1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: It's Christmas Day, the presents are open. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 2: You're gonna eat a lot of food, and you need 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: a little entertainment. 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for tuning in. 5 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 3: My beautiful wife and I are probably sitting around looking 6 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 3: at each other as our kids are grown and we're 7 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 3: here on Thanksgiving, and we talked about presents and said 8 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 3: the remodel is our present, like for the next five years. 9 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: So you're getting nothing, but. 10 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: Wow, we have the love of each other. You're good Lord, 11 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: and you fabulous people. I hope you're enjoying the Armstrong 12 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: and Getty replay. 13 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 4: The maker the robot vacuum Rumba, said today that it 14 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: has filed for bankruptcy. Apparently the whole company got themselves 15 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 4: into a corner and couldn't get out. 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: I only used the first generation room but and it 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: was next to worthless. 18 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: So you have claimed that it's got better over the years. 19 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: It did. 20 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: It did, although I stopped using it a couple of 21 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: years ago. I mean, I keep thinking I should go 22 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: back to it and then reprogram it and all, but 23 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: I just haven't. I was thinking about that with tech 24 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: this morning because I was having trouble with my Tesla, 25 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: and like the reason I like Tesla and Apple is. 26 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: It almost always does what it's supposed to do and 27 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: I don't have. 28 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: To like figure anything out. I don't want any tech 29 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: where I got to figure something out. If I have 30 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: to figure something out, it ain't worth it to me. 31 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: I just wanted to work the way it's supposed to work, 32 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: and very few tech things do. 33 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: Uh No, Rumbo is that way for me. 34 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, if I pick up absolutely everything and 35 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: set everything in. 36 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: Exactly the right spot, it can do its job. 37 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna do that, so yeah, it's it's I 38 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: haven't used the new new ones and that sort of 39 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: technology is just leapt forward. Like I know in the 40 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: world the golf automated moors are huge, absolutely huge. 41 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: I don't doubt that it'll get there. I'm sure. I'm 42 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: absolutely certain it will, but I don't know if it's 43 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: there yet. 44 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, rooms with a lot going on, chairs and toys, 45 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,279 Speaker 3: you got. 46 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: Kids and dogs. It's just. 47 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: Speaking of tech. Guy is at best Buy tweet out 48 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: a picture this. Yesterday. I tried on the latest generation 49 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: of the ray Bang glasses that have the tech in them, 50 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: although I haven't tried the ones that have the screen 51 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: in them yet. You have to set up an appointment 52 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: to do that. They won't let you just try that 53 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 2: out on your own. You have to make an appointment 54 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: and do like a twenty minute they show you how 55 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: they work. 56 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: Thing. 57 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: So there's the glasses we've talked about before. Our agent 58 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: uses them all the time, and there's a new generation 59 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: out that supposed to being better. You can answer the 60 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: phone that, you can listen to music, you can variety 61 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 2: of things with your glasses on, your sunglasses on, or 62 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: your eyeglasses on if you get the prescription. But then 63 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: there's the new one that's got the got a little 64 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: screen in there that people looking at you can't see, 65 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: but you can see it's in one of the lenses, 66 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: and like you can read your texts, and you can 67 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: have directions on there, like if you're walking down the street, 68 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: and various things like that. It's supposed to be pretty cool. 69 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: Based on the reviews that I've seen, they're eight hundred bucks. 70 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: Just kind of pricey. But I'll bet the idea with 71 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: these smart glasses is that you won't carry your phone. 72 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: It's gonna be the getting away from the phone. You 73 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: don't carry it anymore. Nobody says we're there yet on those, 74 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 2: but I'll bet that is where we're headed. You're gonna 75 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: wear some sort of glasses. You're not gonna carry a phone. 76 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: It's all gonna be in your glasses. And that'll be 77 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: within a couple of years. Yeah, I'm hoping to leave 78 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: tech behind and move to the woods. Like even stuff 79 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: to make face of old with Walden Pond and such, 80 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: even stuff. 81 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: That makes your life easier. 82 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to if it, like I said, if 83 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't work the way it's supposed to work, first try, 84 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: I ain't doing it. I don't want harder. I don't 85 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: want my life to get more complicated. I don't want 86 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: to get into a manual. I don't have to be 87 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: on the line with the with the it. It's just 88 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: got to work immediately, like most Apple stuff does, like 89 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: the Tesla stuff does. But but if it makes your 90 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: life easier, I'm prob you know. 91 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not exactly, but I have the luxury of 92 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 3: being in the part of my life since my kids 93 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: are grown, of seeking simplicity, whereas you don't really have 94 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: that luxury with your kids and their lives and the 95 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: rest of it. 96 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: So your life is pretty simple. 97 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: If You're sitting there with your glasses on and a 98 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: text comes in and you tap your fingers together and say, 99 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: and you just read it, then you respond to it. 100 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: Don't have to get out your phone, don't have to 101 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: do anything. It seems pretty simple. 102 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: You're dancing to the tune of your screen. Yeah wow? 103 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: Or are you gonna give it out texting? Are you gonna 104 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: go full Walden pond? No, I'm just going to give 105 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: up being plugged in all the time. I'm going to 106 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: be doing what I'm doing and not dividing my attention 107 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: with technology. 108 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: But this would be the same amount of texting you're 109 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: doing now, in an easier manner without getting in my doing. 110 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: Okay, am I doing a bad job of explaining myself, Katie? 111 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: Do you think or what? No? No, I think you're fine. 112 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: I think that the point of trying this, trying to 113 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: get you away from your phone is crap because you're 114 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: just putting your phone on your face. 115 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 3: Well right, And my point is all of that s 116 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: is going to be over there and I'm not going 117 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: to be paying any attention to it. 118 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mountain Man, more or less, you'll be. 119 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: I'm absolutely convinced that is the route to better mental 120 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: health and happiness. Whittling and writing poetry would be the Yeah, 121 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 3: a poetry about whittling. 122 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Yes, the once was a man who could whittle. Right, 123 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: Don't don't get me started. 124 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: Let's see spittle George Kittle, little little Okay, I'm trying 125 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 3: to avoid the obvious. Oh oh, breaking, breaking, not exactly news. 126 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: This is what everybody's going to be talking about. It 127 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: just broke in the New York Times minutes ago. Susie Wiles, 128 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: the White House Chief of Staff, evidently sat down for 129 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: eleven interviews with either Peter Baker. 130 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: Or the New York Times or him and. 131 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: His team, and the quote unquote highlights the things she 132 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: went ahead and said are unfreaking believable, given the fact 133 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: that she's still in the gig. This is like they've 134 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: been out of office two years and she writes her book. 135 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: Mister Trump has an alcoholics personality. 136 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 1: Doesn't it. Didn't I say that just a week ago? 137 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: You did? 138 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: He's an untreated alcoholic. I've thought that for years. 139 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: Ah, couldn't you give. 140 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: The nickel version for folks who because he doesn't drink, 141 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: he's never drank, his brother drank. 142 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: Himself to death. 143 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: Those of us in the world of alcoholism. Most of 144 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: us don't believe the drinking has very little to do 145 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: with being an alcoholic. It's a it's one of the 146 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: many symptoms of being an alcoholic. 147 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 1: You're either are or you aren't. 148 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: And it's got to do with the way your brain works, 149 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: in the way you look at the world and your 150 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: relationship to it. Fair enough, okay, And he and since 151 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: he's got since he's got it in his family, his 152 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: brother drank himself to death, it makes it fairly likely 153 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: he certainly has an obsessive Well, I don't know how 154 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: you and I don't know much about that concept, so 155 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: I'll let you choose the word. 156 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: But anyway, so she said that Vice President J. D. 157 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: Vance has quote been a conspiracy theorist for a decade, 158 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 3: and his conversion from Trump critic ally was based not 159 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: on principle, but was sort of political because. 160 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: He's running for the Senate. 161 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: Elon Musk is quote an avowed ketamine user who's an odd, 162 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: odd duck whose actions were not always rational and left 163 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: her aghast Russell t Vaught, the Budget Director, is a 164 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: right wing absolute zealot. Attorney General Pam Bondi completely whiffed 165 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: in handling the Epstein files, among other quotes. 166 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: This is very, very long. 167 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: But this is like when one of those tell all 168 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: books comes out and everybody goes to the index immediately 169 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: to see if they're mentioned in it, and then Washington 170 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: goes wild over it for a. 171 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: Couple of weeks or whatever. So much was in the 172 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: gig right now. So far, those all sound incredibly accurate. 173 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: Most of them are negative, except I don't think the 174 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: one on Elon is negative. Yes, he's an od duck. 175 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: I'm glad he's an nod duck. He's doing all kinds 176 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: of things because he's a nod duck. 177 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see. 178 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: Sheerage mister Trump to pardon the most violent riders from 179 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: jan six, but which he did. 180 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: Anyway. I agree with her on that. 181 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: She unsuccessfully tried to get him to delay his major 182 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: tariffs because of huge disagreements among his advisors. She said 183 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: the administration needs to quote look harder at deportations to 184 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: prevent mistakes, but she did not complain about being overruled, 185 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: and at various points she got on board with the 186 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: eventual decisions. There have been a couple of times where 187 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: I've been out voted, she said, and if there's a tie, 188 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: he wins. Sounds like the you know, description of the 189 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: job she has. Sure anyway, they'll be buzzin' about this 190 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: all day, certainly in all week. 191 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that she said that about her boss though. 192 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: About Donald Yeah, oh my. 193 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: Gosh, I'm reminded that she grew up with an alcoholic father, 194 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: the great sportscaster Pat Summer All. 195 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: Oh, did Pat Summarol get sober at some point or 196 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: was he drinking clear up to the end? 197 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: I remember late in his career. You remember the infamous 198 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: Super Bowl clip? Yeah, Michael, do we still have that? 199 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: That was just being old though, wasn't it. 200 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: I have to look at there are games where people 201 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: believe he was drunk, though, where he sounded drunk. 202 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 203 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: Well, hey, you're watching a football game. You have a 204 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: couple of peers to the math. Even most of your 205 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 3: viewers are drunk. We're all drunk together. You're going to 206 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: be a judge put on a road, right huh. 207 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: Anyway, that's enough of that. Okay, that's interesting. 208 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: I want to tell you a little bit where we 209 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: are in the Ukraine Russia peace deal thingy. 210 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: According to New York times. 211 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: The negotiations that went on all weekend and then including yesterday, 212 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: with Zelensky, European leaders, and even Trump getting on the 213 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: phone at various times to get involved in the meeting. 214 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: The United States, Ukraine, and Europe have agreed on a 215 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: NATO like guarantee for. 216 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: The security of Ukraine. That is unbelievable. 217 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: I can't believe this isn't bigger news, two US officials 218 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: said yesterday, as they tried to come up with a 219 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: peace proposal that would deter future aggression and still satisfy Russia. 220 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: Now they haven't agreed on the whole land things. Lensky 221 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: doesn't want to give up some chunks of land. Trump says, look, 222 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: they're going to take the land eventually. Anyway, you should 223 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 2: give it up. I don't know how they're going to 224 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: work that out. But to me, the bigger thing is 225 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 2: we're involved in a security guarantee, like we'll go to 226 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: war with Russia if they invade again. 227 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: We're just gonna have that on paper. 228 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: That's something that's got to be a Senate ratified treaty, 229 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: doesn't it. 230 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: The United States, Ukraine, and Europe have agreed on a 231 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: NATO LA I have no idea. I don't know enough 232 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: about that. 233 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: But many European countries have said they will put troops 234 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: in there. I don't know that we're going to put 235 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: troops in there, but if we're, if we're signed on 236 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: to some sort of agreement that if Russia comes back again, 237 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: we're in Wow. 238 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: Where does an agreement end and a treaty begin and 239 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: Senate ratification become necessary? 240 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no idea. 241 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: Presidents Lynsky, I'd want to look into that, make sure 242 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: it's an agreement that holds. 243 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed, of course, we might be you know, true, 244 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: the Euros might be saying we'll throw troops in and 245 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: we're just saying, yeah, well, absolutely, give you all the 246 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: arms and whatever. 247 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: But I suppose it could be. 248 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: For instance, France, Germany and Great Britain are going to 249 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: have troops in Ukraine, and if they were attacked, I 250 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: suppose our NATO guarantee kicks in at that point. Maybe 251 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: I mean German NATO lots of NATO troops are being attacked. 252 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, it's funny. I don't think I 253 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 3: printed it, but one of our beloved listeners, one of 254 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: you clever folks, said NATO just needs to invade Ukraine 255 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: under some idiotic pretext with the Zelenski's permission, have troops 256 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: all over the place and then say yeah, yeah, we 257 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 3: invaded better than you did. 258 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: It's ours now, and wait for the dust to settle. 259 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: Wow. 260 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: What an interesting idea. 261 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: NATO invades Ukraine, takes Kiev using my finger quotes right, 262 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: but lets them just operate as they've been operating. 263 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: And instead of fighting tooth and nail, the Ukrainians would say, yeah, 264 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: you need to go to the stop sign and take 265 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: a left, and that's where they would help. And Naty 266 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: would just say, this is NATO territory, well right, or 267 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: our troops are here. Attack on one is an attack 268 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: on all, so you got to stop attacking. 269 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: Wow, I don't know where this is going. Pretty interesting though. 270 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 3: The Armstrong and Getty show, Yeah, Borgia nor show podcasts 271 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: and our hot links. 272 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: Said this many times. 273 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: After your years of trying a number of different kinds 274 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: of therapy for me and my family, kids, marriage, all 275 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 2: kinds of different stuff, I. 276 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: Think it's mostly worthless. I really do, I really do. 277 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: I think it's mostly a waste of money, unfortunately, but 278 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: this is pretty good from a marriage psychologist who reveals 279 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: the number one sign of a future separation. And this 280 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: stuff is almost always crap, especially if it's in the 281 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: New York Post, which is where I got this, But 282 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: I thought this was really good. If you want to 283 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: know if your marriage is heading to splitsville, don't check 284 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: your partner's phone, check their face. 285 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: That you know. 286 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: There's so many stupid things out there, you know, the 287 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: one sign that he's gonna cheat or whatever the hell 288 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: I mean, they're just all dumb, but click bait. The 289 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: subtle smirk of superiority is the number one red flag 290 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: for divorce, according to this psychologist. And they get into why. 291 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: Research found that four nasty little habits, criticism, contempt, defensiveness, 292 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: and stonewalling are the four horsemen of the apocalypse when 293 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,359 Speaker 2: it comes to dooming relationships. 294 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: I'll read those four again. 295 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: Criticism, contempt, defensiveness, and stonewalling. 296 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: But contempt is the kiss of death. 297 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: That's the one, and you've said that for years, that's 298 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: the one you can't get past. 299 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: Done. The largest marriage experiment ever done. 300 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: They think of couples that you know, survive and don't survive. 301 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: Body language experts brought couples into a lab and if 302 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: one member of the couple shows a one sided mouth 303 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: rais which I had never heard before as like a 304 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 2: physical contempt thing. But I guess we're just programmed. When 305 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: we're feeling that feeling of contempt for something, or you know, 306 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: the oh pleaser, get out of here at that bs 307 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: or whatever feeling, you raise. 308 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: One side of your mouth. 309 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: It's funny if one member of the couple shows a 310 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: one sided mouth raised towards the other, he can tell 311 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: you if they're gonna get divorced because it's contempt. He 312 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: could predict divorce with an astonishing ninety four percent accurate. 313 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: Fear. 314 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: Now, this is the part I thought was really interesting. 315 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: Fear comes in a burst, and then you calm down. 316 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: Happiness comes and then you go back to normal. Anger 317 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: comes and then you calm down, but not contempt. If 318 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: you feel scorn or disdain for someone else, and if 319 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: it's not addressed, it just festers and grows and stays 320 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: at the same level. Fear, anger, and then obviously happiness 321 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: you get back to a normal level. 322 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: Contempt it does not go away. 323 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: And you know, in a definition of contempt, the feeling 324 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: that a person or a thing is beneath consideration worthless 325 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: or deserving scorn. 326 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: Yes, coming back from that. 327 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: I've not felt contempt, but I have been on the 328 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: wrong end of contempt, I think. And having read this, 329 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, that's what was insurmountable. I mean, because 330 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: once you have contempt for someone you don't agree, you 331 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: don't think they are worth listening to on anything. This 332 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: is how I feel. This is my priority. I don't 333 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: care right. Yeah, that's a tough one to get past. 334 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: So look out for contempt and whatever started to bring 335 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: it on. The point is you start to deal with 336 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: it right away. Otherwise it does just grow and fester 337 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: and then it gets into a situation where it might 338 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: not be reversible. They also believe it many couples get 339 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: stuck in an endless loop of the same three arguments 340 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: throughout the relationship. They just don't realize it. And if 341 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: you can nail down what your three most common arguments 342 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: are you and your partner, you can solve a lot 343 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: of problems. Like you get into something, you say, okay, 344 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: here we're in argument number two again. We always argue 345 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: about this, and you can you know, realize that you know, 346 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: you don't see eye to eye in this particular thing 347 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: and how you've dealt with in the past. Back to 348 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: the contempt thing discussed, and contempt are to a relationship 349 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: with gasoline, and matches are to a fire. The telltale 350 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: signs are irolling mouth, crimping, and then subtle fidgeting like 351 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: picking it closed or cleaning fingers mid conversation as signals 352 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: of disdain. This person said that they dubbed this move 353 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: the lint picker, a behavior that he says, screams contempt 354 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: louder than words ever could interesting. 355 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's probably worth presenting the other side of 356 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: the coin at some point. We don't have time now, 357 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: but how do you prevent that sort of thing? If 358 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: it in the bud? 359 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: Having lint on your shirt, no contempt in your nod? 360 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,359 Speaker 5: S Folk at a partisan an event to encourage Democrats 361 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 5: or Republicans to work to protect social security together, which 362 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 5: seems about as likely to happen as a reboot of 363 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 5: Fiddler on the Roof starring Kanye West. 364 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: But social security is number one for Joe Biden. 365 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 5: Literally, his social Security number is one. 366 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: That's kind of interesting as a lead into this. Republicans 367 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: nevercats not being able to work together. It would seem 368 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: that they could work together on cutting spending based on 369 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: this polling that just came out from the Cato Institute. 370 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: CATO is a serious think tank. It's a conservative think tank. 371 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: They worked with you Gov on this survey, and it's 372 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: one of your you know, really big, large number of people, 373 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: wide reaching, lots of questions sort of survey that comes 374 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 2: out every once in a while from these think tanks. 375 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: I don't know which of these numbers is my favorite. 376 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: There's a lot of them that are just mind blowingly 377 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: make me happy, but I can't believe because public will 378 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 2: is a real big part of getting anythings done in 379 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: a democracy. Obviously, if you got big majorities of people 380 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: that want something to happen, you should be able to 381 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: get it to happen and run on it. Here's my 382 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: favorite of all the spending we've done in the last 383 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: ten years, and we've done a lot of spending in 384 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: the last ten years. 385 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: Eighty five percent. Now that's a big number. 386 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: Whenever you get eighty five percent of people in agreement 387 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: on something. 388 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: You'd think you could get political will to do something. 389 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: Eighty five percent say that spending is either not helped 390 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: them or made their lives worse eighty five percent. 391 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: That's astounding. 392 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: You wouldn't get that from taking it in through the 393 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: mainstream media, who feels like all government programs are wonderful 394 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: and doges trying to cut back on any of them 395 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: as a horror. Eighty five percent of Americans say all 396 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: that spending has either not done anything for me or 397 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: actually made my life worth the worse. Forty two percent 398 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 2: no impact. Forty three percent say it reduced to their 399 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: quality of life. 400 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: Wow, that's got to be inflation, which is the greatest 401 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: teacher of economic principles in the history of mankind. 402 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: Well, or is it just I regularly say, and this 403 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 2: this is true for me in my own personal life. 404 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: I believe the government stops me from doing things more 405 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: than it helps me. 406 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I think so. 407 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and well, do you drive on the roads? Yeah? 408 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: We we know you're an idiot. 409 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 3: Course I'm not even gonna explain why you're more I know, moron. 410 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: And by the. 411 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: Way, this is a non partisan observation. Eight and ten 412 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: Democrats and nine and ten Republicans believe that the increase 413 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 2: in federal spending has either made their lives not better 414 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: or worse. 415 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: Boy, this is really heartening. 416 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 3: I know, if the Republican if the Republicans can keep 417 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 3: between the ditches and not roll the car of their 418 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 3: messaging over, it seems to me like the ground is 419 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: super fertile for some good, solid conservatism in the years 420 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: to come. 421 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: Three quarters of Americans say the government spends too much. 422 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: Love that, seventy six percent the government spends too much. 423 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: And again it's not a partisan thing at all. Majorities 424 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: of Democrats fifty nine percent of Democrats think the government 425 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 2: spends too much money. Well, you'd never get that from 426 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: the main from your mainstream media coverage. 427 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the question of what do you cut and 428 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 3: how and how much? 429 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: That's the devil is in the details. But we do 430 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: have an enormous generalized agreement that, yeah, we need to 431 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: cut again two thirds. You get the opposite message from 432 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: all of the coverage of doges, for instance. 433 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: So almost everyone agrees there is waste, fraud, and abuse 434 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: in the federal government. The number is ninety eight percent. 435 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 2: I have out know if I've ever seen a poll 436 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: that reached ninety eight percent. Usually you have more than 437 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: two percent. They're like, no opinion, I don't know, refuse 438 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: to answer. 439 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, but would you like me to stab you right now, 440 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: you might get ninety eight percent saying no, no opinion, 441 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 3: ninety I'm. 442 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: Not sure stab me as what. 443 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: Ninety eight percent broadly agreed there is waste, broader abuse 444 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: in the federal government. Of course, just to say no, 445 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 2: you'd be a crazy person. About half say there is 446 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: a great deal. Oh yeah, And twenty percent of moderate amount. 447 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: If hundreds of millions of dollars isn't a great deal 448 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: to you, what are you elon musk or something? 449 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 3: Man? 450 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, there's so many good numbers here, 451 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: I don't even know which ones to pick out the 452 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: most this one. One of the reasons this got attention 453 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 2: was some of the tax stuff yesterday. Fifty five percent 454 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: of Americans think their taxes are too high. 455 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: Which I thought was really interesting, especially especially given what 456 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: we were talking about yesterday on tax Day that the 457 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: top forty percent or so of income levels pay all 458 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: of the income tax. 459 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: But fifty five percent of American seatter taxes are too high. 460 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: Fifty five percent same number believe they pay more than 461 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: their fair share in taxes. Is interesting given the fact 462 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: that half the country does not pay federal taxes federal 463 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: income tax. Although you have to remember, you know, a 464 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: property tax hammers a lot of people. Sales tax, sales tax, 465 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: I think is probably what gets a lot of people. 466 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: Sure. 467 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: How about the controversial Trump tax cuts from twenty seventeen 468 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: and whether they should be extended or not? According to this, 469 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: eighty five percent of Americans support extending the twenty seventeen 470 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: tax cuts. 471 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: Eighty five percent. It's a gift of million as and 472 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: billion as. How is this a controversial issue? 473 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 3: If the mainstream media was not what they are, could 474 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 3: Democrats win a single election as they're currently constituted? 475 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 476 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 3: They need some of the best wordsmiths. Well, actually most 477 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 3: journalists are wordsmiths at all. They're parrots. 478 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: But they need the power of the media colossus to 479 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: polish their their their poop, if you will. I'm sorry, 480 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to use that common expression polishing 481 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: a turd because it's disgusting. But that's essentially but it's 482 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: good though. It's illustrative, Jack, I mean, it really makes 483 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: the point. There's got to be it's got to be 484 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: a better one, is there? It got to be that 485 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: doesn't include the T word. 486 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: Thoroughly lipsticking the pig of their policies. 487 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. 488 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: So. Three quarters of people agree with the statement the 489 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen tax cuts should be made permanent because businesses 490 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: and families need stability of the tax code to plan. 491 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 1: For the future. Three quarters agree with that. 492 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: Also, three quarters agree that tax cuts should be made 493 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: permanent because taxes are too high. Three quarters of Americans 494 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: think the Trump tax cuts should be made permanent because 495 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: taxes are too high. 496 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: Wow. Did you hear the pot about the millionaires? 497 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 4: Oh? 498 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: You did. Oh you're rejecting it. I gotta get that. 499 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: Then, since you brought that up, do the spending because 500 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: you'll that fits in perfect what you just said. A 501 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: majority of Americans admire the rich sixty five percent. Two 502 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: thirds disagree with the statement wealth should be taken from 503 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: the rich and given to the poor. 504 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: Two thirds of Americans disagree with that. 505 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 3: Wow, this is a different country than the media would 506 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: have you believed. 507 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: I'd eastly different. 508 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: Three out of five Americans strongly agree, ninety percent strongly 509 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: or somewhat agree that quote. There's nothing wrong with trying 510 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 2: to make as much money as you can. Ninety percent 511 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: strongly or somewhat agree with that. 512 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 513 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 2: When asked specifically about billionaires. Seventy one percent disagree that 514 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: it's immoral for society to allow people to become billionaires. 515 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: Seventy one percent don't agree with that statement. 516 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: You hear it all the time from the AOC Bernie crowd, 517 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren crowd, and they put it on the news 518 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: like that's you know, representing. 519 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: Half of America, right right, Yeah. 520 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: And anybody who does think we should make it impossible 521 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: to you know, become a billionaire, you. 522 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: Just you're so dumb. You are so dumb. We just 523 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: need you to. 524 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 3: Get out of the way, please. As if you come 525 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: up with a great idea that one person likes and 526 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: it makes you a dollar, that's fine. If a million 527 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 3: people like that idea and give you a dollar, that's fine. 528 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: But if a billion people like that idea and give 529 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: you a dollar, that's wrong. 530 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 3: Or to borrow again, you're just so dumb you need 531 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: to get out of the way. 532 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: Well, not near as many people agree with that as 533 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 2: I thought. And I've been misled myself, and you know, 534 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: we're in the industry and and uh, taking lots of 535 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 2: media and read lots of polls, but I've been misled 536 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: to think there that in modern America, there were way 537 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: more people that hate the rich and think something's wrong there, 538 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: then it seems to be true two thirds think wealth 539 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: should not be taken from the rich and given to 540 00:25:59,359 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: the poor. 541 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just didn't know. 542 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 3: So. I think part of the reason that our perception 543 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: might be a little warped is that even some of 544 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: my favorite conservative journalists are of the coastal elites variety. 545 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 3: And they're nice fellas, and they have great principles, but 546 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 3: I don't think they know America and listen to second sound, 547 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: absolutely do not. This is going to sound awfully like 548 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 3: a self backpadding, but I think as a couple of 549 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: guys from you know, fairly average families in the Midwest, 550 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: I don't feel like an elite anything. I've never hung 551 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: out with those people. I wouldn't be comfortable there. I 552 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: would much rather, you know, a drink beer with my neighbor, 553 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: Larry the truck driver. I just and I think maybe 554 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 3: we have that advantage, and we, all of us friends 555 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 3: have to trust our own perceptions instead of that of 556 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: the bizarro. 557 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: Funhouse mirror of the media. I know a lot of 558 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: you already believe. 559 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: That the fact that eighty five percent of people say 560 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: all that government spending has done nothing thing for them 561 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: or made their lives worse is amazing something. Yeah, and 562 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: you know over half of people say my taxes are 563 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 2: too high. All that fitting together, how do we not 564 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: get a government that spends less and keeps taxes low? 565 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: Well, I think you know, part of the answer would 566 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: be the swamp, which includes many Republicans and Democrats who 567 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: have a absolutely enormous financial interest in keeping government huge. 568 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: Right, there are solid majorities, and I could do more 569 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 2: than numbers, but I don't want to bore you to death, 570 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: but the solid majorities of people that think it's the 571 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: spending it's not the taxing, I mean that is that 572 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: is a settled issue in this country. It's the spending, 573 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: not the taxing, and we need to deal with it 574 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: from a spending standpoint. So we're not getting the government 575 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: we deserve on this front. 576 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so true. 577 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 3: It's encouraging people believe that in the numbers that they do. 578 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: It is discouraging that we are fighting to make any 579 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: progress in reigning in the insanity. But right, yeah, because 580 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: it's our duty, is citizens, So I guess we keep trying. 581 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's barely. 582 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: Uh, you're barely able to believe that democracy works. 583 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, look at the border issue. That's 584 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: what I've been saying for years. 585 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: It's not controversy at all either, Like ninety percent of 586 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: people want to secure border, but we haven't been able 587 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: to do it in my entire adult. 588 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: Lifetime, right right, Very frustrating. 589 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is nice job of those of you 590 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 2: out there who agree that all this spending is make 591 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: your life worse off anything. 592 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 593 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely need a moonshot style effort to reform education in 594 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 3: this country because it is absolutely killing us. 595 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: Michael. 596 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: It's a campus madness update, good and bad news. 597 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: Editions were good and bad news. 598 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 3: Screaming, how's madness, you idiot? 599 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I. 600 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: Was quite a scream Yeah, no kidding, Michael. 601 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: So disembovement figures into the story somehow, so well metaphorically speaking. 602 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: So we'll start with some good news, really interesting piece 603 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: about Tufts University, which is to the left of Trotsky 604 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: Boston area. But there's a professor by the name of 605 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: Hirsch there who teaches a class on American conservatism that 606 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: is always one hundred percent enrolled and extremely popular, and 607 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: he a man of the sane center left, has them 608 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: read Frederick Hayek's Road to Serve Them at ein RAN's 609 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: The Nature of Government, and then has lefty writers assigned 610 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: as well. 611 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: That says, all right, let's talk about this issue. 612 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: And it is a classic American education where you have 613 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: to understand both sides before you say which one you're on. 614 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: And he is systematic steel manning conservator arguments for the 615 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: college kids. 616 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: And the really encouraging part about this is the kids 617 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: love it. That's interesting. And poll after pol. 618 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: Has shown that a lot of college kids resent the 619 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: cancel culture and the bully culture and the radical culture, 620 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: but they just they're afraid or you know, intimidated into silence. 621 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: And there's a lot more curiosity out there than I 622 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: think you would think from looking at college camp. 623 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: God, are we. 624 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: Actually coming out of peak that? And we'll never have 625 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: to deal with it again, at least in our lifetimes. 626 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: I mean, did we just live through the pendulum swinging 627 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: to the far end of that nuttiness? 628 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 3: I share hope. So I don't know, I don't know. 629 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: I'm a little afraid of it. Being like a sports 630 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 3: team that you know, has a very bad beginning of 631 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: the season. Then they win six in a row and 632 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: you think all right, and then that is just a 633 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 3: blip and they go back to being bad. I think 634 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: there's so much of a fight to go on, but 635 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: let me plunge on here. 636 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: We can talk about this at length. 637 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: A great piece in the Free Press about how all 638 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: over the country, including in some surprising places, educators are 639 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: covering up for their own failures wholesale. We should have 640 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 3: the best education system in the world, they write, We 641 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: should have an education system that reflects us being a superpower. 642 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 3: But there's no one with a straight face who can 643 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 3: say that the United States has a world class education system. 644 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: And that's from a higher up in the New Jersey 645 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: Department of Education. 646 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: Now retired. 647 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 3: But they go through place after place where because they 648 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: are failing to meet any standard, they are systematically changing 649 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: the standards, including this shock to me. In twenty twenty four, 650 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 3: Oklahoma schools seemed to perform a miracle. They went from 651 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: twenty four percent proficiency in reading to forty seven percent 652 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 3: in two years, almost doubling the previous figure. 653 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: You see that number in a year. You know something 654 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: funky happened? Yeah, yeah, Indeed, if it sounds too good 655 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: to be true. That's because it was. 656 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: In last year Oklahoma lowered its cut scores, the score 657 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: a student needs to hit on test to be considered proficient. 658 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. That's good hearts law. Oh yeah. 659 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: Once, once a measure becomes a goal, it ceases to 660 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 2: be a good measure. 661 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: Yep. 662 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: Trend is also happening in New York State. After not 663 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 3: a single eighth grader in the upstate city of Schenectady 664 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: tested proficient in math in twenty twenty two, state officials 665 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: lowered the scores the following year. Wisconsin lowered cut scores 666 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: last year. Illinois is about to lower its scores, et cetera, 667 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 3: et cetera. 668 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: We did it. It's a lot of blue states, but 669 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: Oklahoma shocked me. 670 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: We've done it in California a couple of times. Well, 671 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: it speaks as much to the nature of bureaucracy as liberalism. Well, 672 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: it's a good hearts law. I mean that seems to 673 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: be a law no matter what you no matter your politics, 674 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: you come up with a goal, or you measure something. 675 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: Then you come up with a goal, and then you 676 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: just fudge to meet the goal. The measure doesn't work anymore. 677 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: And that's it happens over and over again. I can 678 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: come up with one hundred examples off the top of 679 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: my head, because I think it's a fascinating aspect of 680 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: the way the human brain works. But how are there 681 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: not People raise their hands, say, we can't be lowering 682 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: the standards. 683 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: We need to raise the quality field tradition. 684 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, lift up the children, don't drop the standards. 685 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: That'd be a good slogan. 686 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: Veering back to good news, the Department of Education on Friday, 687 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: Cancer which still exists, apparently canceled fifteen million dollars in 688 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 3: federal grants that were used to fund diversity programs at 689 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: three universities in California, State, La, Virginia Commonwealth, and University 690 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 3: of Saint Thomas and Minnesota. All had received giant, multimillion 691 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: dollar grants, part of a billion dollars a billion that 692 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: the Biden Education Department spent on diversity programs in America's schools, 693 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 3: nearly half of which went to grants for race based hiring. 694 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 3: That is, at least temporarily on the way out. Now 695 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: back to bad news. Two stories here that are adjoined 696 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 3: at the hip. Brown University Medical school. That's one of 697 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: your elite ivy leaguers. By the way, elite. I almost 698 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 3: vomit when I say that about these universities. But they 699 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 3: now give diversity, equity and inclusion more weight than excellent 700 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 3: clinical skills in its promotion criteria for faculty, raising questions 701 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 3: duh about the equality of teaching and patient care at 702 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 3: the elite medical school and underscoring how deeply deis penetrated 703 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 3: medical education. Again, when they decide what faculty to promote, 704 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 3: they now give DEI more weight than excellent clinical skills. 705 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: I saw that over the week in medicine. I meant 706 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: to mention now on the air that is absolutely amazing. 707 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: I was looking at the actual paperwork, the criteria, and 708 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 2: really your plan for how you're answering the question of 709 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: how you're going to get diversity, equity inclusion into your 710 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: your medical practice is more important than your actual skills, right? 711 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: That is? 712 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: Or it's important? How is that even possible? The Armstrong 713 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: and Getty Show