1 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Okay, podcast starts now. Okay, I just want to fill 2 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: everyone in that we it's now been a half hour. 3 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: We had a half hour of how many would you say? 4 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Four different technical issues? If you can hear what we're 5 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: saying right now, that is a feat of our technical prowess. 6 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: I can't even I do think it probably still doesn't work, 7 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: even though I think supposedly recording two different ways, what 8 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: we are currently recording, there's no doubt in my mind 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: is not being recorded. This can't be released because it's 10 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: not being recorded. We are talking to nothing, and so 11 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: we're finally We're finally going back to our roots for 12 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: two reasons. First of all, because we are not recording 13 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: and speaking with no intention of releasing the episode, which 14 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: is kind of how this podcast started. And then, second 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: of all, because we are both hungover and over caffeinated. Yes, 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: I woke up this morning with a deep, dark hangover, 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: and it is you know, I'm reaching that part of 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 1: it that is like where you want to go to sleep, 19 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: but I can't because I have to record our smash 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: hit podcast, our runaway smash podcast, the podcast on Everybody's lips. 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm of course talking about Stradio lab you know. I mean, Sam, 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: I told you this, but we have our youngest ever 23 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: fan who Okay are the wheels turning? Oh? The baby? Yeah? Okay. 24 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: So our friend friend of the pod Dan had a baby. 25 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: Well he didn't give birth to the baby, but he 26 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: now is a father. He getnapped a baby, and it's 27 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: so funny. I was, um, wait, Sam, you missed um 28 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: Max's uh birthday party at the park yesterday. But I 29 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: was telling someone this and I was telling Joe Brooklander 30 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: and he got and he was before that, he was 31 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: talking about how it was impossible to find a kettlebell 32 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: in during quarantine, and then I was talking about how 33 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: our friend adopted a baby and he's like, yeah, I 34 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: mean it's easier to adopt a baby than buy a 35 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: kettlebelling quarantine. Oh my god, how did that feel to 36 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: be social? Honestly, it was really wait to close the 37 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: loop on the other thing. So Dan's baby, Um, well, 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: I guess he told me the name, but maybe it's 39 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: not public INFOCT so maybe I don't want to dos her. 40 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: But the name, let's just say. You know how for albums, 41 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: for like a Lady Gaga album, it's like l G 42 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: six This is d d one. Wow. Uh so I 43 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: won't I won't say the baby's name, but it is. 44 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: It's a very cute name. And it's like I in 45 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: my mind, in my mind it's a Greek name. But 46 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: like if someone was like, it's actually Latin, then I'd 47 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: be like, sure, well, yeah, they're the same, right right there? 48 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: The same. Well, there's like old and new. I mean, 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: the fact that Greece and Italy are different places. Is 50 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: this offensive? They're like the same? Right? Yeah? Is this rude? No? 51 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: I do think that. Also, the stereotypes about Italians and Greeks, Well, 52 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: it's funny because Italian culture is so much more represented 53 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: in the United States, I mean, from the Sopranos to 54 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: a Gaga, and whereas Greek culture really we only have 55 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: any of our dollars. Who is that she wrote and 56 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: started my big fact Reek wedding. Oh you're right, Okay, 57 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: she's a star. Yeah, Academy Award nominee. Any other question. 58 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm not obsessed with her makes one of us, um, 59 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: but I do think it is crazy how Italian Italian 60 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: American culture has so many touchstones and and and many 61 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: of them are good. I mean, many of them are terrible, 62 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: but many of them are really good. But Greek American 63 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: culture is it's my big fact. Reek wedding is uh. 64 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: I keep wanting to say Italian things. I'm like, I 65 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: know in season two of The Christina Applicate and Lenda 66 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: Cardilini Netflix show dead to me, there's a storyline that 67 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: has to do with the Greek mafia. Oh you know what, 68 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: it's sister who of the Traveling Pants. That's what it is. 69 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: You're right, Oh my god? Know what else? Mama Miyama 70 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: of course. Okay, but that's more like things set in Greece. Like, 71 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: I guess that's sort of the Traveling Pants. There's the 72 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: Greek guy that that Alexis Bledel likes. Yeah, that's Greek culture, 73 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: the Greek guy. No, you're right, the idea of being 74 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: the Greek guy is Greek culture. Okay. So wait, um 75 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: so being outside I have to say. So here's the thing, Like, 76 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: I do think it's funny to see people, um, you know, 77 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: in real time negotiate with themselves how serious they want 78 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: to be about social distancing and protecting themselves. It's a 79 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: lot of like people truly half passing it in the 80 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: most charming way. It's just like it's like you'll forget 81 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: about it and then you'll have like a normal interaction 82 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: and then kind of like go back and be like 83 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: oh no, or like you'll suddenly realize you have you 84 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: put down your mass in order to have a sip 85 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: of coffee, but then you like didn't put it up 86 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: in time. I don't know. And then there were I 87 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: have to say, I am not I did not do this, um, 88 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: but I was shocked to see people around Sometimes people 89 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: would like hug yeah, and it's like, isn't that illegal? 90 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: Isn't that the thing you were not supposed to do? 91 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: It's interesting, Yeah, do you think there needs to be 92 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: kind of a park, like a peaceful park patrol team 93 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: that all whose only job is to prevent people from 94 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: hugging George in this time? And that's why you careful? 95 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: Are you arguing for more police? I'm literally no, I'm 96 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: saying that, our lord, are you asking for more police? 97 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: In fact that I was trying to make it's like 98 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: way too soon to make. I was trying to make 99 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: a joke of like the last thing I would want 100 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: to do is involved the police. So that's why there 101 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: should be like a part in fact, how about this, 102 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: it's all it's an all children force. No is the 103 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: year a D and no domini? Are you asking for 104 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: more police? Are you a child army? Police people? Here's 105 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: the thing, a child army of park of community park patrol. 106 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: Unarmed of course, I mean all all little girls. So 107 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: it's feminist and they all have to dress like Jojo 108 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: siwa um so that they're like non threatening. Not only 109 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: are they unarmed, they actually are. They are all wearing 110 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: um like like, uh, what am I what's the word 111 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking for? I have no idea a straight jacket. 112 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: So it's little girls dressed like Jojo see what wearing 113 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: Even if they wanted to in any you know, like 114 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: even if they wanted to kind of like push somewhere something, 115 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: you can't do that. But all they do is go 116 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: around and if someone's hugging, they go stop it. Okay, 117 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: do you still think that that's a bad suggestion. I 118 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: think you're right that you have made the distinction between 119 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: this army and police. That's like, that was my intention 120 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: from the beginning. I was like what is I was like, 121 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: what is a form of um, you know, collective uh, 122 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, ways of holding each other? Accountable, that is 123 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: the least that has the least possibility of um of 124 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: being abused. And and my suggestion, which I stand by, 125 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: is an army of little girls dressed like Jojo see 126 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: what in straight jackets. I think it's genius. I'm gonna 127 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, from a because I think that is 128 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: where my tax dollars are going to. I pay taxes. Listen, 129 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: the taxes are not only going to the straight jackets, 130 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: but to the pieces of flair that are going on 131 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: the straight jackets in order to make the little girls 132 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: even less threatening than they already are. It's a fun 133 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: thing people love. And here's and here's what we're gonna 134 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: pay for it. All the money that was previously going 135 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: to Girl Scouts is not going to go to these, 136 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: uh child armies of little girls. So wait, do we 137 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: pay for Girl Scouts? I guess not. That's not like 138 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: a government agency. Wait you know what, though, it should be, 139 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: don't you think? I mean absolutely? What if all the 140 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: money that went to the police went to Girl Scouts 141 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: and then they made instead of just cookies literally like 142 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: elaborate like um baked goods, like a like a really 143 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: fresh lime tart that they would deliver to your house. 144 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: I mean, they would love that. Why don't we do that? 145 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: They got stuff going on. Like when I was a kid, 146 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: it I wasn't a Girl Scout, but I went to 147 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: Girl Scout camp. Whoa, you can just let yourself into 148 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: girl Scout camp. I can being unaffiliated. And wait, this 149 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: is how my friend who isn't Jewish worked at a kibbutz. 150 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: I worked at a Jewish y and I'm not Jewish. Well, 151 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: the Girl Scouts are very similar to the Jewish people, 152 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: and that they're very welcoming of outsiders. They are, and yeah, 153 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: I learned how to sail there. They have like all 154 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: sorts of programs, archery, you know, we learned they're building 155 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: an army. But again, but you know what though archery 156 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: already that would not fly in my child army of 157 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: little girl's dress. Basically speaking, I mean their arms are tied. 158 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: They can't do anything. You know. I have to say, 159 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: we are recording this podcast and it is already different 160 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: than any other podcast that we have ever recorded. Uh 161 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: has come into the conversation completely unannounced, and we didn't 162 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: yell at her. That's what I was. And you know, 163 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: because what happens is people do come in unannounced, but 164 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: we immediately I mean to get we get any I mean, 165 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: we throw around, like really kind of like offensive words. 166 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: We get giant bitch. Yeah, said to some of our 167 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: industry's biggest uh names. Yeah, we have made them cry. 168 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean today, you know, now we're on zoom. Sometimes 169 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: we'll get physically violent if we're in the studio. Um, 170 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: but today, I said, as soon as Youdora uh started speaking, 171 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: I said, you know what this feels, right, I said, 172 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: let's not get mad. Let's let's not get mad. Let's 173 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: just let it happen. And we both decided that independently. 174 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: But and and we knew, we knew this was the time. 175 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: So Georgia and I kind of like we don't need 176 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: to say everything to know that we're on the same page. 177 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: We can kind of like read each other's minds in 178 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: a weird way. And actually, most podcast host when they 179 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: really get in the group, they can. They often say 180 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: that they have telekinetic powers with their co host. Correct. 181 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: And I also want to say about this pod so 182 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: far is that it is um the most disjointed yet 183 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I cannot I'm so hungover. I feel 184 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: like I cannot hold a conversation thread and I keep 185 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: jumping at the next thing that you say and just 186 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: trying to start a new conversation based on it. Well, 187 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: that is so lucky because we do what we actually 188 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: have to do is have a conversation, then have a 189 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: second one with the second one that we're recording after 190 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: this one. So I think that's really good news. Um 191 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: so your door. Let's at this point, you're in, the 192 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: curtains are drawn. There's no point in going back to 193 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: pretending that it's just the two. I mean to retroactively 194 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: introduced Udora Peterson. Does that count? Did I do it? 195 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: That's good? Yeah? You sound pissed? Yeah, I do. Did 196 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: a bad job, right? No, No, I'm not mad. No, honestly, 197 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. Like, when you guys were talking, I 198 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, are they going to be like why? 199 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: I thought, literally, Sam, you're gonna text me to be 200 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: like speak. So that's the only reason why I jumped in. 201 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: I like, honestly, I would still be fine if you 202 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: guys want to keep talking. And then no, no, no, 203 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: no no. At this point, if we were to keep talking, 204 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: that would be crazy, that would be insane. That would 205 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: be bonkers. So you, Dora, give us the lowdown before 206 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: we fully get into it. Where are you mentally and 207 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: spiritually right now? And even if you they want to 208 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: say physically, you know, physically, I'm actually in a pretty 209 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm in a real good place physically. Yeah yeah, I think, 210 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: honestly the best place I've ever been, Yeah, ever in 211 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: my life. I work out three times a week. I 212 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: never used to do that. Wow. Yeah. I thought you're 213 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: gonna say times a day and I was like, three 214 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: times a week. I was like, she's crazy. Oh no, no, no, no, 215 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: it's your routine. I just do like the the videos 216 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: like on YouTube, Like I'm very everybody's into the pop 217 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: sugar fitness stuff. That's where I've started. Wait, yeah, that's 218 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: what someone sent me. Really is that? Like, is everyone 219 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: doing that? I think so? I think, especially like in Quarantine, 220 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: that's everybody's solution to not being able to go to 221 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: the gym. Can I ask something, what is the deal 222 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: with pop sugar? What? And this is a question that 223 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: many people are afraid to ask, what is the deal 224 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: with pop shars? Because here's a pop sugar I think 225 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: is such it is so emblematic of like m dare 226 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: I say late capitalism. No, It's like it's impossible to 227 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: understand what it is. And yet you know, is it 228 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: run by the army? Is it run by um, General Mills, 229 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: the giant corporation? Is it run by both? Is that 230 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: there is no name to Pop Sugar, there's no like 231 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: face behind it. It's truly it's a it's a it's 232 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: a giant corporation that makes no accountability for giant corporate. 233 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: If you were to tell me that it it made 234 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: a billion dollars a day, I believe you. If you 235 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: were to tell me it has literally never made any 236 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: money because it actually has no product that it's offering, 237 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: I would also believe you. I mean, in my mind, 238 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: Pop Sugar is like a digital um kind of BuzzFeed knockoff. 239 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: But then suddenly, okay, it's a workout company. Yeah, I 240 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: have no idea. I totally agree with you, and you're 241 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: so right in that, Like for some reason, I've never 242 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: deigned to ask what is going on here? I've just 243 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: accepted it. But I agree, Like it's fitness, but I 244 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: think it's also like fashion. It's one of those things 245 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: that's a lifestyle, which means absolutely nothing. You know how 246 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: like that thing about like cooking a frog, like you 247 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: bring it to a boil and it doesn't notice it's 248 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: being cooked, versus like putting a frog in hot water 249 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: and it hops out Like well, it's to be like 250 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: here's the thing that does sound like something I've heard before. 251 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: I could not tell you what it means, and in fact, 252 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: your description did not help me. It means like like 253 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: sometimes when you when things are like slowly amped up, 254 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: you just accepted as normal the whole way, versus like 255 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: starting at the top and you will be like, this 256 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: is weird. Pop Sugar did that to us, Like Pop 257 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: Sugar has Yeah, it's been like around quietly always and 258 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: we've never questioned it now like it's like, now it's 259 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: been around for what fifteen years? What is this website? Yeah, 260 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: and we just accepted as normal. Whereas if we're introduced 261 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: right now, we would be like this is weird, but 262 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: we can't because it's been around for fifteen years. About 263 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: a lot of things in our culture, a lot of people, 264 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people. I think Joe Jo was kind 265 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: of an example of that's true. Jojo, See what if 266 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: you were to now boil her? You know who knows 267 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: what would happened, but she's been in that hot tub 268 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: for years? Is oh you you gotta look her up, 269 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: you'll freak wait, I want you to look crap. And 270 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: then also reconsider the fact that I want my child 271 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: army to look like that, and then I want you 272 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: to react, Oh wait, I do know who this is. Okay, okay, 273 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: but now do you think it's funny for a child 274 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: army to look like that? Yeah? Okay, that's all I wanted. 275 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, do you know what's crazy about Jojo? 276 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: See what is She's now like? Okay, we have to 277 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: have this really difficult conversation, which is that Jojo si 278 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: was soon is going to have her can't be tamed phase. Yeah, 279 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: she's gonna be like in a birdcage, like writhing around, 280 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be like people are gonna like BuzzFeed 281 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: is gonna be like not the Jojo see what you 282 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: thought you knew? And he is going to go wild 283 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: and then like weird gay guys are going to be like, 284 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: for real, we actually love this, and yeah, there's gonna 285 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: be gay guys that are like if you weren't standing 286 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: her from day one, then like you know, don't get 287 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: on the bandwagon now. I mean the fact that, okay, 288 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: and I can say this because I am a gay guy. 289 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: The fact that gay guys legitimately sometimes like Miley Cyrus 290 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: is like, guys come on like she's not really, Like 291 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 1: she's not a real thing, Like she's jojo Zewa, like 292 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: we we all accept this as normal. She's not normal, 293 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: is am? I upset? I'm upset. In the words of 294 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, that gay guy was me. I like her. 295 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: I like her? Do you like that? What do you 296 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: like about her? I mean, first of all, I fully 297 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: the era where she where, the era where she was 298 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: like puerking on whatever. I you know, it's extremely cringe e. 299 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm in no way trying to defend it. I think 300 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: when she goes back to her roots, she has a 301 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: really good voice, and and she's really good at kind 302 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: of like country esque white music. And um, I actually 303 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: genuinely think she's like a really good vocalist. And I 304 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: think when she stays in her lane, she's good. She's talented. You, Dora, 305 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: what do you think, Um, it's tough. I think I no, 306 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: actually it's not tough. I can conceive that somebody is talented, 307 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: but I still don't have to like them. And I 308 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: agree with that, and I think it took me a while. 309 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of how I Yeah, I mean 310 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: there's other people that like Taylor Swift, forrin, since I 311 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: do think it's talented for some reason, I don't react. 312 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't like like I I have a 313 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: visual negative reaction to it for something, and my ost 314 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: I did. It took me a while to like forgive 315 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: that entire and I understand that it's not my it's 316 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: not my place for anything, But I just mean in 317 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: terms of like me being able to like hear her 318 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: without rolling my eyes, I'm now at a point where 319 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm able to do that. Um. But but yeah, I mean, 320 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: do I think she's kind of annoying? Sure, I'm not 321 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: gonna I'm not. I am in no way going to 322 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: like die defending her. If someone was like she's bad, 323 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, here's the thing about me. Also, 324 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: is like having a good voice is like okay, like sure, 325 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: like every like that's like a bunch of people, Like 326 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: so many people have good voices. That's not like like 327 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: what is Miley Cyrus Like does she have a perspective 328 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: at all. Like her perspective is just like I don't know, 329 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: like I'll do whatever I want at a certain time, 330 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: am I be? I mean getting on the pod. I'll 331 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: tell this to her face. I would say this straight 332 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: to her face. And this doesn't mean like I'm not 333 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: like I'm blasting party in the USA. You know, I'm 334 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: having fun. I'm not a grump for Christ's sake. That 335 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: being said, she's jojo Ziba okay Yo doora. Who is 336 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: your problematic? Faith? Wow? Faith? I feel that they have 337 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: a lot of them. I'm trying to think I have one, 338 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: and I will. I will say who it is after 339 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: your say, here's dang. I really gotta think. I'm not 340 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: sure sure. I guess maybe I don't know if she's 341 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: in my favor, but I do enjoy her. I like 342 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: um Doja cat, but she's always in a lot of trouble. 343 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: It seems like yeah, and I'm not up to date 344 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: on this, so please don't go off on me, Sam. 345 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: But in my mind, Doja caut the things that she's 346 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: getting in trouble for are It's like she was in 347 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: chat rooms and she was like sixteen. Am I wrong? 348 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: That's the current thing that's like happening now, and I'm 349 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: not I'm also not like up to date on that either, 350 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: but I feel like prior to that too, she was 351 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: like accused like she was homophobic or transphobic. There's a 352 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: lot of other stuff. Yeah, that was going on. Well, 353 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: I would like to say I denounced homophobia and transphobia brave. 354 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: That is a slave um and not a lot of 355 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: people can say that. But I would also like to 356 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: say that I really like that song where she goes bitch, 357 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm a cow. And then I also really like say So. 358 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: I think say So it's like a really good song. 359 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't feel about Doja Cat, Like, like do I 360 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: how long will she be around? Like do I have 361 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: to you know, sign up for an account with her? 362 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: Do I need to like stick around for her? Or 363 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: do I can I just like stay quiet for like 364 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: another year and she'll be on No, in my mind, 365 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm on the free trial. But yeah, you never know 366 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: what they're going to start target. My problematic faith that 367 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: I still have an account with actually is definitely a 368 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: Zelia Banks. She could she can say whatever she wants. 369 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll listen to every single new song the 370 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: Banks is you want to be like whatever, like she's 371 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: actually always right, and then someone reminds me of like 372 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: something she said and you're like, oh god right, like 373 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: it really it really is like so terrible. Like however, 374 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: the thing with her which is so crazy and it's 375 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: so it's really usually not the case with people who 376 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: are quote unquote messy. Like that is that Azalia Banks's 377 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: music is fully separate from her from this like persona, 378 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: Like her music is always so carefully made and well done, 379 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: and it's even if she has beef with somewhere anything, 380 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: she won't release like a really kind of like um, 381 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, bad dis track that that you know, uh, 382 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: that's like really roughly done. Like it's always like incredibly 383 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: well produced, innovative music. And then in her personal life 384 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: she'll just like suddenly say something really racist. You're right, Yeah, 385 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: the music is impeccable, It's what. Yeah, the music is 386 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: so good. I mean I could and and more so 387 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: than other people, Like the consistency is even more so 388 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: than than people who are technically better you could argue 389 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: at least like better musicians than her. I mean even 390 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: someone like Kanye like has his ups and downs. I 391 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: feel like it's banks literally every song is good. Is 392 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: that is that crazy? I'm gonna go ahead, and that's 393 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: not crazy, I feel No. I think like she's somebody 394 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: who I don't understand, like how her trajectory, like you said, 395 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: it's just always on an incline, like it's always always 396 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: getting better. But yeah, I agree with you that. I 397 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: I love to listen to that music and then you know, 398 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: you remember what happened. You remember it's it's dark, it's tough. 399 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: It's also tough two, because you're right in that like 400 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff when you can like sift through 401 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: the sewage, there is, you know, something of value that 402 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: she's trying to like explain, and I feel like a 403 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: lot of it. Yeah, I remember specifically there was and 404 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: when she was on the Breakfast Club maybe like at 405 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: this point, like four or five years ago. It was 406 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: actually a really good interview and like I watched the 407 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: whole thing, all right, listen the whole thing rather and 408 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I think she was like making very 409 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: very good points, like countering things people were trying to 410 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: kind of like project onto her. But then the next 411 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: she'll wake up and she'll like like literally say something 412 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: incredibly racist about Zane from one direction, and you're like, well, 413 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: what's the end game here? I have no idea, but 414 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: you're right, that's one though. That's a very very good, 415 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: problematic fave. Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you. I 416 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: do think that's, to be fair, that was actually problematic. 417 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: It's a problematic fave of most weight gay man. I know. 418 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: So I don't want to. I don't want the two 419 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: of us to take too much credit. Sam, do you 420 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: think it's time to do our first segment? Weirdly, I 421 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: think it might be okay, okay, So our first segment 422 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: is called straight Shooters, and um we give you like 423 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: a series of rapid fire questions and it's sort of 424 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: just to determine your familiarity with straight culture. Um, so 425 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: we'll give you like an A or a B, and 426 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: you pick one and you and the one rule is 427 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: that you can't ask, like what the rules of the game. 428 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: You have to just pick one. And the other rule 429 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: is like please like don't overthink it, like, and then 430 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: the third rule is don't underthink it because if you're 431 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 1: not like right in the middle, we'll tell. Yeah, we have, 432 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean, and we'll tell and we won't even have. 433 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: We'll make eyes at each other and be like, well 434 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: she failed. Okay, I'm afraid. Okay, your doora bagels or 435 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: be Allies bagels. Okay, your Dora Flavor Town or Funky Town, 436 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: Funky Town jelly or jam Jam Anchorman or Anchorman two Anchorman. Okay, 437 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: no doubt. Gwen Stefani, Hara Juca Girls, Gwen Stefani, you 438 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: can arrest. It's fine, okay. Um mowing the grass while shirtless, 439 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: or being a lifeguard, being a lifeguard, toaster or toaster 440 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: oven to or of them? I'm out of one? Okay, 441 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: a self help book written by a woman named Carla, 442 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: or a coffee table book with a bunch of drawings 443 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: of root vegetables, root vegetables. Okay? Correct? Wow, Sam, all right, 444 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: So we have decided that this game will henceforth be 445 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: rated out of one thousand doves, which is a song 446 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: on the New Lady Ganga album Chromatica. So out of 447 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: one thousand doves, Sam, what do you think your door 448 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: gets two doves? That is spot on? Wait, okay, since 449 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: are we done with the game? Yes, so can I 450 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: ask about it? Or no? Yeah? I mean you can, 451 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: But we're gonna get mad. Okay, well I'm gonna tell 452 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: you about it. Then wait, when you were giving those questions, 453 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: I was just choosing things that like I want, I like. 454 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking about, like maybe you're supposed to 455 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: choose things at the straight people woul choose, but I choose. 456 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: It's different for everyone. Some people choose the straight straighter option, 457 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: and some people choose what they themselves would choose, and 458 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: then neither one is right or wrong. It's more of 459 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: a matter of, like what you're if we can tell 460 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: that you're doing something in good faith. The game is 461 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: set up as a trap. It's for people to fall 462 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: into and inherently fail. There is no succeeding on this 463 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: podcast in general, even I would, I mean, even the 464 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: fact that you were rated nine and eighty two doves. 465 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: That's actually the worst possible rating you to get. It's 466 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: not a linear scale. It's both the worst and the best. 467 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: It's a lot, but it's a lot. I mean, think 468 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: about how many I cannot stop thinking about one thousand 469 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: doves the song by Lady Gaga Door. Have you heard 470 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: the song one thousand Doves by Lady Gaga? I haven't 471 00:27:50,920 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: listened to it yet. Oh my goodness. If you were 472 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: to release an album, what would the worst song on 473 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: it be called? Probably a thousand Yeah, that is correct, 474 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: you get a thousand doves for that answer them. Okay, 475 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: you know what. I'm happy to just I'm happy to 476 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: free fall into this podcast. Okay, okay, now, and now 477 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: we're there. Okay, if you're listening, the podcast starts now. Okay, um, 478 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: so our topic today is did you already forget it? 479 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: I remember it's the Beatles. Oh yeah, that's right. The 480 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: the Beatles covered one thousand doves. It would be bad. 481 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: It would still be bad. Okay, when songs are bad, 482 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: it makes them good in a way. Yeah, no, that's true. 483 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: What do you think when a song is bad? You 484 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: think it makes it good? I think, honestly, if the 485 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: song is bad, then it's good for me because if 486 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: you like this song, then I know about you. Whoa. 487 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: You know? Music is so social? Music is so social. See, 488 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: I like specifically when Lady this this podcast is obviously 489 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: about the Beatles. When Lady Gaga is bad, I find 490 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: that as fun as when she is good. Oh, if 491 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: not more so. Yeah, like Caromatica, I'm happy. Obviously this 492 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: podcast is about the Beatles. That being said, Caromatica, I 493 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: think is so good in like a classic sense that 494 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: when there's those little moments of bad like i'm talking 495 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars, I'm talking plastic doll, I'm in heaven 496 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: because I need her to be I can't have her 497 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: be smarter than me. And when when she is dumb, 498 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: I get feel good and when she's good, I get 499 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: to feel good. But I need both. This is obviously 500 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: about the Beatles, but all that being said, this is 501 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: how we feel about Lady Gaga. Yeah, so in terms 502 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: of the Beatles, um you doora, what's your favorite Lady 503 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: Gaga album? To be honest, I don't really know the 504 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga like albums. I know her singles, but I'm 505 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: not like a I'm not a huge fan. I'm not 506 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: saying that I hate her dislike, but it's one of 507 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: those things where I don't like follow her. So I'm 508 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: not don't where I'm not aware. Who is your number 509 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: one like pop star wise? Pop star wise, probably Rihanna. Okay, 510 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: that's my answer. And then I was recently, well not recently, 511 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: was like two years ago, but I was on a 512 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: different book. I was sorry that's recent. Two years, that's 513 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: really recent. I was on a different podcast and I said, 514 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: I love Rihanna and then I was almost chased out 515 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: of the studio by you know what, I'm going to 516 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: call him out. My name it Marie Fouston and Sydney Washington. 517 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: Wait what did they say about it? What was their take? Well, 518 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: their take, which I understand, is that Rihanna is like 519 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: not a not as good as a live performer as 520 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: Mania for contemporaries. But then I said, and they were like, 521 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: would you ever see Rianna alive? And they just both 522 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: laughed and laughed, just these evil, maleficent laughs. And then 523 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, and I said, you know what, 524 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: Sydney Washington and Marie Foston, I have seen her live. 525 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: I went to the Anti World tour with my friend 526 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: from college, Chrissie, and you know what, we had a 527 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 1: really good time and I was completely sober and I 528 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: was having a ball throughout. And I actually think she's 529 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: a great dancer alive. I have to tell you, listen, 530 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: I love Sydney Marie. I disagree with them about like 531 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: things whatever. But the thing about Rihanna, here's the thing. 532 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: I would much rather go to Rihanna concert than an 533 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande concert, because yes, Ariana Granda ken sing, but 534 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: what is she's not saying anything I want to hear? 535 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Obviously this podcast is about the Beatles 536 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: and the fact that you would bring up McCartney. Yeah, 537 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: I went there when McCartney McCartney right now on on 538 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: our podcast on other Beatles. It's it's unnecessary and it's 539 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: every while and I don't care, you know, speaking of 540 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: the Beatles. In the song four seconds, Paul McCartney duets 541 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: with Rihanna, the international pop star and makeup mogul. Yeah, 542 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: and not to mention problematic faith Kanye West. Yes, yes, yes, 543 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm not in the head space to talk about Kanye West, 544 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: but that's not Yeah, Okay, I would agree. I mean 545 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: I think Rihanna is like Rihanna is a platonic ideal 546 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: of like how someone who's really popular can also you know, 547 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: have challenged, can put out innovative and challenging music. Yes, 548 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: would you agree with that? Yeah? And I also just 549 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: feel like she's just like it's the same thing kind 550 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: of with like people who kind of like push back 551 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: with like Aaliyah, you know, Elia is not like the 552 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: best like vocalist or whatever her, but she has a 553 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: whole like there's a whole attitude and there's like this 554 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: whole like there's so much more aspiration. I feel like involved, 555 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: Like I want to, like I want to wear the 556 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: clothes that she's wearing. I want to go where she's going. 557 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: I just want to be around her. I want to 558 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: be immersed in this world. And it just I don't know, 559 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: it just sounds much more like complete. Like Sam was saying, 560 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: tons of people can sing very well. I don't need 561 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: to care about singing, to be honest, I barely Like 562 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: I don't even like singing that much. I don't like singing. 563 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: You can do to sing. It's like, all right, well, congrats, 564 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: you know awesome, you got an a you like you're 565 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: good at you know, I just made a pot of coffee. 566 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: You know, I don't deserve an award. Yeah, Like do 567 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: people get awards for being like tall? Like who cares? 568 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: Like in sports? Yeah yeah, but the sport where you 569 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: are tall, yeah you know you have to reach That 570 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite sport, the sport where you 571 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: just be Don't you think that sports would be so 572 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: much better if we cut out the middleman and just 573 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: awarded people who are tall, like rather than having them 574 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: jump through hoops and like you know, be divided into 575 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: like hockey and basketball and football. Just like pick the 576 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: tallest people, give them awards, then pick the widest people, 577 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: give them different awards, and then just fucking move on, 578 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: and we can debate about singers and pop music. The 579 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: idea that you have to create this entire universe around 580 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 1: what is essentially just giving people awards from being tall 581 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: and wide. George, this is the smartest thing you've ever 582 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: said in your entire and this is making me think 583 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: in such a big way, Like the amount of energy 584 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: we put into like building courts, like literally like build 585 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: a school. We could find so many child armies of Joe. 586 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: Just was with the money that we put into building 587 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: basketball courts. Oh my god. Just and like we're not 588 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: taking anything away, like the tall people get awards still 589 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: and it's beautiful. Yeah, no, it's true. And you know what, Okay, 590 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: I just because this is about the Beatles, I want 591 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: to go back to Rihanna for a second. So we 592 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: have this uh semi recurring segment where we asked the 593 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: question is she there yet? And this was inspired by 594 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: our old guest, um Celeste Yem And basically it's just 595 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: like we pick a person and we say, is she 596 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: there yet? And I think Rihanna is the is like 597 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: an ideal example of someone who is there yet? Yeah. 598 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: I think what you're saying in terms of like the 599 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: combination of music, personality, vibe like um kind of like 600 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: very conscious choices. Even the fact that like other people 601 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: who you know, I won't name, do things like put 602 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: out clothing lines and makeup lines and stuff almost as 603 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: like as kind of just like something to do to 604 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: make money. Whereas Rihanna, I feel like even those those 605 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: things with more in a more conscious manner. So it's 606 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, I mean, imagine a world 607 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: in which um, everyone was like that. That's beautiful. I mean, 608 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: considering that this podcast is solely about the Beatles, is 609 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande there yet? Okay? I want to hear your 610 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: doors answer to this. No, I mean I'm just not 611 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: an Ariana Grande fan. You don't think she's there yet? No? 612 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: I think I think like the big difference also from 613 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: me too, is like authenticity. I feel like Rihanna feels 614 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: like as authentic as a pop star can be Rihanna 615 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: feels that to me as a question, like Ariana grand Damn, 616 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: Like I you try to convince me that you were 617 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: Latin next, so like I don't you know? That is true? 618 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: And it's it's one of those things that weirdly like 619 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: comes up every few months and then there's like a 620 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: viral tweet about it and then everyone's like, okay, well 621 00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: they addressed it, and then Ariana Grande comes out and 622 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: it's just like it's no, wait, speaking of you know, 623 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande ultimately Italian American culture, that's true. Do you 624 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: know what's Greek culture? Though Marina and the Diamonds, She's 625 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: Greek and no one cares about her. So real, even 626 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: I don't care about that. No, it's crazy talk about 627 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: someone who's not there yet. Okay, interesting. I think what 628 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm getting intoor is that you do think Ariana Grande 629 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: is there yet, but that there is not somewhere you 630 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: want to go exactly. Yeah, I agree for most people, 631 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: I think she is definitely there. And like I said, 632 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: I don't like she is incredibly talented. I'm not disputing 633 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: that or trying to negate that, but yeah, but it's 634 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: like in this climate no, please, do not negate her 635 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: talent in this climate that fell when you negate Ariana Grande. 636 00:37:53,880 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: I would never do that, never, ever, ever. But like 637 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: I said, it's like, but do I actually want to 638 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: listen to any of the songs? No? I don't, I 639 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: will say kind of. I have the opposite feeling where 640 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: it's like, do I like dream about Ariana Grande is 641 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: like vision? Like do I like get in her world? 642 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Do I want to listen to those songs 643 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: all the time? Yeah, I mean the songs hit, the 644 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: songs do not hit. The songs don't hit. Oh my god, 645 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: you're insane. I'm a little bit somewhere. I'm somewhere in 646 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: the middle with this because I'm so here comes both sides, George. Yeah, no, 647 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: I'm so empathetic to different viewpoints that really I could 648 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 1: be pulled in any different direction. I should write for 649 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: the New York Times opinion section. Sure, bla bla bla 650 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: black Wait, Sam, so what is what's what's the Ariana 651 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: grund is ari on a Grande song that hits for you? 652 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm the spot, Yeah, I mean the number one, considering 653 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: this the podcast about the Beatles, right, the Ariana Grande 654 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: song that is essential viewing is into You? How does that? 655 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 1: You know what? Ultimately I would agree with that. I'm 656 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: so in do You? I can barely breathe whoa, whoa, 657 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love your work that one. And 658 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: it's like a bet up but but but but but 659 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I want it a little. That sounds like 660 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: a little less conversation, a little more, that's what. Yes, 661 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: it sounds like she's she's she's playing, she's referencing it. 662 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's an homage um to Elvis talk about 663 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: someone who was who was also Latin. Yeah, Elvis is 664 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: one of my favorite Latino performers. Do you really so 665 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: you don't know the song Into You by Arianna? Here 666 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: are you singing? And I'm like, oh, I'm aware of 667 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: this song. But I guess there's just a lot of 668 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: songs like that where they just like, to me, they 669 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: just don't do anything for me. I don't know what 670 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: it is. And the thing is, I'm not even a 671 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: pop snob, like I'm not like there are Katy Perry 672 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: songs and I'm like, I understand why this is a hit, 673 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: I understand why this is so popular, But to me, 674 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: I just I don't know, Okay, yeah, I do think 675 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: how you feel about Ariana was how I felt about 676 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: Katie for the longest time. And I really have to 677 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: get into a dumb part of my brain to be like, 678 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to listen to a Katy Perry song. But ultimately, 679 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I do think I'm getting dumb as I'm 680 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: getting older, and I think now at this point that song. 681 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: She released a couple of maybe like a year ago, 682 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: Harley's in Hawaii, UM, which is about writing Harley's in 683 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: the state of Hawaii, and in the video she is, 684 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: in fact on a motorcycle in Hawaii. UM. And I 685 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: heard that song and I was I was like, this 686 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: is good Katy Perry. You know, Katy Perry made a 687 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: whole career out of the dumb parts of TAGA. When 688 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: Gaga is dumb, Katy Perry was like, I'm going to 689 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: do that, Like I'm gonna do that entirely. Yes, yes, 690 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: I totally agree. But yeah, Katy Perry. Again, I don't 691 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: like her, but I understand it. I understand her, though, 692 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: I get what you think. Who do you think of 693 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 1: the pop stars is most influenced by the Beatles? Isn't 694 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 1: that a hard question. I'm trying to think, Um, none 695 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: of them, Yeah, I think they were all like yeah, no, 696 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: like I think I think Katy Perry listened to a 697 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: Beatles album and was like, I'm good. That's definitely what 698 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: happened with You're like, no, I don't want to Yeah, 699 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't really know actually like the only but I 700 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: don't know if you would consider them pop stars Like 701 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: One Direction does that count? Oh like other boys like 702 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: boy bands? Yeah, undoubtedly, I mean and sync is you 703 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: know you you see the influence right friend center? Okay, 704 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: I have to say about the Beatles. Yeah, when when 705 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: boys do pop songs, it's kind of like why like 706 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: don't don't like it when boys? Wait? Why? Okay? Are 707 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: you a Harry Styles person? Oh? I love Harry Styles. Yeah. 708 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,919 Speaker 1: I am like one of those people who I had 709 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: no I didn't know who he was when One Direction 710 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: was around, but once he was out of that, I 711 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: was like, oh who was this guy? I got to 712 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 1: know this guy? I love Harry Styles. For me, Harry 713 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: Styles is just like I think that I guess I 714 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: would say I feel about m I just don't I think, 715 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, talk about someone who is influenced by the Beatles, 716 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, And that's so true, I'm going 717 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,919 Speaker 1: to stop for sure. I would love if podcasts had 718 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: um sort of cover art in like a classic sense. 719 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: I would love a poster of this episode with a 720 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: poll quote on it that says I love Harry Styles you, 721 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: Dora Peterson. You know that? To me? Is the takeaway 722 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: quote from me? Why does that rattle that I love him? 723 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: You're so hard on all these women and then when 724 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 1: a man puts out mediocre music he from me, Wait 725 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: a minute, wait a minute, white women, Because what do 726 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 1: you think I love Rihanna? Well, you know your hard 727 00:43:53,440 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: on women him and not hard? Okay, cool, interesting, awesome, 728 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: awesome sauce, Okay. The Beatles, the Beatles, Baby? Who could 729 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 1: forget the Beetles? What do you think is Doja Cat's 730 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: favorite Beatles song? Um? Did you ever watch that musical 731 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: about the Beatle? Not about the Beatles with Beetles music 732 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: with Evan rachel Wood across the universe? Me? Neither? So anyway, 733 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: does anyone else have anything they want to talk about 734 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: the Beatles? Baby? Yes, here's what I will say about 735 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: the Beatles. I knew what the Beatles were as a band. 736 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: Before I knew what the insect beetle was, so I 737 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: actually thought that beetle was spelled with an A and 738 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was a terrible pun on the 739 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: word beetle where they changed it to being beat I 740 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: would like to add on to this and say that 741 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: I recently misspelled the word skin in a text thread. 742 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: How would you do that? How's it spelled? I wrote? 743 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: I wrote the word skincare and for some reason I 744 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 1: wrote s C I N kid sin care to have 745 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: written skin wrong in a text thread? It hurts, I think. 746 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: So maybe that's how the Beatles feel. When they did 747 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: a type over their name, there was some kind of lobby. 748 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 1: Do you think? What? What kind of lobby do you 749 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: think is in charge of promoting the Beatles generation after 750 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: generation so we never forget them other than the military 751 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: and the postcard. Uh. I don't know, will our kids 752 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: know about them or will that be dead? No? I 753 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: feel like the people who white boyfriends, those are the 754 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: people who are in charge of And this is no 755 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: disrespect to my white boyfriend. He's like, honestly, he's lukewarm 756 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: on the Beatles, but this is like, that's pretty much 757 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: why I know about the Beatles because of him. Yeah, 758 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: that's why you're dating him, because I want to know 759 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 1: more about the Beatles. Yeah, but I's like, what, I 760 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 1: can't listen to the music right now. You you actually 761 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: have to commit. You have to commit to a relationship 762 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: with a white man if you even are interested in 763 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: the Beatles, even if it's a passing interest, I mean you, 764 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: they can take years of your life. I'm like having 765 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: a hard look in the mirror right now, and I'm 766 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: like thinking about like the Beatles members solo albums I 767 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: put on, and I'm like, wait a minute, I'm the 768 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: white boyfriend within the white boyfriend the whole time. I 769 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: have a point about the Beatles. If you don't have 770 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: a white boyfriend, you are the white boyfriend. Look to 771 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: your left, look to your right. One of you is 772 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: the white boyfriend. And every I think, in every relationship, 773 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,479 Speaker 1: regardless of sexuality or race, there is a white boyfriend. Yeah, 774 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: and you know what I'm I'm that's really one of 775 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: the best points I've ever made. I do want to 776 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: say about the Doles, And this is the second best 777 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: point I've ever made. I think the Beatles exist so 778 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: that um female singer songwriters can cover their songs sure, 779 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,879 Speaker 1: like yeah, like Apple, like Fiona Apple or Amy Man 780 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: or like whoever else. Like, I think that's why the 781 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: Beatles exist, so that Fiona Apple can cover across the 782 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: universe and then I can listen to it when I'm sixteen. Yeah, 783 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, yeah, to be fair, like I know 784 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 1: Fiona Apple as well as I know the Beatles. That's fair. Well, 785 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: you would love this cover, then I'll send it to 786 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: your boyfriend. Interesting, you know the I mean I've mentioned 787 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: this on the podcast before, but it's like how Beyonce 788 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: covered Sex on Fire by whatever that band is called, 789 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: Kings of Leads of Leon Leon King Leon. Wow. Well, 790 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: have we covered the Beatles enough? Do you think? Absolutely not? No, 791 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say hard no, Um the Beatles. 792 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: Do you guys remember that movie, not the one that 793 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: George brought up, but the other one where the guy 794 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: gets bunked on the head and oh my god, to 795 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 1: bring that up yesterday it was called Yesterday? Did anyone 796 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,959 Speaker 1: watch that? Oh my god? We need to stop bringing 797 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 1: up movies that none of us have seen, to be fair, like, 798 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: who would watch that? Yeah? Maybe? Um, maybe your door's boyfriend. Sorry, 799 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 1: I keep I keep drag it. You've never met him, 800 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: and he I don't, and you would watch it. You know, 801 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: I have met him, and the whole time, you know, 802 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: whenever we're together, he's talking about the film yesterday. Yeah, 803 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: he's obsessed. You know, I haven't met him. But I 804 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: would say in the same way that the city of 805 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: New York is the fifth character and sex in the city. 806 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: Don't do it. I think in many respects, his boyfriend 807 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: is the fifth Beatle. Oh that's what I thought you're 808 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: going to say. And I was like, don't do that. 809 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, I wasn't smart to make the most obvious joke. Interesting. 810 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: Did you guys have a point in school, like high school, 811 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: where you were like, Okay, I'm supposed to like the Beatles. Now, 812 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 1: still to this day, I'm like, wait, fuck, should I 813 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: should I do the deep dive? And because here's the thing, 814 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: and this is a really difficult truth about the Beatles. 815 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: As much as so many white boyfriends like them, often 816 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: people who are not white boyfriends will decide to do 817 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: a deep dive and then be like they're actually, like 818 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: really good. I think one of the biggest problems with 819 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: the Beatles said they're actually probably good. Yeah, yeah, unfortunately, 820 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: and we have to live with that. Like they're not 821 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 1: as much as you want to dismiss them, They're actually good. 822 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: This happened to me like an elementary school. That's how 823 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: Like early on it was like beat into me that 824 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: I need to be aware and understand the Beatles. And 825 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: so there's a part that's sort of like, Okay, I 826 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: guess technically they're good, but like I enjoyed the Beatles 827 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,919 Speaker 1: the most when I was maybe seven years what nine 828 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: years old? M hm, So how could could it be? Yeah? 829 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: I mean they do create music that's so how could 830 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 1: that be? How good could it be? Yeah? I mean 831 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: it's I say this all the time that Carly rage 832 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 1: Epson writes adult nursery rhymes, and I do think the 833 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 1: Beatles also. I mean it's interesting. It's this. It's like 834 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: one could argue that their music is like perfectly constructed 835 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: pop music, but then one could also argue that if 836 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: if pop music is perfectly constructed, that makes it so 837 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: simple that it is in fact four children. So is 838 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:17,439 Speaker 1: it good or is it bad? M hmmm? Whoa, you're 839 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,800 Speaker 1: saying the Beatles music is four kids? I'm saying it 840 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 1: is the it is constructed in such a in such 841 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: a quote unquote perfect way without you know, in the 842 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 1: same way that like a simple nursery rhyme is constructed 843 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: so you're able to appreciate it even if you're a child. 844 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: Just like your doorra baby baby Einstein over here. I 845 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: love that you started to say baby genius and then 846 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 1: you walked it back. Baby is a more specific reference. Well, 847 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 1: I mean I saw the hit film Baby Geniuses one 848 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,399 Speaker 1: and two. That's right, That's right. Oh, I'm glad we've 849 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: all seen Baby Geniuses one and two, but not any 850 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: movie about the Beatles. The topic of our podcast. Well, 851 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: it's not that this podcast isn't about movies we've seen. 852 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: It's about things we don't know that. That's why it 853 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 1: We have a long way to go. There are many 854 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 1: many potential topics. Interesting. Um, I thought I had a 855 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: point about the Beatles, but I actually don't. Yeah. Well, 856 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: I think what we've really learned is that I remember. 857 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: So I think it's incredible to dismiss things like when 858 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: we were talking about I love to dismiss, you know, 859 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 1: and I'm often wrong, like I watched The Office, I 860 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: mean a few years ago. I'm I'm Josh, and about 861 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: the Office, I'm saying, this show sucks. Who watches it? 862 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 1: Then I decided to watch it. It's incredible, it's you know, 863 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 1: it's funny, it's until it's good, it's I don't know. 864 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,879 Speaker 1: And so I think, like, I guess what I'm saying 865 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: is no. I mean, I just I love the term. 866 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: And this has taken of Sam praising the Office, like 867 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: we're trying to talk about the Beatles. No one has 868 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: anything to say it SAMs like, well, the Office is good, Okay, 869 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: the Beatles are the Office of music. I think that's 870 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's interesting. I I see what you're 871 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: saying that two, because I feel like a lot of 872 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,720 Speaker 1: people who who pushed back, I guess against the Office 873 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 1: are really pushing back against the fan base. Yes, yes, 874 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: like And I think, honestly, that could honestly be my 875 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 1: issue me with the Beatles. I think maybe I'm more 876 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 1: resistant to all the people who insist that I need 877 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 1: to like it. But maybe if me the Beatles exist 878 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: in a vacuum, I might enjoy it. You, Dora, I 879 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: have a question to imagine in your head. The ideal 880 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: Beatles listener, Now describe to me what they are wearing. 881 00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:03,919 Speaker 1: They're wearing sweaters. I think there were sweaters cardigans, um cardigans, 882 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: which isn't I mean, no dis against I mean some 883 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 1: of so many people we know we're sweaters. Some of 884 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: our greatest figures in history where you know, this is 885 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: something I read the other day. Every American president has 886 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: Warren a sweater. That's that's when you actually think about 887 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 1: that statistic. That's crazy. And all American presidents are good 888 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: people inherently, that's how they got elected. They are well, 889 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how democracy works there. They are the 890 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: best people available at any given Yeah, it's so crazy 891 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: that the two best people in America are Joe Biden 892 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,399 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump. And it was really hard to narrow 893 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: it down to two because there's so many good people 894 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: in the world. But the fact that we've finally got 895 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: there through our awesome process is good. Oh my god, 896 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: it's so good. It warms my heart into and you know, 897 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: the the fact that I get the opportunity to decide, 898 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: to contribute to the decision of which one of them 899 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: is number one and which one of them is number two. 900 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it really is is like is it's almost 901 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,839 Speaker 1: like I'm one of the judges and judging how tall 902 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: people are for the Sports Awards. The fact that that 903 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,320 Speaker 1: I will walk into that booth and just be unable 904 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,919 Speaker 1: to make a wrong decision is amazing because both it's 905 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: just just I don't know, flip pick the tallest one. 906 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: Do you think we should um apply my uh suggestion 907 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 1: for sports also to politics and only elect the tallest 908 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: and widest people. I actually think that would be really 909 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 1: helpful if we found the tallest person and just made 910 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: them president because they were tall. It would I do 911 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 1: think maybe we can I'm trying to think. You know, 912 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: obviously height and UH and width are often also dependent. 913 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean, on average, men are taller than women. On average, 914 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: men are wider than women. Not always, um, but but 915 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: often that's the case. So maybe there's a way to 916 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: adjust for gender, or maybe in fact we can only 917 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: elect women, but it has to be tall women. She 918 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 1: better be tall. Yeah, that would be a great campaign 919 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: slor exactly. It's you know, you know, Eudora Peterson Peterson, 920 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:33,359 Speaker 1: and she's tall. I can even see like CNN commentators 921 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: being like, now, you know, Jennifer is a tough candidate. 922 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 1: She's six one and and then they'll be like, but Rebecca, 923 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: you you got to look at this the facts. She's 924 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 1: six too, and that'll be sort of the full debate. Yeah, 925 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: and they'll be like, oh, well, you know, but if 926 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 1: you factor in the hair, you know, you know, and 927 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: then she was wearing platform shoes. Now we have a dialogue, 928 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: we could just runs smear campaign, just feel like she's 929 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: actually five five, like you can just do you think that? 930 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 1: In fact? On average, like in all seriousness, if we 931 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: were the only debate about who's taller, we would end 932 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: up just kind of through sheer luck, electing better people 933 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: than who currently do. Because I think yes, I actually 934 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: think yes, yeah, I think so too cool, Well, we 935 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: figured out politics. Should we move on to our last segments? Sam, 936 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah? I think we've covered um the 937 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 1: Beatles to a really deep extent. I think anyone listening 938 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: to this if there's anything we didn't cover, like, feel 939 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: free to talk to us about it. But I'm pretty 940 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: sure we got it. So our final segment, you Dora, 941 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 1: is called shoutouts, and UM it is, you know, a 942 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 1: homage to um, a straight ritual of giving a shout out. 943 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 1: So we pick uh, something that we enjoy and we 944 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: just sort of pop off about it for a moment, 945 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 1: and I feel like you have to get in the 946 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: mindset of imagine you're in Times Square, it's two thousand two, 947 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: you're um screaming the cameras on you, and you're yelling 948 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: to everybody back home at your high school. Um. So 949 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 1: that's what we'll go first, and uh, pick something, George, 950 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: do you have one? I mean, if I'm going to 951 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 1: be fully honest with you, I don't have one. Do you? Um? Yeah? Okay, great, um, okay, okay, okay, 952 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: what's up, listeners? UM. I just want to give a 953 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: quick shout out to Lake Michigan. I am here in 954 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: Michigan with my parents. I'm lame, I'm stupid. I give up. 955 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: Who cares fucking kill me if you have to, But 956 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm and I am getting into awful moods as for usual. 957 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: And then I will go take a dip in beautiful 958 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 1: Orgiana Lake Michigan, and I just let that frigid water 959 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 1: wash over me and immediately I'm in a better mood. 960 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: It's like it's huge, the water is clear, and it 961 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 1: doesn't stink like fish. I love this lake. I wish 962 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: they weren't boats on it. But I'll let them do 963 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 1: what they want because I'm not trying to you know, 964 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 1: yuck anybody's yum. I love Lake Michigan. I love my life, 965 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: and I love my squad xl X. Oh Sam, Wait, 966 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 1: are you close enough? But I don't know how Michigan 967 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: is set up. But you're just by the lake. Yeah, 968 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 1: it's like across the street. Are you kidding? I love 969 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how Michigan is set up, and you 970 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: know what, I don't either. I truly relate to that sentiment. Yeah, 971 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 1: it's it's very The town I'm in is like a 972 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: little lake town. Oh okay, okay, okay, because yeah, you 973 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: hear like Michigan and I'm just like you. I would 974 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: assume that you'd have to drive there, but now you're 975 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 1: talking about like you get mad and you just walk 976 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: outside and take a dip. Oh. I slapped my tea 977 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: bows on and I just walk into the water. Wow. Okay, 978 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: well I can, I can? I can do one all right? Ready? Yes, hey, listeners. 979 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 1: I just want to give a quick shout out to 980 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: the idea of writing something privately and not showing it 981 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 1: to anyone. The thing that I have recently discovered and 982 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: did not know was an option. Recently, I tweeted something 983 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: because someone replied and that reply was stupid. And then 984 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 1: I wrote a paragraph on response to it and saved 985 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 1: it as a draft in my emails and read it 986 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: and I took in fact, I read it over and 987 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 1: I realized I have intense anger whose I need to 988 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 1: work on. And I will be doing that privately in 989 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: my journal that I bought from a website, and when 990 01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 1: it comes oh, will I write on it every single day, 991 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 1: maybe multiple times, in order for me to stay sane 992 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 1: and stop grinding my teeth. Okay, all right, okay your door. 993 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: This is the moment of truth. Okay, I got it 994 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: because this I was enjoying this earlier today. Okay, shout 995 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: out to um things that are on sale but they're 996 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 1: not final sale. I think it's great that I can 997 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: buy this thing at a discount, but it just in 998 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 1: case it doesn't fit me, I can send it back 999 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 1: because it's not final. That's like kryptomites to me. Sometimes 1000 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 1: I get so scared that things are final sale. You 1001 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 1: see it online, You're just like, Oh, I can't teach 1002 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 1: that that leap And yeah, shout out to the you know, 1003 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: I think that things that are on sale but not 1004 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 1: final sale, that's like the bisexuality of being on oh yes, 1005 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 1: because I think it's sort of like open relationship of 1006 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: being on s yeah yeah, or non binary. It's definitely 1007 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 1: questioning an area because it's the idea of being on 1008 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 1: sale but also being able to be returned is nothing. 1009 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess none of it matters. I mean, 1010 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: I definitely think that of that as the norm when 1011 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 1: things are on sale but not final sale and sale 1012 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 1: I in my mind, if something's on sale, usually there 1013 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: are no returns, especially online, so you have to be 1014 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: really careful, which is why it's so frustrating because sometimes 1015 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Often I will want to buy things 1016 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 1: that are like really expensive, and obviously the only way 1017 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 1: I can afford them is that if they're on final sale. 1018 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: But then the thing is, when they're on final sale, 1019 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 1: you can't return them, and obviously they're still expensive. It's 1020 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 1: tough because I feel like most of the time, when 1021 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 1: there's a sale that's good enough for you to like 1022 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: get yourself involved in, it's final. That's the caveat, that's 1023 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 1: the catch, that's the that's the catches. How they get you. 1024 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 1: They're like, well, give it to you at off, but 1025 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 1: you have to keep it. Yeah. Well then it's it's 1026 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 1: kind of like Ursula being like, yeah, I'll give you legs, 1027 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 1: but like, exactly, babe, you can't talk anymore exactly, that's 1028 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: exactly what what you want. You'll get what you want. 1029 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 1: You don't even know. I mean, listen, it's zero dollars, 1030 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 1: but but you're like, you got to keep it as 1031 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 1: you know it is over. Wow, final sale is like Ursula. 1032 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: That's that's really smart. YEP, it's one of the smarter 1033 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 1: things I've said. I think in general, this podcast, needless 1034 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,440 Speaker 1: to say, has been smart start to finish. I just 1035 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 1: want to it says, I just want to dress the 1036 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 1: milphan in the room. I really feel like I um, 1037 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:46,919 Speaker 1: and I hope you don't feel like this, you, Dora. 1038 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I have been taking up so much. 1039 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I have been talking over you, and 1040 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I have been like jumping in constantly, 1041 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to address that. Ultimately, I'm not 1042 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 1: going to change it, but I just wanted to let 1043 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 1: you know that I'm that you do. Do you just 1044 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 1: want to talk? For maybe like four minutes right now, 1045 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 1: and we can sort of intersperse the dropping episode so 1046 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: that George feels less bad. Just say random words and 1047 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 1: we'll edit it into the rest of the episode. No, no, 1048 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm tired. No I don't. Okay, Well, would you like 1049 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 1: to maybe be mean to George for a moment a 1050 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: really offensive name? No? No, all right, Okay, she didn't 1051 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 1: fall for the trap. She passed. Congratulations or you're now 1052 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 1: the co host and in fact the only host. Sam 1053 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 1: and I are both put and you can edit this 1054 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 1: and put it out bow and edited our last one, 1055 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: and then from then on. I mean, it's really up 1056 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 1: to you. And I think it's so important to pass 1057 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 1: the torch onto people who don't want it. Yeah, okay, 1058 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: all right, I think that's the end of our podcast. 1059 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: Um yeah out listen. Congratulations to all three of us. 1060 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 1: And you don't say, how do your boyfriend from me? 1061 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's really he's going to be so 1062 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 1: mad at me that I dragged him into Well, do 1063 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 1: you want to leak his name that people you know don't? 1064 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 1: This podcast is not about docking. We're not doing Don's daughter, 1065 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: and we're not doxing your door's boyfriend. And we love 1066 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 1: all people, and we think that our peaceful child army 1067 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 1: of Joe Josias is only going to make the world 1068 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,200 Speaker 1: a better place, Okay, And that is the end of 1069 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,440 Speaker 1: our pod. Bye, thank you,