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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, welcome to the show. Great to have you

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Speaker 1: with us. Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you in

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Speaker 1: segment two, it's more likely to happen with a bunch

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Speaker 1: of stuff including Texans players, AFC South opponents, some fun

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Speaker 1: stuff with the Big twelve in college football. Also later on,

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Speaker 1: a polygraph test will put various people in the NFL

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Speaker 1: under the polygraph for things they have said this week.

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Speaker 2: But let's kick it off with the.

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Speaker 1: Executive vice president and GM of your Houston Texans, Nick Cassario.

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Speaker 1: We visited with him.

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Speaker 2: Nick.

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Speaker 3: How's it going.

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Speaker 2: Hello, It's good to see you. Great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned something in your press conference about having the

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Speaker 1: team together if you had to play this weekend. You

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Speaker 1: feel pretty good about these guys so far heading into

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Speaker 1: the draft. How important is that before you actually start

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Speaker 1: the draft.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you have an opportunity to kind of assimilar team,

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Speaker 4: put the team in a position where if you had

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Speaker 4: to go out there and play a game you could

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Speaker 4: do that, then your draft strategy is really dictated on. Okay,

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Speaker 4: let's just pick the best players regardless of the position,

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Speaker 4: that we feel are the right fits for our organization

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Speaker 4: and the team so I would say that's kind of

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Speaker 4: what I was alluding to, you know, with that you

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Speaker 4: know that with that answer, So you know, we're hopeful

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Speaker 4: that the players that we've added to the team over

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Speaker 4: many it's been sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, hover many players that

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Speaker 4: in some way they're going to be able to impact

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Speaker 4: the team in a positive way. You know, we'll get

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Speaker 4: more information here as we go during any offseason and

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Speaker 4: through training camp, but you know, hopefully the players that

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Speaker 4: we've added could certainly help us.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you probably don't know this, but you've won

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Speaker 2: the offseason. I don't know if you knew this. I

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Speaker 2: know you love that paper champions, I'm exactly, but the

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Speaker 2: additions that you have made, Nick, and I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: remember last time we talked to you think was at

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Speaker 2: the combine. So we were a lot of them that

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Speaker 2: most recent one is the one that got a lot

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Speaker 2: of people talking. And I know this, When I see

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Speaker 2: you you're running somewhere, I don't really make much of it.

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Speaker 2: I really don't, because you're always kind of running somewhere.

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Speaker 2: But I happened to see you not thirty minutes before then,

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Speaker 2: I was leaving the film officer just talking to Tommy,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you went flying by. I

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Speaker 2: And then like thirty minutes later, there's a deal made

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Speaker 2: for Stefan Diggs. I know you can't take us through everything,

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Speaker 2: but getting Stefan. What does it mean for this team

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Speaker 2: and this offense that you add a guy with his

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Steph's been a productive player throughout his career,

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Speaker 4: so he's been pretty consistent. He's pretty instinctive player, it's

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Speaker 4: good hands, has some position flexibility. So you know, we're

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Speaker 4: fortunate to have some what we think are pretty good

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Speaker 4: players at that position currently on the roster. But if

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Speaker 4: you have an opportunity to add a player like Steph

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Speaker 4: to the team, we thought it made sense for us

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Speaker 4: to do. So it was something that you know, ultimately

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Speaker 4: So you know, we'll see how it goes when you

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Speaker 4: get here, but you know, certainly excited about Stephan what

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Speaker 4: he can potentially do for our team.

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Speaker 2: Well, you have a lot of continuity too.

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Speaker 1: You have a lot of guys coming back, obviously, and

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Speaker 1: this time of year last year, we didn't really know

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Speaker 1: what it was going to look like, Nick, but now

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Speaker 1: we had a good glimpse with a division championship playoff victory.

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Speaker 1: What about adding on to that and in the draft?

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Speaker 1: How do you go about that? Because it's not just

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Speaker 1: the individuals, it's the chemistry as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, no, A big part of it honestly starts

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Speaker 4: So we have a number of players on both sides

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Speaker 4: So what we try to do is just find the

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Speaker 2: Nick, how much of the right way of saying this,

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Speaker 2: how much of a player, or say a free agent,

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Speaker 2: how much of his skills and how they fit with

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Speaker 2: How much does he compliment Tank and Nico and the

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Speaker 2: that process? Or is it just I'm going to get

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Speaker 2: good football players that we think fit what we already

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Speaker 4: It's probably a combination of both, because once you get

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Speaker 4: a little bit different, see how they handle it okay.

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Speaker 4: In the end, you know what, we're better off maybe

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Speaker 4: doing something different, maybe something that they've already done or

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Speaker 4: more comfortable doing. But to the kind of the second

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Speaker 4: up as many good football players as possible. And once

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Speaker 4: a great job of utilizing the players and putting them

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Speaker 4: in a position where they can scentuate accentuate their skills.

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Speaker 4: But the spring and the off season is a time

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Speaker 4: where you might be able to experiment a little bit,

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Speaker 4: you know, but a few different things. I'd say that

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Speaker 4: those are some of the ad managers of the spring.

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Speaker 1: I remember it was a few months ago we were

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Speaker 1: talking about you having picked number twenty three and you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you know we're going to use that pick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I felt right into that trap too, didn't. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I should know better. I should trying to keep you

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Speaker 2: on your toes fifty nine. Yeah, well take us through

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Speaker 1: That what's it going to be like during the first

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Speaker 1: you observe what's going on. And I know you guys

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Speaker 1: have mocks and everything like that, so you're trying to

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Speaker 2: Right and just read the whole thing, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a big part of it, Mark. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we'll still kind of go through our process. So there's

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Speaker 4: probably fifteen or twenty players that you know we're going

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Speaker 4: then we'd have to weigh the cost benefits potentially doing that.

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Speaker 4: But I think it goes back to just known as

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Speaker 4: where you think they may fall, and it's just relying

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Speaker 2: Some are probably a little more accurate than others.

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Speaker 4: But again, you're really just kind of adjusting and reacting

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Speaker 4: then you're kind of you're looking ahead to Friday if

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Speaker 4: we don't pick on Thursday, which right now we're not

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Speaker 4: scheduled to. But by the same token, if you get

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Speaker 4: making the move. Then if we were to do that,

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Speaker 4: what are the what's the cost associated with that? So

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Speaker 4: I think more than anything, we've just always tried to

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Speaker 4: create as much optionality for ourselves as possible. So we're

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Speaker 4: anything more hopeful that we'll get you know, two quality players,

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Speaker 4: two or three quality players. I'm on Friday. If we

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Speaker 4: do have an opportunity on Thursday that makes sense, it'll

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Speaker 4: be something for us to consider and discuss and ultimately

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Speaker 4: just try to make the right decision at the time.

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Speaker 2: Nick two parter number one, How close are you set

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Speaker 2: on your board? Number two? Do you set your board

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Speaker 2: according to where you're drafting now? Like, for example, at

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Speaker 2: you still set your board just in case one of

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Speaker 4: This is why you assign a grade accordingly. So you

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Speaker 4: do it in a way where a grade is commensurate

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Speaker 4: necessarily changing anything, right, it's just your positioning them similar

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Speaker 4: it doesn't really change anything there from a logistics standpoint.

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Speaker 4: From a strategy standpoint, that's where it's you know, can

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Speaker 4: maybe alter a little bit, but it doesn't necessarily affect

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Speaker 4: in a different position than we were previously.

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Speaker 1: How many trades are not pre set, but you've worked

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Speaker 1: out general parameters on things. Hey, if this happens, well

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Speaker 1: we might be calling about this or that or the

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Speaker 2: How much do you do that kind of thing?

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Speaker 4: It's a good question mark, I would say not a

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Speaker 4: lot of teams are really willing to entertain that until

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Speaker 4: probably actual draft day, and then a lot of is

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Speaker 4: contingent upon well, you you don't know who's going to

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Speaker 4: and say all right, well, we'd be interested in whatever

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Speaker 4: the pick is right, which I would say going back

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Speaker 4: to last year, you know, we had discussions leading up

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Speaker 4: probably have more of those types of discussions as far

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Speaker 4: as any other discussions. It's going to really be in

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Speaker 4: real time where you're reacting to kind of what's going on,

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Speaker 4: and then what is a team's willingness to move in

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Speaker 4: either direction. I think what we try to do is

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Speaker 4: have an under standing philosophically of how that team maybe operates,

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Speaker 4: what their willingness to move is. The trends definitely show

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Speaker 4: you some teams that are more willing to move than others,

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Speaker 4: so you try to use all the information you have,

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Speaker 4: But I'd say those are probably like more real time

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Speaker 4: to maybe at the top of the round.

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Speaker 2: Nick, I know you go to games throughout the year.

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Speaker 4: And you're usually looking for me be a few different things,

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Speaker 2: So you know, we know they're going to training camp.

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Speaker 2: What's the biggest goal with a thirty visit, Nick, You're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just information and it's just to get maybe

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Speaker 4: Going to interact with multiple people on multiple levels, not

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Speaker 1: Well, you have players that might have played with some

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Speaker 2: The next absolutely, and it comes from anybody.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we'll ask uh, Jared Patterson, hey, what

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Speaker 2: Right? Will Anderson, Hey, Will, what are your thoughts here? Henry?

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Speaker 4: So these players they might know him better than we

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Speaker 4: And I think when you're in our building. After a

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Speaker 1: Looking at the alma maters of guys you've drafted, you

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Speaker 4: Or what if there was somebody from John Carroll, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Michael White came from Brown is now the rams cecil

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Speaker 2: we don't have a program. But what goes into that?

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Speaker 1: Because they do have outstanding competition and maybe you see

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a part of it, but you're still you're

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Speaker 4: a little bit more indicative of what we're going to

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Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that every player that is on those

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you know, the most fun thing that I

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Speaker 2: give us scout a report. You can talk about all

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was explosive. I mean that he jumped off

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Speaker 4: So but it's just how explosive, how powerful he was

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Speaker 2: So a lot of people after the fact of Clay Well,

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Speaker 2: We missed the boat on that guy. Oh man, was

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Speaker 4: You always go back John and maybe take a look

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Speaker 2: How did he actually play? So? And it usually goes

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Speaker 4: Maybe you overvalue a player, maybe he doesn't perform at

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 2: So the Rolling Stones are going to be in the

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Speaker 1: So I heard if Mick Jagger wants to see the

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's funny bring that.

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Speaker 4: I think they're actually going to be practicing during the

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Speaker 2: So we'll see. So have you been to any I

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Speaker 1: Have you been to any of the other events here

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Speaker 4: No? Really, the only thing I've done, took my middle

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Speaker 2: People don't understand. This is the busy season, this is

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Speaker 2: this uniform reveal on Tuesday. I'm not sure if you

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Speaker 2: maybe haven't you seen them? I'm over there. Maybe I

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Speaker 2: new gear. Oh, new vests. See, so that's what I

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Speaker 1: Need a whole collection. Thanks a lot, good luck, Thanks fellas.

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Speaker 3: All right, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: That was the general manager executive vice president of the

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Speaker 1: They feel good about the team heading into the draft,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a hot take or not.

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Speaker 1: We should be very excited about this draft. Nick Casserio

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Speaker 1: ammunition here. And even though there's no first round pick,

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Speaker 1: the euphoria, the elation we felt last year with picks

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Speaker 1: number two and eventually three.

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Speaker 3: Look, you're not gonna get that.

442
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Speaker 1: This year, but what you could get are some players

443
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Speaker 1: that turn out to be dynamic, dynamite players for this team.

444
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Speaker 1: You might not know until you start playing games. But

445
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Speaker 1: I think we should get really pumped up about this draft.

446
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Speaker 3: I guess I'm preaching to the choir in some ways.

447
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Speaker 2: Well, you know I feel I mean, I'm pumped about

448
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Speaker 2: the draft twenty four to seven, three sixty five unless

449
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Speaker 2: Nick drafts a kicker, which is something that I didn't

450
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Speaker 2: mention to him, and hopefully he's not going to do

451
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,879
Speaker 2: that because he's got a punter and Tommy Townsend, and

452
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Speaker 2: he's got a kicker in Kayamie Fairbrand and long snapper

453
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Speaker 2: and John Weeks and they're all top of the league.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think that's gonna happen. But I'm always

455
00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,400
Speaker 2: excited about the draft because who isn't excited about something new.

456
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,959
Speaker 2: You know, it's new and fresh, that's added to the

457
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Speaker 2: team and makes an impact, and you just never know that.

458
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Speaker 2: I think that's why the draft is so fun. You

459
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 2: just never know when a name is going to be called,

460
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Speaker 2: and you hear that name, and I always like, what's

461
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Speaker 2: my reaction I hear that name. My first reaction is, oh, God,

462
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Speaker 2: I hope I scouted that guy, and I hope I

463
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 2: liked him, because there have been times when it's not

464
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 2: been the case where I haven't absolutely loved the guy

465
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Speaker 2: in the in the analysis, but then they get here

466
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Speaker 2: and they start changing your mind. I think a great

467
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Speaker 2: example that was Jared Patterson last year. At this time

468
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Speaker 2: I was not really high on Jared Patterson. He was

469
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Speaker 2: trying to play guard. I thought he should be a center.

470
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Speaker 2: Just didn't love it, didn't love his week at the

471
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Speaker 2: Senior Bowl at all. But then he gets in here

472
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Speaker 2: and he starts doing a good job. Like man Patterson's Wow,

473
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Speaker 2: he's really played well today. Boy, This last week he's

474
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Speaker 2: been good, but his preseason game he was really good.

475
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Speaker 2: And then you get him into games and he's really effective,

476
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Speaker 2: and you look back and you think, Okay, glad I

477
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Speaker 2: missed that one. Jared's done some good things and hopefully

478
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Speaker 2: he'll have an opportunity to come back healthy and be

479
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Speaker 2: able to do some more good things. But that, to

480
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Speaker 2: me is always the fun, Like where were you what

481
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Speaker 2: did you feel like when you heard that name, or

482
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Speaker 2: what was going on? Obviously we're all remember last year

483
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Speaker 2: with CJ and Will, but you know what was it

484
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Speaker 2: like when he drafted somebody in late rounds? You know

485
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Speaker 2: DJ Reader back in sixteen, and I remember that pick

486
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Speaker 2: because I loved Reader. I was I was a big

487
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Speaker 2: Reader guy. I loved him. I watched him at the

488
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Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl, and I just remember there was

489
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Speaker 2: a guy behind me. I don't know, I think he

490
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Speaker 2: was an agent or agent runner or whatever, and he

491
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Speaker 2: every time DJ did something, that guy was flipping out.

492
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Speaker 2: It's like he was the hype man. And and one

493
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Speaker 2: you know, it's like, oh, DJ Reader just wrote that.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I mean, he's going off chuckled out with a

495
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Speaker 1: designated laugher at a comedy club.

496
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Speaker 2: But you know what it did. It just continued to

497
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Speaker 2: emphasize how many plays he was making. Yeah, And and

498
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Speaker 2: then I just learned more about his story, and I thought,

499
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Speaker 2: and I remember when we drafted, thought it's gonna be

500
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Speaker 2: a good draft pick. And look at him now, I mean,

501
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 2: he's made it. He's made a bunch of money. He

502
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Speaker 2: was really really good for us. He was really really

503
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Speaker 2: good for the Bengals, and he'll be really really good

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Speaker 2: for the Browns.

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Speaker 3: He fifth round, right, fifth round?

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Speaker 2: Geez all right.

507
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Speaker 1: Along the lines of Patterson, Nick said, was it here

508
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Speaker 1: during his press conference?

509
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Speaker 2: What he said? Yeah?

510
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Speaker 1: For instance, you might ask Jared Potters Patterson what he

511
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Speaker 1: thinks of a guy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so who from Notre Dame might end up on

513
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Speaker 2: this team? I don't know. I thought about that, he did.

514
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Speaker 2: The name I did think about that, I have it.

515
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Speaker 2: There are a few names. I won't say them out loud,

516
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Speaker 2: but there are there are a few. There are a few.

517
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Speaker 2: In fact, one of the one of the names is

518
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Speaker 2: is somebody I know he mentioned to you know, a

519
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Speaker 2: friend of mine. So I could see that wouldn't be

520
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Speaker 2: it wouldn't be an early pick, but it would look

521
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Speaker 2: you have a wealth of knowledge, like that's why you know?

522
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Speaker 2: Ask will we asked, will that question about Hey, tell

523
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Speaker 2: us about something Alabama? Dama too?

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Will too, Well, guess what there are draftable

525
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Speaker 1: players from Notre Dame in Alabama?

526
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Speaker 2: This Shokker in Yes, breaking news.

527
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Speaker 3: You won't get this information anywhere else.

528
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Speaker 2: But what information you will get is going to be

529
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Speaker 2: some of the stuff that maybe your scouts can't get.

530
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Speaker 2: And the scouts are they're shaking a tree leash for everything.

531
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Speaker 2: But there're gonna be interactions between former players, former teammates

532
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Speaker 2: that you might they might be able to tell you

533
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Speaker 2: a lot more than or you can at least go

534
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Speaker 2: back to scout, Hey, Hey, did you hear this about him? Yeah?

535
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Speaker 1: This is what's such and such? Sure, absolutely, that's what

536
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: you guys know them. It's valuable information. Another vibe, I god,

537
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Speaker 1: this is just a vibe between the press conference and

538
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Speaker 1: our visit with Nickosario. Yeah we know this going in

539
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,959
Speaker 1: and yeah they pick it forty two. But I just

540
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Speaker 1: got the feeling, is he targeting moving back into the

541
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Speaker 1: first round late?

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Speaker 2: I just felt did you feel that too? I got

543
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Speaker 2: that vibe to you know, I got that maybe he's

544
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Speaker 2: just putting it out there whatever. I don't know, And

545
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Speaker 2: you know, Nick.

546
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it'll happen, sometimes it won't, and various things will

547
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Speaker 1: play into that. But I got the feeling, Wait, he's

548
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Speaker 1: not completely dismissing.

549
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Speaker 2: This at all, So no, see, not at all. I

550
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Speaker 2: I it's so funny you say that, because I got

551
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Speaker 2: that same vibe in fact, when he when he was

552
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,479
Speaker 2: talking in his press conference, I kind of I'm listening,

553
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Speaker 2: and I kind of looked over at you one point

554
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 2: and you weren't looking at me, and I was kind

555
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: of like, hmmm, that was interesting what he just said,

556
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: because we'll do that. We'll catch eyes at something he

557
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 2: said and go, okay, that was one of them. I

558
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 2: was like, he's thinking about going back up into the

559
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Speaker 2: first The thing is, I think he keeps every option open.

560
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 2: I think I think Nick is in a sense, you know,

561
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: a lot like a coach, you know, for a coach,

562
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Speaker 2: you know, I think about you know, Bobby Slowik, Like

563
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: Bobby gets how many of her plays ready to go

564
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Speaker 2: start the game, Like I don't know if it's the

565
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: fifteen they talk about our Tampa, But he gets an

566
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Speaker 2: idea of what he's going to start the game with,

567
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Speaker 2: or at least that's what he thinks. He's gonna start

568
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Speaker 2: the game with he might just have the first play,

569
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Speaker 2: throw it for a seventy five yard bomb, and then

570
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Speaker 2: you know, I have to change after that, which I

571
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind that seventeen weeks out of the year, like

572
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 2: they did against the Cults. But you go in there

573
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Speaker 2: with an idea and then all of a sudden something happens.

574
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Speaker 2: Somebody gets hurt. One of their guys gets hurt. Oh man,

575
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Speaker 2: it's a secondary guy. We're gonna throw the ball because

576
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Speaker 2: they got a secondary guy hurt. All of a sudden,

577
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: you just change, and you you go with the flow.

578
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: You're prepared for everything, but you go with the flow.

579
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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you look up there

580
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Speaker 2: and at you know number, pick number twenty four or

581
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Speaker 2: whatever it is. I think it's Green Bay. I think

582
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Speaker 2: Green Bay is twenty four. Green Beer Dallas is twenty four,

583
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Speaker 2: And you look at me, You're like, hey, wait a second,

584
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Speaker 2: you're doing the math. Man wouldn't be all that difficult

585
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Speaker 2: to get from where we are to there. Hey, let's

586
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Speaker 2: let's call him. The one question I wanted to ask

587
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Speaker 2: him to our press conference was what's people's reaction when

588
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Speaker 2: they pick up the phone and go Hey, Nick, Oh gosh,

589
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Speaker 2: because I can imagine trading with him is I think

590
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Speaker 2: I think the functionality of it's probably pretty easy because

591
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 2: he's done it so often. But I would imagine when

592
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 2: Nick starts calling you on the phone, I get a

593
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: little worried. I'd be like, Oh my god, what does

594
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Speaker 2: he want? What does it he wants? What is he

595
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Speaker 2: trying to do? If I was Minnesota and I get

596
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: that call and quest he gets the call, and I

597
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: know Minnesota's thinking about moving up and going get a quarterback,

598
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Speaker 2: and I know that's probably the information and that Nick

599
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: he knew that, So call, Hey, call Minnesota off from

600
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Speaker 2: a deal. Step to take it? He took it. Yeah,

601
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Speaker 2: grant scheme of things. You look at it and go.

602
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Speaker 2: It looked like the Texas came out of there on top.

603
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Speaker 3: I think that's fine.

604
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Speaker 2: I think that's but if we'd be nervous if my

605
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Speaker 2: team was getting call from Nick, I would be nervous

606
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Speaker 2: about my team, Well, what.

607
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: Does he want to do?

608
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Speaker 1: But Minnesota's agenda is different from the Texans. Oh, debiting

609
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Speaker 1: quarterback In all likelihood, I think what you're describing applies

610
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Speaker 1: to the later rounds or even round two.

611
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: Nick wants to move up five slots.

612
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Speaker 3: Well, who does he want?

613
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Speaker 2: Right right? Who does he want?

614
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Speaker 3: We should take who he wants?

615
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 2: Hey? Do we know? Hey? Let's call you back, Nick. Hey,

616
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Speaker 2: y'all know who the Texas want? Y'all know? Do do

617
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Speaker 2: you know? Boy?

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Speaker 1: The stuff that you don't get to see that would

619
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Speaker 1: be so awesome to see?

620
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: Is stuff like that all right?

621
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Speaker 3: Coming up? More likely to happen.

622
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Speaker 1: We'll also break out the polygraph on some of the

623
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Speaker 1: things that NFL people have been saying in the last

624
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Speaker 1: couple of days. It's Texans Radio right back to it

625
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: here on Texans Radio. Hey, Johnny, did I tell you

626
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: that my backyard faucet had a leak? Well that's the

627
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Speaker 1: only leak I'm going to be talking about on the

628
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Speaker 1: show now. Oh okay, Well, because I just don't want

629
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Speaker 1: to get into it right now. I'd rather just wait

630
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Speaker 1: for Tuesday and talk about everything as it happens, as

631
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Speaker 1: it's all unveiled, because there's a lot more than you've seen.

632
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Speaker 2: Even with the leak.

633
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Speaker 1: What exactly you're talking about, I'm not talking about it, Okay, nothing,

634
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: there's nothing to see here. Look, I'm not trying to

635
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: hide anything either. I mean I think it's really cool,

636
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: the new uniforms and new merge and everything like that.

637
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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about it. I think everybody's going to

638
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: be very excited about it. So let's just wait for

639
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: that to happen. And speaking of things happening, what about

640
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 1: more likely.

641
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 2: To happen, more likely to happen.

642
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: Let's go Johnny more likely to happen in twenty twenty four,

643
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce five hundred yards rushing or John Metchi the

644
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: third thirty five catches. Now, before you answer, here are

645
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: the numbers from twenty twenty three. Pierce had four hundred

646
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Speaker 1: and sixteen yards, two touchdowns, thirteen catches, but four hundred

647
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Speaker 1: sixteen rushing yards. Mechi meanwhile, had sixteen catches. He played

648
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Speaker 1: in sixteen games. Mechi had sixteen games. He participated in

649
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Speaker 1: sixteen catches, So he'd have to basically double the number

650
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Speaker 1: to get to thirty five piers five hundred yards. He

651
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: wasn't that far away from that. And it's not like

652
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Speaker 1: there are a ton of running backs on the roster.

653
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: They still need running backs in this draft or however

654
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Speaker 1: else they get them.

655
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Speaker 2: What do you think? I actually think both, to be

656
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: honest with you. I like both, I'd like the number

657
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: for both of them, But what's mean If I have

658
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: to pick one that's more likely to happen, I'm gonna

659
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: go with Damien. I'm gonna go Damien with with five

660
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: hundred yards rushing because me he feels like the solid

661
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 2: number two option right now going forward. What Mechi's role

662
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: is going to be with all these different receiver options

663
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: and combinations, I'm not totally sure, but I do think

664
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 2: I think five hundred yard rushing for Peers is more

665
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: likely to happen. But man, the way CJ was talking

666
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: about Mechi, just the excitement of Mechi being two years

667
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: removed from the ACL, one year removed now from fully

668
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: being cleared to play football after the leukemia thirty five

669
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: is gosh. You'd think, Okay, could you get two catches

670
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: a game? I think he's more than that. I think

671
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: he's more than that. But what the more likely one

672
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: to happen? Because I know that Pierce has got to

673
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: be the number two guy, I'm thinking five hundred yard rushing.

674
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: This is what I said earlier this week, a version

675
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: of it.

676
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: With all the projections we have of receiving totals for

677
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: this pass catching crew including Joe Mixon, Schultz and the receivers.

678
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: Obviously, I feel like if I add.

679
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: Up the number to meet that Stroud is gonna have

680
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: to throw sixty times a game.

681
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: I feel right now, that's exactly what comes into my

682
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: head too.

683
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: Like God attempts to go around.

684
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean exactly, in an ideal situation, you want a

685
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: quarterback around thirty five attempts, right, CJ.

686
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: Stroud thirty five to forty right.

687
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: You know, if you're behind, you're gonna throw at fifty

688
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: sometimes and sometimes you can't run the ball. You gotta

689
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: move the ball whichever way you can, so maybe you

690
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: throw it fifty plus or around that neighborhood. There are

691
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: only so many opportunities to go around. But it doesn't matter.

692
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: We want to win. We want to see the team win.

693
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: I think the players are gonna be happy as long as.

694
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: The squad is winning. Would you live with a mix

695
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: of thirty five twenty five thirty five throws twenty five rushes?

696
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd lift with have mix?

697
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

698
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: Are you kidding?

699
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: Twenty listen twenty five rushes If they're decent, you're doing well,

700
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: all right?

701
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: You get twenty five thirty carries.

702
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: If you get thirty carries, I bet there's a magic

703
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: number in there, because sometimes you're beating your head against

704
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: the wall with the running game. You're getting two three

705
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: yards of pop and it's just not the right coin.

706
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: You're not converting third downs, you're hunting whatever. So you

707
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: still get to twenty twenty five carries. But if you

708
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: get the third he carries, it looks like statistically, more

709
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: often than not, that's gonna be a meaningful number. That

710
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: means you're getting some gains on the ground there, you're

711
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: moving the rock.

712
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: It feels good. So if you're living with thirty five

713
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: thirty five passes twenty five rushes, yeah, say CJ is

714
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: completing at sixty five seventy percent, so you're talking about

715
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: twenty five thirty five basically, Yeah, that's about.

716
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: That's going there. So twenty five times seventeen.

717
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: So no, how do you? Yeah, how do you split

718
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: up twenty five receptions a game? How do you? How

719
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: do you split that up? It's a hot hand thing.

720
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: Some days Nico's gonna have seven for one, hundreds will

721
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: have that. Nico might have five, but maybe three explosives,

722
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: Well that'd be awesome.

723
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: But it's like one of those saying. It's like one

724
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: of those things with you know, people do draft analysis

725
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: and they've got like five hundred people that have a

726
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: third round grade. Well, like you can't have everybody with

727
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: a third round grade, you know, it just it just can't.

728
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: So twenty five completions, how do you split that up

729
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: amongst I mean, Tank, Nico, Digs, Mixing, Schultz, even Pierce, Metchi,

730
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: Hutchinson Woods. How do you split up twenty five receptions

731
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: amongst all those guys?

732
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: Are all those guys active at the.

733
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: Guy you draft? You'd never know?

734
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the next one. Here to happen,

735
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: all right, more likely to happen. A Jaguars losing season

736
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: or a Colt's losing season.

737
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: More likely to happen.

738
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: Not only yeah, I'm not asking to pick the winner

739
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: between these two, but who's the loser?

740
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: Who's more likely to have a losing campaign in twenty

741
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: twenty four.

742
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm leaning with the Colts for one reason and one

743
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: reason only. We still just don't know about Anthony Richardson.

744
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: We don't. I think the ceiling. Put it this way,

745
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: I think the ceiling is higher for the Colts. They

746
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: can get to eleven twelve wins, but the floor is

747
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: also lower, whereas the Jags, I think the floor is higher,

748
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: but the ceiling's not as high. I think they can

749
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: be nine to ten wins, but their floor is going

750
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: to be five to six wins. But I think the

751
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: Colts because the Richardson just don't know. So I'll go

752
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: with the Colts because I just feel like their floor

753
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: is lower if Richardson is just injured or he's not

754
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: all that. Although with Joe Flacco it could get kind

755
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: of interesting with the guy with all that experience, and

756
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: there's been talk about the Colts making them move up

757
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: to go get one of these wide receivers. Oh boy,

758
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: I don't like that. I don't like that, But I'm

759
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: still gonna go Colts because Anthony Richardson could be a

760
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: total wild guard.

761
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel like the Colts very oftenive receiver picked

762
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: the wrong guy. Since they selected t Y Hilton, Hilton

763
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: was the right guy. But what round was he third

764
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: or something?

765
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Third?

766
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: And obviously they had a bonanza with Marvin Harrison Senior

767
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: and Reggie Wayne. But since then it hasn't always panned

768
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: out the way you think it should. Pierce even to me,

769
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: has it really turned out the way you wanted to?

770
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: Now?

771
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Look, the quarterback inconsistency has been a remarkable play. And

772
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, when you talk about the best receivers in

773
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: the game, I know he's good. I know he's good,

774
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: but you're never gonna mention him in the same breath

775
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: as some of the other ones who are upper echelon

776
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: elite category receivers like Stefan Diggs.

777
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's put that theory to the test. Here

778
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: are the receivers that the Colts have drafted last year.

779
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: Josh Downs. I think Downs is gonna be good. Downs

780
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 2: had a big catch in the Patriots game in Germany,

781
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: made that diving catch.

782
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: But what about against the Houston Texas. I was watching

783
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: the end of the Texans Colts game regular season finale

784
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: and Downs had a big catch in that game.

785
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling you he's a good receiver. Twenty twenty

786
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: two second rounder Pierce Cincinnati. They draft this seventh rounder,

787
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman and good Desmond Patman, Paris Campbell, bust E

788
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: j Speedslil Says wide receiver, but he wasn't. Derse Founton

789
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: dion Caine.

790
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Torsett never panned out a like Philip, but he never

791
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: panned out the way this dorse set.

792
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: Dante Moncrief was a second round, no third rounder. Sorry,

793
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: and then you get all the way to twenty twelve

794
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: third round, the twenty ninth pick of the third round.

795
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: How about that t y Hill Yuck?

796
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,479
Speaker 3: I didn't say yikes, I said yuck.

797
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yuck. So the Colts? You think it's the Colts?

798
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: I say Colts just because of the Richardson bust, low

799
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: floor factor.

800
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: All right, So next one likely to happen? More likely

801
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: to have a losing season. I'm gonna stick with the

802
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: losing theme here. Two Texans opponents in twenty twenty four,

803
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: both on the road, Dallas and the Green Bay Packers.

804
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: More likely among those two to have a losing season?

805
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: Is it the Packers, who are feeling good after their

806
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four resurgence or the Dallas Cowboys who win

807
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: a ton of games on the regular season but flame

808
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: out spectacularly in the postseason. I know they beat the

809
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: Bucks what a couple of years ago, but it just

810
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like much considering their grand expectations.

811
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: My instant reaction was Packers, they come back down to earth,

812
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: so have a pretty young team. That was my instant reaction.

813
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: But if c Michael Parsons or something off, if they

814
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: get off to a slow start, if McCarthy gets gets fired.

815
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: I don't know if Jerry would do that, but that

816
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: could be. That could turn into team dysfunction very very quickly,

817
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: and we've seen team dysfunction turn from boy this has

818
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 2: got a lot of promise too. That's a four win team,

819
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: so I could see. I'm gonna say Dallas because I

820
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: do think the Packers are still ascending. I think they've

821
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: got enough young talent they'll send. I think Jacob's being

822
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: signed will help them give them fresher, younger legs than

823
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: maybe Aaron Jones. They got aj Dillon back, the young

824
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: receiver corps gets another year together. Defensively, I think they'll

825
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: be a little bit better and that will help. I

826
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: don't think either one of them has a losing season,

827
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: but I think I think if one was going to

828
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Cowboys, just because the the fine Italian

829
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: sports car with one widget off, they're going into the ditch.

830
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: That's I think the way that it could happen for

831
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, and who knows what it is. It could

832
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: be an injury. I think Jordan Loves is a better

833
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: quarterback than Dak Prescott is even at this point. Whoa,

834
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: But that's still pretty consistent. He's just won a lot

835
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: of games. He's won a lot of games. But I

836
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: just feel like there could be something off. They don't

837
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: have a running game. They don't have running back, they

838
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: lost Tyrone Smith. Their offensive line is kind of a mess.

839
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if they've got really a really good

840
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: number two receiver with Lamb, and if Lamb is gone,

841
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: they don't have a number one receiver. So I just

842
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: think things can go more wrong with the Cowboys, And

843
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: that's why I'm saying them, Okay, a final one more

844
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: likely to win the Big Twelve.

845
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: Next an old Guard team or a new Guard team,

846
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: and I'll include obviously, uh.

847
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: And the New Guard.

848
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: All right, So the old Guard you have Baylor, Obviously,

849
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: you have Oklahoma State, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State.

850
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: You know the teams, all right.

851
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: The New Guard you're dealing with teams, and actually it's

852
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: weird to have West Virginia part of the Old Guard,

853
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: but in this context, they are. Yeah, but you have

854
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: by you you have Cincinnati have uh, you have Central Florida.

855
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: Uh. It's it's a fun new guard really in the

856
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: Big Twelve.

857
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: So more likely to win the Big Twelve football championship

858
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: next and you see as well Cincinnati.

859
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: I think I think Arizona's got a good shot of

860
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: winning it. They've got Noah fafidat quarterback who's tremendous. They

861
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: might have the best receiver in country and TAROTOA McMillan

862
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 2: who's a stud, absolute animal. Now they're losing a few guys,

863
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: but they could have the best players in the country

864
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: at both corner, at wide receiver to Carlo Davis is

865
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: in the transfer portal, don't know, but Arizona could come

866
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: in there and win that thing. They could absolutely go

867
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: in there and win it. They spanked Oklahoma in the

868
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: bowl game, and I know bowl games don't tell you

869
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: a whole lot. Oklahoma State is going to be there,

870
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: Ali Gordon at Okloma State, it's gonna be good. So

871
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: I but I would tend to lean with kind of

872
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: the newer school. I don't think Kansas State's gonna be

873
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 2: as good as it was. You know, Kansas might still,

874
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: you know, be hanging around. But I feel like it's

875
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: kind of the new the newer schools that will go

876
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: into the Big twelve and make some noise, mostly Arizona,

877
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: but I like Arizona State, Arizona, Colorado. Oh, in Utah,

878
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: Utah is in there too, so oh that's yeah, so

879
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: new schools.

880
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, should they have renamed the conference?

881
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess, but they're probably The conference still

882
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: has a bit time like this. This is why I

883
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: look at it. Mark, when you're looking at kind of

884
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: renovations at a house and you're thinking about, like, man,

885
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: I should do the kitchen, should I not? Should do

886
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: the kitchen? Maybe maybe I'll do a bedroom. But then

887
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: there are these grand plans where you're gonna knock down

888
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: the whole house and build it all up anyways, So

889
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: I think that's what's gonna happen to college football anyway.

890
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: So you just stay as the Big twelve right now,

891
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: because you're probably gonna have these changes coming sooner or

892
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: later with this new super league that might be happening

893
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: eighty teams. Yeah, we'll see what happens with that. So

894
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: there was a there's a document that leak last week

895
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: and I was like, I like that. I think ten

896
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: teams in eight different divisions, and it just had symmetry,

897
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: it had geography, it brought back in rivalries. I just

898
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: think that would be the way to go. And you

899
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: give them a salary cap. They have a collective bargaining agreement,

900
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: they have all the things that kind of the NFL does.

901
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: But you apply to college and do it the college way.

902
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: It still doesn't solve the Title nine issues.

903
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: It does not. It does not, But that's not my

904
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: job to figure it out. They got to figure that out,

905
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: and I think they will and do time. And that's

906
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: going to be the hard part. All right.

907
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: Next up, let's get the polygraph out and apply it

908
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: to things said in the NFL this week.

909
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 3: And is Nick Cassario's name gonna come up in this conversation?

910
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: Find out?

911
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: It's Texans all Access. All right, let's have some fun

912
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: here on Texans. Ready, we always do, but let's have

913
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: more of it. Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you

914
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: Area forty five in the on deck circle, swing in

915
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: the microphone, so stay tuned for them. Johnny, are you

916
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: ready to do a polygraph on some of the things

917
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: said around the NFL this week. So if you think

918
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: the person is telling the truth, we will affirm that

919
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: they are telling the truth. However, if they are lying,

920
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: we will call that out as well. Are you ready

921
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: to go here?

922
00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: Of course? All right?

923
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: First item, Brandon Bean Bills don't need a true one No,

924
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: a true number one receiver.

925
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: Is that a lie? Or is he telling the truth? Okay, yeah,

926
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: he's not telling the truth. Every team in this league

927
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 2: needs they need now. Look you we've said it here

928
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 2: in Houston on a week to week basis. We don't

929
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: know who is going to be number one, but we

930
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: have number one quality receivers here in Houston to give

931
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: our quarterback options. That is what Josh Allen needs. Now.

932
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 2: Josh went to the podium today. I talked about, you know,

933
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna miss Diggs and you know, love him like

934
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 2: a brother and all that kind of stuff, But he's

935
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 2: gonna need a wide receiver weapon that when he needs

936
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: a first down, who's he throwing to? Is it just

937
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: gonna be Knox and Kincaid. I mean they're good, they're great,

938
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: but you better have a guy on third down that

939
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: you were gonna throw the ball to. That, my friends,

940
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: is a lie.

941
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: Did you hear what he said about Dalton Knox, No

942
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: about dunkin kid, Dalton Kinkaid.

943
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: That's easy. Sorry. You know, we have too many tight

944
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: ends around here named because there's Dawson Knox, Dalton.

945
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: There's also Dalton Schultz here, yeah, and there's Dalton Kean

946
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: we've had him.

947
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: And there's Dalton from Roadhouse, which takes presence over all.

948
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz is named after Dalton from roads all right,

949
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: So anyway, but did you hear what he said about Kinkaid?

950
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: He said Kincaid no matter what? Yeah, yeah, I thought

951
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: you he was texting random being that all day. Dal

952
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: Kinkaid no matter what, and it worked out. I think

953
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a it's gonna be a nice fit. Look,

954
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 2: the Patriots in the early twenty tens figured out with

955
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: two very dynamic tight ends. I think the Bills can

956
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: figure it out. But you still need to know who

957
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: that guy is on third down at receiver that can

958
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: end up getting you a first down catch down in

959
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: the red zone. Who do you throw to?

960
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: H So we'll see if Keene can do something. This

961
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 3: year is with the Houston Texans, so we'll find out soon.

962
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: Enough, all right, let's get to the next one on

963
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: the polygraph that we have going on things people in

964
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: the NFL have said this week. Joe Shane, he's the

965
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: general manager of the Giants, claims that the Giants do

966
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: not have buyer's remorse on the Daniel Jones contract.

967
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 2: Oh so, totally thumbs down. He's lying. There is no way,

968
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: no chance that one hundred percent truth serum. If he

969
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: were sitting right over there and we injected Joe Shane

970
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: with true serum. And I like Joe Shane. I think

971
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: he did a great job at Buffalo. I think he

972
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: did a really solid job with the Giants since he's

973
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: been over there. But that's a lie. There's no no,

974
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: no way. They look at it and go, you know, yeah,

975
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 2: it's just a freak thing. He got injured. No, the

976
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 2: whole time they're sitting there going, oh my gosh. Now,

977
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: their actions will tell us everything, because sitting at number six,

978
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: there's been some talk about them moving up. I heard

979
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: some rumors about them going up to three with the Patriots.

980
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: Go get a quarterback. Every time I hear them trading,

981
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: it's to go get a quarterback. So their actions will

982
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: a little bit. But I also feel like their actions.

983
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: If their actions are to not look at a quarterback

984
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: for the future, then I think they're doing it wrong

985
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: because I don't think Daniel Jones is going to be

986
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: the quarterback of the future for the Giants. Okay, that's

987
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: a lie.

988
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: Next one will put Nick Cassio under the Michael who

989
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: asked about Stefan Diggs. And you know, people want to

990
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,959
Speaker 1: know about Diggs and his behavior or whatever the case

991
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: may be, whatever you want to call it. And Nick,

992
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to just read you the Pro Football Talk headline.

993
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: Here the actual quote, Nick, Stefan Diggs, We're worried about

994
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: what a player does in our building, meaning concern. You

995
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: can read that the wrong way, but you know that's

996
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 1: what we're really concerned with. So apply the polygraph truth

997
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: or not.

998
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: I think that's truth. I think that's absolutely true. I

999
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: think that's how they look at it. I think with

1000
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: every single player in this league, when you're evaluating whether

1001
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: you want to go get that player, bring that player

1002
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: in trade for that player, sign that player, you're you

1003
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: want to get information. You want to get plenty of

1004
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: information about that particular player. But what it comes down

1005
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 2: to is, Hey, this is why it didn't fit over here.

1006
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: But look, we're not that organization. We have different things

1007
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: in place to make this better for that particular person.

1008
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: So let's take the risk and see whether that works here.

1009
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a lie. Oh, I think that's

1010
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: exactly how they look at it.

1011
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna give you one more to pick

1012
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: from here. You can pick one of these two guys

1013
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: to put on the polygraph machine. Now, you cannot ask

1014
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: them whatever you want, because one of them you're gonna

1015
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: be like, I know what I want to ask him.

1016
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, one is.

1017
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson, who says he's in a pretty good spot

1018
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: quote pretty good spot with his rehab because he's throwing

1019
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: up to forty yards right now. Or you can pick

1020
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. You never replace a player like Stefan Diggs. Okay,

1021
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: So which one do you want to pick here?

1022
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to pick at a previous scab, So

1023
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: let's go to Sean McDermott. Let's go to Sean mcderm

1024
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: and let's give a thumbs up the truth. I think

1025
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think nobody is strong. I think

1026
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: that's a strong it's a strong sentiment. I mean, I

1027
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: do think you can find players of you know, of

1028
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: Diggs ilk but I think but he's a special Johnny.

1029
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: But he is, there's no doubt. That's what I'm saying, right,

1030
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: That's what he's saying, is that, look, he meant a

1031
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: lot to us. I think Sean mcdermot's absolutely telling the truth.

1032
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 2: They they knew they had a dude that on third

1033
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: down down in the red zone, key time in the game,

1034
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: Diggs was making a catch.

1035
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: Put your sal capaccio, that's a side reporter of the Bills,

1036
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: your good friend, put your sal hat on. Who is

1037
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: the last receiver who's even close to Diggs? Eric Molds

1038
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: in Buffalo? Yeah, boy, that they've had and we all

1039
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: met Molds when we went out to do the night

1040
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: before the Yeah, that was fun boy. I don't know,

1041
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: I'd have to go with him if I here. Price

1042
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: was pretty good. Yeah, that's a But are we forgetting somebody?

1043
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: I don't think so, because I mean before that, obviously

1044
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: you got dere Andre reidh I mean that was loft In.

1045
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: He's a little different. But once you got out of

1046
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: that mix, like, oh boy, I don't know. Yeah, I

1047
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: mean I still asked me this question after a playoff game.

1048
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 2: He said, if we'd had Digs in the playoff game,

1049
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: would we have beaten you guys? And I said yes, absolutely, yeah,

1050
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: because you're up sixteen nothing. Yeah, first downs can do it.

1051
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: Hey they had They were in field goal range or

1052
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: near it in overtime, right, So look, they were very

1053
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: close to be to the Texans.

1054
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: Then, thanks a lot, Johnny. All Right, tomorrow night.

1055
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: A complete program including but not limited to nd Kalou

1056
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: and Robart Smith, their neighbors, their friends, their Texans OG's,

1057
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a big extended visit from them,

1058
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: among other stuff. Area forty five coming up. They will

1059
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: dissect everything that happened in the world of sports today,

1060
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: so you don't want to.

1061
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 3: Miss that at all. Have a great evening, Go Texans.