WEBVTT - The Whiplash/The Griping

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm Strong and Jack Katie and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 3>All of this comes as it is really unclear where

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<v Speaker 3>diplomatic efforts to end this war now stand. Secretary of

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<v Speaker 3>State Marco Rubio told lawmakers yesterday that a deal quote

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<v Speaker 3>could happen today, it could happen tomorrow, it could happen

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<v Speaker 3>next week, but he cautioned there's no guarantee that it

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<v Speaker 3>would be acceptable to the Senate or the American people.

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<v Speaker 3>And the President was asked in an interview about the

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<v Speaker 3>weeks of whiplash and why he seems to be changing

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<v Speaker 3>his stance on Iran so often, Trump saying, quote, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just the way I am.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a funny thing to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Jay was on the Miranda Divine podcast. We're going

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<v Speaker 4>to play you a couple of clips of the heck

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<v Speaker 4>up in a couple of minutes, including a minute or

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<v Speaker 4>so including being asked about his alleged obscenity laced.

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<v Speaker 2>Call with bb Net Yahoo. But she said, you're crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd be in jail if it wasn't for Mela, is

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<v Speaker 4>there a rift between the two sides.

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<v Speaker 5>And again pointing out that each president, like four or

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<v Speaker 5>five presidents have had that relationship with BB Netanyahu and

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<v Speaker 5>had that sort of conversation with him, so it's not unique.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah at times.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>The US and Iran exchanged heavy fire overnight after the

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<v Speaker 4>US struck an empty oil tanker that it said was

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<v Speaker 4>attempting to breach the blockade. That set off a string

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<v Speaker 4>of attacks by both sides, with their on firing ballistic

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<v Speaker 4>missiles at US bases and later launching drones that struck

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<v Speaker 4>Kuwait's airport, leaving one person dead and temporarily suspending air traffic.

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<v Speaker 4>But despite the heavy fire, US Central Command said Tuesday

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<v Speaker 4>night that the tenuous ceasefire.

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<v Speaker 2>Was still ongoing.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, the fact that these other countries have held back

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<v Speaker 5>is really something. Iraq has been hit. So seven, eight,

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<v Speaker 5>nine different countries have been hit by Iranian rockets and

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<v Speaker 5>missiles and have mostly held back. Yeah, yeah, mostly, although

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<v Speaker 5>we are finding out the EUA has been much more

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<v Speaker 5>active than was previously understood. Uh So that's what happened

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<v Speaker 5>to most recently. Let's let's get to Miranda, Divine and

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<v Speaker 5>Trump and see what they had to say.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Axios reported that you had a phone call with BB Netanya,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the Prime Minister of Israel, in which you were

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<v Speaker 1>angry with him. You said, are you effing crazy? What

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<v Speaker 1>are you efing doing? I helped you stay out of jail.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true? Did you speak to him in those tides?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I always say angry? I was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>perturbed at his uh constantly fighting with Lebanon.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, at some point, as would be be, we

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<v Speaker 6>got to step this, we gotta stap it. But I

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<v Speaker 6>have a very good relationship with and well done well together.

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<v Speaker 6>He always says we could never have done it, but

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<v Speaker 6>everybody knows that we could have never done it without

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<v Speaker 6>the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>But we've I've worked very well together. I like bab

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm a little troubled by that whole You're constantly

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<v Speaker 4>fighting with Lebanon.

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<v Speaker 2>He's fighting with Hespelaea, which is.

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<v Speaker 4>An armed political party that Lebanon would pay whatever it

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<v Speaker 4>took to get rid of if they possibly could. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a long and complex story, but yeah, that was a

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<v Speaker 4>little troubling. I don't know if he truly misunderstood it,

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<v Speaker 4>or if he was just kind of shorthanding it next.

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<v Speaker 1>Clip, And are your tactics where you say something and

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<v Speaker 1>then change it and then do a piece deal and

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<v Speaker 1>then break the seas.

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<v Speaker 2>Fire or whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that all about trying to keep the Iranians off balance?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sort of messaging to them? No, because people

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<v Speaker 1>at home sometimes I think you're anxious and confused.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good.

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<v Speaker 6>It's good if they're confused and the Iranians are confused.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think the people at home are paying attention,

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<v Speaker 5>is what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm looking up at TV NBC News leading the hour

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<v Speaker 5>with it, but I don't think the average person is

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<v Speaker 5>thinking much more than oh, it's still going on, gas

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<v Speaker 5>is still expensive the end.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, scanning my memory banks to think about when anybody's

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<v Speaker 4>brought it up to me in real life recently, I

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<v Speaker 4>can't come up with anything well, and it still ends

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<v Speaker 4>up being evening newscasts often like the fourth story after

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<v Speaker 4>weather and a video of a guy getting knocked down

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<v Speaker 4>by a deer, and you know whatever else they I

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<v Speaker 4>do enjoy a good deer knocking down, and so let's

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<v Speaker 4>move on to other fair since perhaps this is not

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<v Speaker 4>fair that people care about it anyway, I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to mention this.

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<v Speaker 5>I watched a little Marco Rubio testifying before Congress yesterday,

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<v Speaker 5>and they lean a lot on that whole we've destroyed

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<v Speaker 5>the Iranian navy. You're overlooking that their navy is at

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<v Speaker 5>the bottom of the sea. Ran no longer has a navy.

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<v Speaker 5>And I didn't even think of it until some other

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<v Speaker 5>pundit I like pointed it out. Whoever talked about the

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<v Speaker 5>Iranian navy or was worried about the Iranian navy? How

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<v Speaker 5>big a role in world politics was the Iranian navy.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh So, it's a little bit of a headfake to

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<v Speaker 5>me to keep bragging about we've sunked their navy.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, they've.

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<v Speaker 4>Got those those fast boats, those harassing boats.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, issue, you didn't launch this saying we've got

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<v Speaker 5>to do something about the Iranian navy and nobody's willing

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<v Speaker 5>to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right right. Ah, So what you're about to hear

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<v Speaker 4>is restraint. There's a lot of talk that Marco clearly

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<v Speaker 4>now has the edge for twenty twenty eight. I hope

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<v Speaker 4>so that Trump and company have had to arrange advents

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<v Speaker 4>in easy with the social media. Stop doing that. They're

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<v Speaker 4>getting a little annoyed with them. That's all I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to say. I'm going to move on. I find this

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<v Speaker 4>so interesting. Ultra processed food is the new sitting, which

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<v Speaker 4>was the new smoking apparently, or sitting around and eating

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<v Speaker 4>ultra processed food is certainly the new like smoking two

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<v Speaker 4>cigarettes at once of health.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a new.

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<v Speaker 5>Study sitting and smoking, yes, while eating a bag of doritos. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>you're as good as dead, practically committing suicide, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>just throw yourself off a cliff and save the rest

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<v Speaker 5>of us the trouble. So I approach these studies with caution.

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<v Speaker 4>Because in some questions of health, it's difficult to tease

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<v Speaker 4>out one variable. As if you paid attention in high

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<v Speaker 4>school science class, you know that's the scientific method. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't introduce three variables and then guess at which one

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<v Speaker 4>did want. And if you are a coke snorton, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>motorcycle racer who eats ultra processed foods, and those people

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<v Speaker 4>tend to die sooner, you can't tell me. Hip it's

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<v Speaker 4>the ultra process foods, if you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'll just get to the study. Eating a diet

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<v Speaker 4>high in ultra processed foods is associated with a serious

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<v Speaker 4>increased risk of dementia, according to new research, adding to

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<v Speaker 4>the growing list of health problems linked to such packaged

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<v Speaker 4>foods as packaged cookies, hot dogs, and chips, and I

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<v Speaker 4>also mentioned bacon.

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<v Speaker 2>I love hot dogs.

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<v Speaker 5>Bacon, Yes, bacon, aw man, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Can say bacon as many times as you like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a the least buddy.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't put bacon in the same category normally. In

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<v Speaker 5>my mind, is like a bag of Doritos ultra processed food.

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<v Speaker 4>The study involved more than fifty three hundred US adults

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<v Speaker 4>age fifty and older followed them for almost nine years

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<v Speaker 4>on average.

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<v Speaker 2>The researchers from.

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<v Speaker 4>The HARVD tv Chan School of Public Health and other

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<v Speaker 4>institutions aimed a home in on the impact of ultra

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<v Speaker 4>processed foods by accounting for range of other factors that

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<v Speaker 4>affect health, including education, income, smoking, physical activity, and alcohol use,

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<v Speaker 4>et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>These results to add to a body of scientific evidence

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<v Speaker 4>linking diets high in ultra processed foods to health problems

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<v Speaker 4>including obesity, cardiovascular disease, type two diabetes.

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<v Speaker 2>And more.

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<v Speaker 5>How about the bacon like they that they have at

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<v Speaker 5>the butcher counter? You know, it's not in the plastic packaging.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that different or is that the same thing? You know,

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<v Speaker 5>they don't really drill down into bacon.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, it's like smoked and cured and salted and

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<v Speaker 4>whatever else. I've got to admit, I think of that

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<v Speaker 4>very differently as you're saying that, say a pack of chips,

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<v Speaker 4>oreos horrendous pizza puff thingy ye that you heat.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's all lists matter.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to eat any I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 5>eat one stick less of bacon the rest of my

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<v Speaker 5>life because of this.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, I even don't discuss it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you'll forget you made that vow so you might

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<v Speaker 4>stop eating bacon, So who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows because of my dementia from eating processed food exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's kind of self correcting in a bizarre and

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<v Speaker 4>tragic way.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay.

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<v Speaker 4>They think one likely explanation for the link between ultra

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<v Speaker 4>processed foods and dementia is that diets high income are

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<v Speaker 4>associated with obesity, type two diabetes, and cardiovascular disease, and

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<v Speaker 4>those illnesses raise the risk of dementia.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, you could argue that I mean, because look,

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<v Speaker 4>don't we all have our principles in general, but we

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<v Speaker 4>have cheats.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, and your cheat is bacon.

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<v Speaker 4>Fine, you're not gonna guzzle down pizza puffs, but by God,

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<v Speaker 4>when you have an eggs, you're gonna have a little bacon.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got a number of things we need to get

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<v Speaker 5>dang dang interesting uh in the last twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 5>But Scott Pelly getting fired from sixty minutes just pompous

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<v Speaker 5>ass hat. So anything bad happening in his life makes

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<v Speaker 5>me somewhat happier.

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<v Speaker 4>Because that sort of problem. Okay, I'll say it out loud.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Petty right here, I'm working with laz.

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<v Speaker 2>This is terrible. What's that? What's that? Ready's petty? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>terrible petty. Yes, here's petty. You're Tom Petty. Okay, here's

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<v Speaker 2>the pettiest petty. That's petty. Since Tom Petty, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same world. Terrible. Yeah, say I'm fired.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, you're fired, Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody likes you. You want me to go more on

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<v Speaker 2>that and other stuff all the way. Stay here.

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<v Speaker 5>It's disappointing to find out that Scott Pelly if sixty

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<v Speaker 5>Minutes has been fired. Oh I'm sorry, I'm all wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't disappointing. I was very happy about it because

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<v Speaker 5>I found him insufferable. It's funny that the last interview

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<v Speaker 5>that aired with Scott Pelley on sixty Minutes was the

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<v Speaker 5>one he did with Ben Sass, Remember, and I liked

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<v Speaker 5>that topic of stuff. Ben Sas said, but it came

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<v Speaker 5>in the next morning on Monday and said, that was

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<v Speaker 5>the most pompous Scott Pelly there's ever been.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that one was.

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<v Speaker 5>That was him taking it to like an snl skit

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<v Speaker 5>level of leaned back in his chair and that look

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<v Speaker 5>on his face of smugness and wisdom and the glasses

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<v Speaker 5>in his teeth. I mean, he is just such an

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<v Speaker 5>act in his slow voice. But that matters to you,

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't it. Mister Sas just oh God, nobody's ever been

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<v Speaker 5>more pleased with themselves than Scott Pelly. And apparently he

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<v Speaker 5>thought he could big time the new boss at sixty

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<v Speaker 5>Minutes when they had that big meeting the other day

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<v Speaker 5>and lecture him when he walked in the room and

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<v Speaker 5>the boss said, all right, you're not gonna embarrass me

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<v Speaker 5>in front of these people. It ain't gonna work. Enjoy

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<v Speaker 5>the Bagels got up and left and then fired him.

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty four hours later.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, As the new executive producer was introducing himself and

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<v Speaker 4>launching into look, I have so much respect for the

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<v Speaker 4>show and all of you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be collaborative. I want your voices,

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Pelly said, ah, I must interrupt.

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<v Speaker 4>You're punk who's never done anything, and your boss has

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<v Speaker 4>no qualifications either, and she's trying to murder.

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<v Speaker 2>The show, and I hate all of you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, in spite of that, Bilton Nick Bilton reached out

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<v Speaker 4>to Pelly and said, look, we got to get together

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<v Speaker 4>and talk. And Pelly essentially said to me, I have

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<v Speaker 4>nothing to say to you, and so they sk candmy, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Poop candom well immediately.

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<v Speaker 5>And what was the line he had in the meeting

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<v Speaker 5>to the guy, I'm curious as to why you would

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<v Speaker 5>come somewhere nobody wants you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, f you, I would think, is the new boss.

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<v Speaker 5>Pelly was making five million dollars a year just for

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<v Speaker 5>the sixty minutes program. Back when he used to be

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<v Speaker 5>the anchor, he was ten to fifteen million dollars a

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<v Speaker 5>year is rumored, so he's made a lot of money

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<v Speaker 5>in his life, so it could be just a in

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<v Speaker 5>his defense, I guess, and I find him an an

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<v Speaker 5>annoying human being, even though I'm a big sixty minutes fan.

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<v Speaker 5>It could have been a just you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not changing the way I do things, and if

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<v Speaker 5>you think I am, you're wrong. And I got plenty

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<v Speaker 5>of money. And he probably thinks other networks are just

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<v Speaker 5>looking to grab him as quick as they can because

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<v Speaker 5>he thinks the Scott Pelly brand is ratings gold.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's about to find out different on that,

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<v Speaker 2>right right.

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<v Speaker 4>In his subsequent note to Pelly built and called Pelly's

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<v Speaker 4>behavior at Monday's meeting a performative display of hostility, which

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<v Speaker 4>I think is a good line. And one of the

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<v Speaker 4>I think was Sharon ALFONSI, you also got canned, said

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<v Speaker 4>something absolutely hilarious, although it really does demonstrate and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I try to take, you know, not an attack attack,

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<v Speaker 4>attacked posture all the time, because I've come to realize

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<v Speaker 4>that bubbled people don't know that they're bubbled, and they

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<v Speaker 4>have a completely different reality and you can't attack them

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<v Speaker 4>out of it. You've got to help them understand how

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<v Speaker 4>bubbled they are. But Sharon Alfonsi said something about how

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<v Speaker 4>Barry Weiss is now interject political point of view into

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<v Speaker 4>their reporting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, And I thought, good lord, wow, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Are in the middle of the forest and can't see

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<v Speaker 4>the trees or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 5>It has been in my lifetime diminishing because all the media,

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<v Speaker 5>entire media landscape has been changing rapidly as we all know.

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<v Speaker 5>But it has been in my lifetime probably the most

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<v Speaker 5>important news outlet in the world. I mean, it has

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<v Speaker 5>broken so many stories or been the conversation piece of

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<v Speaker 5>so many big stories the next Monday morning for all

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<v Speaker 5>of our politics, like my whole adult life. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they went out of their way to try to ruin it. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 5>I still thought it was really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Often.

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<v Speaker 5>Mark Alpern writing, and Mark Alpern has really been in

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<v Speaker 5>the news business because his dad was big in government

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<v Speaker 5>and he's been in the news business his whole life.

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<v Speaker 5>He wrote, it's impossible to overstate the arrogance of those

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<v Speaker 5>who have worked for sixty minutes over the years, even

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<v Speaker 5>as the program's bias and reduced quality have been on

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<v Speaker 5>vivid display. He also said there are a lot more

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<v Speaker 5>beats to play out on this story, including how the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of the program staff decides to play things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everybody, I suppose could rebold right right sure.

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<v Speaker 4>A final note on this, Nick Bilton's dismissal letter to

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<v Speaker 4>Scott Pelly was remarkably gentlemanly and emphasized again that he says,

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<v Speaker 4>I've devoted my career to While I'm new to Sixty Minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>I've devoted my career to investigative journalism and storytelling. I

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<v Speaker 4>started this job excited to collaborate and benefit from the

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<v Speaker 4>wisdom and experience of the Sixty Minutes veterans, with you

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<v Speaker 4>among them. For that reason, one of the first things

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<v Speaker 4>I did in my new role was to call you

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<v Speaker 4>and invite you to dinner. He got the middle finger

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<v Speaker 4>every single time they hold the meeting. Yesterday, you hijacked

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<v Speaker 4>my first meeting with staff to disparage me, my qualifications,

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<v Speaker 4>and my intentions with remarkable incivility and contempt. I welcome

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<v Speaker 4>a diversity viewpoints and respectful debate among the team, but

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<v Speaker 4>this was nothing of the sort. Yesterday's performative display of

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<v Speaker 4>hostility and acted in front of the staff instead of

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<v Speaker 4>in a civil private conversation, demonstrating that you have no

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<v Speaker 4>interest in contributing to the future success of the show,

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<v Speaker 4>et cetera, et cetera. Uh, and then he says, I

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<v Speaker 4>therefore write on behalf of CBS News Ink to inform

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<v Speaker 4>you that your employment with CBS is terminated for cause,

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<v Speaker 4>effective immediately and closed as your formal termination letter.

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<v Speaker 5>Why wouldn't Scott Pelly, as the biggest deal at the

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<v Speaker 5>biggest news program left in television news, why wouldn't he

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<v Speaker 5>let it play out, like get to a point of

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<v Speaker 5>tension on some story where he thinks, no, I think

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<v Speaker 5>this should be left in, and Barry Weiss or whoever's

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<v Speaker 5>you know under her says, I think it should be

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<v Speaker 5>taken out and then maybe make a stand over that

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<v Speaker 5>that you could support, perhaps publicly say they didn't want

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<v Speaker 5>me to tell you this. Why wouldn't you do that

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<v Speaker 5>as opposed to do the whole big time him at

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<v Speaker 5>the meaning thing. Well, he says, you're a day.

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<v Speaker 4>The changes are entirely to curry favor with the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're throwing sixty minutes away. Yeah, man, evidence instructed

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<v Speaker 4>me to inject falsehoods and bias into a politically sensitive story.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us some example of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Scott Pelly, Well, he considers any perspective to the right

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<v Speaker 4>of Bernie Sanders to be injecting politics.

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<v Speaker 5>I still think it'd be to his benefit to give specifics.

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<v Speaker 2>To Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 7>The New York Knicks are going to the NBA Finals

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<v Speaker 7>for the first time in twenty seven years, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think I can speak for the whole city when I

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<v Speaker 7>say it's so gratifying to finally see something go well

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<v Speaker 7>for Timothy Shalloman.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, speaking of Witch, they say this is going to

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<v Speaker 5>be the most expensive ticket in New York history. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>of course there's always adjusting for inflation, but it might

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<v Speaker 5>be just true, flat out. If there's a Game six,

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<v Speaker 5>which would be at home in New York, they expect

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<v Speaker 5>those seats, the Tim Schalloway seats to be a seven

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<v Speaker 5>figures Wait a minute, a million, No, oh, million dollars

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<v Speaker 5>at least for a seat, even if you're even if

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<v Speaker 5>you're Tim shallow May, John Stewart, Chris rock Rich do

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<v Speaker 5>you drop a million dollars for a Game six, sixth

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<v Speaker 5>next seat?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Elon musk rich Well, and I would.

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<v Speaker 5>I've said this many times over the years. I would

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<v Speaker 5>love to know how that whole thing works. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if they if that's the way that works anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>or if the Knick's organization, or the or the network,

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<v Speaker 5>or there's all kinds of people that benefit from those

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<v Speaker 5>celebrities being there rather than anonymous businessmen who might be

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<v Speaker 5>as rich as Timothy shallow May but you've never heard

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<v Speaker 5>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want those guys in the front row. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>some guy in shipping.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that doesn't make you more money or or make

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<v Speaker 5>it more exciting anyways. Watching some New York media this morning,

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<v Speaker 5>but you know media I was watching this morning because

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<v Speaker 5>it's all practically all New York, uh, and them talking

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<v Speaker 5>about how it's the most sports excitement in that city

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<v Speaker 5>in many decades, partially because he got Yankees, man, you

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<v Speaker 5>got Giants, Jets. There's only one really NBA basketball team

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<v Speaker 5>that anybody pays attention to, and that the city's just

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<v Speaker 5>on fire for this whole thing. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be highly annoying. And I just can't wait for Wendy

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<v Speaker 5>to go in there and drag them around the court

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<v Speaker 5>in Madison Square Garden.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm hoping happens.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, very vengeful again, Petty again, Michael, You notice that

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<v Speaker 4>a theme is emerging. Other people's pain is Jack's joy, schadenfreude,

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<v Speaker 4>New York Media's pain.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, absolutely my joy. Million dollars for a seat, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm an NHL guy. I've been watching the Stanley Club

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<v Speaker 4>Cup playoffs, including the finals, in which my beloved Carolina

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<v Speaker 4>Hurricanes I've been like the biggest fan of the world

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<v Speaker 4>for maybe a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Lost to the Las Vegas Golden Knights.

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<v Speaker 4>Vegas what hockey Golden Knights, their logos and embarrassment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't know either one of those teams existed. I've

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<v Speaker 5>heard the informed that the the Hurricane go ahead. I've

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<v Speaker 5>heard of the Canadian teams. I've heard of all these

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<v Speaker 5>American teams. Have you heard of the Chicago Blackhawks. I

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<v Speaker 5>haven't heard of the league for some time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Speaking of which, I heard on the telecast last

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<v Speaker 4>night that the the Carolina Hurricanes the last one the

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<v Speaker 4>Stanley Cup in two thousand and six, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, there's been a Carolina hockey team for.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty I couldn't have told you that, And they won

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<v Speaker 2>the Stanley cup. Well, it's insane getting old anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So late in the show, we had the breaking

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<v Speaker 5>news that Donald Trump signed an executive order around ai

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<v Speaker 5>an a O, around a an EO, around ao AI.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do it. Why do you even try?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know why I try. It's a test of

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<v Speaker 5>my brain and I fail every single time. Anyway, executive

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<v Speaker 5>order about artifical.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to take that test where you got banana,

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<v Speaker 4>elephant train, school bus train, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I passed it. I scored. They never said I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure I would pass it.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's it's a much watered down version of something

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<v Speaker 5>they had proposed like six eight weeks ago, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>still the federal gulp saying yeah, you do some big

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<v Speaker 5>advancement in your whole AI thing. You got to run

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<v Speaker 5>it by us first, and we take a look at

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<v Speaker 5>it and see if we think it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is one very very vague.

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<v Speaker 5>In two, who's gonna decide who in the federal government

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<v Speaker 5>is gonna look at what Sam Altman, Elon musk Emodi

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<v Speaker 5>or or you know those people came up with and

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<v Speaker 5>say I like it, good job, or no, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>tweak this over here?

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<v Speaker 2>And then it will be ex exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's almost hilarious, and it's it's statutorily it's

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<v Speaker 4>just what are you even?

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<v Speaker 2>What is this?

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<v Speaker 4>What are you doing? So you got to run new

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<v Speaker 4>AI systems past the White House? That's not a thing.

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<v Speaker 5>As the kids say, well, right, and as as I

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<v Speaker 5>said yesterday, there's like eight people in the world that

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<v Speaker 5>understand how this stuff works, and they ain't in the

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<v Speaker 5>federal government.

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<v Speaker 2>And they only kind of understand it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and they're kind of guessing, not kind of very

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<v Speaker 5>much guessing themselves. So who knows where that leads?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought.

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<v Speaker 5>Neil Ferguson's piece out today AI is the most dangerous

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<v Speaker 5>arms race in history is pretty interesting. The unfolding history

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<v Speaker 5>of artificial intelligence has now arrived at what may be

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<v Speaker 5>its most dangerous moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Writes mister Ferguson, the historian. We may be charming Scottish accent.

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<v Speaker 5>We may be hurtling toward the most dangerous arms race

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<v Speaker 5>in history, and we're doing so when the leadership of

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<v Speaker 5>the competitors in this race is, to say the least,

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<v Speaker 5>of mixed quality. The chief executives of the most important

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<v Speaker 5>companies include at least one with a record of duplicity.

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<v Speaker 5>Is he talking about Altman? Probably scam Altman and at

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<v Speaker 5>least two egomaniacs.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be at least two.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's more than that, but that's probably Elon

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<v Speaker 5>And are you emotive?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably? I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 5>You could be one of the giants of AI without

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<v Speaker 5>being an egomaniac. So the Google guy bitch Eye, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, or or Zuckerberg, like I said, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>sure you could be one of these people without being

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<v Speaker 5>an egomaniac. So I don't see that as much of

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<v Speaker 5>a slam. Meanwhile, the President of the United States is

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<v Speaker 5>a former real estate developer and really reality TV star,

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<v Speaker 5>roughly half of whose public utterances are mere bluffs. And

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<v Speaker 5>the leader of the People's Republic of China is a

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<v Speaker 5>Marxist Leninist who aspires to eclipse Mau as a dictator.

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<v Speaker 5>That is all true, and usually I don't like the

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<v Speaker 5>shots at Trump for being a reality TV star or whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>but he's no expert in AI, and practically nobody is,

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<v Speaker 5>as I've already said, So.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, the most dangerous arms race in human history.

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<v Speaker 4>As we're chatting about last hour it's partly because it's

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<v Speaker 4>such a squishy, ever changing thing to get your arms around.

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<v Speaker 4>People could comprehend a terrible new bomb that would cause

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<v Speaker 4>more destruction than any previous bomb has. You can come

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<v Speaker 4>to that, But we don't even know what it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be, what it will control, as you pointed out,

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<v Speaker 4>how many people it will put out of work, what

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<v Speaker 4>sort of political unrest that will cause, what sort of

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<v Speaker 4>economic shocks around the globe.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody even knows what it.

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<v Speaker 5>Is, right, and there's no agreement among the smartest people.

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 5>I watch all the YouTube videos and listen to the

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<v Speaker 5>podcasts and read this stuff written by the smartest people

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<v Speaker 5>about this stuff in the world, and they are not

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<v Speaker 5>in agreement at all as to when this is happening

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<v Speaker 5>or how big a deal it is. But I can

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<v Speaker 5>lay out what worst case scenario is that AI begins

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<v Speaker 5>to learn on its own and decides to take over

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<v Speaker 5>the world or a country. Now, if you believe that

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<v Speaker 5>the Communist Chinese Party can take over a country which

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<v Speaker 5>it has and run a surveillance state to keep people

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<v Speaker 5>in line, it's not a leap to think that an

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<v Speaker 5>AI could do that, Right, Why could the Chinese Communist

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<v Speaker 5>Party run by you know, a fairly small number of

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<v Speaker 5>people not as smart as AI. Why could they take

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<v Speaker 5>over a whole country and run it and keep people

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<v Speaker 5>in line and keep power but AI couldn't. There's no

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<v Speaker 5>reason to think that, or certainly the one obvious inevitable

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<v Speaker 5>is that people will use AI to accomplish the same thing,

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<v Speaker 5>and both are horrifying outcomes. Interestingly enough, New York Times

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<v Speaker 5>had a story the other day about how China is

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<v Speaker 5>now using AI to predict who might be a threat

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<v Speaker 5>to the Communist Party in the future.

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<v Speaker 4>They can now recognize the kernels of unrevolutionary thought well

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<v Speaker 4>among young people or young professionals, and think, all right,

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 4>put him on the list, which he said, He said

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<v Speaker 4>it made a wise ass comment about whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, which might be accurate or might not be accurate

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<v Speaker 5>at all, But it doesn't matter to them. They're still

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<v Speaker 5>going to drag you out of your home and put

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<v Speaker 5>you in a prison.

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<v Speaker 4>No, there's no cost to dragging you out of your

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<v Speaker 4>home and been killing you or putting you in a prison,

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<v Speaker 4>because they've got complete control.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the experts, and again, they're all guessing.

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<v Speaker 5>Every single one of them from elon down is absolutely guessing.

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<v Speaker 2>On this stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>But some of the guessing by the experts is that

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<v Speaker 5>China is way more afraid of this than we are.

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<v Speaker 5>That if you're a totalitarian state, you're more feel more

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<v Speaker 5>threatened by AI somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking your place than an open democracy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, my final thought on this, then i'll give you

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 4>the last word, is that what Bill O'Reilly used to say, Yep,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give you the.

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<v Speaker 2>Last word right before body language segment.

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<v Speaker 4>My last word is a reminder that I read you

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of a note from Alert listener Paolo yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>who said, look, all this stuff is true, but there's

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<v Speaker 4>no opting out correct. Trying to restrict the growth of

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 4>human knowledge and technology through history is it's laughable.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope this doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 5>And depending on who you ask, it's like a twenty

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<v Speaker 5>percent chance of it happening or a seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 5>chance of happening, which either one of those is way

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<v Speaker 5>too high that in the next couple of years, the

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<v Speaker 5>world wakes up one day and realizes AI is doing

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<v Speaker 5>its own thing now, and we're just gonna have to

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<v Speaker 5>sit back and watch because we have no ability to

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<v Speaker 5>stop it or control it in any way.

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 2>It is it is hijacked its own servers. It is gotten.

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 5>It's gotten, It's come up with a way to get

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<v Speaker 5>its own electrical.

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<v Speaker 2>Power as much as it needs.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just doing everything on its own and the world

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<v Speaker 5>is just going to watch and see what it decides

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<v Speaker 5>to do. That is a absolutely on the table as

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<v Speaker 5>a possibility, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Within a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 4>This doesn't count as me violating my last word thing

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<v Speaker 4>because that was really intriguing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's opened up a new area of discussion.

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<v Speaker 4>Will there be towns, counties, states, countries that say that

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<v Speaker 4>finally do what I been begging them to do. They'll

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<v Speaker 4>unplug the Internet. They will go retro techno retro to

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<v Speaker 4>the point that nothing's connected to the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no AI.

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<v Speaker 4>They will become like the semi whatever you know, pre AI,

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<v Speaker 4>however you want to describe it.

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<v Speaker 5>So the only way to out of self defense, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and so the only way to take that over would

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<v Speaker 5>be to actually storm the beaches with robots on boats or.

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<v Speaker 2>Bomb them or something.

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<v Speaker 4>And if and this is the stuff of science fiction,

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I was ambitious and brilliant enough to write

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<v Speaker 4>it because I'm so intrigued by the idea. But if,

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<v Speaker 4>if you know, the United States of wherever declares that, look,

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<v Speaker 4>we're just we're out. We're going to go back to

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<v Speaker 4>the old ways. We're of no threat to AI Antonia. Okay,

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.959
<v Speaker 4>we we we we We're just going to do our

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 4>own thing over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's coexist.

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<v Speaker 4>Would AI say no, that's not compatible with our brilliant

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 4>AI world plan. Can't have dissenters like that. Sorry, we

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 4>got to snow. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's any chance of no, not at all.

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's any.

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<v Speaker 5>Chance of coming up with some sort of arms agreement

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<v Speaker 5>like we did with the Soviet Union, which a lot

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 5>of people didn't think that'd be possible, where we both recognized, look,

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 5>we don't either one of us really want to blow

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 5>up the world. So how about we come up with

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 5>some agreement like you know Reagan and Gorbachev did, limiting

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 5>the number or you know, allowing some communication back and forth,

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 5>something like that, where we and China both said, look,

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<v Speaker 5>you're more afraid of it than we are, and we're

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 5>afraid of it. So let's how about let's agree AI

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<v Speaker 5>is only allowed to work on medical stuff or this

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<v Speaker 5>or that, there's not going to be any just let

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<v Speaker 5>it go out there artificial general intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any chance of coming up with guidelines.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that, Yes, there absolutely is, but it's a little

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<v Speaker 4>more complicated because of the difficulty of verifying compliance.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about people tiptapping.

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<v Speaker 4>Away on a keyboard somewhere that might say yeah, right, right,

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<v Speaker 4>the beast, and then it might be unleashed in ways

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 4>that people don't even recognize for days, weeks, years, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Plus I limited it to the United States and China,

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<v Speaker 5>like the United States and the Soviet Union, which you

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<v Speaker 5>could do it with nuclear weapons, because some super smart

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 5>guy living in rural Alabama was not gonna build a

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<v Speaker 5>nuclear arsenal. But some super smart guy living in Alabama

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<v Speaker 5>could use AI just as much as a Chinese could.

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<v Speaker 5>So right, that is the difference. Okay, I'm back to

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<v Speaker 5>We're Doomed.

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<v Speaker 4>Next segment a follow up believe it or not, on

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<v Speaker 4>the Scott Pelley firing thing, I'm going to rope Thomas

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 4>soel In and Ben's sass also Alabama redistricting, all in

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<v Speaker 4>one delicious stew of enttormation.

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<v Speaker 5>I promised to stop talking about it after one more

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 5>thirty second comment. Go ahead, it's good it's so possible

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<v Speaker 5>that in our lifetimes we're all having the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Of why did we let this happen?

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<v Speaker 5>Around AI? I mean, it's just so up ended the

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<v Speaker 5>world that just like everybody on the planet is saying,

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 5>how in the hell did human beings allow this to happen?

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.479
<v Speaker 4>And then the Joe Keetties of the conversation would say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>there is no stop in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how are we going to stop it? Oh? We

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<v Speaker 2>could have passed regulations? What about China?

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<v Speaker 4>And then I'll go back to skinning the squirrel that

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 4>I successfully speared to eat from a dinner because all

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 4>of the world's financial institutions, all the digital ones have

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 4>been emptied of their cash.

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 5>Just waiting for an AI robot to come anesthetize you and.

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<v Speaker 2>Harvest your organs.

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 4>Trying to catch a cockroach to get a few calories.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, what a tap of a shy? Exactly

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 5>the question what the world will be saying. It's like

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 5>when Hovil yelled up to the sky. The whole world

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<v Speaker 5>will be saying, what a tap of aya shity? All right? More,

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 5>all the ways there.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty tell me to put my phone down

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 2>and stop doom scrolling. You're doom scrolling right now, aren't you?

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 2>And what were you supposed to be doing?

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 5>Anyway?

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Let me guess something productive and you were going to

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<v Speaker 2>do it? To get right to it? What is said?

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<v Speaker 2>You said? Just let me look on my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>There's born And then they turned to two minutes, two minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>turnt to forty forty minutes, turnt to sixty sixty minutes, turn.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, stop, tells? What's out your flow? What's out your flow? Down?

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<v Speaker 2>If you play? And tell you you just want to

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<v Speaker 2>shield so you won't retend your mus that round but

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>you can't. But last of the drying, he went, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a fashion. Second, that's a califight. I right up right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's ours.

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<v Speaker 3>This I was a lot on my life, losing your

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 3>foul past your time to drive?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you work? Don't you want to start? Don't you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go.

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<v Speaker 6>Out to play?

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<v Speaker 2>Bottot do stop down slow? What's outre foul? Puts down?

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<v Speaker 2>Ja fowl dough You got this.

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<v Speaker 5>Latest worldwide numbers out just came out. I heard them

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 5>talking about a non PR, so I looked it up.

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<v Speaker 5>Today gen Z millennials lead the pack and staring at

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 5>their phone. This is mindlessly scrolling. They're not counting the

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:19.760
<v Speaker 5>amount of time you like, are doing something like specific

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 5>mindlessly scrolling four and a half to five hours.

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 2>A day for gen z and millennials, just mining for

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 2>that dopamine hit.

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 5>For just average people, if you add up the hours

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 5>per day and then hours per week, you come up

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<v Speaker 5>with thirty full days per year, thirty full twenty four

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 5>hour days, an entire month of your waking and sleeping

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 5>time just looking at your phone, just scrolling for something

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 5>interesting because you're so bored with your own thoughts, I guess,

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 5>or looking at the sky or your kids, or you're so.

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 4>Addicted to the the next thing might be great. The

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 4>next thing might be great. Dopamine hit. It's all about that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's all about that. We're all crack monkeys in a lab.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'll follow up on the Scott Pelly discussion, which

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<v Speaker 4>demand and get it. Scott Pelly and Sharon el Ponsi's

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<v Speaker 4>griping about how they're now injecting politics into sixty minutes

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<v Speaker 4>is a great example one of several of one of

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite Thomas soilisms, which you pointed out. When people

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<v Speaker 4>get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination

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<v Speaker 4>and they're so bubbled injecting a little centrism or a

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<v Speaker 4>little you know, the other side of the aisle actually

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<v Speaker 4>has a counter argument. Maybe we got to include that.

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<v Speaker 4>Seems like injecting policies. Yeah, that's a truism, that thing

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<v Speaker 4>right there. I don't know if that's what's happening here, though.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they they think they're hitting it down the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they actually think that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, that's it precisely what Thomas Soel meant. When

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<v Speaker 4>you get used to one side or preferential treatment, correcting

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<v Speaker 4>it seems like an outrage because you're used to that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like putting other examples, but no time, it's like putting.

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<v Speaker 5>The porno books in the library and then when we

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<v Speaker 5>try to get them out book banning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Alabama's are redistricting now. They used to be perverting

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<v Speaker 4>the Voting Rights Act to make sure there's a black

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<v Speaker 4>two black districts. We've got to have two black districts.

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<v Speaker 4>Then the Supreme Court said no, we don't. That's not

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<v Speaker 4>the law of the land, but it seems like discrimination.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're only halfway done.

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