1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey fam Today on the bright Side, the 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: incredible Tica Sumpter is here. You know her from Sonic 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: the Hedgehog, The Haves and the have Nots, and the 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Ride Along Franchise, And today she's sharing how she's reimagining 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: children's entertainment plus the key to getting kids to open 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: up and reveal their true emotions. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: It's Monday, February seventeenth. I'm Danielle Robe and. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm Simone Boyce and this is the bright Side from 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Hella Sunshine. 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: Danielle. It's time for another on my Mind Monday. Yes 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: it is. We love this time a week. Yes we 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: do well. 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Before I share what's on my mind, I'm actually going 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: to take a look back over the last month and 15 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: when I think about the days, the moments, the scenes 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: that really stand out in my mind. The highlights have 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: been these top tier YAP sessions with my girlfriends. Whether 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: it's watching Sex and the City with hyaluronic masks on 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: in our hotel room or just sitting around on the 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: floor in our pj's with the charcuterie board, it just 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: really fills my cup. 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's nothing better. I know. 23 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: I love a low key app session. Like there's something 24 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: that is so comforting about being able to show up, 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: like no makeup on, bear faced hair, not done, sweats on. 26 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: It's just so liberating. 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: So my girlfriend's from college and I actually have a rule. 28 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: We get together at least once a month for dinner 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: at my friend Chloe's apartment, and pajamas are mandated. We 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,919 Speaker 2: only order food in so that there's no work for anybody, 31 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: and everyone has their hair in a bun and is 32 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: just like ready to talk and laugh or cry and 33 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 2: do absolutely nothing. 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: It's the best. It doesn't get any better than that. Yeah, 35 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: So now they're on the same page. I was delighted 36 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: to read this really sweet article in Self magazine that's 37 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: actually all about the mental health benefits that we get 38 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: from yapping with our besties. 39 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, tell me, I feel them. But I 40 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: want to know what the science says. 41 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: Well, it turns out science actually has our back on this, Danielle, 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: because this article cided a twenty twenty three study that 43 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: found that the social and direct actions you have with 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: your friends can improve feelings of connection and well being. 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: Now that might not be surprising to a lot of us, right, 46 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: but what I found particularly interesting is that it turns 47 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: out the content of the conversation doesn't matter. 48 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: It's the conversation itself. 49 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: So what you're saying is we don't have to have 50 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: our brain waves sync up and have this really deep 51 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: and meaningful moment. We can just be like giggling and 52 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,559 Speaker 2: laughing and talking about nothing. 53 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: Right right. 54 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you well enough at this point 55 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: to know that you and I are the type of 56 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: people to think that, you know, a really deep and 57 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: meaningful conversation with our friends is what's going to build 58 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: a more profound connection. But what this research reveals is 59 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: that mundane chitchat can be just as powerful. 60 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: So I actually have this theory about small talk because 61 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: a lot of people despise small talk aka talking about nothing, 62 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: But I think that small talk leads to big talk. 63 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: And so in a weird way, you're kind of signaling 64 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: to your friends or to strangers that you're with that 65 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: you're present, you're available for conversation. I think it reduces 66 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: social pressure and you're just you're there to have fun 67 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: and hang out. It's like a sign, hey, I'm here 68 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: and I'm ready for this non forced intimacy. 69 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: I think that's a really a stude observation, Danielle. I 70 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: think sometimes starting with that mundane chit chat can kind 71 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: of take off this pressure valve, and it allows this 72 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: release for the profound conversation to come out. Like I 73 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: think about some of the biggest, you know, mental breakthroughs 74 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: in my own life that I've had, have come from 75 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: these sorts of conversations with my girlfriends where we think 76 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about nothing, but oh my goodness, we wind 77 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: up talking about these major life events that really shaped us. 78 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's like unscripted vulnerability, right, yeah, absolutely, Well, we're 79 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: chitchatting today and we have a really special guest. 80 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: I can't wait to yap with her. 81 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: Tika Sumter has been dominating at the box office in 82 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: the mega hit franchise son the Hedgehog, but you've seen 83 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: her so many other places. 84 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: You've seen her on Mixed Dish, You've seen. 85 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: Her on Gossip Girl, One Life to Live, the Haves 86 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: and the have nots. She even start along Snoop Dogg 87 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: in a sports comedy film named The Underdogs. 88 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm still stuck on Sonic the Hedgehog, though my boys 89 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: are absolutely obsessed. When I told them that we're talking 90 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: to sonic's mommy today, they just flipped out. 91 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: So she's a complete hero in my household. 92 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: And now she's actually building her own entertainment empire that's 93 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: focused on children's education. Tica's co created a new podcast 94 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: with her husband called Adventures of Curiosity Cove and it's 95 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: designed to help kids learn about the process of managing 96 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: their emotions. And it was actually inspired by her eight 97 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: year old daughter, Ella, and Ella is a huge fan 98 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: of the podcast. So I just love that this is 99 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: a family affair. And next month, TKA's releasing her debut 100 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: children's book called I Got It from My Mama. 101 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: It's so good. 102 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: I got to read the book and the main character's 103 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: name is based off of her daughter Ella. Her name 104 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: is Ella the Curious, which you know, I love. I 105 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: think it's so special that she creates content with her 106 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: daughter in mind. 107 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: You know, Oh completely, that's the dream come true. We'll 108 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: stick around, y'all. We'll be right back with Tica Sumter. 109 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 3: Tico. Welcome to the bright Side. 110 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you for having me. I'm excited to 111 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 4: be on the bright side. 112 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome. 113 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: I am looking forward to the major street cred that 114 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to get with my four year old for talking. 115 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: To Maddie from Sonic. He is going to flip out. 116 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: Sonic is like a religion in our house, so this 117 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: is a big moment for me as a mom. 118 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 4: We'll tell him Sonic's mom. Maddie says, hello, I will 119 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I gonna love it. 120 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so cool. 121 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 5: Yeah. 122 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to get into Sonic of it later. 123 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: But in addition to being a leading lady at the 124 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: box office, you recently began creating content that's geared toward 125 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: early childhood development and entertainment. And we know that there's 126 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: a ton of kids programming out there, right. I'm sure 127 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: that you were aware of that how saturated the market 128 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: was before jumping in, But what did you think was 129 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 1: missing as a mother, Like what gaps were you trying 130 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: to fill? 131 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, to be honest, when we were listening to some 132 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: of the podcasts that are out there now, they're different 133 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 4: genres of kids entertainment, right, Like some is more for history, 134 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 4: and I wanted more emotional intelligence and broader stories. 135 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 5: It's not just one specific kind of stories. 136 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: We have one series in there, but then everything else 137 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: is just dealing with different kinds of emotions that come. 138 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 5: Up for kids. 139 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: And because this is what we do, we knew that 140 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 4: we could give a good listening experience to kids, not 141 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: only just through sound, but also we are creators, we 142 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 4: write stories, we are writers as well, and I knew 143 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 4: production value was I wanted to give that to kids. 144 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: And I also I knew I was onto something when 145 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: Ella was like, hey, Mom, can we listen to Adventures 146 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 4: of Curiosity Cove? And I'm like again, And it also 147 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 4: helped start conversation. That's what I knew something was different. 148 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 4: It wasn't just like geared toward Hey, this is only 149 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: for my kid, it's going to be annoying to listen 150 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: to this with them, but it was something for everybody 151 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: if they wanted to listen. 152 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: To tell me about the kind of conversations that it 153 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: sparked in your home. 154 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 155 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 4: So my husband wrote the story called The Dragon, and 156 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: it's basically about this little boy who is basically going 157 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: through the woods to walk to school. But every time 158 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: he walks to school, he's afraid. He's afraid of the woods, 159 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: you know, it makes these noises. And one day he 160 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: meets his dragon, and the dragon is actually a representation 161 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: of fear and one of the conversations that came out 162 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: of that, which was very random, well, I don't know 163 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: if it was random. My daughter Ella was sitting in 164 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: the back. She goes, Mom, what's your biggest fear? 165 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: You know? 166 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: And then she asked her dad, and then we asked 167 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: her what her biggest fear was, and she had an answer. 168 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: And so with all of that, I'm like, whoa, Like 169 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: just that fun story. It brought that up, and she 170 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: asked me what my biggest fear was? 171 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: Are you sure this as a children's podcast and not 172 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: for adults, because I feel like I could benefit from it, 173 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: and I'm sure ten people I know could as well 174 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: who are fully grown. 175 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 5: Oh my yes. And that's the point, right. 176 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: I think that was the difference in the marketplace is 177 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: we know what it's like to sit through something and 178 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: being like I'm going to fall asleep or I'm. 179 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: Just gonna go and look. 180 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: I made it for when moms need a break or 181 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 4: moms or parents or whoever need a break, and they're like, yes, 182 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: go play with your toys and have this listening situation. 183 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 5: Use your imagination. But it's also like we're in the car, 184 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 5: we're out of the. 185 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: Pickup line, kids don't want to talk about their day 186 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 4: at school because we used to just get yeah, everything 187 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: was fine, you know, so now it's like more of 188 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: a conversation. 189 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: I'd be fighting for my life in that pickup line. 190 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: So thank you. 191 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: I feel like if you give kids the space to 192 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 4: actually talk, yes, they're almost like the mini Socrates of 193 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 4: our time. I feel like if you actually pay attention 194 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: and don't try to shush them so much. Our thing 195 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 4: was like we were rushing through life all time. And 196 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: when you rush through life like that, I know it's 197 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: hard for a lot of parents. But sometimes when you 198 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 4: give them just space to breathe and be silent or 199 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: just listening. And that's what we wanted to do, is 200 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: spark imagination, spark things that maybe you never get to 201 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 4: talk about with your kid and you didn't even know 202 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: they were thinking it. And I think if you just 203 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: give them a moment, like mister Rogers he said, sometimes 204 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 4: when they're talking slow, they're getting their thoughts, like it 205 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: takes them a moment and ed, we're so like, what 206 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: say the answer? Say the answer, you know, and we 207 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: don't give them space to just like assess. 208 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 5: So I think that was really important. 209 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: Things that's such a beautiful learning to take away for anybody. 210 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: I'm curious what creating this podcast and these books have 211 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: taught you about how you understand your own feelings and 212 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: how you manage them when you were a kid. 213 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 5: Feelings. I don't even know what that is as a kid. 214 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know. It was more of a like, go. 215 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: Do what I told you to do because I said, so, 216 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 4: that's thee. 217 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: That was the answer. 218 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 4: And sometimes there are moments where it's like why because 219 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: I said, go, you need to go clean your room 220 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: right now. 221 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 5: There is no explanation of why. Like sometimes that's just what. 222 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: It is, right, I'm laughing because I was raised by 223 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: a black mom too, and that's just what it was. 224 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: There was no fighting and what it was you crying. 225 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna give you something to cry about, like 226 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like all those things that we. 227 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 5: Know very well. 228 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: And so I was just like or the look, you know, 229 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 4: like uh uh. And I always say like I don't 230 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: want to obviously my mom is my best friend, and 231 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: don't demonize her ever, But what I will say is it. 232 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 5: Was a different time. 233 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: She just didn't have time to do all that conversation stuff, 234 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 4: and I just said I wanted to raise my child 235 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 4: a little bit different. Now I do have those moments 236 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 4: of girl, if you don't, if you don't right now, 237 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 4: you know, the conversation's a little too long. 238 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: And no, well we have to mention that your mom 239 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: was a corrections officer at Riker's and you're one of 240 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: seven kids, so you had a full house, like there 241 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: was a lot going on with a little Tika. 242 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: Yes. 243 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: No, everything you're saying, Tica is resonating. I was raised 244 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: by a mom who like spanked me and all that stuff, 245 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: and it's like now raising kids in this age, it 246 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: feels like we have choices now as to how we parent. Yep, 247 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: the conversation and the approaches and the philosophies have really 248 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: opened up. And while I think gentle parenting works for 249 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: gentle kids, I think that there's some there are some 250 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: aspects of gentle parenting that I'm trying to incorporate into 251 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: my overall approach. 252 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 5: Exactly. I feel like it's a mixture. 253 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: I don't think it's all one thing, right, Yeah, I 254 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 4: don't think it's for me. I know I'm not an 255 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 4: all gentle parenting person. That's just not me same, but 256 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: I do. What I do like about it is teaching 257 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: your kid boundaries and teaching them respecting what they have 258 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 4: to say, because they're not just these little robots walking 259 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: around with nothing in their brains, Like you know, they 260 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: have genius in there, and so I feel like if 261 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: you don't create a world in which they can express 262 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 4: that genius or that emotional intelligence, it gets harder as 263 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 4: an adult to do it. 264 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 1: The big thing for me that I've realized that I 265 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: missed from my own relationship with my mother was the repair, 266 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, like after she would kind of overstep as 267 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: a mom or lose her temper as I do often, 268 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm human. There was no apology that came after, 269 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: but I found that like, just taking that time to 270 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: apologize to my kids, have that real conversation has been 271 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,359 Speaker 1: like so beautiful for our relationship. 272 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 3: Listen, that's a huge part of your book. 273 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 5: That's a huge part of my book. 274 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 4: I Got It from My Mama is literally about this 275 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 4: little girl who's like she's trying to be like her 276 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 4: mom throughout the whole book. Right then her mom has 277 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: a challenging moment and yells at her hands, like get 278 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 4: out the kitchen, I'm done, and they have a quiet 279 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: ride to school, and then she goes to school and 280 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 4: literally is exactly what her mom did at home to 281 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 4: a friend and she yells at this friend and her 282 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: mom comes and picks her up and she's like, hey, 283 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: how was your day. She's like it was okay, and 284 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 4: she tells her what happened, and she's like the mom's like, 285 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: where'd you get that from? 286 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 5: And she's like, I got it from you, mama, and 287 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 5: just like you said. 288 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: Oof, she gets she bends down and she apologizes to 289 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: her child. So the repair is there, And I think 290 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: that's the difference now, right, Like we're gonna mess up, 291 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 4: we know that, yeah, but it's the repair. 292 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: It's making it. Heyugh, I made a mistake. 293 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: I was in a moment or whatever that was, or 294 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: here's why. And they repair and it basically ends with like, 295 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 4: you know, I get a lot I want to be 296 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 4: like my mama, but I also want to be a 297 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 4: lot like me. Like me is also great, and so 298 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 4: so sometimes I think what happens is we obviously hold 299 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: our parents on this pedestal and we think they're just like, 300 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 4: especially when you're young, it's like they're kind of untouchable, 301 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: and then you see the fallibility of them who they are, 302 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 4: and you're like whoa, because you start seeing it in 303 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: your own life. The quicker they know that you're not 304 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 4: this like golden statue, I think the better for me it. 305 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: Is what did you get from your mama at Tika? 306 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: What are you repairing? Ooh, that's good? 307 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 5: What am I repairing? 308 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: I think for me, like I remember now, like I 309 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: used to chase my mom for validation, like even now, 310 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: like you're like, does my mom like it? 311 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 5: Like if she said it. 312 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: Was okay and good, then I thought it was good, right, 313 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 4: Like I remember wanting to She used to works corrections 314 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: and she would come home and I would just clean 315 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: the house. You know, I did something good for you, 316 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: Like I always wanted her to be like wow. And 317 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 4: so for me getting older, I had to create a 318 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 4: boundary for myself for knowing that everything I do is 319 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: enough for me and my family now like I created 320 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: my own family and it has nothing to do with 321 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: getting the okay. 322 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 5: For my mom. That was a hard one. 323 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: It was almost like taking the umbilical court away from me, 324 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: because I really do love. 325 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 5: My mom's opinion. 326 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 4: But sometimes I think parents getting in the mix of 327 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: our relationships can be detrimental to the relationship boundaries, boundaries, 328 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: and ourselves, not even just relationships, it's like our own 329 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: relationship with ourselves right, Like chasing after that validation is 330 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 4: the repair for me of Like, while I value the 331 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: opinion at times, I don't need it all the time anymore. 332 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, that's so real. 333 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: I used to joke with my girlfriends that my mom's 334 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: opinion mattered so much to me. I have brown hair, 335 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: but if she told me I had purple hair, I'd 336 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: be like, oh, yeah, I have purple hair. 337 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: Like what she said was gospel. 338 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: And it's so hard when you grow up like that 339 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: to take yourself out of that. 340 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: I still struggle sometimes. 341 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, if she comes in my house and 342 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 4: she doesn't say anything about my hair, I'm like, she 343 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: hates my hair, she doesn't like my she doesn't like 344 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: my hair. Or when she calls me and she's like, 345 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 4: oh my god, girl, that was amazing what you wore 346 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: and then doesn't say anything else about anything, I'm like, wait. 347 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 5: So only that one time, you know. 348 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 4: It's so crazy how wrapped up we are in there, 349 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 4: like cocoon. It feels like for life, but kind of untangling. 350 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 4: It is also very nice. 351 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: You've written such a beautiful book. And as I was 352 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: reading the description, there's a few lines that stood out 353 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: to me, and one of them is because parenting is 354 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: never perfect. Why was it important for you to include 355 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: that line? 356 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 5: It was important because my parenting, I know, isn't like. 357 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: I knew, literally how while I knew how imperfect I was, 358 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 4: is literally my daughter. I give birth to my daughter 359 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: and I'm like, literally, not even that long after, I'm like, 360 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: so we need therapy, like my husband and I I'm like, 361 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 4: I know I have baggage, I know I'm a mess. 362 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: I just know that parenting isn't perfect and your kid 363 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: doesn't need you to be perfect. And I wanted to 364 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 4: validate that for parents and for aunties and all of it, 365 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: for Godmothers, for all of it, Like, kids do not 366 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: need you to be perfect. They need you to show 367 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 4: up and they need you to listen, and they need 368 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: you to be there. 369 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 5: But I just wanted to. 370 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 4: Give parents the past to say today was not a 371 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 4: good day, and that's okay, and even through that, you're 372 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 4: teaching your kid that's just not realistic that every single 373 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 4: day is going to be like this perfect brand of parenting. 374 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: I read this book last year called Real Self Care 375 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: by Pooja Lakshmin, and it was honestly a big game 376 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: changer for me mentally. And there's this one phrase that 377 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: is in the book. She calls this idea the good 378 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: enough mother, and there are some principles that she says 379 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: the good enough mother lives by. She says, I'm okay 380 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: with making mistakes. I'm not defined by being selfish or selfless. 381 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: I can extend the compassion I give to others to myself. 382 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: And so the framing of being a good enough mom 383 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: has been so helpful for me to just own and 384 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: helpful as I try to move away from that impossible 385 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: standard of perfectionist. 386 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: Well, I even think if you're not a mom, right, like, 387 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 4: if you're just in general a woman. 388 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 5: And because we're usually rough on ourselves the most, I 389 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 5: feel like I. 390 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: Feel like guys are able to be like, hmmm, I 391 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 4: look amazing or I'm great. 392 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: You know, even when they don't, even when they. 393 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 5: But I'm like, can I have some of that? Because 394 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 5: I want that? 395 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: And so I always say things like, hey, Tico, would 396 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 4: you talk to your best friend like that. Would you 397 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: tell your best friend the things you're telling yourself? Absolutely not. 398 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 4: Would I tell my daughter that? No, absolutely not. So 399 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 4: it helped me to like reevaluate, reassess how not only 400 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 4: do I give myself the space to be like, Look, 401 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: I can't do all the things I told my husband Nick, 402 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: I can't do another thing. My brain feels like it's 403 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 4: gonna break. I feel like I'm gonna break, and I 404 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: can't even cook. I can't do anything right, like to 405 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 4: confess that and say I can't do anything, and then 406 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 4: he texts it back. He said, your only job is 407 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 4: to go and rest. Now go do that. 408 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: That's a good man, Savannah, Savannah, that's a good man. 409 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, don't you lift a finger, Go sit 410 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 4: down and do nothing. I'm able to say that because 411 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: I went. 412 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: To therapy and I created. 413 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 4: This space that I think every person deserves in general, 414 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: whether it's a friend, whether it's a husband or whatever, 415 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 4: but the space to just say I just can't because 416 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 4: you can't, you can't do it all. 417 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: I do want to know more about this, good man. 418 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: So your podcast is a family affair. You and your 419 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: husband Nick co created it together. Asking as someone who 420 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: does not work well with my husband. I am I 421 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: want to know everything about this girl. 422 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 5: Nobody said we. 423 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: Work well, just working. 424 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 5: I'm just working. 425 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 3: We made a podcast. We made it. 426 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: We did it and it was easy, but we made it. 427 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: Where do you feel like you're you're different? Like, where's 428 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: the contrast when you guys are working together. Where the 429 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: tension come from for you? And where's the success? 430 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? I think the tension comes from we both have 431 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 5: a well, it's more me. 432 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: I'm more like control, like say it like this, do 433 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: it like this, and he's like, Tico, let me do 434 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 4: me you know what I mean. And I'm like, okay, fine, 435 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: like releasing control for me, Like that's the tension, right yes, 436 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 4: And for him it's like he's very like, give me 437 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: a direction, tell me what you need and I. 438 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: Can fulfill the need. Like he's easy like that. When 439 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: would you say you really hit your stride as parents? 440 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 5: Ooh, that's a good question. 441 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 4: I think we hit our stride at like five and six. 442 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: I feel like my sweet spot is now because I 443 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 4: think five and six we were like, oh this is 444 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: getting easier, and now eight we're like whoo. Every time 445 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: I'm like my my baby maker is like I want 446 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: one more. I'm like, ooh, we're out of the woods. 447 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: Wait now I'm excited to see if you end up 448 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: having one more. 449 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 5: Oh, girl, I think that shit is sailed. 450 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 4: Well. 451 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: Part of it is that you're so busy working all 452 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: the time. You had a huge year at the box office. 453 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 2: Simone mentioned at the top. You're part of the Sonic franchise. 454 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: It grossed over a billion dollars at the box office 455 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: and it's probably a big hit in your household too. 456 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: Did you take on the role because of your daughter 457 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: at all? 458 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 459 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 5: I did. Actually, she really can't watch many. 460 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: Things that I've done or are doing, so this was 461 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 4: like something for me and for her. When it came around, 462 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 4: I was so so grateful to be part of such 463 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 4: an amazing team and part of a legacy of things 464 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 4: that kids are going to grow up with, Like I'm 465 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 4: in their lives forever. 466 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 5: So that made me really happy. 467 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: I heard that she knows more about the characters than 468 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: you do. Does she school you? Girl? 469 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 4: She embarrassed me the other day we to the Sega 470 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 4: offices and she's like, they're showing us everything. She's like, Mom, 471 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 4: you didn't even know about Rouge like you didn't. She's 472 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 4: like naming characters that She's like, you, mom, you did 473 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: not know about that character? And I was like yeah, 474 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: and I'm like, you're right, I didn't you help me? 475 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 4: You know, She's basically like calling me out on things 476 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 4: I didn't know because I was like, oh yeah, uh huh. 477 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 4: And she's like you didn't know that, mom? 478 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: So rude. How dare you seem to Maddie that way? 479 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: Dude? 480 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 4: Like so rude? 481 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 5: But yeah, she is teaching me, so hey, you got 482 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 5: to give it to her. 483 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: We've got to take a quick break, but we'll be 484 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: right back with Tika Sumter. And we're back with Tika Sumter. Well. 485 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: Jim Carrey has made a lot of headlines being a 486 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: part of the Sonic franchise as well, just a comedy 487 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: legend all around, and I'm so fascinated by him personally. 488 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: What surprised you the most about working with him and 489 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: spending so much time with him. 490 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: What surprissed me is like not on camera as off camera. 491 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: It's like some of us went out to dinner, and 492 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 4: it's the conversations that you get to have on a 493 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 4: human level, Like he's just like literally when they're like 494 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 4: they're just like stars, just like us. He's not only 495 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: valuable in the sense of like, oh, I'm Jim Carrey, 496 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: but in conversation you feel like he's listening to you. 497 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 4: Even when he gives advice, it's not like I'm giving 498 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 4: you advice. 499 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 5: He puts himself in there. 500 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 4: I remember we were just talking about family and like 501 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 4: different things, and he was so vulnerable and I was like, wow, 502 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: you admitted that to me, Like he wants to connect, 503 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 4: and I think that translates in what he does, right, 504 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 4: it does. 505 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: Like I can tell that I've never met him, but 506 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: I can just tell that he would be a person 507 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: like that. 508 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 5: He is a person like that. He really is. 509 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: Oh did any of the conversations that you had with 510 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: him change your own philosophy as to how you approach 511 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: the projects that you select? 512 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 4: Hmmm, Like for me, he does things that he loves, 513 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 4: you know. 514 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 5: And I think at the beginning. 515 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 4: Of our careers, like while we would love that idea 516 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 4: of like do everything you love, like I love when 517 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 4: people are like when. 518 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 5: I chose this project, you know, like. 519 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 4: I mean, God bless everybody who says stuff like that. 520 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: I wand of love this about you. 521 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: That is the realist thing anyone's ever said on our shows. 522 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: That was hilarious. 523 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 5: I mean, God. 524 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 4: Bless everybody who can choose things like that, But it's 525 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 4: a very small percentage of people who can actually do that. 526 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 4: And especially because I remember coming up as an actress, 527 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: You're like. 528 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 5: Dude, I need to pay my bills. I want to 529 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 5: do this full time, like anything that I can keep trying. 530 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 4: You know, like, if you're not able to get on set, 531 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 4: how are you going to learn. 532 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 5: You can't just be in a class all day. 533 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 4: You got to be in the arena to learn how 534 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 4: to fight and. 535 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 5: To do it. 536 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 4: So it always baffles me when you know people are like, 537 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: as you get further in your career, yes there are options, 538 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 4: but it's even a different level of like okay, you're 539 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 4: an option, and now you're an option with just like 540 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 4: maybe two other. 541 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 5: People that we are having, you know what I mean. 542 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: Also, when you're in a creative field, it is a 543 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: gift to get paid to get your reps in and 544 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: like that's so underrated. 545 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 5: Say that again, Say that again. 546 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: When you're in a creative field, it's such a gift 547 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: to get paid to get your repsin. 548 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 5: There we go like people don't understand. 549 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 4: First of all, the percentage of people going out for 550 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 4: the one role. Then even when you get a call back, 551 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: that's a another small percentage, and then getting the thing 552 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 4: and not getting fired is another percentage, and being replaced. 553 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 4: There are so many levels to this creative thing that 554 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 4: we do that it's just like I think people think 555 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 4: it's like, oh, you should have did this, you should 556 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: have did that role, you should have did that part. 557 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 5: And I'm like, girl, be stormed, you know in. 558 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 4: Marvel, like you should go and be And I'm like, really, 559 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: can you call them? 560 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: That's so funny and so real? Yeah, so real? Yeah, Okay. 561 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: One thing that you did choose though, that I think 562 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: is very cool is that you're about to work on 563 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: another movie with the mogul Tyler Perry, and it's a 564 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: project that you co wrote. So you and Tyler obviously 565 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 2: have a long standing relationship, but it's the very first 566 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: time that he's directing a movie he hasn't written. 567 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Antika, if anybody. 568 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: Saw his documentary, they know that he is so notorious 569 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 2: for being all of the things on all of the projects. 570 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, how did you convince him to do this? 571 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 4: Well? Okay, so I co wrote a script with my 572 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 4: friend Katori. She's actually a writer on Pea Valley. 573 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: I'm so obsessed with her. 574 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 575 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 4: So, my friend Kimiando Katuno is an EP. She's a 576 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 4: producer on the show, and she's a one of the 577 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 4: lead writers of Pea Valley, who my friend Katori. 578 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 5: Is the creator of. And so we wrote this project. 579 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 4: Together, and I brought it to other people before and 580 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 4: they were like, oh, we love it, but they couldn't 581 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 4: get it done. And I was like, you know what, 582 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 4: people call their friends all day long in this industry. 583 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 5: They put their. 584 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 4: Friends in every movie. I'll call my friend. I've known 585 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 4: him for a very long time. I've worked with him 586 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: multiple times, and he is like a big brother. 587 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 5: And I call him and he's like, send me script. 588 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 4: He calls me, matter days, love it, love it all right. 589 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 4: Let me call Netflix or Amazon and Seat or whoever. 590 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 4: Let me see if they want to do this. 591 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 5: Okay. He calls me. He's like, so, yeah, Amazon wants 592 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 5: to do the movie. And I go what. I just 593 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 5: fall on the. 594 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 4: Floor and I start crying and I'm like, are you kidding. 595 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 4: He's like, no, I'm not kidding, And we're gonna start 596 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 4: pre production in like. 597 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 5: A few months. Do you know how long. 598 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 4: It takes to do anything in this town? Do you 599 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 4: know how many meetings before the meetings before the meeting 600 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 4: before the meeting, at. 601 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: Least like two years, at least like at a minimum, at. 602 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 5: A minimum two years. 603 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 4: That thing was in production so fast. So that man, 604 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: let me tell you you want something done, he gets 605 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 4: it done. And then the fact that he wanted to 606 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 4: direct it. He's never he writes his stuff like that's 607 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 4: what he does. He does all the things. He's like, 608 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 4: this is you you're really going to be producing this thing? 609 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 4: And he did that, and we have most of the 610 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 4: movie in the cans. 611 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 5: So I'm super excited. 612 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 2: That's such a feather in your cap because that means 613 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: he really trusts you. 614 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: Tika, you said that you fell on the floor crying 615 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: when you got the news that you know, Tyler was 616 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: able to facilitate a production deal through with Amazon. 617 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: What was it about that? Yes, that meant so much 618 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: to you. 619 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 5: Hmm, that's a good question. 620 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 4: In this business, there's little validations that you get along 621 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 4: the way, like yeah, you're onto something to me, the 622 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: concept of film execution, of actually getting it on paper, 623 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: and like my vision was validated, Like, wait a, Sey, 624 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: You're not crazy. You're not crazy, because the amount of 625 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 4: knows you get right in our industry will make. 626 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 5: You feel nuts. It'll make you feel like. 627 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 4: You're not valuable, you're always the maybe next time, and 628 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 4: you're like, no, the time for me is now, you know. 629 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: And so that validation that yes, that my first co 630 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 4: writing credit I've produced before, but like really producing this 631 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: and the thing that. 632 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 5: Started as an idea is actually going to be on 633 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 5: the screen. 634 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 4: And the fact that Amazon was like yes, and the 635 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: fact that Tyler was like yes, that was like, hey girl, 636 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 4: you're not crazy. So it was just validating all my 637 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 4: dreams that I've come thus far, and I'm like, trust yourself. 638 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 4: It just made me trust myself even more. 639 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: I love that. Wait, we both just did the same 640 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: thing in it. Yeah, so much because you really touched 641 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: our hearts. Yeah, thank you, thank you. 642 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: That was so vulnerable to share because I think everybody 643 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: in their own way is looking for that, Like we 644 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: all have this inner voice that we're just looking for confirmation. 645 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: On confirmation and confirmation, I feel like sometimes it creates confidence, 646 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 4: like it just that's how you get more and more 647 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 4: confident you know, you're. 648 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 6: Like, that's a bar, thank thank you, But yeah, no 649 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 6: confirmation does I feel like create more confidence because even 650 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 6: if it's small bits of confirmation, it's just it builds. 651 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 5: It builds and builds and builds. 652 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: And you're like, Okay, everybody just wants to know that 653 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 4: they're not insane. 654 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 5: Some of my ideas work, some of them don't. 655 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 4: But I know that in this field, like I'm not insane, 656 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 4: Like my ideas are good. 657 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. It's a sense of belonging to like I 658 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: belong here, I belong here. 659 00:30:59,520 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 5: I agree. 660 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Tika, this has been such a meaningful interview, and 661 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: so I have a really dumb question for you. 662 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 5: I love this. I love I love dumb questions. I 663 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 5: have them all the time. 664 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 3: Thank you for that. Happy too. 665 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: Okay, you have over two million Instagram followers that are 666 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: so obsessed with your life, and I want to know 667 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: something that you are obsessed with right now, whether it's 668 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,239 Speaker 2: like a book, a hobby, a wellness trend, something that 669 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: like you haven't been posting online that you're so into 670 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: right now. 671 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: Okay. 672 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 4: I told myself I need to get more hobbies in 673 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 4: my life because my husband and my daughter they have a. 674 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 5: Like a list of hobbies. They're like, oh, we're going 675 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 5: to go. 676 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 4: Paddleboard in the ocean and surf and more time, like 677 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 4: all the and I'm like they're like, what do you 678 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 4: love to do? Mom? 679 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 5: And I'm like work. 680 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 3: I knew you were going to say that. 681 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 4: I'm like create. They're like, no, nothing to do with work. 682 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 4: And so I was like, I'm going to figure something out. 683 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 4: I just started needle point. Wait, I am like obsessed. 684 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 4: So on Sunday, I finally opened this needle point kit 685 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 4: that I've had for like over a year. I gave 686 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 4: myself the the space to be like, I'm just gonna 687 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 4: like chill here and. 688 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 5: Do needle point. I was like, I'm gonna just try. 689 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 4: I went on YouTube. I'm like, wait, how do I 690 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: do this? This this one stitch or whatever? Learned it 691 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 4: on YouTube and then I could not stop. I was 692 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 4: sitting there for hours just doing this heart needle point 693 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 4: thing that I literally took a picture of. 694 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: You have a hobby. 695 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: Congratulations and your mom approves of it. 696 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: You got validation from your mom. 697 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 4: Oh my gods. 698 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: See that is amazing. 699 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm theme here see no, I know, it's so amazing. 700 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 4: I was proud of myself and when I showed my 701 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: husband and my daughter, they're like. 702 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 5: Wow, mom, you're still doing that. 703 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, well, my daughter said, mom, my husband 704 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 4: doesn't call me mom. 705 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 5: That would be that would be all. 706 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: Well question, it'd be a choice. 707 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: Tika, thank you so much for joining us on the 708 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: bright side. This is like such a corny thing to say. 709 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: What you really put the bright in it. You're such 710 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: a bright light. 711 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: Thank you for this conversation. Tica. 712 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Simone, Thank you, Danielle again, I 713 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 4: appreciate it. 714 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Tica, so awesome. 715 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 5: Thank you. 716 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: Tica Sumpter is an actor, producer, and author. Sonic the 717 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: Hedgehog three is available on Digital Now, and season two 718 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: of her podcast, Adventures of Curiosity Cove is available wherever 719 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. Her new children's book I Got 720 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: It from My Mama is out in April. 721 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 3: That's it for today's show. 722 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: Tomorrow, we're joined by award winning entrepreneur, executive producer, writer 723 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: and founder, doctor Nikola Mitchell. She's here to talk all 724 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: about her incredible nonprofit Girls Who Brunch Tour, plus what 725 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: it means to be a Laurel Paris. 726 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 3: Women of Worth Honore. 727 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: Join the conversation using hashtag the bright Side. 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