1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: What's up everybody? 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Move the Sticks, DJ, Bucky Rhett with you 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: on a Monday, as we're looking back at a man, 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: what crazy weekend of NFL games. There's some weeks where 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: you kind of go, Okay, what are the top three 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: games we need to get to and there's other weeks 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: where they kind of write the script itself here and 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: that's what we have. 10 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: Great to see you boys here. Buck, where are you 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: at there? 12 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Looks like you're posing for a picture at Owens Owens 13 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Mills or whatever they call that placed back in the day. 14 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: What was the name of that? 15 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: You go get your professional or not always Mills Mills, 16 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: Olin Mills, thank you. 17 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like I am still in Jacksonville. 18 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 5: I'm on my way back, but this is the backdrop 19 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 5: in the lobby of the hotel at the Business Center 20 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 5: and they just so happen to have this, like I mean, yeah, 21 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 5: like a nice little backdrop. 22 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 4: Looks might need to add this at the ouse. 23 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel think that's where that picture from like 24 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: the Jack step Brothers was was taken their Rhett, you 25 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean that looks like I need and 26 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Biselli to cozy up and take a pick there. Uh ratt, Hey, 27 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: let's get out of the way. Congrats, who's your still rolling? 28 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Still undefeated? Uh, you're still. 29 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: Wrong at the point where we're just getting it out 30 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: of the way. Now, we're just getting it out of 31 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: the way at the top of the show. 32 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 6: Now a reality thing. 33 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: Let's just stay sing ten, just keeps rolling here. Okay, 34 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's all good. 35 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: It's impressive, it's impressive. All right, Let's let's start things 36 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: off here. First game. Look, there's only one place to start, 37 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: and that was the number one pick, the number two pick, 38 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: Jade and Caleb. A game that was maybe one of 39 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: us entertaining finishes of a game we've seen, not just 40 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: this year but in quite some time. Crazy ending. We'll 41 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: get to the ending of this game won by the 42 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: Commanders eighteen to fifteen. 43 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: But before we do. 44 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: That, uh Buck, lead us off and followim up here. 45 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: Just take away on the two guys. I mean, that's 46 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: what the price of admission was for those two quarterbacks. 47 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 5: What you see from them, I mean, this is exactly 48 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 5: what you want when you when you when you pick 49 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 5: a quarterback that high you're hoping that they delivered the 50 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 5: kind of performances both of these guys are able to deliver. 51 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 5: I think it's easy to talk about Jayden Daniels and 52 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 5: the legend that continues to grow in Washington, like the 53 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 5: excitement over him won the decision that he wanted. 54 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: To play, he wanted to take the ball despite the 55 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: ribs and those things like he's like, no, I'm playing. 56 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 4: I'm gonna make this happen. I'm gonna do it. 57 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 5: He does it without like what left tackles out, He 58 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 5: has some other people out. 59 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: He just continues to make plays. 60 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 5: And then look, man, this dude has ribs, but he's 61 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 5: running the ball. It's just such a stark contrast to 62 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 5: some of the other quarterbacks that we see, I e. 63 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson. 64 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 5: I think it's just it's just crazy that this guy 65 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 5: is as good as he is. I look, I underestimated 66 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 5: how good he would be in the pros. 67 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: He's everything and beyond. 68 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that is that is certainly one of 69 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: the big takeaways here from not only this game, but 70 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: this season, as you said, eight games in now for 71 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: the Commanders leading the NFC East. 72 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 6: Okay, I think on. 73 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: The other side for Caleb Williams. You know, this was 74 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: went down and led what many thought was going to 75 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: be a game winning drive at the end of the game. 76 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: So I don't leave this game feeling any different about Caleb. 77 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 3: I leave this game thinking, man, number one and number 78 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: two pick overall so far feel like home runs for 79 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: both these teams, and that's kind of where I'm at 80 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 3: on that one. I would also just say quickly on 81 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: the Commander's second pick in this draft, played his best 82 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: game as a pro. Johnny Newton was all over the 83 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: place on the interior defensive line for the Washington Commanders. 84 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: I thought, by far had his best game of the season. 85 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: Eight pressures, got his first sack. The quickness and get 86 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: off reminded me of the due that we saw at 87 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: Illinois that was so difficult to deal with on the interior. 88 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 6: He looks a little smaller in there, but man, I'm telling. 89 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: You, sometimes I he'll delay a little bit and then 90 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: it's like he hits the turbo button and like he 91 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: is pushing the center back on top of the quarterback 92 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: so quickly. 93 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 6: Man, he's got that. 94 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: He's got that quickness when he wants to get off 95 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: liket he wins. He wins right now, and so there 96 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: was a couple of times where you put the center 97 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: on roller skates right back into Kayleb Williams. So I'm 98 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: impressed with with really all that we saw from from 99 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: some of the young players in this game. 100 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 101 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: It was fun to go through the tape this morning, 102 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: starting with Jaden. First of all, there was four drops 103 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 1: in this game. So look at how good the stats 104 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: look at the end of the game. We'll get to 105 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: the hill marry in just a little bit. But all 106 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: the poise that we've seen all year long was there. 107 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: The opportunistic play making with his legs when he needed 108 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: to get out of trouble, that was there. And I'm 109 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: just I'm watching this game and I'm sitting here thinking, 110 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: we all know Adam Peters, and you look at the 111 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: skill position players that they accumulated in San Francisco during 112 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: his time there with John Lynch, and I'm like, this 113 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: is the ground floor like that. If you're excited right 114 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: now as a Washington fan, be even more excited. This 115 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: is going to be the worst group that he plays 116 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: with probably for you know, least in there's five seven 117 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: years Adam Peter's going to add pieces here. They're going 118 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: to get more dynamic players. Terry mclaurin's awesome, but he's 119 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: gonna have some help here coming shortly as the continue 120 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: to build out this roster. So absolutely as good as 121 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: advertised for Jad and Daniels. 122 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: Caleb. 123 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: I had heard from a lot of people, you know, 124 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: just that had watched the game. I hadn't seen it, 125 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: so I had to watch it on tape this morning. 126 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: The thought was, okay, Caleb was too amped up, and 127 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: then he settled down, and then he played well, obviously 128 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter on those two big drives. Late 129 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: and watching the tape, I thought, more so than like nerves, 130 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: I thought he was tentative early in the game, like 131 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: he did not want to make a mistake. He did 132 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: not want to cost his team, he did not want 133 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: to turn the ball over. There's an example early. I 134 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: think it's the first pass of the game. They have 135 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: one of those little swing screens set up. They're unable 136 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: to cut the defensive end. It's still a throw because 137 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: they're blocked out in the perimeter. He's got to get 138 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: it up and over the defensive end and drop it 139 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: down and then you probably have a pretty nice little play. 140 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: I think was second and ten at that point in time. 141 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: But he's sitting there thinking, I'm not going to throw 142 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: a pick to this defensive end this early in game. 143 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it. Holds the ball takes 144 00:05:59,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: a sack. 145 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: There's later on in the game everybody shows the throw 146 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: with Keenan Allen where the ball kind of sails on him. 147 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: He didn't on a couple of these screens. I don't 148 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: think he really trusts the receivers that are in position 149 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: to block, Like, hey, if you know, if I throw 150 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: this ball and they don't secure this block, this could 151 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: something bad could happen. So I thought I saw a 152 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: lot of that with him, some tentativeness and not wanting 153 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: to make a mistake. I saw him turning down some 154 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: opportunities down the field and taking off and trying to run. 155 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: And then I thought, as it got late where it 156 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: was got to have it time. I thought he threw 157 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: caution to the wind. He has the huge throw from 158 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: in the pocket where he gets drilled. I thought that 159 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: was you know that that's who he needs to be. 160 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: So if I'm in that coaching staff, I'm saying, hey, man, 161 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna you're gonna turn the ball over, You're gonna 162 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: make some mistakes, but we drafted you to be you, 163 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: and that's the aggressive version of you and bucket, you know. 164 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: I I think that's it's a good thing that he's 165 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: conscious of it, that he's aware of it. Hey, protect 166 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: the football. We have a great defense. Don't don't screw 167 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: it up. But I still think you got to let 168 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: Caleb kind of be Caleb, and I think that was 169 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: the difference between early in the game and what we 170 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: saw on the fourth quarter. 171 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he should be encouraged to kind of 172 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 5: toe the line, see where his boundaries are, like try 173 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 5: to eliminate I would say, like the bonehead mistakes, but 174 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 5: like push the envelope a little bit, because what you 175 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: don't want to do is take someone who is as 176 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 5: talented as he is, who really made his living at 177 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: the collegiate level with improvisational plays, and say, hey, we 178 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 5: want to put you in a box and make you 179 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 5: a robot. That's not why they drafted him. And so 180 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 5: because he is so talented, he is so gifted, he 181 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 5: just has to understand when and where. I think for me, 182 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 5: it's all about situational awareness, understanding when you can push 183 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 5: the envelope understanding when. 184 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: You need a dollar back. 185 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 5: If he masters that part of it, which is called 186 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 5: game management, look, he would be everything that we thought 187 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 5: he could be. 188 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: In more, we got to get to the end of 189 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: the game here, rhet I'll tee you up first, your thoughts, 190 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: the hail Mary. 191 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: We provide credit. 192 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: We'll blanket the credit early for Jaden Daniels buying all 193 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: kinds of time and just launching an absolute gem of 194 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: a ball there and Noel Brown being in the right spot. 195 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: We've covered the I think that's pretty easy for everybody 196 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: to understand and see and explain. Let's focus on the 197 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: other side of the ball. What's your takeaway at the 198 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Chicago into this thing, because there. 199 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: Were three phases of it, and that was the first phase, 200 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: right with Jane Daniels beying the time. The second phase 201 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: was what in the world was going on with Tyreek 202 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: Stevenson twenty nine And we know he was going back 203 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: and forth with Terry McLaurin and all that john all 204 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: game long, and it continued and it was obviously a 205 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: problem there at the end. So I talked to actually 206 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: spent the morning on NFL Radio on Serius sexm and 207 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: was talking with Logan Ryan Right, two times Super Bowl 208 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 3: champion defensive back the Patriots, Bucks Titans, all that, and 209 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 3: he went through and laid out the entire plan as 210 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick would have taught it, right, and it was 211 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: called rebound, That's what he said. 212 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 6: The play was called right where you had one guy 213 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 6: that was designated as the jumper for the defense. Right, 214 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 6: you rush for, you drop seven. 215 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: You've got one guy designated as the jumper, the other 216 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 3: four guys are trying to box out the other receivers, 217 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: and then you have a guy defending a deflection in 218 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: front of the mess and behind the mess. 219 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 6: The Bears had none of that all. 220 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: They had two guys that were kind of shadowing a 221 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: commander's receiver that was in front of the goal line, 222 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: in front of the mass that was jumping up to 223 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: get the ball, and then obviously nobody on Noah Brown behind. 224 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: But they had five guys going up for the same 225 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: jump ball. 226 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 6: This will play Bucky. 227 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 3: That is practiced at least once a week in practice, right, 228 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: it's every team every week, and they go through all 229 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: of the procedures. 230 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 6: Here. This was just an epic fail. An epic fail. 231 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 3: And I have I mean I have zero I mean 232 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: I have zero doubt that this was not the way 233 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: that Matt Eberfors coaches is play right. So from your perspective, 234 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 3: I mean, for my percent, that's what I saw. What 235 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: did What did you see on that? 236 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 4: Well? 237 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 5: One, I saw Tederick Stevens and not being focused because 238 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 5: he's still jing with the crowd while the play is underway. 239 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 5: And then what you talk about, I think Logan Ryan 240 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 5: gives a good point. It is a hard play to 241 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 5: defend only in terms of like the positioning and trying 242 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 5: to judge the ball. So I do think it's great 243 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 5: that Bill Belichick said only one guy, only one guy 244 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 5: gets to jump. Everybody else find a man box him out, 245 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 5: just like basketball, and you have to practice it. The 246 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 5: thing is, you can't practice it in full speed, but 247 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 5: you certainly can get into position and talk about it. 248 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 5: It's one of the things that's always scary about the 249 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 5: Hill Mary situation is people just leaving their responsibilities and 250 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 5: ball watching and like it's mesmerizing and Tyreek goes from 251 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 5: off the side to in the middle of it. He 252 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 5: tips it and remember we always talk about it, down 253 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: it right down. 254 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: He tips it. 255 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 5: Right up and lands in the hands of Noah Brown 256 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 5: like just an unbelievable play. 257 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: But DJ, here's the other coach got on that too, right, 258 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: because once that ball is tipped, if there's a guy 259 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: on Noah Brown, you could just tackle him to the 260 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: ground because there is no more pass interfere after the 261 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: ball is tipped. So's there's a bunch of stuff there. 262 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have an interesting take on what happened to 263 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: play before, and I'll get to that, But I want 264 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: to first of all, blame this loss on video games. 265 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent blaming this loss on video games 266 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: because Ret's a little younger than us, Buck, But I 267 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: guarantee you Bucky had the same childhood I did. That 268 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: We didn't sit inside and play video games. We went 269 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: outside in the street with all of our friends in 270 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: the neighborhood and we played three Flies Up. These kids 271 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: are sitting here playing video games. They didn't grow up 272 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: playing three flies up like we did. And we did 273 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: it for hours and hours. 274 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: And hours and hours. 275 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: I guarantee if you ask everybody on defense, if you said, 276 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: what's three flies up, they won't even know what it is. 277 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: It's a generational thing. 278 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: They don't know. They don't know. 279 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also play consoles. 280 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 5: Also blame the guys they didn't play multiple sports who 281 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 5: don't understand how to judge a fly ball, so they're 282 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 5: drifting and fading away. They don't understand, like how to 283 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 5: track it in the air. All those things are to 284 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 5: be done. And Matt uber Flus was so mad. He 285 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 5: was so instanced when they asked him, do you practice 286 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 5: you practice to hill Mary? I know he's like, yes, 287 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 5: but I can't execute it for him. I can only 288 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 5: put him in a position. I can't tell them to 289 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 5: catch it and knock it down and all this other stuff. 290 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 5: But man, that is a tough way to go out. 291 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: Last thing. I tease it real quick. 292 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: I was talking to rich Eisen about this morning, which 293 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: was and I posted it on social media because end 294 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: of the half, they were in the same hill Mary 295 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: situation at the end of half. So they're at the 296 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: Chicago forty nine eight seconds left and Chicago plays a 297 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: defense where they protect the sidelines and bucket. 298 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: Even though you've seen this a million times, lane on 299 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: the secator, yes, you take that a light. 300 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: So they took that away because they knew fifteen yards 301 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: gets them in field goal range. 302 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: They could still throw the hill mary. 303 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: But understanding they probably with the time with eight seconds, 304 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: they're going to try and get closer to getting field 305 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: goal range. They're at the ball at the thirty five, 306 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: the Washington thirty five. There's six seconds left. That's still 307 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: plenty of time to be able to get the ball 308 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: down the field. 309 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: Little bit. 310 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: They don't play this. They got everybody down the field. 311 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: There's nobody protecting the sidelines. It's the easiest fifteen yards 312 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: to put them in position to make the hail mary throw. 313 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I just didn't understand with the situations 314 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: being so similar, why would you have a different approach 315 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: end of half than you had at the end of 316 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: the game. 317 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: That didn't make any sense to me. 318 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense. 319 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 5: And it's unfortunate that they had to learn our hard lesson, 320 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 5: But it's one that I bet you from the rest 321 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 5: of his career, Tyrick Stevenson will learn how to play 322 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 5: the haile Mary. 323 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about him goofing off with 324 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 4: the crowd and. 325 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 5: Not being focus and locked in, you would hope, because 326 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 5: it costs his team a game. 327 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, luck, we could spend we could spend thirty 328 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: more minutes on this game, but crazy crazy finished. Positive note, 329 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: both these teams have their franchise quarterbacks and they're both 330 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: going to be competitive, good football teams for the next decade. 331 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: So that was fun to see. Baltimore Cleveland. Biggest surprise 332 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: of the day reht and that result. 333 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, because the guy who was the emergency third quarterback 334 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: last week ended up starting and have a gem of 335 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: a game. We got good Jamis Winston on this day 336 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 3: for the Cleveland Browns. So here's a couple of things. 337 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: The Browns coming into this game had never had more 338 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: than five explosive passing plays in a game this season. 339 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: Fifteen plus passing yards is where we'll go on the 340 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: categorization of that. And the five the game where they 341 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: had five was the week before in which Shaun Watson 342 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: didn't play the whole game and you had dtr and 343 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: Jamis come in. 344 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 6: Before that, it was never more than four. 345 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: They had ten explosive plays in the passing game here, 346 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: doubling their previous season high. It also led the league 347 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: this week, and it was you know, also keeping in 348 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: mind they shipped to Marty Cooper out, this was you know, 349 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: this was Elijah Moore, this was David Nijoku, and so 350 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: I thought that that was really big that Jamis was 351 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: opening up the capabilities of this offense. 352 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 6: Also, average depth of target three yards deeper. 353 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: That's a big difference than it had been for much 354 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: of this season. And Jamis time to throw quicker than 355 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: any quarterback for any for any Browns game this season. 356 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 6: Two point four to four seconds. 357 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: Ball was coming out of his hands, so he's seeing it, 358 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: he's pushing the ball down the field, and he's executing 359 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: it right there. I thought that was huge for this 360 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: Browns offense. And man, he was able to keep the 361 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: ball out of the hands of the Ravens, which you know, 362 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: you were always kind of waiting for that other shoot 363 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: to drop. 364 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 6: But I thought that was. 365 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: A big time performance from Jameis Winston in this one. Obviously, 366 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: none bigger on the explosive side than the thirty eight 367 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: yarder for the game winner. 368 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me put this in some perspective here. 369 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: Only two other quarterbacks went for three hundred and three 370 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: passing touchdowns in a win in his first start of 371 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: a season on a team that was five games below 372 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: five hundred. That's John staffa not familiar of the sixty 373 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: six Dolphins and Lend Dickey know the name seventy three Oilers. Yeah, 374 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: so that's that's rare company there for what he accomplished. 375 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: But I'll get it to you this way, Buck, if 376 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: you did a lineup right, if we were to just say, okay, 377 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: we're going to try and pick out the quarterback here, 378 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: which one is not like the other in terms of 379 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: how they play. If you just put on the tape 380 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: and you watched historically over their career, the way that 381 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston plays football, the way Joe Flacco plays football, 382 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: the way Deshaun Watson plays football, there's a reason why 383 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: these other two guys have had success in this system. 384 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: This is and I'm not here to back Deshaun Watson, 385 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: but everybody's talked about Deshaun Watson's ability. This is not 386 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: a fit. It was not a fit from the beginning. 387 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: It did not work. This is not the right quarterback 388 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: style of play for this offense. Then they tried to 389 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: change the offense to fit him. Well, that didn't work. 390 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, this offense runs best 391 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: with a statue esque pure pocket passer. Get the ball 392 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: out of your hand, that's what Joe Flacco is and 393 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: as we can see, that's what Jameis Winston is is 394 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: even more than that. 395 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 5: Let's break it down to it is teams that are 396 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 5: good running teams. The passing game should be a vertical 397 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 5: based passing game. And what you have in Joe Flacco 398 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 5: and Jamis Winston guys that want to push the ball 399 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: down the field. Because if you're throwing off action, deeper 400 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 5: developing routes, you're looking for the home run shot against 401 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 5: one on one coverage. Jameis Winston, Joe Flacco, they take that. 402 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 5: With Deshaun Watson, that's not his game. Dejean Watson is 403 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 5: more of a West Coast offensive system, something that is 404 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 5: not dink and dump, but something that's more ball control. 405 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 5: Jameis Winston is going to push the ball down the field, now, 406 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 5: no risky, no biscuit. There're gonna be more turnovers that happen, 407 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 5: But as you said, the reward more explosive plays, ten 408 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 5: explosive plays in the passing game. With Nick Chubb coming back, 409 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 5: the running game like it is a better fit for 410 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 5: how the Browns want to play. When you have a 411 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 5: guy that wants to push it down the field. 412 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 6: James's favorite checkdown is a deep post. 413 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: Oh, there's no checkout. We're not taking checkdowns. Yeah, you're right. 414 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: Hey, you're gonna push it out the field. By the way, Ratt, 415 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: hitch you on this first and we'll go around. But yeah, 416 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: are we panicking yet? 417 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: Like, I haven't seen the Ravens play bad defense like 418 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: this in a long time. Man, they stay on defense 419 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: right now. 420 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was definitely popped up. 421 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: And yeah, and I mean obviously, you know, missing their 422 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: their top two corners I think is a big deal 423 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 3: here too, on a game like this. But I mean, 424 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 3: like we had You might remember last time we heard 425 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 3: from Elijah Moore in a Cleveland Browns uniform. I mean 426 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 3: he shows up today, Nidjoku comes up, you know, and 427 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 3: shows up with that pro Bowl type talent that we 428 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 3: saw from him, and I mean, yeah, it is alarming. 429 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 6: I think Kyle Hamilton again was all over the place. 430 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 3: And look, he probably dropped an interception right that might 431 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: have ended the game before the Tillman touchdown. 432 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 6: So I mean, they it could have been a little 433 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 6: bit different. 434 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 3: But I would say for this team to realize it's 435 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: full potential, there's got to be some some changes to 436 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: what they're doing over there on the defensive side. 437 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 5: Well, they actually knew that they needed to add something 438 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 5: to it. They bring Dan Peace in to Dan Pece 439 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 5: comes over to be like a mentor because Zachary Or 440 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 5: is a first time defensive play caller and he's doing 441 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 5: it for a team that is known for their defense, 442 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 5: which is a lot of pressure. And if they don't 443 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: fix the defense, like they're limited. The offense can take 444 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 5: them so far, but they can't deal with the heavyweights 445 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 5: in the AFC if they don't play great defense. We're 446 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 5: seeing that and the fact that they lose the game 447 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 5: against the Cleveland Browns, that's. 448 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 4: Just sound the a large. 449 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 5: We saw Marcus Williams get benched in the game. They 450 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 5: talked about the coverage issues in those things. Yeah, I'm 451 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 5: worried about Baltimore because we've always been able to count 452 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 5: the defense showing up, but now the defense isn't showing up. 453 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 4: So that's that's problematic. 454 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: By the way, jamis on that near pick, ifs and 455 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: should and would have could as don't mean anything so. 456 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 5: Small man, as we say, long foul ball, long foul. 457 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 1: Ball, next pitch is all the matters, all right, We'll 458 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: see what happens with the Ravens. I wouldn't surprised too 459 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: the trade deadline approaching, they'll do something like the They. 460 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: Will be aggressive. I would be shocked if they aren't. 461 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: They have a history of going out trying to fix 462 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 1: some words here, so we'll see what they do, all right. 463 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: We don't even spend as long a time on this one. 464 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: Buck San Francisco Dallas weird game like it just looked 465 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: like it was over and with San Francisco firmly in control, 466 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: and then Seedee Lamb got going a little bit. Dallas 467 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: came back and made it a ballgame, but still not enough. 468 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, still not enough. 469 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 5: It's weird, man, because I feel like the Cowboys are 470 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 5: overmatched every time they step onto the field against the top. 471 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: Team, and this kind of played out like that. 472 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting listening to the call where 473 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 5: they talked about the nine and just felt like they 474 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 5: could wear the Cowboys down and they would beat them 475 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 5: down and eventually they would crack. 476 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: And that's kind of what took place. 477 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 5: And that has been the thing that has hurt them 478 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 5: against some of the top teams in the NFC. They 479 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 5: just don't have the staying power to go for sixty 480 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 5: four minutes for the Cowboys. I think Mike McCarthy would 481 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 5: try and build off of this performance because they did 482 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 5: fight back. They got back in and had a chance, 483 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 5: you know, to make it happen in the tilted in 484 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 5: their favor. 485 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: We couldn't do it, but you have to admired to fight. 486 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 5: I just don't know if there's enough on this roster 487 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 5: to give them a chance to get into the postseason. 488 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is tough. 489 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a team that's really failing in 490 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: two major categories that are conduced to team success running 491 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: the football and stop in the run. And we've talked 492 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: about it. I feel like for the last couple of 493 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: weeks here with the Niners or with the cut with 494 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 3: the Cowboys, rather the run defense is bad. 495 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 6: It's just that that's all there is to it. 496 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: I mean we're talking about I know, it's the scheme 497 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 3: here with with what since, with what San Francisco wants 498 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: to do. But you know, Isaac Garrindo came in and 499 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: again it just looks like another one of those backs 500 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 3: that steps in and find success for San Francisco. The 501 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: Cowboys have allowed sixty eight first downs this year on 502 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: the ground that is at the very bottom of the league. Minnesota, 503 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 3: for comparison, is tops in the league in that category, 504 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: and they've allowed twenty three. 505 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 6: That is a huge gap. 506 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: Like you are getting gashed on the ground when you're 507 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: giving up chain moving plays like that on the ground, 508 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: and look the they're on the field too long and 509 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: they're you know, they're just getting beat up front. I 510 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 3: don't think they have an if they're in the interior, 511 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: like Lynvald Joseph Mazzi Smith, I don't feel like the 512 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: answer is there up front, and they can't run the 513 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: ball on offense, so like it's just that that to me, 514 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 3: no matter how I mean, Ceede Lamb might go for 515 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 3: two hundred yards. 516 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 6: Next week and they still might lose. 517 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: Like it's just it just feels like the formula that 518 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 3: they have that they've been showing right here is just 519 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: it's not available for them to find consistent wins. 520 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: Well, I can finish it up on this thought. 521 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: With Dallas Cowboys, there's only one thing they need to do, 522 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: and they will fix the run game, and it's it's 523 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: it's pretty simple. It probably costs a lot of money, 524 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: but they need to go buy a DeLorean because if 525 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: they can go back in time about seven years, the 526 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: fact that they have Mozekil Elliott and Dalvin Cook, I mean, 527 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: this run game would be would be pretty dynamic and good. 528 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: Shoot twenty seven years ago, twenty eighteen, let's go. 529 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I don't know. 530 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: I haven't seen many Deloreans for sale lately, so that's 531 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: going to be a challenge. But this is something that 532 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: was easy a club easily predicted. We talked about it, 533 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: we harped on it at the draft with all the 534 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: running backs that were like, Alie, it's got to be 535 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: something you can do here. This is not a position 536 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: where you age gracefully and they are dependent on older 537 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: running backs. 538 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: That is not ideal. 539 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: So tough loss for the Dallas Cowboys, big win for 540 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: the Niners. They climb back to four and four, and 541 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: we're going to cruise to Detroit, which I don't know 542 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: if that's ever been done before. We're gonna go to 543 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: Detroit where the Lions absolutely beat the stuffing out of 544 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. I mean, I'm sure this is the 545 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: question that's going to be asked on every talk show. 546 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to go there because it's pretty silly, 547 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: but I mean, I know they've got one loss, but 548 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: how do this How do you say this isn't the 549 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: best team in the NFL based off what the Lions 550 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: look like right now? 551 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: Buck, I'll give you that one first. 552 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 553 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 5: No, what's interesting is listening to Dan Campbell's comments after 554 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 5: the game, where we talked about, hey, guys, those are 555 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 5: great performance, but we know we didn't play our best, 556 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 5: and so the good thing is we can improve without 557 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 5: playing our best. 558 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 4: Look at the Lions. The Lions don't have a glenaring weakness. 559 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 5: We can talk about the pass rush without eight and 560 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 5: Hudgson and do they have enough to comple it together? 561 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 5: But when you look at the entire roster, offensive line 562 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 5: is rock solid, playmakers, good lower on the perimeter of 563 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 5: the passing game. 564 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 4: Quarterback is the franchise quarterback. 565 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 5: Defensively, yes, eight hutsons in a shell, but you got 566 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 5: a bunch of hard working, blue collar guys on the 567 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 5: front line. 568 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 4: Secondary, you've upgraded. I mean, they have it all. 569 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 5: And then when you go to the kicking game where 570 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 5: a lot of people don't pay attention, they really improve 571 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 5: that and become explosive in dead area. They check off 572 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 5: the boxes in every category when it comes to being 573 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 5: the championship. 574 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 3: Team, way do they great point and just doing a 575 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: little quick tabulation on this front, Kire golf has thrown 576 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 3: it was just a three six seven. We're talking about 577 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: thirteen incompletions in the last four games. And answer you 578 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson at twenty two in this one game for 579 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: the Colts, which I know we'll get to in just 580 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: a little bit, but golf has been so and the 581 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 3: fact that he threw for eighty five yards in this 582 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: game and they won by what if thirty five plus 583 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: points is incredible. Now you talked about defense offense, We 584 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 3: talked about that a lot here with with the Detroit 585 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 3: Lions on both sides of the ball, with the third 586 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: side of the ball showed up in a big way 587 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: for the Lions. Here Khalif Raymond a little bit of 588 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: a revenge game. Former Tennessee Titan has probably the best 589 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 3: punt return game we've seen from any player this season. 590 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: Should have had two long punt return touchdowns, ends up 591 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: with this ninety yard er on your screen right now, 592 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 3: and then comes back and has the next score on 593 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 3: offense for the Lions. Like I mean, when this dude 594 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 3: is impacting the game that way, combined with all the 595 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: other top tier talent that they have. 596 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 6: Yes, DJ, the Lions are the best team in football. 597 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the ab c's and I'll go 598 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: to D the level D on the Lions here because 599 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: this is what it is when you watch them. They 600 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: are aggressive, they are balanced, they are creative, and they 601 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: are dynamic. That is ABC and it's every single week 602 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: where you see all facets of that approach and I 603 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: don't know that any other team has that. I know 604 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are undefeated. A Chiefs defense is no joke. 605 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: They're outstanding. You're starting to see Mahomes kind of get 606 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more going with the passing game. But 607 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: they are not as dynamic. They are not as explosive 608 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: as the Detroit Lions are. And the Detroit Lions, I 609 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: think are better up front along the offensive line. So 610 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: when we're looking at you know, big picture and what 611 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: could be a showdown looming, a Super Bowl showdown looming 612 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: based off. 613 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: Just the eye test. 614 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: And I'm reluctant to say it because anytime I ever say, 615 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, somebody looks better than the Chiefs, the Chiefs 616 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: inevitably going to go on and win the Super Bowl 617 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: and they should still be that favorite. But just who's 618 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: who's the most impressive right now? I would say the 619 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions buck have been. You know, they've been the 620 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: NFL's most impressive team. 621 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 5: I mean they're impressive because you know, it's funny were 622 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 5: talking about the Cowboys in the previous segment. 623 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 4: And they don't have an identity, like based. 624 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 5: On their formula for success doesn't really matter the personnel 625 00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 5: than those things. 626 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 4: Detroit. 627 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 5: I feel like Detroit their roster matches the grit and 628 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 5: the toughness of the city, which has been touted by 629 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 5: Dan Campbell and Bray Holmes. They have really built this 630 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 5: team in the image of the city and they're going 631 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 5: to blue collar people to sleep and their physicality, their toughness, the. 632 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: Way they can overwhelm you with forsa finess. They have 633 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 4: a roster. 634 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 5: Man, if we were playing a video game, this is 635 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 5: a team that I would pick up the sticks and play. 636 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 637 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: No, it's impressive there what they accomplished. We didn't spend 638 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: much time talking about the Tennessee Titans, but at one 639 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: and six they didn't earn it to be honest with you, 640 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: they didn't earn the discussion time there on what. 641 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 2: Was rolled wrong with them. 642 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: They get a long ways to go, and I think 643 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: you'll continue to see them sell off pieces and try 644 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: and work towards the future. 645 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 2: There buck your game, green Bay Jacksonville. 646 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 4: You know, like, here's the thing. I'm gonna take the 647 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 4: Green Bay part of it. 648 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 5: DJ coaching matters, And it is amazing to watch Malie 649 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 5: Willis play for the Green Bay Packers after watching him 650 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 5: play for a couple of years in Tennessee. Jordan Love 651 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 5: gets heart, goes out, Malie Willis comes in, and their 652 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 5: offense explodes. 653 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 4: Run game, Josh Jacobs put it. 654 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 5: On the bag, made a couple of plays, but then 655 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 5: it was Malik making plays, you know, being able to 656 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 5: kind of connect on a few throws and showcasing his 657 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 5: running ability and scrambling and all of that. 658 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 4: His confidence is completely intact. And this version of Elie 659 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 4: Willis looks like the. 660 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 5: Version that people were trying to project when he was 661 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 5: in the draft and they were talking about him being 662 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 5: a first round pick. 663 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 6: Man. 664 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, for Green Bay, that's quite a luxury to have. 665 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: As I know, they're thankful that Jordan Love seems to 666 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: have escaped a big injury with the groin. I kind 667 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: of thought it was the knee the way he was 668 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: moving around on that thing earlier coming back to haunt 669 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: him a little bit. But yeah, I mean Josh Jacobs 670 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: goes for one hundred and twenty seven yards certainly helps 671 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 3: Malik Willis's cause there in the second half utilized craft again. 672 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 6: Those young receivers continue to show. 673 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: Up and then look on the on the flip side 674 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 3: for the Jaguars, man, it just took took too long 675 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: to get rolling in this one, it felt like. And 676 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: now they they're dealing with, you know, more injuries, right, 677 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior went out of the game, so you know, 678 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: you as him and Kirk whoa Now, yeah, Christian Kirk 679 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: obviously with what looked like, you know, a shoulder collar 680 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 3: bone of some sort. Man, that's gosh, you're just losing 681 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: targets here for a team that can't afford to DJ. 682 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there goes also a trade chip too, if 683 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: you were, you know, entertaining the thought of potentially trading 684 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, that's out the window once he's done the shelf. Now, 685 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: so I hate to see that for him. Look, Green Bay, 686 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: there's still some flaws there, but I'm telling you they 687 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: are young on defense and they fly around. They're fun 688 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: to watch. Just how much speed they've collected on that 689 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Eddrin Cooper, we talked about him 690 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: last week. He continues to make her splash plays. He 691 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: is a good player. He's going to be fun to watch, 692 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: a big a big piece of their defense. So big 693 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: win there for the Green Bay Packers. From the game 694 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: Bucky was at to the game, I wo is that 695 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: Saints Chargers. Look, the Saints are not good. Shuffled quarterbacks around. 696 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: Jake Haner got in there and made some plays and 697 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: some throws late. 698 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: Chris o'lave. 699 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: If we're gonna say trade targets, and I don't think 700 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: they will trade Chris Alabbe, but if you're looking at 701 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: the receivers, the names that have at least been mentioned, 702 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: and seeing him live and in person, that'd be the 703 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: top of my list. 704 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: I would flip a two for Chris Olave all day. 705 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: I would happily part with. 706 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: The second round pick for him, and especially looking at 707 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: the draft up ahead. I haven't got deep into it yet, 708 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: but talking to a lot of folks not as top 709 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: end heavy at the wide receiver position, so give even 710 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: more reason if you're looking for a weapon. Chris Alave 711 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: could be one of those guys, but only eight points 712 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: two of those on a safety on a bad punt snap. 713 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: So Chargers defense is number one scoring defense in the NFL. 714 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: That number is going to go down after what they 715 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: held the Saints too in this game. Rock solid on 716 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: that side of the ball. But the big takeaway from 717 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: me rhtt is, you know this is a team that, 718 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: even though they haven't run it effectively, always felt like, man, 719 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: if you're going to commit to the run as much 720 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: as they do and run it as much as they do, 721 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: you have to pay that off with some chunk plays 722 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: down the field. And whether they were successful running the 723 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: ball or not, they hadn't been able to get big 724 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: explosive plays, and they did in this game. Lad McConkie 725 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: had one hundred yard game. He got vertical down the field. 726 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: Josh Palmer got vertical down the field. Even Jalen Rager 727 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: made the best catch of his NFL career on a 728 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: deep ball down the field, and it was like, okay, 729 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: you can see the vision. I know the Saints stink 730 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: on defense too, So I don't want to get it 731 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: carried away here, but this is the vision of what 732 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: it looks like is be able to pay off these 733 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: runs ret and be able to capitalize with some chunk plays. 734 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: Yeah when you go through and you're looking at McConkie, 735 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 3: you know, had the sixty yard er right, Palmer with 736 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: the forty five yard or even if the recept even 737 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: if like the volume right isn't up there. In terms 738 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: of you know, completions and receptions from a lot of 739 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 3: these guys, that's it. They're meaningful and they're impactful, and 740 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: I think that's what we saw with McConkie. You know, 741 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: I was super happy to see him get this career 742 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: game right. Six catches on, six targets and two tuddies too. 743 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 3: You know, just a big time performance for a guy 744 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: that you know, was one of our favorites on path 745 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: to the draft coming out this year and has really 746 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 3: started to kind of come into his own here now 747 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: that some of that injury stuff is behind it. 748 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, really big performance for lad mccocky. But I think 749 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 4: this is it. 750 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 5: We talked about it with the Browns run game, vertical 751 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 5: passing game, strong run game. 752 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 4: Got to take it down to field with Justin Herbert. 753 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 5: You can see he has the arm talentent to really 754 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 5: fit into this type of system. It's a matter do 755 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 5: they have enough playmakers, but the playmakers are minimized because 756 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 5: the running games affectiveness. Ors's defense is to play one 757 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 5: on one. That's why you're seeing these teams take advantage 758 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 5: of it. When you got ring game, good quarterback, vertical passing. 759 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: Game, yeah, no question there, big win the Chargers again. 760 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: The schedule sets up for them. They go to Cleveland 761 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: this week, so those two vertical passing games. But he's 762 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: talking about we'll see them both on display. Looking forward 763 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: to being out there. 764 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 3: Go ahead, right, I mean, we're not going to shout 765 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: out Matt Locke for a sack interception in this game. 766 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: I know, and a reception? How about that? 767 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 4: Well? 768 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: I told Harba, I told coach Harpall a couple of 769 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: weeks ago that he's sponsible for every scout uh being 770 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: responsible for working out defensive tackles as fullbacks at every 771 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: pro day from here. 772 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: To the time. 773 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 6: Good luck. 774 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: That's a little later flight, thanks, get a little later 775 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: flight after those pro days, you guys spend a little 776 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: extra time in those D line and see if they 777 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: can catch h Buck. Atlanta Tampa Bay. This is a division, 778 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: is kind of a funky division. But it's a big 779 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: win here for the Atlanta Falcons as they get to 780 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: five and three the Bucks they fall to four and 781 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: four in a game where they didn't have any of 782 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: their receivers. 783 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 5: Well more importantly, they break out the broom like if 784 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 5: you're able to get get get them up out of here. 785 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 5: And so Nattie went to sweep. You're talking about being 786 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 5: able to win to tabreak and all those things. 787 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 4: Uh. 788 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 5: The Atlanta Falcons are funny because they really rally behind kirku. 789 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins has them going. He's been hot, he's playing 790 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 5: well for them. This is kind of what Raheem Morris 791 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 5: and those guys were hoping for when they made the 792 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 5: move to give Kirk Cousins the bag to be their 793 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 5: starting quarterback. 794 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 6: Man. Can they play Todd Bowles's defense every week? 795 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 4: Shoot? 796 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 6: I mean they're gonna close. 797 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: They started this month with just an absolute gem of 798 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: a performance on a Thursday night, and they're going to 799 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: end this month with a sweep of the Bucks. And like, 800 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 3: think about how much this game means he Yeah, it 801 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 3: was great to see Kyle Pitts make two touchdown grabs 802 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 3: right and get into the end zone a couple of 803 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 3: times from Kirk, who was on fire in this game. 804 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: How I mean like they have now swept the team 805 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: that is by far the most viable contender to challenge them. 806 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 6: At the top of the division. 807 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: So if it's even remotely close coming down to it, 808 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 3: the Falcons own that the important tie breakers in this thing. 809 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 3: So I think this game was was huge for Kirk 810 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 3: Cousins and the Falcons. And then look, I think for 811 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 3: Baker and the Bucks, some real fight there. To be 812 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: without god Win, to be without Mike Evans, I think 813 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 3: you saw a bona fide weapon emerging. Kate otten right 814 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 3: two touchdowns in this game, caught nine of ten targets 815 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: and went for Dan near one hundred yards. It's happened 816 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: to be National tight end Day. So showed up in 817 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: a big way. And I think that something that you 818 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 3: can build on as you move forward here if you're 819 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 3: the Bucks and hopefully you get Chris, you get Mike 820 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 3: Evans back here soon. 821 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 822 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: Again, huge for the Atlanta Falcons to be able to 823 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: pick up both those wins against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 824 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: and I. 825 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: Think this the NFC is better than the AFC. I 826 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: think that the field is loaded. 827 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how much confidence I have the Falcons 828 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: to get in the tournament and do a lot of 829 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: damage and won a bunch of ball games. But when 830 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: you're trying with a new setup, you've got a young 831 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: coaching staff here, you want to see, you know, some 832 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: good steps be taken. Man, they're in a great position 833 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: to go ahead and compete to win this thing. So 834 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: win the division and then kind of lift off from there, 835 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: and nobody's talking about, you know, Pennix Kirk Cousins and 836 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: did you pay Kirk too much? Did you draft Penix 837 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: when you shouldn't have? You win the division and everything's great. 838 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: So they're a very good spot there, very good spot there, 839 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: no question. All right, let's get to the AFC East 840 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: here with Man, there's a lot of different ways we 841 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: can go on this one. The Jets go to New 842 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: England and lose. They fall to two and six. Drake May, 843 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: who was playing well before getting hurt, he goes out. 844 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette comes in and leads a comeback there for 845 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Buck, This is a I mean, 846 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how much this provides 847 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: for New England. I guess it lessens a little bit 848 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: of the outside criticism, some of the friendly fire, the 849 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick friendly fire maybe ceases to exist for a 850 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: week here, but man devastating from from a Jets standpoint, Yeah, look, 851 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: it's over so gay. 852 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 4: To quarterback everything you wanted, and they've gotten worse. 853 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 5: If I had a coach and everything, and they're just 854 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 5: in a free for all, and I just don't know 855 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 5: how you fix them. 856 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 4: You know, you bring her Son Reddick back. 857 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 5: I mean, like you're trying to do everything and you 858 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 5: still can't get it going. 859 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 4: And the crazy thing. 860 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 5: Is this office is as bad, if not worse in 861 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 5: the office when Zach Wilson was running it. I mean 862 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 5: did not sco at any points, no explosive plays. 863 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 4: It's just a hodgepodge of nothingness. 864 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 5: And they're gonna have a tough time like continue defeated 865 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 5: because you knew that the Patriots. If the Patriots can 866 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 5: stymy them, anybody's gonna stymy them going forward. 867 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 4: They're just not explosive enough to be able to wing games. 868 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean listening to Aaron Rodgers, you know, after 869 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 3: the game talk about you know, it's fundamentals like. 870 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 6: Week eight talking about you know, we're talking about fundamentals. 871 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: We're talking about he's talking about play calls coming into 872 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 3: the sidelines, so about not getting out of huddle quick enough, talking. 873 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 6: About substitution errors. No, I guess that's part. I guess 874 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 6: that's part of it. 875 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 3: You know, when you're changing staff, right, and you're changing 876 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 3: you know, responsibilities within the staff, and you do have 877 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 3: some moving pieces. But I mean this that is discovered. First, 878 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 3: it was last week. It was not having the juice, 879 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 3: not having the energy, didn't feel like it were up 880 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 3: of the game. Now we're talking about you know what 881 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 3: sounds like fairly rudimentary stuff, you know, day one stuff, right, 882 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 3: Personnel groupings, you're talking about, you know, operation with play 883 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 3: calls and getting out of the huddle. I mean, I'm 884 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 3: wondering here, and I know the answer is no, because 885 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 3: they play New York and Aaron Rodgers is there and 886 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 3: there's always going to be a microphone. 887 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 6: But it's at this point do the Jets just kind 888 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 6: of fade off into the ether here? I mean, at 889 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 6: some point they. 890 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 5: Have to why we're gonna keep putting the more TV, 891 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 5: the on every prime chide. 892 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 4: Like what, huh, we don't need to keep seeing this product. 893 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 894 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: Look, my thing is just it's just different. And I 895 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: know people appreciate the honesty. And there's no other quarterback 896 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: that has the platform that Aaron has on a weekly basis. 897 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: I just it's so odd to me not to just 898 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: see the quarterback just own everything. You own everything. I 899 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: just everybody, every quarterback that I've ever seen or been around, 900 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 1: or it'd be great quarterback that you've ever followed, fuck 901 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: have you. 902 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 2: I don't remember that, at least publicly. 903 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing if you're in a meeting 904 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: and like, hey on details, like coaches, we got to 905 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: get plays in on time, you know, we got to 906 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: we got to be where we need to be. We're 907 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: lining up wrong, just simple stuff that can't happen. And 908 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: then even in that setting, the players will take you know, 909 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: the quarterback will take responsibility. And I've done this, this 910 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: and this, and you know what, I'm sick of the 911 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: way I'm playing and I'm going to be better. But 912 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: I've just never seen it where the quarterback publicly doesn't 913 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: take one hundred percent ownership. Fuck am I am? I 914 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: remembering incorrectly here. You played with some Hall of Fame quarterbacks. 915 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: Now do you remember that. 916 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 5: DJ the quarterback owns everything publicly. Privately he lays into everybody, 917 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 5: But publicly, hey. 918 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 4: Man, that's on me. I can do a better job. Yeada, YadA, YadA. 919 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 5: But but passing blame and doing that thing, it doesn't work. 920 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 5: But I'm telling you, man, under pressure, your true colors 921 00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 5: come out. 922 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 4: The leadership or lack the shows up. 923 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 5: And he has not been a good leader during this 924 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 5: crisis that the Jets are in the midst of. 925 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: It feels to me just like someone who's getting to 926 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: the end of his career and is not coming to 927 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: grips with it, you know what I mean. 928 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: And defensively they're not as good. 929 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: My theory on the defense, and then we'll move on 930 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: the last thought here, But my theory on the defense 931 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 1: is they had the feeling of we have to be 932 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: so dialed in and so locked in and so perfect, 933 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: like you can't exhale. That's the way they've played defense 934 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: the last few years, and they've been excellent at it, 935 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: and they've known what the bar was for them to 936 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 1: keep their team in football games, and they and they delivered, 937 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: And I honestly think, and it's probably just subconscious, but Okay, 938 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: we've got a Hall of Fame quarterback. Now he's got 939 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: all these MVPs, Like, we can exhale a little bit. 940 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: We don't have to be so locked in because it's 941 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: exhausting to be locked in to play at a high 942 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: level like that every week. And I think they kind 943 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: of lost a little bit of their edge. And oh, 944 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: by the way, they're not getting it what they thought 945 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: they were going to get from the offense. So now 946 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: you've got an offense it's still as bad as it's 947 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: really been, and you've got a defense that, under the 948 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: assumption they wouldn't have to do everything, is not as 949 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: good as they used to be. So long story longer, 950 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: it's a it's a mess. It's a mess there, Yeah, yeah, 951 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: all right, Arizona in Miami. I was excited to see 952 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 1: the cutups in this game of Marvin Harrison Junior having 953 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: a big game as they beat the Miami dolfense. 954 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 6: Buck. 955 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: I'll get to you on that one first, but it 956 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: was nice seeing Marvin Harrison on runaway routes like, he's 957 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: not a curl comeback, work back to the quarterback, route runner. 958 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: That's not who he is. He is an on the 959 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: move guy. He is overs, he is slants, he is digs. 960 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: It's run after catch like that's what he is. Everything's 961 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 1: on the move, and he's a great player. It's it's 962 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: that's why. It was just kind of baffling to me 963 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: how they were deploying them over the last few weeks. 964 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: And lo and behold they get him on the movie 965 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: as a big day and they go on a ball game. 966 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of crazy how that is, right, Like, they 967 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 5: get him on the move, they treat him and put 968 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 5: him in the right situation and allow him to have success. 969 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 5: And well, look, we talked about it because on paths 970 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 5: to the draft, we frequently talk about operating instructions. Sometimes 971 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 5: it takes teams a little bit to figure out how 972 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 5: to operate their top picks. And I'm just glad that 973 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 5: the Cardinals figured it out. This is a talented player, 974 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 5: is a big body player, a number one receiver, and 975 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 5: they got him the ball and you saw the impact 976 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 5: that he had on the game. 977 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was obviously important for the Cardinals. 978 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 4: Trade. 979 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 3: McBride obviously went off as well with a massive day. 980 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 3: Those two guys. Man, that could be fun to watch 981 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 3: for the next few years with Kyler Murray and company 982 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 3: and where they can most of the time get that 983 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 3: run game going. 984 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,919 Speaker 6: The other piece of it is obviously to a tungo by. 985 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 3: Lowe's return, right, And I think you saw that not 986 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 3: only did that unlock some things in what they wanted 987 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 3: to do to get Tyreek kill the football and that 988 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 3: the run game was back or the Miami Dolphins. 989 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 6: And I think that was such a big deal. 990 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 3: And obviously the impact of having Tua back having to 991 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 3: make some of those decisions, having the threat of what 992 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 3: he can do through the air, it really unlocked Devin 993 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 3: h Devon h Chan who went for ninety seven yards 994 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 3: in this one, caught a bunch of balls too, and 995 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 3: then Moster gets into the end zone. Couple like that's 996 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 3: starting to get more like it. 997 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 6: You know, do they have enough time? 998 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 2: Right? 999 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 3: Do the Dolphins have enough time to make up what 1000 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 3: they lost over the course of the last month or 1001 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 3: so with two out so certainly good to see. I 1002 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 3: think they're going to start kind of making their way 1003 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 3: back on that positive trend. 1004 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 4: Line here. 1005 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it definitely looked different in a good way 1006 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins offensively. RTT go back to you 1007 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: on this one, Indy Houston, and there we can hit 1008 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: the Anthony Richardson thing if you want to start there 1009 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: where they go moving forward. They're a four and four 1010 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: team right now, Houston six and two, not playing their 1011 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: best football, but finding ways to win ball games. 1012 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1013 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're the the Bears, maybe you maybe 1014 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 3: you take a page out of the Texans playbook on 1015 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 3: the hail Mary attempt at the end, right, they put 1016 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 3: the three defensive linemen left of the center to force 1017 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson out to his left because they didn't want 1018 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 3: him throw him right. And then they bring a guy 1019 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 3: essentially kind of trapped him right, and then they bring 1020 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 3: one of the three loop him all the way around. 1021 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 3: There was nowhere to go. He didn't even get to 1022 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 3: throw off, and the game was over. Ball came out 1023 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 3: Will Anderson jumps on it. And that's a way to 1024 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 3: prevent the Tyreek Stevenson piece of the play all the 1025 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 3: way down the field right, just sack the dang guy 1026 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 3: before he even gets the ball off. So you know 1027 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 3: that's something and look, I mean the Texans formula is clear. 1028 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 3: It's Joe Mixon, Stefan Diggs goes down in this game, 1029 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 3: waiting to see what happens there. That's tough because Nico 1030 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 3: Collins is out, has been out. Hopefully he's on the 1031 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 3: way back. 1032 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 6: I mean. 1033 00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson thing now, I mean there's a there's GFF 1034 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 3: has a stat right, the adjusted completion percentage, because right 1035 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 3: now the regular one is bad. Right, it's thirty two percent, 1036 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 3: ten out of thirty two on the day. The adjusted 1037 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 3: completion percentage, which accounts for overthrows, tips, you know, throw 1038 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 3: not overthrows, throwaways, tips, drops, but it's only forty four percent. 1039 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 3: It did not get that much better. So that is 1040 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 3: still horribly short of winning football. And Sintsteiken said today 1041 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 3: when asked if they were evaluating Anthony Richardson, they're evaluating everything, 1042 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 3: which is kind of like the non answer answer. 1043 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 2: Well, that tells you start next week, is what that 1044 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 2: tells you? 1045 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 6: Right, what tells you? 1046 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I've never I've never said we're gonna take a 1047 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: tap look at this, and it's ended up being, you 1048 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: know what, much better than we thought, much better than 1049 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: we thought. 1050 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 2: That's not usually how that works. 1051 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 6: And then the tap out thing, I don't buck. 1052 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 4: I don't know them well man, like you can't just 1053 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 4: don't know. 1054 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 5: There's certain things that quarterbacks can't do. The quarterback can 1055 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 5: that willingly take himself. 1056 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 2: I've never seen it before, never seen one. 1057 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 5: But this isn't not high school at any level, not 1058 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 5: even in high school. 1059 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 4: When you're the starting quarterback, you're staying the game. 1060 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 5: You call a different play, call a running play, call 1061 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 5: something that's not you run it truck, don't. The quarterback 1062 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 5: does not tap himself out like that is the craziest 1063 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 5: thing that I've ever seen it. Now, I'll say this 1064 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 5: because I wrote a thing in the notebook about and 1065 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 5: they need to send Anthony Richardson down for his own good. 1066 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 5: He's dead last in completion percentage, passer rating, all of 1067 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 5: these things. And if you're going to develop him, there's 1068 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 5: nothing wrong with having. 1069 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 4: Him sit down for a year or two, let him 1070 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,919 Speaker 4: develop on the practice fuel. 1071 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 5: But this team, as a head coach, you owt to 1072 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 5: your team to give them the best chance to win. 1073 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 5: He is not the best quarterback on their roster. They 1074 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 5: need to put Joe Flecco in continue to develop him. 1075 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 5: And maybe he turns out. But what you can't do 1076 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 5: is let Anthony Richardson be the albatross that holds the 1077 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 5: coach back and do that. 1078 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I. 1079 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 3: Mean you take him off the field like the guy 1080 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 3: hadn't played five games in a row. 1081 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 2: You know. 1082 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 3: I just I don't know how he's gonna get any better. 1083 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 3: And yeah, but it's clear I agree with you. It's 1084 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 3: clearly Joe Flaham, like, that's the answer. 1085 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 2: I was just thinking of it. 1086 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: Okay, say that you're just so exhausted, like I can't 1087 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 1: I can't catch my breath enough to literally take a snap. 1088 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,760 Speaker 1: I was like, if you gave it a multiple choice, 1089 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 1: no multiple choice, multiple choice options here, buck, you're ready. 1090 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: Number one, you just flat out call a timeout and 1091 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: you come over to the coach and say about I 1092 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: can't catch my breath. I had to call timeout. That's 1093 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 1: that's a okay, b I pretend that I can't get 1094 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: the play call on my headset, something's malfunction in my helmet. 1095 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 2: I put my I put. 1096 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: My hand over my ears, and I just go, I 1097 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: got to call a time out. And you come over 1098 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: there and sat and I just couldn't understand you. That's 1099 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: option two, Option three. As Buck said, I'm just going 1100 00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: to change the plays. I'm just calling a running play. 1101 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: I gotta catch my breath, you know, and apologize to 1102 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: the coaches later. Option four is you tap out of 1103 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: a game like there's no no quarterback I've ever heard 1104 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: of in my life that faced with those choices, would 1105 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 1: choose option four. 1106 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 6: Option four, Option four hundred. 1107 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 4: There's yeah, I appreciate the honesty. I appreciate the honesty, 1108 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 4: but that is not sure. That is that is not make. 1109 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: An injury option. That's another option we can get. We 1110 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: can keep forever. I thought he was hurt. I thought 1111 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 1: he was hurt. I thought he was hurt again. And 1112 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: then I've seen this man. 1113 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 6: Whoa, that's crazy. 1114 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was not that was not great. So we'll 1115 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: see what happens. I anticipated it'll be Jill Flacco there. 1116 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: I'll be shocked if if it isn't, maybe by the 1117 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: time you're listening to this or watching this, that is 1118 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: that is already the case. 1119 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 2: Hey, this is a this is a fun show. 1120 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: We've got a couple of good saucy nugs in there, 1121 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: raise rets, Indiana Hoosiers, you know, the usual, so as 1122 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: well as some wild usual. 1123 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. 1124 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: All that's gonna do it for. I appreciate you guys hanging. 1125 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,240 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Right here on, move the sticks. 1126 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 3: M