1 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome back to another new episode of 2 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: You Need Therapy Podcast. My name is Kat and I 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: am the host. Now, before we get started and I 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: intro our guest for today, I want to give a 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: quick disclaimer as usual, that this podcast does not serve 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: as individual therapy, a substitute for therapy, or a substitute 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: for individual diet, or any kind of mental health or 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: food advice. I'm adding in the food and diet part 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: today because I'm talking to a registered dietitian and that 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: leads me to our guest. Our guest today is Dylan Murphy, 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: and she is a licensed and registered dietitian. She lives 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: in Nashville. She owns Free Method Nutrition, and she is 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: one of my friends. She was one of our first 14 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: guests ever on the podcast when we talked about Diets 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: Don't Work back in nineteen or maybe early early It 16 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: was in either December of twenty nineteen or January. I 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: think it was like our New Year's episode for the 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: first year. Anyway, She's amazing and I had some questions 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: that were sent in from listeners after I did the 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: episode on orthorexia and a whole thirty and I was 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: like I think we should get a dietician to come 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: in and give their perspective. Although you know, she's one 23 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: of my friends, and I feel like I hold myself 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: back less when I'm talking with my friends on the show, 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: So I probably gave more of my opinion professional and 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: personal than I would have if I had a dietician 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: on that I didn't know, which maybe is not the 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: worst thing in the world. But anyway, So Dylan's our guest. 29 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: If you want to learn more about Dylan, you can 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: follow her on Instagram at Dylan Murphy dot r D 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: and you can follow Free Method Nutrition at Free Method 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Nutrition and then she also has her own podcast called 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: The Free Method Podcast. She also recently has been on 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: the Outweigh podcast with Amy Brown, which now lives in 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: her Four Things podcasts. So you can search four Things 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: Amy Brown and maybe type in Outweigh and you might 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: find those episodes as well. So she comes. We talked 38 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: about a lot of stuff. I'm gonna let our conversation 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: do the talking. Just a little disclaimer, we had a 40 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: little bit of a technical difficulty where my internet just 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: like literally stopped working. This is like the inside scoop 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: of a podcasters life. Like, I'm recording from my house today, 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: which I have great internet here, better than my office, 44 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: and I was reading the last question that I had 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: planned for her, and she froze, and I was like, 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, her internet stopped working. That's so frustrating, 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: but it was mine, and we tried to reconnect a 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: couple of times, but it didn't work. And I'm sitting 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: here right now trying to continue to fix my internet, 50 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: and it's very confusing because things say that they're on, 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: but then they also say that they're off at the 52 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: same time. So anyway, I just texted her the question 53 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: and then she sent me her answer, so I read 54 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: the last one. Bummer. I wish that we could have 55 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: actually had that conversation at the end of the podcast, 56 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: because it was a question I was saving. But that's okay, 57 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: because this is one of those things where you roll 58 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: with it and we don't always know what's going to happen, 59 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: and I can be adaptable, and this podcast isn't perfect, 60 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: and internet and technology is hard, and at the same time, 61 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: in the granteme of life, not gonna make a big difference. 62 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoyed the conversation and all of 63 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: the stuff inside of here, and thanks for listening. Here's 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: my conversation with Dylan. All Right, welcome Dylan back to 65 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: the show. How are you doing? Doing great? Glad to 66 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: be back. I feel like I was on one of 67 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: the very first the fourth episode, ye back in the day, 68 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: she's back. This is probably like the two d and 69 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: fourth episode where yeah, we're rolling, it's a beautiful Friday afternoon. 70 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: After we finished this, I'm literally going to be on 71 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: vacation for a week. Uh yeah, I think it's fun. 72 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: We're going to lake. We're just going like two hours 73 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: away to the lake with my family. So this is 74 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: my last wife one other piece of work that to do, 75 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: and then I'll be done. But you're gonna be all 76 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: the listeners little treat while I am off on the 77 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: lake tubing and skiing and having a drink of the day. 78 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Some days that might be water, some days that might 79 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: be a little cocktail I make with whatever I can 80 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: find the pantry. Um. Anyway, I don't know why I'm 81 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: talking about this, but Okay, So Dylan's registered dietitian and 82 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: we had her on the very beginning to talk about 83 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: diets and why they don't work and it was a 84 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: really fun episode, and if you want to listen just 85 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: to see like where we started from, it might be 86 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: interesting just to hear I don't. I have no idea 87 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: what I was doing back then. Um, and I've probably 88 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: I mean professionally, we knew what we were doing. Podcast wise. 89 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: It was like, well, what what goes on? And I 90 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: edited them myself back then, so you know, the quality 91 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: might be different. Any hoosy, I am, how are you 92 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: back on here? Because I have because we have a 93 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: lot of content about eating disorders and disordered eating and 94 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: all of that. I did episode about Orthodoxia and Whole 95 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: thirty recently, and I got some emails about those and 96 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: about like exercise and all that stuff, and some of 97 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: the things I can answer, but I also think it's 98 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: nice to have like a dietitian's perspective about those things. 99 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: So if you haven't listened to the episode titled like 100 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: Orthorexia and Whole thirty, I highly recommend that. That was 101 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: one that I felt very passionate about, and it kind 102 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: of just talks about in deep dives into some of 103 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: these like quote unquote diets or programs or lifestyle changes 104 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: that can be really harmful and damaging. So I did 105 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: episode and then I got this email, and that's where 106 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: I want to start, if that is okay with you, 107 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: as I just want to ask you this question. I'm 108 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: gonna read this email and then kind of get your 109 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: thoughts on it. So this listener, which I keep every 110 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 1: email anonymous, So thank you anonymous listener for this email. 111 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Because you sent this in there's probably other people that 112 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: were wondering this. So it says, Hi, I'm listening to 113 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: the Orthorexia and Whole thirty episode, love all the great 114 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: info as always, and I keep thinking about the seventy 115 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: hard diet. I had never heard of it before, but 116 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: in the past week two people have talked about it 117 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: to me. I'm interested to know your thoughts on it 118 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: from a loyal listener, So should we give a background 119 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: of the seventy five hard before you? I saw something. 120 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: Who was the person that just put I think maybe 121 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: it was the wellful that just put some information out 122 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: about it. I just googled to see because I've worked 123 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: with clients who have done some five hard in their 124 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: hast and I googled to see what all they're like 125 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: rules were of it, and so like it says it's 126 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: like a seventy five day challenge. Rule number one is 127 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: pico dyet and stick to it. So you have to 128 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: do whatever the diet is that you decide, and it 129 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: says no cheats, no alcohol. Then you read ten pages 130 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: of a nonfiction book, drink a gallon of water, take 131 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: a progress picture every day. This one is wild to me. 132 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: Do two for five minute workouts. One has to be outside, 133 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: so it's and then it says if you miss a rule, 134 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: you have to start over. So if you're like ten 135 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: days in you miss something, you start back at day one. 136 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: If you like miss one workout in seventy five days, 137 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: you've to start over. I'll go back to day one. 138 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: So it's like very strict. So it's a very intense program. 139 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: And what I assume, like a lot of things like this, 140 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: is it's put out there as this program that's going 141 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: to help you live your best life and get you 142 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: back on this place where you have more direction and 143 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: you better take care of your health. And it's it's 144 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: touted as this really awesome, exciting jump start to like 145 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: finding the best version of yourself. So that's exciting, right, 146 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: that's really exciting, and like I want that like I 147 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: want to find that and then you read these rules, 148 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: and let's talk about how that can be really harmful 149 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to our mental health, and even like 150 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: from a dietitian's perspective, let's talk about how that can 151 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: be harmful when it comes to working out twice a day, 152 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: no breaks and having strict food rules. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, gosh, 153 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: there's so much wrong with this. And I think, what 154 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: can be so hard? And I've seen this in some 155 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: of the clients I've worked with who have started this 156 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: is um I feel like they did something like the 157 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: seventy five Hard Challenge, thinking, Okay, this is going to 158 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: be like a personal development thing. I'm just gonna like 159 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: better myself. It's a clean slate, and then they don't 160 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: really is like, oh my gosh, but this is gonna 161 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: like really mess up my relationship with food. I'm gonna 162 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: become so obsessed with exercise all and and you're taking 163 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: progress pictures every day, so then you're like every single day, yes, 164 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: every day for seventy five days. So it's making you 165 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: like obsessed with how you look under the guys of 166 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: like this is going to improve your personal healthy and 167 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: mental health all the things, which is like so false. 168 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: One thing that really stands up to me is, I 169 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: mean just what we know with diets, Like diets don't work, 170 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: they aren't sustainable, they don't last. And sure, maybe you 171 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: can keep it up for seventy five days, but then 172 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: what's going to happen on day seventy six? And how 173 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: is your like I said, relationship with food and all 174 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: of that going to be impacted come day seventy six 175 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: Because if we have this big I mean this whole 176 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: challenge or yeah, seventy five heard challenges like very black 177 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: and white of like you have to follow these rules. 178 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: If you don't, you start back at day one. And 179 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: we know that when it comes to like movement, what 180 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: we eat, what we don't eat, all these other aspects 181 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: of our health, Like it's really not black and white, 182 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: like to say you have to work out two times 183 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: a day, one time has to be outside. That doesn't 184 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: give any room for like rest days to allow your 185 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: body to like repair your muscles, to rest, and like 186 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: what if it's raining, do we just work out, which 187 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: I've I've seen plenty of videos people doing part and 188 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, it's snowing, it's raining. Still got to 189 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: do my thing outside. And it's like I'm so dedicated 190 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: to myself that nothing can stop me. And it's like this, 191 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: like this, this idea that's pushed to me very harmful 192 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: because it's like you, it takes away our agency and 193 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: our ability to listen to our bodies. And I feel 194 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: like a lot of what therapists and dieticians will both say, 195 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: especially in the realm of disordering eating and eating disorders, 196 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: is the work is learning how to listen to your 197 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: body again. You were born, and your body was born 198 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: able to like give you cues and tell you what 199 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: it needs and tell you what it doesn't need, and 200 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: and and when our muscles feel a certain way, or 201 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: or we're tired, or or we are hungry, or we 202 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,119 Speaker 1: have a craving like a lot of times those are 203 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: our body's way of communicating with us. Because our leg 204 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: does not speak English, but it has ways to communicate 205 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: with us. And I find it really interesting with the 206 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: pick of diet, it's like you can pick any diet, right, 207 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: so whatever we want, whatever you're uncontrol and and then 208 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: you have to stick with it for seventy five days. 209 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: And what we know about diets is like with any diet, 210 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: there's going to be some kind of restriction. And the 211 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: easiest way to make somebody or to become obsessed with 212 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: the food or a thing or whatever is to tell 213 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: yourself you can't have it. So the easiest way to 214 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: create this like cyclical thinking about some kind of something 215 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to your own way of eating and 216 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: feeding yourself is to tell yourself you can't have something. 217 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: Whether that's I can't have brown rice. I might not 218 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: even like brown rice, but if I'm like I can't 219 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: have it, then it's like it becomes magical. Or if 220 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: it's I can't have brownies or I can't have sugar. 221 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: That's the easiest way to become obsessed with somebody, which 222 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: is going to lead just like we talked about with 223 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: the whole thirty what happens on day seventy Yeah, not good. 224 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: And what I would say to if someone like even 225 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: the person who submitted this question or anyone else listening 226 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: who is you know, maybe had friends who have done 227 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: something like this, is asking yourself like, Okay, what wouldn't 228 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: have motivation for doing this be And I feel like 229 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: a lot of times, and at least from the people 230 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: I've talked to it's all rooted back in like weight loss, 231 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: and so it's like, well, okay, if you're saying, like 232 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to do this for like my personal health, 233 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: personal development, like brain, whatever the reasons may be, that 234 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't be correlated with weight loss, but obviously something like 235 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: this challenge like screams like oh this is gonna help 236 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 1: me lose weight because I'm gonna do this, this and 237 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: this and this, and like that's not gonna sustainable. Again, 238 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna on day seventy six, you're probably still going 239 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: to be terrified of eating whatever the foods were. You 240 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: may feel guilty if you don't work out because you're 241 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,239 Speaker 1: supposed to work out to day two times a day. 242 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: So it just leads to like it doesn't stay within 243 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: those seventy five days, and it's things you don't even 244 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: need me doing in those seventy five days, but it 245 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: also is going to like seep out into so many 246 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: other days where you really aren't listening to like you said, 247 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: I like what you said, Like you don't really need 248 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: to be doing that in those seventy five days either. 249 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: It's like, so then why are we what are we 250 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: proving and what are we trying to like, how is 251 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: this thing going to actually improve my life? And and 252 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: the thing is there are people out there that can 253 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: do this program and then they can move on with 254 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: their lives, and like they might not think twice about it, 255 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: but the majority of people that are going to do 256 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: this program, something is going to linger and it might 257 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: not turn into a full fledged eating disorder. I feel 258 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: like some people think that people like us who were 259 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: talking about this or like they're dramatic, but I'm like, 260 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: even if half of the people that do this it 261 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: leads them to have either disordered eating or just like 262 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: self critical in a way, or just like bad body image, 263 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: even if it leads to half of the people having 264 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: one of those things, it's not worth it. This thing 265 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: is is telling us it's going to help us create 266 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: this better life. And like, one, I don't know, I 267 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: haven't done research on this, so I don't know if 268 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: there is research on this to show, but like what 269 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: is the actual outcome because a lot of the diet 270 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: programs that we have, which a diet is part of this, 271 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: that we have information on is the outcomes are that 272 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: it usually leads to more weight gain and heavier bodies. 273 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: If we're even just talking about weight than people who 274 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: have never died it before. So this thing is telling you, 275 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: it's it's almost so crazy. This is so crazy to me. 276 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: New program after new program, after new program, after new program, 277 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: after a new program, after a new program, after a 278 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: new program, after a new program, that's just another form 279 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: of an old program. But we have so much information 280 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: that says these things don't work, So why do we 281 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: keep creating new programs? What I think is so I mean, 282 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: I think it's because these people who are trying to 283 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: make money off of these diets realize all these people 284 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: out there who want to make more money. You're like, oh, 285 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: if I do something that's kind of like a diet, 286 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: but I say, it's not a diet. I'm gonna make money. 287 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: I even I went to the main page for seventy 288 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: five hard on the guy who created it, Andy, wherever 289 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: you are, I hope you're listening. He says, this is 290 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: not a fitness program. Seventy hard is a transformative mental 291 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: toughness program. Think of this as an iron Man for 292 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: your brain, which is like, not true, because then if 293 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: you keep schooling, you see all these before and after 294 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: pictures of all the wait, people lost. So I'm like, 295 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: you're telling me it's not a fitness program, So why 296 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: aren't we glorifying what it does for our mental health? 297 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: Like I would like to see that, Like how do 298 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: we see how our mental health is improved? And like 299 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: does it because like I don't know that it does, 300 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: But I think what also might be really helpful for 301 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: people who are even contemplating doing this, because I mean, 302 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: you don't have to take our word for it. You 303 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: can do seventy five heart if you want. But this 304 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: is a program that was created by a speaker. This 305 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: guy's a speaker and author, and he has a supplement 306 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: company and he has a podcast. So like this isn't 307 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: that something that like a dietician or a psychologist or 308 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: a therapist or somebody who like is in the realm 309 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: of like health and has a background in that. This 310 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: is just somebody who has a supplement company. Um, this 311 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: probably is helping that company. It's all, like all of 312 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: us is very money based. And I talked about that 313 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: with the when I talked with a deep dive on 314 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: the whole thirty It's like, well, if this was really 315 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: a program that was created to help people that have 316 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: like food sensitivities or a hard relationship with food, or 317 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: or a disorder relationship with food. This program would look 318 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: so different, the marketing would look so different, the words 319 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: that we used would look so different, and it wouldn't 320 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: be as popular. There's no way this Yeah, this thing 321 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: is popularly because it's it's it's so confusing. That's so 322 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: and I don't even know how to say the best way, 323 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: but it drives me nuts because it is this thing 324 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: that we want to market it to a certain audience, 325 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: the masses. We want everybody to do it. But then 326 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: we want to say anytime, you have to have a disclaimer. 327 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: That's like, this isn't a diet. It's like, well, it 328 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: looks like a diet, it feels like a diet. It's 329 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: smell a diet. It's a diet. You just are using 330 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: a mental toughness program. But it's a diet. It's just 331 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: like calling a diet a lifestyle change, like it is 332 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: a diet. And so I wouldn't even be that upset. 333 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: As you can see, I'm getting heated. I wouldn't care 334 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: that much if these things just said we're to a diet, 335 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: we're a new diet program, like because honestly, I don't 336 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: think that diet culture is going away. I think it's here. 337 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: It's here to stay. It is it makes too much money. 338 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: It is something that we are all in some form 339 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: or another. We're all and we end up being parts 340 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: of this, whether it's when it comes to beauty and 341 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: wellness and all of that. Like I'm sucked into parts 342 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: of it too. It's not going away. But if things 343 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: just were honest, like instead of the disclaimer saying, hey, 344 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: this is not a diet disclaimer, this is a diet program. 345 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: So if you have had, or have a history of, 346 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: or don't want to be encouraged to have disordered eating 347 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: patterns or thoughts or whatever, don't do don't do it. 348 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: But if we said that, think of all the people 349 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: who are like I don't want to do a diet, 350 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: but I need something that you're not going to get 351 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: them on your program, So they're gonna lose money. Yes. Oh, 352 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: And what says out to me too, is like parts 353 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: of this like aren't inherently bad in the sense of 354 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: like reading more books, drinking water, moving your body, but 355 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: it's like the extreme that it takes it to where 356 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: it's like you have to do this every day. If 357 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: you don't, you start every day one. And it's like 358 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: I think you said it earlier of like, you know, 359 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of telling people what to do instead of 360 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: letting them be their own agency. Of like, Okay, if 361 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: I want to try and read more nonfiction books, what 362 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 1: makes sense for my lifestyle? Do I want to try 363 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: and read like a chapter day, or like what what 364 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: kind of goal would I want to make? Or if 365 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: I want to drink more water? What would that look 366 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: like for me? If I know I need to move 367 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: my body more or whatever it may be, Like, what 368 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: would that look like for me? Instead of having this 369 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: like generic diet tell you what you need to do 370 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: and not do so, I also think like if you're 371 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: going to something like this because you feel like you 372 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: need to like improve your health, move more, eat better, etcetera, etcetera, 373 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: that's a style like maybe you need to instead spend 374 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: that time and effort working with a dietitian or working 375 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: with someone who actually like knows what they're talking about 376 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: instead of this like random yeah, and I we can 377 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: move on from this eventually. Also thinking about like the 378 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: seventy five day thing, I'm like, this is another reason 379 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: why I think this is like, for a lack of 380 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: a better word, like sucked up, because first of all, 381 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: seventy five days, I don't care. It is a long time. 382 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: That's a long time. And who has seventy five days 383 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: where they don't have something happening in their life? Like something? 384 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like if I if I did this 385 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: in the summer, Okay, what if I went on a vacation, 386 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: Like how am I going to fit in this stuff? 387 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: What if I went on a road trip? Like how 388 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: am I going to fit in this stuff? Like if 389 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: I have a wedding that I want to go to, 390 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: or I'm in a wedding and the day getting ready 391 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: to like how am I going to fit into workouts 392 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: a day? And it's like you must sacrifice and it's 393 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: only seventy five days and you can. It's like okay, 394 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: but you have to make your life so small. I'm like, 395 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: if you have to make your life that small to 396 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: get this promise, you're gonna have a bigger, better life. 397 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: That's like false advertising. Like at the end of our lives, 398 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: we're not going to look back and be like I 399 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: love that seventy five days where I didn't let myself 400 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: do anything, and I was consumed by these things that 401 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: I had, Like, know, you're going to look back and 402 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: be like, my favorite parts of my life were these 403 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: trips that I went on, these times I got to 404 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: spend with my friends and didn't just had to be present. 405 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: They're not going to be filled with the like, oh, 406 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: that to do list that I got done, Like that 407 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: was like no, So I want to Eventually, Yeah, we're 408 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: gonna move on because I have more questions for Dylan. 409 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: But I think maybe you guys might be picking up 410 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: what we're putting down by now I think medically, don't 411 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, And honestly, I, as a human being, 412 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: would never encourage anybody to do this. We can all 413 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: make our own choices, and like I've become bigger and 414 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: advocate for this than ever, Like I want you to 415 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: be empowered to make your own choices. But in that 416 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: and the reason I'm so heated is that I want 417 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: people to see this for what it is and be 418 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: able to make a choice based on that versus on 419 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: the like false advertising. I think you you said it 420 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: well when you said like a lot of these things 421 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: aren't inherently bad, So like, yeah, I want you to 422 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: know that, like all these things individually aren't to be 423 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: the worst ideas in the world, but it's the way 424 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: that their package and the way they're sold to you. 425 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: If you're buying this, I want you to know what 426 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: you're buying and then if you choose to buy it, 427 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: go for it. Like I am not going to tell 428 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: anybody to an extent what to do, but I just 429 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: want to encourage us to be more aware and mindful 430 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: of what we are choosing and why we're choosing it. 431 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: So that leads me to my next question. That leads 432 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: me to my next question, which kind of came from 433 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 1: that episode I did as well, and it maybe kind 434 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: of bleeds into this conversation too. But there's a lot 435 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: of talk in wellness culture around food sensitivities and apparently, 436 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: like it seems like based on TikTok, Instagram, social media, 437 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: we must all have a sensitivity to something like there's 438 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: like that. It just seems like all of a sudden, 439 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: like everybody has these sensitivities at the same time. Do 440 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: we know what that is? So I would like you, 441 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: from your perspective to talk about, like what actually is 442 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: a food sensitivity and what's the difference between a food 443 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: sensitivity and a food allergy, and if it is something 444 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: that we're like thinking about, how do we know if 445 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: that if we have one or the other. Gosh, so 446 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: much there, So I think one food sensitivities are such 447 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: like almost like a fat right now, which seems so strange, 448 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: and I guess I have been a fat for a while. 449 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: But because there's all these you know, like little food 450 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 1: sensitivity tests you could take at home, and it's like, 451 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it reached back to like 452 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: we as just like human beings have this desire to 453 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: be like a part of like a community and like 454 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: to be around other people. And so it's almost like, Okay, 455 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: all these other people like they say like they can't 456 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: eat gluten, so like I guess I can't. Like you 457 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: just kind of like want to be in like the 458 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: corner of a popular crowd, even though like that shouldn't 459 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: be the popular crowd. But with foods of city tests, 460 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: there's so much nuance to them because really they're not 461 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: even like there's certain tests out there where it's more 462 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: so your results will trigger off of like what you've 463 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: eaten recently. So I've had clients who have gotten them 464 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: and have been like, oh my gosh, Like I just 465 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: had avocado two days ago and I was fine, but 466 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: on my test it says like I'm highly sensitive to it. 467 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it's because you had just eaten and 468 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: it was probably still in your digestive system. So what 469 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: I tell all my clients or just people on Instagram 470 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: or whoever may ask me, I'm like one, like, if 471 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: you had a true food allergy, like I promise you 472 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: you would know, Like you would know if, like if 473 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: you have Celiac disease, you would be like running to 474 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: the bathroom because you ate gluten or same thing with 475 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: lactus or whatever it may be. You would know and 476 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: you wouldn't think this. But like so few people, like literally, 477 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: like one person of a population actually has Celiac disease. 478 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: But when we walk into a grocery store, we see 479 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: gluten free stuff everywhere, so you would think it's a 480 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: big everyone has Celiac disease, but it's not. It's not 481 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: common at all. So gosh, I'm I feel like my 482 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: brain can be like a million directions right now, so 483 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out which direction. Well, I think 484 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: you also, I liked how you're saying like it's like 485 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: the popular thing. I think that, like it almost as 486 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: like that opposite reaction of a what's the word. It's 487 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: a p placebo in the sense that like if everybody 488 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: around me isn't eating gluten and they feel better, and 489 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: when I go to the grocery store they have now 490 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: like four aisles of gluten free food, then like it's 491 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: a strong possibility that I might feel better with I 492 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: don't eat gluten. If I think I'm doing this thing 493 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: and I tell myself that I feel better, I can 494 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: trick my mind into thinking that like, oh I feel better, 495 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: Oh I'm less bloated, or I'm whatever. But like, really, 496 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: you look exactly the same and you feel the same. 497 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: It's just this reverse placebo effect, which I know that 498 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: in my disordered eating I went there was plenty of 499 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: times I was like, I don't need gluten. I feel 500 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: better without gluten. I can't have gluten because of this 501 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: thing that I have in this and that, And like, 502 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: to be very honest, I think that I was probably 503 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: more stressed when I wasn't eating because I was such 504 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: a good point. Does this have gluten? Does this have gluten? 505 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I ate that and I felt fine, 506 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: like yes, yes, But even on the note of like 507 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: stress of you know, if you're cutting out a ton 508 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: of foods or your chronic dieting, you're super stressed, like 509 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: you have anxiety, depression, anything under that umbrella, and probably 510 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: many other things that's going to impact how your body 511 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: is digesting food. You're not sleeping while all these things 512 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 1: can impact how your body digest food. And it can 513 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: be so easy to try and pinpoint pinpoint it to oh, Okay, 514 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: if I just cut out gluten, if I just cut 515 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: out X y Z, then that's going to fix everything. 516 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: But it's really not. And there probably are people listening 517 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: who like genuinely do have a sensitivity to gluten or 518 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: talactose or to soy or whatever it may be. But 519 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: just speaking like generally, like a lot of people don't. 520 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: It's more so like stress or you know, are you 521 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: chronic dieting, are you underweight where your body is just 522 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: like not digesting food, while are you giving your body 523 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: enough energy each day in terms of eating enough food, 524 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: because that's going to impact your digestion. And if you 525 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: do think you might have some sort of like true 526 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: food sensitivity, then it would be important to go to 527 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: an expert, which would be like a dietitian or a doctor. 528 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: But I would say that with caution of like depending 529 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: on the doctor, but like go to someone who can 530 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: truly help you with that, because yes, there's people out 531 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: there who have like digestive disorders like ib S or CBO, 532 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: where there's other things where there's certain foods you can't eat. 533 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: But we figure that out by like you figure that 534 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: out by working with a dietitian and doing like a 535 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: super like personalized elimination style out eating plan to figure 536 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: that out. It's not something you just randomly would be like, oh, 537 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stop eating this, but it is such 538 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: a placeba thing I feel like of like, oh okay, 539 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: well they all feel fine. And I think a lot 540 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: of it also rates kind of what we said with 541 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: seventy five hard. The main like, if you really get 542 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: honest with yourself, the main reason you would even be 543 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: doing it is because you're like, oh, maybe this is 544 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: gonna make me look like her. Maybe I'm gonna lose 545 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: weight if I don't eat gluten, if I don't eat dare, 546 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: if I don't you know, whatever the food may be. 547 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: So if you really get honest with yourself, it's like, 548 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: it's not really about the gluten. It's about what cutting 549 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: out the gluten you think is going to bring you. 550 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: And as you were talking about that, I was thinking 551 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: about how like people will talk about, like my skin 552 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: has changed and this and that and and that can 553 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: be totally true. But I have had this estetation. Her 554 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: name is Hannah Ellis and she owns Hannah Ellis Skincare 555 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: and Nashville. She's amazing and I have gone to her 556 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: many times and she is harp so hard on. I 557 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: will never tell you to not eat something for your skin. 558 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: That's not my job. I don't know that part of this. 559 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: Like I can talk about your skin, and I can 560 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: tell you what I see, and I can give you 561 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: these treatments, but I am not going to tell you 562 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: that like dairy is causing your rosa shaw or your 563 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: assistic acne or any of that, because that's not my 564 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: job and I am not trained in that, like I'm 565 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: trained in this. We don't do nutrition. We don't do that. 566 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: So if anybody in that realm is telling you that 567 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: it could be true, that's the thing. It's the same 568 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: with the semi tip heard. It's like those things aren't 569 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: inherently bad. It could be true that something is causing 570 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: this inflammation in your skin or something, and we need 571 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: to make sure that we are getting that information from 572 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: somebody that actually knows what they're talking about, versus somebody 573 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: who's like, oh, this is what I did, or this 574 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: happened to my friend, or this happened to a client 575 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: of mine. It's like, well, no, what actually the facts? 576 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: Because if I start thinking think about how that just 577 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: like the fearmongering of that. Like I at one point 578 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: was very, very very afraid of dairy products. I've never 579 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: he had a problem digesting dairy I've never had a problem, 580 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: like I feel like never in my life. Now. I 581 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: do have people in my family that are lactose intolerant 582 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: that like if they don't take their medication and then 583 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: they have this they have ice cream, they will literally 584 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: be in the bathroom for like four days. So I 585 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: know what that looks like. That's never been me. But 586 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: I was so afraid of eating these foods because I 587 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: heard that it can cause this problem with your skin, 588 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: It can cause this bloating, it can cause inflammation, And 589 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well, maybe if I stop eating dairy, 590 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: my skin will look flawless like Hayley Beavers. I will 591 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: lose weight because I won't be bloated anymore, and then 592 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: I will not have inflammation, So then I'll even be 593 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: even smaller when like I wasn't bloated, worn flames, that's 594 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: just what my body looked like, yes, yes, exactly. And 595 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: even if someone because that makes me think about what 596 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: we talked about on my podcast about like influencer culture 597 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: of like even if someone is saying like, oh I 598 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: cut out area and now look my face is so 599 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: like smooth and beautiful and perfect, like even if deep 600 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: down it did make that change for them, it doesn't 601 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: mean it's going to make that for you. And oftentimes 602 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: in those situations there's probably a lot more to the 603 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: story than just cutting on dairy like so frustrating. And 604 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: also like people's skins sometimes like they just are lucky 605 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: and some people have like I have a friend last 606 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: night who was like she was beautiful, like flaw like 607 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: literally flawless skin, and she was like I use a 608 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: bar soap to wash my face, Like oh my gosh. 609 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: But if she wanted to be an influencer and people 610 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: were like, well, what is your diet? She'd say, well this, 611 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: I eat this and and and if she maybe like 612 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: was being endorsed by a skin care line, she started 613 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: using their products like these are the products I use. 614 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: This is the diet that I follow. And it's like 615 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: those things aren't making her skin look that way. She 616 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: just naturally is really lucky in that area. And I 617 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: think that that's something that gets really confused too, especially 618 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: with like going back to the seventy five hard like, oh, 619 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: this this happened for me, Like look at where I 620 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: am now after doing it. It's like, well you were 621 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: kind of there before, Like it's not that that. Yeah, 622 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: So like saying that I'm going to get that now 623 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. Yes, So can we move on 624 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: to my next question? Yes? Oh, I have two questions, 625 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: and I'm going to try not to talk. Okay, I 626 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: don't want to talk. I won't let you speak, okay. 627 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: So my second to last question is what's the most 628 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: frustrating slash annoying posts that you have seen recently or 629 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: the thing that you've seen somebody post about. Don't have 630 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: to be a specific post recently from like wellness culture 631 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 1: m H. Maybe it's like a topic, just one, just 632 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: one like maybe it's a topic, maybe it's like a theme, 633 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: or maybe it's an actual like post you you saw, 634 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: you don't have to call the person out, but like, 635 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: what's something that frustrate did you? From a dietitian's perspective? Okay, 636 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: So the first thing that comes to mind for me 637 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: is the trend and I feel like it maybe at 638 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: this point has like mellowed down a little bit. But 639 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 1: the trend that's going around where people are making coke 640 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: and using balstamic vinegar. Have you seen that? Yes? And 641 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: I was I watched those videos because I was like, 642 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is one of those things where you're like, 643 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: are you dumb? Like that's not gonna taste like coke? No, No, 644 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: like it's I mean, it just makes no sense. And 645 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: those when those things happen. I feel like there's been 646 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: other things like dumb things like that people did, like 647 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: the internal shower, those like chia seeds and water, which 648 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: is just crazy. But one I'm like, I just wish 649 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: I could find the original video, like whoever like first 650 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: did that and just like what in the world? What? Well? 651 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know, I said, I was not gonna talk, 652 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: but what you the internal shower thing like? First of all, 653 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: I think we need to explain this because some people 654 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: might not have seen either of these. So will you 655 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: say at the balstomic vinegar trend was, and then say 656 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: what the internal shower trend was? Yes, So the balsamic 657 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: one was basically for marketed from the perspective like, okay 658 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: instead of drinking coke, which kind of gives you that 659 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: mindset of Okay, coke is bad because I need to 660 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: make an alternative for it. Do I think it was 661 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: sparkling water and add balsamic vinegar to it, and I'm 662 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: pretty sure that was just it, and you just mix 663 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: it together and it's supposed to take set coke. Now, 664 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't like coke. I've never I just I hate coke. 665 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: But I can also imagine I would hate that so 666 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: much more. I still concind of vaguely remember what coke 667 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: tastes like, and I just never would be like, oh, 668 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: this kind of tastes like balstomic vinegar to me, No, no, 669 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: it sounds horrible. I was listening to one of my 670 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,479 Speaker 1: favorite podcasts is The Morning Toast, and it's so good 671 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: and I was listening to them, and they on their 672 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: podcast did it, and it was hilarious hearing Claudia talk 673 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: about it because she was like, this is the most 674 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: disgusting thing I've ever tasted in my life, Like I 675 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: can't even get the flavor out of my mouth, Like 676 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: I can't believe I did this please somebody, Like I 677 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: wish I could rewride my life, Like the idea of 678 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: it is like crazy, but and I and I want 679 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: to say, I know before I said like, are you dumb? 680 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: Like that even sounds dumb, But I think that also 681 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: speaks to like, and I do have so much empathy 682 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: for this, that speaks to like how strong diet culture 683 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: and wellness culture is that it would make a well meaning, 684 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: intelligent human being who has had coke before, who has 685 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: had balsamic vinegar before. I believe that there might be 686 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: a way that this could could then replace this, and 687 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: I should do that because obviously coke is bad, but 688 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: like what's worse like drinking a coke or forcing yourself 689 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: to drink a glass of vinegar when you are cringing 690 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: diss Yes, and I mean what we know about like 691 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: just restricting or telling which I mean that would be 692 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: restricting or like telling yourself like I can't have this, 693 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: so I'm going to do the balsamic thing instead. Eventually 694 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: you're going to reach this point of like I just 695 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: need a coke, or like, okay, since I'm not having coke, 696 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna have ice cream, and then you like 697 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: overdo it in one way or another and then you 698 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: feel guilty and it leads to this like whole cycle. 699 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: So this would be the same with like everything else 700 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: I talked about with food, of like if you want 701 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: the coke, drink the coke. Also, the chances are if 702 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: you actually allow yourself to have what you're craving, you're 703 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: probably gonna have less of it, versus if you like 704 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: have the balsamic drink, and then eventually like Okay, on Saturdays, 705 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let myself drink coke, You're probably gonna drink 706 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: like a two lead or something crazy, versus like just 707 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: allowing yourself to have it when you want it and 708 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: then moving on and it doesn't have to be that 709 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: big of a deal. Yeah, And then there's the internal shower, 710 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: which I saw that too. In the amount of minutes 711 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: I've wasted on my life watching Oh my gosh, because 712 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 1: it's like a huge amount of chias and then water 713 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: and just know but has they don't know if everybody's 714 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: seen them in water, they like congeal and they get 715 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: like all like I cannot imagine drinking it. It's like 716 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: jello but not quite. But with that, it's like, I mean, 717 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: even going back to the food sensitivity stuff, like the 718 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: only way like if you genuinely think you're having like 719 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: digestive issues where you're needing like an internal cleans quote unquote, 720 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: how are they're like talking about it? You need to 721 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: be working with the dietitian who specializes in gut health. 722 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: And then if she recommends, hey, add more fiber to 723 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: your diet, chia seeds could be a great way to 724 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: do so, then eat more chia seeds. But you don't 725 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: have to put it in water and drink it, and 726 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: so many ways you can. You can put chia seeds 727 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: in your diet throughout your day that you don't have 728 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: to force yourself to drink a cup full of them. 729 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: I think that's like the intensity of it. It's like 730 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: I could be eating that many chea seeds throughout my 731 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: day and have no idea versus I'm now having to 732 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: like chug this like repulsive drink and then I'm but 733 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: then also like, yeah, what happens. It's just a whole thing. 734 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: I should do a whole podcast episode on laxatives and 735 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: what they actually do versus what we think they do, 736 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: because I think the world is very confused on what 737 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: like taking the laxative does, and not to anybody's fault, like, 738 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: especially when you're like in this space of like I 739 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: am really invested in my body image and I have 740 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: negative body image, and I think that I look this way, 741 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: but when I go to the bathroom, I think I 742 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: look this way. And also if we're restricting and we're 743 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: not getting certain foods and like, you probably aren't going 744 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: to the bathroom as much as you should, and so 745 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: you can create a dependency. Yeah. Anyway, Okay, so we're 746 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: to move on because you know time, I said we're 747 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: only going to keep this episode thirty minutes, and we're 748 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: already ten minutes past that. So um, last question I 749 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: want to ask all of these Okay, what is to 750 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: bring me back? Okay, Okay, guys, so I know I 751 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: said this is an intro, but I'm gonna say it again. 752 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you missed it. But as I was reading the 753 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: last question, I noticed that Dylan was frozen, and I 754 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: was thinking maybe her internet stopped working, But it was 755 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: my internet. My internet stopped working. So what I did after, 756 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean intentive teen minutes of troubleshooting, It's Friday afternoon, 757 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: she has a kid. I am about to start putting 758 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: the finishing touches on, getting my house ready to get 759 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: pictures taken so I can sell it because I'm moving. 760 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: And so I just said, Dylan, we only had one 761 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: more question. I'm going to text it to you and 762 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: then I can just read it, so they still get 763 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: to hear the answer and I still get to hear 764 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: the answer. So the question that I was trying to 765 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: ask Dylan at the end was what's one thing during 766 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: your training as a registered dietitian and your road to 767 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: becoming a registered dietitian that you learned about food or 768 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: the body that changed your food philoso to be and 769 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: how you you view um your work. And this is 770 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: her answer, When I truly realized the impact that food 771 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: can play on our overall health in parentheses, mental health, relationships, emotions, 772 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: et cetera, that shift in my food philosophy drastically. In school, 773 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: I was taught to view food by numbers, how many 774 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: calories it can contain, what is good, what is bad. 775 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: But in my experience as a dietitian, I've learned that 776 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: is missing the big picture. If we just focus on 777 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: the numbers in the name of health, we actually aren't 778 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: really improving our health at all. We work to improve 779 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: our relationship with food, where we can say yes to 780 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: foods with confidence and say no to foods because they 781 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: don't sound good. That's when our health really improves. Beautiful, 782 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe better that she wrote it out 783 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: because I was I kept being like, I mean, you 784 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 1: listen to the episode. I'm not going to talk. I'm 785 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: gonna let you speak. And when I talked to Dylan, 786 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: I just like, let myself unleash when it comes to 787 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: this stuff. So that's what happened anyway. So that was 788 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: a beautiful answer and I really appreciate at it. And 789 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,959 Speaker 1: like I said in the intro, if you guys want 790 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: to work with Dylan or you want to learn more 791 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: about her, you want to follow her, you can follow 792 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: her at Dylan Murphy dot r D and at Free 793 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: Method Nutrition. As always, thank you, guys for being here 794 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: and for listening and for being part of the community. 795 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: I hope that you gain something and this helped you 796 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: kind of untangle your own stuff where you can start 797 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: again to create more agency and understanding and make choices 798 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: based on information and education and make choices that fit 799 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: you versus make choices that people tell you should make. 800 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: That's the goal here and all of this stuff. So 801 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: I hope you have the day you need to have, 802 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 1: the weekning to have the time you need to have. 803 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: I am also doing that as I am on vacation 804 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: right now. So I will talk to you soon. And 805 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: if you want to follow me, you can follow me 806 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: at cat dot de fata on Instagram and at you 807 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: Therapy Podcasts on Instagram. If you haven't read the podcast, 808 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: I would love for to do that. It would be awesome. 809 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: Give me some good feedback or some constructive feedback in 810 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: a kind way that also counts as good, and I 811 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: will talk to you guys and soon