Speaker 1: Coming up on the Command Center Podcast, we are talking
Speaker 1: superheroes and our commander's confidence meter in Sam Howell. We
Speaker 1: got him Prett high, let's check that out.
Speaker 2: And then we got the Honeybears friend's breaking him down.
Speaker 1: Hey, boom boom, Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Logan Paulson. That's Fred Smooth, that's Santana Moss. Guys, if
Speaker 1: you were a superhero, who would you be? I'll start
Speaker 1: with you, Well.
Speaker 3: Fresds that I'd be kill hero.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be a flash because he's so fashed. You
Speaker 4: probably run backing time. I've seen him making time doing again.
Speaker 2: I've seen him do that in real life already with fourth.
Speaker 4: Down he ran baking time and first down all over again.
Speaker 4: What about you?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: You said Thor I like Captain America. I really.
Speaker 1: You know who I like the most is my favorite
Speaker 1: superhero is Batman because he's like he's like a normal guy,
Speaker 1: but he just works his butt off. But also then
Speaker 1: you think about it now that I'm older, it's got
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Yeah, Like the money kind of
Speaker 1: like like swings it the other way, so it's not
Speaker 1: just work ethic and grind it's like he got a
Speaker 1: nice inheritance from his family. But I like, I like
Speaker 1: heroes that are self made, that are.
Speaker 4: I see the Captain America. I'm very wholet you know
Speaker 4: you're gonna do stuff the right way. And I'm more
Speaker 4: of a did Pool guy.
Speaker 2: You are good anti hero.
Speaker 4: But but if it's if it's all hero, I'm pretty
Speaker 4: much iron mane because I'm quick witting.
Speaker 5: I'm quick witted.
Speaker 4: Plus he's the richest dude besides the Black Panther in Marvel.
Speaker 5: We just got a lot of coming.
Speaker 1: I want to be Arrow though Arrow my god, Arrol
Speaker 1: from Green Green, you know from the comics, right.
Speaker 4: Nobody actually ever wants to be hawk a green arrow
Speaker 4: like we fight aliens.
Speaker 5: He pops up with a bow and arrow like.
Speaker 3: I'm like, but he got a mean fight game, period.
Speaker 3: He got somebody.
Speaker 6: He ain't just have that arrow, but he will. He
Speaker 6: One of the things I've always said is crazy, because
Speaker 6: I tell folks is all the time, you know how
Speaker 6: like we don't see ourselves as fighters.
Speaker 3: You know, you look at that guys.
Speaker 6: He's an MMA guy, he's martial arts, you know all
Speaker 6: this stuff. I always wanted to know how to just
Speaker 6: hit people pressure points like this, get teach me how
Speaker 6: to just be able to go up and mess you
Speaker 6: up real quick without having to fight.
Speaker 3: You just want to show up like Spock.
Speaker 2: And it just took.
Speaker 6: I kind of found that interest in all my life,
Speaker 6: always said that I want to learn that.
Speaker 1: But I took did never like wrestle with people who
Speaker 1: like know what they're doing or fighters who know what
Speaker 1: they're doing. Here tell So I took a boxing class
Speaker 1: once and there was that there was an instructor. He
Speaker 1: was probably one hundred and fifty pounds, yeah, and he
Speaker 1: was in there We're gonna spar and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mess this dude up. And yeah, he had
Speaker 1: a full like padded suit on and you know, like
Speaker 1: a head gear and everything.
Speaker 2: So I was like, here we go.
Speaker 1: And so I started just like throwing hard body shots
Speaker 1: and it got to a point where he could tie
Speaker 1: my punches up where I couldn't even touch them, like
Speaker 1: probably like midway through, like probably thirty seconds in the
Speaker 1: first round, I could not hit him. And I was
Speaker 1: like and then I was so tired, and I was like.
Speaker 2: What he's about wear me out?
Speaker 3: He dropped fifthar b.
Speaker 1: So yeah, when you that is like take a superhero,
Speaker 1: take a super hower when you get to those guys
Speaker 1: next level. All right, so let's talk about this weekend,
Speaker 1: let's review the game or this last week and excuse me,
Speaker 1: let's just do the Philadelphia game. Guys, what are your
Speaker 1: kind of high level start thoughts to start the conversation off,
Speaker 1: We're getting to like offense defense here in second, but
Speaker 1: what are the high level thoughts?
Speaker 6: Well, my first approach when it came to just pregame,
Speaker 6: we were talking about what do you want to see
Speaker 6: from this team.
Speaker 3: I want to see the competitive game. I think I
Speaker 3: got that. You got.
Speaker 6: I literally set up there. It was like, damn, they
Speaker 6: gave me what I want. Then I also added to
Speaker 6: I said made a bit. I want to see the
Speaker 6: game to be so competitive, meaning that at the end
Speaker 6: it's going to be one of those games where the
Speaker 6: best team.
Speaker 3: One play is going to win the game.
Speaker 6: And it was exactly that, And I feel like it
Speaker 6: could have went anyway when it comes to just how
Speaker 6: the outcome, you know, you know went, but from our standpoint,
Speaker 6: that's what you want to see. When you go into
Speaker 6: someone else's home, you know, you can't go in there
Speaker 6: with the mentality because I've been hearing the whole radio
Speaker 6: talking folks who just it's crazy, how up here?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 6: And I've always found this, you know odd, you know
Speaker 6: when it comes to just listening to people who talk
Speaker 6: sports and ready when you're the hometown team, you know, uh,
Speaker 6: you know this jockey or whatever you want to call
Speaker 6: those guys, I find it odd when they talk negative
Speaker 6: about that.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of hate. It's a lot of men.
Speaker 6: It's like after one game, it was already like, oh,
Speaker 6: it's a boat race coming you know.
Speaker 2: It was a bad game, but yeah, I like, how
Speaker 2: do you go.
Speaker 6: Far from I'm feeling this, what's going on. I'm loving
Speaker 6: the energy from this team. And then you know, the
Speaker 6: next regard, it's gonna be a boat race coming up.
Speaker 6: There's no chance to win. So you know, when I'm
Speaker 6: hearing that, I'm saying to myself, this is why I
Speaker 6: didn't listen to this when I was playing the game,
Speaker 6: because like, bro, don't talk. Then if you don't, if
Speaker 6: you ain't got no love, just keep it, you know.
Speaker 1: Because I think that's the thing is I think people
Speaker 1: think that we as football players are like happy when
Speaker 1: we play badly or.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We want to win football game. You don't want to
Speaker 1: put that out there. So it's just like we have
Speaker 1: pride in what we do, and that was it always
Speaker 1: found very frustrating.
Speaker 4: I like that y'all was just talking about boxing because
Speaker 4: that's what I'm compared to. That's what I want to
Speaker 4: see in this game. I want to see a boxing match.
Speaker 4: And I saw what I saw. Sam how go blow
Speaker 4: for blow with Jalen Hurts and say, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm a quarterback that's trying to get on your level
Speaker 4: and I am coming when blow to blow with him.
Speaker 4: I want to see that trench warfare with the offensive,
Speaker 4: live defensive, live both sides.
Speaker 5: I saw some deep charge going to war, blow for
Speaker 5: blow with Jaylen calling, and dude, how about that?
Speaker 2: How about that.
Speaker 4: With Gates cosmic? I saw some war going on in there.
Speaker 4: Then I flipped the page again. Our defensive line gets
Speaker 4: the best office line in FOOTBALLFIC. I saw some brawl fists.
Speaker 4: I saw Mike Tyson abanda, I seen somebody ear get
Speaker 4: bit off. I seen it all all in one match.
Speaker 4: I saw everything I wanted to see. Yes, we came
Speaker 4: up short, but it's like your son when he knocks
Speaker 4: the knock on the door and come in the house, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I got in a fight at the park.
Speaker 5: What happened? I followed him back then I got a
Speaker 5: black eye.
Speaker 4: I'm proud that you you took up for yourself, and
Speaker 4: that's what I felt like the team did nicely.
Speaker 1: In the next kind of segment, is there such thing
Speaker 1: as a moral victory?
Speaker 2: Like how do you feel about it?
Speaker 1: Because like, Okay, you just said you're gonna put your
Speaker 1: thumbs down, but you're proud of them, and I think.
Speaker 4: But I don't believe in more victories because the casino
Speaker 4: ain't giving that more money.
Speaker 5: Like, at the end of the day, you won or
Speaker 5: you lost.
Speaker 4: So now I gotta say this, though, you know, when
Speaker 4: you're playing and you had these games, you more hot
Speaker 4: about the fact that we're.
Speaker 3: Supposed to win these games.
Speaker 4: You ain't thinking about the reverse about yeah we hung
Speaker 4: in there with them, No, man, we gave that game
Speaker 4: and so at the end of the day, we a
Speaker 4: better team than them, and we feel that and we
Speaker 4: can't wait to play you the next time.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not one of those guys that look
Speaker 3: for him as a player.
Speaker 6: You know, as a player, I can see every guy
Speaker 6: in that locker room probably discussed it about how it
Speaker 6: feels today knowing that man, we just went They gave
Speaker 6: us their best shot, and we probably at home, we
Speaker 6: probably got screwed a couple of times from calls. We
Speaker 6: could have easily won. That game could have been in
Speaker 6: our favor. But when I look at it from a
Speaker 6: fan standpoint and a guy who's watching and covering this team,
Speaker 6: and you said it, proud, I'm proud that they went
Speaker 6: out there and play made up for what they showed
Speaker 6: at home. We could go and not only just a team,
Speaker 6: certain individuals, you know what I mean, especially your quarterback.
Speaker 6: When you have a young guy, you know how much
Speaker 6: is you know, determined on his shoulders and his legs,
Speaker 6: everybody you know, and it's like, you know, when you
Speaker 6: watching the game, especially just hearing people talk about or
Speaker 6: comparing them, I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel you. We know that he can play.
Speaker 6: He showed that already, But what can we do as
Speaker 6: an offense that helps him? Because you know, when you
Speaker 6: see a quarterback that has tendencies of doing some.
Speaker 3: Of the things he's shown. Yeah, okay, now we got
Speaker 3: to adjust.
Speaker 6: It might start with the guy who's calling the plays
Speaker 6: I have to adjust and make this offense. I can't
Speaker 6: keep putting him in a situation where I know he's
Speaker 6: gonna be detrimental to itself.
Speaker 3: So I saw that he bat has.
Speaker 6: Been in his backs from from week one, but I
Speaker 6: saw him go a little further and say, let me
Speaker 6: protect them a little differently, but still get to what
Speaker 6: I'm trying to get to him. And that's what I
Speaker 6: love the most about it, because you see the growth,
Speaker 6: you know, as a whole. Yeah, not just from individuals,
Speaker 6: but you saw the guys or who needed the rise rise,
Speaker 6: but you also saw the team play together.
Speaker 4: We saw the bully in the school yard and we
Speaker 4: looked him in the face and we followed him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree, man, I think, like, you know,
Speaker 1: moral victory is a kind of a bad word, especially
Speaker 1: when you're like hyper competitive, and I think the guys
Speaker 1: on the team probably don't feel this, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But when I think about it, I'm like, man, the
Speaker 1: quarterback played well, the offensive line paid better, the running
Speaker 1: game looks solid. Yeah, you got competitive, you got Terry involved,
Speaker 1: you got the coordinator calling like in his bag. Like
Speaker 1: I just remember, like they had a three and out
Speaker 1: and then the next drive, It's like, what's he going
Speaker 1: to come out with?
Speaker 2: Is that a run? You want to be.
Speaker 1: Conservative, is a quick game, little sprint rolls, nice easy
Speaker 1: seven yard completion, sets you up on a nice second
Speaker 1: and three and then you're able to get a first down.
Speaker 1: So I just from an offensive standpoint, I thought there
Speaker 1: was a lot of stuff that maybe said, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 1: And I just think about the composure, man, like the
Speaker 1: composure of the team in that last drive, and I
Speaker 1: was like, it's unbelievable, Like I can't think of since
Speaker 1: I was like when I was playing or what I
Speaker 1: was covering the team, like of just being so confident
Speaker 1: or seeing a group so confident in those moments, you know,
Speaker 1: like not not.
Speaker 4: Make the small mist not make the small mistakes, not
Speaker 4: shoot theyself from the foot, and just continue to grind.
Speaker 5: And I really felt this.
Speaker 4: People will say right now today Philadelphia own paper probably
Speaker 4: one of the best, if not the best. I looked
Speaker 4: at us against I mean, side by side, we got
Speaker 4: as many ath least as they do. Even though it's
Speaker 4: this thing of we represent Alabama christ and title here.
Speaker 4: We got their best for ten years and they got
Speaker 4: George's best. But I saw a team.
Speaker 3: That we matched up.
Speaker 5: We are, like we got as many athletes as they do.
Speaker 6: One of the things that stood out too is just
Speaker 6: remember I remember listening to I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 6: Terry or someone on the offensive side said one thing
Speaker 6: we do we run that two minute drill well in practice.
Speaker 6: And I smiled about it because I remember remember how
Speaker 6: solid we was with call them with the two minute,
Speaker 6: like we got them two many, and we were like open
Speaker 6: the score, like you knew a certain I mean, the
Speaker 6: place was just like that. We knew like, man, when
Speaker 6: I hear you know, we were like, because I gotta
Speaker 6: I gotta be closer to the tight end. So you know,
Speaker 6: I'm playing the gator position, playing the slot, and I
Speaker 6: knew I'm basically not I'm gonna be the one that's
Speaker 6: moving me and the tight end moving you know, left
Speaker 6: and right, everybody else standing in that spots. But I
Speaker 6: was watching them on that drive and I'm like, bro,
Speaker 6: they got that, they got a.
Speaker 3: Bounce and they step.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean that they're confident with every
Speaker 6: play that's being called right now. They know they know
Speaker 6: they can go out and make a play and What
Speaker 6: was surprising to me is that the one that I
Speaker 6: thought could have been an easy touchdown by I think
Speaker 6: it was Curtis.
Speaker 3: When the ball skipped the ground. He threw it quick.
Speaker 6: It was like a slant, I know what catches that
Speaker 6: clean scores. I mean, he can walk in. But the
Speaker 6: guy was a little you know, right there on him.
Speaker 6: But we had one second left and I'm like, man,
Speaker 6: we got lucky on that one because but it was
Speaker 6: great because he threw it quick.
Speaker 3: He made.
Speaker 5: I gotta get least that's.
Speaker 2: In that situation.
Speaker 1: Like games on the line, I think there was five
Speaker 1: seconds after the game when they were running that player.
Speaker 1: Maybe six they bring all out, you know, or six
Speaker 1: man pressure, so he's gotta be hot and you gotta
Speaker 1: get the ball out. And it actually ends up playing
Speaker 1: better for us because they got the more conservative cover
Speaker 1: instructure for the last play and we're able to kind
Speaker 1: of find our best matchup. Do you remember that play
Speaker 1: we used to be called? Uh it was like I'll
Speaker 1: go stop or something like that with Kyle right, and
Speaker 1: you just kind of play like get open in the
Speaker 1: end zone like kind of and find your best matchup.
Speaker 1: So love that, man, I love that there's that confidence.
Speaker 1: I love they were able to bounce back to you.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they couldn't.
Speaker 2: Have played worse last week.
Speaker 1: You know, they couldn't played against the Bills like it
Speaker 1: was a tough game for everybody, and then for them
Speaker 1: to come out and just there's something there, right, there's something.
Speaker 5: I can't gain some respect.
Speaker 3: This is what they did.
Speaker 5: You didn't get a victory, but.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying as a coach, as a guy
Speaker 1: who played like there's something there like that you can't
Speaker 1: define quality to the team. Yeah, that gives you confidence
Speaker 1: moving forward. And I don't know who's responsible. Is that
Speaker 1: Eb is that Sam is that Terry is at the
Speaker 1: leadership whatever it is man.
Speaker 3: A bit of everything.
Speaker 4: I think it's a gumbo. I think it's a little
Speaker 4: bit of everything and this team. But like, listen, this
Speaker 4: team is not afraid of Philadelphia. They proved that the
Speaker 4: last two years. If that's going to be your measurony stick,
Speaker 4: we're not there far off.
Speaker 1: And so I think, like, obviously we feel pretty good
Speaker 1: about what they did offensively because I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of like they were great on third down, great
Speaker 1: in the red zone, there was some creativity in the
Speaker 1: red zone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, b Rob ran hard.
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't maybe the most efficient game for b Rob,
Speaker 1: but he had some physical.
Speaker 5: Runs, had some good runs and then the.
Speaker 1: Old line was physical and you know, like they weren't
Speaker 1: the best, but like there was a lot of.
Speaker 2: Positive stuff offensively. Yeah, the thing.
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of fans are upset about
Speaker 1: today is the third quarter offensively.
Speaker 3: Oh we disappeared.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, what I'm saying is, so I actually just
Speaker 2: went and watching.
Speaker 6: I thought it was bout control by feeling was but
Speaker 6: we so that one drop that I got ride down
Speaker 6: that drive there, I think could have been something that
Speaker 6: we could have put together.
Speaker 1: So what I will say is like outside of the
Speaker 1: third quarter, they were really efficient on third down. The
Speaker 1: offense was and then in the third quarter you have
Speaker 1: a drop by Johann on third and four and you
Speaker 1: have a sack on third and four the next series,
Speaker 1: and so like you just don't get to you don't
Speaker 1: get to play football at that point.
Speaker 3: You talked about it last week all the time.
Speaker 6: I swear I love talking to you guys, because when
Speaker 6: I'm sitting there watching the game, it's not a it's
Speaker 6: not a down that goes by or a series that
Speaker 6: I'm not hearing you guys. You know the things that
Speaker 6: you guys are saying coming up, Like you're talking about defense,
Speaker 6: were talking about when I saw aj Brown line up
Speaker 6: on a little young feller, I'm like, French.
Speaker 3: Of this due accident.
Speaker 6: And then I'm like, I seen the double moves, and
Speaker 6: and me and be missed talking about They said, well,
Speaker 6: you know he's acceptible to you know, double moves, and
Speaker 6: I'm like, it's crazy. It's so much stuff. Watch your
Speaker 6: aggress and then you seeing other teams knowing.
Speaker 3: Clues about certain individuals.
Speaker 6: That's when football goes beyond just the exit rose.
Speaker 3: You got people that's.
Speaker 6: Really studying, studying this game. So what you said that
Speaker 6: was key and I and I had my eyes on that.
Speaker 6: You know, it's about possessing the ball. It's about how
Speaker 6: long can we keep the ball moving, converting on third downs,
Speaker 6: doing what we do. And when I saw that first drive,
Speaker 6: I was like, right there they can. They came out
Speaker 6: to Joab. It's gonna be a long day.
Speaker 5: They had one drive. We had one drive that was the.
Speaker 1: And that's because you're possessing the football, you're converting up
Speaker 1: third down. Yeah, and and so I think like that,
Speaker 1: like when you look at that third quarter, like if
Speaker 1: if you're curious, fans drop on third down, they're sack
Speaker 1: on third down.
Speaker 2: They're both manageable, they're both in third and four.
Speaker 1: So we stay the chin and then I guess you'd say, well,
Speaker 1: maybe like the defense to be able to be a
Speaker 1: little bit stouter. But let's talk about the defense real quick,
Speaker 1: because I think, like you know, Ron talked about Forbes,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of think the defense play. It's
Speaker 1: hard for me to evaluate the defense. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you why. I did the first drive and I go
Speaker 1: through and I'm like, oh, here's a third and eight.
Speaker 1: They converted on a past over the middle of field.
Speaker 1: And I say to myself, like, that's just defense. Like
Speaker 1: there's only a couple opportunities to like win, and if
Speaker 1: you don't win in those situations, it's tough.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It's like it's defense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so the great quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: Fine, yeah, so what I.
Speaker 1: Was gonna say in the first In the first that
Speaker 1: first drive, it's like fourteen plays for them, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think they were okay. I think I think Jack
Speaker 1: likes that he likes long.
Speaker 2: But don't break.
Speaker 1: And then I think when you get to the second half,
Speaker 1: there's just an explosion of a big big that is
Speaker 1: the difference.
Speaker 3: Well, it go to thing about it.
Speaker 4: We watched a Venturan wide receiver school a young cornerback
Speaker 4: on and I was literally watching the game and I'm like, seriously,
Speaker 4: like I'm putting my brain in his in his body
Speaker 4: while I watching the game, and I'm like, all right,
Speaker 4: this is what you gotta learned about a receiver that
Speaker 4: understands that that you are faster than him, you're taller
Speaker 4: than him, you're longer than him.
Speaker 5: He is finna he's finna one up you with this.
Speaker 3: Like he fin up.
Speaker 4: He's finna use your leverage against you. He finna irritate you.
Speaker 4: He's finna run over you. He finish, he finl do
Speaker 4: whatever he can to get you off his game.
Speaker 5: And after like the third catch, I can see Fores
Speaker 5: getting frustrated.
Speaker 4: That's when you gotta really get in your bag and say,
Speaker 4: you know what, I came in here trying to play
Speaker 4: him like a football player. I need to play him
Speaker 4: like a basketball player. I need to shadow him. I
Speaker 4: don't need to catch him. Like after the after the
Speaker 4: second quarter. The first thing I would ask coach is
Speaker 4: I'm pressing I'm to take this route tree, because if
Speaker 4: you playing off a sim yours, he can run every
Speaker 4: route under the tree. If I go press him, it's
Speaker 4: either fade or slant.
Speaker 5: It changes are Let's.
Speaker 1: Talk about that real quick, because they're on the first
Speaker 1: explosive of the second half.
Speaker 2: It's like thirteen thirteen. The clock says thirteen.
Speaker 1: So two minutes into the end of the third quarter
Speaker 1: they run that Tampa tube or that they run that
Speaker 1: fade versus cover two, and Forbes just kind of blaze
Speaker 1: a hand on him in cover two. And if you
Speaker 1: look at Fuller on the other side, right, he's widening
Speaker 1: like u Vante Smith doesn't even get into his route. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I just thought to myself, like there is something
Speaker 1: where again I'm not in the room and you saying
Speaker 1: being physical, like you can't be physical, and all the
Speaker 1: coverages we run here, sometimes you can. Sometimes it's quarter,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's two. Sometimes it's Man, you gotta pick your spots, right,
Speaker 1: You've You've said that on the show before. But what
Speaker 1: I'd say is like, why not in that situation?
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta help, help, gotta help.
Speaker 5: But you gotta be physical in there because the thing
Speaker 5: just rupts the time. What makes Cover two potent is
Speaker 5: the fact that one mas s two, may see with
Speaker 5: three may seem if I re routed you on the outside,
Speaker 5: they gotta throw it inside. Well, we want you to
Speaker 5: throw it. So now that's what he has to understand.
Speaker 5: He came from a man and man thing here.
Speaker 4: You take him, you take him, So he plays he
Speaker 4: I bet he When he hears Covered two, he's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I get it, I get it. Eat a chance to
Speaker 4: go jump and steel.
Speaker 6: If he would wait for something, he looked back like
Speaker 6: I want something underneath right now. But and this this
Speaker 6: is my take on that, because I feel like I
Speaker 6: got re ropped. Gods know who who's a threat. And
Speaker 6: not to say that that aj Brown is not a threat,
Speaker 6: but I don't think Forbes took him as a threat.
Speaker 6: Stretching the field. So he just like he can't beat me,
Speaker 6: run let him run. I got a guy over the
Speaker 6: top and boom, you know what I mean, Jayleen hurts
Speaker 6: hit you with one but the one.
Speaker 3: That's what I was saying.
Speaker 6: I'm no coach or I'm no defensive back. But if
Speaker 6: I got a chance to slow you down knowing I
Speaker 6: got help, I'm gonna be so violent with you right
Speaker 6: now because you going outside, you ain't coming inside, and
Speaker 6: I'm underneath regardless of what you do. So even if
Speaker 6: you say, okay, I don't want to go out there,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go in here. Let you go, because I'm
Speaker 6: gonna play underneath you like I should. So I questioned
Speaker 6: that first play too, and I was going, damn, why
Speaker 6: didn't you just let him fly by like that? And
Speaker 6: then Jalen took advantage of it. They hit him in
Speaker 6: that honey hole, a great hole shot.
Speaker 5: I got a PhD in Cover two playing for Mike Tumbley.
Speaker 2: Oh did you?
Speaker 4: I played for Mike two. We got Mike Tumley the
Speaker 4: head coaching job in Minnesota. We had a top five
Speaker 4: defense in Minnesota. Big Pat William Kevy William a dtacle,
Speaker 4: but he taught me how to play a triangle. And
Speaker 4: the triangle for the corner over here is you go outside,
Speaker 4: I push you outside. I got to come back to
Speaker 4: that point and then I'm attacking here you go inside.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna play flat line. I'm coming here and I'm
Speaker 4: probably gonna have to go out. I need to teach
Speaker 4: for debt mentality. You playing a triangle when you are
Speaker 4: playing cover too. If you can master the player in
Speaker 4: that triangle, you have no wted steps, no waisted steps,
Speaker 4: and you always get the ball down because guess what
Speaker 4: if you a wide receiver, you're trying to get outside
Speaker 4: of me?
Speaker 5: What am I gonna do?
Speaker 3: Push you outside?
Speaker 4: The first thing I'm gonna have to do his run
Speaker 4: back to an angle inside and I'm probably gonna have
Speaker 4: to go down and tackle the running.
Speaker 5: So to play, I'm scratching to play out to.
Speaker 3: The point where I'm bending it to my wheel.
Speaker 1: It's funny when you look at Fuller another clip right
Speaker 1: on the other side, that's kind of how he plays it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: widens him out inside all his back lady. And again
Speaker 1: I think the other thing allows I think it's cam
Speaker 1: or maybe you know it's it's camera forest on that
Speaker 1: to get over the top and be a little bit
Speaker 1: more on they can get their ball and they hold it.
Speaker 3: Well if you really want to look at it. He
Speaker 3: learned a lot, So that was my next question.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like there's that play, there's the the pump,
Speaker 1: the bubble and go right where he was blocking right,
Speaker 1: and then this is a double move. So I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people are really frustrated with Forbes. But
Speaker 1: you know, like it's football, and how would you what
Speaker 1: would you say? What would you say to a fan
Speaker 1: Tanner who's like, man, he's a bus or he's not
Speaker 1: this because I don't see him as a bus.
Speaker 2: Not it's what is this? Fifth game?
Speaker 3: First of all? Fifth game probably the only game he
Speaker 3: really looked like that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: And what I said last week, I said, we have
Speaker 6: to make an inference of stopping the run and everybody
Speaker 6: in the back end, it's where you you keep at
Speaker 6: about to be. You gotta be who you say you
Speaker 6: is right now. So with that being said, I feel
Speaker 6: like our defensive mind. I mean, you could go back
Speaker 6: and watch what I said pregame. I said, our defensive
Speaker 6: back got to come in here with a different mentality
Speaker 6: because it's gonna be on us in the passing game,
Speaker 6: because we want to make sure we dedicate everything we
Speaker 6: got up front to stop and slowing those guys down.
Speaker 6: We don't want to get into one of those matches
Speaker 6: where they just brown them round and pound, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. So our difference ave baction that had
Speaker 6: that mindset. Man look Mino a Mono, two of the
Speaker 6: best in our division. In the league, I feel like
Speaker 6: both of these guys are like top ten in the league,
Speaker 6: not the division. They might be top three in the division.
Speaker 6: We had to talk before Ford being a young guy's
Speaker 6: a lot of things. When you're young and so athletically gifted,
Speaker 6: you're not doing all that stuff he just talked about him.
Speaker 6: He's not playing no triangle, he's not playing no hands
Speaker 6: because he feels like I can make up everything coming
Speaker 6: up with.
Speaker 4: A customer for a custom person. That's what he has
Speaker 4: to understand. He got because he's still writing his book.
Speaker 4: So I'm telling people, is he checked people. He's writing
Speaker 4: a book on every received, but he's checking.
Speaker 2: So you know.
Speaker 1: The other thing I would just point out too, is
Speaker 1: just like these are details, right, These are details of
Speaker 1: playing in the position in Tanna hit it. I think
Speaker 1: on the head pretty pretty closely there is you're a
Speaker 1: young guy from a different, different scheme. You're going against
Speaker 1: guys who are bigger, stronger, faster, and some of the
Speaker 1: stuff you did in college is not gonna work.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I really believe that's one of the reasons Chase struggled
Speaker 1: when he got to the league, like as a rookie
Speaker 1: in terms of understanding what from a past, because like
Speaker 1: the guys are bigger, they're stronger, they're faster, talking about
Speaker 1: developing your little black book. Those offensive linemen are like,
Speaker 1: he doesn't go inside or he does whatever.
Speaker 6: He doesn't have a counter move speed. I shared that
Speaker 6: with y'all about me as a receiver. I didn't watch
Speaker 6: FIM onw guys. I wouldn't watch fias, But when I
Speaker 6: got here, it's still worked for me because I feel
Speaker 6: like being a receiver, my goal was just as long
Speaker 6: as I knew what I had to do.
Speaker 3: I know, man in his own you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I know when it's a you know me and Mono.
Speaker 3: Mono is a man.
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna beat you, you know. And I'm a
Speaker 6: finesse gay. I'm not finishing there, and you know I'm
Speaker 6: not rastling with nobody. So I'm gonna get around you
Speaker 6: and I'm gone. You know, I'm not taking no time,
Speaker 6: not wasting no time. But I feel like it came
Speaker 6: a point in my career when things slowed down on
Speaker 6: my knee injury started piling up when I started that second,
Speaker 6: I got certain. Now I started saying, watch this dude,
Speaker 6: because you know, I was still separating at a you know,
Speaker 6: uh an older age. But it's still I feel like
Speaker 6: in my mind, I can't just go out there and
Speaker 6: just take him for granted, you know, I mean, I
Speaker 6: need to I need to find a you know, something that.
Speaker 3: He does or he doesn't do well.
Speaker 6: So I just feel like he just got to get
Speaker 6: into back to just knowing who to play with and
Speaker 6: who not to, you know what I mean by at
Speaker 6: the same time, still be himself.
Speaker 5: I don't feel reality hit him. All right, welcome to
Speaker 5: the NFL work.
Speaker 3: I said, whoever the NFL.
Speaker 4: Now, the quick part is can he have a true
Speaker 4: dB memory, which is no memory at all and get rid.
Speaker 5: Of because if you watch that game, he almost had,
Speaker 5: like he's always almost.
Speaker 6: When I'm looking at it, when I'm listening to what
Speaker 6: you said, you asked the question, what these fans are
Speaker 6: talking about?
Speaker 3: No, watch the game.
Speaker 6: If you see he got beat what happens in this league,
Speaker 6: then he got a chance to truly cover this guy
Speaker 6: and blanketed them, you know what I mean? A few
Speaker 6: times when he didn't when A J. Brown didn't have
Speaker 6: a double move to use or go in his bag
Speaker 6: and grab. This guy was all over.
Speaker 3: Him, so you have to understand the game.
Speaker 4: And he caught five hitches, he caught five stop routes,
Speaker 4: so they was setting it up, setting it up, setting
Speaker 4: it up, and this when as a player, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I gotta go press him. I'm gonna go take the
Speaker 4: air out of the play and force him to run
Speaker 4: two routes. I'd rather check two routes than ten. And
Speaker 4: that's what pressing does. And I think he should have
Speaker 4: did that because then they can't sit me.
Speaker 3: On a number.
Speaker 4: Because I was like that, you have to say they
Speaker 4: was always trying to sit me up with double moves,
Speaker 4: like that was the way to beat me.
Speaker 5: I took that out of the repertoire by pressing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, in some ways it was good
Speaker 2: that he got beat on the double move. He just
Speaker 2: gave him time to go play again. So maybe you
Speaker 2: did that on purpose.
Speaker 1: But the other thing I just you know, the other
Speaker 1: thing I just say too is like other people protection
Speaker 1: catching a lot of heat. This or the protection the
Speaker 1: past rush is also catching a lot of heat.
Speaker 2: This week. I thought they did it.
Speaker 1: They did some good stuff, but I think as they
Speaker 1: play against different groups, you'll see more production of that.
Speaker 1: All right, so let's talk about this. This is the
Speaker 1: thing that I think is really interesting about this game.
Speaker 1: To go for two or to not go for to?
Speaker 2: That is the question.
Speaker 1: We do that we don't, right, I mean just imagine,
Speaker 1: imagine you know, I'm not We're not second guessing Ron's decision.
Speaker 2: If you're Fred Smoot is the head coachach coach, No,
Speaker 2: you can't take that.
Speaker 5: That's taking His name is coach, prime tat, mine is
Speaker 5: show tat.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a little derivative, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you're kind of like trying to get
Speaker 1: on those comed coach show.
Speaker 2: Coach show, what do you think? All right? So go
Speaker 2: for to, not go for to? You're the coach, you
Speaker 2: got the whistle? What are we doing?
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get out of there. It's Philadelphia. We
Speaker 4: hung in there for four quarters. I don't think I
Speaker 4: can ask my team to go there fifth quarter because
Speaker 4: you know what a fifth quarter do to a team.
Speaker 4: And I just feel like, right then, making they play
Speaker 4: with like one second left, the momentum, we got it.
Speaker 3: It's for you I'm finna go.
Speaker 4: You know what, Fellers, one more play, give me everything
Speaker 4: y'all got for one more play.
Speaker 1: And you said this too, like that's maybe the best
Speaker 1: roster in football. And it's just my experience that when
Speaker 1: you're going up against really good rosters, they and the
Speaker 1: game goes longer, they get better, they tend to win,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They just they're just physically
Speaker 1: better than you. So I'd probably go for two. A
Speaker 1: couple of things. I want to just how about you
Speaker 1: ten them?
Speaker 2: What would you do?
Speaker 3: So I would say this, for what they did, I
Speaker 3: wasn't mad.
Speaker 6: I don't think I was okay with them, you know,
Speaker 6: knocking the field goal and I mean the extra point
Speaker 6: in and and seeing those guys in overtime, because you
Speaker 6: look at overtime, we had a chance. But I would
Speaker 6: say that if you asked me the question, depending on
Speaker 6: what I got in my bag as an offensive play caller,
Speaker 6: I'm asking him, do we got something that they ain't
Speaker 6: seen or wrinkled that we can really get with, And
Speaker 6: we got that, I'm going with it.
Speaker 3: I'm going for it because I just feel like when
Speaker 3: you have the champs or your division on their heels,
Speaker 3: you gotta do it. If you was I was there,
Speaker 3: the stadium was like Chilent they had.
Speaker 6: It's like somebody just stole something from bro. It went
Speaker 6: from I mean it was a packed house. It went
Speaker 6: from these guys with you and drinking their beer and
Speaker 6: singing their little fight song they live, you know, touchdown something,
Speaker 6: and it went just like like you can hear a
Speaker 6: pin drop. So when I got all that riding with me,
Speaker 6: let's go. That's they They shot right now, and the
Speaker 6: defense don't want to go out there another place, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean? You know they not They might
Speaker 6: be ready, but they not like no psychological they're not ready.
Speaker 6: They're like, man, they just gave us they We done
Speaker 6: gave it to them at home, and they just brought
Speaker 6: it back, showed us that, yeah we're not the team
Speaker 6: where y'all thought we were.
Speaker 3: So I probably went for you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's all about home game and away
Speaker 4: game for me because he's away game.
Speaker 5: I'm going for two.
Speaker 1: I think away game, the situation, the way the game
Speaker 1: has been going, I think it all kind of leads
Speaker 1: you there. But I think ten you bring up a
Speaker 1: fantastic point because as an offensive play card you only
Speaker 1: carry usually only carry like two kind of emergency play
Speaker 1: two point conversion plays. And they called one earlier with
Speaker 1: the death sweep. I wonder if they didn't have another
Speaker 1: one that they really liked, you know, or something they
Speaker 1: felt really good about. And so again, you know, if
Speaker 1: you don't have something that you love there, like you
Speaker 1: were saying, let's get on too, let's let's let's play
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 5: We've seen both things play out New York.
Speaker 4: We went for two and everybody was like, well, I
Speaker 4: ain't even go to overtime and that time wouldn't go
Speaker 4: to Yeah, so it's just.
Speaker 6: But then you also remember too, we did this and
Speaker 6: I'm not mistaken that was Atlanta Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I remember that scored a touchdown and then we went
Speaker 3: for two. And we also did this against Tampa Home.
Speaker 3: You wasn't here. I think you was here twenty ten. Yeah,
Speaker 3: was raining, and I scored in that game, went for two.
Speaker 6: So I've been a part of those games when you
Speaker 6: don't do it as a player, you're like, damn, I
Speaker 6: did all that and then we still lose, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. So them, like I said them, if
Speaker 6: you do them, if you don't I think at the
Speaker 6: moment right there, that was that was the call that
Speaker 6: the head coach made.
Speaker 3: You gotta go with it.
Speaker 1: So that leads to the overtime period, which is I
Speaker 1: didn't think it was a bad sequence. But you get
Speaker 1: that ball to Terry, which is a great throw by Sam,
Speaker 1: really really great catch.
Speaker 2: And I don't know the rule, but that was the word.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen it.
Speaker 3: I guarantee it's gonna be talked about this week.
Speaker 5: The foot of our body is part of the field.
Speaker 4: Once his arm hit it and Terry's shoe hit it,
Speaker 4: it's impossible for his shoe to touch the white.
Speaker 3: Line until he goes out of bath.
Speaker 5: Once he did, once he touched flat on that he's in.
Speaker 3: That's a catch.
Speaker 5: I've had the catch happened to me before.
Speaker 3: Really, Yes, yeah, that's a catch. I mean, you gotta
Speaker 3: watch it. Bro.
Speaker 6: It was crazy because you see the guy. I mean,
Speaker 6: they replay it so much and you think that we
Speaker 6: are at their house. They won't Bro the man. It
Speaker 6: was all type of green grass in between them when
Speaker 6: was on him. It wont until he rode to go
Speaker 6: out of bound, go out of bounds, when he touched
Speaker 6: the white.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was a catch, just like the Davante Adams
Speaker 3: catch or no catch. Bro. They showed it so much
Speaker 3: you saw the ball hit the ground.
Speaker 4: But I think it was the initial call. The initial
Speaker 4: car was incomplete. It didn't have enough evidence to over change.
Speaker 4: So I think if the initial car was a catch,
Speaker 4: they would have had enough.
Speaker 6: Home cooking and his finest it was home and look
Speaker 6: we here and it was like, we ain't evenna let
Speaker 6: them go out like this here they gave us fish.
Speaker 6: Don't make it no if he if he called, because
Speaker 6: I don't feel like they gave us anything.
Speaker 2: We we we know we went took it, okay, everyone.
Speaker 2: We had a couple you know, holding call, the defensive
Speaker 2: holding calls that accepted.
Speaker 6: Brown deep that was a pay the post and the
Speaker 6: damn safety had his arm on the ally.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're talking about like defensive or
Speaker 1: referees here, but how about the one where Terry's running
Speaker 1: the post and Sam leaves that sucker high on the
Speaker 1: hash as opposed to.
Speaker 6: And that's what I was saying too, like when you
Speaker 6: take but when you take those shots that those are
Speaker 6: shots that you don't get back. You know, Jerry made
Speaker 6: a statement about you know, you get opportunities, they don't
Speaker 6: come back. That's what I was saying in the game, like, bro,
Speaker 6: we took shots for the first time that I haven't
Speaker 6: seen a lot of shot last year. Yeah, quarterback, while
Speaker 6: you to me, I think when it comes down to
Speaker 6: what Sam has shown us, when it's time to put
Speaker 6: that ball in the air, he's he's pinpoint. He's putting
Speaker 6: it right in your chest. For those deep balls. He
Speaker 6: has to know you got to post just throw it
Speaker 6: to the opposide of the fire. Now I understand too
Speaker 6: that you don't know. You should know because you know
Speaker 6: your quarterback. You're reading and stuff, so you should know
Speaker 6: if it's a safety there or not from reading the
Speaker 6: coast of the coverage.
Speaker 3: He gotta let that thing go on an angle away,
Speaker 3: not this because he just came from over there.
Speaker 6: Why would you throw it that way? And he's going
Speaker 6: is direct, But they go trial and error. He has
Speaker 6: to uh, he has to do it to learn what
Speaker 6: not to do because that was that was the easy touchdown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think about opportunities like that. I think
Speaker 1: about some of the holding calls that extended drives for us,
Speaker 1: you know, and then what Ba's what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: that I feel like it not even out because that
Speaker 1: last call is a big call, but there were there
Speaker 1: were things that lead touchdowns earlier. All Right, this was
Speaker 1: I'm excited for this game because I'm really curious to
Speaker 1: see Ted obviously what you have to say, but Fred's
Speaker 1: just ridiculous reactions here. All Right, So we're doing Commander's
Speaker 1: confidence meter on a scale of one to ten. How
Speaker 1: confident would you be if one of these quarterbacks I'm
Speaker 1: about to I'm about to say, would be your quarterback
Speaker 1: for this upcoming game.
Speaker 5: Okay, so we traded quarterbacks, and you want to know,
Speaker 5: will I take this quarterback?
Speaker 2: It's not even, It's not even.
Speaker 1: It's just like, so like, let's just start with Sam
Speaker 1: how Your confidence in Sam Howell to have a good
Speaker 1: game this week against the Bears?
Speaker 2: Seven seven seven. I think I'm a seven as well,
Speaker 2: seven out of ten. You do you feel? And I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people say, oh, well, what about
Speaker 2: that Buffalo game. I don't care, but you're gonna go
Speaker 2: up and down.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like you've seen some of that composure,
Speaker 1: some of that leadership, and you say and then talent.
Speaker 3: I just feel like also too.
Speaker 6: You know, you have to understand divisional games are different
Speaker 6: from games of teams that you don't really you don't know.
Speaker 6: You know, you know we played them last year, but
Speaker 6: you know, this is a game that you can't just
Speaker 6: say we know what they do. We don't know what
Speaker 6: Chicago's going, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I guess I'm I'm when I'm to that point,
Speaker 1: I'm confident that Sam is going to play at a
Speaker 1: certain level.
Speaker 3: Seven.
Speaker 4: So it's definitely and I want to say this is
Speaker 4: about Sam. I don't think I ever seen them smile yet.
Speaker 4: And I love quarterbacks that don't smile. Ja Hurst, Jalen Hurst,
Speaker 4: don't smile.
Speaker 2: You talking.
Speaker 3: Love married quarterbacks? One minute now he loves them.
Speaker 4: I love married quarterbacks that don't smile. Tom Brady never smile.
Speaker 4: Like one thing about it.
Speaker 5: Is they emotionally like there Like when I look at Sam,
Speaker 5: you can throw a touch down. He ain't smiling, he
Speaker 5: can get sack.
Speaker 2: He just tell you, all right, Okay, So now that's Sam.
Speaker 1: I think I think if you said six at home,
Speaker 1: if you said six, we're on Barbara, six, that's fine.
Speaker 2: You're were relatively confident he's gonna be good. All right.
Speaker 1: Now, let's get to Mac Jones. On a scale of
Speaker 1: one to ten. If Mac Jones was our quarterback this week,
Speaker 1: what is your confidence level that he's gonna do a
Speaker 1: good job? Zero cannot be zero.
Speaker 4: Listen, Mac Jones is through before he even got started.
Speaker 4: Like Matt Jones is one of those guys that he
Speaker 4: just he didn't kick like seven people in the growing
Speaker 4: like he just he's an outlaw right now. Matt Jones
Speaker 4: is just I'm sorry, he's not right now.
Speaker 2: I would probably give him like a three.
Speaker 3: Just don't like. I don't I don't think what we
Speaker 3: do is fitting for him. I think I don't like
Speaker 3: his armscring.
Speaker 2: So you're saying zero, you're saying zero.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm gonna give you some of I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say three.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what you if you said zero for him?
Speaker 2: How about how about Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what Zach performance last night, and I've
Speaker 4: seen this console in him.
Speaker 5: I'm giving Zack one and the hat.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, one and a half because because because
Speaker 1: recency bias zero, Well, I think this is okay zero?
Speaker 2: Why Santana, I just don't like a guy.
Speaker 3: That's confidence. Look shaky, you know.
Speaker 2: I like you said that.
Speaker 6: I look at it like, look, that's what I got.
Speaker 6: Ride with me most of the time. Most of the
Speaker 6: time I will do because of my confidence. Like I
Speaker 6: ain't have no belief in that damn quarterback, but I
Speaker 6: just knew, man, I'm finna be him, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, Like you might have to just throw me.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna cary that my neck, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. But I'm gonna.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna beat you, even though I don't like how
Speaker 6: he throw me the ball. I'm gonna beat you so
Speaker 6: that you the quarterback and you and I'm not I
Speaker 6: can't trust you, trust man.
Speaker 3: Look here, chance all right? Zero?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: So hey, so Tanna is given a couple of girls,
Speaker 1: you give it one and a half. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give him. I'm not as confidence. I'm gonna give him
Speaker 1: a one.
Speaker 2: Okay. There's been Riddle confidence if he was your five five,
Speaker 2: that's a lot. I like Riddle.
Speaker 6: I really just know he's in one of the situations
Speaker 6: where he just haven't had a chance to develop. You know,
Speaker 6: he's forced to play right now.
Speaker 3: He's game.
Speaker 6: It's semi like the kid out there Love in Green Bay.
Speaker 6: They have that game where they can they can beat
Speaker 6: you with their legs. He hasn't nice enough, You don't
Speaker 6: think so.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I think I would.
Speaker 2: I'd be more confident in love. How about you love?
Speaker 3: Give me love?
Speaker 2: Two years ago back, they're gonna be You said they
Speaker 2: were gonna be better with loved quarterback.
Speaker 3: I told you that.
Speaker 5: I told you what.
Speaker 1: Game was that when they won if the Saints, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm Fred's gonna be insufferable, and here you
Speaker 1: are being in something.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what do you got for Riddle? Fred? I
Speaker 2: got a three for Realer three? Okay? Field good, Russell, Wilson,
Speaker 2: what have we got the Governor?
Speaker 3: Give me a six with Russell?
Speaker 2: Six? All right? Six? What you got?
Speaker 3: I like Russell?
Speaker 5: Give me give me a five for the Governor.
Speaker 2: Five.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I'm in that same ballpark six five. For
Speaker 1: some reason, I'm a little more confident in Sam. Maybe
Speaker 1: I've watched it.
Speaker 3: About Russell feels like his confidence.
Speaker 2: Is shot, but it feels like he's getting back.
Speaker 6: He's back to himself a little bit like he's he's
Speaker 6: not back to what he was but go to him, he.
Speaker 3: Still got a damn arm on him.
Speaker 5: Would you go to a restaurant, the restaurant that Russe is.
Speaker 2: Cooking, because I would cooking, all right, Dak Prescott, I.
Speaker 3: Like eight that be sleeping on that. I just don't
Speaker 3: run as much, no more. But that's the problem. But
Speaker 3: I understand that. But that still throws.
Speaker 4: It's a six for deck right now because he ain't
Speaker 4: forced to throw to that defense is winning the game.
Speaker 2: So you're more confident in Sam hell right now for
Speaker 2: what we're doing.
Speaker 4: Yes, because Sam still using his legs. So Sam gets
Speaker 4: us too cheap first downs every game.
Speaker 3: Put that over here, and they not that far apart.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: I like that though, I think, but you think they're close,
Speaker 1: like you think in a couple maybe the end of
Speaker 1: the season they're if you think they.
Speaker 6: Just feel like Sam's already got Like I just feel
Speaker 6: like back at the stage right now where he's older
Speaker 6: and he's wiser because of his injury.
Speaker 3: So he's not doing it, but he can still, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So with our officer line, if he's in that situation
Speaker 6: where he sees that, okay, this pocket is collapsing, he's
Speaker 6: gonna take off a run.
Speaker 3: He's gonna get what he haves to get. So that's
Speaker 3: why I give him an eight, because I know he's
Speaker 3: going to do the right thing with the ball. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't want that priced tag, all right? And then
Speaker 1: we got our last one, Justin Fields. I'm so curious,
Speaker 1: you guys gotta say about this.
Speaker 5: I think Justin Fields is anominally that the team doesn't
Speaker 5: know what to do with. He's I got a five.
Speaker 1: You're you're so he You are more confident in him
Speaker 1: than who I guess. Yeah, you're you're You're even with
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5: So you they just played each other in the game.
Speaker 4: You're even on both meaning on both meaning what have
Speaker 4: youth on his side? The other one got knowledge on his?
Speaker 4: But they But I think the better athlete is Justin Fields.
Speaker 3: Give me a seven. What he's giving out lunch money?
Speaker 2: But he was crushing the earlier guys really, so.
Speaker 3: So tell me who I crushed and I can tell
Speaker 3: you why that he's fit.
Speaker 2: So you gave Russell Wilson a six the sixth.
Speaker 6: Only reason I gave Russell Wills six because I just
Speaker 6: feel like one thing he talked about his confidence, but
Speaker 6: I still feel like Russ still can throw the ball.
Speaker 6: So I'm not sure who the guy he is. Every
Speaker 6: since he been married and you said it, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: give you that one. He said something about married quarterbacks.
Speaker 6: But you know he said something about Russell being married.
Speaker 6: When he got his girlfriend, he became a different rush.
Speaker 6: So you know that's and I'm just this is just.
Speaker 2: This is the deep this is the deep analysis you
Speaker 2: guys are here for.
Speaker 3: We just we just talking married people. I still have
Speaker 3: a little faith in Russell.
Speaker 2: I gave him six.
Speaker 3: Now everybody else I gave.
Speaker 1: Who is Zeroac Wilson and five. I guess you can
Speaker 1: kind of on pace. I don't know, see I probably
Speaker 1: based on how Justin Field played the first three weeks
Speaker 1: of the season, my confidence level was zero.
Speaker 6: My reason my reason for you asked us if his
Speaker 6: coaching is terrible, and I just feel like if you
Speaker 6: watched the Justin fields last year that that coordinated saying, look,
Speaker 6: this is what I got to do with him. I'm
Speaker 6: sure he'd be would do the same thing, and this
Speaker 6: is what I can do with this talent. He has
Speaker 6: a talent of like Semi Mike big type. You know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Why would I be sitting here trying
Speaker 6: to drop him back in the pocket.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's a good point, Like he probably could get a
Speaker 1: little bit more out of him, but just in terms
Speaker 1: of him, in terms of his ability to run like a.
Speaker 2: Like a like an NFL offense, traditional offense. No, it's
Speaker 2: not great, but it's not very high.
Speaker 4: But you cater offense to him, if you're smart offense,
Speaker 4: he would he would be great.
Speaker 3: He'll be great.
Speaker 2: He'd be handed to let me just say this real quick.
Speaker 1: So one of the things I like about his performance
Speaker 1: in the last game, so against Denver, because I thought
Speaker 1: they did a good job of kind of running keepers.
Speaker 1: But instead of running keepers, Kyle used to run him
Speaker 1: where It's like a ball fake back to defense. He's
Speaker 1: running it from the gun, so his eyes are on
Speaker 1: the defense. He can see the rusher, he can get depth,
Speaker 1: hit the guy in the flat, giving him easy throws,
Speaker 1: finding screens, lots of vertical route concepts, so like I'll
Speaker 1: go special all go. He's hitting the seams right because
Speaker 1: people are playing cover three against him, right, they got
Speaker 1: and they're playing cover three. They have to have another
Speaker 1: guy in the box for all the zone read stuff
Speaker 1: they do, so you get these nice seam throws.
Speaker 2: He did a good job.
Speaker 1: Hitting that, and then he did some stuff off schedule,
Speaker 1: so he did kind of to me, that's the formula
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, find easy throws, easy really let him
Speaker 1: rush the football and take advantage of simple coverage structures
Speaker 1: that the defense is a presenting.
Speaker 5: We can only run so much with a run in quarterback,
Speaker 5: you can only.
Speaker 2: Run so much, but also you can.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's something I'm interested about, Like for
Speaker 1: this Thursday night preview is what does Jack do right?
Speaker 1: What does Jack do to kind of bottle him up
Speaker 1: and take away that stuff that they do really well?
Speaker 1: Because Jack has been very very deliberate about not playing
Speaker 1: an ete man box. Even against Philadelphia. I thought they'd
Speaker 1: be in sinco. I thought they'd have everybody in the box.
Speaker 1: He was like, no, no, we're gonna have six guys
Speaker 1: in here. So we're better than you upfront. Like figure
Speaker 1: it out. And so do you do that against a
Speaker 1: quarterback that runs as much as Justin and do you
Speaker 1: stay in this quarter structure or do you say let's
Speaker 1: heat him uplet'sut him underressure.
Speaker 4: But what we say, let's heat him up. I want
Speaker 4: to make his regression speed up. Because if I speed
Speaker 4: him up now, he's going to make mistakes.
Speaker 5: I want him to turn the ball over.
Speaker 4: And the way I make him turn the ball over
Speaker 4: is to let him watch out the feel and watch
Speaker 4: us doing all this non blitzing for him to show
Speaker 4: up Thursday night and me to sik the dolls.
Speaker 3: That's what I like.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: I want to see the hont out to him. I mean,
Speaker 3: you have to make him.
Speaker 6: You have to make him, you know, sweat a little
Speaker 6: more than what he's he's he thinks he's going to get.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about their offensive line and the matchups
Speaker 1: we get. Because one of the things their offensive line
Speaker 1: I think is playing is better than last year. Better,
Speaker 1: but it's not great. They got Darnell right the rookie
Speaker 1: out of Tennessee. We loved him playing right tackle. He's fine,
Speaker 1: you know, good football player, a little bit up and down,
Speaker 1: but you know he's a rookie, rookie. But I think,
Speaker 1: like a guy like Montes, what should be able to
Speaker 1: work on him? I think about what he did against
Speaker 1: Blame Johnson, a lot of people. Lane Johnson is a
Speaker 1: beast dog. Yeah, so then I'd say, well look at
Speaker 1: how he Look what he did against Paris Johnson, and
Speaker 1: Paris Johnson is good, yeah, but I think Montes got
Speaker 1: the better of him, right. Nate Davis is the guy
Speaker 1: they paid a lot of money to from Tennessee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's the guy that remember last year when they
Speaker 1: played Tennessee, John Allen did the hut.
Speaker 2: Move and like literally ejected in the quarterback.
Speaker 1: So even though he's a good football player, Dat Davis,
Speaker 1: we think I think John Allen as his number, right,
Speaker 1: So I guess my point here. And then Patrick Lucas
Speaker 1: is the center. He's a good football player. He's the
Speaker 1: guy that's like a three hundred and fifty pounds center,
Speaker 1: just like I had of a big old guy Cody
Speaker 1: White here. I played with it, I was in Chicago.
Speaker 1: He was a really good football player, right, So I
Speaker 1: think I like that matchup with Payne.
Speaker 2: I played with him.
Speaker 5: Well, he should be old enough for us to beat.
Speaker 1: And then the right tackle is Larry Brohm, who is
Speaker 1: not He's playing fine, but lots of chip help for him,
Speaker 1: and I think Chase could take advantage. So with that
Speaker 1: being said about the offensive line is do we need
Speaker 1: to blitz with that offensive line protecting him?
Speaker 2: Not really, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But what I think, no, to give him a little credit,
Speaker 3: I just understand.
Speaker 2: Don't give I gotta give him a little.
Speaker 3: The truth he tells. He tells on himself a lot.
Speaker 3: He always.
Speaker 6: But I will say this, at times, when you have
Speaker 6: a guy like that who can't just see it, you
Speaker 6: have to make him speed that clock up, and it
Speaker 6: might force him to run a lot, and we don't
Speaker 6: want him to do that. I want to run him back,
Speaker 6: but I want to. I want to make sure you
Speaker 6: bring a couple in there just to get him uneasy. Now,
Speaker 6: not because you know, he gets comfortable and he sit
Speaker 6: back there, he can tell the damn ball. Yeah, you
Speaker 6: gotta make him easy because he's a guy, like I say,
Speaker 6: with a lot of talent.
Speaker 3: And if he gets going, he gets hot.
Speaker 4: Saying Jamie Davis, you're gonna you're gonna, literally you're gonna
Speaker 4: be scaring his dude all day long. Put feels on
Speaker 4: the field like your job all day long. If he
Speaker 4: drops back in the pocket, go get it. If he
Speaker 4: runs side out of the sideline, go get it.
Speaker 5: You the spot for him.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna ask you, have you noticed that about when
Speaker 6: we be playing guys, Now we see those delayed blitzes
Speaker 6: every now and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like that, that's the office alignment. Commit Let them
Speaker 5: do it.
Speaker 6: You've be swinging that linebacker or whoever you got in
Speaker 6: that box around they did.
Speaker 2: They ran those, They ran those really well.
Speaker 1: The Commanders ran those really well against Buffalo actually, and
Speaker 1: then for whatever reason, they didn't run them quite as
Speaker 1: well against Phladelphia. I feel like they were doing something
Speaker 1: with their cadence. Yeah, they kind of got them off
Speaker 1: centered a little bit. But just to give you some
Speaker 1: context on this offensive line, so on pff, they only
Speaker 1: had one dude great above sixty. That's terrible against against
Speaker 1: the Broncos. And the Broncos, as you know, are all
Speaker 1: of our offensive linemen, even though we gave up up
Speaker 1: five sacks, all graded above sixty seven. Yeah, just to
Speaker 1: give you some context. And the one guy who graded
Speaker 1: above sixty was Darnel right, who graded sixty point five.
Speaker 2: So to me, I'm like saying, you guys want to
Speaker 2: bring pressure, we can beat him up front.
Speaker 1: What if we just disguise what we're doing in the
Speaker 1: back end and confuse him from a coverage shelf standpoint,
Speaker 1: you know, And just because I think one of the
Speaker 1: things that the Denver did is they were like, here,
Speaker 1: here's cover three, bro throw you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: what if it looks like cover three, we roll to
Speaker 1: cover four and.
Speaker 5: He threw four touchdown?
Speaker 4: They have to think about it is they're trying to
Speaker 4: figure out what he does well in this offense, and
Speaker 4: they learned it on the run like the rest of us.
Speaker 4: That's why I want to light him up. I want
Speaker 4: I want him running, but like I want him running backwards.
Speaker 3: I don't want him.
Speaker 4: Running full because once he started to run full fast,
Speaker 4: he become dangerous to us.
Speaker 2: He's very very fast.
Speaker 1: So so if I was Jack based off last week,
Speaker 1: based off the Denver game, yeah, I'm saying I think
Speaker 1: we go with our front four. Yeah, I think if
Speaker 1: we have a plan for the keepers, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: all right, Like attack the quarterback, take away those flat coverages.
Speaker 1: And I'm really glad he brought that up because that's
Speaker 1: the next point. Best person in their offense is probably
Speaker 1: DJ Orale. Right, Yeah, what's the match up there? How
Speaker 1: do you contain him? Because I really think if you
Speaker 1: can contain fields, you contain him Because would you say,
Speaker 1: what do you always say? You're a prisoner of your quarterback, right,
Speaker 1: So I want to put that quarterback in prison so
Speaker 1: that he can't get the ball to the best player.
Speaker 2: They know that.
Speaker 5: Why, That's why I want to light him up.
Speaker 4: You are prisoner to him and DJ Moore is the
Speaker 4: key to unlocking the offense. You take him out the game,
Speaker 4: you're good, but you can't run two man under because
Speaker 4: you can't turn your back to a running quarterback. You're
Speaker 4: gonna have to figure out how you're gonna take him away.
Speaker 2: Would you run? Would you? Would you want to run
Speaker 2: two man under to him?
Speaker 4: No? I can't run two man under to him, but
Speaker 4: I can do I can do some cover six where
Speaker 4: we run a cover four to the side that he on,
Speaker 4: a cover two to the side that j which which
Speaker 4: we run a lot we can flip the opposite side.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he's a guy that I think is really interesting.
Speaker 1: Khalil Khalil Herbert is that his name? Yeah, running back,
Speaker 1: he can run. He's a bigger body guy. Kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me of Connor.
Speaker 3: From the other kid to the head Montgomery Montgomery.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and he's one of those stocky backs, stocky backs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't scare you from like an explosive play standpoint,
Speaker 1: but is a consistent downhill runner. Yeah, you gotta tackle,
Speaker 1: you gotta tackle him. So I think that's something you
Speaker 1: gotta account for. The question is what do the Bears
Speaker 1: do wale what like let that, let that, let let
Speaker 1: that silence fill, yet let that silence fail.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's literally like literally it was the last this weekend.
Speaker 1: It was the first time that they showed any sign
Speaker 1: of offensive.
Speaker 2: Line prior to that. It was it was hard.
Speaker 1: It was hard, hard to watch with because it wasn't
Speaker 1: even like, oh Justin hasn't seen it, Like Justin wasn't
Speaker 1: seeing them some stuff. But there's concepts that were bad.
Speaker 1: The protection was bad. So maybe they figured it out.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is the formula. I don't know, but there's
Speaker 1: not a lot they do well. We just highlighted some
Speaker 1: of the playmakers that you're gonna have to contend with.
Speaker 1: In terms of receivers. They got Ecuonymi of the same brown,
Speaker 1: a guy that I like. But it's not like the
Speaker 1: switch from Yeah, Kemp, Kemp is the tight end from
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: That is that right.
Speaker 1: He's a solid player. So that's kind of what we're saying.
Speaker 1: Sub sub average offensive line. Yeah, okay, skill positions and
Speaker 1: a young quarterback who's figuring out. This should be a
Speaker 1: game that the defense you want to see a dominant defense.
Speaker 1: You want to see the defensive line be dominant. This
Speaker 1: feels to me the game like the game that should
Speaker 1: be the only thing the Bears really do.
Speaker 2: Ellis say, you're gonna say some crazy the defense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they used to be, but now they know him
Speaker 5: for like finding honey and finding salmon.
Speaker 4: And screens and stuff like that. Other than that, these
Speaker 4: Bears do nothing. Maybe the Yogi bear and they still
Speaker 4: picnic masst. I don't know, but I'm right, I'm with
Speaker 4: you to the point where I don't know what they do.
Speaker 4: They haven't showed us.
Speaker 5: Stay out.
Speaker 2: Gosh.
Speaker 1: And so you mentioned the defense and what they do, well,
Speaker 1: there's nobody don't. I'm looking at their defensive roster right now,
Speaker 1: and this is not a good way to do this.
Speaker 1: This is not a good way to scout. But there's
Speaker 1: not one name on here that you're like, oh that guy,
Speaker 1: Ada Jackson hurt he has hurt.
Speaker 2: Tremaine Edmunds they paid a lot of money to. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know he's playing t J. Edwards.
Speaker 1: Those are the two names that they paid a lot
Speaker 1: of money to this offseason. But in terms of building
Speaker 1: your team, I don't think there's a dumber thing to
Speaker 1: do than paying middle linebacker a lot of money, thank you,
Speaker 1: Because unless he's special and he's the easiest guy in
Speaker 1: the defense to manipulate, yeah, he's the easiest guy to
Speaker 1: take advantag if he doesn't have a defensive line, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have the secondary, which they don't, we should be
Speaker 1: able to take advantage Barbecue. We're not saying look past
Speaker 1: the Bears because I can't. But there there's a this
Speaker 1: is a roster Bears that we should be able to dominate.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, Like what do you think.
Speaker 2: I'm with you?
Speaker 3: Throw? You did a spot on but one of the
Speaker 3: things that we know that you just can't.
Speaker 6: I can't come in there with that kind of man
Speaker 6: like even though we feel like on paper you look
Speaker 6: at them, they should dominate. As as a player, I
Speaker 6: never looked at my opponent as a easy you know,
Speaker 6: easy walking apart. I always took it like man, he
Speaker 6: can come my hend and embarrass me, so he can
Speaker 6: turn to embarrass him from from from from the start
Speaker 6: of the whistley.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's almost what happened this weekend with h Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: you know, with what you call it with the with
Speaker 1: the Broncos. That roster is a better roster than the Bears.
Speaker 1: And the Bears gave him everything they can handle. And
Speaker 1: so you don't want them coming out with some trick plays, explosives,
Speaker 1: finding some some creases in our defense.
Speaker 3: One player to get to lose right now. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: that's a dangerous man.
Speaker 6: Or for you come you're on Thursday night. Thursday night, man,
Speaker 6: you're gonna come up with the stop.
Speaker 5: No I drive.
Speaker 4: Like when I'm driving on the highway, I can always
Speaker 4: tell the dude in the regular car with nothing to.
Speaker 2: Loose, it's all banged up.
Speaker 5: I am afraid it's dupe.
Speaker 6: I don't have putting in on the little road raised
Speaker 6: accident or incidents. And I see the lady over there
Speaker 6: and she's like, and I'm like, you know what, right, I'm.
Speaker 5: Gonna keep them because they are dangerous.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep myself over here. The lord nos, I
Speaker 3: want to cush you out but guess what you win.
Speaker 1: So one thing I want to ask you guys before
Speaker 1: we move on to our next segment with our special guests, Yes,
Speaker 1: is two things. One we gotta do your predictions. The
Speaker 1: other thing I want to ask you is how does
Speaker 1: this game with Philadelphia emotionally impact this Thursday night game.
Speaker 5: I think it's good that we're playing a game so
Speaker 5: quick and now you get to turn the page?
Speaker 3: Are you linger?
Speaker 1: Are you emotionally still? Like, man, are you thinking about philadelphiaself?
Speaker 3: No? No, no, it's over, it's over with.
Speaker 4: But you've been if we got to turn the page
Speaker 4: because we got savent to hour was before I next
Speaker 4: game I ended to think about it is it doesn't
Speaker 4: give me chance to like literally so on myself, just
Speaker 4: lose myself because I have to focus on.
Speaker 5: Ay, whatever plays I didn't make last game, I.
Speaker 1: Got to make them against the base. Well, So that's
Speaker 1: what I want to hear, just because we've been we've
Speaker 1: been a part of teams and maybe you don't consciously
Speaker 1: think about this where it's a it's a tough game.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a good example where it's
Speaker 1: like it's close, it's a slug fest, and then you
Speaker 1: are not as emotion like, nothing's different in your mind,
Speaker 1: but you're not physically and emotionally as up as you
Speaker 1: need to be for the next one, just because that
Speaker 1: last one was so tough.
Speaker 2: It's like you're still fatigued kind of from that.
Speaker 3: You're running on funes.
Speaker 2: Well, and I know you've had I know you've been
Speaker 2: in games like that.
Speaker 6: I know you've been in games where I was disappointed
Speaker 6: with myself, so it was I couldn't wait to play again,
Speaker 6: and this is the game, and they have I never
Speaker 6: had a game where I came off a game where
Speaker 6: we should have won and then we had to wait.
Speaker 6: We had two days before the game, so they have
Speaker 6: a Thursday night game, So this is this is perfect time.
Speaker 2: You like Thursday night games.
Speaker 3: Told you that, remember that, I love that. I hate
Speaker 3: them because I just feel like we got a short
Speaker 3: little mini weekend. We're going and dominate these dudes. And
Speaker 3: how he worried about it. I ain't nowhere right here,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 6: I'm I ain't take to watch college football. Yeah, but
Speaker 6: I'm like, we're still here. It ain't no vacation. But
Speaker 6: I'm just saying far as I love to play now.
Speaker 6: I hated the practice part of it.
Speaker 3: Like to play.
Speaker 6: So when you're coming off that emotional roller coaster that
Speaker 6: they just went through, they're not they're not devastated by that.
Speaker 3: You they mad for that little short period of time.
Speaker 3: But they went home and lay on them laid on.
Speaker 6: Them pillars last night, like we could have beat there.
Speaker 6: We got something to feel good about. And now in
Speaker 6: practice that tempo that that.
Speaker 4: Because it's like now list the official treat the team
Speaker 4: that we're supposed to be like the teams were supposed
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 2: That's the big thing, all right. So let's do game
Speaker 2: predictions real quick.
Speaker 3: So you start.
Speaker 4: Against the Bears, and I will say, I'm looking for
Speaker 4: an outburst by the airwolf young Sam Howe. I'm looking
Speaker 4: for him to go down the field. I'm looking for
Speaker 4: a great game for my two outside receivers. I'm looking
Speaker 4: for Dotson and mclran to have those type games. It'll
Speaker 4: be the first game this year they both go over
Speaker 4: one hundred yards as a pair. I am going Washington
Speaker 4: thirty three because we've been in the thirties to the Bears.
Speaker 3: Ten tension on my mind.
Speaker 2: Do we have to spread somewhere?
Speaker 3: Yeah? We are seven point favorites. Six seven points.
Speaker 6: I go, I think this is a game where you
Speaker 6: take advantage of getting getting those guys in the backfield
Speaker 6: a little more acclimated to this offense.
Speaker 3: You see every week.
Speaker 6: We've been doing better with you know, getting Brown, I mean,
Speaker 6: getting robertson the ball, getting a g the ball. So
Speaker 6: I think our running game kind of wakes up this
Speaker 6: thirsty you know, we go out there and take it
Speaker 6: to him a little bit, and you don't have to
Speaker 6: worry about using Sam that much. And now that opens
Speaker 6: which people. You know, Logan always said we don't need
Speaker 6: to run to open our past because we passed automatically.
Speaker 3: Out the gate.
Speaker 6: But I do believe that with the run game, we
Speaker 6: control the ball, control the cop twenty eight points. I
Speaker 6: get a Bells fourteen. I think they want those teams
Speaker 6: that they're going to score. You know, they have too many.
Speaker 3: I know I can't say too.
Speaker 6: Many, but they have two special guys on offense that
Speaker 6: I feel like, I think highly up that can you know,
Speaker 6: you know, make something happen.
Speaker 2: But I say twenty eight fourteen, yeah, because I mean
Speaker 2: I think they can go the other way. I think
Speaker 2: the rushing okay, I like that. I that feels good
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say twenty eight twenty is what I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: because I think I think that Chicago's gonna come out.
Speaker 3: They're gonna be feisty.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be feisty, right, They're gonna have a little
Speaker 1: bit of confidence after last week. I think they think
Speaker 1: they got a formula four fields hopefully. Jack says, no,
Speaker 1: thank you. It's ten to ten to thirty, Like you said, Fred,
Speaker 1: I think that's very reasonable. But I think I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say, play play the percentages. They're gonna come out
Speaker 1: there an NFL team.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, they just lost a close one to Denver
Speaker 4: and now four days later they got to come to Washington.
Speaker 5: I just think it's gonna take its toll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, all right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're hoping for a good game and me
Speaker 1: get to w all right. So now our special guests
Speaker 1: a p Anna pop culture consultant and commentator anything pop culture.
Speaker 1: That's why you're here. And we don't like to talk
Speaker 1: about pop culture, but now it's becoming like a thing.
Speaker 1: And I know now that's why you're here. It's becoming
Speaker 1: a thing.
Speaker 3: That's why what's your gat for is this weekend?
Speaker 7: Well, I was first going to say, I feel like
Speaker 7: you could write a dissertation about Taylor Swift being in
Speaker 7: the sports world, celebrities in the sports world. Things are changing,
Speaker 7: this is.
Speaker 2: So what it's like. So you say things are changing,
Speaker 2: and what is changing? You think that?
Speaker 1: I think that, like, because I think about this is
Speaker 1: kind of like a fallback into normalcy, right, because I
Speaker 1: was from I grew up in l a, right, and
Speaker 1: everyone would go to the LA games.
Speaker 2: All time, the Lakers games. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd be there, So this feels I don't normal
Speaker 1: And the game was in New York, so like, why
Speaker 1: not come out for the game in New York? I
Speaker 1: don't know, what do you think?
Speaker 7: No, I think that seems pretty explanable.
Speaker 4: I think think the actors and the entertainers are using
Speaker 4: their sports platform.
Speaker 5: Is a is a whole nother spring Boy.
Speaker 4: I think Drake and Lil Wayne showed them if you
Speaker 4: interact with sports, it pays you more than that, because
Speaker 4: come on, we had Ryan Reynolds dead aka Deadpool, we
Speaker 4: had Wolverine and a half, we had everybody.
Speaker 1: In you.
Speaker 2: So so and who is the most surprising celebrity.
Speaker 3: That was there. Oh I was.
Speaker 7: I mean I was surprised to see.
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds, Sir, I see to me, Hugh Jackman, Like
Speaker 1: he's not even American, he doesn't like football.
Speaker 7: Okay, he's more Actually, he would be more surprising than
Speaker 7: Ryan Reynolds. Bryan Reynolds and Lively are like best friends
Speaker 7: with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: That's why you tuned in.
Speaker 7: Jason over here is saying, oh, this is a PR stunt. Oh,
Speaker 7: this is a PR stunt. I don't think it is.
Speaker 3: I mean it is a best friend, the best friends.
Speaker 7: Right, But if you have a friend who plays for
Speaker 7: a professional sports team, wouldn't you utilize.
Speaker 2: Them to also you look at it, but they don't
Speaker 2: have a friend. Taylor Swift supposedly, supposedly.
Speaker 3: Swift a friend.
Speaker 6: Her friends know that what tellis swift friends are actors rights.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I love.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be seen at a football game that
Speaker 3: tennis Swift has so many people putting their eyes right now.
Speaker 3: You know her and Kelsey, the talks that we're gonna
Speaker 3: be to talk to.
Speaker 4: She got a Kelsey I want one to That's what
Speaker 4: the women saying did her friends look at look at
Speaker 4: what sports is doing for her?
Speaker 5: So all the NFL football plays they looking about trying
Speaker 5: to find that. Why ain't nobody talking about the.
Speaker 4: Fact that O b J and Kim Kardashian seemed to
Speaker 4: be starting a relationship.
Speaker 5: But we're being flooded about that.
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 3: Hanging out?
Speaker 2: Evanna hasn't heard it. We're not gonna of course things
Speaker 2: were coming back.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, next time I'm back on confirm. Okay, I
Speaker 7: think it's a big deal that you're seeing this. Maybe
Speaker 7: I never noticed this, but it's all over news people
Speaker 7: TMZ like seeing so much of sports there now.
Speaker 3: And it's like it's like cross because they found out
Speaker 3: that we we are American sport. We like football. The
Speaker 3: NFL has the best thing.
Speaker 5: On TV, running reality shows.
Speaker 3: That's what everybody tuning the around his time in the year.
Speaker 3: We need to be a part of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, well, I think it's also it's I mean,
Speaker 1: this is this. The more this goes on, the less
Speaker 1: I think this is a real relationship, because it's like
Speaker 1: because on the TMZ stuff, the football, the football is
Speaker 1: getting a ton of pub and we're bringing people to
Speaker 1: the party, right and I think that's the whole point, right,
Speaker 1: It's like I can't. And then ESPN is bringing stuff
Speaker 1: to the media side, like we're talking about Hugh Jackman
Speaker 1: right now for.
Speaker 5: And guess what the game that they put on with
Speaker 5: the toy store. Oh yeah, well to riffat.
Speaker 2: It's all twenty two.
Speaker 4: It was so good that all of the football fans
Speaker 4: are begging to have it weekly with every game so
Speaker 4: they kids can watch the game.
Speaker 1: But it's the thing, it is, it's all twenty two,
Speaker 1: so you actually get a better feel for the plays.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh, so you're watching it from how we watched
Speaker 6: all Yeah, but they like cartoon, wasn't it was it
Speaker 6: not like no no noise, no sound, no sounds, explosion
Speaker 6: play like.
Speaker 4: It was just it was like if you had a
Speaker 4: young child, Like most people said, I could not get
Speaker 4: my child from in front of the TV watching it.
Speaker 4: And that was the first time I could watch a
Speaker 4: game with my child and they watched every play. So
Speaker 4: I think the NFL blew it out, blew it out
Speaker 4: the water so much that NBA gonna have to do it,
Speaker 4: Hockey gonna have to do it. It's gonna record it.
Speaker 4: They have recorded know, Yeah, you can watch.
Speaker 2: It's like I think it's on Disney Plus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's live. They live screaming at the same
Speaker 3: time as the game.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so Anna. Also, let's talk about Mama
Speaker 2: Kelsey real quick. How about that?
Speaker 7: What do we get so interesting? I think, well, it's
Speaker 7: Jake from State Farm.
Speaker 1: Yes, they can just basically get like a free all
Speaker 1: state commercial. Right, Yes it's State Farm. Sorry, it all stay,
Speaker 1: but you know.
Speaker 3: He got it.
Speaker 4: He got a commercial with Pat Mahomes already with State Farm.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: So yeah, So is that Do you think that they
Speaker 2: paid to sit next to her? You think they did that?
Speaker 7: But I think, well, to just bring it back to
Speaker 7: Taylor Swift argument, I think you could say it's less
Speaker 7: and less real. But I think both of them have
Speaker 7: nothing to lose. They're both so successful. There's nothing to lose,
Speaker 7: and there's you keep staying a little. Well the NFL can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're winning.
Speaker 1: I mean Kelsey can't personally could lose because it's like
Speaker 1: if it affects his performance on the field.
Speaker 5: He can only lose if he cheats on her in
Speaker 5: the Swift Swift Nation, what do you think.
Speaker 7: Is that, Oh, they'll come after, it'll be indeed, she.
Speaker 5: Gonna drop the album eighty seven Ways to Break My Heart.
Speaker 2: She's not a country singer.
Speaker 7: Though she's crazy.
Speaker 3: No, she is a your singer is food.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do we got? Let's let's what we got?
Speaker 7: Oh okay, well, Jason wanted me to go through the
Speaker 7: full list.
Speaker 2: Let's hear it.
Speaker 7: And I feel like we covered a lot of them, right,
Speaker 7: just read a lively Hugh Jackman, Sophie Turner, Paul Rudd,
Speaker 7: Serena Carpenter basically have half the Marvel universe. Gosh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: Sophie Turner.
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe it was in New York doing something, doing
Speaker 6: some on their own too, you know, I mean New
Speaker 6: York seems like a.
Speaker 2: Spot where people live.
Speaker 7: I mean a lot of them are there, so it's
Speaker 7: just a little bit easier. I don't think you'll see
Speaker 7: any of them in Kansas City, except for Paul Rudd's there.
Speaker 2: He lives in Kansas City.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think he lives there. I think he's
Speaker 7: just a fan.
Speaker 2: Right, So that was now, you know, like we had
Speaker 2: to give we got one more?
Speaker 5: One more?
Speaker 7: Well, oh well, yeah, I do have one more. Basically,
Speaker 7: if you could bring a celebrity any football game.
Speaker 2: Who would you bring to up my what's the goal
Speaker 2: of bringing the say?
Speaker 5: Am I bringing like somebody I want to date? Am
Speaker 5: I bringing just a celebrity?
Speaker 2: Let's let's go.
Speaker 7: Let's go with the publicity. Along the publicity line of things,
Speaker 7: I would probably who's.
Speaker 2: The most famous person that you know?
Speaker 5: I would probably bring?
Speaker 2: Do I have to really know?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no no no, I'm saying, but like he's like,
Speaker 2: you like to.
Speaker 3: Me, that's that's in your phone right now that you
Speaker 3: probably can call And I can tell.
Speaker 5: Matthew McConaughey meet me at the game.
Speaker 2: When do he come?
Speaker 5: He's a Washington fan.
Speaker 2: Give your phone right now.
Speaker 5: You want me to call him right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the type of he's a type of man.
Speaker 2: Can you hear me? Service?
Speaker 3: But he's he don't he came, he comes.
Speaker 2: He's like a fan. Yeah, So that's kind of cheating.
Speaker 3: Always.
Speaker 5: I would love I would love to bring like Cardi B.
Speaker 2: With me to the game as a date.
Speaker 3: He ain't come with you, damn, I know she got
Speaker 3: off while she won't.
Speaker 5: Who would you bring, mister l A.
Speaker 1: I cannot bring a female. But if I was going
Speaker 1: to bring somebody, I don't even know like someone famous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like you would show it with like
Speaker 5: Chris Hamworth and he make smile.
Speaker 2: That'd be pretty I would make Chris himms with her
Speaker 2: tiny funny story.
Speaker 1: No, no, you would because think about this. He weighs
Speaker 1: two fifteen, right, yeah, I weigh two seventy and it
Speaker 1: ain't it ain't breing it out, not the same as him.
Speaker 1: But he's got like he's a slighter guy than me.
Speaker 1: So like people will look at us together and be like, look, yeah,
Speaker 1: you look like a fat guy.
Speaker 2: Right, So that's that. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I get probably bring like a who was the guy
Speaker 1: that came and talked to us, the politician guy? It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter it was, but something like no, definitely not Peter.
Speaker 1: I don't know enough celebrities to even like to play
Speaker 1: this game. But like the person the person I would
Speaker 1: bring would be Taylor Swift because it would just be
Speaker 1: like who is like why yeah, why is she with
Speaker 1: tight ends?
Speaker 2: And why is she with this guy who's married? Why
Speaker 2: is what's going on?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I really don't know, you know,
Speaker 3: I know nothing but rappers.
Speaker 2: I know the best rapper you bring, he'll bring Rick
Speaker 2: Rose Waiting.
Speaker 6: I got to bring the whole crew of Miami rap
Speaker 6: as I know, me floor floor Rider, Rick Ross, Trick, Daddy, them,
Speaker 6: the guys I kind of like like I can like
Speaker 6: literally call them or probably one of my newer rapper friends,
Speaker 6: Cam run I probably. I think I think Cam gonna
Speaker 6: come killing Cam gonna come killing Cam come even though
Speaker 6: d C did them wrong last time he was up there.
Speaker 2: You know, you know what I bring. I just thought
Speaker 2: about it. Bring Litel messy to a football game. That's
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm saying. Huge, and to be
Speaker 2: had over. You'd bring Beyonce over Taylor Swift Swift.
Speaker 7: I love Taylor, but I feel like if Taylor's off
Speaker 7: the table.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: See, y'all went from saying who y'all would bring on this? Somebody?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, because I don't know anybody. You if you
Speaker 1: can bring anybody, if you can bring anybody, would anybody
Speaker 1: Barack Obama? Hell that that would be pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Resident did it with me? I'm here. Anybody they are lie?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Come on, you can't be bringing Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2: Come on?
Speaker 3: Anybody?
Speaker 2: Who who? See who? I want to go for it.
Speaker 2: I'm just serious, to hear Tupac, that would be said,
Speaker 2: that would be called Parker.
Speaker 3: But Parker said, the whole damn stadium.
Speaker 5: You won't even be there.
Speaker 3: It won't be no. Just imagine if Tupac was still
Speaker 3: living right now.
Speaker 2: Well imagine if Tupac came back from the dead and
Speaker 2: came to the game.
Speaker 5: Like, say, you've been in Jamaica.
Speaker 3: And you saw.
Speaker 5: Today, I see I was in there getting called you.
Speaker 6: But you know, it's just funny to me, like, just
Speaker 6: see how much time has passed since Tupaca and Biggi's
Speaker 6: death and how the how the music, and just picture
Speaker 6: those guys now as the start they was then, Like
Speaker 6: say they started, never dropped the biggest they were then.
Speaker 3: Now the world has changed so much. Guy, they would
Speaker 3: be bigger than life.
Speaker 5: If never that, we might not have the bird for
Speaker 5: jay Z.
Speaker 3: This this the wade. No good both of those guys.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Okay, one last question for Anna. At the next big game,
Speaker 1: next Monday night game, what celebrity do you want to
Speaker 1: see there? You're like, man, that's a surprise. I'd love
Speaker 1: to see them watching football.
Speaker 5: Oh the Steward.
Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 1: But he goes to the USC games all the time,
Speaker 1: but goes to Pittsburgh steeal a game he was supposed to.
Speaker 7: Well, everybody keeps saying, Snoop dog is gonna come to.
Speaker 2: Boulder already does I got a funny, stupid sorry you
Speaker 2: want to hear it. So when we were when I
Speaker 2: was in Houston, we played at the l A.
Speaker 3: L A.
Speaker 1: Chargers when they were playing at like the home depot field,
Speaker 1: and so he's all there and fully decked out in
Speaker 1: his Chargers gear. And we beat the Chargers and we're
Speaker 1: in the locker room after the game, and this dude
Speaker 1: walks in in full Houston gear and it's like celebrating
Speaker 1: with us, like you know what I'm saying, like switch
Speaker 1: switches stuff came in and everyone's Snoop and everyone has
Speaker 1: seen him like on the Jumbo Tron, Like come.
Speaker 3: Here, story. I got a story about Smooth. I mean
Speaker 3: Snoop too. I talked about Smooth. Yeah, Snoop.
Speaker 6: We had just beat Florida State my senior year in college.
Speaker 6: Were on the high I'm talking about. You can just
Speaker 6: imagine that bus riding back to you know, to our
Speaker 6: campus and we just sitting there talking about, you know,
Speaker 6: all the players and well, I'm going here, We're going there,
Speaker 6: and I get out the car, I get out the bus,
Speaker 6: and I'm getting ready to go and get into my
Speaker 6: car and so I can go home. And these dudes
Speaker 6: just jump out of this damn like back then it
Speaker 6: was it wasn't called a sprinter sprint of man. And
Speaker 6: they got a number six jersey, like, hey, you got
Speaker 6: tickets to the Upper Smoke concert.
Speaker 3: You know, Snooping Town sign this jersey wear to night
Speaker 3: on stage.
Speaker 6: I didn't get a chance to meet him, but just
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, you know what I'm saying, I signed
Speaker 6: a jersey that I'm like, I wasn't going to no
Speaker 6: concert after that game, So you know what?
Speaker 7: You have one last question for Santana Being from Miami,
Speaker 7: have you ever met Pipple mister worldwide?
Speaker 3: You've been around people like, I know, I never went
Speaker 3: up to him and just say what's up?
Speaker 2: Because because you're so I forget that. You're like like
Speaker 2: kind of like legit famous.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, stand something like I'm
Speaker 6: one of those guys I've been around.
Speaker 3: Look, I've been around folks more than I've met him.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You kind of running that circle.
Speaker 6: I'm not big on introducing myself to people or because
Speaker 6: normally when I meet somebody and they know me, like
Speaker 6: like we was at the game yesterday, me and be
Speaker 6: Mitch and Hugh Douglas walk up.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. You know you play for
Speaker 3: the you know Philly, and so I go up to Yeah,
Speaker 3: I go up to him. I say, what's up? Man?
Speaker 3: I know you man, but I don't know.
Speaker 6: So, you know, I'm just you know, I'm one of
Speaker 6: those guys like that around everybody. But I've been around
Speaker 6: them all.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I was sending the cut
Speaker 3: and won't even say nothing. But I saw you and
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that.
Speaker 5: See he met it man, my guy too.
Speaker 4: Yeah I didn't. I had good conversations. Just interviewed them
Speaker 4: a week ago. Again, Yeah, definitely for my podcast with
Speaker 4: me Mar's Chance Nothing Joe Cina and see he.
Speaker 6: Had a podcast with mart They women love it.
Speaker 3: But but but you want to bring him to the game.
Speaker 4: You That's why I bring Morris Left to the game,
Speaker 4: because he a Philadelphia fan.
Speaker 3: All he would talk about is Philadelphia.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, I'm so sorry. One more I promised Okayanna
Speaker 7: is a big deal, and I regognized Fred had a
Speaker 7: little a funny moment regarding somebody maybe thinking you were
Speaker 7: oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Somebody walked up to me in the first game of
Speaker 4: the year because all the fans was back.
Speaker 5: It was like, hey, Santana Moss. So I started to
Speaker 5: look around me and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 5: I want them to be happy, and they were like,
Speaker 5: sign my up jersey.
Speaker 4: I'm like, no proper signed in Santana Moss and they
Speaker 4: walked away half a skipping.
Speaker 1: Do you think they know that it's not his autography.
Speaker 1: I don't even got a beard, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Do you think that they don't know? They they upset
Speaker 3: the really really auto email just don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you have a picture of what your autograph look like? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, like we got it. We got a signature.
Speaker 1: So if if if someone signed your jersey and it
Speaker 1: looks like this, yeah, it's not really it's actually Fred.
Speaker 2: So it's probably worth more money.
Speaker 5: I asked.
Speaker 2: If someone confuses us to we got some problems.
Speaker 6: Don't be surprised. My signature is not even my name. Okay,
Speaker 6: that's the thing about it. I was looking at the
Speaker 6: signature like name.
Speaker 1: All right, well, hey Anna, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming in so I always appreciate it. Swift for Fred,
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