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Speaker 3: her Collins off, of course, is New Year's Day. Happy

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Speaker 3: New Year at everybody. Rob Parker from the Odd Couple.

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Speaker 3: You hear us seven to ten eastern Monday through Friday

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Speaker 3: the former All pro safety carry Roads.

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Speaker 4: Yes, what's up, my man?

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Speaker 5: They did a better job already, Carrie Rhodes and not

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Speaker 5: Carrie Washington.

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Speaker 3: I was a little shook the other night, but we

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Speaker 3: were doing the show. You know, I know who you are. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and uh yes, the big show the next three hours

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Speaker 3: to get involved in. We also want to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: It's a New Year's Day, a lot going on. We

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Speaker 3: will throw out Rob G. Rob G is our producer.

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Speaker 3: He of course produces the Odd Couple USC. Chris is

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Speaker 3: engineer today, so we got the crew working on a

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Speaker 3: holiday and uh, Rob G and Chris, what's happening?

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year to you guys. Happy New Year. It

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Speaker 4: is wonderful to be in the Year of Horse. Is

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Speaker 4: that horse?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 4: The horse?

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Speaker 5: So mister ed has made a comeback? Is that what

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Speaker 5: we're he next? He's gonna come in later in the year.

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Speaker 5: He's not coming right.

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Speaker 7: Don't spoil our hour three special guests. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 7: I just wanted to make sure, all right, Uh Carrie.

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Speaker 7: Obviously college football.

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Speaker 3: Playoff the big game last night, yep, Ohio State Miami.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what you got? How shocked were you? I was

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Speaker 4: not shocked at all. Rob.

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Speaker 5: I actually told my host on Sundays nine from two

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Speaker 5: to five pm Pacific Standard time, Dan Byer. He's an

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Speaker 5: Ohio State fan, obviously, and I told him to watch

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Speaker 5: out for this game. I thought Miami had enough defense,

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Speaker 5: enough pass rush to affect Ohio State. And I mean

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Speaker 5: they have something to prove, right, They were one of

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Speaker 5: the last teams, and I think they were the last

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Speaker 5: been they were at one point.

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Speaker 4: In the year considered the best team in football. So

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Speaker 5: You lose a game here in the regular season and

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Speaker 5: you think that team can't win. That team was more

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Speaker 5: than capable of winning, and they showed that last night.

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Speaker 4: But is that what we have or is this what college.

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Speaker 3: Football has made happen, which is putting all these teams

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Speaker 3: in teams taking bys. I mean, let's just be honest,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not making any excuses because Miami dominates. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they the first half, Uh Ohio State was lucky to

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Speaker 4: Am I right? They fumbled in the red zone early.

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Speaker 3: I think their first possession, they should have been up

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Speaker 4: Score three scores at least easy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and when Miami scored in the second half, the

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Speaker 4: Whatever? But I'm my point is.

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Speaker 4: Teams that get buys in the first round. They haven't

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Speaker 4: won six new format. I haven't won the game yet.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me. I'm not used to being up so early

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Speaker 4: But oh to five, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And five, Ohio State hadn't played football carry you're the

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Speaker 3: former football player. Yep, in twenty five days. Yes, you

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Speaker 3: can't tell me that doesn't affect you. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: making excuses because last year Ohio State was the number

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Speaker 3: We saw this in baseball a couple of years ago too,

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Speaker 4: Oh I don't believe. No, No, Rob, Listen, I want to

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Speaker 5: Think that they're not happy that Ohio State is No,

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Speaker 5: it's not about yes, I understand Ohio State as the

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Speaker 5: brand being out. That's a problem, I hear you. But

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Speaker 5: not be as celebrated as in Ohio State or whatever

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Speaker 5: we're talking about Miami they are. So I'm not saying them,

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Speaker 5: but in general, you want people to believe that that

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Speaker 5: good from that perspective. Now, as far as the brand

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Speaker 5: that's another storyline. But I don't think it hurts the support.

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Speaker 5: I think it actually helps them.

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Speaker 3: See I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree, and I'll go to

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Speaker 3: I'll go to college basketball.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, we want to Cinderellers. Okay, okay, we want

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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying in general, with the brands, the

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Speaker 4: Great people love Cinderella in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Okay, yes, a couple of years ago, and I

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Speaker 4: The lowest rate in people. The blue bloods were Florida Atlantic. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: The blue bloods weren't involved or whatever, and the ratings

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Speaker 3: Ohio State is your top brand and your top school

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Speaker 4: This is not I don't think what they really wanted.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the problem with that or the solution

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Speaker 5: like they shouldn't be right. Teams that won their conferences

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Speaker 5: when you talk about the problems of what that playoff

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Speaker 4: It's about the receding of it. Miami is not a

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Speaker 5: They're a really good football team and had a couple

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Speaker 3: Right, but the slip ups or that's why you play

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Speaker 4: Don't don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying, uh, Cinderella stories or a team

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Speaker 3: and and I just think for Ohio State. And then

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Speaker 3: again we can start talking about the college football and

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Speaker 3: what matters having a cupcake schedule playing people, and then

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Speaker 4: All good schools.

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Speaker 3: So that's another thing, dude, that we hear at USC,

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Speaker 3: then and then what happens when you play the big dogs.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna get You're gonna get a rood awakening.

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Speaker 3: That kind of people kind of like questioned the Ohio

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Speaker 3: in Miami and they really they dominated that game like

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Speaker 4: He was throwing hospital passes.

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Speaker 3: Am I right, like like just flinging, like guys open

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Speaker 5: He could have just ran and got a first down.

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Speaker 5: It was third and two. They were trying to third

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Speaker 5: and just like his internal clocks messed up. He didn't

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Speaker 5: so they would have been fine, but he was rattled.

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Speaker 5: That passed rust from rubyen Bain and those guys from

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Speaker 5: Miami was just relentless all night, so.

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Speaker 4: They were It's a huge upset.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and I talk about this only from the

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Speaker 3: we're talking about Vegas. Doesn't give you nine and a

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Speaker 3: major Yeah, No, that's a major upset. It is where

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Speaker 3: enough that Ohio State won last year. Now they're gonna,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, roll off a couple of

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just talking about from that standpoint.

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Speaker 5: From that standpoint, yes, they started out, I think rob

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Speaker 5: I think they were double digits favorites going into that game,

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Speaker 5: but around game time, if you looked at it, that

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Speaker 5: consensus I think once you really settled into what Miami.

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Speaker 4: Has and what Ohio State has, and then.

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Speaker 5: Actually the factors of that game both come into that

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Speaker 4: Right Ohio State. You just said it, though, who did

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Speaker 4: And so to get tested that's the knock on it.

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Speaker 5: So to get tested in the real way against a

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Speaker 5: team that had something to prove. I mean this, for me,

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Speaker 5: it was the recipe for a win by Miami but

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Speaker 3: College football and the way that these top teams have

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Speaker 3: have to relook at the way they set up the

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Speaker 3: the better teams or better brands you know, can kind

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Speaker 4: that conversation next with you. It is the Herd. Yes,

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Speaker 4: And you know what you need to do, stick and

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year.

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Speaker 3: It is New Year's Day here on the Herd, Rob

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Speaker 3: Parker with former All Pro safety Carry Roads sitting in.

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Speaker 4: Oh we lost them? What happened? David? And Memphis Callback?

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Speaker 6: Rob?

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Speaker 8: When you're working out of the attic here Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: rob cutting off the access to the university or to

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Speaker 3: the players isn't going to help anybody though. No, but

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying I get for the players. But remember

447
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Speaker 3: everybody doesn't make it to the NFL. So it's a handful.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it sounds good the two or.

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Speaker 3: Three guys, there's a whole other group of guys. And

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Speaker 3: all I'm saying is you gotta have some sort of

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Speaker 3: working relationship. We foot the bill for a lot. When

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Speaker 3: I say we college football. The Dodgers have ten minor

453
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Speaker 3: league teams that they have to pay coaches, fields, that

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Speaker 3: comes out of their money.

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Speaker 4: NFL doesn't have any of that.

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Speaker 3: They don't have to They just do their business and

457
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Speaker 3: they got this free feeder system that they don't have

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Speaker 3: to do anything. And that's all I'm saying is like

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Speaker 3: the last thing we want, we're not even asking for money.

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Speaker 3: Can we have Saturdays? High school football Fridays? College football Saturdays?

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Speaker 4: And then NFL what you've.

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Speaker 3: Already seen between Monday Thursday night and now they got

463
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Speaker 3: the Black Friday game, they play games on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all. I don't think he's what he's saying

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Speaker 4: is ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I would say just check check the temperature

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Speaker 5: of the room as well. All right, you're the stuff

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Speaker 5: you're saying is one hundred percent right, And I can

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Speaker 5: understand him saying that from that perspective. But then you

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Speaker 5: look at college football and what days of college football

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Speaker 5: play on? Is it just solely Saturday? Well not, But

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like, so like they've taken steps to,

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Speaker 5: you know, find extra days to play on and have

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Speaker 5: moments to stand alone. On Fridays, they have Friday night game,

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Speaker 5: so they have they've started to spread their wise. And

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Speaker 5: so if they're saying the NFL does that, the high

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Speaker 5: school can say they're a farm league for college and

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Speaker 5: they're taking their day so like everybody has.

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Speaker 3: But the difference is those high school games on our

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Speaker 3: national TeleMe.

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Speaker 4: Well, but the majority and they know.

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Speaker 3: Because they see the ratings being heard in college football

483
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Speaker 3: college football ratings are down.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Despite these teams and and all the money that's involved

486
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Speaker 3: and all that other stuff, it ain't as easy as

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Speaker 3: it has been. Rob G do we have this call

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Speaker 3: here or is that the no? No no, I just oh

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Speaker 3: it dropped it. So we got we got problems here

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Speaker 3: on the phone. It's all good. I just thought that

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Speaker 3: was the same guy I was trying to get in

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Speaker 3: here on the odd couple. Yeah so, but but the

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Speaker 3: only way talking about it ain't gonna get nothing done.

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Speaker 4: It's all I'm saying, is it.

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Speaker 3: It had to be a real, a real like all

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Speaker 3: out war in order to get them to understand like

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Speaker 3: how important this is. And I'm just saying, you have

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Speaker 3: to market material your your territory. The NBA just rolled

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Speaker 3: over they did, you know, and now they find themselves

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Speaker 3: where Christmas Day and and the NBA rolled out, uh

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Speaker 3: these ratings for those games, and the NFL just said,

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Speaker 3: well look at our ratings.

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Speaker 4: They to triple what you guys for games that didn't

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Speaker 4: even matter.

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Speaker 5: But I think it comes to this, Rob, like what's

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Speaker 5: the real contingency plan?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: Like we can have these guys, people can say certain

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Speaker 5: things out loud and can be one off since then

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Speaker 5: on your own. But like somebody like a Dan Lannon

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Speaker 5: who's been a really great coach, uh and coach is

512
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Speaker 5: one of the best teams in college football in Oregon,

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Speaker 5: Like why not have this conversation with the powers to

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Speaker 5: be in college and not the fans.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't matter, right, there's no doubt that that that's

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Speaker 3: a conversation that you have to have.

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Speaker 4: But but we.

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Speaker 3: Are where we are, And what I mean is everything

519
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Speaker 3: is public, all these press conferences, all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't always like that. You know where you heard

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Speaker 4: all these things. So it wasn't like he was standing

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Speaker 4: on top of the Empire State Builder yelling you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean.

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Speaker 3: He's in a press conference, they ask him about something

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Speaker 3: and then boom, guys get on their soapbox a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And that's usually where that kind of stuff come from.

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Speaker 3: But it is interesting just as the NFL continues to

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Speaker 3: just monopolize it. And I've said it all the time,

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Speaker 3: the NFL people don't remember it when they when they

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Speaker 3: came off of CBS. CBS didn't want to pay the

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Speaker 3: rights fees, and the NFL people don't remember when the

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Speaker 3: NFL was taken off of network television Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 3: People don't because the ratings weren't good Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 3: That's why they came off of ABC. People because Monday

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Speaker 3: Night Raw had better ratings than Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 4: Did you know that? I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: People what year Tagler Boo was the commissioner, so you

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Speaker 3: got to go back to that. I don't know the

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Speaker 3: exact year. And supposedly he went to Vince McMahon and

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Speaker 3: tried to get them to move Monday Night Raw because

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Speaker 3: they were affecting. People were And then this thing called,

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Speaker 3: uh the.

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Speaker 4: What's the football?

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Speaker 3: Fantasy football came along and changed every That changed everything

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Speaker 3: because I used to be if you were a fan

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Speaker 3: of a particular team, like your team, the Jets.

547
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Speaker 4: I grew up and I was a Jets fan.

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Speaker 3: Fantasy football made me care about games that that had

549
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Speaker 3: nothing to do with my team because I had a

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Speaker 3: player on the Jacksonville Jaguars. So now I'm watching and

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Speaker 3: I'm interested in that game, where before I was never

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Speaker 3: interested in any And that's how you take something from

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Speaker 3: regional to a national interest.

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Speaker 4: And then you add the element of gambling.

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Speaker 3: On top of it and that's but but those were

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Speaker 3: the two things fantasy football people winning money and being

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Speaker 3: and caring about games. A meaningless Jacksonville game against the Panthers,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden people are watching on a Monday night.

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Speaker 5: Because they right, they don't care who wins or lose it.

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Speaker 3: So so it was of that ilk it was. It

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Speaker 3: was amazing, and so that has what happened.

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Speaker 4: Right now. Let's welcome in Yogi Roth from the Big.

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Speaker 3: Ten Network of course analysts and the host of the

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Speaker 3: Why Option podcast and Yogi Happy New Year. Say hello

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Speaker 3: to Kerry Rhoades here on the Herd. What's happening, Lot's happening?

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Speaker 6: Happy here to YouTube as well, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 6: A big fan of all the work that y'all do.

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Speaker 6: And it is a is a beautiful morning. I'll be

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Speaker 6: at a little rainy. We just finished our pregame show

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Speaker 6: as you reference on the Big ten Network out here

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Speaker 6: at the Roosevelt and just kind of getting going here

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Speaker 6: with the organ game. So it's gonna be a fun

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Speaker 6: New Year's day.

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Speaker 4: Yogi, how many Why options can you still run? Right now?

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Speaker 4: You still can run a couple of those, you know.

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Speaker 6: I can. I'll get past the sticks and I'll get down.

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Speaker 6: That's all I got.

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Speaker 4: But I'm in all right, Yogi.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to last night's game, and you know, Miami dominated.

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Speaker 3: It should have been probably leading by three scores in

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Speaker 3: the first half.

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Speaker 4: They're up by two. They dominated that game.

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Speaker 3: And here's Ohio State hadn't played in twenty five days,

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Speaker 3: the number one seed. All that out the window, and

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Speaker 3: we look at it and now teams with the buys

586
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Speaker 3: are now zero to five in this new format. Is

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Speaker 3: this a problem in college football or not?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a cool question. I still don't think we

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Speaker 6: have all the data. I mean, talk to me at

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Speaker 6: the end of the night. You know, maybe it's a

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Speaker 6: different answer. I think that we do have in college football.

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Speaker 6: Number one. I think we got to give Miami a

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Speaker 6: ton of credit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. They dominated. They earned that win.

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Speaker 3: I'm not even trying to pooh pool.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I know that, and you've always been that way.

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Speaker 6: I think what stood out to me in that game

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Speaker 6: for Ohio State first was their last two games, they've

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Speaker 6: had moments. Their margin for error has just the surprising

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Speaker 6: part is has been so small. Right Indiana, they had

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Speaker 6: two or three runs that almost broke. They would have

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Speaker 6: won the game if they make one of those plays.

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Speaker 6: They don't throw that pick six. Who knows what happens

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Speaker 6: in the second half. But I'm with you, that was

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Speaker 6: surprising for me. I thought Ohio State would go and

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Speaker 6: have a chance to repeat. They don't. To your point

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Speaker 6: on the layoff we just got done talking about Indiana

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Speaker 6: is now twenty six days. Texas Tech they're down early

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Speaker 6: twenty six days, and I think it speaks more to

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Speaker 6: the calendar of we should be playing that's the title

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Speaker 6: game right now. Like you know, I started thinking about

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Speaker 6: the last night. The NFL, like the top seeds still

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Speaker 6: get buys, but they're only off for a week. You

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Speaker 6: know that they're not off for three almost a month,

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Speaker 6: So I think that they're going to look at this.

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Speaker 6: I think the calendar is getting just too much momentum

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Speaker 6: from coaches. I mean, look at the game you're watching

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Speaker 6: now in Oregon. Kosh Lupoy, will Stein just get their

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Speaker 6: dream jobs to be head coaches, and they're coordinating a

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Speaker 6: team and all their focuses there Brian Hartlin last night

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Speaker 6: for Ohio State. You can put your focus there, but

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Speaker 6: you also have to put it elsewhere. And I just

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Speaker 6: think it doesn't make a lot of sense. And what's

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Speaker 6: going to happen if we play this thing out of

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Speaker 6: my eyes in five years is college football just doesn't

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Speaker 6: become entertaining anymore outside of the games, and the NFL

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Speaker 6: is entertaining outside of the games. We love free agency,

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Speaker 6: we love the drafts, we love the portal. If you will,

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Speaker 6: I think College foot buck can learn a thing or

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Speaker 6: two from that, and I hope they do make those

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Speaker 6: necessary changes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yo, Yeah, that's a great point. I mean we

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Speaker 5: kind of glossed over the Brian the heartline not being

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Speaker 5: able to call plays last night because of his new

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Speaker 5: job affiliation, and you know, they going back to play

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Speaker 5: call And do you think that had any effect on

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Speaker 5: the slow start or do you just attribute it to

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Speaker 5: the twenty five days off?

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Speaker 6: I think it all contributes to it. I meanink, Brian

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Speaker 6: Day is so accomplished as a play caller, it's hard

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Speaker 6: to criticize him based on just his pedigree and what

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Speaker 6: he's always done. But it's been two years. I think

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Speaker 6: it's a fair thing to bring up when you add

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Speaker 6: in the twenty five days off, the injuries on the

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Speaker 6: offensive line they deal withate a different starting offensive line

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Speaker 6: group and then they have to change excuse me again

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Speaker 6: at the half due to an injury. So I mean

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Speaker 6: you combine all those things plus Miami's strength is their

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Speaker 6: front set of Yes, yes, I mean them in Indiana

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Speaker 6: and Oregon. I mean you kind of to talk a

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Speaker 6: lot of the CFP teams, but it's an explosive, violent group.

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Speaker 6: I mean that is their strength defensively, and two weeks

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Speaker 6: in or two games in a row, rather iow State

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Speaker 6: exposed up front and that was the thing that I

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Speaker 6: was most looking forward to in the game, because you

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Speaker 6: guys know this, when a coach finds a flaw within themselves,

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Speaker 6: like Ohio State. Did they give up five sacks against Indiana?

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Speaker 6: I think they had six all season heading into the

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Speaker 6: Big Ten title game, and they gave up a bunch

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Speaker 6: more again last night. I thought they would have found

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Speaker 6: ways to shore that up. They tried to with tempo

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Speaker 6: and getting the ball out, but ultimately it just wasn't enough.

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Speaker 3: How about Miami, where are they now? Can they really

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Speaker 3: upset the Apple CARDA?

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Speaker 4: Was this a one off?

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. My favorite graphic thus far in

667
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Speaker 6: the CFP that we saw on TV last night was

668
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Speaker 6: since that game in two thousand and two, two thousand

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Speaker 6: and three, the national title game between those two teams.

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Speaker 6: I think Miami's only had four to ten win seasons

671
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Speaker 6: and Ohio State had something like eighteen. Wow, And that

672
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Speaker 6: I wrote it down somewhere that's clearly not in front

673
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Speaker 6: of me now, I apologize, but it was crazy to

674
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Speaker 6: see that. And you know, I've known coach Chris the

675
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Speaker 6: ball as you guys have for a long time, and

676
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Speaker 6: I think there is something that's cliche but accurating college

677
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Speaker 6: for all, when the U is back, when the Trojans

678
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Speaker 6: are rolling, like, there is something to the to the

679
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 6: blue blood's being really blue because it's so easy to

680
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Speaker 6: take shots at him when they're down.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 6: It's also amazing to watch Indiana and Texas Tech have

683
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Speaker 6: this crazy elevation that they've never seen in their historic

684
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Speaker 6: programs respectively. But overall, yeah, I think it's real watching

685
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Speaker 6: Mario rebuild Oregon within the trenches and then pass it

686
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Speaker 6: off to Dan Lanning who's taking it to another level.

687
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Speaker 6: And then when he left to take over his alma mater,

688
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Speaker 6: a just a program that we all remember. I have

689
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Speaker 6: no idea what Miami was like back in the day.

690
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Speaker 6: Either I remember playing against Otro Role and Sean Taylor

691
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Speaker 6: and Jonathan Vilma like that, what Ken Dorsey, We played

692
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Speaker 6: those Jeremy Shockey. It was awesome that back in the

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Speaker 6: old Big East. So yeah, I think I think they're

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Speaker 6: real and we'll see how this thing shakes out. But

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Speaker 6: can you imagine Oregon Miami, Like how much song would

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Speaker 6: that be with Mario Christoball and Dan Lanning just for

697
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Speaker 6: the drama college football in the national title game?

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Speaker 4: It would be.

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Speaker 3: Our guest is Yogi Rath from the Big Ten Network,

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Speaker 3: of course, an analyst and host of the y Option podcast,

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Speaker 3: joining us here on the herd. Rob Parker carry Rhades

702
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Speaker 3: in for Colin on this New Year's Day.

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Speaker 5: Yogi with me, you cover the Big ten a lot,

704
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Speaker 5: and obviously when we look at the Big ten in football,

705
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Speaker 5: I mean we think about Ohio State, Michigan. Obviously, Indiana's

706
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Speaker 5: kind of jumped in in that party in that mix.

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Speaker 4: I'm running against Indiana. We're gonna talk about that coming up.

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Speaker 4: They're not the little engine that couldn't They're not.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, but any other joint the party with

710
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Speaker 5: those two. But we always talk about the Big ten

711
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Speaker 5: and the SEC being the pillars of college football, and

712
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Speaker 5: I just I think we put too much credence in that,

713
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Speaker 5: and I think individually some of these teams deserve a

714
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Speaker 5: little bit more credit, Like do you really think that

715
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Speaker 5: the Big Ten in the SEC is heading shoulders above it?

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Speaker 5: When we talk about the full body of work of

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Speaker 5: these of these conferences, heading.

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Speaker 6: Shoulders I think is aggressive. And from the lens of

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Speaker 6: PAC twelve, I know what it was like to be

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Speaker 6: the only, you know, one of the very few people

721
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Speaker 6: you're kind of fighting for a league. Try to talk

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Speaker 6: about the strength. And when I look at the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 6: I see the old PAC twelve of a bunch of

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Speaker 6: really good teams that you know, beat each other in

725
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Speaker 6: one score, high scoring games. Exactly when I look at

726
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Speaker 6: the ACC, I'm a pit alum. You know, it's still

727
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Speaker 6: weird for me to think a PIT in the ACC.

728
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Speaker 6: And it's been almost damn here twenty years for them

729
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Speaker 6: being in that league. I think, here's the truth that

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Speaker 6: I've learned in the last two seasons calling all Big

731
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Speaker 6: Ten games and really even betting myself within that league.

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Speaker 6: And I say the same for the SEC to go

733
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Speaker 6: in NI conference games, for the Big Ten SEC thankfully

734
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Speaker 6: think the Lord will go there next year and get

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Speaker 6: out of that week week eleven game that majority of

736
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Speaker 6: them have. It's brutal, it's just hard. I mean Minnesota

737
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Speaker 6: is as a tough out sc a tough out Washington,

738
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Speaker 6: a toughout like that. That's the challenge. I think as

739
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Speaker 6: the years go on. And if you asked me last

740
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Speaker 6: year your biggest takeaway of the Big Ten, I would

741
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Speaker 6: have said, Man, I didn't think the quarterback play was

742
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Speaker 6: as good as I wanted it to be. Yeah, this

743
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Speaker 6: season it's been the best in the history of the

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Speaker 6: Big Ten. And I've checked that with Jery DeNardo, who's

745
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Speaker 6: been a Big Ten Network analyst for nearly twenty years,

746
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Speaker 6: and he co sign on that. And you look up

747
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Speaker 6: and down the league, look at whether it's Demon Williams

748
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Speaker 6: or Dante more may Ava, Dylan Ryola at the time

749
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Speaker 6: when he was at Nebraska. Look at Mark Ronowski what

750
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Speaker 6: he just did against Tennessee at Iowa like you start

751
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Speaker 6: looking at it. Drake Lindsay at Minnesota will not get

752
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 6: a lot of play, but he'll be drafted in two years.

753
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 6: He's needs a big time pocket passer. So I start

754
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Speaker 6: looking at that, and then when I talk to guys

755
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Speaker 6: in the portal, Fernando Mendoza being one of them, they

756
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Speaker 6: want to come play in this league, in the Big

757
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Speaker 6: Ten or the SEC. So it's becoming the power too.

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Speaker 6: And I'll finish with this. What is surprising most in

759
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Speaker 6: my sidebar conversations with coaches and athletic departments is there's

760
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Speaker 6: a desire to get as they've called to the power too,

761
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 6: and I never thought i'd hear that. But whether that's resources,

762
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 6: whether that's exposure, whether that's media, whatever it is. But

763
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Speaker 6: to me the Big Ten is that they different and

764
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Speaker 6: it will surprise you. And then I get the last

765
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Speaker 6: part was the fan bases like the care factors through

766
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Speaker 6: the roof. I mean, it's crazy, man. I'm calling Rutgers

767
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 6: Perdue winless Big Ten teams in late September and it's

768
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Speaker 6: sold out. Wow, West Lafayette like that. That is a

769
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Speaker 6: really cool element. So I do think the diversity of players, scheme,

770
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Speaker 6: the quarterbacks and now finding their way coaches want to

771
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Speaker 6: coach in this league. The money resources have a part

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Speaker 6: to do with that. And then the tradition of course

773
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Speaker 6: carries it so head and shoulders no, but are they

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Speaker 6: separating I think, so I feel that being embedded in it,

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Speaker 6: all right.

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Speaker 3: And Yogi, I would be remiss when I'll asking you

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Speaker 3: who you're named after?

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Speaker 6: Oh, thanks for asking me. Yeah, often people think it's

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Speaker 6: Yogi Bear.

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00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: Well there's only two Yogi's Yogi Bear and Yogi bearra.

781
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Speaker 4: Right, there's only two.

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Speaker 6: Well, well I'll ad a thirteen. So my family, my

783
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 6: parents studied Eastern philosophies forever. So every kid got a

784
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 6: Hindu name as their as one of their either first

785
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 6: or middle name, and then the other one was Hebrew

786
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 6: because my mom was born and raised in the Middle East,

787
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 6: in Israel. So Yogi is like if you practice yoga,

788
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 6: all right, if you're trying to bring some union to

789
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 6: the world in this chaotic word raw argue. Yes, right,

790
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 6: you go to yoga class, you get centered. They decided

791
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 6: to give me that name and tried to shake it

792
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 6: early on because the near a kid in an athlete. Right,

793
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Speaker 6: But I'm really proud of it now and hopefully I

794
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 6: can do that and you know every part of my life.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank your parents for me. Yes, well, that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: And I always when I hear names that you know,

797
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: you don't hear that often I always want to ask,

798
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, where they came from.

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Speaker 4: But Yogi roth Man, we appreciate you. Thanks for joining

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Speaker 4: us here on the Herd. Thank you, Yogi.

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Speaker 6: Heck you Happy New Year. Enjoy and keep killing it.

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00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 6: It's enjoy watching you guys.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, buddy.

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Speaker 3: All Right, Dan Campbell really put his foot in his

805
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: mouth this week, Yes he did.

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Speaker 4: We'll get into that next. It is a herd. You

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Speaker 4: heard that.

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Speaker 3: Rob Parker carry Road sitting in for Colin right here

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Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio, Stick and Stay Driving USA.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noone Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 4: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 4: Or wherever you get your podcasts. It is a herd

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Speaker 4: on New Year's Day. Rob Parker, former All Pro.

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Speaker 3: Safety Carry Road sitting there for Colin and the crew

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Speaker 3: here on the herd right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: At think my voice carries all right.

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Speaker 3: I've been drinking hot tea trying to get myself together

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Speaker 3: on this New Year's Day.

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Speaker 4: It will be a double dep dip for yours, truly.

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Speaker 3: I'll be on the Odd Couple tonight starting at seven

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Speaker 3: pm Eastern right here on Fox Sports Radio. Martin Wiss

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Speaker 3: and I will have some fun putting in that work,

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Speaker 3: that's right. But you're the official Odd Couple side pechs,

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Speaker 3: just not today you're doing this show, Rob G.

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Speaker 4: One of my favorite coaches, Dan Gamble, I mean Dan

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Speaker 4: Campbell from the Detroit Lions from me.

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Speaker 3: He was waxing poetically about his quarterback, Jared Golf.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Jared Goff, you mentioned in the commercial break, had

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Speaker 8: one of the worst closing to a season as possible

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Speaker 8: last year against the Commanders in the playoffs. Had four turnovers.

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Speaker 8: This year in a must win God have a game

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Speaker 8: against the Minnesota Vikings has five.

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Speaker 3: So you know what that means, right, Rob G and

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Speaker 3: Carry what means he had more turnovers.

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Speaker 4: Than a baker than a baker.

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Speaker 8: Yes, And so afterwards, Rob Parker came out Fox Sports.

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Speaker 4: Radio said you got to get rid of Jared Golf.

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Speaker 8: And I think that they heard that in Detroit because

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Speaker 8: Dan Campbell was asked about and he said, quote, Jared's

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Speaker 8: an absolute stud.

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Speaker 4: He's a pro. He's going nowhere. You're right, he's not

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Speaker 4: going to the Super Bowl. Neither are the Lions. And

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Speaker 4: Jared Golf don't know. Here we go. He puts up numbers.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Carrie, they didn't like there's different levels to everything.

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Speaker 3: It's great to win regular season games. The Lions, with

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Speaker 3: the young nucleus and the players that they've signed and

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Speaker 3: where they were, the idea is to get to the

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Speaker 3: super Bowl, right, So let's not let's stop acting like

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Speaker 3: just winning nine games is great and we're all happy,

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Speaker 3: schmappy and all that is Detroit though. Okay, but three

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Speaker 3: years ago they won the NFC Championship Game, blowing out

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers in San Francisco in the first half.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, that was a fail. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Then they get the top seed in the NFC home

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Speaker 3: field throughout the playoffs, fifteen and two franchise record. Whatever

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Speaker 3: rookie quarterback Jane Daniels shows up and as much as

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Speaker 3: he played well, the reason they lost was Jered Goar.

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Speaker 3: They were nine and a half point favorites because people

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Speaker 3: say all the defense was banged up. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: Vegas gave you nine and it was nine and a

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Speaker 3: half even with the defense.

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Speaker 4: Those hurt. Those players were already hurt before that game.

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Speaker 3: They knew the Lions could outscore the Commanders, right, that's

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Speaker 3: why nine and a half points. Yeah, Jered Goss has

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Speaker 3: the four turnover there, just a terrible gameame. Here we

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Speaker 3: go to this year. They need to stay alive. They

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Speaker 3: need to win both games their last two games. Playing

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Speaker 3: Minnesota with the third string quarterback who had net three

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Speaker 3: net yards for the game. He threw for fifty one

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Speaker 3: yards forty one yards and sacks. Right, yeah, lost yards

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Speaker 3: he had three that was plus he had three passing

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Speaker 3: yards total. And Jared Goff has five turnovers in that game. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's a common denominator. I'm convinced you can't get there.

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Speaker 3: I just I've seen enough of Jared Goff, good quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you could get there. That's why the

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Speaker 3: Rams gave.

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Speaker 4: Up on them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand why the Rams gave up on them,

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Speaker 5: But for the Lions and what he's brought to that team,

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Speaker 5: he is their guy. There's no guy who're gonna bing

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Speaker 5: in that's gonna better than him right now. And yes,

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Speaker 5: all that stuff you said is true. Those years were failures,

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Speaker 5: but you're not getting anybody better than Jared Goff right now.

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Speaker 3: All right, our number two of the herd is coming up,

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Speaker 3: and you know what you want to do?

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Speaker 4: Stick and stay America