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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of things that are happening, things

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Speaker 1: that are taking place. First and foremost, we recap Thursday

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Speaker 1: at football last night. It was a class. We've got

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Speaker 1: some big games coming up later on this weekend in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Those will be featured in our Picks against

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Speaker 1: the Spread coming up an hour three of the program.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned you know, sprinkle some Jake, Paul, Anthony Joshua

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Speaker 1: on Netflix coming up later on. Like all that is fun.

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Speaker 1: And then there's the return of the college football playoffs.

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Speaker 1: The College Football Playoff is back. It opens up tonight.

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Speaker 1: It's a good one. It's in Norman. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a rematch between Alabama and Oklahoma is.

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Speaker 4: Going to be off the rottle thump, aw say, are

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Speaker 4: going to get it in Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Nick Saban's got some thoughts. Oh god, Uh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he's got some thoughts on you know,

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Speaker 1: not so much Alabama, but he's got some thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the little playoffs, James Madison getting in and James Madison.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, having a playoff spot over a team

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Speaker 3: like say Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban shared and aired those grievances on The Pat

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Speaker 1: McAfee show starring AJ Hawk.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 5: Look, would we allow the winner of the trip away

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Speaker 5: Baseball League, the International League whatever they call. I don't

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Speaker 5: even know the name of it. Would you let them

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Speaker 5: in the in the World Series playoff?

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Speaker 3: I don't think they do.

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Speaker 5: I don't think no, they don't. But I'm saying, but

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Speaker 5: that's the equivalent of what we do when j m

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Speaker 5: U gets in to the college football playoff and Notre

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean the man's like, ether, Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's one way to put it.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, oh man, Oh, they ain't even in the

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Speaker 4: same league.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, like you know, he also pointed out,

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Speaker 1: you know, like the playoff bonus. Just give that to them.

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Speaker 1: And and let's get Notre dame in. Just give them,

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Speaker 1: you know, the four million dollars. Let's get it's so

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Speaker 1: dismissive and so demeaning that it's hilarious, Like it's absolutely hilarious.

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Speaker 1: And look, that's that's part of this as well too.

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Speaker 1: And here's here's because there's going to be some people

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Speaker 1: like it's arrogant. You know, this is all ego and

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Speaker 1: you're letting the little guy in and and and it's

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: Look, man, if you want to be a part of

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Speaker 1: player skips and people are like, what are you doing here?

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Speaker 3: Don't skip? Scratch it. Yay, we'll let you hang out.

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Speaker 1: But just understand, you don't look like anybody else here.

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Speaker 3: You never had to deal with that. I have. Have

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Speaker 3: you seen my in laws? Respect? Take that back? Try

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Speaker 3: being the only guy you know? Respect, Try being the

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Speaker 1: Your four year old son, Like, hey, why do you

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Speaker 3: Why are you hanging out with your son? Because I

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Speaker 3: know what he's saying, What do you mean Mexico. I'm

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Speaker 3: with you, Jerry, But the boy did I step down

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Speaker 3: the wrong lane that? But didn't even think that was

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Speaker 3: very selfless of me. I'm sorry. Listen to what right?

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Speaker 3: I know, I know what you go through. Man, You're

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Speaker 3: so right.

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Speaker 1: But like to Nick Samon's points, like this is this

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Speaker 1: is part of it. I mean they're here and you

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Speaker 1: hope they represent themselves well, but like this is part

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Speaker 4: Man, we know what that sets the stage for when

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Speaker 4: someone of his magnitude and caliber of a person uh

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Speaker 4: accomplishments and that if Mints as a coach, this sets

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Speaker 4: the stage for those to be the biggest games, those

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Speaker 4: truly should be the biggest games. Are watching the JMUS

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Speaker 4: there's another one that's in there, right, Who's there's another

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Speaker 4: smaller team that's that's in.

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Speaker 3: The lane, Tulane, Tulane.

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Speaker 4: That to me, I would not be interested in watching

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Speaker 4: a JMU game. I would not be interested in watching Tulane.

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Speaker 4: Like maybe like throw it on see like Okay, all right,

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Speaker 4: turn it off. But when you have someone like coach

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Speaker 4: Saban come out and say that like you're a triple

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Speaker 4: A team, you're not even a team that should be you.

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Speaker 4: You've not had to win a game that would count

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Speaker 4: for you winning in the big leagues, and you deserving

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Speaker 4: to be in the World Series playoffs, you know, said

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Speaker 4: wild Saban said, quote these guys ought to have their

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Speaker 1: Just give them the money. Each school gets four million

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Speaker 1: dollars for playing the first round. Just give them four

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Speaker 1: million dollars and putting Notre Dame in want to see

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame in organ play?

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Speaker 3: Hell, yeah you do, man, that's the truth. Sorry, that's

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Speaker 4: But with that being said, now it raises the state.

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Speaker 4: So here you go, jam You, Here you go, Tulane,

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Speaker 4: go whoop somebody's ass? Or if you're the team they're playing, who,

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Speaker 4: who's jam you playing first?

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Speaker 3: Oregan?

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Speaker 4: Who is who is Tulane playing first? That they already

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Speaker 4: lost to? Okay, ole miss and Oregon better win by

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Speaker 4: one hundred points, and that's exactly better. They better win

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Speaker 4: by one hundred points. No, no, winning is not good enough.

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Speaker 4: Oregon winning is not good enough. Old miss You better

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Speaker 4: thump them every single minute of that game, because you

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Speaker 4: know what would happen if a Triple A team played

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Speaker 4: a major league team, They would get thumped. They would

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Speaker 4: get thumped. You're basically saying if a college team played

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Speaker 4: a pro team in a game, that that should never happen.

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Speaker 4: That's what coach Saban said. That's if I'm comprehending it.

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Speaker 4: He's saying that the developmental League should never be competing

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Speaker 4: for a developmental league team should never be competing for

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Speaker 4: a World's there. So you're basically saying a college team

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Speaker 4: should never play a pro team. If a pro team

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Speaker 4: ever played a college team, what you think would happen?

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Speaker 4: They had better destroyed. And I'm talking the best college team.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking to team Ohio State. I'm talking. I'm talking

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Speaker 4: when Nick Saban was coach in Alabama. They had better

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Speaker 4: not be the worst team, let alone a playoff team

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Speaker 4: in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, and I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out how I want to frame this, because like

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Speaker 1: I want people to know that you were recruited to

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Speaker 1: play college basketball, correct, Like you were recruited you know

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Speaker 1: by you know Bob Huggins. Yeah, you know, John Thompson

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Speaker 1: like all this, so you would actually have an understanding

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Speaker 1: as well as anybody, and you played high level college football.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think it is that in the NCAA tournament,

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Speaker 1: we're okay with Cinderella team, yeah, and we almost are

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Speaker 1: pulling for it, but in this one it's this, ugh,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Is it just because it's new, Like it's.

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Speaker 1: Almost like it's it's almost like if you loose. Look,

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Speaker 1: Virginia was a one seed and lost to a sixteen

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Speaker 1: time it ever happened, and yeah, they got their balls broken.

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Speaker 1: But we've seen fifteen seeds be two seeds. We've seen fourteens,

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Speaker 1: b threes, et cetera, et cetera, the twelve and the

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Speaker 1: five all the time. There's so many and if you

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Speaker 1: have one bad half of basketball on a neutral site.

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Speaker 1: But why do you think that there's this, for lack

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Speaker 1: of a better term, arrogance when it comes to college

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Speaker 3: Is an arrogant culture.

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Speaker 4: It is it is, and it's a very very uh

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Speaker 4: top heavy, dominant culture, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: he could have said the same thing about the bottom

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Speaker 4: teams in the SEC or the Big Ten, or even

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Speaker 4: in the in the ACC. Yeah right, Like, think about it,

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Speaker 4: none of them belonging to playoff either. Have you seen

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Speaker 4: them play?

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Speaker 3: Give them four million dollars?

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Speaker 4: Don't believe he Have you seen some of these bottom

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Speaker 4: dwelling big conference schools play?

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Speaker 3: Throw them some cash and tell them to get the

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Speaker 3: hell hell out of here. Man, we only need you

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Speaker 3: for a couple of wins to get into the play

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Speaker 3: You do it? Hey, how much? Can you just go

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Speaker 3: ahead take a walk?

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Speaker 4: Your only flex is to say you're in the Big Ten,

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Speaker 4: say I'm in the SEC. That's your only flex because

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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, they do not view

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Speaker 4: the bottom teams. That's why the Vanderbilt story is so crazy.

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Speaker 4: That's why the Indiana story is so Do you understand

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Speaker 4: people are still reeling from and trying to figure out

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Speaker 4: what the.

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Speaker 3: Just happened this year?

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Speaker 4: Indiana is your Big Ten Conference champion, and they don't

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Speaker 4: look like they're going anywhere. It doesn't look like the

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Speaker 4: Kirk Signetti influence and impact is fake. It's for real.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So if you see what took place with Indiana, and

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Speaker 4: they're showing that they have the cash to be able

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Speaker 4: to create what it is that they want to create,

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Speaker 4: which is a winner in the Big Ten. Holy moly,

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Speaker 4: you beat Organ in Organ, you beat Ohio State in

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Speaker 4: the Big Ten championship game, Indiana.

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Speaker 3: You know the first thing I think about when I here.

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Speaker 4: Indiana Colbert Cheney, Isaiah Thomas, Bobby Knightight, the Hoosiers, like

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Speaker 4: the movie Football. I think Ala Gulia. I know you

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Speaker 4: It's an elitist type, like and I think that Nick

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Speaker 4: When you get down, when you start knocking it down,

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Speaker 4: Look at what Larynaga was able to do as a

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Speaker 3: Look at what Shaka Smart did at VCU, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Fore, Gonzaga has now built a reputation in the legacy

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Speaker 4: Why shouldn't JAM you be able to go and get get.

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Speaker 4: Like I felt like I messed up there there at

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Speaker 4: the acronym James Mason. I'm sorry, James Madison. Look, James Madison, Look,

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Speaker 4: Give them four million dollars. Tell them to take a walk,

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Speaker 4: Give them four million dollars. Make sure everybody knows what

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Speaker 3: Beat it. I just I just to me. It now

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Speaker 4: It raises the stakes of how I'm viewing these games,

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Speaker 3: They love a Rocky Balboa. They love a Rocky Balboa.

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Speaker 3: And you know what Apollo Creed's trainer was saying to him.

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Speaker 3: You don't want that, don't want that fight. Now.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking for, damn you to have people saying, oh,

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Speaker 3: What are you watching?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Coop, what are you watching? I didn't even know it

443
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Speaker 3: was on the TV until you guys said something.

444
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Speaker 1: Is this your all twenty two's like getting ready? Uh well,

445
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Speaker 1: Broncos game prep? You got you got issues, Coop. This

446
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: might be a good storthing?

447
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Speaker 3: Is that baby driver? Is that what that? I don't know?

448
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Speaker 3: Are you going to Denver this weekend? Damn? I mean

449
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Speaker 3: you said game? Okay, there you go. She just did it.

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Speaker 3: I think she did interesting? All right? There never been

451
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Speaker 3: to those trip clubs. All right.

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473
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Speaker 1: was a hell of a game last night in the

474
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Speaker 1: NFC West between the Seattle Seahawks and the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 4: Again, I think that that could be the two best

476
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 4: teams in the NFC. And listen, I'll tell you what

477
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 4: if I'm the Rams. What I'm most concerned about is

478
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 4: that the Seahawks didn't even play that well on offense.

479
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: They weren't even that good on offense. You know, Sam

480
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: Darnold did not have an amazing game.

481
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: Wow.

482
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Speaker 4: On on the other side of it, what no, what,

483
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Speaker 4: I don't know. It's papers for yours.

484
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Speaker 3: Their own mind. You don't have any, Yeah, you don't

485
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: have any.

486
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 4: I mean Patty printed out a whole bunch of of

487
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: picks and all that stuff that you can have mine.

488
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 3: I ain't. I guess not. You have it up in hell,

489
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: let's have no no you. I mean you, by the way,

490
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: you were one of them dudes in the class.

491
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: Right the way we just killed three trees with the

492
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 4: amount of I don't even know, I won't even looked

493
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Speaker 4: at these. I don't even know why we printed these out.

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00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: But but yeah, offensively, they were left a lot to

495
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Speaker 1: be desired.

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00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 4: Defensively, both teams are phenomenal. Matthew Stafford, which I think

497
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: this is the most concerning aspect of this game going

498
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 4: down the stretch is Stafford had an amazing He didn't

499
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 4: just have a good game, he had an amazingly great game,

500
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 4: and and he was dealing it up. They were you

501
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 4: know who can Kua was cooking them up like it was.

502
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: It seemed like it was supposed to be a Rams

503
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 4: night in some way. Somehow Seattle found a way to

504
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 4: do what they needed to do to not only pull

505
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 4: back into the game, but tie the game, take it

506
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 4: the extra extra innings in the game, and.

507
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: Pull it out. Pull it out.

508
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 4: So the mistake comes with you know, and I guess

509
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 4: it really wasn't a mistake because they scored in overtime. Yeah,

510
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: I just think that they had you know, they had

511
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 4: the perfect play dowed up for once there was enough

512
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: time to do it because a lot of the things

513
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 4: that they were doing Seattle was based off of climbing,

514
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 4: you know, six seven step drops, you know, play action,

515
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 4: and it didn't materialize the way that it probably was

516
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 4: drawing because they didn't have the time. I mean, they

517
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: were getting torn up in the interior line, they were

518
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: getting pressure from the outside of the line. They started

519
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: bringing safety blitzes, secondary blitzes. They were really really keeping

520
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 4: Donald under duress. And so for that last that final

521
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: two point conversion to work the way that it did,

522
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 4: the Titan having to be as patient as he was

523
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 4: before he leaked into his pass route, I mean, give

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Speaker 4: them credit they found the way to do it, because

525
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: I didn't think they'd have enough offense to get down

526
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Speaker 4: the field and scoring overtime. I was like, the Rams

527
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 4: got him. When they scored, I was like, the Rams

528
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: got him. They got to go sixty what was it,

529
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Speaker 4: sixty five yards? They had to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, give Sam Darnold a lot of credit.

531
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Speaker 1: He had two nuts on the tables throws in overtime,

532
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Speaker 1: the one doing Jackson Smith and Jigbud down the sideline

533
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: was at Cooper Cup down the sidel No, it was

534
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: just a fantastic game. I actually I come away from

535
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: that game and I go, I don't think that the

536
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: Seahawks can win a Super Bowl, but I'm sure that

537
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: the Rams can. Like there's another level to what the

538
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: Rams can do that just Seattle can't match. And it

539
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: may be just as simple as they've got the better quarterback.

540
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: But there was no DeVante Adams last night. And that

541
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: Seattle defense, which is one of the better defenses in

542
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: the league, had zero answers for Puka Nakua.

543
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: Zero.

544
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford was out there doing no look passes like

545
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: somebody stole from him. He was dancing, he was I

546
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: just think defensively for the Rams, they totally melted down

547
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: and never completely recovered after that.

548
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: Two point conversion.

549
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: Like that two point conversion was so bizarre and so strange.

550
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: I walked away.

551
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: So when they went for the two point conversion, they

552
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: get it to thirty to twenty eight, they go for two.

553
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: I walk away, they didn't.

554
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: Get it whatever, And then I come back and it's

555
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: thirty thirty, Yeah they got it.

556
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

557
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: Then me just walk downstairs, and you know, Sean McVay

558
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: was frustrated with the call. Afterwards, the Rams are very

559
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: frustrated about the call. So do we have the Sean

560
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: McVay talking about the two point conversion. Just want some answers,

561
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: just wants a little bit of clarity when it comes

562
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: to that bizarre play, in that bizarre moment last night.

563
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: I've never quite.

564
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 6: Seen anything like what happened on the two point conversion

565
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 6: where you're wind up to kick off, then they say

566
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 6: it's a fumble because they had the clear and obvious recovery.

567
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 6: Now you tack it on, you make it a thirty

568
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 6: thirty game. Very interesting. Didn't get a clear explanation of

569
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 6: everything that went on just because of some of the

570
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 6: timing of it. They were trying to be able to

571
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 6: do that. But that's the thing that I've said, I've

572
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 6: never seen anything or never been a part of anything

573
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 6: like that, and I've grown up around this game. I'm

574
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 6: not making excuses.

575
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: We don't do that.

576
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 6: I don't believe that it doesn't move us forward, but

577
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 6: we do want clarity and an understanding of, you know,

578
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 6: the things that we can do to minimize that.

579
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: When we rejected the two point.

580
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 4: Conversion, and that's a fair that's a that's a fair

581
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 4: explanation and conclusion from Veigh and.

582
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: And I think his like the real frustration was they

583
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: had moved on, were lined up to kick, and next thing,

584
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, wait what we're reviewing it and and now

585
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: like they.

586
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: Got the call.

587
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 4: Those plays are reviewable, like they're able, and look they

588
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: got it right.

589
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: And that's all you can ask is that they got

590
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: the now.

591
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: The one the other one in the game where you know,

592
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: a legal man downfield from the one yard that I

593
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: don't know how that's necessarily possible, Like there was some

594
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: questionable stuff.

595
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: But you know, it does go back to the uh

596
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: to your guy who can? Who can? Nakua who? Uh?

597
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: Who criticized the officials.

598
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: As we talked about what it was they struck well

599
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: he uh. He quickly went to social media, did pookin aku?

600
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: I believe roughly seven minutes they had it seven minutes

601
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: after he went into the tunnel after the game was over,

602
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: and had a tweet that he quickly deleted something along

603
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: the lines of basically, you know, can you say I

604
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: was wrong?

605
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: Thanks?

606
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: Zebras, you know, like like whatever, you know whatever comment

607
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: he made on that live stream with Aiden Ross and

608
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, somebody named Neon I believe it's their name.

609
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: But Puka Nikua posted a tweet.

610
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: He quickly deleted it, and then afterwards Sean McVay was

611
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: asked about that, and you could tell was very frustrated

612
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: about having to answer questions about a tweet from his

613
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: star player following an emotional loss like that.

614
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 6: Did like a distraction this week?

615
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't a distraction at all.

616
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 6: Did you think his play showed that he was distracted?

617
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 6: I didn't think so either. He went off today he didn't,

618
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 6: you know what, and I apologize for you know what.

619
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 6: I love this team, and man, when you point out

620
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 6: as much as our group does and you care so

621
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 6: much about something and you come up short, it's incredibly disappointing.

622
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 6: But as it relates to just the things that that

623
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 6: you're asking, you know, we always want to make sure

624
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 6: that we handle ourselves with class, learn from it. Will

625
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 6: put my arm around him and continue to educate our guys.

626
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 6: I love this team, I love his heart. I think

627
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 6: he's going to continue to grow and mature and I'm

628
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 6: going to be there right there with him to.

629
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: Continue to help do that. So there was obviously that

630
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: there was he loves hookah bruh.

631
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he saw the way they chest bumped,

632
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: like you know, explicitive, explicitive like like yeah, after that

633
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 4: touchdown he got which which, by the way, we talked

634
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: about the coolness and the uniqueness of the route that

635
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 4: they were able to Uh, the Seattle Seahawks were able

636
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 4: to get their two point conversion on that passing route

637
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 4: that Whok and Nakula got and scored on at the

638
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 4: end of the game. That dip was fire too. The

639
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 4: way they cleared it out had the crosser he slid

640
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 4: in underneath. That was a nice That was a dope

641
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 4: play right up as well. They knew exactly how the

642
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 4: the coverage was going to be where where this you

643
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 4: know guy was supposed to clear out like clear up

644
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 4: in the passing situation.

645
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: Stafford's arm is crazy.

646
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, his ball delivery, his his ability to his his

647
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 4: arm talent is it's just.

648
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 3: And he was feeling it last night. Oh man.

649
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy about crazy about Stafford is

650
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: that going into the season, first of all, we didn't

651
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: know if he was going to sign there sigh Like

652
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: there was also the stuff about you know him, you know,

653
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: where's he gonna end up if he ends up in Pittsburgh.

654
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 4: We're having a totally different conversation about the Steelers because Stafford's.

655
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: Winning the MVP despite you know, them losing last night.

656
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: They didn't lose because of him. He was fantastic. But also, yeah,

657
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: the back issue, Like there was conversations about, man, he's

658
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: got this back issue, like this is going to linger

659
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: all season, and here we are, it's late December. He's

660
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: the MVP of the league and that looks like potentially

661
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL coming off a loss,

662
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: like no DeVante Adams and they did what they did

663
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: against that defense, Like that's why I come away from

664
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: that game and I go, man, that's that's a huge

665
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: win for Seattle.

666
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: They had to have it.

667
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: But I don't think the Rams are concerned at all

668
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: about having to go.

669
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: Into Seattle and when and win another game there.

670
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: They I don't know that I could go with you

671
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 4: on that that boat. Again, I think you have to

672
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 4: be concerned because Seattle didn't play their best football and

673
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 4: they were able to access their defense and they didn't

674
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: have great offense and still won. I can't say you

675
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 4: don't come away from that game not being concerned about

676
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 4: what that could mean for the future for the playoffs

677
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: as it applies to to Mike McDonald's. McDonald's uh that, which,

678
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 4: by the way, he should be in the Coaches of

679
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 4: the Year conversation as well. What he's been able to

680
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 4: do in the turnaround of the Seattle Seahawks team. I

681
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: think you certainly have to look at the Seattle Seahawks

682
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 4: team as as a threat and in the NFC they

683
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 4: can beat any team on the NFC side, and to

684
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 4: that point, they can beat any team on the AFC side.

685
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 4: So to say that you don't think that they could

686
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 4: be a Super Bowl champ, but you came away with

687
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 4: knowing that the.

688
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: Rams could be.

689
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 4: And they're missing the Davonte Like I don't even put

690
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 4: Davonte Adams on the level of receiver that he once

691
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 4: was before he's gotten to this point. He's he is

692
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 4: a nice he is a nice contributor. He is a

693
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: nice compliment to Houka Nakua. But but make no mistake

694
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 4: about it, it's Puka and the rest of them, And

695
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 4: sure he can make a difference, but I'm not I'm

696
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: not looking at it like he is the determining factor, Like, oh,

697
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 4: you get him back like it's it's just it's lights out,

698
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 4: like now, the game would have probably gone exactly the

699
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 4: same way that it went last night. Really, I don't

700
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 4: think he's I don't think he he makes them that

701
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 4: much better where they win that game.

702
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: I don't he's good.

703
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 4: But like to say, oh, well, wait till they get

704
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 4: Adams back, Like, nah, I don't think that that's the

705
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: conversation point.

706
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 1: In, Look, I have you know, Seattle's a very good team.

707
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: Seattle is going to be a playoff team. Seattle's number

708
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: one in their division, yeah, I mean and number one

709
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: of the conference like all of that. Yeah, but there's

710
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: three games left, and so you know, a lot, a

711
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: lot can change the Niners control their destiny like a

712
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: lot can change. I just think if you were to

713
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: ask right now, who do you believe can win under

714
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: any condition at any point during the postseason.

715
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 4: I will take the ram, but I don't think any

716
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 4: I don't think you have to be wrong to make

717
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: it right for me to say that it would be Seattle.

718
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but let's take it. There's there's multiple teams.

719
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 4: There's multiple teams that I would say could win under

720
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 4: any circumstances. The Eagles, while struggling to be the top

721
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 4: of the NFC East and not having the type of

722
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: offense that that they should be having this year, are

723
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: still a team that is capable of winning under any circumstances,

724
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 4: any any weather conditions, any team, any personnel groupings, whatever

725
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 4: it is. Matchup wise, the Eagles match up well with anybody.

726
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: I'd also I'd say the Bears, Bears get carried away here.

727
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 4: I'll say the Bears, I'd say the Seahawks and the Rams,

728
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: all of those in the NFC sticks picks could win

729
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: under any circumstances and match up well under any circumstances today.

730
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 4: And I throw Detroit in there as a light like lightly,

731
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: throw Detroit in.

732
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 3: There, getting the tricking a little love? Why not? Damn?

733
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: I would have said green Bay, but I don't. That

734
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 4: is a loss that those two losses Watson and and

735
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 4: have we got any updates on.

736
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: Watch He's I think he's gonna play Okay, he avoided

737
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: they thought he like there's like he broke his collar bone.

738
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

739
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: Like we were talking earlier this week about you know,

740
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: sometimes people you know, know immediately when an injury occurred,

741
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: and then.

742
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 4: Other times it just looks like swinging a miss.

743
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 3: He looked like he died on the field. How bad

744
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 3: that hurts? We have a problem.

745
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 4: That man was face down for a seconds like man

746
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 4: like pool that chalk out outline his body.

747
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: He died on the field. Yeah, it's uh, that's Look.

748
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: I think the both conferences, the AFC and the NFC

749
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: are are pretty wide open.

750
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: But there's a reason why, you know, the Rams are

751
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 3: the favorite.

752
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: And look, maybe this is And look, pople in Seattle

753
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: listening right now are probably gonna be very upset.

754
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: They should be.

755
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: Patrick Sweeka is wearing a Reese Witherspoon jersey right now.

756
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: So he's wearing a Witherspoon jersey right now, and he's like,

757
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: you know, people are going to be upset about it.

758
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: And this could be the fact that I think I,

759
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: along with you and Brady all had Seattle finishing last

760
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: in that division. I clearly clearly whiffed on that one.

761
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: I just look at last night and I go, I

762
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: think it was more about and it was a great

763
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: finish from Sam Darnold.

764
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: There's just been.

765
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Way too many times, especially in the last month and

766
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: a half, where offensively Seattle just.

767
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: Hasn't been good like they haven't been good.

768
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: Defensively, They've been there, but offensively, I just I can't trust.

769
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 4: Do you want to go back through the history of

770
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 4: time on team, like we could go back to two thousand,

771
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: start two thousand Trent Dilferd in that offense, they had

772
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 4: Jamal Lewis, which if you ain't got Jamal Lewis and

773
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: Shannon Sharpe on that offense, you know, I don't know,

774
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: but that wasn't the catalysts of them.

775
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 3: Being able to win. It was their defense. Kadri Ishmael

776
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: on that team missile foot up Q.

777
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 4: It wasn't a great offense. No, no, no, you can

778
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 4: go through time. There weren't great offenses. I didn't think

779
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: Gruden's Tampa Bay offense was a great offense.

780
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: You had to have so many things go wrong last night.

781
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: And this is no disrespect. I love what Mike McDonald's done.

782
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: I think he's fantastic. I love the Seahawks. The Unis

783
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: last night hard, really them helmets is hard. That UNI

784
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: was hard. You ain't like that, listen, joint was fire?

785
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: Go back to the.

786
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: Larger unis enough enough, Like let's come to this. You

787
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: know what, We're just on different pages today. And it's fine,

788
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: which one different.

789
00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 4: Different strokes, But are we in a different boat or

790
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: on different page?

791
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

792
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 4: I mean it's a two pros and a cup of

793
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 4: Joe book. I would assume it's being written. Whatever we're

794
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: doing it, whatever we do, is being written.

795
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: There's just so many things that had to go right

796
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: last night for Seattle to win that game, like so

797
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: many things, like so.

798
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 4: Many Look, couldn't you say the same exact thing for

799
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 4: the Rams. There were so many things that had to

800
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 4: go right for them to win the game last night.

801
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: Like Sam Darnold had some really bad throws, like like

802
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: really bad, Like Matthew Stafford's not even looking at guys

803
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: and completing.

804
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 4: You don't see that as a concern that you could

805
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: do all of those things as Matthew Stafford with the

806
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: stat line that he had, it was a Gotti stat line,

807
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 4: And you still.

808
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: Lost, no, because I look at that and I go,

809
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: that's a fluke, rare two point conversion occurrence. That's a

810
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: missed kick by a guy who hadn't missed a kick

811
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: all year long.

812
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 4: There's just they were down by how many fifteen four

813
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 4: team sixteen points? They were one Jonas they were owen.

814
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: One fifty five in franchise history, down by that amount

815
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. That doesn't happen. Like, there's the

816
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: exception in the rule. Last night was the exception. The

817
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: rule is they're gonna lose that game. Like that's how

818
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: I look at well.

819
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 4: I'll say, I don't disagree with the way you presented

820
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: that that last point as your final point. Maybe you

821
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 4: stumbled on it by accident. I'll give you, yeah, because

822
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: that's what we have around We actually do have a

823
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 4: prompter line arounder somewhere that's right in front of you.

824
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: That's that's that's it right there, it's right in front

825
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 3: of you. It's not up, but it's not what we

826
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: don't need one. Yeah, we got papers. We killed four trees.

827
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 3: Well that is true, you know that is true.

828
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, start upload, start start putting our scripts in the game.

829
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: Yet the whole forest right now?

830
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 4: What you do with today, bab? What you do it today, bab.

831
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 4: That's two in a row. I will say this. You

832
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: don't to buck your your point. You don't be what

833
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 4: you just said and winning a game against the Rams,

834
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 4: but be the number one team in your division and

835
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 4: the top rated team one of the top rated teams

836
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 4: conference in the conference. You're the number one team in

837
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: the conference conference. Yeah, I don't. I don't see that

838
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 4: as oh well, there's an exception to the rule, and

839
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 4: then there's what it is, what it's supposed to be,

840
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 4: and how it's supposed to happen. Well, Seattle has done

841
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: quite a job to climb to. Uh, yeah, there's twelve

842
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 4: and three.

843
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm not scoffing at like it's I think it's you know,

844
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: a great story, and.

845
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: You kind of are though you're kind of putting them

846
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 4: in a different book on a different pages.

847
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 3: You're kind of putting them in a different book.

848
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and I don't mean to put them in

849
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: the book they don't want to read. But I just

850
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: I come away from last night going, yeah, I congratulations.

851
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: I just I think there's going to be concerns moving forward.

852
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 4: But you have listen, You're right, there should be concern

853
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: because the offense did not give them what they needed.

854
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: But in football, we always say win two out of

855
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 4: the three phases of the game when the turnover battle,

856
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 4: and you will win the game, which is crazy because

857
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: they lost the turnover battle horribly, lost it horribly, but

858
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 4: they won the three out of the three phases. They

859
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 4: won two phases of the game. They got contribution from

860
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: from from special teams. Their special teams boned them. The

861
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: game is over if he makes field goal. Let's keep

862
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 4: that in mind. He misses the field goal that allowed

863
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 4: for it to go the way that it went. It

864
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 4: goes into overtime. They lose a game. That's football, and

865
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 4: for what it's worth. Instead of you sitting there putting

866
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 4: down the Seattle Seahawks, what you should say is this

867
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 4: is what football game should look like when you get

868
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 4: to this point in the season. Maybe you aren't going

869
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 4: to have the best day on offense, maybe you're not

870
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 4: going to have the best day on defense. Maybe those

871
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 4: are the strengths of your team. Maybe that isn't what

872
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 4: cameen's to the table. Y'all had a game to play.

873
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 4: It was a divisional game. They did not The Seattle

874
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: Seahawks did not own the type breaker. The Rams got

875
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: the first one. You got a must win situation to

876
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: offset the type breaker and give yourself an opportunity for

877
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: home field advantage, and you found a way to win

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Speaker 3: Or if it's the ugliest win. A win is a win.

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Speaker 4: I'm not coming out of the game like you know.

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Speaker 4: You come out of the game with injuries, that's a concern.

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Speaker 4: You come out of game and it looks like he's

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Speaker 4: got the yips, that's a concern. I didn't see that

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Speaker 3: He's not going to live that down. We're gonna live

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Speaker 1: One of the other big games is weekend. You mentioned

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00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: the Christian Watson situation with Green Bay. Our friends listening

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Speaker 1: in state wide in Wisconsin. Right now, it's a biggie

962
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: Saturday night. It's going to be the Packers at the

963
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: Bears in all likelihood would probably determine who wins the

964
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: NFC North.

965
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: But both teams are banged up.

966
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: The Packers obviously with Micah Parsons injury, Christian Watson has

967
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: banged up, Josh Jacobs is questionable, Zach tom is the same,

968
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: Roma Done Day's out for the Bears, Luther Burdens out

969
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: for the Bears. Tremaine edwins Edwards is out or is

970
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: questionable for the Bear There's just there's a lot going

971
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: on with the Packers and the Bears, and now they

972
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: think about it, There's a lot going around around the NFL,

973
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: and it does feel like the War of Attrition is

974
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 1: officially begun. Like we're at the point of the season

975
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: where who the hell is going to be healthy and you're.

976
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: Sitting there talking about wait till they get Davonte back?

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00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 4: Who cares guys are injured? You got to know how

978
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 4: to think.

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00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 3: Devonte Adams is a key member of the Yes, I do.

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Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is, at this point in the season,

981
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 4: you've got to know how to win games, or you

982
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 4: don't know how to win games bottom line. Bottom line,

983
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Speaker 4: either you know how to get out of these games,

984
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 4: or you can't quite get out of these games.

985
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: Like I was thinking about this as well too, because

986
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: there's so many bad teams in the NFL, like in

987
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: this case this year, is a lot of them in

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00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: this game, for example, between the Bears and the Packers.

989
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: So Christian Watson is banged up, obviously, Josh Jacob Zach

990
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: Tom Tremaine Edmonds is coming back from the IR he's

991
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Speaker 1: been out for some time, but that's a fossition.

992
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: He's he's questionable.

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00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 1: And I almost have it in my mind in talking

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Speaker 1: about bad teams in the NFL being like, you know what, like,

995
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: what's the point listen, Jaden Daniels sit this one? Like

996
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: it really is now to a point where in games

997
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Speaker 1: like this, no, if you can go, you're going, like

998
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Speaker 1: if you're even a fraction of a hundred of healthy,

999
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Speaker 1: like you're gonna go. And there's just gonna be guys

1000
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: out there that are gonna run the risk of further

1001
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: injury because of how big these games are. And we're

1002
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Speaker 1: just you see last night and you go, those are

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00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: two really good teams. Those are teams that are going

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00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: to be playoff teams. And it almost kind of jars

1005
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Speaker 1: you into rethinking, oh, yeah, like there's actually good teams

1006
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: in the league, because there's a lot of crap and

1007
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: you almost get I almost catch myself evaluating or talking

1008
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Speaker 1: about teams that are bad, almost like throwaways, when the

1009
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: reality is, no, there's other teams in the league that

1010
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: actually could win this whole thing. And if guys are

1011
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: going to be if there's the potential of them being

1012
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: out there, they're gonna be out there. And if you

1013
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: run further risk of injury, so be it. Like the

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00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: Green Bay is riddled with injuries up and down there,

1015
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: but damn they're favorite to win that game tomorrow night

1016
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Their favorite to win that game. It just

1017
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: it feels like we're at the separation point to where

1018
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: last night was sort of the early preview of playoff football.

1019
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what you like.

1020
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 4: It did, and that's why I should be concerning that

1021
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 4: the Rams came out on the wrong side of that game.

1022
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 4: And as we go into these matchups with teams as

1023
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 4: good as Chicago and Green Bay going into it, yeah,

1024
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 4: you are going to have a playoff feel to it.

1025
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Speaker 4: And listen, you know, it's not a winner, go home game,

1026
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Speaker 4: so it is a tat bit different. But nonetheless, do

1027
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Speaker 4: you not think that Ben Johnson and the Chicago Bears

1028
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Speaker 4: want to cap off, you know, begin to cap off

1029
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Speaker 4: of regular season where there was a true turnaround that

1030
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Speaker 4: took place in Chicago, a turnaround that people have been

1031
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Speaker 4: hoping for, wishing for, praying for. Like people, all they

1032
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: wanted for Christmas was Chicago to be a competitive football team.

1033
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Speaker 4: That was only if they wanted. Now look at them now,

1034
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 4: they're a good team. They're a competitive team. So and

1035
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 4: this Green Bay Packers team, it's much the same.

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Speaker 1: By the way, a quick update, the Lion has now

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Speaker 1: half point favorite. It opened up earlier this week with

1039
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: green Bay the favorite but still expected to be a

1040
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: close game. And I'm fascinated to see what green Bay

1041
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: is without Michael Parsons.

1042
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 3: I want to see how that impact.

1043
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 4: They're still going to be good, yeah, They're just not

1044
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 4: going to be as dynamic a defense without them. And

1045
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 4: I would say that for the Dallas Cowboys or any

1046
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 4: other team that Michael Parsons was on that wasn't he

1047
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 4: wasn't on there anymore, or something like an injury took

1048
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: him off the field. They're not going to be as dynamic,

1049
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 4: They're not going to be as scary a defense without

1050
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons on the field. I mean, think about it.

1051
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 4: Would would we say the same thing about Lawrence Taylor?

1052
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 4: Would we say the same thing about Reggie White? Would

1053
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 4: we say that the same thing about Mi ray Lewis

1054
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 4: moles Garrett If they're not on the field, While they

1055
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 4: may be a good team, to sit there and actually

1056
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 4: fix your mouth to say that you could actually be better,

1057
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 4: like they fixed their mouths to say in Dallas that

1058
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 4: they were actually better. People in the media said that

1059
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: this was this team was I heard Colin say it

1060
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 4: that this team was actually better without Michael Parsons.

1061
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: What a whiff?

1062
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, because that's a miss because they're able

1063
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: to stop the run better, and being able to stop

1064
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: the run is really going to help out on Valentine's

1065
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: Day weekend when the season's over and they've been out

1066
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: of football for you know, a month and a half,

1067
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: that's really gonna it's really gonna help out.

1068
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: You could stop the run better, that's for you than Sorry.

1069
00:57:55,560 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy, man, Fuz.

1070
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Speaker 3: That is and crazy. You know what your son just said,

1071
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Speaker 3: what is it?

1072
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Speaker 4: What Ralfie, It's just I met Ralphie.

1073
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Speaker 1: H it is careful, it is it just it goes

1074
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be. I'm curious to see what that looks like.

1075
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: Because even like Michael Parson has got twelve and a

1076
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: half sacks on the year, you know how many how

1077
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: many other plays he impacted the pressure sack on pressure,

1078
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: there's no there's no way to really put you can't like,

1079
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can even.

1080
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 4: The presence of it. Yeah, like him being out there,

1081
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 4: you're taking the blocking scheme to his side every single time,

1082
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 4: which means that you're creating single singles side. So Rashaun

1083
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 4: Gary and company on the opposite side are benefactors. So

1084
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 4: if you take into consideration the production of the other

1085
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 4: guys on that defense, you have to also directly attribute

1086
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 4: that to the presence of Michael Parsons being on the field.

1087
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: And you're less likely to after bringing a tight end

1088
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Speaker 1: or receiver to chip. Now opens up the passing game.

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Speaker 4: Now you're going to see if Green Bay can do

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Speaker 4: it the way they were doing it without Micah where

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Speaker 4: they're now turning the defense or turning the blocking scheme

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Speaker 4: to Rashaw and Gary or taking it to the most

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Speaker 4: dangerous linebacker. However, the sinner is going to call it out.

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Speaker 4: But you're not going to see the same successes from

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Speaker 4: some of these guys on the defense that you saw

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Speaker 4: when Michael Parsons was there. And that's going to be

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Speaker 4: interesting to see if they can navigate as a defense

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Speaker 4: because when you have a guy as special as Michael

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Speaker 4: Parsons out there, you don't have to worry about making

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Speaker 4: the right play call. You know that the play call

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Speaker 4: is going to be a good play call no matter

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Speaker 4: what it is, because you're going to get that element

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Speaker 4: of pressure from your defensive front. So if I want

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Speaker 4: to go in a more heavy coverage, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: I'm still going to get the same type of pressure.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to pull somebody out as you mentioned,

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Speaker 4: like they got to keep a tight end in to

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Speaker 4: block out of dadas and that I don't have to

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Speaker 4: bring down a safety or do blitzes that are like

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Speaker 4: kind of creative and all this because I can get

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Speaker 4: that pressure from just the four or the three that

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Speaker 4: I'm going to send that are in the defensive front.

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Speaker 4: Now you're down one and he's your most effective pass rusher.

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Speaker 4: That's down. That is a tremendous loss. It's like trying

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Speaker 4: to run around with your big toe off like you

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Speaker 4: lost your big too. See how that works. You don't

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Speaker 4: realize how how serious a body part is until you

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Speaker 4: lose it.

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Speaker 3: Feel just falling over.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've dealt with the gout big two man

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Speaker 4: like you don't want the gout big toe long.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know this. You ever wanted to

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Speaker 1: try an Olympic and Paralympic sport, You try fencing. It's fast,

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Speaker 1: it's safe, it's easy to start to find a beginner

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Speaker 1: class near you at USA Fencing dot org slash try Fencing.

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Speaker 1: That's USA Fencing dot org slash try Fencing. And up next,

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Speaker 1: there's believe it or not, a major event in the

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Speaker 1: world of sports that you had no idea about that's

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Speaker 1: going on this weekend.

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Speaker 3: We'll tell you what it is here at FSR