1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of five 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W Chuck Bryant and 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: Jerry's out there somewhere, and this is Stuff you should Know. 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Carrot plated Gold Edition gold plated didn't know what happens? 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Like if you put a bunch of gold together, it 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: means more carrots, I think. So I'm afraid to doubt you, though, 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: because I had a movie crushers say that. I'm all 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: I do lately is say you're wrong? Do you What 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: do they mean lately? I know, I don't know. He 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: must be a newcomer to the podcast. Slightly distressing, says, 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Josh's is all the time lately. Josh makes really good points, 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: and all Chuck does his poopa it by just saying no, 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: you're wrong. It's like, does that even happen once? If 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: it may, I'm sure it's happened more than once. But 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: if it makes you feeling better, I haven't noticed, and 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: that's what really counts, don't you think? Yeah, I guess, 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: although there are like a million plus people listening, so 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: I guess their opinions count as well. Oh, man, you 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: know it's funny, is I didn't even see that coming chuck. Yeah, 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: that was good, good stuff. And I almost just said 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: the s wort, that was good stuff. You're wrong, it 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: was mediocre. Let's just do this Fortes. Yeah, no, let's 24 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: do a real podcast episode. This, uh, this is interesting. 25 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: All I could think about was heist movies. Oh really, 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what I thought about. I think I 27 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: was kind of stuck in the thirties. I just thought 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: of everything is kind of old timey and quaint because 29 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of in a way where the story really 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: kicks off the story of Fort Knox. In case anybody's 31 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: listening and didn't check the title, Oh, I thought we 32 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 1: were doing an episode on the United States Bullion Depository, Buddy. 33 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: That is the same exact thing in a lot of ways. 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: But actually they're different too. Let's talk about this, right. So, 35 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: But for anybody who is outside of the United States, 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: and I would wager that a lot of you, I'd 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: wager all the Golden Fort Knox that a lot of 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: you are very familiar with Fort Knox, because it does 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: seem to be kind of like this world famous place 40 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: where the United States hoards its gold and it's just 41 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: totally impenetrable, so don't even try. Um. But there's also 42 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: like a lot of conspiracy theories too that there's no 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: gold in there, and we'll talk about all this and 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: why there's golden there too, But I feel like we 45 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: should at least give like a background on Fort Knox 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: and the ins and outs of it, don't you. Yeah. 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: In nineteen o three, this is where it all started. Um, 48 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: the U. S Army said, you know what, I think 49 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: we need some training ground out here in Kentucky, in 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: West Point, Kentucky. And everybody said, why, Yeah, I don't 51 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: know good at places any I guess, and use that 52 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: area they got, Um, they got a few counties to 53 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: kindly hand them over some land, and they use that 54 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: area for training and stuff. Made it a permanent training 55 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: camp in nineteen eighteen and then named it after Henry Knox, 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: a Revolutionary War officer, as Camp Knox. And someone very 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: quickly said, that doesn't sound at all tough. It sounds 58 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: like children belong here and people roasting smores about Fort Knox. 59 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: It sounds like all the best forts started out as camps. Yeah, 60 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: So they said Shure in Ny two, it became officially 61 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: Fort Canucks right, nice one. Um. So yeah, so it 62 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: started out as a legit army base. Um. But then 63 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: eventually in the thirties, which is why I've been stuck 64 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: in the thirties because so much of the story takes 65 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: place there. Um, the United States Mint said, hey, we 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: could use a new spot to store some gold, because 67 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: we got a lot of gold. I this isn't even 68 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: all of it, but we need a new spot to 69 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: store some gold. And they actually took possession of part 70 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: of Fort Knox um and built what's known as, like 71 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: you said, the United States bully On Depository. Um, they're 72 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: in Kentucky and it is legitimately Fort Knox is now 73 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: not just the army camp. Even more famously, it is 74 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: really what you officially would call the United States Bullyon Depository. Yeah. 75 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: And the camp is still there, and some say it 76 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: is Um there is sort of a means of maybe 77 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: intimidation maybe back up, like hey, there's an army camp 78 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: right next door. But they you know, also asked to 79 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: borrow that name because it sounded tougher than the Bullion Depository, 80 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: and they said, sure, you can go ahead and just 81 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: call that building Fort Knox as well, and that's where 82 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: we moved um, well, not all of it, but we 83 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: had a lot of gold at the time, as you 84 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: were saying, and it was, um it was a little unnerving, 85 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: I think, to have most of the gold and the 86 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: country stored in Philadelphia, the ment there and in New 87 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: York because it was so close to the coast, and 88 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: if some warring nation wanted to invade us and grab 89 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: our gold, then they wouldn't have far to go to 90 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: get it onto a boat. Yeah, truly, which is you know, 91 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: pretty sensible, really, and I never really thought about that. 92 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: But New York is not very far from water, and 93 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: neither as Philly, so why not. So they decided to 94 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: move um as much as they could. And there was 95 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: silver moved too. There's a lot of stockpiles of silver 96 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: that we're not even gonna bother within this story because 97 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: silver we're talking gold here, and they moved a lot 98 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: of it to Denver, and they very quickly said, well, 99 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: the Denver met's a great place because it's protected from 100 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: the from the Pacific Ocean by the rocky mountains, which 101 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: would make that makes it much more difficult for an 102 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: invading army. To come in from the Pacific and steal it. 103 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: But we're we've run out of space and we need 104 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: some some more space for all the spillover gold. And 105 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: that's when they decided to build a Fort Knox, which 106 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: in Kentucky is protected from the Atlantic Ocean by the 107 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: Appalachian Mountains. So it's pretty pretty clever. Why they why 108 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: they chose Fort Knox. Yeah. So the Treasury, like you said, 109 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: took control of that land in thirty six and then 110 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: in thirty seven, and they, I mean they started building 111 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: you know there. You know, they couldn't just keep it 112 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: intense even though those intimidating Appalachian Mountains were right there. 113 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: They're like, we need a building here. So they built 114 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: a building over um just a few months. Cost about 115 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: it impressive, Yeah, UM cost about a half a million bucks. 116 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: In the nine seven they said we're open for business, Um, 117 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: bring that gold from New York City. They did, and 118 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: they they did it the way, exactly the way that 119 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: you would think they would do it. They had um 120 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: a lot of um. They had a secret location where 121 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: they were loading it. They sent a bunch of trains 122 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: out um that were decoys, UM. And it didn't all 123 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: happen at once. It wasn't one ship mint that made 124 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: its way from New York and Philadelphia over to U Kentucky. 125 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: It would have been in the movie, I think exactly. Yeah, 126 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: But um it happened like actually in in many shipments 127 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: over several years. But supposedly they did it like sometimes 128 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: darkness of nights and there was decoys, um. And they 129 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: were always protected by a number of groups from the 130 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: post Office um uh, inspectors that are licensed to carry guns. 131 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: Which would I hate to say it, everybody, but that's 132 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: the one that you would try to hijack if you 133 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: were going to hijack like yeah right, um yes, chuck 134 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: all the way to the army, you know, which I 135 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: would I would probably not try to hijack that one. 136 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: If I were going to hijack one, which I wouldn't do, 137 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: it would probably be the postal inspector one. Yeah. And 138 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure that they've someone has written a 139 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: movie treatment at some point for a nine seven try 140 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: on the Way to Fort Knox heist type of thing, right, 141 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: and they surely would have cast those poor post office 142 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: gun slingers. Is the the likely train that's poor guys? 143 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 1: Um So we've got the gold shown up at Fort Knox. 144 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: And the thing is is like this was like people 145 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: knew about this. It wasn't done in secret, Like this 146 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: was this is known about UM And I think I 147 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: get the impression that the reason that it was talked 148 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: about and discussed, and they were like little tidbits here 149 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: there in the in the um, in the popular media, 150 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: um to give this idea like Okay, yes we're moving 151 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: this gold, but like, don't even try it, Like here's 152 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: just enough that you need to know to not even 153 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: come anywhere near this place. And over the years, little 154 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: tidbits have kind of been released here there that give 155 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: a pretty complete picture of what you would be dealing 156 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: with if you did, in fact try to uh impregnate 157 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: for Knox. Oh pretty sexy. So uh, first of all, 158 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: you can't just take a tour. I mean you can 159 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: tour almost anything in this country except for Fort Knox. 160 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: Even if you're sitting congress person, the chances are you're 161 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: probably not going to get a tour. Yeah, I mean, 162 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: if ed is correct here who helped us put this together, 163 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: there have only been three official tours, Is that right? Yeah, 164 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: that's what I saw. So there's there was one from 165 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: FDR himself, which is pretty understandable. UM. There was one 166 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: in the seventies, which we'll talk about, UM, which made sense, 167 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: but it was a congressional delegation. And then I think 168 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: in two thousands seventeen, Stephen Minusian and a delegation toured it. 169 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: So there's at least three, but those are the three 170 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: that we know about. There may have been more, but 171 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: I would think they would kind of publicize that because 172 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: the whole point of being a delegate to tour Fort 173 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 1: Knox is to basically reassure the public there's there's a 174 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: lot of golden there. Don't even more about it. Yes, 175 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: the gold's there. That's pretty much the reason why anybody 176 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: gets a tour of Fort Knox. I wonder if they 177 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: let FDR in just to say, hey, you might as 178 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: well just urinate on this golden person, because that's what 179 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: you're about to do with policy. That's that's probably what happened. 180 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: We'll get to that later with the gold standard. Uh. 181 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: And of course you didn't urinate on it. Even with policy, 182 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: you don't know. You can't ever tell what that FDR. 183 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: So here's a bunch of things, and this this next 184 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: bit is going to be just sort of a lot 185 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: of the facts and figures that we know and we've 186 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: gleaned over the years. Some comes from official releases, some 187 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: comes from an old nineteen thirties issue of Popular Mechanics, 188 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: which is kind of cool. Uh, but should we take 189 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: a break first? Oh? Sure, man, Yeah, I think that's 190 00:10:50,200 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: a great cliffhanger. All right, great, we'll be right back. Alrighty, 191 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: So we promised you stats and figures about Fort Knox 192 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: and issues of Popular Mechanics. I know, how's this for you? 193 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: The vault requires, of course, multiple people to open it up, 194 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: and each person nobody knows the entire combination. Each person 195 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: it knows only a part of it. And even if 196 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: you got it open, there's a one d hour time 197 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: delay locks, so you gotta wait. If you have them 198 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: at gunpoint and you all force and you force them 199 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: all to open it, you gotta sit around and wait 200 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: for four days, no matter what. That's my favorite one. 201 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: It's pretty great. Mm hmm. That in the fact that 202 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: it's really just artificial intelligence from the future is the 203 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: only one that has the entire combination in its possession. 204 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: What else, Um, well, let's see, they're the the vault 205 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: itself is actually inside a building. So you remember in 206 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: our Alcatraz episode where the cell Blox where buildings inside 207 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: of the larger prison building. That's exactly the same thing, 208 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: and not coincidentally they're built around the same time. UM, 209 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: So I think there was that kind of you know, 210 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: impenetrable building within an impenetrable building in the Zeitgeist kind 211 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: of thing going on. Um. And the only way, the 212 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: only place the vault and that building are connected is 213 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: on the floor. But don't even think of coming up 214 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: from under the floor because, um, the flooring is two 215 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: ft thick of granite um, which you are not going 216 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: to get through even if you successfully dug under. And 217 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: I'll just go ahead and tell you why you would 218 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: not be able to successfully dig under the building from 219 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: the outside is because you have barrier after barrier after 220 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: fence after razor I are separating you from the building. 221 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: There's a huge blank field around the building, so it's 222 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: not very easy to kind of walk up to it. 223 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: And they apparently have said that the field around the 224 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: building is a mine field, which means that they apparently 225 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: studied cartoons to design Fort Knock, which I love. You're 226 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: like what would while e coyote do exactly? Um, yeah, 227 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: it is, I mean it's it's it's definitely worth googling 228 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: a uh like an aerial image of this building. It's 229 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting. I mean it it does. It sits 230 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: out in the middle of nothing, uh, in this big 231 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: flat area, and there's like a circular driveway around it. 232 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: And you know, it's made of what you think it's 233 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: made of, which is granite and concrete and steel. They 234 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: said that the walls are also two feet in thickness, 235 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: and inside those walls are fabricated steel hills that are 236 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: so closely smushed together that they say a human hand 237 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: can't even get between them. Right. Uh, So you need 238 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: a baby or a child. You need a baby hand. 239 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: So you got to bring a baby. You have to 240 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: bring diapers and food to last the baby four days 241 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: until the time lock. Yeah. Of course, don't forget a 242 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: gun to hold people off with. Ye and probably some 243 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: people you don't like to send through the minefield the 244 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: clear path for you. Yeah, and you've got to get 245 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: one of those diaper genies to put the diaper in, 246 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: otherwise it's gonna smell in there. Oh man, it would 247 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: smell so bad in that little building. Uh here's another 248 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: cool thing. Well, the whole the whole building isn't huge. 249 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not small. It's ten thousand square feet, 250 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: but it's not I don't know. You think of Fort 251 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: Knox and you think of, um, something the size of 252 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: like a maximum security prison or something like that. Um, 253 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: it's not huge. But um the building inside the building, 254 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: so the vault inside has an eighteen inch space clear 255 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: on every side and have all these mirrors everywhere. And 256 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: of course now they have real cameras. I guess this 257 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: was from the popular mechanics pre camera. You just use 258 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: mirrors to make sure that you could see every square 259 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: inch of this thing. Yeah. So if you did somehow 260 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: manage to get inside the vault, the people who whose 261 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: job it is is to watch the vault would see 262 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: you immediately and they post yeah yeah. They would just start, 263 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, lobbying dead letter office packages at you until 264 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: you got annoyed and left. And of course there's heavy artillery. 265 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: There are um four corner machine gun turrets essentially on 266 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: the outer building. Looking so, I'm sorry, I was confused. 267 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: Is that on the outer building or is that part 268 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: of the vault. I think that's outside. Okay, I don't know. 269 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't quite tell. I didn't and I didn't see 270 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: it outside. Did you see him outside? Well, I mean 271 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: I saw, I mean I didn't see any really close ups. 272 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: Everything was kind of an area all and I did 273 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: see what looked like corner turrets, but maybe they are inside. Okay. 274 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd be shooting up machine guns 275 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: inside a granite room. Yeah, that's actually probably a pretty 276 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: bad idea. I I mean, I've seen wildly condy too. 277 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: Those bullets bounced all over the place, that's right. Um, 278 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: So you've also got a door to contend with. So 279 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: so so far, you've got two ft thick everything to 280 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: get through. Um, which means that your best bet is 281 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: to go through the door because rather than twenty four inches, 282 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: it's only twenty one inches thick. But you should probably 283 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: be dissuaded by the fact that it's blast, drill and 284 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: torch proof, said the US Mint director from back in 285 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen, Philip Deal. Yeah, and again this 286 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: is all under the banner of don't even think about it, buddy. Right, Um, 287 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: between the uh, there's a corridor that encircles the vault 288 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: and then the outer wall of the building. They do 289 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: have some offices. I guess that's where Dottie the secretary 290 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,479 Speaker 1: has been since nineteen fifties something, or Danny or Danny, 291 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: that's true. I don't think they gave jobs like that 292 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: to Danny in the nineteen fifties. Okay, maybe not in 293 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: the fifties. That's fine. But I got called out for 294 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: letting that Stooges comment pass, and I'm not gonna I'm 295 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: not going on the grill again for you, pal what 296 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: that ladies don't like the Three Stooges. We got not one, 297 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: not two, but thrice emails about that, and most of 298 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: them were not happy. Well, actually two of the three 299 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: were very fun about it and said that they love 300 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: the Three Stooges. But yes, but they weren't happy. One 301 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell. And I even wrote her back and 302 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't tell if you're really mad. Well, 303 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: and I said, but I said, I was just if 304 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: you google women don't like Three Stooges. It's a it's 305 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: a trope. I mean, it's a familiar trope. I wasn't 306 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: like inventing some sexist thing. I was just kind of 307 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: funding around with it. Yeah, it's like everybody not liking 308 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: Detroit or Kentucky like Google that right, or Google women 309 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: don't like Rush the band. Hey, hey, hey, let's just 310 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: let's bail out of this while we still have our limb. No, 311 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: people can likelyly like. But trust me, have been to 312 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: a Rush concert and there was there was a lot 313 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: of masculinity in that room. What year was that, because 314 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: I'll bet I was at the same concert depending I 315 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: went to it must have been eight or eighty nine. No, No, 316 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't not that one. This would have been It 317 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: would be like, m we just missed each other. Yeah, 318 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: just by a few years. Had I just hung out 319 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: at the Omni for three or four more years or 320 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: had you, we would have passed each But you're right, women, 321 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: like all sorts of things have been like all sorts 322 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: of things, that's right. And Danny and Dottie can both 323 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: be secretary, that's right. And we don't even call him 324 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: secretaries anymore, Chuck, we should just stop podcasting all together. 325 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: We have aged out of it. So to me, the 326 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: only way in would be, uh, the escape tunnel, yes, 327 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: which they thought of that they realized that they actually 328 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: put a tunnel underground that you could use to get 329 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: into the UM, the depository, the actual vault UM, which 330 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: they installed in case somebody got locked in there, which 331 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: I'm really surprised they even installed that um or design 332 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: that in there. I would think like, if you have 333 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: people guarding it as closely as it's being guarded all 334 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 1: the time, that if you got locked in there, they 335 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: could let you out and just give you food or 336 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: something through those those slots that for the four days, yeah, 337 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: or just in the Yeah, that's an even better idea. Actually, 338 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: now that now that you mentioned it, but now they 339 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: didn't do that. They actually put an escape tunnel in 340 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: so that you can crawl out. It's not like a 341 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: pleasant walk or anything. You crawl like through this tunnel 342 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: and then out into the minefield basically. But the door 343 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: that you reach that lets you outside UM only opens 344 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: from the inside. It's impossible to open from the outside, 345 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: which I take to mean it doesn't have a door 346 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: knob on the outside, and then UM that's it guarded 347 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: by people who are ready to just shoot you up. 348 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: If you try to approach this door with your own 349 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: door knob that you brought to open it from the outside, right, 350 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: because you're not gonna come in here with a presumably 351 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: a freight train to steal all this gold. Where are 352 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: you gonna put the tracks? You can't do it. Are 353 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: you gonna get that gold out of there? I just 354 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: love the fact that we're trying to you know, we're 355 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: doing a podcast in explaining in dissuading people from trying 356 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: to get into Fort Knox. I mean, it's just so 357 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: like seventies to me, your thirties or you know. The 358 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: other cool thing is is that it can go off grid, 359 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: has its own water and power. So if you you know, 360 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: in the movie version, of course, once again, I would 361 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: think you would try and knock it off the line somehow, 362 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: get those cameras down, but they say, no, no, no, 363 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: we have those generators. We can live off grid. There's 364 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: a gun range in the basement, so if you want 365 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: to brush up on your machine gun down there, you 366 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: can do that. No, that's kind of like a little 367 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: little lan yacht to the whole thing. Like, by the way, 368 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: these guys are training um with guns downstairs in the 369 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: basement for fun because they've got nothing else to do. 370 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: They're just waiting for you to come who is guarding 371 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: it though, Um, from what I understand, their treasury agents 372 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: right and the army um can be called in if needed, 373 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: because again it's like right there, Yeah, the U S. 374 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: Met Police Force, Yeah, which I imagine is a it's 375 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: probably a pretty cool gig to have. I don't know 376 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: where they would have come up, but I swear we've 377 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: mentioned that they exist before. It seems familiar to me. 378 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: Have we done this all before? No, we haven't done 379 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: this one, but we have talked about money and currency before, um, 380 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's where that's where we're at. 381 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: Don't you like that that maybe we should talk about 382 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: the goal itself, because I mean, yes, it's cool that 383 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: there's a twenty one in blast door and there's a 384 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: door that only opens from the inside and these ape tunnel. 385 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: But I think what everybody's really fascinated with as much 386 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: as anything is the fact that there is a lot 387 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: of gold inside of four knocks. Yeah. And this will 388 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: um kind of hit home too. If you've ever seen 389 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: movies where you're bringing gold out of a place in 390 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: a duffel bag, those gold bars weigh almost twenty eight 391 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: pounds apiece, just one, yeah, just one of those things. 392 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: So if you see people throwing them around in a 393 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: movie or putting ten of them fifteen of them in 394 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: a duffel bag and slinging it over their shoulder, that 395 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: is not realistic at all. They're seven inches long, three 396 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: and five eights inches wide, one in three quarters inches thick. 397 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: And wait, twenty seven point five pounds each, yeah, or 398 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: four hundred troy ounces. If you know what that means. 399 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: I have no idea. Um, and I think it's what 400 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: about ten twelve kilos a piece for those of you 401 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: who aren't listening in the US and the weird thing. 402 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: I didn't realize this, but as far as the Treasury 403 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: is concerned, and to me, this really kind of goes 404 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: to men straight, like how little the actual value of 405 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: maintaining this gold horde is that just for bookkeeping, they 406 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: they assign like an arbitrary value, the statutory value of gold. 407 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: It's what it's called at forty two dollars and forty 408 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: four cents and ounce, so that they can keep track 409 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: using that dollar amount of how much gold is in 410 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: uh Fort Knox, rather than you know, tracking it as 411 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: it as it relates to, like the international gold market. Yeah, 412 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: and so I did the math this time. I did too. 413 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: Let's see if we came up with the same thing. 414 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: So the supposedly there are forty metric tons of gold, 415 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: which by the way, is about two point five percent 416 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: of all the gold ever mind in the world in 417 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: human history. That's pretty impressive. And if we're just going 418 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure we use the same numbers here 419 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: for metric tons, can use that forty two point four 420 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: four since per ounce. Okay, I did it differently, But 421 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: let's see if we came up with the same figure. Well, 422 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: what what what value did you use? Like? Oh, no, 423 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: you go first, Mr Jear, wrong guy. So using the 424 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: statutory value of gold that the US is set, I 425 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: came up with six point eight billion dollars worth of gold. 426 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: Close for mine. Close for mine. I used a different method. 427 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: And this is one of the great joys of math 428 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: is there are different approaches to the same problem. What 429 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: did you do? UM? I took that forty s hundred 430 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: metric tons of gold and UM divided it by pounds 431 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: seven point five pounds. So I came up with the 432 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: number of individual bars that I multiplied that number of 433 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: individual bars, which is three sixty eight thousand and seven 434 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy three bars. By that sixteen thousand, eight 435 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight dollars per bar I came up 436 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: with in the neighborhood of six point to five six 437 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: billion dollars worth of gold. Well, first of all, there's 438 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: a psychologist that's listening to this, that is really yeah, 439 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: looking at what that means for both of our personalities. 440 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: For sure, I say a lot. You know, did you 441 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: use Are you sure you use metric tons and not 442 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: just tons? Yeah? I I did um pound to metric 443 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: ton conversion. You know how you can go on the 444 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: internet and just say pound metric ton and like it 445 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: brings up a little conversion thing for you. Yeah, I 446 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: was just I was just making sure because at first 447 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: I didn't do metric ton and that was different. And 448 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: did a short time that is short ton, and that 449 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: came to about six closer to your number. Okay, Yeah, No, 450 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: I and I actually rounded a little bit because I 451 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: was like, e, what the heck is that when the 452 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: total came up, So I went back and redid it. 453 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: And I didn't feel like plugging in all the same 454 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: numbers round. What I wonder. What I did was I 455 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: just took how many ounces or in forty six in 456 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: a ton in a metric ton, multiplied that by and 457 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: then multiplied that by two. Right, Well, I proposed that 458 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: move along because I just suddenly rose. There's probably people 459 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: who's like their fingertips of Doug under their eyeballs. They're 460 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: so they're in such agony hearing us discuss math like this. Well, 461 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: what's what's important is that the Fed in New York 462 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: actually has more gold in their Manhattan vault, which was 463 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: in a movie six thousand tons of gold that would 464 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: have been die Harder, die Hard three. I believe it 465 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: may have die another day. I don't know, but it 466 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: was a good one. That was the one with Sam Jackson. Yeah, 467 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: that was pretty good. Um. And by the way, I 468 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 1: need to say something. I realized that I said, Event 469 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: Horizon is a good movie and holds up. I went 470 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: back and saw it again again, and I was like, 471 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: this is way jokier than I remember from last time. Yeah, 472 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: and sadly there's a there's a sheen or a coating 473 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: of hokey nous that I guess maybe they brought in 474 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: somebody to punch up the script or something, and that 475 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: was their contribution, but it's not so it doesn't hold 476 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: up anymore. No, And it's a great galactic love crafty 477 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: and horror movie and concept and in some parts, but no, 478 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: it's unfortunately rather hokey. I'm I'm a little gutted to 479 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: say that. As our British friends would say, maybe you 480 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: should watch it again in like three years and it 481 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: might be back on truck for you. Well maybe, you know, 482 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: maybe it's me that's the problem. Well, you know, taste 483 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: waxes and waynes. Yeah, that's true. Uh, there's another there's 484 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 1: some other stuff in Fort Knox, and there has been 485 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: other stuff through history in Fort Knox because it's just 486 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: a great place to keep stuff if you don't want 487 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: to lose it or have it stolen. They have some 488 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: rare coins in there. These are coins that were not 489 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: released to the public. They may have been promotional coins 490 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: or test pressings. Um. And so there's some of that stuff, 491 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: including uh, the Chicago Way dollars coins that flew on 492 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: the Space Shuttle. Is that funny? Yeah, that's soccer juwiyah. Yeah, 493 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: that's like the American bastardization. It's Chicago Way. Oh, well, 494 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: maybe we should keep this in okay, because I've never 495 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: heard anybody say that. I really thought you'd just pronounced 496 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: that other people say it like that. Yeah. I think 497 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where like the native pronunciation 498 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: is Chicago Way, and Americans were like saka jaweeah. No, 499 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, my, I've got so much egg on 500 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: my face. Maybe we won't keep this part in. You 501 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: have to say it. You said it wrong, though, you 502 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: have to be like, that's wrong, that's wrong. Okay, thank you. 503 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: So it is Chicago Way? Huh? Is it Chicago? I 504 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: think it's just Chicago Way. And I only learned that 505 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: from Ken Burns. God bless Kimmer and you man, Thank 506 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: you for setting me straight in front of a million people. Uh. 507 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: Let me see here in nineteen thirty three gold double 508 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: eagle twenty dollar coin. That's kind of cool. Yeah. Sure, 509 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: there's an aluminum dime no penny, an aluminum penny from 510 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: four which I'd love to see that thing. I would too, 511 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: but it just strikes me as a little sad. Sure, um, 512 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: the the they're there have also been because Fort Knox 513 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: is just so well known as this I pregnable place 514 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: and it really is, you know, legitimately you cannot get 515 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: into it no matter how hard you try. Um. It's 516 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: actually served as the site the storehouse for some like 517 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: truly valuable stuff, um, like the Declaration of Independence, the 518 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: Bill of Rights, um, the Gettysburg Address, a Guttenberg Bible, um. Uh, 519 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: the Magnet Card. Actually during World War two, England's like, hey, 520 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: can you hang onto this force because the Germans are 521 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: really like up our butts right now? Yeah, so they 522 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: so we held that at Fort Knox during World War two. Um. 523 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: Which is I mean, that's just fascinating to the idea 524 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: that some apparently some secret service agent traveled secretly with 525 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of these documents from Washington, d C. And 526 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: put him on a train out to Kentucky to go 527 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: to be held in Fort Knox during World War two. 528 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: I love it. That's really cool. And that was temporary area. 529 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: Think didn't they return them right afterwards? Oh yeah, for sure. 530 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: Apparently they dedicated the Jefferson Memorial in ninety three and 531 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: they're like, we need to get the um the Declaration 532 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: of Independence out there. And they found out that the 533 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: guards were using it as a place mat to eat 534 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: their dehydrated foods. You know, they'd swapped it with with 535 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: something that they only use crayon to forge, kept the 536 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: original themselves. So should we break now before conspiracies or 537 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: wait and break before gold standard? We'll break now, And 538 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm not a hard percent sure I'm going to be 539 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: able to come back from the Chicago Way thing. Okay, 540 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: So it might just be you when we come back 541 00:30:36,080 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: from from break No never, okay, Chuck. So one of 542 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: the things, one of the favorite things Americans love to 543 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: do is to suggest quite seriously in a lot of cases, 544 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: that there is no such thing as a gold in 545 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: Fort Knox, and that there hasn't been golden there for 546 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: a very long time. And if you went there and 547 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: you saw gold, well you're a fool, because the best thing, 548 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: the best possible scenario, is that you saw something like 549 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: tongue sten that was spray painted or plated in gold, 550 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: and that the golden Fort Knox is not there and 551 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: hasn't been there for a very long time, and not 552 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: only that it was sold for the most nefarious, outrageous 553 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: purposes we can possibly come up with. Yeah, So they 554 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: audit Fort Knox and they count the gold allegedly supposedly, 555 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: Dotty and Danny get in there with their adding machine 556 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: and they type everything out. Um, and I love how 557 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: Ed put this. He said that all the conspiracy theories 558 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: rely on quote, some fundamental misunderstanding of how currency works, 559 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: how the gold standard worked, or just outright nonsense. But 560 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of true. Yeah, I know, it totally is, 561 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: because there's this call for which we'll talk about the 562 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: gold to be used again the way originally was, which 563 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: is a back our currency. If that's the If that's 564 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: really the basis of your problem with the idea that 565 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: the gold was secretly sold off in Fort Knox, then 566 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: then yeah, you you misunderstand how currency works or how 567 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: economies work, and you probably don't fully understand how the 568 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: gold standard was not really great and that America actually 569 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: blew up and the whole world blew up after we 570 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: switched off of the gold standard. That's how the the 571 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: global economy really started to take off was when we 572 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: decoupled our currency from being pinned to gold. So that's 573 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: another seems to be another um factor in in in 574 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: kind of banding about conspiracy theories about Fort Knox gold too. Yeah, 575 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of these conspiracy theories are anti Semitic. Yeah, Um, 576 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: there are believe it or not. There are some really 577 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: smart people who think who who may or may not 578 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: believe in some of these theories, and some that believe 579 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: we should go back to the gold standard, including Alan Greenspan. 580 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: UM woman named Judy Shelton who Trump tried to push 581 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: for appointment to the FED to the Federal Reserve UM 582 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if she believes in the conspiracy 583 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: theories or she just wants to go back to the 584 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: gold standard. Yeah, they're not. I mean, it's not hand 585 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: in hand. It's just if you do think we should 586 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: go back to the gold standard, it's basically impossible for 587 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: your attention not to follow on Fort Knox. And then 588 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: you may be like, well is there even gold there? Yeah? True, 589 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: but there are some truly whay could do things out there. Uh, 590 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: this Peter Better guy? Oh is that how you're saying 591 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: his name? What is it? If his Yeah, if his 592 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: name is not Peter Beater, then I'm sad I am 593 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: to be your beater the E T E. R. That's 594 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna call him at least. Yeah, it's like 595 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: Peter with a B. Yeah, but his first name is Peter. 596 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: It's magnificent, it's perfect. So he has thrown a lot 597 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: of conspiracies out there since the seventies, uh, including a 598 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: popular one that we sold off all the gold to 599 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: these global elites for next to nothing so they could 600 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: hoard that gold and then one day just destabilize the 601 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: economy of the world and uh and you know, a 602 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: sin to power basically, yeah, because they would have all 603 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: the money and they sunk the value of the money 604 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: so they could buy everything else at rock bottom prices 605 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: like they bought the gold. Apparently this involves the Rothchilds, 606 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: which automatically makes the whole thing anti Semitic, because the 607 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: roth Child's started out and you know, are still around 608 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: as far as I know, UM as a Jewish banking family, 609 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: uh many many centuries ago. UM and rose to power 610 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: and wealth pretty quickly and actually had a huge um 611 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: role in a lot of world affairs, like we're able 612 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: to bail out entire nations like France after they went 613 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: into debt over war, like this family could do that. 614 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: And it started a lot of conspiracy theories. So um, 615 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: they're kind of like one of the o G conspiracy theories. 616 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: And usually it was based on a combination or it 617 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: was based on suspiciousness of a combination of them being 618 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: Jewish and then being extraordinarily wealthy. Yeah, there's this other guy. 619 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: Is his name is yan nieven Huis. I'm sure that's wrong. Um, 620 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: he had an alias named KU's Jansen ko O s. 621 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: And I listened to and read some interviews with this 622 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: guy and he did you check into him? He seems 623 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: he seems like a pretty level headed economist, right, that 624 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: just seems to think that these audits aren't correct and 625 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: there is something kinky going on. He didn't seem really 626 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: out there though. No, it's it seems like a case 627 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: of paying too much attention to details and and starting 628 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: to see things that aren't necessarily there. Or if you 629 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: do turn up a discrepancy, assuming that it does reveal 630 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: some larger plot rather than just being a mistake or 631 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: an accounting error or somebody forgot to carry the one. 632 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: That's my impression. I could be wrong. I don't know 633 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: much about cous Jansen. Yeah, but the interview just seemed 634 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: very level headed. Um, he wasn't talking about um robotsoids, 635 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: which is what Peter Peter talks about, right, literally talks 636 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: about stuff like that. Well, that's what makes it believable. 637 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: Is the OIDs on the end. If there were just robots, 638 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: it would just seem rather far fat. What about Ron Paul? 639 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: His is a little out there. He thinks it's all fake, right, 640 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: so Ron Paul. I can't tell if Ron Paul is 641 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: the source of a lot of this or was an 642 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: amplifier for a lot of it, But he's tapped into 643 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: or is part of one of the larger um kind 644 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: of follow wings of of conspiracy theories as far as 645 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: Fort Knox is concerned, which is that that either like 646 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: I was saying earlier, there's either no gold there really, 647 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: or the goal that is there is fake and the 648 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: real goal has been sold, And that the US has 649 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: been doing this for a very long time for all 650 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: sorts of uncertain reasons. Um Like that, and that usually 651 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: these days that China has been the big recipient of 652 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: cheap gold, and maybe we've been doing that because if 653 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: we sell China bunch of cheap gold, it will actually 654 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: keep the dollar low and we'll strengthen our exports. I'm 655 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: not quite sure how that works. Um. There also seems 656 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: to be a certain amount of like national pride associated 657 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: with it, where like, no, that's our goal, that's the 658 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: people's goal that can't be sold off secretly by the government. 659 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: And here's to me where it's like, even if there 660 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: is it any gold in Fort Knox at some point 661 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: in in the not too distant past, but the past, 662 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: for sure, we've gone so far are beyond that having 663 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: any importance whatsoever based on the dollar value of the 664 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: golden Fort Knox that it legitimately doesn't matter. But that's 665 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: why I think some people are like, no, it doesn't matter. 666 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: That is our goal. That's America's gold. Um. I've seen 667 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: it referred to I think ed said somebody referred to 668 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: it as the equity of our national wealth. Um. And 669 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: there seems to be like a certain amount of like 670 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: American pride or patriotism in in being really mad about 671 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: the idea that Fort Knox doesn't have any gold anymore, 672 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: that the American people were duped by, you know, whatever 673 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: elites are running the show at the behest of whatever 674 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: Jewish people are running the elites. Uh. Because here's the deal, 675 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: and this is where we kind of get in more 676 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: to the of the gold standard, and we talked about 677 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: this in currency and how both of us are kind 678 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: of consistently blown away that money all money is. It's 679 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: just something that everyone has agreed on has value. Yeah, 680 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: and that's what we've been doing forever. But yeah, since 681 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: there has been a little ingets and trinkets, as long 682 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: as you agree, I mean, it could be a well, 683 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: it could be a stick. It has to be something 684 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: that you can't just go out and forage, although you 685 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: can with gold, which is a problem you can. I mean, 686 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: like think about womp them that was extensively used and 687 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: I believe the Pacific Northwest by more than one Um 688 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: tribe and nation. Um womp them was where they were 689 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: like little little seashells that you could go and collect 690 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: if you wanted to, and they were considered valuable currency 691 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: and were for a very long time too. So it 692 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: could conceivably be a stick as far as humanity is concerned. Right, 693 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: But in our case and in the case of paper 694 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: money these days, it is uh, we've had to make 695 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: make it incredibly hard to recreate and counterfeit. You can 696 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: also listen to our counterfeiting episode. But what really struck 697 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: me kind of with that thought experiment this time is 698 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: that gold really doesn't have much value either as a commodity. 699 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: It's it's nice for making pretty trinkets. But uh, and 700 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: they use it in some electronics and stuff like that. 701 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: It we've also just sort of agreed that gold is 702 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 1: valuable and the only thing that really has true value 703 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: is food, air, and water, if you, if you think 704 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: about it, and love, and the irony is is that 705 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: we're doing our best to kill all that stuff away, 706 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, the stuff that really matters. Man, pravo, pravo. 707 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: I wanna give you a hand to help you down 708 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: from your soapbox, and I'm gonna put a king robe 709 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: around you. Okay, it's goldflecting. It's got like the little 710 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: white leopard, um like like caller, yeah, whatever that is. 711 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: You look great, And that was wonderful. No, it's just 712 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: it's just so funny. These things that we've agreed have 713 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: value really don't. And the things that really truly have 714 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: valued are really just the things that keep people alive, 715 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: right right, But even like taking that hippie stuff out 716 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: of the equation, there was a time where people said, um, no, gold, 717 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: gold actually is valuable. People of value gold for eons now, 718 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: Like it's one of the first things humans agreed had 719 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: inherent value, even though it doesn't really have inherent value 720 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: because it was yeah, and so it made sense that 721 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: we we would say, Okay, gold is really hard to 722 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: lug around and like, um, it's you just you don't 723 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: want to actually trade gold. How about we make paper 724 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: that represents a certain amount of gold and um. So 725 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of where we got paper currency in the world, 726 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: and that's what we've been using for a very long time. 727 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: But over time the problems, the issues that can arise 728 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 1: from pinning your your currency to gold, um, they became apparent. 729 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: For one, you're very you're limited to the amount of 730 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: gold that exists in the world, which is substantial. I 731 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: mean all the golden Fort Knox is only two and 732 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: a half percent of the all the gold that was 733 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: ever mine. So there's a lot of gold in the world, 734 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: but that's a finite amount, which is why some people 735 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 1: are like, yeah, that's why we should pin our currency 736 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 1: to gold. It prevents it from getting out of hand 737 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: and you can't just print how over much you want. Um. 738 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: The problem is that it's like you were saying, like 739 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: with a stick, you can go in the forest and 740 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 1: go get a bunch of sticks. Conceivably, you a private 741 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: company could go mine a bunch of gold that you found, 742 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: you found a horde and um you you can mind it. 743 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: And that will affect the value of not just gold, 744 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: but of entire national economies in the global economy as 745 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: a whole. If everybody's pinning their currency to gold. Yeah. 746 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: And the thing is it also like, if your economy 747 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: is backed only by gold, it's really tough to make 748 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: adjustments to the economy as a government, which is something 749 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: as things have become more complicated over the years with 750 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: finance throughout the world, we've relied upon UM and I 751 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: don't think we even mentioned that. The reason we did 752 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: this to begin with is because when we first had 753 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: the idea of paper currency, people are like, I don't 754 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: trust that at all, Like coins that people were kind 755 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 1: of used to because they've been using trinkets and gets 756 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: coins for many, many years. But when they brought out 757 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: paper dollars, and part of this was because understandable because 758 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: private banks and I think we talked about this in 759 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: currency UM and especially in the South pre Civil War South, 760 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 1: there were all kinds of values for their paper currency, 761 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: so none of it really meant anything. Yeah, a bank, 762 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: a company of a town could print their own money. 763 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: There was no federal monopoly on printing money in the 764 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: United States until some time after the Civil War. I think, 765 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 1: so people just said, yeah, we don't like this paper 766 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: currency thing. So we came along and said, all right, well, 767 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: what if we back it by gold and in theory 768 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: all the money as a real gold value attached to it, 769 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: and you can even come traded in for gold if 770 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: you want to. Right. So that's that's how we went 771 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: forward for a very long time, and then kind of 772 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: slowly but surely we started to move away from it, 773 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: particularly starting UM in nineteen where the Federal Reserve was 774 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: established UM, which a lot of people, especially ones who 775 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: think we should go to the gold standard and people 776 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: who think that we shouldn't have UM, that there's no 777 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: golden fort Knox believe, kind of ruined the world when 778 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: we established the Federal Reserve UM. And one of the 779 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: first steps that said was like, okay, we need to 780 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: maintain of the value of all of our currency in 781 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: circulation in gold as a as a country, which was 782 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: a lot different from that's a huge amount of money 783 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: that can can now be printed, and more money that's 784 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: out there, more things can be bought because that money 785 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: can be traded for services and goods, and you can 786 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: employ people with it, and all of a sudden, your 787 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: economy can start getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And 788 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. And as that became more and 789 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: more evident, UM, we started moving further and further away 790 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: from from UM the gold standard. Yeah. And like I 791 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: said earlier, kind of joke that Roosevelt, they allowed him 792 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: to urinate in person on the gold Uh. He really 793 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: led the charge in the thirties because of World War 794 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: One and the in the Great Depression, and said, you 795 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: know what, we really kind of need to get away 796 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: from this gold standard officially. And I'm gonna take a 797 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: series of actions weakening that link between gold dollars being 798 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 1: backed by gold, and you can't exchange it anymore. Everyone, 799 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: So don't even think about that. And not only that, 800 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: you can't hoard gold like we we basically want all 801 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 1: the gold and all that we want to hang onto it. Yeah. 802 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: And so for a very long time, the only reason 803 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: people maintain gold, or countries maintained gold, or the United 804 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: States maintained gold was to UM to pay off foreign 805 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: debts if need be. Uh. And then Nixon said nuts 806 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: to that in one and from that moment on, the 807 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: United States currency and economy was decoupled from gold and 808 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: it has been ever since. UM. And you again, you 809 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: can look, I'm not a roth child robot oid. I 810 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 1: just believe in progress, basically. And if you go back 811 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: and look at the world economy and the United States 812 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: economy since nineteen seventy one, it's made some pretty impressive 813 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: gains since then, UM. And that's largely due to decoupling 814 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: from golden being able to print money. Now that said, 815 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 1: and this is an entirely different podcast that I think 816 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: we need to do. Sometimes there are massive problems with 817 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: paper money, paper currency, what's called fiat currency UM, or 818 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: a fiat system of currency where by fiat by proclamation, 819 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: we say our currency is worth this amount, and that's 820 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: what we do now, which is totally made up and 821 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: totally in the air. But as long as people have 822 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 1: faith in in the government, in the economy, and the workforce, UM, 823 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: we can survive those ups and downs through that that 824 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: that sense of faith not just among our citizens but 825 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: also people around the world. Understand. Yeah, I mean, let's 826 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: let's just all keep agreeing. Let's keep that pinky swear 827 00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: going exactly, so why do well, why do we still 828 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: have Fort Knox? Then if we don't need the gold, well, 829 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean they're not just gonna give it away. You 830 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: still gotta keep it in one in a couple of places, right, 831 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's one thing I think there is 832 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: a certain amount of that national pride to even among 833 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: the governments, Like we got we got a bunch of 834 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: gold and it's in Fort Knox, and it's almost like 835 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: symbolic of America's wealth and strength. UM. One thing I 836 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 1: did see is there are like lots of other countries 837 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: have lots of other gold hordes themselves. And although the 838 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: gold market is basically separate, it's like its own thing. 839 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: That's you know, it responds and reacts to the UM, 840 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: the stock exchanges, UM and other markets, but it's not 841 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: it's not you know, entangled with It's its own thing. 842 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: So really, if you UM released a bunch of gold, 843 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: you're really going to mess with the gold market. But 844 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna have a ripple effect through the through the world, UM, 845 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: then the other markets in the global economy. So it 846 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,959 Speaker 1: would be really foolish to release a bunch of gold 847 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: old onto the market for the US to sell or 848 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: any country to sell its gold hordes off. It would 849 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: be a real big problem that you don't need to have. 850 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: It's easier to just keep the gold in Fort Knox. Instead, agreed, 851 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: that's why it's still around. You're not. This turned out 852 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: to be a pretty good aside from Socca juwillyah, And 853 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: now I'm wondering if I even pronounced wampum correctly. Well, 854 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: how humiliating Chuck Wampum was the real thing? You know? Uh, 855 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: if you want to know more about Fort Knox and 856 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: start looking at pictures of it, you'll you'll see what 857 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about. And since I said you'll see what 858 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about, it's time for listener mail. I'm gonna 859 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: call this wet Lands follow up uh from Donna. Hey, guys, 860 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: been listening for many years and always enjoy the shows 861 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: in the banter. Today, out of my morning walk, I 862 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: was listening to Wetlands, Wetlands, Wetlands, and serendipitously came upon 863 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: cat tails just as you brought them up. Wow, we 864 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: love this stuff, these coincidences. And She's like, no, I'm 865 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 1: listening to the Four Knocks episode, so laid on me 866 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: I'm tunnel I'm tunneling in as we speak. It was 867 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 1: one of those weird coincidence moments that I just had 868 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: to record. I walked off the path into the grasses 869 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: and took a quick cat tail selfie, which I included 870 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: in this email. Lovely picture. Growing up in New Jersey 871 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: in the eighties, cat tails were called punks, and my 872 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: dad would take the dried out plants and light them 873 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: to keep away mosquitoes. That's where the punk is. Yeah, 874 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that. Have you heard of that? 875 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 1: Uh huh? I never heard of that. Back then, it 876 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: seemed like a normal thing to do. But having grown 877 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: up moved away from New Jersey, who I have never 878 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: come across anyone that ever partakes in this practice anymore. 879 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: It was such a huge part of my childhood summers. 880 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: I'd forgotten about it until now until listening to the episode, 881 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: and then I happened to walk upon some in the 882 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: adjacent Mark Marshes in That moment truly delighted me. Mosquito 883 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 1: season is over where I live now in d C. 884 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: But on next summer's to do list is to cut 885 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: some cat tails from the park end and introduce my 886 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: two teen sons to that distinctive punk smell that made 887 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: me against federal law. Now though, oh, really taking punks 888 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: from the park land it seems like against the law. Well, 889 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: i'll tell you what, Donna H. Look into that. We 890 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: don't want you to get in trouble, that's right, or 891 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: to do anything you shouldn't do. But I get the 892 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: urge to want to introduce things to your children that 893 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: you did back then that weren't necessarily proper. But the 894 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: nanny state will say no and throw you in jail. 895 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,959 Speaker 1: So don't try it, Donna. Yeah, maybe, I mean where 896 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: I saw the wetlands recently where I was hiking here 897 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: in Arabia Mountain. You can't beautiful granite outcroppings part of 898 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: Stone Mountain actually, and you can't. My daughter wanted to 899 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 1: take those rocks. As if you can't take the rocks, 900 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: we get thrown in jail by the nanny state. You 901 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 1: can't do it. You gotta leave those rocks. Um, what 902 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: else did Donna say anything else? Now? That's it. That's 903 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: from Donna H. That was great, Donna, thank you very much. 904 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: Be careful with the cattails. We won't tell if you do, 905 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: but we just don't want you to get in trouble. Um. 906 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: We're no snitches. Uh. If you want to get in 907 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: touch with us like Donna did, Uh, we want to 908 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: hear from you, and you can send us an email 909 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: to Stuff podcast at i heeart radio dot com. Stuff 910 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 1: you Should Know is a production of iHeart Radios How 911 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: Stuff Works. 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