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Speaker 1: something to say about Arizona. It was their recruiting director,

430
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Speaker 1: Marshall um I believe his name is Marshall Charrington. He said,

431
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Speaker 1: y'all be careful where you commit to three exclamation points,

432
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: four exclamation points. If you're not, you could get your

433
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: scholarship pulled and dropped less than two months before signing day.

434
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Speaker 1: Hashtag crazy times. And I guess some background information on

435
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: what is going on is you and I had talked

436
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: about on this podcast the Arizona State was taking a

437
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: national approach to recruiting, right, so they have some of

438
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: these commits from all over the country and and you

439
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: and I talked last week on this podcast about how

440
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: Arizona State was probably gonna drop some of these guys.

441
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: And we had a little back and forth on you know,

442
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Speaker 1: whether you felt it was okay to do something like that.

443
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: And we're gonna go more into depth on this show

444
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Speaker 1: as to why it might be happening and let people

445
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: judge from themselves whether or not they think it's all right. Obviously,

446
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of the laundry, you will make

447
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: any excuse whatsoever to to to cover for whatever your

448
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: team did, even if it was wrong. And then the

449
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: possibility exists that it's just a victim of of the

450
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: of circumstance. But um Arizona State was at twenty two

451
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Speaker 1: commits and I had said on the show, they're gonna

452
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Speaker 1: drop some people. They dropped four in four days, and

453
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Speaker 1: they dropped one from North Carolina, I think, one from Florida,

454
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Speaker 1: and two from Wisconsin, including a tight end and a

455
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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman named Marcus Mbo. And what's very interesting

456
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: is kids get dropped by their schools all of the time,

457
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Speaker 1: and then they'll go on Twitter and say, after like

458
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Speaker 1: consulting my family, UM and a lot of prayer, I'm

459
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 1: reopening my commitment. I would like to thank ex school

460
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Speaker 1: for recruit me, respect my decision. No interviews please or something. Yeah,

461
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: that's the that's the template. You just change your name,

462
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: change the school, change the emojis, and you'll be fine. Yeah,

463
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: And So what that tweet means is one of three things.

464
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: It either means they are about to get a bigger

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Speaker 1: offer from somebody else and they're thinking about flipping, or

466
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: their attention dramatically increased and they were committed to like

467
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: Fresno State or something. Um, there's an error, there's So

468
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: here's an example. You're probably going to see a University

469
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: of Arizona kid de commit soon because he just got

470
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. Um, he's a really really good wide receiver

471
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: name key on Grace. So just keep an eye on

472
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: that because you might see that actual tweet in relation

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Speaker 1: to you know, I'm not I'm not saying that it's

474
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Speaker 1: going to happen, but he's a year and a half

475
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: out from committing and his stock just went through the roof,

476
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: So you know, they're that possibility exists for somebody like him.

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00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: Reason number two is you messed up, right, like you,

478
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: you did something that caused a school to move on

479
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: from you. Sometimes that can be academics, sometimes that can

480
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: be your behavior or the third thing. The third thing

481
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: is that like your position coach got another job of

482
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: somewhere else and then that that you know, typically so

483
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: there was some type of change in the agreement, the

484
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: agreement was broken. Um. And the third thing that happens

485
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: is a school calls you and says we're dropping you.

486
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Speaker 1: But to avoid the embarrassment of saying that you got

487
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Speaker 1: dropped by the school, the mutual understanding is that it

488
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt you and it doesn't hurt the school to

489
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Speaker 1: go on and just say you're reopening your your recruitment.

490
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Speaker 1: People who are have ends with different recruiting insiders or

491
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: who are subscribed seven arrivals, they'll get either the full

492
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: story of their spun story from the recruiting department after

493
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: the fact. Um. What's interesting about the recruits that got

494
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: dropped by Arizona State this last week is they tweeted

495
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: that airs on the state drop them. Yeah. Yeah, they

496
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: almost identical tweets by the way. Very interesting. Yeah, that

497
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: they went out and just said it because and I

498
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: think that that showed some frustration in the process. And

499
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: I know that some schools do it. I hate it,

500
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Speaker 1: and I hate that Arizona. I think that this is

501
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: a bad look on Arizona State because it's different if

502
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: you have to drop one kid, right because some magical

503
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: five star recruit or super good four star recruit wants

504
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 1: to come to your school, right, I get it, I

505
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: am I understand how that works. My issue is, how

506
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: do you let four kids commit? Because remember just because

507
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Speaker 1: that the Arizona State is sent out the by far

508
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: the most offers in the back to off and then

509
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Speaker 1: but some of them are not committable, which we've we've

510
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: already addressed. I think that that's stupid. But they're not

511
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: committable offers. But then some of them are committable, and

512
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: then they take commitments from kids. So if the kid

513
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough for for you to sign, why not

514
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: just make him wait like the other kids do, like

515
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: because they're because there were kids like uh that are

516
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: mid three stars low four stars that are waiting to

517
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: see what happened with like Corey Forman and and j

518
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: T too them allowed. They're waiting to see what happens

519
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: with those kids the way then they figure out what

520
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: school that that they go to. But the idea that

521
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Speaker 1: you would have four kids commit that you know aren't

522
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: quote unquote good enough in your eyes, it's just it's

523
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: just bothersome to me one, okay, And it shouldn't even

524
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: happen every single year like it should happen, you know,

525
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: every now and then, way before the cycle, and I don't.

526
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Speaker 1: I don't like it, Ralph. It's disgusting to me because

527
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: these coaches are gonna get paid their full do A

528
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: lot of these classes are filled up or filling up

529
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: right now. Some of the kids won't have offers that

530
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 1: they previously had. H I can't. I hate it with

531
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: the power of a thousand sons. I I I understand.

532
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: This whole thing has been really interesting for me because

533
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, I said it was going to happen. It's happening,

534
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: and there's nothing like I don't want it to happen,

535
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: and I don't want to talk about it because a

536
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: lot of my followers are from my time as managing

537
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: editor of Devil's Digest and then their lead recruiting analysts,

538
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: and there's this idea out there that I've got something

539
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: out for these these A s U coaches because of

540
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: their inability to get local kids um on campus, which

541
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: is just a completely different conversation altogether. But I will

542
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: tell you the absolute bane of my existence is having

543
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: Arizona State fans take shots at me for me calling

544
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: it like I see it. When it comes to the

545
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: way that they recruit, and there's no feelings wrapped up

546
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: in it. For me, I don't care what they do

547
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: and don't do. But when something happens, I'm going to

548
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: give my perspective on it and the way that I

549
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: see it. And if the way that I see it

550
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: is incorrect or it can be seen a different way,

551
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm more than willing to listen. But the truth is, um,

552
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. I very much know what

553
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: I'm doing. And you can believe me who talks to

554
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: all these kids and has them relay all of their

555
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: conversations that they have with all of these coaches directly

556
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: to me. Uh, And then you can see a pattern

557
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: over time and you can say, oh, maybe there's actually

558
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: something to this, or you can just write it off

559
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: as I'm out to get your favorite team the same

560
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: school that I have a degree from, which doesn't you know,

561
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: in my in my personal opinion, doesn't make a whole

562
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: lot of sense. But you and I talk about on

563
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: this podcast when a su started getting kids committing from

564
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: Wisconsin in the middle of a pandemic, that it was,

565
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, them going on Instagram and searching the hashtag

566
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: tempee life and they're shut in their house in Wisconsin

567
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: and they see people out at pool parties in Arizona,

568
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: and uh, you know that they went full robbed Gronkowski

569
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: and Gronkowski and said, I'm going across the country and

570
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: that's where I'm gonna go to school. And I was

571
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: always a little bit concerned at the idea of people

572
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: from other parts of the country committing site unseen to

573
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: any school um, whether it's Arizona State or not. So

574
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: I've always been under the impression there's gonna be a

575
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: ton of movement with this recruiting class, with the next

576
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: recruiting class. But i will tell you this, um, both

577
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilette, the tight end from Wisconsin that dropped UM,

578
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: as well as Marcus Mbo, the offensive lineman from Wisconsin

579
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: that were dropped, they realized relayed what was told to them,

580
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: and Marcus said, they just told us we don't have

581
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: a spot for you anymore. And uh, Garrett jill Let

582
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: said that they told him they only want one tight

583
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: end in this class, so they can only really afford

584
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: to have one tight end in this class. Um. They

585
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: the Marcus and bow tweet has like two hundred some replies,

586
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: two hundreds some quote tweets. A lot of it's a

587
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: SU fans who are just trying to understand what's going

588
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: on and and are wishing him the best and treating

589
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: him with class and being absolutely fantastic. Some of them

590
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: are Arizona high school football coaches. Arizona high school football

591
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: coaches are in the replies of Wisconsin prospects telling them like,

592
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: here's one example, huge shocker. They do it all the time.

593
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: They're hanging there and good luck. Arizona high school football

594
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: coaches are tweeting at Wisconsin kids, blasting a s U.

595
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: Something is off, something's not right, and so UM, you know,

596
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: I will tell you. I'll tell you this. And I

597
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: got a call from a parent on the day that

598
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: this happened, which was the twenty so a couple of

599
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: days ago, I got a call from a parent of

600
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: a pretty high profile kid that a s U is

601
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 1: after UM, and he told me we're done. I don't

602
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: trust them. I don't like that they do this to kids,

603
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: whether they're from the state of Arizona or not. I

604
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: don't like what they did with Frank Thompson last year,

605
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: which we talked about on the last episode of of

606
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: this podcast. UM telling him that he has a home

607
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: here and to shut his recruitment down and then dropping

608
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: him after the state championship game before letting all reporters

609
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: know what they were gonna you and I talked about this, Yes,

610
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, So it's somebody the a s

611
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: U s after and and you know, I was told

612
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: by their parents that that there's no way now that

613
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: they've lost all trust because of this. And I didn't

614
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: influence this conversation. People are going to believe what they believe.

615
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: But you have to understand this is also the third

616
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: year in a row that I've gotten that call, not

617
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: and from different parents every single time of somebody that

618
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: really that wanted to be at Arizona State but said,

619
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: based on things that have happened, I have lost trust

620
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: for this coaching staff and so I'm gonna move on

621
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: and go elsewhere. At the same time, you know who's

622
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: kicking acid recruiting anyway, Arizona State. They're they're doing relatively

623
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: and comparatively well, and they're getting super talented kids. And

624
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what happens with the recruiting class

625
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: and how they develop it. And some fans have an

626
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: easier time swallowing that pill. But what they tell themselves

627
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: is that everybody does it, and that everybody does it

628
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: exactly like this. But I've been around this a long time.

629
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: Everybody does some version of stuff within the game of

630
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: recruiting that I don't necessarily have a comfort level with.

631
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: But drop in four kids in four days, Um, it's

632
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: not It's not normal. I just want I want people

633
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: to know that, because they say, well, that's what you

634
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: need to do to be an elite program. These elite

635
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: programs just hold spots open because other people are fighting

636
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: for those spots. So that's not what Alabama does. That's

637
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: not what an does. And when they don't, they don't

638
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: have to correct. They don't have to like like, um,

639
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: if it happens every now and then, like okay, and

640
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: it should be well before like three or four months,

641
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: like so much time. But like at like the top programs,

642
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: like you said, Rol, they aren't uh, they aren't saying

643
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, well, well we'll take your commitment. But

644
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: then if these other kids come, no, they just they

645
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: just say, all right, look we have five spots open,

646
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: like they tell the kids straight up. One of my

647
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: friends is that is the is a coach at Georgia.

648
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: He's like they tell kids, listen, we got five spots open.

649
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: You are number three on our list. We if if

650
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: if for some reason, this kid who's number one kid

651
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: in the country, which because kids under understand that that

652
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: doesn't make them feel less one it They're just like, Okay,

653
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: I understand, he's the number one kid kid the country

654
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: is the best thing since light's bread. At least that's

655
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: what they think. And but I want to go to Georgia.

656
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: So if he doesn't go, then I know that I'm

657
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm in. And and the kids tell him like, yo,

658
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: well if if he doesn't come, I will commit, period,

659
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: and that's what they do. Yeah, it's I don't know, man,

660
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: I do know. So there there is a kid that

661
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: they've been on recently who's very, very talented, and I'm

662
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited to see what ends up happening with

663
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: him as a college football player. Uh. They they offered

664
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: him um pretty recently, and they told him the reason

665
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: that they didn't offer him before is that the coach

666
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: who is there previously screwed up. They put it on

667
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: him and like, I know that coach that was there previously,

668
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: and it didn't have anything to do with him. And

669
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: so there's just some of this, some of this that's

670
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: going on right now at a s U. It's it.

671
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: I think that there's that attitude that in order to

672
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: compete with the U s c s and the oregons,

673
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: that you have to be absolutely cutthroat and that it's

674
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: a rough game and you've got to be able to

675
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: play it rough. And I understand it and respect it

676
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: to some degree, but I do want people that are

677
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: listening this to this to know that it's not the norm.

678
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: It is not the norm. Like what I'm seeing from

679
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: Arizona State right now is not normal, not even amongst

680
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: some of the really big programs. Because the really really

681
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: big programs that have a huge, huge following, when they

682
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: pull something like this, it it blows up in their faces.

683
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: It's it's like there's not a ton of media covering

684
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: these Pack twelve teams and their recruiting decisions. And to

685
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: be honest, most recruiting reporters depend on the schools for

686
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: their information. So they're gonna put out whatever version of

687
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: the school's spin is to maintain whatever access that they have.

688
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: Now that's not that doesn't go down to a t

689
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: of what happens. But that's that's the incentive is Hey,

690
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: you know, push our take on this, um, and it's

691
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: gonna be better for you. And so you know, there

692
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: are schools that have like ten websites, so like take

693
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. Texas A and M has like

694
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: ten websites that cover their recruiting, not just rivals. If

695
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: Texas A and M was to pull something like this

696
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: and drop three kids in one day, eight of those

697
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: websites that don't have the level of access that maybe

698
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: the top two have are going to crap all over

699
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: the program and they're gonna do it for a month straight,

700
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: and then they're going to interview all of the high

701
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: school coaches involved, and then they're gonna print those stories

702
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: because those comments and that drama is gonna be juicy.

703
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: Arizona State doing this, there were you know, all of

704
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: Wisconsin was pretty piste off. There's a few coaches in

705
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: North Carolina that are upset. Obviously Arizona high school coaches

706
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: don't think the Arizona State is doing things the right way. UM.

707
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: But other than that, it's not We're talking about it

708
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: on this podcast, and it's gonna it's just gonna fade away.

709
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: It's not really going to be that big of a deal.

710
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: But I do want people that listen to make themselves

711
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: that this is what other people do. It's it's not

712
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: entirely true, and it does impact recruiting, like maybe not

713
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: this year, but the next year you you try to

714
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: get I gotta. I got a call saying that they're

715
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: they're they are not having their kids consider Arizona State anymore.

716
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: And that's the third year in a row that I've

717
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: gotten a call like that from a parent based on

718
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: something that they feel like Arizona State did wrong. That

719
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: they said, I wanted my kid to be local, but

720
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm taking them out of contention because I don't trust

721
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: what's going on with the staff there, which is within

722
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: the parents right And Okay, well, there has to be

723
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: some reason why Arizona kids don't go to Arizona State.

724
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: But people don't want to hear that, George. They don't

725
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: want to hear it. They people don't people who are

726
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: fans of Arizona State have taken the position that there's

727
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: something wrong with the kids. Collectively, the best kid in

728
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: the state of California, in the state of Arizona what

729
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: like the the last so the last year it was

730
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: Keiley Keilly Ringo wasn't even considering it, and then who

731
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: was the next best kid like Tyler Shug It has

732
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: been it has been years. It hit so a su

733
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: really hit big inen. They almost landed Byron Murphy and

734
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: they did get Ni Kila Harry and Chase lucas Um.

735
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: That was huge. Ever since then, they've had a really

736
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: really hard time even getting in the door with the

737
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: top ten kids every single year. I think two of

738
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: those years, two of those four or five recruiting classes,

739
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: the highest ranked kid that they've landed was number thirteen

740
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: or fourteen within the state of Arizona. And when I

741
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: talked to the kids that are ranked above them about

742
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: why they didn't consider Arizona State, there's a grievance there.

743
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: It's not the other places where a better fit. It's

744
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: I wish Arizona State showed that they wanted me as

745
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: much as all these other schools, but they didn't. And

746
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: so then when I tried to relay that to Arizona

747
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: State fans, they're like, well, and we didn't want them anyway.

748
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: Their divas, they want to be pampered and spoiled. And

749
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: the truth is, I'm gonna say this, and it is

750
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: the most true thing about recruiting in the entire world.

751
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: If you are a local school, if you are a

752
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: cow and you're recruiting the Bay Area, if you are

753
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: Oregon and you are recruiting in Portland, if you are

754
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: usc and you are recruiting in southern California, it is

755
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: not your job to show the kid more love than

756
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: other programs are going to show them. The expectation is

757
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: that you're going to recruit them. That's the expectation because

758
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: you're in the in their backyard. So when you make

759
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: a decision not to recruit somebody in your backyard, you

760
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: better have a really good reason for it, and the

761
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: upfront with the kid. Okay, if you do choose to

762
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: recruit a kid that is in your backyard, you have

763
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: one job, and it's the most simple job in the

764
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: entire world. And as how Arizona State Land at DJ Foster,

765
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: you tell them how you're going to use them. You

766
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: tell them the plan, not just the plan for their

767
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: four years in school, but the plan for forty years beyond.

768
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: You introduced them to boosters, You get them connected with

769
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: the community, you show them what an Arizona State legacy

770
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: is going to mean to them. So it's not about

771
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: sending the letters, it's not about making the phone calls,

772
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: it's not about getting the text messages. Because the baseline

773
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: expectation as a local recruit for anyone in the country

774
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: is that you're already going to get those things. So

775
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: you go beyond showing them love, You go beyond courting them,

776
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: you go beyond flattering them to tell them this is

777
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: how we see you here, and you treat them like

778
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: they're already going to commit. That's the key to the

779
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: local recruiting. Arizona State has not done that. USC failed

780
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: to do that for a while. It's not that it's

781
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: it's there is no secret sauce to this. And as

782
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: much as Arizona State fans want to believe that there's

783
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: an issue with these Arizona kids and their parents are

784
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: all from somewhere else and college kids just want to

785
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: get away from home, that might be true to some extent,

786
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: But how come these kids leave with a problem with

787
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: a s U That shouldn't be the case. And that's

788
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: what's happening more and more is they leave upset with

789
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: their experience of being recruited by Arizona State. There's an

790
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: issue there, and if people don't want to listen to

791
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: me on it, that's fine. But it's just going to

792
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: continue to move in this direction, and you're gonna have

793
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: to continue to pile up more and more excuses to

794
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: be able to to make your point on this. The

795
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: Texas schools have been going to You're gonna get hate mail.

796
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: You are gonna get hate mail. I'm mad at Unafraid

797
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: show dot com. I am m a d at Unafraid

798
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: show dot com. You can let Ralph know your displeasure,

799
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: whether you agree or disagree with Can we get into

800
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: can we get into why Arizona State might not be

801
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: in the wrong though when white, it might not have

802
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: anything to do with it? Is you okay? It's the

803
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: the n C double A is screwing everybody over. How

804
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: well they said that you can now make a one

805
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: time transfer without penalty, and they also said that this

806
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: year doesn't have to count against your eligibility. But what's

807
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: the scholarship limits still set at George? So what does

808
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: that mean for recruits? That means that kids not in

809
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: the one class because these kids are already committed that

810
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: that well, actually, no, it's gonna impact one to depending

811
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: on how many people. That's what a SU saying is

812
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: those four kids got dropped because the n C double

813
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: A dropped the ball. Yeah. Oh, and we talked about

814
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: this when they first like months and months ago. We

815
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: said the n C double A, it's gonna have to

816
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: um A just scholarship limits, so they're gonna have to

817
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: be up like ten, like like eighty, like ninety five

818
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: for next year and then but but you can only

819
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: sign a class of twenty five still, so like ninety

820
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: five and then uh ninety three ninety eight seven, and

821
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: then in in four or five years you can be

822
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: back down to the eight five number because it throws

823
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: everything off by just suggusting it one year and it

824
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: squeezes out uh the kids, especially in two because if

825
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: you have schools that push out their seniors and then

826
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: they sign a full class, that means that you're gonna

827
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: have uh, some of these two kids that are like

828
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: there's gonna be less scholarships available for them, So you're

829
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: gonna have some of the best high school players not

830
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: being able to go I mean like they're gonna have

831
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: to instead of going to a bigger school or the

832
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: school that they maybe want to go to that they

833
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: ordinarily would get a scholarship to. I think you're gonna

834
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: see those classes in the teens instead of around I mean,

835
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: and when we and when you're willing to take some

836
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: of the heat off of Arizona State and understanding that

837
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: if if they can now, if they get there, if

838
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: they get this class back up to twenty two, it's

839
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: gonna make them look like jerks, right. But if they

840
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 1: stay at eighteen because of what's going on, and maybe

841
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: drop one or two more kids because they got more

842
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: talented kids in their sights. But if they keep this

843
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: class at eighteen, there should at least be some understanding

844
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: that that has more to do with the n C

845
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: double A than it does with Arizona State's coaching staff.

846
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: I will, I will absolutely apologize to them if that's

847
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: the case, But I got a sneaky suspicion at that

848
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: probably ain't it. They'll be back at one twenty two,

849
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: and then they'll be then they'll be standing there with

850
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: egg on their face. But they have a better recruiting class.

851
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: But that's why I want Cow and Arizona that are

852
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: taking shots at Arizona State. They've got to be careful

853
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: because they could find themselves in this exact situation very soon.

854
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: Um or they planned for it, you know, which is

855
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: which I mean, which is a novel concept these days. Um.

856
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: We actually, oh, we actually have a couple of questions

857
00:50:54,840 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: that you guys sent in, So I will ask you first, Ralph, Um,

858
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: will pac twelve fans be allowed before the end of

859
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: the year. That's from at Sasso seventy. It doesn't it

860
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it to me. The way that we're trending,

861
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: the way that cases are sort of moving upward. Um,

862
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: Arizona is back to pre June UM levels are not

863
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: pre June early June levels, which is what happened right

864
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: before things exploded. It makes me a little bit worried

865
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: that that. Um, you know, Doug Doocy, the governor here,

866
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: really wants to see fans in the stands. Um. But

867
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: if things are going to be trending in in that direction, um,

868
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: you know, he just he tweeted this morning that he

869
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: wants to see everybody massed up, even though he was

870
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: um hanging out at a rally two days ago in

871
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: Tucson and in Prescott Arizona, where nobody was wearing masks,

872
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: so it's like mixed messaging and it's kind of confusing.

873
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: But like if you see the spread continue, Um, I

874
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to happen in Arizona. I don't

875
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: believe it's gonna happen in California or Oregon. So that

876
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: leaves Colorado. And Colorado's football team already got in trouble

877
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: for hiking on a mountain with their masks around their chins,

878
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: so it doesn't feel like it's going to happen in Colorado.

879
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: I think the state of Washington still has PTSD from

880
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: what happened with the initial outbreak there. So what are

881
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: we looking at? Maybe Salt Lake will be the only place.

882
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: Will you be able to get some people in the stands. Um, So,

883
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: if you're a Utah fan, maybe this could happen for you,

884
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: but for everybody else right now, I'm not sure it's

885
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: gonna work out. If the numbers trend the way that

886
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: they've been trending, yeah, I would agree with you. Um,

887
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: I think it's doubtful. I think that if if you do,

888
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: you'll have maybe a thousand maybe, Like I mean, they've

889
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: got families right, families are gonna be able to go. Yeah. Yeah,

890
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: I think that that's going to be the extent towards

891
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: the end of the season. I mean me, I mean,

892
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I could sneak into an

893
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: Oregon game like that. That's where we're at right now.

894
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: Um Ralph, well a s U or Arizona have any

895
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: major impact on the back twelve standings. Why are you

896
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: trying not to laugh? Well, I hold on, Arizona is

897
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: going to okay, he here is the only impact that

898
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna have. Obviously Week one, Arizona State versus USC.

899
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: If Arizona State doesn't win that game, they're gonna have

900
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: no impact. Well, actually there are only other impact will

901
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: be beating uh Utah or you see whoever else is

902
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: actually contending for the back twelve south. So yes, they'll

903
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: have an impact if they win that game, and then

904
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: Arizona can have an impact if Arizona State wins that

905
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: game and then they come I can beat um Arizona

906
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 1: State in the Territorial Cup. But I don't. You don't

907
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: think Arizona has any chance at all in Salt Lake

908
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: on November seven, they're opener. They may, but I don't. No,

909
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean yes, because Utah has lost a lot. But

910
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: bro Arizona, Arizona is a speed bump right now. They're

911
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: a speed bump for people, Like, yes, you can, I

912
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: guess you know you can bust out a tire on

913
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: a speed bump, but it's not very likely. It's it

914
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: is tough at Utah home against U c l A

915
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: and at Washington is how they start the year. What okay,

916
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: what odds would you give, like, what odds would you

917
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: give at University of Arizona starting three and oh zero,

918
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: like in Vegas? Like you wouldn't even take the bet.

919
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: You would not tell people to keep their money. Yes,

920
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: I would, dude, dude, you actually I'll give you like

921
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: plus Actually they would probably be like plus six thousands

922
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: to to win, to beat Utah, USC and Washington in

923
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: consecutive weeks. Hell no, dude, that that's not even possible.

924
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: It's not even more likely. You have a starts the

925
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: season three and oh or every Pack twelve game gets played.

926
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good fat rolf. I would probably go

927
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: with every pack to it. I would bet that all

928
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve games get get gets played because I

929
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: think that there's a I think that there's a tiny

930
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: percentage that that happens, and I think that there's a

931
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: zero percent chance the other thing happens. Um. Oh, we

932
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: have a question that we will say for last because

933
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: people may crash their car when I ask it, Um,

934
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: which South team is best equipped to beat Oregon? And

935
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm and i'm that question I think is assuming that

936
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: that crossover game is gonna be, you know, against the

937
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: top team. So which Pac twelve South team is best

938
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: equipped to beat Oregon? I think you need Gosh, that's

939
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: a tough one because it's still really fresh in my

940
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: mind some of the mistakes that Keatan Slovis made UM

941
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: against Oregon, and I felt like they were in that

942
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: game though, I really do, and then just the wheels

943
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: fell off. It feels like Oregon had all that practice

944
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: playing against Mike Leach and they just just unleashed on

945
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: on Slovis. Um that the pass rush is going to

946
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: be difficult. Just it's not so much what's left in

947
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: the secondary for Oregon right now. It's the pass rush

948
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: that I'm most worried about. So you either have to

949
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: have somebody who gets it out of the gets the

950
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: ball out of their hand, immediately and has a truckload

951
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: of weapons like Keatan Slovis, or you need somebody who

952
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: can get away from you like Dorian Thompson, Robinson or

953
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels. It's not gonna be Colorado or Utah or Arizona.

954
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: So I would say I would say that most likely

955
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: to beat Oregon for me as USC and then to

956
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: A and to be would be a s U and

957
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: U c l A. Just because a mobile quarterback can

958
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: change everything about the entire way that a game is played.

959
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean just look at you know, look at in

960
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: the NFL right now. Um, you know, if you have

961
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback that can that can get out and go,

962
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: you have a winning record. So but I do think,

963
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: I do think that the talent at receiver at USC

964
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: is so immense right now. Um, and they're gonna get

965
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: Breue McCoy on top of all of that, that the

966
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: possibility exists if they can get open and slogs can

967
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: stay accurate, that that can keep him in a game

968
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: against Oregon. I one hundred. I could not agree with

969
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: you more, Ralph. I think that you're a spot on there.

970
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: Um is Brett Johnson the best defensive lineman ever? Yes,

971
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: or yes. Well, the answer is yes, Um, he's He's

972
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: definitely my favorite wheat uh so um. I listened to

973
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: the other Pack twelve podcasts that are out there, and

974
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: and and uh some of them, I you know, enjoy

975
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: more than others. And and some of them you know,

976
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: are informational and some of them are entertaining. But I'm

977
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: a listener, you know, I consume all Pack twelve content

978
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: that I possibly can. And the twelve Pack Radio was

979
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: talking about how they thought that cal was gonna have

980
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: a big defensive letdown this year, but that they were

981
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: happy that Brett Johnson was moving from D TACKLE to

982
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: d N because they didn't think he could hack it

983
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: on a as the nose guard on a three man front.

984
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: And that pissed me off a little bit because I'm

985
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: the world's biggest Brett Johnson fan, and I think that

986
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: he is like the I think he's j J. Wattreem

987
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: carnated so um for me. He can do whatever the

988
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: hell he wants and there's nothing you can do to

989
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: stop him. And he's awesome. He I and and he

990
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't have, you know, he doesn't have what Cavon

991
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: Thibodeau does as far as you know, the that first

992
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 1: step get off. But the boy is just like he's

993
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: country strong and he's incredibly violent. He's the most chill

994
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: guy in the world, like long hair, kind of surfer,

995
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: laid back attitude. But this is a guy who in

996
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: the state championship Heavyweight wrestling um in the state of Arizona,

997
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: he picked up his opponent and like body slammed them

998
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: to sleep. He's a freak. He's an absolutely freaking He

999
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: got a lot of playing time on the d line

1000
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: as a freshman for cal So. I took offense to

1001
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: the idea that he can't play inside, but they are

1002
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: moving him to the outside. And I don't think that

1003
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: cow is gonna have a big slip defensively. Uh yeah,

1004
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: but but yeah, the answer is yes, um uh okay, dude,

1005
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: and so so now so now Brett is now part

1006
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: of the Ralph family. So you have so, you have

1007
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: Brett Johnson Amsden, you have Khalil Tate Amsden and you

1008
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: did did you see what he did? He started a

1009
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: clothing company called Mr. October Do. Reggie Jackson is an

1010
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: a s U A lum and Khalil Tate started a

1011
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: clothing company called Mr. October to celebrate the month that

1012
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: he went off as a sophomore control a s U fans,

1013
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: and I keep having people in my mentions asking if

1014
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy any of the merchandise, and of course

1015
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: the answer is yes. And hold up and you and

1016
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: there's one more member of the Amsden family. Where is that?

1017
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Josh Allen? No, no no, no,

1018
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: no no no no, come home. Think about who is

1019
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: Brett Johnson, Khalil Tate? And who else do you cape

1020
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: for more than anybody else in this conference? Tyler Shuck? No,

1021
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: he you you You haven't officially Begun is caping yet

1022
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: because he hasn't played. You are just the hype man there,

1023
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: Hambil Carra Shad Amsden, Oh yeah, that's yeah. That somebody

1024
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: left a review one time that all I do is

1025
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: is hype up Arizona high school football players, and I'm like, well,

1026
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, Thomas Graham only lived in Arizona until he

1027
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: was nine, and he played his high school football in California,

1028
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: so technically some California um uh so um. Another question,

1029
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't understand how the late start for the Pac

1030
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: twelve will affect rankings and playoff opportunities and can the

1031
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: Pac twelve teams be relevant in playing so late it's

1032
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: gonna be really hard. Um, I also did I ask

1033
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: that question? Was that a question from me? Because I

1034
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: also don't know how it's gonna affect rankings and stuff.

1035
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: Would you rather be like Oregon number thirteen, not having

1036
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: played any games and then like it can only be

1037
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: up from there or the first time you lose it?

1038
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I think that. Okay, So

1039
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve had no margin for like it was

1040
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: probably gonna take an undefeated team, like if you played

1041
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: the regular season, the only team that had a shot,

1042
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: real shot to make it. We're Oregon and USC, right,

1043
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 1: And the same is true now because they're both gonna

1044
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: be ranked coming in coming into the season. And but

1045
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: there is not just winning now because if you're gonna

1046
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: play less games, you have to be dominant, like Ohio

1047
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: State on their run to the national championship, Like you

1048
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: have to absolute just just crush people to be able

1049
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: to be in And it's gonna take coming into the

1050
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: season being being ranked, and that is Oregon in US

1051
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: they're the only people who have a legitimate shot at

1052
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: making the playoffs. Um, teams will be ranked as a

1053
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: season goes on. But yeah, I mean, where when you

1054
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: if you're trying to play for all the marbles, those

1055
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: are the only two options. Um, Speaking of Arizona players,

1056
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: is Tyler Shuck any good? That's the next question. Oh,

1057
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I had my mic on mute. I've been

1058
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: I've just been screaming yes, yes, yes, yes, you can't

1059
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: hear me. Yes. I think what's crazy is I think

1060
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: I heard I want to say it was Yogi Roth

1061
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: talking on some other podcasts somewhere, and he I think

1062
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: he said it. I think he said the thing that

1063
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: I've been trying to avoid saying, which is that Tyler

1064
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: Schuck has more tools than Herbert like now, and again,

1065
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that because I don't necessarily believe it.

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Speaker 1: You have to see for me seeing is believing on

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Speaker 1: some of that. Um, But as far as what his

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Speaker 1: skill set is and having seen him play live a

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Speaker 1: bunch of times, he's just absolutely perfect for what they're

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Speaker 1: trying to do there. So I mean, I'll look absolutely

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Speaker 1: ridiculous if he's not. But I feel very strongly that

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Speaker 1: he is the thing that could hurt him is it's

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Speaker 1: a short season and you have no room for error

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Speaker 1: and you haven't experienced quarterback backing him up that you

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Speaker 1: might want to check in on if Shuck can't get

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Speaker 1: the job done in week one, right, I mean you've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of situations like that. What do you

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Speaker 1: think of this, George? I know that this wasn't asked

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Speaker 1: of us, but I think we we should bring it up. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Jake Bentley got a captain see before they announced the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Yeah, yeah, see that. That seems weird. That

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Speaker 1: seems weird. Uh. The last question though, Ralph, if you

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Speaker 1: don't want to answer the questions until after November three,

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Speaker 1: it's fine. So question, Uh, this is from an a

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Speaker 1: s U fan. Who is a better leader Trump or

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Speaker 1: Larry Scott? Donald Trump? Donald Trump? Donald Trump has like

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Speaker 1: thirty five million people that will do whatever he says?

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Speaker 1: How many does Larry Scott have that that are not

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Speaker 1: paid directly? See? Ralph, Sometimes you make points for for

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Speaker 1: for different reasons, and it's a really freaking good point.

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Speaker 1: And that was one of them times, Bro that was

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Speaker 1: I cannot disagree with you at all. Yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: is the short answer. I would take him as pactwell

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Speaker 1: commissioner to day. Are you kidding me? Yes, yes, dude,

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Speaker 1: you you would get all the publicity. Yes, you would

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Speaker 1: have some negative but you would be available and people

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Speaker 1: would care about what what happened to you. Um. Granted,

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Speaker 1: it may not necessarily be all the people that you want,

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Speaker 1: but you you, you will get the attention that you desire.

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Speaker 1: I got a couple, I got a couple more, and

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Speaker 1: I got one that was messaged to me, and then

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Speaker 1: there was a few that replied to you. UM one.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is our purview. It says do

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Speaker 1: you think Biden is guilty of anything? I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's. Yeah, that's why I skipped over

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Speaker 1: that when I was like, I didn't even know how

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Speaker 1: to answer this question, but I I thought this one

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Speaker 1: was interesting. What position group has the toughest time catching

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Speaker 1: up after the COVID layoff and on? For You probably

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Speaker 1: know better than me, But I'm looking at these SEC

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Speaker 1: defenses and I'm thinking to myself, it's got to be

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Speaker 1: these defensive facts. Um No, I don't think so. I

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Speaker 1: think that the sec S issue has to do with

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Speaker 1: the fact that they are passing rates on first down

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Speaker 1: and overall are up to almost fifty seven as opposed

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Speaker 1: to being down closer to fifty. So the more you

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Speaker 1: passed the ball, the more you spread out in space,

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Speaker 1: it creates a bigger problem. I mean, it creates more

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Speaker 1: points and chances for your dynamic playmakers to make plays

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Speaker 1: and instead of playing running punt offense. So I think

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Speaker 1: that that's where they're struggling. I would say it's an

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Speaker 1: offensive line in the quarterbacks because especially if you have

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback, he hasn't seen very much stuff. He

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Speaker 1: needs the time on task and the officer line needs

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Speaker 1: to jail because the defense is always start faster. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's my answer to that one. There's another one on

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Speaker 1: here that he answered his own question. He said most

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Speaker 1: underrated coach Parenthesesy Smith question mark Jonathan Smith at A. Uh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: would every single Pack twelve coach if they could get

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith as their offensive coordinator would fire their offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator today? Uh? Except for Oregon with Joe. I disagree.

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Speaker 1: You think it would fired Joe moorehead to get Jonathan Smith.

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Speaker 1: Yet I don't think so. I think that there and

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Speaker 1: I think that they he carries some name cash A

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Speaker 1: helps recruiting because se Kwon Barkley played for him. He

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Speaker 1: was at Penn State. All those things that think, um yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening to the Pack twelve Apostles podcast.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time, Appreciate your energy. Catch you guys

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Speaker 1: next episode. And and and Oregon State go get t J. Green.

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Speaker 1: You can do it. Yeah,