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Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Thursday. Just got word that Bob
Speaker 2: Buker passed away at the age of ninety. We'll try
Speaker 2: to put something together for tomorrow. I don't know if
Speaker 2: we can do it in the final hour. Here bring
Speaker 2: back some of the moments. I stayed in touch with
Speaker 2: Yuke a lot. We started texting the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: and even in the off season. I would just send
Speaker 2: him a text saying I'm thinking of you. He always
Speaker 2: would have something funny to say. But the age of
Speaker 2: ninety and the number of people that he touched with
Speaker 2: his humor, going back to when he'd be on The
Speaker 2: Tonight Show and he would crack up Johnny Carson and
Speaker 2: he was just you ask him something and he had
Speaker 2: a great response. He was always fun. When we went
Speaker 2: out to Milwaukee when we did the Sausage Race, we
Speaker 2: got to spend some time with him, and he'll be
Speaker 2: greatly greatly missed just having that sense of humor. Still
Speaker 2: broadcasting games. He didn't do it on a nightly basis,
Speaker 2: but he said last text that I had, he said,
Speaker 2: let me know when you're swinging through Arizona. It'd be
Speaker 2: fun to get together again. So Bob Yuker passing away
Speaker 2: at the age of ninety. Yeah, Pulley.
Speaker 3: I always found it so almost underrated that he took
Speaker 3: a subpar baseball career. I think he played five or
Speaker 3: six years and wasn't that good when he played, and
Speaker 3: parlaid it into a monstrous media career, movies and everybody
Speaker 3: liked the guy. He was a household name. He's been
Speaker 3: a household name, I mean, one of the more popular
Speaker 3: liked people in sports and otherwise.
Speaker 2: I love that story though. When he was asked about
Speaker 2: catching a knuckleball, he said, it's not that difficult. You
Speaker 2: just wait till it stops rolling and then you pick
Speaker 2: it up. So and how do you catch a knuckleball? Oh,
Speaker 2: it's true easy, you just wait till it stops rolling.
Speaker 2: Because Yuke was a catcher and I did have this
Speaker 2: he Let me see, here's one of my last responses
Speaker 2: to him. Let me see if I've I've got that.
Speaker 2: He talked about his batting average. No, let me see.
Speaker 2: We'll get to ed Warder here in a moment ed
Speaker 2: thanks for being patient. Let's see, he says, thanks for
Speaker 2: checking in. Dan. Always good to hear from you. I
Speaker 2: hope your crew is doing well. I finally got to
Speaker 2: my batting average when he turned ninety and I said congrats,
Speaker 2: and he said two ten with runners in scoring position.
Speaker 2: We'll try to bring back you know, he was on
Speaker 2: our show a few times, so we'll try to bring
Speaker 2: back some of that humor. Uh, We'll have the backroom
Speaker 2: guys try to find that for tomorrow. I saw a
Speaker 2: tweet from ed Warder and of course always reading ed
Speaker 2: Werder's tweets, and had something to do with the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Ed is a cowboy insider for w FAA TV in Dallas.
Speaker 2: Had to do with Dion, had to do with Jerry Jones,
Speaker 2: and maybe maybe this is actually in the on deck
Speaker 2: circling could happen and Edward are kind of enough to
Speaker 2: join us. So you pique my interest with this, So
Speaker 2: explain what your tweet was all about.
Speaker 4: That was my one and only interest in tweeting Dan,
Speaker 4: was to get your attention, thank you, and to have
Speaker 4: an opportunity to make a long awaited guest appearance on
Speaker 4: the show. If you want to play golf again, let
Speaker 4: me know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've been I've been obviously following the Cowboys
Speaker 5: you know for a long time, but you know, certainly
Speaker 5: throughout this season and extending that coverage through the dismissal
Speaker 5: of Mike McCarthy, which I think surprised a lot.
Speaker 4: Of people, even those of us who cover the team
Speaker 4: on a regular basis. And you know, when you start
Speaker 4: to figuring a list of potential candidates to be the
Speaker 4: next head coach, only in Dallas do you have to
Speaker 4: make sure to include Dion Sanders and Jason Witten, former
Speaker 4: Cowboys tight end great who Jerry is enamored with, who
Speaker 4: has only coached at the high school level. Regarding Dion,
Speaker 4: obviously we know that he has not yet formally interviewed
Speaker 4: for the job. The Cowboys have extended invitations to Leslie
Speaker 4: Frazier and Robert Salah to be the first two to
Speaker 4: interview formerly for the job. But Dion told Adam Schefter
Speaker 4: the other day that Jerry Jones reached out to him
Speaker 4: and they discussed the job, and everything I continue to
Speaker 4: be told Dan is that Jerry is interested. It was
Speaker 4: described to me as he's enamored with the idea. Obviously,
Speaker 4: it's hard to imagine any coaching candidate who could create
Speaker 4: more interest someone that Jerry could more sell to the
Speaker 4: and base here, which needs to happen and make Jerry
Speaker 4: more money than Dion Sanders. I mean, he won a
Speaker 4: Super Bowl here as a player. So there are also
Speaker 4: people around Dion who tell me that he's being urged
Speaker 4: by his supporters in Colorado to take the job, and
Speaker 4: that they believe if Jerry ever does offer him the job,
Speaker 4: that he will take. That he has an extension to
Speaker 4: remain at Colorado on his desk that he hasn't even
Speaker 4: looked at as he considers these other possibilities. But you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, there are also people close to Dion who
Speaker 4: tell me they don't see it happening, but they've seen
Speaker 4: things happen with Jerry Jones that they didn't expect to
Speaker 4: happen before. And he did hire Barry Switzer, So you
Speaker 4: can't rule anything out. He's the most unpredictable owner in
Speaker 4: the NFL on any subject, especially this one.
Speaker 2: But do you think that Jerry Jones had somebody in
Speaker 2: mind when he was willing to let Mike McCarthy leave.
Speaker 4: I assume that Jerry's done this enough times. This is
Speaker 4: his eighth time that he knows before you let somebody
Speaker 4: who has some value. It has proven himself to the degree,
Speaker 4: you know, Mike McCarthy has as a head coach in
Speaker 4: this league with two different franchises that you're sure you're
Speaker 4: going to get somebody who you think is going to
Speaker 4: do a better job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I man for some reason. And I was talking
Speaker 2: to Tim Callishaw, of course he covers the Cowboys, and
Speaker 2: he said Dion was treating this as if he was
Speaker 2: offered the job.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 2: His response was, Hey, I'm honored or humboled or whatever,
Speaker 2: but I got work to do as if he was
Speaker 2: getting the job offer. And then I thought, well, maybe
Speaker 2: is Jerry doing Dion a favor by Hey, maybe we
Speaker 2: have some interest here and that helps him even more
Speaker 2: with that extension at Colorado. But you think this is real,
Speaker 2: This is something that could happen.
Speaker 4: I think it has merit, and I think when we're
Speaker 4: talking about Jerry and Dion, you always have to be
Speaker 4: wary of how this conversation could benefit each of them,
Speaker 4: and it certainly does. But I think there is a
Speaker 4: possibility of it happening. I mean, Dion apparently told Adam
Speaker 4: Schefter that he doesn't need to use the Cowboys's leverage
Speaker 4: to get what he wants at Colorado that he's him,
Speaker 4: and there's probably a lot of truth in that, given
Speaker 4: the effect he's had on that program and the attention
Speaker 4: he's brought to it and the money that's been dedicated
Speaker 4: to the program since then. But yeah, and I think
Speaker 4: a key figure if this were to go very far,
Speaker 4: would be Mike Zimmer. You know, Mike Zimmer was a
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator here this most recent season under Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 4: coached under five head coaches in Dallas, and he has
Speaker 4: not decided what he's going to do in terms of
Speaker 4: whether he wants to continue coaching or not. I think
Speaker 4: a lot of that is dependent upon what direction Jerry
Speaker 4: decides to go in hiring the next head coach. And
Speaker 4: he was certainly, almost certainly Dan be a part of
Speaker 4: it if Dion Sanders is the coach, because Mike is
Speaker 4: very close to Dion. He coached him when he was here.
Speaker 4: He was close so close to his program at Jackson
Speaker 4: State and then at Colorado that there were people speculating
Speaker 4: that Zimmer was going to be the defensive coordinator of Colorado.
Speaker 4: That never happened, but Zimmer made it clear during the
Speaker 4: season when we spoke to him that he does frequently
Speaker 4: still speak to Dion Sanders, so I'm sure he would
Speaker 4: be heavily involved in that. And it's interesting that he
Speaker 4: has made no mention or or offered no decision on
Speaker 4: his future.
Speaker 2: Okay, but we've talked about Jerry and he hires coaches
Speaker 2: that are submissive and malleable, and that's not Dion. So
Speaker 2: is Jerry finally maybe coming around to that I need
Speaker 2: to have somebody be a head coach, act like a
Speaker 2: head coach and not be looking over their shoulder constantly.
Speaker 4: Well, do you think that Jerry would think that there's
Speaker 4: not room for him to influence Dion Sanders, who's never
Speaker 4: coached at the NFL level, on how he views his
Speaker 4: best route to being successful. I think Jerry would see
Speaker 4: this as a very a very positive opportunity for him
Speaker 4: to influence the way Dion Sanders coaches Jerry's football team.
Speaker 4: Now was interesting that during the season, when Jerry was
Speaker 4: first asked about dionni you know, he praised him as
Speaker 4: one of his favorite players of all time, and you
Speaker 4: know his competitiveness that he brought to the team, but
Speaker 4: he also sort of dismissed his value as a head
Speaker 4: coach in the NFL, because he said, what Dion offers,
Speaker 4: now that's most attractive and most influences his success at
Speaker 4: CU at the college level is his ability to recruit,
Speaker 4: and that's not going to be a significant part of
Speaker 4: his success in the NFL should he opt to coach
Speaker 4: in the NFL.
Speaker 2: And that's true.
Speaker 4: I mean, you he could influence free agents, but the
Speaker 4: Cowboys have not been heavily involved in free agency in
Speaker 4: recent years, to their own detriment. Quite honestly. You know,
Speaker 4: they were the last team to sign a player four
Speaker 4: out of the last five years. So it was interesting
Speaker 4: to me that Jerry thought that was the most unique
Speaker 4: ability Dion possessed and that it would not be a
Speaker 4: significant factor in whether he succeeded at the NFL level.
Speaker 2: Did Mike McCarthy want out?
Speaker 4: That's not the sense I got. I mean, when the
Speaker 4: season ended, he was unequivocal and very public about the
Speaker 4: fact that his goal in the next few days was
Speaker 4: to remain in Dallas. He said he had made an
Speaker 4: investment in Dallas, the Cowboys had made an investment in him.
Speaker 7: I think his.
Speaker 4: Family wanted to be here. I sincerely think Mike McCarthy
Speaker 4: wanted and expected it to work out, and I don't
Speaker 4: know that we fully understand the real reasons.
Speaker 2: It did great to talk to you always, Ed, Thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 2: Ann ed Werder covers the Cowboys for w FAA in Dallas'
Speaker 2: longtime contributor to ESPN. So I guess it's real real ish,
Speaker 2: But that's I just you already have enough eyeballs on
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. So it's not like, hey, we got Dion now.
Speaker 2: You know, if the Jags hired him and then you'd say, man,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get some publicity here, you already got publicity.
Speaker 2: Colorado needs Dion. Dallas doesn't need Dion, you know, with
Speaker 2: the attention that he would bring. Man, do you imagine
Speaker 2: I can't imagine Dion going Man, I don't know anything
Speaker 2: about coaching. Let me listen to Jerry Jones about this.
Speaker 2: What does Jerry know about coaching in the NFL? Well,
Speaker 2: Jerry knows business. I'll give him that. He's a great businessman,
Speaker 2: and I think he loves that. You know, there's constant
Speaker 2: chatter about the Cowboy. But if they don't get Ben Johnson, like,
Speaker 2: who are they getting? Who wants that job? Who is
Speaker 2: equipped to take that job? Dion is equipped to take
Speaker 2: the job. From the standpoint of, Hey, I can go
Speaker 2: to the press conference. I can win a press conference.
Speaker 2: I can take Jerry. I know what to do with Jerry.
Speaker 2: It comes down to this for me, what are you
Speaker 2: going to do with Dak Prescott thirty two injury prone
Speaker 2: immobile and you owe him two hundred and thirty one
Speaker 2: million dollars. That's the big problem. A couple of phone
Speaker 2: calls in here. David in Ohio, Hi David, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Dan, I heard you talking about the auger. I know
Speaker 8: that those are made for digging holes and stuff, So
Speaker 8: I thought maybe he could install yourself a new mailbox
Speaker 8: or something like that.
Speaker 7: That'd be fun.
Speaker 8: Second thing is if they hire Dion Sanders, I think
Speaker 8: in his contract Jerry jonesy to put yeah off. Looked
Speaker 8: sunshade up at AT and T Stadium.
Speaker 2: So thank you, all right, thank you, David. Well, Deane
Speaker 2: wear sunglasses so he won't be bothered by the glare
Speaker 2: Texas Stadium. Garrett in Wisconsin, Hi, Garrett, what's on your
Speaker 2: mind today?
Speaker 9: He had six? So I'm just calling and talking about
Speaker 9: Bob Buker, you know, legendary Brewers Radio announcer very sad
Speaker 9: about his passing at some One of my favorite moments
Speaker 9: U wasn't when the Brewers would you know, make it
Speaker 9: to the playoffs or whatever it was. It was when
Speaker 9: he was in the clubhouse getting beard poured on his
Speaker 9: head and doing the ripcord dance, celebrating with the team.
Speaker 9: Grew up listening to him with my dad in the summers,
Speaker 9: is on the radio, working outside, and those are some
Speaker 9: of my best memories of Bob Buker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're listening on the radio, I mean, that's
Speaker 2: when you really establish a relationship with a play by
Speaker 2: play person. That's when that person is your person. You know, TV,
Speaker 2: it's different radio. You know, you're listening there in the background.
Speaker 2: You know, growing up you'd listen listen on a transistor
Speaker 2: radio and that became your friend. That was your friend
Speaker 2: talking to just you. It felt like and there was
Speaker 2: you know, the great it felt like synergy between that
Speaker 2: play by play voice on the radio, especially with baseball
Speaker 2: because there's so many games and at night and you
Speaker 2: feel like he's talking to you. Norman, Florida High Norm
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 10: Hey, Dan six two two fifteen. I met Bob A
Speaker 10: couple of times at spring training, so you probably heard these.
Speaker 10: I just wanted to honor him with a couple of
Speaker 10: quick quotes that I really like. He said, when I
Speaker 10: came up to bat with the bases loaded and two
Speaker 10: outs in the night, I looked and the other team's
Speaker 10: dugout and they were already in street clothes. And then
Speaker 10: he had one. In nineteen sixty two, I was named
Speaker 10: Minor League Player of the Year, and it was my
Speaker 10: second season in.
Speaker 11: The Biggs, and then I just got two more.
Speaker 10: He had to go when I when I looked at
Speaker 10: the third base coach, he always turned his back on me.
Speaker 10: And one of my favorite ones is his last one.
Speaker 10: He talked about I signed a very modest three thousand
Speaker 10: dollars bonus with the Braves in Milwaukee, and my old
Speaker 10: man didn't really have that money to put out.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Norm. Yeah, we'll try to put something together tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We don't have the time in the final hour to
Speaker 2: pay tribute, you know, a full tribute to the passing
Speaker 2: of Bob Yuker. By the way, Sunday Sunday playoffs continue
Speaker 2: the divisional round. It's Matthew Stafford and the Rams. They
Speaker 2: go to Philly take on the Eagles. The winner one
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Speaker 2: ask him that is Alma Mater playing in the National
Speaker 2: title game? I believe my sun is set to go
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame. And also we'll ask Bussy about his
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. He'll join us coming up here in the
Speaker 2: on deck circle. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2: if you're just joining us. Mister Baseball, Bob Buker passed
Speaker 2: away at the age of ninety. We'll try to cobble
Speaker 2: together some of the interviews that we did with Bob
Speaker 2: over the years. We'll bring that to you on tomorrow's program.
Speaker 2: He's Jerome Bettis, the Hall of Fame running back won
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl and a former running back out of
Speaker 2: Notre Dame nineteen ninety three draft. I believe do you
Speaker 2: see your jersey behind me?
Speaker 7: I see it. I love it. I love That's all
Speaker 7: school right there.
Speaker 2: That's Rams Jerome Bettis.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Where do you want that back? Do you want that bet?
Speaker 13: No? Hey, I appreciate you displaying it proudly.
Speaker 7: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: How many jerseys do you have? Do you collect jerseys?
Speaker 7: I do have. I do have some. Yeah, I've got
Speaker 7: I've got a few.
Speaker 13: But but what I did was I collected them as
Speaker 13: I was playing from different players. You know, we would
Speaker 13: trade jerseys and stuff like that, so I didn't do
Speaker 13: much like buying jerseys or anything like that. It were
Speaker 13: all given to me at one time or another.
Speaker 2: All right, give me an idea of who you have
Speaker 2: what jerseys?
Speaker 13: I mean, my I guess my pride and enjoy would be, uh,
Speaker 13: Jim Brown. I mean I didn't play with him, but
Speaker 13: he you know, he signed it and everything for me.
Speaker 13: Marshall fall I'm trying to think Barry Sanders. It was
Speaker 13: a lot of running backs as I think about it,
Speaker 13: But the problem is I don't have them displayed. My
Speaker 13: wife didn't let me put any of my jerseys up
Speaker 13: in the house.
Speaker 7: So I so wait, wait you here.
Speaker 13: Here's what you got to understand. It's some battles that's
Speaker 13: not worth fighting.
Speaker 7: And you gotta know.
Speaker 13: I'm smart enough to know that was not a fight
Speaker 13: that I was willing to put out a lot of
Speaker 13: capital on.
Speaker 2: Okay, but do you have defensive players that you swamped
Speaker 2: jerseys with?
Speaker 13: No, I've got I swapped. I swapped with Lacker, his shoes,
Speaker 13: our shoes.
Speaker 7: Like in the last one of the last playoff games,
Speaker 7: we we traded shoes. So that was pretty unique. But
Speaker 7: it was one of those one time things. I didn't
Speaker 7: do that very often.
Speaker 2: All righty, let's start with your alma mater. What do
Speaker 2: you expect to happen on Monday night.
Speaker 13: I expect to be a very close game.
Speaker 7: I think a lot of people will think it's gonna
Speaker 7: be a blowout, is I don't. I don't see that
Speaker 7: being the case.
Speaker 13: I think when you look at the teams that Ohio
Speaker 13: State struggled with, the team that had a lot of physicality,
Speaker 13: and I think that's what Notre Dame brings to the table.
Speaker 13: Physicality at the point of attack. They're going to run
Speaker 13: the football, they're going to be physical on defense. Now,
Speaker 13: I will say we're at a bit of a disadvantage
Speaker 13: because you know, our best defensive lineman he's he got hurt, uh,
Speaker 13: you know, in the first playoff game, and.
Speaker 7: So we don't.
Speaker 13: We're not as strong as we were up front. Uh,
Speaker 13: that's a little bit of an issue. But you know
Speaker 13: we we we played them a couple of years ago
Speaker 13: and you know, back to back years or one off together,
Speaker 13: and they were competitive football games. Right. We lost there
Speaker 13: at the end of both games, and so it tells
Speaker 13: you that we can play with him. That's not the issue.
Speaker 13: The key is we can't give up big plays on defense,
Speaker 13: and we have to create some big plays on offense.
Speaker 13: I don't see us going eighty yards down the field
Speaker 13: every single drive, so we've got to open that offense
Speaker 13: up a little bit and throw it down the field
Speaker 13: and be successful.
Speaker 2: You're going to the game, yes, definitely.
Speaker 13: It's in Atlanta, and I live in Atlanta, so there's
Speaker 13: no way I would not be at that one.
Speaker 2: And is your son going to Notre Dame?
Speaker 7: My son is en road. Yes, so he's a mid
Speaker 7: year freshman.
Speaker 13: So we literally just dropped him off last weekend.
Speaker 7: Notre Dame. So we're real excited for him.
Speaker 2: Did you cry when you dropped him off?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 7: I didn't cry what I dropped him off?
Speaker 13: Fortunately for us, his big sister she goes to Notre
Speaker 13: Dame as well, so it gave us a sense of well,
Speaker 13: gave me a sense of comfort knowing that his big
Speaker 13: sister was there on campus. And my wife, on the
Speaker 13: other hand, she left a day or so after me,
Speaker 13: so there was some crying.
Speaker 7: I do understand in that department.
Speaker 2: He's Jerome Betti's Hall of Fame running back. The running
Speaker 2: back is back bus. What happened in the NFL.
Speaker 7: See, let me tell you what happened it running back
Speaker 7: never left.
Speaker 13: The problem was you couldn't find those franchise running backs.
Speaker 13: And let me tell you why. So in college they
Speaker 13: changed the game and the sense of they went to
Speaker 13: these four wide receivers and they went to this smaller
Speaker 13: bag so they can go laterally down You know, all
Speaker 13: the running in colleges lateral. It's nothing downhill. So they
Speaker 13: went to little bitty, small running back. The problem is
Speaker 13: the NFL doesn't want little bit smart running backs.
Speaker 7: They still want power football downhill.
Speaker 13: And at some point you couldn't find the running backs,
Speaker 13: right if they're not coming from five or six schools,
Speaker 13: you know, the Georgia's, Alabama's, the SEC schools, maybe Wisconsin
Speaker 13: or Notre Dame every now and then maybe at Ohio
Speaker 13: State or Michigan running back. But outside of that, you're
Speaker 13: not getting running backs from all over the country like
Speaker 13: you used to. And so as a result, the NFL
Speaker 13: had to go to say, you know what, we'll figure
Speaker 13: it out. We'll go with these guys who can We'll
Speaker 13: get four guys who can do what one guy could do.
Speaker 13: And that's what kind of happened that and you start
Speaker 13: having to pay your tight end and the second receiver,
Speaker 13: and that money has to come from somewhere.
Speaker 7: So they say, you know.
Speaker 13: What, since we can't find the franchise running back, let's
Speaker 13: pay these other guys and if we find one, great,
Speaker 13: If we don't, we.
Speaker 2: Don't Which running back is more prominent in his team's success,
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry or Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 7: Oh, that's a good question. That's a great question.
Speaker 13: I would have to say Saquon Barkley because we have
Speaker 13: seen what the Baltimore.
Speaker 7: Offense can do without Henry. It's not as.
Speaker 13: Explosive, but they are darn good without them, right so,
Speaker 13: and they've gotten to the same level of success. Now
Speaker 13: when you look at Philly, they're not as good as
Speaker 13: they've been in the past. If you take sa Kuon
Speaker 13: Barkley off of that football team, I don't know if
Speaker 13: they make the playoffs because they're just not clicking from
Speaker 13: a passing game perspective. And so with that being said,
Speaker 13: if you don't have Saquon Barkler there, they don't have.
Speaker 7: I don't think a chance.
Speaker 2: Is Derrick Henry a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 7: Not a question about it.
Speaker 13: He's what he's been able to do over the years
Speaker 13: that he's been been in the NFL.
Speaker 7: I believe he's Hall of Fame worthy.
Speaker 13: Uh So, I don't know what that looks like, but
Speaker 13: I do believe he has all of the characteristics if
Speaker 13: his if his career ended tomorrow, I think he definitely
Speaker 13: would be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: What's wrong with your Steelers?
Speaker 13: I think they haven't been able to offensively get it
Speaker 13: figured out. They need a second receiver, a big time receiver.
Speaker 13: They don't have one on the other side of George Pickens.
Speaker 13: They've got to figure.
Speaker 7: Out about George Pickens in terms of can he be
Speaker 7: the player that they need.
Speaker 13: Him to be right on the field, off the field,
Speaker 13: all those things, and so I think they have to
Speaker 13: sit down with him and and get get that figured out.
Speaker 7: I think also you got to figure out the quarterback position.
Speaker 13: I think Russell is a good quarterback for the time,
Speaker 13: but I think the problem is he's not a long
Speaker 13: term solution to the issue. They have got to figure
Speaker 13: out a long term solution at the quarterback position. And
Speaker 13: a lot of you hear a lot of talking heads
Speaker 13: speaking about the coach.
Speaker 7: And this and that. You in the NFL, we've seen
Speaker 7: this now.
Speaker 13: This record is not you know new If you do
Speaker 13: not have a quarterback in the NFL, you are not
Speaker 13: going to win in the playoffs. That is a That's
Speaker 13: what we know for sure. And right now the Stiller
Speaker 13: have gone through this window of time where they've been
Speaker 13: trying to figure out the quarterback situation and they have failed.
Speaker 7: They have not gotten it right. So I think that's
Speaker 7: what they got to figure out.
Speaker 13: I think if you put Russell in a position where
Speaker 13: he's got two really good receivers, a really good offensive line,
Speaker 13: a good running back, he can be successful. But to
Speaker 13: ask Russell Wilson to carry this football team on his
Speaker 13: back at the quarterback position, I think it's unfair to
Speaker 13: him at the stage in his career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but bussy, I got to put some of this
Speaker 2: on Mike Tomlin that, yeah, you get to the playoffs,
Speaker 2: he's helping try to get a quarterback. I don't think
Speaker 2: it like he's powerful in that organization. So Mike's involved
Speaker 2: in this. So if you're involved, like you can say,
Speaker 2: we got to get a quarterback, Well, I got to
Speaker 2: blame put some of the blame on Tomlin that you
Speaker 2: haven't found a quarterback.
Speaker 7: Well, here's what you have to do.
Speaker 13: If Tomlin was picking all the players, I would say, Okay,
Speaker 13: another piece of this puzzle is you have to commit resources,
Speaker 13: right and so that means you've got to give up
Speaker 13: a couple first round picks, right. Well, the Steelers, the
Speaker 13: draft is very instrumental in how they build their football team.
Speaker 13: So this is not a head coach decision in terms
Speaker 13: of what they will have to do in terms of
Speaker 13: draft capital to go up and get a quarter up. Now,
Speaker 13: maybe they haven't seen a quarterback that it's worth, you know,
Speaker 13: packaging and mortgaging the future on.
Speaker 7: And I get that that may be the.
Speaker 13: Case, but I believe because of I mean, their prisoner
Speaker 13: of coach Tomlin's success, because they don't have to lose
Speaker 13: the season, they're picking anywhere from eighteen to twenty five
Speaker 13: to twenty seven. You're not going to get a quarterback there, right,
Speaker 13: And so because in the last seventeen years or whatever
Speaker 13: it is, they have been there, that's where they're drafted.
Speaker 13: So they've got to make a fundamental decision on how.
Speaker 7: Do we get the quarterback in there?
Speaker 13: The one year when I was there that everything fell apart,
Speaker 13: and I think it was probably been only year that
Speaker 13: we were, you know, under five hundred with coach Kward
Speaker 13: it was six and ten. We got being that year, right,
Speaker 13: And so you don't get that's the situation. You're not
Speaker 13: able to get that quarterback. And so I think at
Speaker 13: the end of the day, there has to be some
Speaker 13: high level discussions on are we willing to commit multiple
Speaker 13: first round picks to go get the quarterback that we need.
Speaker 13: Now they're trying to get players that have gone from
Speaker 13: team to team, and for the most part, some of
Speaker 13: these guys, their careers are more behind them than ahead
Speaker 13: of them, right, and you're not going to solve the
Speaker 13: problem with that type of uh scenario. You can, you
Speaker 13: can get from year to year, but it's not sustainable
Speaker 13: at the quarterback position. And that's the difficult, difficult part
Speaker 13: of the scenario that the stealers are red.
Speaker 2: It's Ben Roethlisberger still the best quarterback in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7: That's a good one. No, I definite don't believe so.
Speaker 7: I though he's he's still throwing it. He's still throwing
Speaker 7: it to his kids in the backyard.
Speaker 10: But I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know if we can put him out of
Speaker 7: a target and go for it.
Speaker 2: Uh, have fun on Monday night there and uh, good
Speaker 2: to good to catch up with you again. Bussy.
Speaker 7: Hey, thank you man.
Speaker 13: And you could have had any jersey you want it
Speaker 13: at that spot you put mine.
Speaker 7: I'm honored, thank you so much. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: The l A Ram Jerome Bettis, thank you, buddy, Take
Speaker 2: care all right. Hall of Famer. Yeah, nineteen ninety three
Speaker 2: draft pick out of Notre Dame. He wore number six.
Speaker 2: There with the fighting hours, Bussy would be featured now today,
Speaker 2: you know with these running backs. But he does bring
Speaker 2: up something interesting that college is five wide. Now it's
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks were completing sixty five seventy percent of their
Speaker 2: passes and you're not winning with just power football. Yeah.
Speaker 14: Morph When I was a kid, in my head, he
Speaker 14: was the trendsetter because he was like the big running
Speaker 14: back and you had guys like Natron Means and bam More's,
Speaker 14: you had the poor man's Jerome Betticies, So he was
Speaker 14: a trendset at least when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: Natron Means Yeah, Yeah, it felt like you had to
Speaker 2: have one of those guys, whether it's you know, a
Speaker 2: first and second down running back and then maybe you
Speaker 2: had somebody who came in and or you had two
Speaker 2: running backs in the backfield. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 3: And it's weird because Jerome played a lot of fullback.
Speaker 3: He was the blocking back on some play. Then he'd
Speaker 3: switched to be the tailback because they had a lot
Speaker 3: of tailbacks at Notre Dame. Plus, wearing six made him
Speaker 3: look faster than he was with a sleeker number, and
Speaker 3: it made Bussy look faster.
Speaker 2: Let's see Jim in Michigan. Hi, Jim, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6: Thank you for taking my call?
Speaker 11: Six one two twenty six.
Speaker 6: Man, I just wanted to mention if anybody hasn't had
Speaker 6: the pleasure of watching you Kurt address the Cooper Sound
Speaker 6: crowd when he was brought in there. It is the
Speaker 6: funniest damp thing.
Speaker 7: I bet you.
Speaker 9: I've watched it half a dozen.
Speaker 6: Times and it's just it goes way beyond the Johnny
Speaker 6: Carson days.
Speaker 7: He was just just wonderful. It was a great presentation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he became famous for not being famous, and uh
Speaker 2: he was so uh self deprecating. I mean he kind
Speaker 2: of invented it. You know, when you're making fun of
Speaker 2: what you weren't. He would have loved to have the
Speaker 2: Mendoza line for his batting average. He would have been like, Ah,
Speaker 2: I'm killing it. I'm batt in two hundred here he
Speaker 2: was a one ninety guy. All Right, we'll take a break,
Speaker 2: last call for phone calls, what we learn, what's in
Speaker 2: store tomorrow. Also the gambling podcast that'll be coming up.
Speaker 2: It'll be available at Danpatrick dot com this afternoon. Shayan
Speaker 2: Irving will give his thoughts on the uh I guess,
Speaker 2: the dismissal of Mike McCarthy, the parting of ways that'll
Speaker 2: be on the podcast coming up a little bit later on.
Speaker 2: We're back after this.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2: Last call for Phone Calls, What we learn, What's in
Speaker 2: store tomorrow, Dan and the Dan Nuts. Caleb Williams was
Speaker 2: on A'man Ross Saint Brown's podcast, and Uh, I'm on
Speaker 2: Ross Saint Brown asked Caleb Williams about what he wanted
Speaker 2: as the Bear's next head coach.
Speaker 15: Coach selfishly, I want an offensive minded guy so I
Speaker 15: can build with him and be with that coach for
Speaker 15: the next nineteen seventeen fifteen years, and so I can
Speaker 15: also learn.
Speaker 7: And grow and you know, things like that from.
Speaker 15: Him and what he's seen and what he you know,
Speaker 15: what he's gone through with you know, maybe other qbs.
Speaker 7: Or been around.
Speaker 2: Okay, Cat Williams should have said the following to i'mon
Speaker 2: Ross Saint Brown, what if I wanted to coach? I
Speaker 2: want your offensive coordinator. That's what I want to coach selfishly,
Speaker 2: and I'd like maybe a couple of offensive linemen. That's
Speaker 2: what I would like, all right. The last call for
Speaker 2: phone Calls, Bob in Montana. Hi Bob, welcome back.
Speaker 11: Oh hey DP, two quick things here. Your final caller
Speaker 11: on Monday said he was a semi finalist for Survivor,
Speaker 11: and actually back in two thousand and four, I was
Speaker 11: a semi finalist as well. That one of my buddies
Speaker 11: worked on the show for eight seasons. He's on that
Speaker 11: Christmas card that I sent you guys. So if that
Speaker 11: caller wants an edge, I'd be happy to relay my
Speaker 11: experiences in the interview process and then maybe that way
Speaker 11: at least somebody from Deep Nation will get on the show.
Speaker 11: And then second, my daughter and I actually go ice
Speaker 11: fishing quite a bit. Historically, you guys take off the
Speaker 11: final the week after the Super Bowl, So I was
Speaker 11: just gonna invite you out if you wanted to come
Speaker 11: out to Montana after that, I will take you out
Speaker 11: to Georgetown Lake, which is just right down the street
Speaker 11: from where you go on your big fly fishing trips
Speaker 11: in the summer with your brother.
Speaker 2: Well, I first have to conquer the state of Maine
Speaker 2: before I'm going to branch out conquer. Yeah, I have
Speaker 2: to conquer Maine and then maybe I'll start to look
Speaker 2: seek out other states to conquer.
Speaker 1: The challenges.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Scott in Scottsdale. Hi Scott and Scottsdale.
Speaker 16: Hey Dan, I'm a little out of my geographical element
Speaker 16: with respect to where Bob lives and where you are
Speaker 16: right now. But a couple of things about ice fishing.
Speaker 16: If you can make sure using your ardor that's at
Speaker 16: least four inches thick, you're in pretty good shape. You
Speaker 16: also want like a blue and clear ice. So what's
Speaker 16: usually an indication that's sticking up to skate across and
Speaker 16: worstate scenario is if you do find yourself in the water,
Speaker 16: if you have the picks and you can put them
Speaker 16: as horizontally apart from you as possible, we'll kicking your legs.
Speaker 16: You can usually float up enough where you can pull
Speaker 16: yourself up until the said ledge and you have a
Speaker 16: little capability.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Scott. Yes, I am checking with the locals.
Speaker 2: They tell me about what the ice needs to look like,
Speaker 2: and then you know and usually you know what. Here's
Speaker 2: my rule of thumb. If I see trucks that are
Speaker 2: parked on the lake, then I realize that it probably
Speaker 2: can hold me, me and my dog. So we're probably
Speaker 2: about two hundred and fifty pounds combined there, So I
Speaker 2: think we'll be we'll be okay if I and also
Speaker 2: I follow tracks. If I go on the ice and
Speaker 2: there's snow, I just follow where there's people tracks and
Speaker 2: uh and let's I'm walking and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: those tracks disappear. Yes, yes, would.
Speaker 17: You follow the big guy.
Speaker 3: Let's say a bunch of people are walking on the
Speaker 3: ice when you stand like ten feet behind the biggest guy,
Speaker 3: because if he's okay, you're okay.
Speaker 2: If it's like if a bear was chasing me and
Speaker 2: I was with Todd, I'd feel really good because I'll
Speaker 2: run faster. I'll run faster than Todd, guaranteed that's fair.
Speaker 2: And then the bear bear will be, you know, taking
Speaker 2: care of Todd, and I'll be running away, getting ready
Speaker 2: to grab my auger. Uh Andy in Rhode Island, High Andy, Hey.
Speaker 16: Good morning, Dan Dennis.
Speaker 13: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Marvin Pritzy?
Speaker 18: Then I actually have a personal question. I know you
Speaker 18: had to wait with you late with the ladies back
Speaker 18: in the day with that voice, But what did you
Speaker 18: figure out that you actually had.
Speaker 2: A radio voice?
Speaker 8: This silky dad, let me tell.
Speaker 18: You, when it comes to the speakers, it is killing it,
Speaker 18: and I'm surprised more ladies aren't calling.
Speaker 5: I.
Speaker 2: They're probably intimidated, though, I think I think that's probably
Speaker 2: the kindest thing that I could say about it. Andy, it's, uh,
Speaker 2: you can't buy this. You can't just lucky. You got
Speaker 2: to have this voice and you have to have this
Speaker 2: hair and uh, it's that's a combo platter. It's like
Speaker 2: having you know, power and speed. Yes, Todd, it's like
Speaker 2: those supermodels.
Speaker 19: They go in the trusts and say, no, I'm not
Speaker 19: dating anybody. No one's interested in me. I can't find anybody.
Speaker 2: No one approaches Well no, no, I was telling the truth.
Speaker 2: Nobody was interested in me.
Speaker 19: But it's the intimidation factor of the voice though. It
Speaker 19: is what he was getting at.
Speaker 2: That's why, Todd Todd, if I went, Hi, how are you? Hey,
Speaker 2: I just want to I just want to say lo
Speaker 2: yeah it myself. Thank you. Tom.
Speaker 19: I know I'm not the problem for I.
Speaker 2: Know guys would get excited when I would talk to them.
Speaker 2: That's a problem. Hey, could you get me a beer? Hey?
Speaker 2: I know that voice. Yeah, I'll bet you do. Yeah.
Speaker 17: See, I just had a conversation while waiting to pick
Speaker 17: up my son from soccer the other day another dad
Speaker 17: that I know very very well.
Speaker 2: Great guy.
Speaker 17: He's just like, hey, so how's Dan doing?
Speaker 2: Good? God?
Speaker 17: What a voice? What a voice?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty good. You guys take it
Speaker 2: for granted. It's true. I mean, imagine if I had
Speaker 2: a high pitched voice and you had to listen to
Speaker 2: it every day for three hours. Instead, you get to
Speaker 2: listen to.
Speaker 19: This and he asks us great questions too.
Speaker 2: That yeah, oh he does, he does. Yeah. He doesn't
Speaker 2: look as good as he sounds though, that's part of that.
Speaker 17: It would be a lot different though, if you like
Speaker 17: you s as Jerome vettis, like, uh, you know, if.
Speaker 12: Ben Roethlisberger is still the best quarterback.
Speaker 17: In Pittsburgh, I would I don't listen. I've heard some
Speaker 17: shows like that. I'm aware of some shows, Like I
Speaker 17: was in Chicago, I covered that team.
Speaker 2: Oh go to d Wow hring back.
Speaker 17: A jam, Late Lake Jams.
Speaker 14: What that's the should have thrown them this day in
Speaker 14: sports history.
Speaker 2: Got to get it back together after that Dad.
Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty one, Mickey Mandl signed the highest one season
Speaker 3: contract in baseball history, seventy five thousand dollars in nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty one and uh oh, nineteen eighty eight, the Saint
Speaker 3: Louis Cardinals announced they're moving to Phoenix. Michael Jordan ninety
Speaker 3: three had sixty four points against your Orlando Magic.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez our guest yesterday through three touchdown passes on
Speaker 2: this day, Jets upset. The Patriots went to the AFC title?
Speaker 2: Todd Wood? Did you learn today?
Speaker 19: Jerome Bettis isn't sure the Eagles even make the playoffs
Speaker 19: of Saquon wasn't in their backfield?
Speaker 2: Seaton, What did you learn today?
Speaker 17: Uh, Bussy's got another domer in the family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, son, going there, mar.
Speaker 19: Then the Patriots played a playoff game on a Saturday.
Speaker 2: Against the Texans.
Speaker 3: Paulie, would you learn Collinsworth pulled a hammy at the
Speaker 3: thirty eight yard mark?
Speaker 2: Todd Wood, I learn today we all learned.
Speaker 19: You got an augur to go ice fishing in Maine.
Speaker 19: But thankfully the wife said no to you getting a chainsaw.
Speaker 2: For right now.
Speaker 19: Okay, it's still up in the air.
Speaker 2: I think if she sees how I treat the auger,
Speaker 2: then she'll say, all right, you get a chainsaw. Look
Speaker 2: forward to talking to you tomorrow. Take care