynamic like it 191 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: felt like a magic show for the like the editing 192 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 2: has to be up for some sort of award. 193 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, And you know what. 194 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 4: I was watching it and I was like, she edited 195 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: this shit better than. 196 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 5: Some fucking movies, Like we watched movies, and I'm it 197 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 5: was like, I've never seen it just that flawlessly. Because 198 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 5: at first I was like, Okay, does she have. 199 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 4: A ninjitsu for color? 200 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 5: Because it was like pink yellow, pink yellow, pink yellow, 201 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 5: and the way it was changing. 202 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 4: The movements were actually still flowing. 203 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 5: So I thought at first, Okay, I know she did 204 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 5: two shows, but am I losing it? 205 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 4: Oh, she's going back and forth between these shows. 206 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: Right, and I can see there's gonna be one of 207 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: those segments. But I didn't think I had a lot 208 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: to say. But I have a lot to say oh. 209 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, no, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, like I said, 210 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 5: and I will jump in kind of between it. But 211 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 5: one thing I also want to say about you talking 212 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 5: about how she changed Coachella. 213 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,119 Speaker 4: She brought her own background. 214 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 5: She was like, we're gonna use this this staate like 215 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 5: I this right here, We're gonna use this, and then 216 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 5: not only that, Coachella camp it and now it's like 217 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 5: a monument and people can go take pictures of it with. 218 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 4: It this year. 219 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: Are you talking about the Bleachers? Yes, okay, yeah, I 220 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: don't know who the bleachers. I don't know if it 221 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: was made by the sad person that made Thor's acts 222 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: in fucking in fucking Infinity War, because them bleacher was 223 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: the strongest fuck And I went to a HBCU like 224 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: our bleachers, give a bit. Them bleachers was out there working. Okay, 225 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: no giving. But what I was gonna say is it 226 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: was obviously an ordeal. Like she even said she won't 227 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: be doing this again. It's coming off for the birth 228 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: of her twins. Obviously, being a mother to Blue, being 229 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: a wife, being a pop star, toward our this business, moguo, 230 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: all this shit, she's like, I think she even said 231 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: in the documentary. I'm not doing this again, Like this 232 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: is the hardest. I re pushed myself, this is the hardest, Like, 233 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do this twice. So this is the 234 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: thing where we weren't expecting her to do this, But 235 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: she practiced apparently for almost a year to get not 236 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 2: just in. 237 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: Shape, but to get to show perfect yes. Yes. 238 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 5: And also she was actually preparing for Courchilla while she 239 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 5: was actually touring for her other She was actually touring 240 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 5: and doing this at the same time. 241 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: Right, keep in mind, she don't have I think I 242 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: can't stress enough what I said in Again, she didn't 243 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: have to do any of this shit. She could have 244 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: just done her formation tour performance there and everyone would 245 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: be fine, No one would be mad. 246 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: Everybody like that was fucking great. It's Beyonce. 247 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: She just decided I'm going to give this shit the 248 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: effort that it of, just like the concert of her lifetime. 249 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: And so in addition to you know, just the fact 250 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: that you know it's the plan and the meticulousness of 251 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 2: organizing two hundred people on stage at the same. 252 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: Time, I didn't realize that many people. 253 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: Right. 254 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: Can we talk about the HBCU aesthetic though, because I 255 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: feel like what always gets we're. 256 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: Both HBCU grads. 257 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: Yes, what always gets lost and it's fucking like p 258 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: w I HBCU shit that goes on online. What always 259 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: gets lost in all this stuff because everyone's trying to 260 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 2: be pejorative to each other, is that there is something 261 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: uniquely Black American about the HBCU culture. Agreed about the 262 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Black Greek fraternities, but still it's something uniquely American about 263 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: that here. This is not too shit on anyone else's experiences, 264 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: but it is a black iconic experience that is originated here. 265 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: As far as like the things that that we do, 266 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: the education that we have, you know, HBCU's obviously our 267 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: testament to resistance. There obviously a testament to education that 268 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: storied history there. There's all kinds of you know, it 269 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: was like a subversive way to educate black folks, and 270 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: so we have created our own ways, our own lanes, 271 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: our own like culture there. And for her, a person 272 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: that didn't go to college, but I remember when she 273 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: toured and came to Fabuel State when she was a 274 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: Destiny child. 275 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: So it's not so she's always. 276 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: Looked up to HBCU's Her father graduated from one. So 277 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: to see somebody that is the biggest pop star in 278 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: the world bar Nune and a black woman from Houston 279 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: be so like adamantly like black, black American, like so 280 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: adamantly like I am black, I am from America, I 281 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: am from Houston, Texas, I am from the South, like 282 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: she said the end of my country, asking do it 283 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: that anybody can come on that is so powerful because 284 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: we have been taught and just the general consensus has 285 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: always been, you get to be as big as someone 286 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: like Beyonce. You don't get big by being specific to blackness. 287 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: You can be big and black, you can be the 288 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: biggest act and be a black person. But what you 289 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: can't be is the biggest act that is for black 290 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: people and even more specifically for her, for black women 291 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: like you. That's just not allowed. You're not supposed to 292 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: be able to do that. You're supposed to be like, 293 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: let me shrink myself, let me say white people are great, 294 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: let me say black people are great. 295 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: Let me say you. 296 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: Know, hey, I don't want hurt anybody's feelings. It's feminism. 297 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: It's just all women. And for her to be somebody 298 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: that's like, no, it's I said, black that's amazing. Another 299 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: thing I fucking loved about this thing we get to 300 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: hear her in her own words. 301 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: Correct. 302 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: She doesn't do a lot of media, she doesn't do 303 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: a lot of interviews, so people often pejoratively and I 304 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: think Loki offensively attribute her creativity and her genius to 305 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: other people around her. Yes, No, one likes to just 306 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: say this is her concept, she came up with this, 307 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: she coordinated this, she made this happen. It's always got 308 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: to be someone else in the wings. When she was younger, 309 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: it was her father. Everybody wanted to give her father 310 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: all the all the. 311 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: Props for the creative genius. Blah blah blah. 312 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: People started giving it to jay Z, people were giving 313 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: it to salons. These aren't this isn't offensive to any 314 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: of them, Like, this isn't saying they're not creative. But 315 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: why are we giving Beyonce these things to other people 316 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: all the time? 317 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: Right? 318 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: It's always got to be something about the fact that 319 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: she just can't come up with this herself, you know her, 320 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: even when she becomes more older and outspoken about her 321 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: politics and her music and stuff, it's somehow just oh no, 322 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: that's just marketing or it's not real. She just widening away. Well, 323 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: let me tell you something. I don't know if you 324 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: guys have noticed in this country, but the pro black 325 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: shit is not as cool as if was, just even 326 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: when Obama was here. Some of your fave activists and 327 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: shit is not out in these streets like they was 328 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: because I ain't nobody. 329 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: Trying to get killed over this bullshit. 330 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: They understand the environment that we're in. Everybody seeing the 331 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: referendum that was the election. And I'm not saying referendum 332 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 2: in that this motherfucker destroyed Hillary. Really no, I'm just 333 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: saying the fact that racist people have been in Bolden, 334 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: hate crimes have been in Boulden. Hate is no longer 335 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: a thing that people are doing quietly indoors. 336 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: This is a thing that is loud and proud and out. 337 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: And to see somebody like Beyonce though, yeah, this is 338 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: not a marketing thing. I wasn't saying I was black 339 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: because it's cool. I wasn't saying I'm a feminist because 340 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: oh it's the way. It's because I am one. And 341 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: to see her say it in her own words, to 342 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: see her use quotes from you know, Maya Angelo, from 343 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: Tony Morrison, like, these are the things. These are creative 344 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: choices she made to see her in those meetings, coordinated 345 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 2: and stuff like these are the things that I think 346 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: we don't often see. And I think it's also why 347 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: she fucking records all these moments of her life and 348 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: her work so that she can tell you this shit herself. 349 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: Because anytime you let somebody else do it, they're telling 350 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: your story. 351 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: And when you let. 352 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: Somebody else tell your story, man, it's just we've seen 353 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: what can happen. Yes, And to see her like struggling, 354 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: like talking about her pregnancy and the high blood pressure, 355 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: and then she named two things I had never even 356 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: heard of that. 357 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, oh no, Beyonce. 358 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 5: God that yeah, because when you're pregnant there are some 359 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 5: kind of diseases and infections and stuff that kind of 360 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 5: only happen doing pregnancy mm hmm. 361 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: So to see her bring that up because it humanizes her, 362 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: Like I hear people talk about her and this is 363 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: this thing white people are doing now, and who knows 364 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: what they'll say after homecoming, but it's this thing where 365 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: they're doing the like. 366 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 3: How do we take shots at Beyonce? 367 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: Like it was cool for white people to like her, 368 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: and it was like, I'm woke, I'm cool. I still 369 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: like Beyonce even though she did the self titled album, 370 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: even though she did Lemonade and she's doing Formation. Hey guys, 371 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 2: I'm a cool, woke, liberal white person. I still fuck 372 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: with her. But I had noticed that shit was starting 373 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: to slide. You know, I listen to podcasts and shit, 374 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: they started to be on some like and kind of fuck. 375 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: Her though, right? And which is they were? Which is 376 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: them being honest? They were already feeling that way, but 377 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: it was not. 378 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: It wasn't cool during like the Earth the come up 379 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: to Trump to be on some like what. 380 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 3: Kind of fucked this black woman? Shit? Right? 381 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: So they kind of was sliding back into that, and 382 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: then Homecoming comes out. 383 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting to see what the. 384 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: Reaction is to it because it's such a big reminder 385 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: of I'm a black woman. I'm telling my own story, 386 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: and this is why I tell my own story because 387 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: I can't trust you to tell it. 388 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: I can't crush you to tell people what I think. 389 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: I can't trust your interviews to be asking the right questions. 390 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: Let me just fucking tell you how I feel about 391 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: being black, How I feel about HBCUs, how I feel 392 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: about being a black woman and everything I do being 393 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: for black women, How I feel about my being a mother, 394 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: how I feel about being a wife, Like I appreciate 395 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: that she she's able to do that and then turn 396 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: it into her. 397 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 5: Money, correct, because it's one of those things where not 398 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 5: trying to be funny when Beyonce kept a blank slate, 399 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 5: but I mean she was just I'm here to perform 400 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 5: and I'm not gonna say her. 401 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 4: Her music was racially not racial. 402 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: It was just come on everybody. Yeah, it was well, 403 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: it was women, right, it was single ladies. You know, 404 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: it was uh, you know, it was it was it 405 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: was like always black. 406 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: That wasn't never it was always black. 407 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: But it was also kind of like the traditional like 408 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: I'm black, but I'm making music that if you're white, 409 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: there's no reason to feel uncomfortable, you know. And then 410 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: there's this Houston part of her that just keeps getting 411 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 2: bigger and bigger, and now she's cussing and now she's rapping. 412 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 5: Right, because it was a period of time where you 413 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 5: never heard Beyonce Cuz right now she's talking about she 414 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 5: likes her Negro nos, not just you know what I mean, 415 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 5: like it's becoming a certain type like aesthetic that's dripping 416 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 5: off of it. 417 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: And then the HBCU like. 418 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: That is the biggest love because keep in mind, just 419 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: like the hashtag them from, it's not kicking nobody out right. 420 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 3: White people can go to HBCUs. 421 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 4: Yes they can. They get a minority scholarship when they go. 422 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: If you think you're above that or you think that 423 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: somehow it's a lesser institution, so that's why you don't go, right, 424 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 2: then that's kind of on you because white people won't 425 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 2: even apply or know anything about a HBCU and be like, well, 426 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: I mean you go to school without white people. That's 427 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: not true. Plenty of white people was in my classes. 428 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: Come on, now, y'all just weren't the majority. Want I 429 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: guess now you know how it feels. I don't know, 430 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: but the point being, you had this experience that is 431 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: such a black experience, like and other artists have tried 432 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: to do it, but I think they've just done it 433 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: with different stuff like church m H. Now Kendrick does 434 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: it with Africa, and many artists have done it with Africa, 435 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: many black people. Now I'm not knocking that, I mean 436 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: that I need that to be explicitly clear. I'm not 437 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: knocking people that do it when they're from the Islands, right, 438 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: but that's not Black America. 439 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 3: Right, This, like HBC US is Black America. 440 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: It's a singular type of institution that can't exist another place, 441 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: right because it's it is created in the outcome of 442 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: like plus versus ferguson, Like, it's not, it's not It 443 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: can't be created in England. It can't be created in 444 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 2: a country that that had slavery, but it's mostly black, Like, 445 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: it had to be America that made this, and so 446 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 2: this is an homage to America in a way that 447 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: other artists have not done yet. You know, this is 448 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: gonna say they had no elements of it, but she completed. 449 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: She didn't like mock it as Kanye did it in 450 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: college dropout right like she like she leaned into it 451 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: and said this is a source of pride. You know, 452 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: to see her talk about how important HBC used to 453 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: institutions are at the end to put that quote in 454 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: there like it was such it was for us, which 455 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: is one of the reasons I don't really get mad 456 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 2: when white people don't know like with oh she's this, she's. 457 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 3: That fuck you, it's for us anyway. We weren't. 458 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: We weren't waiting on you to approve, all right, I 459 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: know it's a surprise. Yeah, I know it's a big 460 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: surprise to you. We were not sitting around, like I 461 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: hope they approve of its Beyonce thing that that was 462 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: written specifically for black women. 463 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: I hope you were. You come around to this blackness, 464 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: like we're good. 465 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, we were doing this before y'all even paid any attention. 466 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 3: Netflix, Netflix paid you before you see the ship. 467 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: So she got the money, right, and we're gonna watch 468 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: it fifty seven times each, probably all from the same account. 469 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 3: But that's fine, that's fine. Nobody can stop it. 470 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: But yeah, she so she killed that shit and I 471 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 2: was so like blown away by that, and then you 472 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: get the performance. This nigga held them mic the entire time. 473 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: She never even went with the Jennet Jackson like shout 474 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: out the fire starter. I think they called it like 475 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: the dry through headset at a Burger King had said. 476 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: Like yes, she didn't even use that joint. 477 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: She just straight up like held that mic for two hours, 478 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: Like what the fuck? And when you look at all 479 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: the dancing and acrobatic ass shit and all the coordination 480 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: and she's like in and out outfit chained boom right 481 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: back in your face and just mic again like ballad 482 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: boom negro spiritual boom boom. 483 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 5: She was like an athlete, and I think sometimes people 484 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 5: underestimate not like, well, she is an athlete actually when 485 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 5: you and. 486 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 4: What I said, like an athlete. 487 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 5: The reason why I was saying like athletes because you 488 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 5: have she keeps her body in good tiptop shape right, 489 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 5: and to be able to do the things she does 490 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 5: moving squat and bending, pumping the bleachers, dipping, shaking the 491 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 5: ass and all that stuff and still singing and don't 492 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 5: and you don't hear no breathiness. 493 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: You didn't hear no in her voice. 494 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 2: Well, she would have been like entitled to correct if 495 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: she would say y'all I need a minute, we would 496 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: have understood. But she's just straight up flawless. 497 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 7: At first, I was like, did she even take a 498 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 7: water pike? 499 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: Right? I think, what did she say? 500 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: She weighed two hundred and eighteen pounds or something like 501 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: that was the twins, like two hundred eighteen pounds And 502 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: then she started this and I love I love it 503 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: behind the scenes where you see like her starting and 504 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: it's awkward, and she talks about people don't like rehearsing 505 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: because you're gonna look bad, you're. 506 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: Gonna fuck up, you're gonna you know, and she's showing us. 507 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure like the fuck ups that she's comfortable with 508 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: us seeing. 509 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: It's not like a twenty four to seven cam of 510 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: her just fucking up. 511 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: But like, you know, like the dedication because you see 512 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: her body look different than Beyonce's body correct, like, and 513 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: not that she wasn't still fine as hell, come on, 514 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: I mean, but still you see her body being and 515 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, she had eight months to go from 516 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: that back to Beyonce shape, tip top shape, you know. 517 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: And they're talking about that diet. It was like no sugar, 518 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: no carves, no meat, no fish, no something else. 519 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: And I tried to die, y'all. I did Thursday. 520 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: I watched I saw her about the diet in the 521 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 2: article on Thursday, and I said, you know what, I'm 522 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: gonna do this die And then I had a coffee 523 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: and I realized as I sipped on my coffee, I 524 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: failed to die. I was like, oh damn, oh that 525 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: was quick. Grand open the grand closing. That's all I'm saying. 526 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 4: But and I felt that I'm hungry. 527 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: I was like, yes, honey, yeah, And so that was 528 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 2: It was just dope to see her like accomplish all 529 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: this stuff. The blackness of the people that were working 530 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 2: with her, the band, the dancers, the choreographers, the I mean, 531 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: even the guitarist for Jack White's part was a black woman. 532 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: Like the intentionality of her blackness is so like meticulous, 533 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: Like the dedication to that part is the part that 534 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: always blows me away because I keep thinking my whole 535 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: life how the greatest pop performers that were black always 536 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: felt like they couldn't be too black, you know what 537 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: I mean. And this is not shade to them. I 538 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 2: get why they felt that way. It was conventional wisdom, 539 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: don't be too black. 540 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 5: You know. 541 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: People love Whitney Houston. I remember Whitney Houston, and. 542 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: I remember being shocked she fucked with Bobby Brown because 543 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: my whole life, Whitty useday had existed in a place 544 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 2: where I was like, she is quote unquote transcendent race, 545 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: as they like to do, and here she is, you know, 546 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 2: like Beyonce is not just talking about blackness in her music, 547 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: but in this creative outlet that is this this homecoming documentary. 548 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: She's like black black and the black black and your 549 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: black ass face black boom. You know what I mean? 550 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: Michael Jackson. You know people talk about like one song 551 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 2: black or white. He had one song and we lay 552 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: in his career and during his pedophile scandals and we 553 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: were like, oh yeah, black and white. He's a black man. See, 554 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: guys like that took a while. This is not to 555 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: say we ever question is he a black person. It's 556 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: just the fact that conventional wisdom say, you just don't 557 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: do that in mixed company. 558 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: Why would you. 559 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: Ever limit quote unquote your career by being like, I'm black? 560 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: Now what these white folks gonna think? Right? That was 561 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 3: the whole thing. 562 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: And to see them be like nah, To see Beyonce 563 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: be like, nah, I'm black. 564 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: I'm black as fuck. 565 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 2: Y'all still coming to my concert, y'all still gonna be 566 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: bumping my music. 567 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 3: Y'all gonna be mad, But I ain't doing nothing to 568 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 3: hurt you. I'm just black. 569 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: Like it's now she's out there saying anything like fuck 570 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: white people or some shit like she's just black. She's 571 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: just leaning into and celebrating being a black woman on 572 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: this earth from America, and uh yeah, it was. It 573 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: was amazing to see that, cause it was just I 574 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: don't know, I just couldn't like she's she's always ahead 575 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: of everyone because nobody else has done this. Now, I 576 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: imagine people will start trying to do shit like this, 577 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, but let's be honest. Out of 578 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: work we just saw her put into it. Ain't nobody 579 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: gonna do that. No, no, but maybe they'll do something 580 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: like oh Coachella Live of my album and documentary. 581 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: It just won't be this shit. 582 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: And you to get to the place that she is. 583 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 5: All jokes that you almost you got to be a workaholic, 584 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 5: because she actually. 585 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 4: Was like I gotta go home to my kids. 586 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 5: And she was like, I'm used to rehearsing like fifteen 587 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 5: hour days, but now I have to go home to 588 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 5: my children. 589 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 4: Fifteen hour rehearsals. 590 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: Y'all. 591 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 5: It's twenty four hours of a day, right, fifteen hour rehearsals. 592 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 4: You know, I'm for me personally. 593 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 5: I really appreciate her filming the meetings, and I know 594 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 5: everybody laughed when jay Z just kind of spoke and 595 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 5: was like, okay, yea, I heard my wife basically. 596 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: I think that was on that anniversary too. 597 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 5: Right, and they was like happy anniversary. I was like yeah, 598 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 5: like like like yeah, she like she is actually putting 599 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 5: it in. And I like the fact that she was 600 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 5: a woman, a black woman in charge and you have 601 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 5: to listen to her, like like, you don't have another option. 602 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 4: You have to listen to her. 603 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 5: And she was given direction and she told you what 604 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 5: she wanted, what she didn't want, what she wanted you 605 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 5: to improve on, to let her know what she had 606 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 5: to do because she was tied all these fuck ass meetings, 607 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 5: like like, let's shift this up so I can be 608 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 5: at home doing other shit. 609 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: You know. 610 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 5: I she did it nicer than that, but I felt 611 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 5: that in my spirit, and it was one of those 612 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 5: things for me. I'm like, she's a reflection of that 613 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 5: you could be black and be a boss and. 614 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 4: People have to listen to you. 615 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 5: You know, you can be in control, you can do 616 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 5: these things and be a black woman. And I really 617 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 5: appreciate the black woman thing because when it comes to 618 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 5: black men, you quote unquote get respect and places in 619 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 5: the areas where black men didn't. Because if it was 620 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 5: a black man that did this exact same documentary, A 621 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 5: lot of people that will be shitting on Beyonce would 622 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 5: be nothing but praises and clapping and clapping and rah rah. 623 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: Why because it was a man. 624 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 5: So when you have a woman that's like, we're gonna 625 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 5: do it like this, We're gonna do it like this, 626 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 5: I want to have a certain experience for the people 627 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 5: because we're feming this. Put microphones wherever you got to 628 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 5: put microphones. This is what I want and I'm gonna 629 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 5: demand perfection. 630 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 4: And I just really appreciate you getting a glimpse into 631 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 4: how her mind ticks. 632 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then let's talk about the music, because the 633 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: scene was transitions and flow was so fucking good and 634 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: it was such a celebration of like black shit. 635 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: What they're just mixing like hits that black people fuck 636 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 3: with into her music. 637 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: M h. I think my favorite joint was what she 638 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: did the Diva version of that had everybody mad in it. 639 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, like the fucking horns. 640 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: On that, Like she was good right there, We like 641 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: she couldn't stop right there, she didn't even go any further. 642 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, what a dope version. When they flipped 643 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: to everybody. 644 00:32:32,800 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 6: Made I took money everybody's mad, too much money, everybody Matt. 645 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: Save old Listen when that shit came in, it turned. 646 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 3: It's like everything was turned into a party. It's like 647 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: so much. 648 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 4: It's so much energy, so. 649 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 2: Much crump energy, so much like Houston, so much like 650 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 2: down South, so much New Orleans, like so much of 651 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: the just a black halftime performance from the bands. 652 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 5: Like come on, y'all know how we do football, basketball, volleyball, swimming. 653 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 4: We don't give a damn. The band gonna be there 654 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: and we're gonna be partying. 655 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't remember the end of any fairbel 656 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: State football game because I don't think I'll ever stayed 657 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: for one. 658 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 4: Nope. 659 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: But I have seen so many halftime shows, like I 660 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: have seen so much Earth Wind and Fire performs. 661 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 5: Come on, come on, oh, welcome to Fat Bell, North Carolina. 662 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 4: Your munching Bronkers. 663 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, nigga, Like, I have seen enough. I've heard enough 664 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: ir Winn and Fire. I've eaten enough fish filet sandwiches. 665 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 4: Come on, white bread mustard. 666 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 2: Okay, like I've done that enough long beans to be like, okay, 667 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: now for a napp Okay, this was this was cool. 668 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: I hope the boys win. 669 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, you been not be picking because all the fish 670 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 5: is gonna be fried, all the chicken is gonna be fried. 671 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 4: If you, if you special little on a Beigan died this, 672 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 4: this ain't for you. 673 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 3: Ain't no being an option. 674 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 4: The niggas gonna be like, no, what the fuck? 675 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: No, yeah, you know, ain't no gluten free options. 676 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 3: Okay, no gluten free. 677 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 4: Everything is fatter than fat, fat fat. 678 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 2: But yeah, to be able to see like that kind 679 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: of get the reverence that it has within the culture, 680 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: and honestly, man like Beyonce is such a game changer. 681 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 2: I haven't seen nobody shitting on HBCU since this ship dropped, 682 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: and y'all know how contrarian that is. 683 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 3: Twitter a lot of shit on HBCUs like. 684 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: It's gotta be like, I'm not like those Negroes type 685 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 2: of like like energy, like people have been so proud 686 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 2: of like the establishment, whether they went or not. I've 687 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 2: seen people talk about how like, yo, I'm make sure 688 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: my kids know they can go to HBCU, And that's 689 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 2: that influence that people have with that platform, Like Beyonce 690 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: is such a big deal that people could feel that 691 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: pride in it, because I think too often we get 692 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: bogged down to all the other shit, right right, you know, 693 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 2: I mean, y'all remember that episode I talked about them 694 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: going to talk to Trump, and I'm still emotional about that. 695 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 3: Shit, like. 696 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: Just but I knew they had to do it, right, 697 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 2: because that's how fucked up it is. I hope people 698 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: like give to HBCUs. I know she did, but I 699 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: hope other people do as well. I hope they're aspired 700 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: to understand that these institutions they will go away, especially 701 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: under Trump, if we do nothing like it was already 702 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: kind of I mean, you guys, I know y'all. 703 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 3: Heard the article. 704 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: Seeing the article about the white people that are shitting, 705 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 2: letting the dogs shit on the yard of. 706 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 3: The campus of Howard. 707 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: They interview one of the white dudes, and he was 708 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: on basically like, if you don't like it, move out 709 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 2: the city, bitch. 710 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 4: This university was here wabbing for you. You wouldn't do 711 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 4: it at Harvard. 712 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: Right, So you know, even if you would, man, that's 713 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: the white people shit. That's not don't do that shit, 714 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 2: not on our stuff. Take your dogs somewhere else. But 715 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: that's the whole point, is like that that attitude towards 716 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: our shit exists, and if we embrace that attitude too, 717 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 2: it'll be gone. Man, it could be gone, just like 718 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 2: that Bessie Devoce Donald Trump. They're not trying to give 719 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: them people the enough money to run the university, you know. 720 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 2: So I hope it encourages people to if you didn't 721 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,479 Speaker 2: go to an HBCU, google HBCU near me, find one, 722 00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 2: throw them a couple of dollars. 723 00:36:59,840 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 4: Man. 724 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about you gotta like go in there 725 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: and write them a million dollar check. But I mean, 726 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: you know, do a little something for you for your folks, 727 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: because it's kids that's going there right now. It's kids 728 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 2: that don't get a chance that go there, you know, 729 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 2: that wouldn't have graduated in a white university because you 730 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 2: don't have the support system from white universities. Many times, 731 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: the social cost of being black in a white space. 732 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: Many black people who have gone to p WS will 733 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: tell you about it, you know, which is why I 734 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: never understood the battle between p WIS and HBCUs, because 735 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: it's like, man, we struggling wherever we go, ever we go, 736 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 2: all people all of HBCU is doing. It's trying to 737 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,479 Speaker 2: reduce the social struggle just a little bit you're still 738 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: gonna be an individual. 739 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: They're still like good and bad. At the HBCU, there's still. 740 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: Other social struggles you'll be taking on, but you know, 741 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: first time away from home. 742 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 3: Some institutes are more religious than others. 743 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff, you know, the money struggles 744 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 2: that universities having stuff. 745 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 3: So like this is not to knock and. 746 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: Say like HBCU is a perfect no, It's just to say, 747 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 2: like they deserve a place. There's so many black intellectuals 748 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: that people respect that came right out of those fucking. 749 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 3: Schools, right right out of those schools, and then people 750 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 3: turn around and shit on them. 751 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, who would you Where would we be? 752 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 2: You know, if we ain't have a t what would 753 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 2: we be? How many black brilliant minds came right on 754 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 2: out of that door and then you shit on that door. 755 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 3: So anyway, all that to say, man, I. 756 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: Really appreciated just everything she did because it just felt 757 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 2: like she was speaking for people. And then obviously musically 758 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 2: sonically throwing in that band behind everything, Freedom took on 759 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: the whole New Freedom sounded like a motherfucking actual like. 760 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 3: Like a freedom song, you know, like freedom for me 761 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: now is up? 762 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: There, We're all right, Like when you had to hear 763 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: them horns on Freedom and the dancing and then the 764 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 2: choir singing along with it, like Kendrick's not even there, 765 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: and it's just like sonically elevated to such an another 766 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: level than it even sounded to me on the album 767 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 2: where I'm like, yeah, Freedom now is like the song 768 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 2: where I'm like, put this in your trailer for your 769 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 2: black movies, now you know what I mean, Like, let's 770 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: just go ahead and start cut chopping chopping up them 771 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 2: trailers and throwing Freedom in the hook at the end 772 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: where you get to the conclusion of the whatever the 773 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: conflict is. And now I'll be going to see your movie. Okay, 774 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what it's about. Let's just show us 775 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 2: put Freedom underneath it and said I got five on it. 776 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to see it too, two times, three times, 777 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 2: like it's that fucking and dope. And I just respect 778 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 2: her journey so much because to see her blossom fully 779 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 2: into her avert pro black self. 780 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 3: That has been I've appreciated. 781 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 2: That so much, Like I'm not a person that was 782 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 2: in the high before like when b DA was out 783 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 2: and Destiny shouting and stuff. It was always like, Oh, 784 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 2: that's cool, and I understood and respect it, like, oh, 785 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 2: that's black girls music, that's black women's music. 786 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 3: My wife loves that music. 787 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 2: Well not really for me, that's dope, you know what 788 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 2: I mean, because I'm not I'm not a person that's pejority, 789 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: like it's black women's music. 790 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,240 Speaker 3: Really, y'all need y'all like, nah, it's dope, man. 791 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 4: Come on, And then that thing is we kind of 792 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 4: out about. People kill me with that. 793 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 5: A lot of times, just let women be happy, and 794 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 5: I think sometimes that's a very hard concept for men 795 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 5: to understand. That times, if your wife loves some shit, 796 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 5: let her love the fuck out of it and give 797 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 5: it to her and let her enjoy it, because you 798 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 5: know what. 799 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 4: When she happy, you get the fuck what about that? 800 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 4: Don't dudes understand? 801 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: And not even just sex, but just like, why would 802 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 2: you want somebody not to be happy? 803 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 3: Not even just real wife or your girl. 804 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 2: But I see dudes do that shit on Facebook, Twitter, 805 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 2: social media. At the time, It's like, how can I 806 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 2: tease these women about the thing that they're into that 807 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm not right? Just let them be happy, like they 808 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 2: got that bad bts. Now that a lot of people 809 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 2: are into and I've seen dudes go out of their 810 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 2: way to shit on it. 811 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 3: It's like, why, like. 812 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 2: What, what what do you gain by shitting on You 813 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 2: clearly don't listen to or care about this shit. You 814 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 2: clearly see people getting their whole entire motherfucking. 815 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 3: Lives to it. 816 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 2: Why would you need to be shady about it to them? 817 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 2: You need their attention that bad, You'll even take negative attention. 818 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 4: That's what it is. 819 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 5: And I think sometimes people have an unhappiness within them, 820 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 5: so they like, if I'm not happy, you're not happy. 821 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,760 Speaker 5: But it doesn't make any sense because you know, particularly 822 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 5: in the straight relationships, so a woman, it is just 823 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 5: supposed that everything is supposed to get it towards a man. 824 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 2: Well, it's just it's interesting because I'm saying, even if 825 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 2: it's not a relationship, right, like yeah, just like that 826 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 2: even just in general, like people see black women enjoining 827 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 2: some shit and they gotta find a way to shit 828 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: on it, right, It's crazy, like, you know, so you 829 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 2: might not even be dating these women. You might not 830 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 2: even be dating you might like it's just something about 831 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 2: how I find a way. And Beyonce was that for 832 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 2: a long time for a lot of dudes, I think, 833 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 2: and maybe she still lives, but people are a little 834 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 2: more quiet about it because her stepping so hard into 835 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 2: like I ain't black motherfuckers and I'm from Texas and 836 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 2: I'll be. 837 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 3: Listening to rap and I cussed like these step into that. 838 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 2: You see people totally different about how they come to 839 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: come at her now than how it used to be. 840 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 2: You know, agreed, so but yeah, man, I don't know, man, 841 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 2: I love I just love to see her do this 842 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 2: and that's what made me a fan. 843 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:39,720 Speaker 3: It wasn't. 844 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 2: It was just like the self titled album. I was like, oh, god, like, 845 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 2: and what's funny is I think a lot of people 846 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 2: are like, oh yeah, the self titled album because she 847 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: was so like it was such a sex album, which 848 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 2: I'm not knocking Beyonce of course, is beautiful, But that wasn't. 849 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 2: It was more about just like, oh, this is the 850 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: real this is you you right, like, this is you 851 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 2: without like a man being like don't do that or 852 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 2: your father being like, I don't know we should like. 853 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 2: This is just you being like no no, no, no no no. 854 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 2: I want to make this kind of music. I want 855 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 2: to do these kind of things. I'm gonna talk about 856 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 2: fucking me, me and my husband fucking in the back. 857 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 3: Of this this car. 858 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 2: You need to pull roll up the partition and you 859 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 2: don't want to see it, to which I don't know 860 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 2: why the driver will roll up the partition, but. 861 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of driver she got. Does 862 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 3: you don't want to see on her knees? Yes, yes, 863 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 3: I do. 864 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 2: Yes, speak for yourself, ma'am, but yeah, that but it's 865 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 2: that kind of thing where it's like to see her 866 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 2: be able to step so fully into that. And I 867 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 2: think it's with a lot of people, a lot of like, 868 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 2: it's not just a Beyonce thing, but I think with 869 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 2: a lot of people, that's how you find people that 870 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 2: love you, quote unquote without knowing you. But they love 871 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 2: you because you love yourself. You love like because everybody 872 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 2: wants to love themselves. Everybody's envious of being themselves, loving 873 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 2: themselves and unapologetically being themselves in front of everyone, right. 874 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 4: And I think for. 875 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 5: A lot of people, particularly Black women, just we've been 876 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 5: kind of trained to be everybody but yourself, you know, 877 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 5: be the mother, be the sister, be the friend, be 878 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 5: the wife, be the girlfriend, be all these things to 879 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 5: everybody else, but nobody a lot of times never ask 880 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 5: you what do you want to be? 881 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 4: And who are you? And I think for a lot 882 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 4: of Black women. 883 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 5: Particularly and when they as they children get older and 884 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 5: they leave the house, a lot of parents go through 885 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 5: identity crisis because particularly women, who am I? My life 886 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 5: has been wrapped around everybody else And for the first time, 887 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 5: I'm alone by myself, and I might not know who 888 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 5: I am. I poured everything into my spouse or my 889 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 5: maid or my significant other. 890 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 4: Who am I? 891 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 5: And so I think I've learned to love who I 892 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 5: am and embrace who I am. And I've particularly as 893 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 5: I've gotten older, I've just gotten more comfortable than my skin, 894 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,439 Speaker 5: and I am who I am. 895 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 4: You either like it or you don't. 896 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 3: You know. 897 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 4: I know I'm quirky. I know I could be weird. 898 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 4: I know I can be bubbly. I know I could 899 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 4: be energetic. You know I know I'm uh. 900 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 5: I know me and I know that my personality is 901 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 5: a turnoff for a lot of people. 902 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 4: But baby, you're gonna have to take this, this what 903 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 4: it is. 904 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 5: And I realized that a lot of times black it's 905 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 5: amazing that Black women being themselves is fucking revolutionary. It 906 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 5: doesn't make sense. Why is the revolutionary for you to 907 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,280 Speaker 5: love yourself? Why is it revolutionary for you to embrace yourself? 908 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 5: Why is it revolutionary for you to have demands like 909 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 5: anybody else? But for some reason, for us, it's like, 910 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, you broke out your shell. Oh my gosh. 911 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 4: You know you're you're you know you're you're you're being bold, 912 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 4: you're telling people what to do. Yes, yes, yes, yes yes. 913 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,439 Speaker 4: And I think that it's. 914 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 5: A beautiful thing when women do it and when they 915 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 5: get to the place where they love themselves. It's because 916 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 5: it's a lot of women, But I've talked to a 917 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 5: lot of black women that have very, very very low 918 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 5: self esteem. This started off when they was children, and 919 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 5: that shit is hard to course correct. It's hard to 920 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 5: course correct love in your hair, it's hard to cause 921 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 5: correct love in your skin. 922 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 4: It's hard to course correct love and your flaws. It's 923 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 4: hard to correct. 924 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 5: Those things when you've been told everything about you there's 925 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:30,720 Speaker 5: something wrong. Make yourself small, make yourself invisible, make yourself 926 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 5: not be seen and heard, you know, put everybody else 927 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 5: before you. It's hard to get to the point where 928 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 5: you put yourself first. Because people become mad at you 929 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 5: and jealous and upset and envious if you put yourself first, 930 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 5: Because when you put yourself first. 931 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 4: That mean people are gonna fall by the wayside. 932 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 5: When you put yourself first, people that were using you 933 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 5: and abusing you, and a lot of times people that 934 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,919 Speaker 5: saw a light in you would begin to be mad 935 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 5: and upset. I've come to the point where I'm like, 936 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 5: but baby, you're just gonna have to be mad. You're 937 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 5: just gonna have to be upset because if you jealous of. 938 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,720 Speaker 4: Me being me, I'm not the one with the problem. 939 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 3: You are. 940 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,479 Speaker 5: But because a lot of times black women are taught 941 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 5: not to have that confrontation because you're afraid of the 942 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 5: angry black woman syndron. You know, just any type of 943 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 5: confrontation is considered a bad thing or negative thing. Even 944 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 5: if we're not fussing or fighting or screaming or anything, 945 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 5: it's considered a negative thing. So but I've come to 946 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 5: the point where if you want to be free, conflict 947 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 5: is a part of freedom. And that's very hard for 948 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 5: people to understand that. In order for you to be free, 949 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 5: for you to be rid of really free, for you 950 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 5: to truly love yourself regardless of your flaws and your. 951 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,760 Speaker 4: Imperfections and how many children you've. 952 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 5: Had, regardless of your past and how people feel about you. 953 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 4: You know, you've got to get past that. 954 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 5: And it's very hard for people, particularly if you have 955 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 5: very timid personalities or. 956 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 4: You know, it's almost at a character to do that. 957 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 5: And that's one thing that I really did love about Beyonce, 958 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 5: and I really cannot express that enough about seeing her 959 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 5: in charge really did something and something else before we 960 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 5: move on. She said that they did a whole rehearsal 961 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 5: without music, like everybody was just own was there, you know, 962 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 5: with their instruments and fully dress, and they just did 963 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 5: so all you heard was boo And I was like, 964 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 5: I couldn't even begin to just imagine the energy in there. 965 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 5: And I think that that energy was what she wanted 966 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 5: to capture and what she wanted to put and what 967 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,720 Speaker 5: she wanted to give us. That's why she was hard 968 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 5: on people with the sound and all that type of stuff, 969 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,720 Speaker 5: because she was like, I want people to feel this love, 970 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,760 Speaker 5: this energy, this this this feeling that we have this. 971 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 4: Unity that we have here. 972 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 5: And I'm very I cant I say I'm very I'm 973 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 5: so glad that she gave give us a glimpse into 974 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 5: her world so that we could see that part of 975 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,240 Speaker 5: her life, because, like you said, she don't do interviews. 976 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 4: She's very separate. 977 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 5: So for me, it meant the world and something else, 978 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 5: and that really bought tears to my eyes. 979 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 4: It was several times where. 980 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 5: For you know, I was sitting there and I wouldn't like, 981 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 5: but I was crying because it was just like overwhelming 982 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 5: just to kind of soak everything in all at once, 983 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 5: watching this black woman be free do her thing, talking 984 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 5: about she had a blank slate and. 985 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,240 Speaker 4: She could literally do what she wanted to do. 986 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 5: And it's a privilege to be aby just do what 987 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,879 Speaker 5: you want to do. Being black, you know, people don't 988 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 5: want to hear that, but she's at a point in 989 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 5: her life where she was like, y'all gonna have to deal. 990 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 4: Most people are at a point in their life where they're. 991 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 5: Like that, and it was just really wonderful to watch 992 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 5: her kind of break those barriers and be like, if 993 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 5: my country asks and get up here and do it, 994 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 5: anybody can do it. 995 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 4: And I hope it encourages people. 996 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 5: To get out and art things and do things and 997 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 5: dream and have aspirations. 998 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 4: And things like that. And also I think for me too, 999 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:09,959 Speaker 4: it was. 1000 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 5: When they was feeling a documentary, when they was going 1001 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 5: through their rehearsals and watching people's responses to other people 1002 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,240 Speaker 5: be magical, you know, like and and it almost felt 1003 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 5: like almost like a religious experience because you know how 1004 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 5: we do. 1005 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 4: We who we hollow, we yell. 1006 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 5: We throw shoes, we we were very loud, because that's 1007 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:37,439 Speaker 5: just a part of. 1008 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 4: What we do. And it was beautiful. 1009 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 5: For her to show, like the emotions on people faces, 1010 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 5: the expressions on people faces, to just us being black 1011 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 5: in the moments where we were just allowed to be 1012 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:51,720 Speaker 5: free and black. 1013 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then of course she still had Destiny Child there. 1014 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 4: And like you said, that. 1015 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 5: Blue eying and the thing about Destiny's Child, it was 1016 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 5: flawless where you were like, y'all literally could go on 1017 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 5: to it and people would buy. 1018 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't miss a damn spot, even the. 1019 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, even like I said, they have Blue doing 1020 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 2: choreography with people for a second. 1021 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 3: It was just like a collage of that. 1022 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 2: And you know, it was funny because people say, like, oh, 1023 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm not, nobody's. 1024 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 3: In the behive. 1025 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 2: If you ask everybody, nobody's in the behive. Nobody wants 1026 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 2: to admit that I'm not a stand a h h. 1027 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 2: And the only time we attribute somebody being a stand 1028 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 2: for Beyonce is when they do something completely uncalled for 1029 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 2: and crazy, like if they dock somebody, if they harassed somebody. 1030 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it's, you know, these beehive stands. 1031 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 2: But that's not everybody. If you black, you in the 1032 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 2: beehive unless you a coon. And I know this because 1033 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 2: let somebody shit on beyond, say in front of you, 1034 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 2: and see if you just let that shit slide, most 1035 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 2: black people are gonna be like, nah, hold up, you know. 1036 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 2: And the ones that had then impetus to join in, 1037 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 2: say some coons real talk. They just love white people 1038 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 2: shit that much that they want to be down. But 1039 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 2: like that, that's one of those things that you have 1040 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 2: to step up and be like, nah, hold up. 1041 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 3: Why she gotta catch. 1042 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 2: Hell in the way that these other people don't, right, 1043 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 2: we gotta be sitting. We gotta be sensitive about Britney 1044 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 2: Spears mental health. Come on, we gotta be sensitive about 1045 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 2: like Adele and all the. 1046 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 3: Issues about her body. 1047 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 2: We gotta be sensitive to everybody, but Beyonesce funk out 1048 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 2: of my face dog were not doing this, So yeah, 1049 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 2: everybody a dog, I watch your back. White people, you 1050 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 2: out here talking shit, fuck around and get stung. You 1051 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 2: just do not know, man, because you know you see something. 1052 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,359 Speaker 2: It would be fun if the critiques around her were 1053 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 2: like more level headed, but it's always some like low 1054 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 2: key racist shitus. 1055 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 3: You know. 1056 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 2: I also loved how much she loved her post but 1057 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 2: having baby body like she was like, oh, these hip 1058 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 2: snunts spread out, gotta love little curves around this ass, like. 1059 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 3: Y'all about to get all this ass. 1060 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 4: I don't love it. 1061 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 3: She was like, she's like, oh. 1062 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with myself, y'all y'all, 1063 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 2: I can't wait to flaunt this on everybody. When Desney 1064 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 2: Shall was out there with her, she was like out 1065 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 2: there like booty shows and everybody else had on like payings, 1066 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 2: but like Tyson, she was out there like y'all gonna 1067 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 2: get this ass though all love it, like y'all seen 1068 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 2: these y'all see these lactating breasts. I don't know if 1069 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 2: y'all know heard about these things, but black as little brush, 1070 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 2: bless you with a little some something for everybody. 1071 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 3: I appreciated that. Yeah, and I did love the meaning part. 1072 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,280 Speaker 2: I think the meaning stuff was just so dope cause 1073 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 2: she wasn't being mean, but you saw how demanding she was. 1074 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,760 Speaker 3: And also it wasn't that shit that people do where 1075 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 3: I'm a diva. 1076 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 2: I can talk to you anyway I want and that's 1077 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 2: because I'm such a brilliant person and you're not. Like 1078 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 2: it was still like this communal like we're a team, 1079 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 2: we're working on this together, but I am in charge. 1080 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 2: It is mine, my name's on this shit. I'm looking 1081 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 2: at this from every angle. I need this to pop. 1082 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 3: I needed to be good here, here, here, and here. 1083 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 2: And when you see the final like product, yeah, no shit, 1084 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 2: Like she gets to get all that credit, not and 1085 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 2: she was more than magnanimous with the credits. Like she's 1086 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 2: pulling people out on stage at the end, all that stuff, 1087 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 2: tagging people on Instagram. 1088 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 3: That's cool. 1089 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 2: She deserved all that credit for being the one to 1090 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 2: put it all together because Lloyd knows that the show 1091 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 2: would have been a flop. Guess who would have took 1092 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 2: all the blame right right? 1093 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 5: And also the thing is she also let us see 1094 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 5: that she's not lazy, like she's extremely hardworking. 1095 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 3: Person, Like who needs to see that right. 1096 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 4: People underestimate how hard she works. 1097 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 5: She basically was like I had the dances on one stage, 1098 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 5: the sound people on one stage, and the band and 1099 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,720 Speaker 5: another stage. They was on three separate sets, and I 1100 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 5: went from set to set to set, practice rehearsing. Then 1101 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 5: I turn around and meet with fifty managers. Then I 1102 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 5: had to turn around and go home. Then I had 1103 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 5: to turn around and do it over again, while I'm 1104 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,760 Speaker 5: dealing with spasms and whatever else is happening in my body, 1105 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 5: you know. And that's the level of dedication that the 1106 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 5: average person could not do and would not do. 1107 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 2: And I mean keep in mind, she still kind of 1108 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 2: is the nigga that got the job at McDonald's and 1109 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,360 Speaker 2: is giving everybody like extra fries because she put the 1110 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 2: shit on Netflix, which everybody got. So now if you 1111 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 2: weren't up for the YouTube, you didn't catch one of 1112 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 2: them bootleg streams, you know, your ass can't afford to 1113 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 2: take it to coach Ella. Most of us are not 1114 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,240 Speaker 2: balling like that, or even lucky enough to be balling 1115 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 2: like that to then be like, well, then you can 1116 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 2: experience it in a way nobody else can experience it 1117 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 2: on Netflix. I'm gonna break it down, Like, that's the 1118 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 2: kind of balls shit that I really be hoping niggas 1119 00:55:59,320 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 2: can do. 1120 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 3: Well. 1121 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 2: You just don't see many black people even in a 1122 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 2: position to ever do something like this, and to see 1123 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 2: people try to have pod shots and resentment about it. 1124 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 3: Then just be mad. As she said, everybody the same anyway, 1125 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 3: all Right, Hong Kong is amazing. Everybody should see it. 1126 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 4: That album. 1127 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 5: That album goes hard because I played it, and and 1128 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,240 Speaker 5: literally if you don't, if you're not careful, you're literally 1129 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 5: just you literally just have a one person party, like 1130 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 5: because that ship. 1131 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 4: It goes from song. 1132 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 5: To song, the song, the song, the song, the song, 1133 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 5: so before you know it, yes, you're having a one 1134 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 5: person party. 1135 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's dope, good workout music, all that type of music. 1136 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,800 Speaker 2: All right, we talked about that a long time. I 1137 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 2: didn't plan a certain amount of time to talk about it, 1138 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 2: but I did want to throw out one more thing. 1139 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 2: I also watched two parts of the four part Reconstruction 1140 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 2: documentary on PBS. I can't find the first two parts 1141 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 2: on PBS what they are on YouTube, so I will 1142 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 2: be watching it there. Okay, so it was four parts, yes, Okay, 1143 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 2: Skip Gates did it. 1144 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 3: It's really good. 1145 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 2: Really education reconstruction is one of those parts of history 1146 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 2: that most of us are not taught very much about. 1147 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 2: We're kind of taught like slavery ended and then the 1148 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 2: Jim Crow South started, and they skipped over the eight 1149 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 2: or nine years where the South was essentially, you know, 1150 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 2: forced to give black people their rights and all the 1151 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 2: things that they did to circumvent giving. 1152 00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 4: Black people those rights. 1153 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 2: It's really important that you listen to, that you watch 1154 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 2: this thing, that you educate yourself because this is the 1155 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 2: shit they don't want you to know about. And a 1156 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 2: lot of the solutions that black people have to racism 1157 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 2: and oppression and the things that we get on each 1158 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 2: other for they've been tried before, yes, like in the 1159 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds. They have tried all this shit, and so 1160 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 2: you know, hopefully people can learn to back off each 1161 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 2: other a little bit. But to see the bravery highlighted 1162 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 2: of certain people like I to B. 1163 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 3: Wells, Frederick right, to see like you know, people talk 1164 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 3: about like Booker T. Washington and. 1165 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 2: Why his rhetoric was a certain way even when behind 1166 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 2: the scenes he was doing something completely different. It's really 1167 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 2: important speaking of HBCUs, I mean, like the founding of HBCUs, 1168 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 2: the education and importance and the subversiveness of HBCUs. A 1169 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 2: lot of that is because of reconstruction. To see Jim 1170 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 2: Crow Laws in the South, and not just the Jim 1171 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 2: Crow laws. 1172 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 3: Uh. Oh. 1173 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 2: By the way, you can also find all four parts 1174 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 2: on PBS dot org for free, but not just the 1175 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 2: laws down south. But like before there were Jim Crow laws. 1176 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 2: The things that started, like one of the biggest. 1177 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,439 Speaker 3: Uh, one of the. 1178 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 2: Biggest like impacts and very hurtful to this day on 1179 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:36,160 Speaker 2: our society was the demonization of black men as savage rapists. 1180 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 8: Right. 1181 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 2: Uh, so much of it historically has been used as 1182 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 2: propaganda against us. In Wilmington, North Carolina, there was honestly 1183 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 2: a insurrection that basically was a genocide of a black city, 1184 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 2: and it started with news newspapers publishing false articles accusing 1185 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 2: black men of raping white women. 1186 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 3: And it was all. 1187 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 2: Because they were jealous of the fact that there were 1188 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 2: black people that were going to be in government. So 1189 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 2: they went to the town, forced all of them to 1190 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 2: resign at gunpoint, and then started ramsacking the town and 1191 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 2: killed black people in the streets. 1192 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 3: As they fled. Right. 1193 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 2: Uh, I think I forget which river it was, but 1194 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 2: they were like, you know, the river ran red with blood, 1195 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 2: and then they took pictures afterwards smiling. 1196 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 4: It was near. I won't say it was near. 1197 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, oh, it's good Will went to North Carolina. 1198 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 2: And so they killed him and took pictures in front 1199 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 2: of the burned out town buildings and and you know, 1200 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 2: government buildings and and all that stuff because they just 1201 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 2: didn't want black people to be in power of anything. 1202 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 2: And this is this has done multiple places, multiple times. 1203 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 2: And I always think about those pictures and how smiling 1204 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 2: those white people are. And those white people are somebody's grandparents, 1205 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 2: somebody's great great gat grandparents, somebody somebody, you know, like 1206 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 2: all those people that was in my state, North Carolina. 1207 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 3: You know. 1208 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 2: So it's and I guarantee you there's there's gotta be 1209 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,439 Speaker 2: hundreds of these. This is not uh, you can name 1210 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 2: twelve probably. I don't know Black Wall Street like. 1211 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 4: It's and it happened all across the country. 1212 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 5: I don't know where people have this narrative that racism 1213 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 5: quote unquote old it happens down south even to the day, 1214 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 5: bitches white people, there is racism. 1215 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 4: Now what are we talking about? 1216 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this violence was so like, but it was like, 1217 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,440 Speaker 2: so when you see people talk about like black people 1218 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 2: just need to get our own, how can we be 1219 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 2: trying to get in with the white men, It's like, well, 1220 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 2: they kill people that try to get their own, They 1221 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 2: kill people that try to integrate, They kill people for 1222 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 2: minding their fucking business. 1223 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 3: They just killed people jealousy. 1224 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 2: At one point, they were lynching black men and saying 1225 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 2: it's because these black men were looking at white women 1226 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 2: or sleeping with white women, and they just do it 1227 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 2: old and over all the time, right, they were so 1228 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 2: upset that they no longer. 1229 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 3: Have these slaves. 1230 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 2: And now it's like, but all the black men coincidentally 1231 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 2: happened to be prominent business owners. So it's just, oh, 1232 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,720 Speaker 2: just somehow these black people in these black towns, these 1233 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 2: black men that are doing a little too well, car 1234 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 2: a little too nice, close, a little too spiffy, making 1235 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 2: a little too much money. Somehow they're all rapists and 1236 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 2: need to die. But that's not our problem. That's everyone else. 1237 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 2: That's black people's problem. You know, they fucking uh burned 1238 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 2: down out of b Wells Printing Press, had the flee Memphis, 1239 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 2: you know, like and these facts are coming at you 1240 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 2: boom boom boom boom boom boo boom, but it's contextualizing 1241 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 2: it with pictures with actual Like here's the article that says, like, 1242 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 2: you know, negroism defunct, you know, after they destroyed the 1243 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 2: black town by killing all these people, and the fact 1244 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 2: that the newspaper knew that they were complicit in getting 1245 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 2: these people killed. 1246 01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 3: You know, this is this is. 1247 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 2: When we talk about whiteness. People think it's like an 1248 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 2: individual thing. Now we talk about whiteness, is talking about whiteness. 1249 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 3: Tm M mask. 1250 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 2: It has been so dangerous and daily in this country, 1251 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 2: especially if you are black. 1252 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 3: It has affected you in some way. Its affected your 1253 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 3: ancestors in some way. 1254 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 2: It's why you'll never see me wear one of those 1255 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 2: fucking I'm not my ancestor shirts because they were killing 1256 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 2: black people and they black people were fighting back and 1257 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 2: they still killed them because there was more white people 1258 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 2: than black people and they were the aggressives in these cases. 1259 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 3: So you know, to see this. 1260 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 2: Documentary you know, on TV, like it was so dope 1261 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 2: because I do enjoy knowing these type of things, and 1262 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 2: I learned about different people I didn't know about. I 1263 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 2: forget his name, but the black man who was like 1264 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 2: a minstrel act who essentially used the subversiveness of being 1265 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 2: a minstrel act to get black actors not wearing black face, 1266 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 2: not being cone onto uh on Broadway. 1267 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 4: Made a lot of money doing that. 1268 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 3: It's called two real coons or something like that. 1269 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 2: And by the time you show up, you don't realize it, 1270 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 2: or white people don't realize it only one of them 1271 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 2: is actually wearing that coon makeup. You're actually just watching 1272 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 2: a play full of black people in this one dude. 1273 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 2: And he was like the highest black performer on Broadway 1274 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 2: ever and all this type of stuff at the time, 1275 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 2: like just you know all that stuff, man, I to 1276 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 2: b Wells, the sacrifices she made and uh and just 1277 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 2: reporting about this stuff, the danger to her life that 1278 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 2: this was. 1279 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 9: So. 1280 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope people take the time out to watch it. Yeah, 1281 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 2: I think it was Bert Williams. I think that's who 1282 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 2: it was, Steven, So I think I hope people take 1283 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 2: the time out to watch it. I actually watch I 1284 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 2: watched it once and then I've been watching it again 1285 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,000 Speaker 2: just just because it's so much stuff in there, like 1286 01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 2: it's so packed you you can't really tweet it. You 1287 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 2: just got to sit down and watch it because everything is. 1288 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 3: Like and then this shit happened. 1289 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 2: And then this happened the World's Fair where they didn't 1290 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 2: invite black people. They shoot black people in from Africa, 1291 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 2: but didn't invite any black African Americans. 1292 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 3: To the fucking World's Fair. 1293 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 2: And that's when Frederick Douglass gave like his biggest, like last. 1294 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 3: Speech that everybody remembers, like. 1295 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 2: It's just I don't know, it was just kind of 1296 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 2: really dope to see to see that, So I hope 1297 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:35,760 Speaker 2: you guys check that out. And yeah, obviously you know 1298 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 2: it's all kinds of black trauma and shit in there. 1299 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 3: So if you can't handle it, I get it. 1300 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,600 Speaker 2: But for those of y'all that can and don't want 1301 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 2: to be not informed, I mean the skip gates he's 1302 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:51,479 Speaker 2: basically giving you like this isn't about teasing your pain 1303 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 2: or trying to like make you feel bad or whatever. 1304 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 3: It's really educational. 1305 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 2: And it's also, like I said, for me, it always 1306 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 2: makes me feel less crazy, correct, Like I always feel 1307 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 2: like this is grounded in something. These feelings I feel 1308 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 2: on the soil of this country. It's coming from somewhere 1309 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 2: and it's not just you know, in my head, like 1310 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 2: there's a history to this, whether it's in my DNA 1311 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 2: or in my brain or just passed down for my 1312 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 2: people or whatever. So and then the last thing I'll 1313 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 2: say before we move on from this. It also made 1314 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 2: me think about something when people talk about respectability politics, 1315 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 2: there was a time and in some instances it still 1316 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 2: kind of is, but people call it something different. But 1317 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 2: the whole respectability politics things was revolutionary at a time, 1318 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,240 Speaker 2: and I don't think people frame it in that context. 1319 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 2: They just frame it as like a negative towards it, 1320 01:06:54,080 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 2: like just respectability politics. But these people weren't stupid. They 1321 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 2: were looking for two things. Number One, you're living in 1322 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 2: a society that says black people can't If I can't, 1323 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:15,960 Speaker 2: I mean can't anything. We're not smart, we're not sophisticated, 1324 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 2: we're not we don't have any class, we don't have 1325 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 2: we don't belong in white society, right we you know. 1326 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 2: And so a counter to that for a lot of 1327 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,120 Speaker 2: black people at the time was, you know, like Oa B. 1328 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Wells and Frederick Douglas, two motherfuckers, y'all are not as wollass, 1329 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 2: that are not as brave ass. So let's just chill 1330 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 2: with that before you start coming at folks. You had 1331 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 2: two people that they set out to photograph black people, 1332 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 2: you know, and this is like so back in the day, 1333 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 2: it's the photographs before people smile their photographs, right, Like, 1334 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 2: it's the photographs you just look real still to the 1335 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,919 Speaker 2: side and then I guess it takes five minutes before 1336 01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 2: it's done or whatever. 1337 01:07:58,880 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 3: You know. 1338 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 4: I was parted to get to get it back right. 1339 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 2: But the pejorativeness that we say respectability politics with is. 1340 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 3: One that is just la. 1341 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 2: It's a lack of context of history in which respectability 1342 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,639 Speaker 2: politics was about literally getting respect. Now, sure it's respect 1343 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 2: from racist people that are never going to give it, 1344 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 2: but at the time it was this was not something 1345 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 2: that I haven't even been tried before. 1346 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,879 Speaker 3: And it was to and it was not just to to. 1347 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 2: Gain assimilation, but to prove them wrong, to say, you 1348 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 2: say this thing, but you're not you're not being honest. 1349 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 2: We have civilized government, We do wear these suits, We 1350 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 2: know how to do business. We are not savages. When 1351 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 2: the newspaper is making up rapes of women from black men, 1352 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 2: there is a impetus to be respectable quote unquote. As 1353 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,760 Speaker 2: a revolution to the to the status quo to the 1354 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,479 Speaker 2: that's being told about you. It's not so simple as 1355 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,799 Speaker 2: just pull your pants up and you won't be killed. 1356 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 3: You know. 1357 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,639 Speaker 2: It was y'all don't wear pants. It's like these look 1358 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 2: at my finer y'all do wear pants then, and it's 1359 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 2: like we will, uh, you know, we wouldn't be so 1360 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,040 Speaker 2: hard on y'all if y'all weren't this way. 1361 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 3: I still don't know that dude. I can't remember. 1362 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 2: His last name was Montgomery, the black dude that was 1363 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 2: a Democrat at the time, this back when Democrats were 1364 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 2: the Republicans and Republicans or the Democrats, and he spoke 1365 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 2: at like the Democratic National Convention, I believe, and essentially 1366 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, so black people don't deserve rights. 1367 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,800 Speaker 2: We're not as good as y'all. We're not as sophisticated 1368 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 2: as y'all. Y'all are better than us. We too savage 1369 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 2: blah and like hurt black people's calls so badly, you know. 1370 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 2: And this is the ship they were fighting against. This 1371 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,640 Speaker 2: is ship Frederick Dougs is fighting against. This is the 1372 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 2: shit that, like I said, Oi be Wells is fighting against, 1373 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,639 Speaker 2: Like you have so many black people at the turn 1374 01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 2: of the century, you know, Marria church Terrail like, you 1375 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 2: got people that are like. 1376 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 3: To us, we're like, oh, here's this. 1377 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,760 Speaker 2: You know, many concept it'd be like a more of 1378 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 2: a light skinned person and shit sometimes because that would 1379 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,160 Speaker 2: allow them access to ship that darker black people. 1380 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 3: Couldn't even gain, you know. But using that that that that. 1381 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,519 Speaker 2: That influence and using that privilege to then help the 1382 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 2: race and risking their lives doing so. You know, many 1383 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,599 Speaker 2: of these people, if it wasn't for their ability to pass, 1384 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:32,360 Speaker 2: sometimes they wouldn't even be fucking We wouldn't know their 1385 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 2: names today. 1386 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,000 Speaker 3: They just be dead, you know. 1387 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 2: But all of this stuff, all these strategies plusy versus ferguson, 1388 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,120 Speaker 2: that's a strategy. It's not like it's always said as 1389 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,599 Speaker 2: if it's just like when we learned about it in school, 1390 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,599 Speaker 2: we always learned of it. It's like, yeah, it's just 1391 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,880 Speaker 2: this incident that happened and then it led to segregation. 1392 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 2: It's like it wasn't a coincidence, the same way Rosa 1393 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 2: parks on that bus wasn't no coincidence. So this is 1394 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 2: one of the reason I like to read or listen 1395 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,720 Speaker 2: and learn about this kind of shit, because I'm I'm 1396 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,479 Speaker 2: always learning something I didn't know before, and it's always 1397 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 2: kind of given me a different perspective because from now on, 1398 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 2: I won't be talking about respectability politics that in that 1399 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 2: kind of way. It's only a specific type that that 1400 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 2: I think it makes people feel like, yo, this is 1401 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 2: fucked up right, Like if black people weren't acting this way, 1402 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 2: everything would be fine. 1403 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,719 Speaker 3: Obviously that's fucked up right, like duh. 1404 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,880 Speaker 2: But when it's stuff like you know, black people was 1405 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 2: wearing suits like yeah, because at the time we were 1406 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 2: told it was you weren't supposed to be in that suit. 1407 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 3: That was the revolution at the time. 1408 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,519 Speaker 2: You know, that was risking your life look looking too good, 1409 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 2: having too much, you know, being too refined, wanting too much. 1410 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,680 Speaker 3: That was risking your life. They were killing people for 1411 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:52,080 Speaker 3: that shit. 1412 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 2: So that was the main thing I took away from 1413 01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 2: this documentary that that was a different perspective than I 1414 01:11:58,840 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 2: walked in with. 1415 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, the catch all that. 1416 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,639 Speaker 2: Is respectability politics on Twitter and social it's not really 1417 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 2: the catch all that people think it is. You know, 1418 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:14,280 Speaker 2: it's a little too loose of a definition, because I 1419 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 2: be goddamned if I'm gonna look I to w wells 1420 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,200 Speaker 2: in the eyes and be like, yeah, that respectability politics sists, 1421 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:25,480 Speaker 2: Like nah, nah, she was risking her life reporting on lynchings. 1422 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,920 Speaker 2: She was, she was risking she got driven out of 1423 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,360 Speaker 2: Memphis at you know, under threat of violence, like you know, 1424 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,599 Speaker 2: let alone, like all these black women that were being 1425 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 2: sexually assaulted, constricted labor, prison labor. You know, these type 1426 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,440 Speaker 2: of things are basically just new versus of slavery, sharecropping, 1427 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,679 Speaker 2: people making a mass exodus to the North to only 1428 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:55,120 Speaker 2: be faced with redlining and more racism. We have tried everything, 1429 01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 2: and I don't think we get enough credit for the 1430 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:05,920 Speaker 2: ingenuity and the pressure and just the goddamn impossibility of 1431 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 2: white supremacy that we are up against. Man, we are 1432 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 2: a little too hard on ourselves at times because we 1433 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,559 Speaker 2: didn't quote unquote make it as if the game ain't 1434 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,840 Speaker 2: rigged on all of us. 1435 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 3: You know. 1436 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 2: So it's one of the times when I hear, like, 1437 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,439 Speaker 2: when I hear stuff yeah even without the Internet. That's 1438 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,960 Speaker 2: a good point, Jim, is that that those times when 1439 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,400 Speaker 2: I hear people like kind of come at like activists 1440 01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 2: sometimes or come at people for trying something different or 1441 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,599 Speaker 2: doing it a different way. And I always kind of go. Yeah, 1442 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 2: but they trying something, they're doing something like it might 1443 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 2: not work, it might do. I mean, none of this 1444 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 2: shit has worked. I don't know if you noticed, none 1445 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 2: of us are really free. They can kill my black 1446 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 2: ass tonight. The police can just extra judicial carriage or 1447 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,600 Speaker 2: justice and just fucking kill me, and now it'll be 1448 01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 2: on the news tonight as this nigga deserve to doubt somehow, 1449 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 2: somebody just got killed in Charlotte, Like none of us 1450 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,720 Speaker 2: have gotten over that mountaintop yet, really, you know, And 1451 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 2: we made so much progress in this country. But it's 1452 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,719 Speaker 2: because of that fight, that ingenuity, the ability to try 1453 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,439 Speaker 2: other things, to never be you know, to never let 1454 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,680 Speaker 2: it be caughting off and killed, you know. And the 1455 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,720 Speaker 2: only thing that we really get left with out of 1456 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,640 Speaker 2: it is like the hope for for unity, for some 1457 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 2: copy of equality one day. So yeah, I hope everybody 1458 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 2: can be a little more gentle with each other and 1459 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,280 Speaker 2: learn some history. Man, if you don't already know this shit, 1460 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,640 Speaker 2: you know, learn learn it and then maybe you'll be 1461 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,600 Speaker 2: more gentle on people and less let me pounce on 1462 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 2: the next person that says the wrong thing or try 1463 01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,240 Speaker 2: something I wouldn't try because that that that shit is 1464 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 2: just I mean, it's been forever and it's human, but 1465 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,360 Speaker 2: it's just so kind of productive. 1466 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 3: There's nothing really to gain from it. 1467 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 2: So uh, anyway, no fucking with black people today. Matter 1468 01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 2: of fact, let's do some guests the race and get 1469 01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 2: right into that. 1470 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:07,200 Speaker 3: What's my guest race? 1471 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:07,559 Speaker 8: Is it? 1472 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:08,400 Speaker 3: Here we go. 1473 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 4: For some guest stor race. 1474 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,759 Speaker 3: That's right, it's guest the race. 1475 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 8: Time. 1476 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,799 Speaker 4: Now that it is time for some guest story race. 1477 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,800 Speaker 3: That's right, this guest the time. 1478 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,679 Speaker 2: That's right, it's time for guests the Race. The number 1479 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,479 Speaker 2: one game show going across all the podcasts. Man, we 1480 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 2: read the play news argles from all over the globe, 1481 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,639 Speaker 2: and we asked our contestants today Karen and the chat 1482 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 2: room to guess the race. And of course everyone playing 1483 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:47,559 Speaker 2: is absolutely racist. That's why we the real racist. I 1484 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,840 Speaker 2: think that's what I if we started in different podcasts 1485 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,760 Speaker 2: or new podcast I think that's what I would call it, 1486 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,480 Speaker 2: the real racist instead of the blackout tips. 1487 01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,400 Speaker 3: Uh, because we already think we're the real racist. 1488 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 4: They do. We started as fall as Decker, sir. First racism. 1489 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,200 Speaker 3: It's that's y'all, the real racist. 1490 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,240 Speaker 4: Weird one is really oppressed. What y'all complaining about? 1491 01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 3: You been looking for him? 1492 01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 5: Uh? 1493 01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,800 Speaker 2: The Easter Bunny in downtown Orlando fights had a fight 1494 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 2: and it was caught on camera, and so they caught 1495 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:28,439 Speaker 2: up with the easter bunny, yeah, and had him explain 1496 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 2: exactly why he. 1497 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 3: Went put the hands. 1498 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:36,839 Speaker 4: So he was hading more than them eggs. 1499 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,639 Speaker 3: I guess he was. He was hiding more of them eggs, 1500 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 3: that's true. Care It sounds to me like maybe he 1501 01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:54,880 Speaker 3: had a hair trigger temper. But yeah, they caught up. 1502 01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,280 Speaker 4: I guess he hippie hopped on that man. 1503 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know why it couldn't just bounce mm 1504 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:12,760 Speaker 3: hm hmm. 1505 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,639 Speaker 2: But yeah, they caught up with the guy in the suit. 1506 01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 2: His real name is Antoine McDonald and interviewed him about 1507 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,240 Speaker 2: why he did it. I think they actually had a 1508 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 2: video on here if I can get it to play. 1509 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 2: Of course, there's an ad first, so let's give that 1510 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:39,559 Speaker 2: the due time. Adam and Eve dot com co TBGWT get. 1511 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,840 Speaker 3: Your ten free items. You love free stuff? Why would 1512 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,479 Speaker 3: you not want it? Think about it. 1513 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:51,599 Speaker 9: This fight happened in downtown or Land on your sack 1514 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 9: comedy lab on. 1515 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,519 Speaker 2: Oh, so of course we have to wait for it 1516 01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,000 Speaker 2: to load behind the scenes too, apparently. I don't know 1517 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:04,280 Speaker 2: what's going on, why freezing like this, but yeah, it 1518 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 2: was a fight. They caught it on videos. 1519 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,559 Speaker 9: Off Orange Avenue. News six is Vanessa Riza spoke to 1520 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,320 Speaker 9: the guy inside the bunny outfit one of the strangest 1521 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,240 Speaker 9: pieces of video I've ever seen in my life. Vanessa, 1522 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,320 Speaker 9: did he tell you why he got involved in this? 1523 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:22,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt. 1524 01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,200 Speaker 7: He says, he and his friends they were out for 1525 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,080 Speaker 7: a Sunday Funday here in downtown Orlando yesterday. It was 1526 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 7: Easter Sunday, so why not bring out the bunny outfit. 1527 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,519 Speaker 7: He said, he and his friends were bar hopping. They 1528 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,599 Speaker 7: were going from one to the other when he actually 1529 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,440 Speaker 7: saw a man here along the street, he said. 1530 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:37,080 Speaker 4: Spit on a woman. 1531 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,080 Speaker 7: He said he wasn't going to just stand by and 1532 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 7: let that happen. 1533 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:44,320 Speaker 2: On spitting on a woman, I would have been hopping 1534 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 2: mad myself. Oh sorry, I didn't mean to do that. 1535 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:56,599 Speaker 3: Guys, this. 1536 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,280 Speaker 7: Downtown Orlando has seen a lot, but this may be 1537 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 7: a first. 1538 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,479 Speaker 10: The guy was just basically I don't know if he 1539 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,920 Speaker 10: was bullying or what. So then I see him spit 1540 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 10: on her and she starts hitting him and everything to 1541 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:14,799 Speaker 10: get some laughs. 1542 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,000 Speaker 7: Antoine McDonald and his friends took their traveling Bunny suit 1543 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,840 Speaker 7: downtown yesterday. They had just left one bar and we're 1544 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,120 Speaker 7: about to go into another when he says he saw 1545 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:24,200 Speaker 7: everything unfold. 1546 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,719 Speaker 4: He tells us he wasn't going in to continue the fight. 1547 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 4: Rather he wanted to break it up. 1548 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,040 Speaker 10: I was just going in to break it up, but 1549 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 10: he kept hitting her. So then that's when I made 1550 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 10: it my problem to you know, start you know, hitting 1551 01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 10: him as well. 1552 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 4: An Orlando police officer was able to break up the fight. 1553 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 4: No one was arrested. 1554 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,600 Speaker 7: McDonald and his friends continuing their night, but with thousands 1555 01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:46,960 Speaker 7: of people watching. 1556 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,880 Speaker 4: The video, he didn't even know it was taken. 1557 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 10: Like I said, I didn't expect it to go that far. 1558 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:53,400 Speaker 10: I was breaking up the fight. 1559 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,840 Speaker 7: And this bunny sit, you guys, is kind of like 1560 01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,760 Speaker 7: Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. Antoine McDonald, who you just 1561 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,760 Speaker 7: heard there, said that everybody was wearing it that night, 1562 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,679 Speaker 7: but it just so happened that he was in the 1563 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 7: costume when all of that went down. 1564 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:08,960 Speaker 4: He said, after all. 1565 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,080 Speaker 7: Of that, he would do it all over again, just 1566 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,600 Speaker 7: to show that disrespecting anybody is unnecessary. 1567 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,880 Speaker 4: And will not be tolerated. So we want to. 1568 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,519 Speaker 7: Learn more about Antoine McDonald. 1569 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:19,679 Speaker 4: Who is this guy. 1570 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,799 Speaker 7: We'll share with you where he's from, what he's all about, 1571 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,439 Speaker 7: coming up tonight at five o'clock, but for now, live 1572 01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,720 Speaker 7: in downtown Orlando, Vanessa, Riiza getting results. 1573 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:30,559 Speaker 3: New six Vanessa. 1574 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,760 Speaker 9: I thought the story was gonna get less weird after 1575 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,759 Speaker 9: you explained it. I was wrong. We've posted the viral 1576 01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,960 Speaker 9: video on click Orlando dot com. You can look inside. 1577 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:44,880 Speaker 2: Only Orlando, Florida. Karen guess the rights of Antoine McDonald. 1578 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,680 Speaker 4: Oh black, all right black. 1579 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:49,799 Speaker 3: Let me check the chat room. 1580 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,600 Speaker 2: Nobody was arrested, so as you guys can guess the 1581 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 2: bunny costume was white. Antoine McDonald Ronald's black cousin who 1582 01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,799 Speaker 2: wrote that freestyle rap suit all moist, Oh Florida. 1583 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,080 Speaker 3: Okay, he's he's one of them. 1584 01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:06,639 Speaker 2: I got five on it. Jordan Peel Nigga Bunny super 1585 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,800 Speaker 2: Bunny to the rescue that nigga was hopping mad, We 1586 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,599 Speaker 2: stand and ass kicking bunny who don't fuck with domestic violence. 1587 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,599 Speaker 2: Nigga with a harder gold black, black, black Avengers, black 1588 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:21,560 Speaker 2: black twan, black as hell, black Bunny King hairy situation. 1589 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,080 Speaker 2: Black As I said, black black man bar hopping with 1590 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:29,000 Speaker 2: white people and a white rabbit, super nigga bunny black man. 1591 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 2: All y'all went black, one hundred percent of y'all went black, 1592 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:32,200 Speaker 2: and all of y'all are right. 1593 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was really hitting that dude too. It wasn't 1594 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,160 Speaker 3: any rabbit punches. 1595 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,960 Speaker 4: I guess he gave a new meaning to the four 1596 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:02,639 Speaker 4: US flying. 1597 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:13,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised that even carry it all. 1598 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,920 Speaker 4: I see, that's what happened. That man messed with the 1599 01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:23,880 Speaker 4: wrong furry one. 1600 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,559 Speaker 2: What it's not even a good fun I don't care. 1601 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,759 Speaker 2: Like he broke his rabbit foot off in his ass. 1602 01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 4: You know furries. You know people dress up in those outfits. 1603 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,680 Speaker 2: The wrong furry wonder. I don't get the furry What 1604 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 2: does it mean? The wrong furry one? 1605 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:47,760 Speaker 4: Furry you know how? You know? 1606 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:54,479 Speaker 3: No, it's good. Here you go, here go. I don't 1607 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:55,720 Speaker 3: even know how I asked. That's on me. 1608 01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:03,720 Speaker 2: Trying to get to the part of video with he's black. Uh, 1609 01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 2: it's and they interview him like fresh out the suit, 1610 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,360 Speaker 2: like his hair was. It's funny because this this clearly 1611 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,599 Speaker 2: happens at night, but the interview is in the daytime. 1612 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,559 Speaker 2: He's still looked like he just came out of that 1613 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,680 Speaker 2: damn suit, Like I don't know what's so with that 1614 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:19,439 Speaker 2: all night long. 1615 01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,439 Speaker 3: Yep, So don't worry, guys. 1616 01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,360 Speaker 2: He did kill the man, but he was resurrected three 1617 01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:28,639 Speaker 2: days later, so it's fine. 1618 01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:33,679 Speaker 3: All right. Let's go to the next one. 1619 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,200 Speaker 2: A woman fans off of three hundred pound half naked 1620 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:42,479 Speaker 2: burglary suspect with a baby bat. It's like that, y'all. 1621 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:46,240 Speaker 2: It's like that, y'all. I hit the wood a baseball bat, y'all. 1622 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:47,479 Speaker 4: For the home run. 1623 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:49,960 Speaker 3: No, see, that was good. 1624 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:56,760 Speaker 4: Hold on, she wasn't about to strike out. 1625 01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,720 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe he was trying to see if she was 1626 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:01,360 Speaker 3: a single. 1627 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,040 Speaker 4: She's about to pop in with the double. 1628 01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:15,040 Speaker 3: It's all in the news cycle. Mm mm hmmm. I'm 1629 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,759 Speaker 3: surprised this didn't happen at Denny's. 1630 01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:22,200 Speaker 2: Oh, then she would have had a grand Slam. 1631 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,479 Speaker 3: Just kidding out. Fuck with Denny's. All right, let's get 1632 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 3: to the news article. 1633 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,719 Speaker 1: Her window to see a large, please say, three hundred 1634 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 1: pound man pulling on her car door handle. 1635 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:34,719 Speaker 3: I have this start in the middle. 1636 01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,479 Speaker 1: Early Sunday morning, when Clarice's Ganey said that she heard 1637 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 1: a noise outside her apartment. She peeked out her window 1638 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,719 Speaker 1: to see a large, please say, three hundred pound man 1639 01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,320 Speaker 1: pulling on her car door handle and knocking on its window, 1640 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:51,440 Speaker 1: attempting to break in, all while only wearing his boxers. 1641 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:59,560 Speaker 8: So I grabbed my bet. I braced myself. I braced myself. 1642 01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,600 Speaker 8: I'll open eased and no openah. 1643 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,040 Speaker 1: That's when Gainey says, five foot six, three hundred pounds 1644 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,559 Speaker 1: Antonio Moseley charged her. Little did he know she was 1645 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 1: a high school softball player, A sixty five year old slugger. 1646 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 4: I tucked that bed and hit him upside a piga all. 1647 01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:19,360 Speaker 4: That's when, please say. 1648 01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,799 Speaker 1: Moseley ran to a nearby mobile home park, leaving behind 1649 01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,000 Speaker 1: his jeans, shirt and a sock. 1650 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,200 Speaker 8: He was in his he was in his rows. He 1651 01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:32,160 Speaker 8: didn't have no shoes on, no shirt on, nothing. 1652 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:32,439 Speaker 4: Please say. 1653 01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,719 Speaker 1: A canine unit tracked Moseley down inside a mobile home 1654 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:39,960 Speaker 1: with new pants on and cocaine in his pocket. Officers 1655 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,439 Speaker 1: brought him back to Gainey to identify him. 1656 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,439 Speaker 8: Oh, I said, yeah, I said, that's him, right, Yeah, 1657 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,040 Speaker 8: this said miss gang. He got a big knut on 1658 01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:47,519 Speaker 8: his head. 1659 01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,639 Speaker 1: Mosley was booked in the Lachua County Jail with two 1660 01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,040 Speaker 1: charges of burglary and drug possession. 1661 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,320 Speaker 8: If he better be glad I didn't have a non 1662 01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,519 Speaker 8: because I would have shot him. But this him, my 1663 01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,639 Speaker 8: God right here, because I'm going by. 1664 01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:05,240 Speaker 3: Y'all, Are y'all. 1665 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:07,280 Speaker 1: Care? 1666 01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,479 Speaker 3: I guess the race of miss Gainey? 1667 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,320 Speaker 5: I think I think this is the one I've seen 1668 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,439 Speaker 5: on Facebook, so I can accuse myself. 1669 01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:20,320 Speaker 3: Okay, cararacruises herself. Uh, chat room. If y'all don't know, 1670 01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,920 Speaker 3: I guess guess the race. Yeah, I asked him I 1671 01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:23,759 Speaker 3: to be black. 1672 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,320 Speaker 2: Uh saw this on Facebook that a black nanas don't 1673 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:31,639 Speaker 2: take no mess from pantsless foods. Pa Ya black color 1674 01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:35,959 Speaker 2: licked the shots off Black Grannie. Uh Mada's big knockout 1675 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:40,240 Speaker 2: Black and Tonio Moseley was on blow blow Black Grannie 1676 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,400 Speaker 2: hang a little heavy on the left handed side. 1677 01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,920 Speaker 3: Black. I have no words Black, best Greens and the 1678 01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:49,080 Speaker 3: hood Black. She definitely gotta do that for Resurrection Sunday. 1679 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,479 Speaker 2: Black Black. Yeah, you guys all knocked that when out 1680 01:26:52,479 --> 01:27:07,160 Speaker 2: of the park she was black. I just realized I 1681 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,000 Speaker 2: don't know how to show y'all the picture without showing 1682 01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,680 Speaker 2: the whole video. I don't know how to get it 1683 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:12,240 Speaker 2: to go to. 1684 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,320 Speaker 3: The spot where it just showed her. But she's like, 1685 01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,559 Speaker 3: oh that she is. Does that work? 1686 01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:18,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, because they had the article. 1687 01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,600 Speaker 5: I think I've seen this one because they had it 1688 01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,800 Speaker 5: going down Facebook and they had her with that bat. 1689 01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:23,960 Speaker 4: It was hilarious. 1690 01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so she whooped that ass man. I don't know 1691 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:28,360 Speaker 3: he was working with the wrong one. 1692 01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,200 Speaker 2: They was like, yeah, he didn't know she was a 1693 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,400 Speaker 2: softball player. Was like, he didn't know she had a bat. 1694 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,640 Speaker 2: We didn't see a picture, baby, don't worry about it. 1695 01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:41,160 Speaker 2: She's Black'll go google it. Y'all seen it all. Last one. 1696 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:53,840 Speaker 2: Let's go to the bonus round. Double up, say the 1697 01:27:54,000 --> 01:28:00,280 Speaker 2: ras double these that's right, double the point double racing 1698 01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,639 Speaker 2: the bonus found. I guess the race so far, caring 1699 01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,760 Speaker 2: it two v two or one and one quoes. But 1700 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,320 Speaker 2: going into the bonusron, she hasn't missed anny. Let's see 1701 01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 2: how she does in the double the points double the 1702 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 2: race round. I think I'm gonna pause right here, so 1703 01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,599 Speaker 2: we go to the next session and don't get cut off. 1704 01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,240 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's do this. 1705 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,280 Speaker 2: Social media entrepreneur facing twenty years in jail for trying 1706 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:28,760 Speaker 2: to muscle a domain name oh Shit. An emerging entrepreneur 1707 01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,240 Speaker 2: seemilarly on the fast track for success, is now facing 1708 01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,519 Speaker 2: twenty years behind bars after he was convicted of threatening 1709 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 2: to harm an innocent domain holder for refusing to release 1710 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:38,560 Speaker 2: the domain. 1711 01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,519 Speaker 4: We couldn't just make something else up. 1712 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:46,240 Speaker 2: Rossi Lorothio Adams, the second, twenty six years old of 1713 01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:51,639 Speaker 2: state Snaps, was found guilty of charges last week. According 1714 01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:55,040 Speaker 2: to the Justice Department, State snaps features videos of women 1715 01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:59,320 Speaker 2: in thongs and bikinis partying it up in college with 1716 01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:03,360 Speaker 2: one point five five million viewers followers. State snaps urges 1717 01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,400 Speaker 2: people to snapshots and post on the site to the 1718 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:13,200 Speaker 2: under the catchphrase do it for State. According to Washington Post, 1719 01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,960 Speaker 2: the incident began in June twenty fifteen after Adams went 1720 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,320 Speaker 2: to the Cedar Rapids home of the victim listed in 1721 01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:21,120 Speaker 2: court follins as Ed to request that he sell the 1722 01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:25,439 Speaker 2: domain name do it for State dot Com. Adam's own 1723 01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,639 Speaker 2: do it for State number four, but not the for 1724 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,320 Speaker 2: but he felt he needed the other name as well, 1725 01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,719 Speaker 2: so he found an address for Ed through GoDaddy's listing 1726 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,840 Speaker 2: and showed up uninvited to the domain owner's home. Once there, 1727 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,240 Speaker 2: Adam informed Ed that he wanted to buyther do it 1728 01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,080 Speaker 2: for state domain, but Ed said it was not for sale. 1729 01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,000 Speaker 2: From that point on, court documents say Adams continued to 1730 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,400 Speaker 2: pressure Ed to sell the site. At one point Ed 1731 01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,080 Speaker 2: said he would sell it for twenty thousand dollars, but 1732 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,519 Speaker 2: Adams thought that amount was too high. When Adams sent 1733 01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,920 Speaker 2: one of Ed's friends a message with a gun mo 1734 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,479 Speaker 2: prosecutors were oh. So then he sent a his one 1735 01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:08,439 Speaker 2: of the guy's friends who had the domain, a message 1736 01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:12,800 Speaker 2: with a gun emoji. In May twenty seventeen, this is 1737 01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:16,439 Speaker 2: now like two years later, Adams went again to Ed's house. 1738 01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:20,640 Speaker 2: When his brother asked the door, Adams simultane it simulated 1739 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,320 Speaker 2: punching by punching his fist into his hand before stating, 1740 01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,880 Speaker 2: I'm here for the name. Whatever it takes, I'm not 1741 01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,880 Speaker 2: leaving without it. So he shut up like full force 1742 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,840 Speaker 2: in house. Party still didn't get the domain name. Finally, 1743 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,439 Speaker 2: in June twenty seventeen or four, two years after this started, 1744 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,839 Speaker 2: Adams orchestrated an incident at Ed's house. They turned bloody 1745 01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:47,000 Speaker 2: over a fucking domain name. Adams enlisted the help of 1746 01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:50,720 Speaker 2: his cousin, Sherman Hopkins Junior, a felon to help him 1747 01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,280 Speaker 2: get the website domain. Adams is charged of giving Hopkins 1748 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,920 Speaker 2: a stolen gun, a taser, and written instructures to get 1749 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,840 Speaker 2: e J They put it in this one okay. 1750 01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,760 Speaker 3: To transfer the domain name into Adam's go Daddy. 1751 01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:05,680 Speaker 2: Account, Hopkins broke into Ed's house using pantyhold, sunglasses, and 1752 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:09,040 Speaker 2: a hat to obsecure his face. Hopkins Hopkins busted down 1753 01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,479 Speaker 2: Edie's bedroom door and poor Edie at gunpoint to his 1754 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,800 Speaker 2: computer to begin transferring the domain name, all while pistol 1755 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,880 Speaker 2: whipping him and using the taser and threatening to further 1756 01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,840 Speaker 2: harm him if he notified police. The two men got 1757 01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,400 Speaker 2: into a tussle, and ed twisted the gun from Hopkins 1758 01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,040 Speaker 2: and shot him several times in the chest before calling 1759 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,559 Speaker 2: nine one one. Hopkins survived his injuries, but was charged 1760 01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,599 Speaker 2: by police. He was sentenced to twenty years in prison 1761 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,519 Speaker 2: last June after pleading guilty to one kind of interference 1762 01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:38,840 Speaker 2: with commerce by threats of violence. Imagine what are you 1763 01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:44,800 Speaker 2: in for? Try I get a domain name like you 1764 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,800 Speaker 2: do it for State? Now you're doing a state bed 1765 01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:50,920 Speaker 2: niggas Like what are you doing? Adams now faces the 1766 01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,080 Speaker 2: same sentence, plus to a two hundred and fifty thousand 1767 01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:56,120 Speaker 2: dollars fine after he was convicted last week. Car gains 1768 01:31:56,160 --> 01:32:00,920 Speaker 2: the race of ROSSI Lorothio Adams the second, everybody sounds white. 1769 01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,960 Speaker 2: Everybody sounds white to Cameron, Let's check the chat room 1770 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:06,280 Speaker 2: and see what you guys believe. 1771 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,160 Speaker 3: Dude, bro white Q what white nonsense? Does this mean? 1772 01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 2: Only a white man can make virtual colonize in real 1773 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:17,040 Speaker 2: life violent white when the titlement goes wrong, white. 1774 01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,519 Speaker 3: White, white white dot com all. 1775 01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:24,439 Speaker 2: Everything Columbus as white black went three times this some 1776 01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:30,000 Speaker 2: whiteness eighties b movie white white. So it looks like 1777 01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,240 Speaker 2: everybody went with white on this on itself for one 1778 01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,559 Speaker 2: person and everybody is. 1779 01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely wrong. He's black whack. 1780 01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,160 Speaker 4: I demand to recount what's happening. 1781 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:55,680 Speaker 2: Here, and for the one person that got it right, 1782 01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,000 Speaker 2: you get the golf clap because nobody else. 1783 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:05,959 Speaker 3: Saw that ship coming. 1784 01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:08,640 Speaker 4: Three times. 1785 01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:10,799 Speaker 3: Lorotheo Adams. A second. 1786 01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,800 Speaker 2: I guess Loratheo could have been a giveaway, but I 1787 01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,040 Speaker 2: thought it was like some Greek shit who knows over 1788 01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:18,200 Speaker 2: a domain. 1789 01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,080 Speaker 3: Name, domain name, dog domain. 1790 01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:26,600 Speaker 2: Thuggin roll up on that actp bitch, you about to 1791 01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,280 Speaker 2: put that ship in my goddaddy account. 1792 01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,000 Speaker 3: I know that much. If I put the put the 1793 01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,280 Speaker 3: chopper to your ass man, that's a lot of pressure 1794 01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:40,720 Speaker 3: over a domain name. 1795 01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:44,520 Speaker 4: Fam as we putting out the gas over domains. 1796 01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:49,479 Speaker 2: Now, Pistol living on right one point five million followers 1797 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,320 Speaker 2: ain't worth for all that, fam I'm sorry, all right, 1798 01:33:53,560 --> 01:34:17,519 Speaker 2: let's get out of here with some soord ratchiness. A 1799 01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:21,920 Speaker 2: brainer Demand threatens victim with sword and according to the 1800 01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,240 Speaker 2: criminal complaint, Brainerd police are called at one twenty two 1801 01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,439 Speaker 2: pm February sixteenth to an apartment in Brainerd regarding her 1802 01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:30,880 Speaker 2: disturbance between known men. The victims stated the store Sid 1803 01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:35,040 Speaker 2: had head budding him. They never introduced Storstad before. 1804 01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:38,400 Speaker 3: This is what is happening, wrote and I was talking, 1805 01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:39,040 Speaker 3: so what happened with you? 1806 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:39,920 Speaker 4: Fayettors? 1807 01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,479 Speaker 2: And I was to talk to the victim, who explained 1808 01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,479 Speaker 2: he was standing in the kitchen when he in store 1809 01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,280 Speaker 2: Stad got into an argument. Store Stad then struck the 1810 01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,200 Speaker 2: victim's face with his forehead. Store Stad then withdrew a 1811 01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:51,760 Speaker 2: sword from a sheaf. 1812 01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:52,439 Speaker 3: That was near the kitchen. 1813 01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,720 Speaker 2: The victim stated he put hisself on his pocket and 1814 01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,320 Speaker 2: walked towards the bathroom and shut the door. Store Stad 1815 01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:59,040 Speaker 2: followed him with the sword stay and if you call 1816 01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,880 Speaker 2: the cost out kill you. I mean you got a sword, 1817 01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:04,960 Speaker 2: and I mean it feels like I need to call them. 1818 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,719 Speaker 2: Either way, I'm dying. While in the bathroom, the victim 1819 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,400 Speaker 2: called the law enforcement. The store Stad immediately began to 1820 01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,760 Speaker 2: call him down. Store Stad has multiple prior convictions, one 1821 01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,519 Speaker 2: for domestic violence of twenty fifteen, another for making terroristic 1822 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:19,240 Speaker 2: threats in twenty ten. He was also charged January twenty 1823 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:23,799 Speaker 2: eight for fella need domestic assault, oh the trifecta. According 1824 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,760 Speaker 2: to court records, this incident involved the same victim. When 1825 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,080 Speaker 2: the two were physically fighting, the complaint state store Stad 1826 01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,280 Speaker 2: punched them multiple times in their head also kicked them 1827 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:31,960 Speaker 2: a few times. 1828 01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:33,759 Speaker 3: On February twentieth, store. 1829 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,800 Speaker 2: Stat was released from the crow Wing County Jail and 1830 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,000 Speaker 2: must not leave the state, possess any firearms or ammunitions, 1831 01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,520 Speaker 2: have contact with the victim, possessed any alcoholic. 1832 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,599 Speaker 3: Drugs, and must make future court heres. They didn't even 1833 01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,760 Speaker 3: say he couldn't have a sword, did y'all notice that? Right? 1834 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,000 Speaker 4: Everything else though, you. 1835 01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:52,400 Speaker 3: Can't have a gun, but you can still have a sword. Sword. 1836 01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:56,160 Speaker 3: He's in your custody because of the sword. We don't 1837 01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:57,240 Speaker 3: take it seriously in this country. 1838 01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:57,920 Speaker 4: No, we don't. 1839 01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 2: All right, guys, we'll be back Wednesday. We are doing 1840 01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:03,040 Speaker 2: our Game of Thrones. We cat with Jamil Hill. 1841 01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:05,559 Speaker 3: Tomorrow we may or may not have a show. 1842 01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:09,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna be a guest on another podcast and depending 1843 01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,880 Speaker 2: on the timing of that depends on whether or not 1844 01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:12,920 Speaker 2: we do a show tomorrow. 1845 01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:17,680 Speaker 4: So until then, I love you.