Speaker 1: Hi, you guys. If you're jonesing for episodes about the
Speaker 1: actual Bachelor Bachelorette, don't forget. You can always join our Patreon.
Speaker 1: Right now, Anna and I are breaking down Bachelorette New
Speaker 1: Zealand and Real Housewives of New York, but past seasons
Speaker 1: which were all available on there. We do Love is Blind,
Speaker 1: Bachelor Australia, Bachelorette Australia, Bachelor in Paradise Australia, which is incredible.
Speaker 1: So there's so many seasons on there. If you're like Ardent,
Speaker 1: I'm jones in, Hello my bunnies, it's art it. I
Speaker 1: hope you are safe and sound. As you probably noticed,
Speaker 1: there was no episode this Wednesday because there was no
Speaker 1: Bachelor episode, which quite honestly gave me a more pleasant
Speaker 1: Monday night because these three hour best ofs are it
Speaker 1: makes it a worst of Monday night. But I missed hanging,
Speaker 1: I missed talking about it on Tuesdays, and um, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy that we still have podcasts to give to you.
Speaker 1: So this Friday, basically every Friday until my book comes out,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be releasing episodes of Feeling Thorny, which I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get to in a second. Before we do that,
Speaker 1: I had a few items of excitement because we're not
Speaker 1: doing a new podcast this week, I am going to
Speaker 1: wait to do the giveaways. I'm gonna do three giveaways
Speaker 1: we record on September one. So, um, I just want
Speaker 1: to thank you all. You've all risen to the challenge.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much it means to me
Speaker 1: to get your emails with your book receipts and your
Speaker 1: incredibly sweet and supportive words. I mean, look, it's hard enough.
Speaker 1: It's hard to get people to buy a book, Like
Speaker 1: it's much easier to tell somebody to watch your show
Speaker 1: on Netflix or something like that. But in a pandemic,
Speaker 1: to spend your hard earned money, and you know what,
Speaker 1: book is a commitment. You got to sit down and
Speaker 1: read the book. But you know, so, I it really
Speaker 1: is not lost on me that you guys have been
Speaker 1: so sweet and um and look, I hope we get
Speaker 1: on that bestseller list. And I'm forcing my brother to
Speaker 1: throw a live show in JJ's yard where I hope
Speaker 1: none of you get limes disease, you know, once this
Speaker 1: pandemic is over. That being said, so I have a
Speaker 1: few things I've just partnered with this. I'm excited about this.
Speaker 1: You know, I keep talking about those cute totes that
Speaker 1: I designed that I've been the little miss little Compton totes.
Speaker 1: We've done done some giveaways and don't tell anybody, but
Speaker 1: like I'm sending it to all my fancy influencer friends,
Speaker 1: like you know when it gets closer to the release dates.
Speaker 1: But I made a bunch to give away to you guys.
Speaker 1: So when I did it, I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: want just a cheap, crappy cotton bag. I want a nice,
Speaker 1: thick coat. I wanted to be canvass. You know, I
Speaker 1: personally spent thirteen dollars on each bag. These are these
Speaker 1: are nice bags. I designed them. They're thick. You can
Speaker 1: use them as a book bag, a tote bag, you
Speaker 1: can use them as a purse. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know what your needs are. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're going surfing or going to a farmer's market or
Speaker 1: going to a socially distanced rave. I don't know you,
Speaker 1: do you, bunny? I'm not here to judge. But here's
Speaker 1: the exciting part. You now can have free will access
Speaker 1: to them. But there's a catch. So I've partnered with
Speaker 1: this place called Premier Collectibles and it's it's a deal
Speaker 1: for our listeners. For the first two fifty orders, um,
Speaker 1: you get for the price of the book, you get
Speaker 1: the book, you get a tote free with the book,
Speaker 1: and you get a signed book plate. So it will
Speaker 1: be basically a signed book. Because it's COVID. I'm not
Speaker 1: signing all the books. I'm sending them all these book
Speaker 1: plates so that you get the book and signed, it's signed. Um.
Speaker 1: So that's for the first to fifty. For the second
Speaker 1: to fifty, it's just the book plate. So if you
Speaker 1: want that tote, get it in early. And if you're
Speaker 1: like art and I already ordered it and I ordered
Speaker 1: it from our local bookstore. Well, I don't know. Holidays
Speaker 1: are coming up, you've got birthdays. Maybe you've got some
Speaker 1: uptight aunt that you're like, Aunt Shelley needs to laugh.
Speaker 1: Let's get her, give her the book, keep the tote
Speaker 1: for yourself. She'll never know. So that's happening. So the
Speaker 1: way to do it you can either go to Premier
Speaker 1: your Collectibles and just put my name in or put
Speaker 1: in little miss little Compton, or you can go to
Speaker 1: Arden Marine book dot Com that's a R D E
Speaker 1: N M Y R I N book dot com and
Speaker 1: get it there. And guess what, you can still send
Speaker 1: that receipt in because I'm I'm gonna be giving away
Speaker 1: puzzles and t shirts. I'm gonna be giving away more
Speaker 1: tote so like, send it in. Make a double count.
Speaker 1: Who cares the more the merrier? Number two, Um, and
Speaker 1: I can't wait to tell you who's feeling thorny episode
Speaker 1: this is. But I just want to say it was
Speaker 1: not lost on me. Again. We asked for you guys
Speaker 1: to give us reviews. It really does help on iTunes.
Speaker 1: It's sad that we live in a world that's so
Speaker 1: judged on metrics and like how many followers you have
Speaker 1: and how many stars you've got, but it helps with everything.
Speaker 1: And so you really showed up. And if you, you know,
Speaker 1: if you don't feel like writing a review, even just
Speaker 1: going and giving us a start, guys, it's appreciated. So
Speaker 1: here's two of the cool reviews that we out this week.
Speaker 1: And you know, and I'll read more obviously each week,
Speaker 1: but um, I just loved it. Here is one uh
Speaker 1: five stars. I can't pronounce the name. It's h K
Speaker 1: S D so they're not making it easy to pronounce,
Speaker 1: but they are making it easy easy, I mean to
Speaker 1: read because it's so great. Five stars a Bachelor Nation
Speaker 1: Must listen favorite podcast, hands down, Love Arden and all
Speaker 1: the guests never a boring moment in this laugh out
Speaker 1: loud Bachelor recap slash Grief Counseling Weekly Appointment. Can I
Speaker 1: just say if there's any other podcasts out there that
Speaker 1: is better at the Bachelor and talking about anxiety and
Speaker 1: grief counseling. I'd like to know, because I feel like
Speaker 1: we are really we're really in our zone and if
Speaker 1: you think, I just want you to know we're all
Speaker 1: in this together. I'm doing the best that I can.
Speaker 1: I am. I feel like I'm doing okay. But then
Speaker 1: I thought I had a cavity and I went to
Speaker 1: the dentist yesterday. Turns out I am grinding my teeth
Speaker 1: so much and they're like, okay, Arden, you should wear
Speaker 1: a nightguard. Oh no, no, girl, I've been wearing a
Speaker 1: nightguard for like thirteen years and I actually wear it
Speaker 1: every night. So it's they said, oh, see your day grinding,
Speaker 1: you could wear your nightguard during the day, And I thought, like,
Speaker 1: what am I am? I trying never to get laid again,
Speaker 1: Like that's not happening. That's not happening. So I need
Speaker 1: to figure out. I think I need to actually remember
Speaker 1: to breathe a little deeper, which is not my specialty.
Speaker 1: But guy, I mean so, if you're stressed out, just
Speaker 1: know that your little friend art in here has rubbed
Speaker 1: her teeth down to nubs. Not not I'm not proud
Speaker 1: of it, but I'm also not ashamed of it. I'm
Speaker 1: doing my thing, and if I rubbed my teeth to nubs,
Speaker 1: that's my business. Okay. Number two, Um, here's another one.
Speaker 1: Uh five stars Jackie Reid Art in the Self Care Queen.
Speaker 1: Who knew The Bachelor could be so good for my
Speaker 1: mental health? I don't even watch The Bachelor, but I
Speaker 1: love this podcast. Well, I sure appreciate that. That is uh,
Speaker 1: you know again I say this. We're just I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw one more on the pile. Five stars by win
Speaker 1: Wina Saurus Best Bachelor Podcast. I've been a fan of
Speaker 1: art and since her days on Mad TV and Chelsea lately,
Speaker 1: and I've watched The Bachelor Show since the beginning, so
Speaker 1: I'm not sure sure why I didn't discover this podcast
Speaker 1: sooner I started listening for Peter Susan. I think I
Speaker 1: don't know. The Rhona quarantine is rotting my brain. I
Speaker 1: hear your minosaurs, It's rotted my teeth. This podcast is
Speaker 1: just what the doctor ordered. I love the quirky test
Speaker 1: of characters, and it feels like I'm discussing the show
Speaker 1: with friends, which is awesome because none of my actual
Speaker 1: friends will watch it. I laughed so hard at every episode.
Speaker 1: Is my go to pick me up when I'm having
Speaker 1: a bad day, and let's face it, that's pretty often lately.
Speaker 1: Would love to hear y'all discussed Belowdeck or Married at
Speaker 1: First Sight. Stay safe, we keep doing the Lord's work well.
Speaker 1: I tried to get Anna to do Belowdeck on our Patreon,
Speaker 1: which you guys can go to. It's been a Bachelor
Speaker 1: in New Zealand is so fun. Please just go to patren.
Speaker 1: It's such a joy. And we're doing Real Housewives of
Speaker 1: New York right now. Um Anna has a podcast about
Speaker 1: below debt called Deckheads. If you want to hear all right,
Speaker 1: I'll do one more, one more email five stars Ardent
Speaker 1: Lee a fan by kick Cat Petty. I've been listening
Speaker 1: to this podcast for years, and I'm ashamed of myself
Speaker 1: for not writing a review before. This is my hands
Speaker 1: down favorite podcast. I love all the guests, the every
Speaker 1: week crew, and art, and it feels like a fun
Speaker 1: chat with friends who happened to be hilarious. And I,
Speaker 1: as a mental health professional, appreciate the real and honest
Speaker 1: discussions about real life challenges. The Bachelor is a wild
Speaker 1: franchise and it's wonderful to have the professional guidance of Lorie.
Speaker 1: I also have to say I love Rob and his
Speaker 1: dulcet tones reduce my anxiety levels. I hope the Bachelor
Speaker 1: world continues forever more so I can listen to this
Speaker 1: podcast so that I can can can watch the shows,
Speaker 1: although I do that too. Thank you for doing the
Speaker 1: lord's work and lots of love. Thanks for being my
Speaker 1: quarantine friend. Oh my god? All fine? One more? Alright,
Speaker 1: two more, I'll do emails next week. This is all
Speaker 1: reviews this week. Okay, five stars Mesnic recap episode maybe
Speaker 1: my favorite of all time by Morgan Batts. My stomach
Speaker 1: still hurts from laughing. This episode was hilarious. I second
Speaker 1: everything mentioned about Stephanie and Sophia. I'm from South Carolina.
Speaker 1: So the story about General Mills reminded me of so
Speaker 1: many moms from my middle school years. Then the impromptu
Speaker 1: depression conversation. I love how honest and supportive you all
Speaker 1: were for each other. Seriously, so so so good. Thank
Speaker 1: you for this delicious content every week. Bravo once again.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing, guys. Life goes on and
Speaker 1: sometimes it's up and sometimes it's down, and you're still
Speaker 1: allowed to have a laugh and like and this acknowledge
Speaker 1: what's going on. You know, I'm doing okay this week.
Speaker 1: I was stressed out last week. It comes and goes,
Speaker 1: it's up and down. I you know, I trying to
Speaker 1: get up early and exercise first thing in the morning,
Speaker 1: and that seems to make my day feel better. And
Speaker 1: then like I do the rest of my work stuff
Speaker 1: after that, I don't know, and I am a night owl.
Speaker 1: Final one. This is five stars by m Kramer. Literally choked,
Speaker 1: laughing out loud. I've been with this podcast since the beginning.
Speaker 1: I was on a neighborhood walk and listening to this
Speaker 1: week's about Jason Goat. I took a sip of water
Speaker 1: just as they started discussing Stephanie and did that you
Speaker 1: are so sweet impression. I started choking and I thought
Speaker 1: I might die from laughter. Always so funny. I lost
Speaker 1: it with Arden's barbed impression. Must go back and listen
Speaker 1: if you haven't. So there you go. That's some examples
Speaker 1: of some great um reviews. So here we are. Why
Speaker 1: am I doing these feeling thor any episodes? I am
Speaker 1: doing them because writing the book gave me an opportunity
Speaker 1: to stop and take start of the things that sort
Speaker 1: of made me me, like the challenges that made me me,
Speaker 1: the good stuff that like built put this humpty dumpty together,
Speaker 1: and um, you know a lot of it in the
Speaker 1: book is about how how some roadblocks ended up being gifts,
Speaker 1: you know, the how things that didn't work out, how
Speaker 1: I wanted them to force me to pivot and and
Speaker 1: just the zig zag journey both inside myself and outside
Speaker 1: myself how it all led to today. So it's it's
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty funny read. And it's also
Speaker 1: my I would say, my heart is on the page.
Speaker 1: And um, as a person who has social anxiety, this
Speaker 1: podcast has really helped me make friends and you never
Speaker 1: know who that is going to be. And the person
Speaker 1: today that we did feeling thorny with I just love he.
Speaker 1: You know, he was always my favorite bachelor. We reached
Speaker 1: out to him. Um, we're talking about Wells atoms and
Speaker 1: I reached out to him when I did my first
Speaker 1: podcast in Nashville. We did our first live podcast, and
Speaker 1: he was so great. We just had so much fun
Speaker 1: with him. He was so warm and welcoming. And then
Speaker 1: I got booked. I did a show in Nashville, like
Speaker 1: I was on a CMT show for eight episodes, and
Speaker 1: so I did his radio show. He did our podcast
Speaker 1: a bunch. Um, oh you know what, No, that's not true.
Speaker 1: Our very first time ever meeting Wells. I hunted him
Speaker 1: down on Twitter. I had atom down on Twitter, and
Speaker 1: then he came in I feel like maybe still drunk
Speaker 1: from the night before. And he did a podcast with
Speaker 1: me and Steve Heitner who played Kenny Bania on Seinfeld, Um,
Speaker 1: when we were still at meltdown, and we just loved him,
Speaker 1: and we like Steve busted his ball so much. You
Speaker 1: can go back and listen to that of a Steve
Speaker 1: just just one of my favorite humans. But then Wells
Speaker 1: like he he has become a friend and he you know,
Speaker 1: he there's been like a strange, weird journey with Wells
Speaker 1: because I mean not to get not to get too
Speaker 1: real here. But three years ago, right before another live
Speaker 1: show we did, we did a live show at Outside
Speaker 1: Lands Music Festival, and two weeks before the festival, my
Speaker 1: dad passed away, and I allowed my I talked a
Speaker 1: lot about in those episodes. I talked a lot about
Speaker 1: Grief Island and sort of the joy and the tribulations
Speaker 1: of grief Island. That was my own doing. I came
Speaker 1: up with this idea of Grief Island, which I actually
Speaker 1: talked about in the book. And um, I allowed myself
Speaker 1: to cancel anything I wanted to cancel, and I felt
Speaker 1: that my body instinctively knew what I wanted to do,
Speaker 1: and so I canceled a lot of work obligations. But
Speaker 1: I very much wanted to keep doing the podcast, and
Speaker 1: I very much wanted to go to Outside Lands, and
Speaker 1: so we went. And he was so great and uh
Speaker 1: really just like such an easy person to be around.
Speaker 1: He has so much humanity. And then last year, not
Speaker 1: to be sorry guys, spoiler alert, don't get this has
Speaker 1: already happened, and I'm okay, so, but my mom died
Speaker 1: suddenly like a year and a half later, and well
Speaker 1: Alls happened to be booked on the podcast. It was
Speaker 1: right before the finale of Colton and so she died
Speaker 1: on a Saturday, and I was filming Insatiable and I
Speaker 1: went up to Rhode Island and I had to like
Speaker 1: and it was he and Steve Heightner were booked to
Speaker 1: do it again, and I was like, Hey, I don't
Speaker 1: want to freak you out. My mom died suddenly yesterday. Um,
Speaker 1: I still want to do the podcast. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be in person. Are you comfortable doing this with me?
Speaker 1: And um, he said yes, so was he and Rob
Speaker 1: Benedict and Steve Heightener. And you know some people would
Speaker 1: have been freaked out by that and he wasn't. And UM,
Speaker 1: I just think he's such a great person, you know,
Speaker 1: he's the only he just is a good guy. And
Speaker 1: I am grateful that he's in my life and that
Speaker 1: he's our friend. And I'm so excited for you guys
Speaker 1: just to get to know him more. And it's interesting
Speaker 1: to me. I feel like he and Rob Benedict their
Speaker 1: stories had some similarities. Maybe my brain if I'm we
Speaker 1: recorded this so long ago, so there might be some
Speaker 1: quarantine things that you're like, what I think we recorded
Speaker 1: this in December or November, so um, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: Sorry for the ramble. Okay, Heimie, I will don't forget
Speaker 1: to get your emails in if you want that. If
Speaker 1: you want that, toe order it now, Arta, Marine book
Speaker 1: dot Com or Premier Collectible some put in my name
Speaker 1: if you want it, because there's only two and I've
Speaker 1: been talking about it on some social media, so go
Speaker 1: get it now. And um we'll see you again with
Speaker 1: another feeling thorny next Friday, and we'll be back. The
Speaker 1: episode will go up September three. It'll be the Nick
Speaker 1: Vaelle episode. Okay, so much talking. It's so hot here,
Speaker 1: all right, stay safe. We're a mask, you know what.
Speaker 1: Have some fun. I don't care if you've ground your
Speaker 1: teeth into knubs. You can still have a little dance
Speaker 1: party and have some fun. Okay. Bye. Welcome to Will
Speaker 1: You Accept This Rose? A production of I Heart Radio?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah where? Oh it feels so good. It feels
Speaker 1: so good when you accept this Rose? I accept? Thank
Speaker 1: you for asking, Thank you for preasy gentlemen and asking
Speaker 1: you know what I do accept. I'm feeling I've had
Speaker 1: three shiblis and I'm feeling like I want to accept
Speaker 1: you guys, what is it? What's what? Coloraghably red? Why? Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, it doesn't matter because it's shiblie time somewhere.
Speaker 1: My name is Arden Marine. And you think you're just
Speaker 1: gonna get one theme song. That's not true because this
Speaker 1: isn't just any old Will you accept this road podcast?
Speaker 1: This is our little fun special offshoot called Feeling Thorny.
Speaker 1: And let's just set the mood for that, shall we. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. It's time for hard to get a little closer.
Speaker 1: That's right. Could make this risk. If Hener had any
Speaker 1: musical talent, this would be you know, speaking Heiner super
Speaker 1: real wants that's right. Yeah, that's right. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I hope you have your first wedding dance to that song.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Where after that is that going to be?
Speaker 1: Is that going to be your first dance that song? No,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the song that we consummate that that's
Speaker 1: gonna be. That's gonna be making baby baby making time. Sure, well,
Speaker 1: we're so happy to have you here. You just mentioned
Speaker 1: Steve Heiner, and as I did, just like a little
Speaker 1: preliminary just looking you up, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't need to ask how many. So I know he
Speaker 1: has two sisters because I remember Steve Heightner calling them
Speaker 1: wet and what, which I feel like in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: like part of me is like how Heightener must feel
Speaker 1: so restricted. Now, yeah, I think he came up with
Speaker 1: wet and white, like right before the me too movement
Speaker 1: really took and yeah, now he can't say it. The
Speaker 1: problem is that one of one of the sisters is
Speaker 1: such a big Seinfeld fan. When they heard he could
Speaker 1: have called her anything, let's see you next Tuesday, and
Speaker 1: they'd be like, wait what, Daniel. That's the thing with him.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that's tricky about him, because like on paper,
Speaker 1: everything that he's saying is horrible. And I remember, I
Speaker 1: remember I met him. I was like twenty one years old.
Speaker 1: He was my first job I ever did, Like, I
Speaker 1: moved out here, I got this job. I'm living in
Speaker 1: Zack Alphanas his closet, I'm working with Banya And he
Speaker 1: called me like like a broken down horror so like
Speaker 1: something awful, And I remember being like, I like you,
Speaker 1: and I like chased him to the snack table and
Speaker 1: only made him be my friend. He's awful. So your
Speaker 1: sister was delighted by it. Yeah, when I posted the
Speaker 1: picture of us, my sister was like, holy crap, She's like,
Speaker 1: this is it? Whoa like you made it when you
Speaker 1: were saying your sister's run a tight chip like they're tough. Well,
Speaker 1: they're wet and white. That's right. They do their tight.
Speaker 1: They keep it tight. They keep it tight in the
Speaker 1: Adams family. And do you have brothers or their brothers?
Speaker 1: And I have two brothers. I'm you haven't met my
Speaker 1: oldest brother. He lives in l A's in Brentwood. What
Speaker 1: does he do? He does like property management. So if
Speaker 1: you got any you got any property, I got a
Speaker 1: manage You got to manage my property. So he's like
Speaker 1: an adult. He's a responsible adult. Yeah. And he's the
Speaker 1: good looking one in the family. You certainly did not
Speaker 1: get any of those like that fucked up family. So
Speaker 1: he's a good looking one. He was the model and
Speaker 1: the failed actor. Wow. Yeah, and uh he was the
Speaker 1: one that got me into the batch. Have you never
Speaker 1: asked me this question? No, how I got on the batchroom.
Speaker 1: I mean I might have, but i'd like to hear
Speaker 1: it again. So he lives over in Brentwood. There's a
Speaker 1: bar that he only one bar he goes to is
Speaker 1: a queues billiards club. We've got to go there, you guys,
Speaker 1: out of out of curiosity. So he goes to a
Speaker 1: billiards club. Yeah, but it's like a sports bar. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And anyways, like they filmed like episodes of the Hills
Speaker 1: there or like Spencer and Heidi and like who was
Speaker 1: that Justin Bobby? Justin Bobby. I put my ringer on
Speaker 1: him for when So I remember Justin Bobby was like
Speaker 1: a fascinating So that was back in the day. They
Speaker 1: would go they would film things there. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: he was always there. I was like, it's like you
Speaker 1: walk there from his place and he would go there
Speaker 1: every day and like hold court and like play golden tea.
Speaker 1: And someone came in that was a casting director for
Speaker 1: The Bachelor and was like this guy, so she not
Speaker 1: to him and she was like, you have been entertaining
Speaker 1: everybody this entire time, and you know who you are
Speaker 1: and you know what your story is and are you single?
Speaker 1: And at the time he was, and he went to
Speaker 1: like the tire like casting process and my brothers. Just
Speaker 1: one of those guys that like has never met a
Speaker 1: stranger and like never loses a friend, like I burned
Speaker 1: bridges left and right, but like he is always friendly
Speaker 1: with everybody. And like eight years he didn't end up
Speaker 1: not doing it because he the casting process takes a
Speaker 1: very long time, and in that period he found his
Speaker 1: now wife and so he was like, no, thanks, I'm
Speaker 1: I've actually found love, so we're good. But eight years
Speaker 1: went by and then all of a sudden, I was
Speaker 1: like doing my radio show. I had recently gotten dumped,
Speaker 1: and he was like, do you want to do The Bachelor?
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still good friends with the casting racause
Speaker 1: he's never met a stranger who like had had since
Speaker 1: moved to New York, but they still kept in touch.
Speaker 1: And that's how you were in Nashville. In Nashville at
Speaker 1: the time, um, and what did you think when he
Speaker 1: called and told you that? So at the time, I
Speaker 1: was doing a morning show I'm like a local radio station,
Speaker 1: and I used to do this bit. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: very good bit, but it was something I did where
Speaker 1: I would go on auditions and I'm not an actor,
Speaker 1: but I would go on actions for things. So like
Speaker 1: the day before, I'd be really excited and like as
Speaker 1: if you were my co host, you'd be like, let's
Speaker 1: run through lines, and so he would be like a
Speaker 1: China paper plate commercial and I'm like, wow, what a
Speaker 1: great place. That was what it was. And I did
Speaker 1: a mixed commercial and it really was like mix great taste,
Speaker 1: like I don't even know, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And so I used to go but I would intentionally
Speaker 1: bomb because I didn't really care. It was more for
Speaker 1: like the bit of the next day. We're right. Co
Speaker 1: host would be like how did it go? And I
Speaker 1: didn't get the China pep yeah. So I was like,
Speaker 1: this would be really funny if I go to this
Speaker 1: audition for The Bachelor so you can talk about it
Speaker 1: on your radio show. That was like that's crazy, And
Speaker 1: so I was crazy and I went into it like
Speaker 1: super lazy fair and I didn't really take it seriously.
Speaker 1: And because I've had that air of like I didn't
Speaker 1: give a ship, they loved me immediately. I'm gonna guess
Speaker 1: there's not that many people. I'm gonna I bet the
Speaker 1: people who go in acting like they don't give a
Speaker 1: ship probably desperately care, but are trying to act like
Speaker 1: I meant to guests. There's actually very few who truly
Speaker 1: don't give a ship that go in for it. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: this is why I remember of the day. I had
Speaker 1: two radio at the time, I had two radio shows,
Speaker 1: and so I had a window of when I could
Speaker 1: had I had a morning show and then I had
Speaker 1: an afternoon show. So I had like three hours so
Speaker 1: in Naville in Nashville to do this audition. So I
Speaker 1: off the bat was like got a heart out at
Speaker 1: you know, like which I thinking back, like what an
Speaker 1: asshole that, but it was true, Like I had to
Speaker 1: go to work, and so I was like, I need
Speaker 1: to be the first one in. I'm sorry, but I
Speaker 1: gotta I have work. And that's fine, that's cool. And
Speaker 1: also because my brother had connected me with like now
Speaker 1: the lead casting director, I think they were giving me
Speaker 1: some liberties that they weren't giving more because you had
Speaker 1: because you had an end. Yes, and and so I
Speaker 1: remember showing up and it was in Nashville. It's at
Speaker 1: a hotel, and everyone was in suits because I think
Speaker 1: that in those guys minds, you had to wear what
Speaker 1: you would wear getting out of the limo and I
Speaker 1: was wearing a T shirt, like a jean jacket and
Speaker 1: like sneakers, and so I walked in there and they're like,
Speaker 1: we know you have a heart out and I was
Speaker 1: like yeah, thanks, and I was like they're like, why
Speaker 1: do you have to go? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I got a radio show I gotta go do. And
Speaker 1: then of course they're like do your Everyone always says
Speaker 1: like do your radio voice, which I don't really have one,
Speaker 1: but I have the fake ones. So so I did
Speaker 1: it for them. And then they were like, do some
Speaker 1: bits that you're going to do today, and so I
Speaker 1: had them already like done the bit in the morning,
Speaker 1: so I had the same bit the afternoon and I
Speaker 1: did it for him. Like an hour and a half
Speaker 1: went by, and I was like, guys, I gotta like
Speaker 1: heart out, gotta go. And that's when they were like,
Speaker 1: we need to make sure you're open in March and
Speaker 1: April next year, so you didn't have to go to
Speaker 1: like the airport Hilton I did. They made me fly
Speaker 1: out later for that. I'm curious about that route, So
Speaker 1: you fly out so you were like, okay, I've made
Speaker 1: it through, I'm now here. I am my top fifties
Speaker 1: when you get to go out there, So they do
Speaker 1: they pay to fly you in? Okay, so they paid
Speaker 1: to fly you in? Do you have to wear a
Speaker 1: certain outfit? I don't remember? And are you like sequester
Speaker 1: or do they take your phone? I don't think they
Speaker 1: took my phone. At that point, I was the question.
Speaker 1: I couldn't leave the room. Were you with any other guys? Wow? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you're in are you can you watch TV? Like
Speaker 1: unlimited room service? This is not a time in which
Speaker 1: I was like, no blame my first few jobs, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you mean craft, I could eat all these pop jars
Speaker 1: and I truly the first job I ever had everyone
Speaker 1: on it. We all gained ctain like you, this mode
Speaker 1: is free, you know? And then your pants are slowly
Speaker 1: getting tighter and tighter. Um okay, So so you're there,
Speaker 1: you're in lockdown? And how is it like a three
Speaker 1: day weekend? Like? How long are you at? Like the
Speaker 1: Ramata l A. It's so funny because every time I
Speaker 1: go to l A X now to fly out, I
Speaker 1: see it and I'm like, it's the one on the right,
Speaker 1: it's white, it's shitty. I think it's a shared and yeah, um,
Speaker 1: and I don't remember. I think it was an all
Speaker 1: weekend thing, so I think I flew out like on Thursday.
Speaker 1: I think I had stuff Friday and Saturday, and then
Speaker 1: I flew back on Sunday. At this point, now that
Speaker 1: it's getting more real, now you've got some skin in
Speaker 1: the game, are you starting to care? Are you getting nervous?
Speaker 1: Do you do? You still not care? I absolutely care?
Speaker 1: You care? At first it was just for the bit,
Speaker 1: like I wanted the next day thing. And then when
Speaker 1: they were like, we want you to do this, I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa really? Like this would be yeah? Um?
Speaker 1: And I was single and I was like, yeah, why not.
Speaker 1: I kept keeping getting like cheated on a dump, like
Speaker 1: as well, I'll try this, why not? Um? So yeah,
Speaker 1: but the same thing happened. Like have you had guests
Speaker 1: on where they tell you like that process of being
Speaker 1: in the shared No? No, no. So it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: Like one you know you you do a psych evaluation,
Speaker 1: so I've seen unreal like what I mean they do
Speaker 1: they want to see if you're going to crack, Like
Speaker 1: what kind of questions do they ask? How do they evaluate?
Speaker 1: So it's it's a I guess it's a pretty typical
Speaker 1: psych evaluation, Like it's across the board. If you're going
Speaker 1: to be in politics or whatever, it's just all the
Speaker 1: same test. What kind of questions? Is it about your
Speaker 1: family or is it walcked up? Man? So they'll have
Speaker 1: questions what will be like, um, God, would you like
Speaker 1: to be a florist? Yes? Or no? And then you're like,
Speaker 1: you know, no, I don't think I want to be
Speaker 1: a florist. And then the next questions, do you have
Speaker 1: demonic thoughts of killing your parents? Okay? Yes or no?
Speaker 1: And then you're like, well, no, now I'm rethinking the
Speaker 1: florist question right right? I answer wrong? Did I answer? Am? I?
Speaker 1: Now the I'm the psycho because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be a florist. Do you want to be a park ranger?
Speaker 1: Do you harbor ill will to those who have wronged you?
Speaker 1: It's stuff like that, they trick you. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like it's like it's like it almost feels like a
Speaker 1: good cop bad cop, but is only one person asking
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, I do like fluff questions? And
Speaker 1: then yeah, do I harbor ill will? Yeah? I would
Speaker 1: say I do. I think I hold a grudge? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions of like, um, are the
Speaker 1: reasons why you have been unsuccessful due to other people's actions?
Speaker 1: So it's like it's like trying to figure out if
Speaker 1: you're angry at others and not like taking ownership. I
Speaker 1: don't know. So you take that test and you meet
Speaker 1: with a shrink and you talk to them about like
Speaker 1: your life problems and everything. They ask, are your parents married?
Speaker 1: Are you the test? They can figure out a lot
Speaker 1: about you. I'm kind of freaky. I'm sure I have
Speaker 1: no game face. I'm in and like I will answer anything,
Speaker 1: and not in a good way. I won't. I don't
Speaker 1: want to, and I won't be smooth about it. But
Speaker 1: I could fully be like tricked into a cult, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? If they're absolutely bringing people that
Speaker 1: have filled this test because like Chad or Luke Pete.
Speaker 1: But I think maybe they want that. They may want
Speaker 1: I think they're like, here's our here's our real viable guys,
Speaker 1: and maybe here's our wild cards. I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the backstory and Chad was apparently when Chad did
Speaker 1: all that stuff, he was like thirty pounds lighter, and
Speaker 1: I think he started to work. He started to work
Speaker 1: out way, and I remember talking to two producers like
Speaker 1: while we were filming that, being like, how could you
Speaker 1: bring someone like this here? This is a liability for
Speaker 1: all of us. Was he was dangerous and I was
Speaker 1: at that time like a buck fifty. I was getting
Speaker 1: ready getting broken in half. Um And and they were
Speaker 1: all like three months ago when we cast this thing.
Speaker 1: He did not look like this. I see, I see.
Speaker 1: But it's also it's not a like a pass er
Speaker 1: a fail thing, you know, like you I don't think
Speaker 1: you can fail that test. It's more of like what
Speaker 1: type of personality you are? Um? I And I obited
Speaker 1: a point because I've done they made me do it
Speaker 1: every year and now as a bartender, and I make
Speaker 1: a point to talk to the to the shrink afterwards
Speaker 1: and be like tell me my scores, like how because
Speaker 1: you change, like you're everyone changes through their life. And
Speaker 1: so it was really funny. They would go compare my
Speaker 1: from like my first time taking it to like now,
Speaker 1: and what my my confidence now is like so much
Speaker 1: better than it? Like yeah, but like I've become more
Speaker 1: more self deprecating, but that's also like a confidence Like
Speaker 1: it's all going back the same thing. And that's interesting,
Speaker 1: super it's a crazy weird test, but yes, you take
Speaker 1: that test. You talk to like a private eye that
Speaker 1: like goes deep into your stuff because they don't think
Speaker 1: you can't have someone who has especially now, but you
Speaker 1: can't have someone who has a secret a secret or
Speaker 1: a restraining order against them or and I assume now
Speaker 1: they have like social media private eye. That wasn't a
Speaker 1: thing during my time. I know that my friend who
Speaker 1: just did like a stand up, he's like a stand
Speaker 1: up who did not like the new common or whatever.
Speaker 1: There's not the last comic standing but whatever that one
Speaker 1: was on NBC, Like I know he knew that he
Speaker 1: was the only one that didn't have like when they
Speaker 1: scrubbed all of their tweets, he was the only one
Speaker 1: they didn't have to delete any two like they're now
Speaker 1: deep diving, which they should, which they should because they
Speaker 1: had because they had that guy who did there all
Speaker 1: those racist Lee Lee they should they should or or
Speaker 1: or no, actually I actually I like the idea of
Speaker 1: racing should have that. Yeah, yeah, I mean you're right
Speaker 1: if it is that kind of yeah, yeah, um, that's
Speaker 1: interesting that and is it scary to be like meeting
Speaker 1: with the psyche people. Is it's scary to talk to
Speaker 1: like the detective type, Like that feels intimidating because it
Speaker 1: feel almost like you've been arrested or is it exciting?
Speaker 1: It's nerve racking. I think, yeah, you're also just like
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to show up. You know,
Speaker 1: in college, I got arrested for stupid stuff and like,
Speaker 1: is that gonna pop up interesting? And then you know,
Speaker 1: I got like a minor in possession of marijuana and
Speaker 1: I was like, eighteen, is that gonna is this gonna
Speaker 1: screw me over? And you know, and then it didn't
Speaker 1: know that stuff like that's not really what they're looking
Speaker 1: for concerned about. They don't need to be like a psycho.
Speaker 1: Yeah uh so, yeah, so you do, and then you
Speaker 1: take STD tests. You take a lot of STD tests,
Speaker 1: which I always appreciated because I mean, and I still
Speaker 1: do for parent I still do those, and it's always
Speaker 1: us because every year I'm like, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. I know. Yeah. I was always obsessed with diseases.
Speaker 1: I remember my brother and I would always drag my
Speaker 1: brother every year. I'd be like, We're going to Washington
Speaker 1: Square Park to the clinic and I we would every year.
Speaker 1: I was so parent and I was like, come on,
Speaker 1: and like, it's not like we were the most popular
Speaker 1: people in town. But like, I don't know why I
Speaker 1: about my brother, but there was there was like we
Speaker 1: I think we were both equally freakingly wired. It was like,
Speaker 1: let's go make sure we're cooling. Um, so that's good
Speaker 1: that they do that, I think. I mean, it's important
Speaker 1: because you have the wind and have like a mom,
Speaker 1: so like cheering it on that part was respect, Like
Speaker 1: how I don't ever want a parent cheering on me
Speaker 1: boning like my parents or somebody else's parents cheering on
Speaker 1: me getting laid four times in a when. Now, I
Speaker 1: just think that she panicked because she didn't know how
Speaker 1: to respond to that situation. I mean, how would you not, oh,
Speaker 1: bone zone time for the bone zone were your How
Speaker 1: did your parents feel about you going on? Was it
Speaker 1: weird to have your parents watched? I mean you didn't
Speaker 1: have anything super embarrassed saying no, I I think everyone
Speaker 1: was super apprehensive of me doing it and worrying how
Speaker 1: you know, how I would be quote unquote edited think
Speaker 1: they had changed who I was. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: and someone who has not done the show for so long,
Speaker 1: I've never seen an edit that I was like, that
Speaker 1: didn't happen. You know, for the most part, you said
Speaker 1: that ship, you were that person. Just because you don't
Speaker 1: like it doesn't mean it didn't happen. That kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So but at that time, my parents didn't know that,
Speaker 1: and my assist my siblings did not, so they were
Speaker 1: just kind of apprehensive of how it's gonna look. I
Speaker 1: remember coming home being like, I didn't tell anyone what happened,
Speaker 1: but I was like, everything's gonna be fine, right. I
Speaker 1: don't look bad, not nothing. I don't do anything that's
Speaker 1: gonna make me look bad at all, you know. I
Speaker 1: feel like, did hear you say you were less confident
Speaker 1: in the first time and then more confident later on.
Speaker 1: I feel like if I went into that mansion, I
Speaker 1: would find it hard. I think I would have gone
Speaker 1: in not confident, and I think I would have hard
Speaker 1: not to fold in, like in a competitive setting, particularly
Speaker 1: in a romantic situation, like if I ever knew I
Speaker 1: was like my friend and I both liked the same
Speaker 1: or whatever, Like I would always sort of let somebody else,
Speaker 1: like I would sort of self sabotage. I think I
Speaker 1: think it would be hard not to fold in in
Speaker 1: the house, Like, how did how was it being in
Speaker 1: that environment? Well, I knew I was never in the game,
Speaker 1: Like it was pretty evident that that she thought I
Speaker 1: was cool but not super into me. How did that feel?
Speaker 1: I was fine with it because I remember I liked
Speaker 1: her and I thought she was cool, but I also
Speaker 1: wasn't it this is it, you know? But I also
Speaker 1: just have a lot of time with her until the end.
Speaker 1: That's when I got like sent home. But we've talked
Speaker 1: about this on other podcasts, like the the psychological experiment
Speaker 1: of the whole thing is interesting, and ratings like reflect it.
Speaker 1: The Bachelor is five, far and away the more popular
Speaker 1: of the of the three shows, is it? In terms
Speaker 1: of ratings? For sure? And it's this weird thing at
Speaker 1: least favorite really, I mean, and I like The Bachelorette
Speaker 1: in Paradise, Well, Paradise is coming up. I mean, Paradise
Speaker 1: is to me the greatest show on television paras blast.
Speaker 1: It's the most fun and it feels actually like people
Speaker 1: are together the longest and like I love I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm watching the other two to get to Paradise. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and now that's what it is. It's it's a mean.
Speaker 1: Those two shows are now a means to the end
Speaker 1: to get to paradise, you know, because you need to
Speaker 1: have those casts to get there. Now that Bachelor has
Speaker 1: become very pageant centered, that's less interesting to me. I
Speaker 1: like the bromances that happened in the house. I like
Speaker 1: the man friendships that happened during the Bachelorette. Was gonna
Speaker 1: say so in terms of ratings, this weird thing that
Speaker 1: happens when you put a bunch of women together going
Speaker 1: after one man, and you put a bunch of men
Speaker 1: together going after one woman. Women for whatever reason instinctively
Speaker 1: like um, get Caddie, separate and get really really competitive.
Speaker 1: And it's got to go back to like the um
Speaker 1: the caveman days and the pact mentality. Men all band
Speaker 1: together and we're like chums and we're all for everyone
Speaker 1: on It's clear watching that, like you can see every season.
Speaker 1: I love when you see people are starting to enjoy
Speaker 1: each other, Like it's fun to watch. But in terms
Speaker 1: of ratings, you want to see everyone pickering. And that's
Speaker 1: why this is my theory, is why the Bachelor does better.
Speaker 1: It's because at the end of the day, the lead
Speaker 1: isn't the backstor of the back threat. The lead is
Speaker 1: the cast that's going after those people, right, And so
Speaker 1: if everyone's friendly, then there's really not a lot of drama.
Speaker 1: So and if this drama, if everyone hates each other,
Speaker 1: that's much better. And I think that's why people like
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. Who is your best friend in the house? Um,
Speaker 1: Derek was my best friend in the house. Derek Derek
Speaker 1: Paith He dated Um Oh my god, he was. He
Speaker 1: was on JoJo's season. Oh my god. That further than
Speaker 1: me too. He seems so sweet. I really liked him,
Speaker 1: and I really liked I thought he handled the whole
Speaker 1: Demi thing so well this summer. And I didn't like
Speaker 1: when John Paul Jones came after him. I didn't like that.
Speaker 1: I like it well, John Paul Jones just didn't. It
Speaker 1: didn't make any sense. It felt a little live wire.
Speaker 1: It just was like, I'm losing out to this guy.
Speaker 1: Let's make up some stuff. No, he seemed like a
Speaker 1: nice guy, like I felt like. I liked him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: from he's from Iowa. He's like a finance guy in Manhattan.
Speaker 1: He's like a normal dude. Seems like a normal and
Speaker 1: like not to like belabor a overused cliche, like I
Speaker 1: think he's always been there for the right reasons, Like
Speaker 1: he was super Remember when we ruined together and I
Speaker 1: was being honest and I was like, I don't think
Speaker 1: she's into me, so I'm not that in Jojo and
Speaker 1: he was like, how could you say that I'm so
Speaker 1: into her? And I was like, well, don't tell anyone.
Speaker 1: I said that. I guess He's like, don't worry your
Speaker 1: secret safe with me. And then he went on Barrettyes
Speaker 1: and he got engaged to Taylor and that didn't work out,
Speaker 1: and then he came again and he just keeps on
Speaker 1: any dumped. I wanted him to be the bachelor, I was.
Speaker 1: That's what I was rooting. I wanted him. When he
Speaker 1: laughed and he was like and that, he was like
Speaker 1: everybody always says you're such a catch, Like I wanted him.
Speaker 1: I felt like we all felt. I felt like we
Speaker 1: all every lady in America was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: there's so many ladies they would fix you up with. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My The reason why I was rooting for him, other
Speaker 1: than he's one of my friends, was he's thirty two,
Speaker 1: thirty three, so that opens the door to have some
Speaker 1: older women, which I feel like the show has been
Speaker 1: missing a lot of it's been really young really only
Speaker 1: twenty three. Yeah, that's young. That's young. I know, I know.
Speaker 1: It's been an interesting we are unfortunately, are so deep
Speaker 1: in and we watched Australia and they reset every season.
Speaker 1: They have a new outside, they just bring it. Every
Speaker 1: Bachelor they bring in some new do and then then
Speaker 1: they go through and the Bachelorette is from his you know,
Speaker 1: and then they go through Paradise. But after Paradise they
Speaker 1: have a reset of the franchise. And I like that
Speaker 1: because you can kind of reset. It's almost it's not
Speaker 1: eating its tail as much. Yeah, I mean, I would
Speaker 1: say that the one of the glaring problems just in
Speaker 1: terms of production with that is if you're if you're
Speaker 1: on the Bachelorette, Like for Peter, for example, he got
Speaker 1: two months of like learning how to do reality television,
Speaker 1: so now he's a little more polished and some guy
Speaker 1: just drive. That's what we were saying. There's this guy
Speaker 1: that like watching because we started a new season, We're like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's never seen himself on television. There's a certain beauty
Speaker 1: to that. Were like, he doesn't know that when he talks.
Speaker 1: He he's a handsome guy, but like Dore's like get
Speaker 1: like he's like, there's a panicky you know, he hasn't
Speaker 1: been put through. There's you can tell he's never seen
Speaker 1: any of it back yet and that he would change
Speaker 1: it if he had a chance. Again, do you watch
Speaker 1: the Canadian version? Should I? Because I used to have
Speaker 1: to go up to Toronto. Not have to They asked
Speaker 1: me to come up to Toronto and like do after shows.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it, like the one that
Speaker 1: it was a couple of years ago. I guess it
Speaker 1: was a professional baseball player who was a bachelor who
Speaker 1: played for like when people were like bring it on.
Speaker 1: Everyone was into it. We watched England and and it
Speaker 1: was fascinating and at first I liked him. It was
Speaker 1: like a dude to like a top knot and rememb
Speaker 1: were like mm. But I was like it was like
Speaker 1: a guy in a man bond. But then he was
Speaker 1: so vain, he was so disgusting. I hated him. Have
Speaker 1: you ever been with a girl? Yeah? Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: Like that's right. He'd be like you're really flexible. Have
Speaker 1: you ever just like I don't know, gotten drunk and
Speaker 1: made love to a woman here, like you've been asking me,
Speaker 1: like any quite like what I do for a living,
Speaker 1: like if I have a hobby, like like any. It's
Speaker 1: so clear what his like his little piccadillo, you know,
Speaker 1: like what his little deviant thing I was. I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: and he was I feel like he was wearing like
Speaker 1: a little man like man cloth. It was not they
Speaker 1: made him paint him like in the garden. He was
Speaker 1: like draped with like nothing but like a little towel
Speaker 1: on his dick and you have to like paint him
Speaker 1: as if it was the Titanic, and like he was
Speaker 1: he was Jack and you were like you are Rose painting.
Speaker 1: It's like, oops, I've got to tell on my dick.
Speaker 1: It was just like this is England, like bring me
Speaker 1: fucking Prince Harry, Like what is happening here? Like it
Speaker 1: wasn't good. It wasn't good of the other like franchise iterations,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite? It's it's spectacular. The women are really
Speaker 1: down to earth and fun and cool. Um. They remind
Speaker 1: me a lot of like Carly, you know, they're they're
Speaker 1: like fun, adorable, good sports. Um I it's it's nut
Speaker 1: and I feel like they haven't quite figured out how
Speaker 1: to do it as well. Uh what do you like Australia? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so everyone's chiller. Maybe that's just the Australian vibe.
Speaker 1: They're not as dirty as we are, Like they don't
Speaker 1: have fantasy sweets and like I'm paradise. They were like
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna kiss one person here and You're like wait, what,
Speaker 1: Like what are you talking about? Like you mean the
Speaker 1: whole time or you mean like like this hour talking
Speaker 1: about like what? Yeah, they were very they were very
Speaker 1: and I remember they had this hot bachelor who but
Speaker 1: he was very sort of prudish and some girls tried
Speaker 1: to kiss them like the cocktail party, so he sent
Speaker 1: her home. I'm like, what is happening here? I thought
Speaker 1: in my mind whenever I'm meeting Australia's they're just like
Speaker 1: on a year long like they all have tickets for
Speaker 1: a year, just flying east and they're just like ship
Speaker 1: face going from like they're like they're like I'm a
Speaker 1: ski lift operator. Like they just go from like sort
Speaker 1: of part time job to part time job, partying around
Speaker 1: the Globe for years, so I was like there, but
Speaker 1: they're they actually, I guess like themselves more. They're not
Speaker 1: as dirty as we are. They don't like just the
Speaker 1: like it at it in the hot thought. How do
Speaker 1: you watch it? I want to watch it. I'll send
Speaker 1: you the link. There's like this, there's like this database
Speaker 1: and you just put in any old email. You watch
Speaker 1: it on Chrome. It's to me, the greatest season of
Speaker 1: any of the shows ever was the season one of
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise Australia, because they didn't know how to
Speaker 1: do it so like and it was just two years ago,
Speaker 1: and there was three couples that came out of it
Speaker 1: that were like Carly and Evan. There were three weird
Speaker 1: couples that like really fell in love. Would you do
Speaker 1: you think that was the best one we ever had? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was And it was long as like sixteen episodes.
Speaker 1: It was really entertained. Is that the one that Jared
Speaker 1: was on? Yes, yes, he had a hard time. He
Speaker 1: had a hard time. They they I don't know why.
Speaker 1: It was fascinating all the women of Australia. Poor Jared,
Speaker 1: he like and it was and I was watching because
Speaker 1: I like, of course I know who he is, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's probably used to like at this point,
Speaker 1: probably getting hit on wherever he goes, and it's probably
Speaker 1: this like like record scratch of like wait what they
Speaker 1: all loved Grant? Grant was there, he was on my season. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, so he are you gonna
Speaker 1: watch it because I kind of okay, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: tell you what happens when you're done. Tell me when
Speaker 1: you're done, and I'm gonna tell you something. It's the
Speaker 1: craziest is I do with Grant? Oh yeah? Oh yeah?
Speaker 1: Should I tell you? Just tell me? Just okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so okay, okay, okay, okay, she's standing out, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So there is so so Grant comes on and they're
Speaker 1: all like, who the fuck is that? Like got that guy?
Speaker 1: They all divorce that. I also like, I just love
Speaker 1: a comment. I do it. But they can't believe Grant's Grant.
Speaker 1: Daniel and Jared show up and poor Jared. That could
Speaker 1: be like, oh, Jared's a kidding kindy that nobody wants
Speaker 1: to Patty with. I kept calling like nobody wanted anything
Speaker 1: with Jared. So everybody's like fucking get me Grant like
Speaker 1: like this bon zone like straight, like maybe I will
Speaker 1: kiss the guy that Grant. So there's this one that
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, this woman Ali, who had she had
Speaker 1: been on years ago and like she take like a
Speaker 1: seven year hiatus and she came back and she had
Speaker 1: like new tit's the size of Jupiter, okay, like gigantic
Speaker 1: and like just the fault shebang, and but she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna kiss one guy. And everybody was just
Speaker 1: like falling for Ali. Everybody loved Ali, and so Ali
Speaker 1: was like, my kisses going to Grant, and so she
Speaker 1: grabbed her off and they are they have like they
Speaker 1: were pretty cute and they went on like so like
Speaker 1: bike riding dates and everything. But she was very she
Speaker 1: was she had a lot of self esteem and was
Speaker 1: like I'm just being with one person and I was
Speaker 1: very hurt. I'm just kissing Grant. They got engaged. They did,
Speaker 1: They got engaged. She comes to a visit and they
Speaker 1: break up because he's such a dirt ball that he
Speaker 1: said this on like he talked about it on a
Speaker 1: radio station and he released the texts. Apparently they all
Speaker 1: went out in Hollywood like I'm like a Tuesday night
Speaker 1: and he walked in at like midnight and allegedly friend
Speaker 1: was like eating her out in the stairwell. His friend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he walked in on his friend going down on her.
Speaker 1: Oh so he wasn't being a dirt ball. She was big.
Speaker 1: But he released all the like we were like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, you won't kiss anyone, but that his his
Speaker 1: friend could eat you out in the stairwells, like she
Speaker 1: was very drunk, like everyone was very drunk, and it
Speaker 1: was just like that. But then he told everybody and
Speaker 1: it went like, I mean, how crazy. I was like
Speaker 1: because of course, I like I wanted to follow up
Speaker 1: on all the couples that got engaged because I didn't
Speaker 1: know who anybody wasn't like are they still together? Are
Speaker 1: they still together? And that one was like I was grant,
Speaker 1: like so aally, you know, and I'm like wait, wait
Speaker 1: what like wait of all the reasons to break up,
Speaker 1: like what like she didn't even kiss anybody, She's getting
Speaker 1: eating nobody's room like his friend in the stairwell. What
Speaker 1: friend was? It was a Daniel. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was a I don't think it was a bachelor. It
Speaker 1: was somebody in l a it was isn't that crazy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was a friend who didn't know they were together,
Speaker 1: Like you didn't know that was Ali. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was just like the whole thing was like such
Speaker 1: a it was when you start, I'm very much no spoilers,
Speaker 1: so when I go, like, I really wait till I
Speaker 1: don't know how it's gonna end, and so like then
Speaker 1: when it's done, and it was such a good season
Speaker 1: and I'm deep diving, the last thing I expected to
Speaker 1: see was eating out and a sterile. It was just
Speaker 1: I didn't have any breakup. That detail has never been
Speaker 1: a detail in any breakup. It was so insane, Katie,
Speaker 1: What do you think of all that? I think it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it though it's great. You know, I
Speaker 1: keep meaning that I'll be real with you, and you're
Speaker 1: not gonna like this morning. So I'm just gonna tell
Speaker 1: you the truth. The first few are a little slow.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to tell you that. I just know that,
Speaker 1: and you also know that I'm I'm a psychoing off.
Speaker 1: I can tell you season two sucked, like you don't
Speaker 1: need to. I'll be real with you. It's season one
Speaker 1: gets better and better it's a blast, and that's that's my.
Speaker 1: That's my, that's my, that's my. I you were on
Speaker 1: Joe Joe's. I like JoJo's and I like Caitlin's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those were two great seasons. Yeah, it was what's your
Speaker 1: favorite season to watch? Well, I didn't watch it until
Speaker 1: I had skin in the game, So I didn't really
Speaker 1: watch the show until Ben's season, and then so I
Speaker 1: missed Caitlin's season. She was a great bachelor at there's
Speaker 1: a long time that I said that I was. I
Speaker 1: was from Caitlin's season because it felt like you were. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And there was just a lot of like right after
Speaker 1: the show, a lot of severe douchebaggery that was coming
Speaker 1: from like the dudes from my season, where I was
Speaker 1: just like, I don't want to be associated with this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like there was just a lot of guys who are
Speaker 1: partying and I remember, I remember your crowd, I know
Speaker 1: who it was. Yeah, it was just a lot and
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if I want to
Speaker 1: be like associated with this um. But now we're all cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, you get like a fifth
Speaker 1: teammates of fame, then you go ape shit, I guess
Speaker 1: and you start making you are eating people out in stairwells.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happen. You know what I know
Speaker 1: I would I know that is I cannot wait now
Speaker 1: that instatiables out, I'm gonna go find somebody and I'm
Speaker 1: just either I'm gonna go down on a stairwell. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna gonna find me at the grove like in
Speaker 1: the Parking Star. So I'm doing I'm like, where's my car?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm having a good time. Here's what. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. I'm asking you about
Speaker 1: So you're so your brother was the hunky model. So
Speaker 1: did you consider yourself You're like, did you think because
Speaker 1: you're a handsome gentleman, do you consider yourself? Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm I grew up with like a nerdy, smart brother.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine going up with like a model, Like
Speaker 1: did it make you feel less than with him? He's
Speaker 1: so much He's thirteen years older than me, so it
Speaker 1: didn't really matter. It didn't I didn't really compute for me.
Speaker 1: Another sister who was like a beauty queen as well, like, um, yeah, wet, wet,
Speaker 1: wet for sure, of course, the beauty Queen's obviously that's yeah,
Speaker 1: and so not really. I think my perception I had
Speaker 1: of myself was I was the funny one of the family,
Speaker 1: but I was also like the entertainer. I was the
Speaker 1: baby of the family, so I was always doing wacky
Speaker 1: things to get people to pay attention to me. Were
Speaker 1: you popular in school? Yeah, I think so, sunny. We
Speaker 1: just talked to Rob Benedict. He was also He was like,
Speaker 1: I was a funny one. Did you get girls in school? Yes?
Speaker 1: You did? Yeah? Interesting, Yeah, I I was. I don't
Speaker 1: know how I did it. Like to this day, I
Speaker 1: have really outkicked my coverage from the beginning. But I
Speaker 1: dated a girl who was a year older than me,
Speaker 1: and she was like known as the hottest girl in school.
Speaker 1: And were you in so I was a junior and
Speaker 1: she was a senior. Okay, that's like the prime time too.
Speaker 1: And then she went to college and we stayed together.
Speaker 1: I can't believe, I mean, God bless her, but like
Speaker 1: and so, and she was hot this where she went
Speaker 1: to college, and I was coming to like date parties
Speaker 1: as a senior in high school, which I'm sure it
Speaker 1: was so embarrassing. Yes, yeah, yeah, but you did it.
Speaker 1: I did it, interest killed it so funny, like both
Speaker 1: Rob and Wells, because in my mind, I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of the people that I'm friends with him,
Speaker 1: that I enjoy, were later bloomers, but you stayed a
Speaker 1: nice personage because and you have a personal in my mind,
Speaker 1: the blooming early like like I don't know, I guess,
Speaker 1: I I guess I think I knew people, but maybe
Speaker 1: the guys I know, we're funny and they got like
Speaker 1: and they got the ladies. In high school, I would
Speaker 1: say that I only have been successful with females because
Speaker 1: my personality I had nothing else to do with. I
Speaker 1: went through a pretty big fat stage. People don't know
Speaker 1: about that. How fat I had a fat stage. So
Speaker 1: I'm like one sixty right now. So I played I
Speaker 1: played rugby in college. I was like beefed up and
Speaker 1: like I'm like kind of big and um, and I
Speaker 1: was around like one seventy five at that point one
Speaker 1: eight and then I got really hurt. I broke my leg.
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of surgeries. I ate ice cream.
Speaker 1: I was very depressed, and I got like one eight
Speaker 1: five this frame there so and this is when I
Speaker 1: just first moved to Nashville, and I was living with
Speaker 1: my best friend's sister who was at Vanderbilt, and I
Speaker 1: live with two girls and all their story sisters come
Speaker 1: over and I was just a fat kid, okay, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't get up dates with them if
Speaker 1: I tried. How how old were you? This is right
Speaker 1: out of college? I was like twenty two. How long
Speaker 1: did you keep it on? UM? I think I think
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. It's weird to become I
Speaker 1: got fat, or later I got I would say around
Speaker 1: like I'm five three, and I would say it was
Speaker 1: I college. I was depressed and was I went to
Speaker 1: the wrong school. I didn't look I went to school
Speaker 1: in Colorado. UM. I talked about this in the book Act.
Speaker 1: I found my friend Cheryl, to my best friend, I
Speaker 1: didn't look at it, and she went and looked at it.
Speaker 1: I should have looked at No. I went to c
Speaker 1: C where it's like but it's like the same whatever,
Speaker 1: So I didn't look at it. She went, there's like
Speaker 1: all these hot guys on bicycle, and she was like,
Speaker 1: let's go those hot guys that I was like, great,
Speaker 1: let's go, So like I followed her there like an idiot.
Speaker 1: And then I got out of the car and like
Speaker 1: just tew like like there was a guy that lived
Speaker 1: across the Hall of he Me. His name was Ray,
Speaker 1: and he was a male witch and he had like
Speaker 1: a cloak. He was like a word. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: saw a merriwitch bowl called I'm like like he had
Speaker 1: like he was like fight. He had like a wooden
Speaker 1: he made a sword, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: was like that. It was like and it was just
Speaker 1: just sort of rich Trustafarian like trust fund Rastafarian white kids.
Speaker 1: And I was like, WHOA, I should have done That's
Speaker 1: why I don't. I should have done my research. And
Speaker 1: like I tried to drop out and then but my
Speaker 1: mom had already paid for my tuition and they and
Speaker 1: so I just made But I just got. I just got.
Speaker 1: I just started eating ice ice cream and then um.
Speaker 1: And then I went to Chicago when I was nineteen.
Speaker 1: I started doing improv there, like I had like I
Speaker 1: found like an arts program there and it was like
Speaker 1: I had a fake I d and it was like
Speaker 1: alcohol and like late night burritos and it was all
Speaker 1: these gigantic comedy guys like Adam McKay and like all
Speaker 1: these and they're like six six and so I would
Speaker 1: just try to keep up with them, and I just
Speaker 1: got fatter and fatter. In Chicago, nobody cares because it
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, then there's no women. But then I
Speaker 1: wasn't in Chicago. And then when people know you, you're
Speaker 1: like the little dumpling and it was hard. Were you
Speaker 1: Second City? I did improv Olympic, but it's where they
Speaker 1: all were before, um before they go to Second City,
Speaker 1: but it was like all the UCB founders where there.
Speaker 1: It's like where everybody kind of started. This guy Dull Close.
Speaker 1: So I was nine. It was awesome, but it was
Speaker 1: like it's weird when you're like, oh, my body has
Speaker 1: betrayed me, and now people know me. I'm like the
Speaker 1: curvy friend. Uh. And I remember before I graduated, I
Speaker 1: was like I'm going to lose this. So nobody in
Speaker 1: l A ever tells me to lose weight. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to jog. So no. Dick was like,
Speaker 1: we can't think it wasn't an option then, like at
Speaker 1: that point in time, everybody was like so skinny. I
Speaker 1: was like I just have to I have to get
Speaker 1: this done. I feel like everyone should have a fat stage,
Speaker 1: and everyone should have like a waiting tables phase, which
Speaker 1: usually intertwined with one another. Late night, you're smoking, you're drinking.
Speaker 1: You might be like making out with one of your coworkers.
Speaker 1: You're making weird decisions. You're like dry humping on like
Speaker 1: a like like by the by the like ice box.
Speaker 1: I was a waitress. I was a bad waitress. When
Speaker 1: did you wait tables? When I was in that well
Speaker 1: in college and when I was out of college and
Speaker 1: I was I was. I was a good waiter in
Speaker 1: terms of like talking to my tables and like making
Speaker 1: every one I feel like they're having a good time.
Speaker 1: But I was a horrible waiter with learning the menu.
Speaker 1: It's hard. Never learned the menu. It's made. Shut up,
Speaker 1: it's hard. Yeah. What kind of a restaurant was it?
Speaker 1: It was called brick Tops. It was like an iteration
Speaker 1: of Houston's I love the restaurant was good by the
Speaker 1: I love a chain restaurant, and I there was in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I was working in Dallas, and I ate every meal
Speaker 1: at a offshoot of Houston. Yea, I will do any
Speaker 1: chain restaurant. It's so funny too, because the last time
Speaker 1: I was on your show you had Rob on and
Speaker 1: I was like, it looks so fucking familiar. And we
Speaker 1: used to watch Waiting when we were waiting tables. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, and he was on that isn't he isn't Heah,
Speaker 1: he's the guy who can't peet. And it's so like
Speaker 1: when we when we waited tables, we watched that show
Speaker 1: or watch that movie at least once a week because
Speaker 1: it was like our citizen kid. Yes, And then it
Speaker 1: was just so I love that I brought you Waiting
Speaker 1: and bad. Yeah, I know exactly. My two know you haven't.
Speaker 1: I just want to and I don't mean to get
Speaker 1: too real here, but you have been strangely around or
Speaker 1: near me at very weird moments in my life. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I did that Outside Lands show with you two
Speaker 1: weeks after my dad died, and then like you were
Speaker 1: booked to do my show this last March, and then
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, guys, like and then my mom died
Speaker 1: and like but you still you still did it. Well.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna pile on and be like no, can't
Speaker 1: you were you freaked out? No, it's feel I feel
Speaker 1: horrible for you. It was hard. It is horrible I
Speaker 1: wouldn't recommend it. It's horrible. Yeah, it's horrible. I'm just
Speaker 1: amazed because you're such like a positive energy. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that happened to me, I think i'd
Speaker 1: have been like podcast canceled day, I gotta go walk
Speaker 1: around a lake or something. I mean, it was a
Speaker 1: weird thing because like when my dad died, we had
Speaker 1: you know, we knew it was going to happen at
Speaker 1: some point soon, and um, it's weird, and I time
Speaker 1: it was okay. The book deal literally closed the day
Speaker 1: of her funeral, Like so I've been like trying to
Speaker 1: sell the thing for years and I get this email
Speaker 1: like going to the funeral. It's like I hope you're
Speaker 1: having a great week, Like we're excited to do this book.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, like there's a might be a
Speaker 1: little it's like it might be a little different. Now
Speaker 1: there's been like a weird event. But like writing it,
Speaker 1: I realized the podcast like has it's so strange. But
Speaker 1: I had never been that personal in my stand up.
Speaker 1: And my dad died on a sun Saturday or Sunday
Speaker 1: during Paradise, and I remember I had to fly home
Speaker 1: and like and I made the decision, and like, because
Speaker 1: my mom like doing the podcast, my brother enjoyed, I
Speaker 1: was like, let's just do it. And we did it
Speaker 1: from the den, and like I remember, there was no
Speaker 1: hiding that where you were there, and I was curious
Speaker 1: if it was going to like freak people out. And
Speaker 1: then people started this emailing in and then and then
Speaker 1: we had the live show and I'm remember Heightener of
Speaker 1: course made like the worst joke from the stage and
Speaker 1: like he freaked out the audience at first. But I
Speaker 1: remember deciding, like one of the gifts of grief is
Speaker 1: like I think your body very much. I find I
Speaker 1: know exactly who I want to see and who I
Speaker 1: don't want to see, and what I want to do
Speaker 1: and what It's so clear I can't fake it. And
Speaker 1: so I was like, no, I want to go do that.
Speaker 1: And like the audience was so sweet and so um
Speaker 1: and just the response of people because like everybody has ship,
Speaker 1: so it's been interesting. And then when it happened again,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess, I guess we do it, And
Speaker 1: in a in a weird way, it helped provide like
Speaker 1: normalcy for me and my brother and I watched the
Speaker 1: show together and we took notes together, we did it
Speaker 1: in the done, and um, it actually like it's I
Speaker 1: never in a million years what I have thought the
Speaker 1: Bachelor And in a weird way, like this podcast, I
Speaker 1: think I built my own life raft. It's because it
Speaker 1: keeps you connected to people and something to focus because
Speaker 1: you have a lifetime of unpacking that, but it's like
Speaker 1: something to do in the moment that kind of reminds
Speaker 1: you who you are. I know. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: I've been trying to figure out this whole thing for
Speaker 1: a while. And social media can be a horrible place
Speaker 1: but can also be like a wonderful place. And saying
Speaker 1: with podcast, I think they're similar. There's different mediums, um,
Speaker 1: but like if if done well and done right, really
Speaker 1: all they are is like a window into your life.
Speaker 1: And then and then you can have people relate to you,
Speaker 1: and everyone just wants the people to understand you, you know,
Speaker 1: like and so when like things like that happened with
Speaker 1: the podcast or even like on social media, and then
Speaker 1: you see like an influx of people being like, I
Speaker 1: totally relate to what what you're going through. It's a weird,
Speaker 1: weirdly comforting thing with all like the negatives that there
Speaker 1: are on social media and on the internet. Like I
Speaker 1: think those like the two really good things that come
Speaker 1: out of it. You know, I agree, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a weird. Um it's a weird thing to also, like
Speaker 1: I remember even debating, like oh do we for both
Speaker 1: of them. We sort of waited like two days to like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is wait a couple of days and then we
Speaker 1: put like a we did a thing on like Facebook
Speaker 1: or like and just so people who knew. But it's
Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing when your life turns upside down
Speaker 1: and like you kind of can't hide it, and like
Speaker 1: there's a way of um, I don't know, I guess
Speaker 1: what I would say, like and I do talk about
Speaker 1: this and like the thing like that you can have
Speaker 1: your worst thing happen and still like still be yourself. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It also makes it so you can't like do the
Speaker 1: thing that you probably shouldn't do, which is like push
Speaker 1: that emotion down and like not think about and talk
Speaker 1: about it. If you've got to go on air or whatever,
Speaker 1: then you have to acknowledge acknowledge it, and then it's
Speaker 1: it's probably some sort of like nice Kobe mechanism and
Speaker 1: makes you have to face it, you know. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking like, Okay, in a year, I can
Speaker 1: either be sad or I can be sad, fat and broke.
Speaker 1: I was like I just want to be sad, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it's like okay, let's just
Speaker 1: deal with this and like not like not sink the
Speaker 1: not sink the whole ship. Um you when did you
Speaker 1: move here? I moved here like a year and a
Speaker 1: half ago, and um, did you move right? Did you
Speaker 1: move you? And you and Sarah Highland are getting married?
Speaker 1: We are, Yeah, we're getting we're engaged. When did you
Speaker 1: get Did you guys live together right away? Yeah? It
Speaker 1: was an interesting thing because I was going to move
Speaker 1: out here. My contract with my heart had ended, like
Speaker 1: there was just not much for me to do out
Speaker 1: in Nashville. I had made like a deal with myself
Speaker 1: that's been ten years there and if I wasn't married
Speaker 1: with kids, I would go experience something new I didn't
Speaker 1: did eleven years. So it was like I gotta go.
Speaker 1: I want to go to l A And um. I
Speaker 1: remember having the conversation because my brother going back to
Speaker 1: him is a property manager, so he knows where a
Speaker 1: bunch of apartments were and I was like, um, so
Speaker 1: I'm looking for and I remember having a conversation with
Speaker 1: Sarah being like, Okay, so I want to find something
Speaker 1: kind of close to you, and you know when I
Speaker 1: need a backyard for the dog and YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: And I remember her being like a little offended that
Speaker 1: it wasn't like, why don't you just move in with me?
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 1: want to assume that I'm going to live with you.
Speaker 1: And now she was like, no, that's so weird. Just
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you move in with me? And so that's
Speaker 1: how that happened. And that was just very nice and
Speaker 1: I didn't have to worry about getting anything. And then
Speaker 1: how was the transition out here super easy? Because I'm
Speaker 1: from California? California, Yeah, so I can always drive up
Speaker 1: and see my parents, which of course I never do.
Speaker 1: But from northern California girls, Yeah, where are you guys from? Yeah? Francisco, Montere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you consider that Bay area,
Speaker 1: I consider like central that's where the seals are, yeah,
Speaker 1: and the Otters and the Otters, the Otters, the Otters,
Speaker 1: So it wasn't a bad weird transition for me. It
Speaker 1: was actually quite nice. Yeah. Good And are you how
Speaker 1: did you where did you get engaged in Fiji? Was
Speaker 1: it beautiful there? Yeah? It was really amazing. It was
Speaker 1: just this is a lot of it's it's stressful to
Speaker 1: get engaged, like to do it, to like execute it
Speaker 1: and do it well. And for me, it was tough
Speaker 1: because I was filming in Paradise for the month before,
Speaker 1: like we were supposed to wrap on like June twenty nine,
Speaker 1: and we were supposed to leave for Fiji on July third,
Speaker 1: so like I literally was coming home, not unpacking because
Speaker 1: it was just beach where anyways, and then going there.
Speaker 1: But I had to get the ring and so like,
Speaker 1: and I was in Mexico, so I had to get
Speaker 1: the ring before I get all that stuff done before
Speaker 1: I left for Mexico. So I was like, did you
Speaker 1: bring it to Mexico. No. I had the window of
Speaker 1: three days to get the ring once I got back
Speaker 1: from Mexico before I went to Fiji, and there was
Speaker 1: like a stress with that and it didn't get almost
Speaker 1: didn't get here in time. I know guys say that
Speaker 1: once they have the ring in their pockets, like burning
Speaker 1: a hole in their pocket, like all they can think, like,
Speaker 1: you gotta get rid of it. How so that's a
Speaker 1: long flight too. Did you act weird? Do you think
Speaker 1: leading up to it? Did you act it? Were you
Speaker 1: were like smooth leading up to it? Or I think
Speaker 1: I was pretty cool. I I think I blew my
Speaker 1: cover like the day of for sure, But we I
Speaker 1: put it in my I've told the story before I
Speaker 1: put the ring in my I brought my drone. Yeah
Speaker 1: you did, and because my thought was I'll have the
Speaker 1: drone hovering and it'll videotape me getting down on a
Speaker 1: knee and which did I use that footage like on Instagram? Um?
Speaker 1: But I had the ring in the drone case and
Speaker 1: when I didn't know this, but when you go to
Speaker 1: a different country and you bring a drone into the country,
Speaker 1: they have to inspect it and they have to and
Speaker 1: you have to like fill out paperwork. Was you there?
Speaker 1: So we're in customs and Fiji and the guys like
Speaker 1: is this a drone? I was like, yeah, it's a drone.
Speaker 1: We have to inspect this. And then so then I
Speaker 1: say to him, Okay, hold on, can we go can
Speaker 1: we do this? In a different room, which I'm sure
Speaker 1: is not what any t s a I want to hear. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have to go to a different room. So I
Speaker 1: take we go into the room and I'm like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: all cool, you can look at this. The engagement rings
Speaker 1: in there, and I don't. I didn't want them to
Speaker 1: open it. And then she was going to see the
Speaker 1: box and over. Yeah. It was stressful, and it's also
Speaker 1: burning a hole in your pocket because men, for the
Speaker 1: most part, never have anything that expensive in their person ever,
Speaker 1: and it and we're like, men are so stupid that
Speaker 1: you of course I'm gonna lose this. I lose my
Speaker 1: phone every thirty seconds, Like I'm gonna lose this very
Speaker 1: endsive rings. So it's like I gotta I have to
Speaker 1: give it to you so you can suck it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, And that was my thought. I remember, And
Speaker 1: I kept on putting the drone h in the safe
Speaker 1: and she's like, what did you give this seven drone
Speaker 1: to dip ship And I was like, no, I got
Speaker 1: I don't trust depleting crew here. That my drne everyone's
Speaker 1: my rope, my drone. Yeah, and then so uh yeah,
Speaker 1: then when when it when it came down to it.
Speaker 1: She was putting a lot. She knew his comings, and
Speaker 1: she was putting a lot of makeup. And I was like,
Speaker 1: why are you get so dressed up? There's a picnic?
Speaker 1: And because we're going? Yeah. So then then I pulled
Speaker 1: a little, you know, because I can act to. I
Speaker 1: put on a T shirt and bathing trunks or like
Speaker 1: a tank top, and I was like, what do you think?
Speaker 1: Is this good? And she goes, I don't know, is it?
Speaker 1: And I was like, so that, I put on a
Speaker 1: collar shirt and then we went and then when are
Speaker 1: you getting married? Is it secret? Oh? We just don't
Speaker 1: know yet. We haven't really started doing that yet. I
Speaker 1: think when I think, well, congratulations, that's exciting. Do you
Speaker 1: want to get Do you want to get married? Katie?
Speaker 1: Do you want to get married? M I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm weird about contracts. It's the Persian in me. Did
Speaker 1: you what did your dad think of Zack? Do you
Speaker 1: think I've spoken to my dad about this? But did
Speaker 1: they get along? My dad and Zack? Yeah, they're great,
Speaker 1: a little too great? You know? No, No, I get it, No,
Speaker 1: I know, I get it. Have you heard that as
Speaker 1: he's a sorry a bit about marriage. No, what is it?
Speaker 1: Have you heard it? No, it's so funny. He's like,
Speaker 1: the concept of it just ridiculous. I'm gonna butcher because
Speaker 1: but he's like, the concept of it is ridiculous. You know,
Speaker 1: you say, hey, put this thing on your finger to prove,
Speaker 1: to show everyone that your mind, you can't back out,
Speaker 1: and then sign this piece of paper that that shows
Speaker 1: that we're going to be together forever until we die.
Speaker 1: And then she then he goes like, why are we
Speaker 1: doing this tax reasons? It's so crazy? It is so weird.
Speaker 1: Are your parents still married? They're split up? Did they
Speaker 1: split up? Like right when I was in high school
Speaker 1: the middle of me going through high school? Yeah? Was
Speaker 1: it out of the blue? Uh? Kind of? I just
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was being super perceptive of
Speaker 1: the whole thing, but it was tough. I was the
Speaker 1: only one left in the house, so I was having
Speaker 1: to deal with the fighting and all that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff from you know, I was choosing sides, which is
Speaker 1: tough to do. And um, you know, I think everything
Speaker 1: worked out the way it was supposed to. But her
Speaker 1: parents are still together, so that's nice. And we just
Speaker 1: had the meeting of the parents, which was interesting. It
Speaker 1: went really well. You know, she's her family's all actors.
Speaker 1: They're all like Broadway liberal, you know, New Yorkers, and um,
Speaker 1: my parents are from Carmel, California. My dad's a doctor,
Speaker 1: a conservative, you know, like okay, okay, so it's just
Speaker 1: a lot of money there, and you know, so, um,
Speaker 1: we were just very nervous, like and then there's impeachment
Speaker 1: proceedings going on, like like waiting for some of the
Speaker 1: same I know, the politics stuff. Stuff is tough. It's tough. Um,
Speaker 1: So we were nervous about that and it ended up
Speaker 1: you know, I think you never give like your family
Speaker 1: as much credit as they deserve. And of course they
Speaker 1: were going to be fine, but we were stressing about
Speaker 1: things that we probably didn't need to stress about. And
Speaker 1: everyone was lovely and it went wonderfully. And my dad
Speaker 1: and her dad like texting now, and my mom and
Speaker 1: her mom my friends on Facebook, and I saw that
Speaker 1: liking pictures, which is terrifying. But here we are. I
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but things are getting hot in here.
Speaker 1: I think your break. What what are you doing in
Speaker 1: l A. Do you have a radio show? Why? I
Speaker 1: was doing my radio shows like in l a for Nashville,
Speaker 1: and I did that for like a year, and as
Speaker 1: I think, at some point they were like, one, you
Speaker 1: don't live here anymore, and like, it's weird that you're
Speaker 1: not going on client calls and stuff. So also the
Speaker 1: money wasn't super great, so I think we just both
Speaker 1: went our separate. What ended up happening was I was
Speaker 1: I went and filmed a pilot for a different network,
Speaker 1: so I was gone for a month, and then I
Speaker 1: had to go film for Paradise for an entire month,
Speaker 1: so effectively I was gone for like two and a
Speaker 1: half months. And they were like, dude, you can't. You
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta figure something out. So then we separate.
Speaker 1: So I'm not doing radio anymore. I do two podcasts,
Speaker 1: um podcast, So I still do y f T Your
Speaker 1: Favorite Thing, and that's with Brandy Cyrus and that's just
Speaker 1: a podcast about what our favorite things are that week.
Speaker 1: So like Insatiable, we loved the visa. By the way,
Speaker 1: I have to say, like I've seen your I mean
Speaker 1: when we first met, I don't know if you were
Speaker 1: on Shameless, and then you were you were on Shameless
Speaker 1: there like in the middle of our meeting, yeah, and
Speaker 1: which is weird because Sarah's best friends with Jeremy who
Speaker 1: lives on the street from us, and like came to
Speaker 1: our engagement party in Nattie and uh and then now
Speaker 1: you're on Insatiable and Sarah's like best friend in the
Speaker 1: world is Debbie. Yeah, and so it's like, whatever show
Speaker 1: you do next, Sarah needs to be love it. I
Speaker 1: love that Debbie is the best. She's so sweet. Um,
Speaker 1: I know, she's spoken so highly and like and I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: because she talks a lot of ship to my face.
Speaker 1: This was fun of but I made her start watching
Speaker 1: The Bachelor, and so I remember she met she was
Speaker 1: with you at the I Heart thing like two years ago,
Speaker 1: and she was like she because she was like her
Speaker 1: first year that she had been watching. She watched Becca
Speaker 1: and she watched Ari was her first one. But like
Speaker 1: watching her be so excited for people to find their
Speaker 1: love journey and that she was with you and she
Speaker 1: was like Dean's drunk like that, take pictures. It's so fun.
Speaker 1: Need to watch her fan girl people, and she loves
Speaker 1: you guys together, no, I know. And I got to
Speaker 1: meet Josh at like the night before party and so
Speaker 1: we're best friends now, which is great. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: Obviously I asked him if I could open up for
Speaker 1: him as an amateur magician. Can you imagine, Hello Paris
Speaker 1: like me the world's worst opening act. He was a
Speaker 1: good sport. He was like, I'll get back to you
Speaker 1: on that. So I think I'm hoping that that I'm
Speaker 1: counting on. I think it's probably gonna happen. Said, that's
Speaker 1: probably gonna happen. Um, okay, you said before we go
Speaker 1: that you know, we're obsessed with what happened with what
Speaker 1: happened to Peter's face? How did he count? Did this
Speaker 1: poor young pilot get twenty one stitches in his face
Speaker 1: that you allegedly? What have you sort of around about her?
Speaker 1: What I heard was, and this is from a pretty
Speaker 1: reputable source. I heard that, uh um, he was. He
Speaker 1: was like on a golf cart, you know, like you've
Speaker 1: been on set, like if you're he was on a
Speaker 1: golf cart driving somewhere, and he was holding two glasses
Speaker 1: of champagne and he was for the show. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: and um, you know, like if you've ever gotten in
Speaker 1: or out of a golf cart, they've got that like
Speaker 1: overhand from what I heard was he got out. He
Speaker 1: was either getting out and trying to get back into
Speaker 1: the golf cart and forgot to like duck his head
Speaker 1: and so when he did that, his head hit the
Speaker 1: roof of it and then that kind of pushed it
Speaker 1: down into the glass, and the glass broke and cut
Speaker 1: his head. You know what, That's the only like I
Speaker 1: feel like you actually made it sound plausible. That actually
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I believe that because I'm hearing freak
Speaker 1: accident to alcohol classes day, I just your day drinking, hey,
Speaker 1: drinking golf clard. I just hear like, who's ready for
Speaker 1: the nineteenth whol Like I need to see that footage.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry he has stitches. But then I hear, I
Speaker 1: mean it's his face fucked up a lot of stitches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, poor guy. I mean, who wants to
Speaker 1: go into fantasy suits with that? And I heard that
Speaker 1: he was like so apologetic about the whole thing and
Speaker 1: being like did I ruin the show? And you know,
Speaker 1: the person telling me this was like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? This is the best kind of made. There's
Speaker 1: going to be an ambulancy. Oh my god, You're right
Speaker 1: to be continued it'll be a two parter. It'll be
Speaker 1: a two partter. I was just trying. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: it's on his forehead because I was trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how he could go to like windmill sex like
Speaker 1: with like cheek, like a cheek, like a full that's
Speaker 1: a lot of stitches. Have you had, like a face
Speaker 1: or a head injury? Like it bleeds, that's right, and
Speaker 1: it bleeds and it's right near your bonus bleeds and bleeds.
Speaker 1: I bet it was a shit. Yeah. Look, I'm sure
Speaker 1: look like a murder you. I mean literally like a
Speaker 1: full fucking murder, like like just the world's worst, like
Speaker 1: like somebody had a bad grudge and like just just
Speaker 1: ship hit the fan. Guys. What a journey we've been on.
Speaker 1: What a journey. Well, Adams, I'm such a fan of yours.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you came to join us. Is there
Speaker 1: anything you want to there? Anything you need us to know.
Speaker 1: I just want to say I'm so happy for you
Speaker 1: and proud of you. First of all, I can't wait
Speaker 1: for this book to come out. Well, you guys, please
Speaker 1: preorder it right now. I need to sell it, Okay, Amazons,
Speaker 1: there's a link. Little miss little Compton and let me
Speaker 1: just say this, treat it like for your future self, Like,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna want to put it off. Don't just
Speaker 1: go order it now, order one for your friend. Allegedly,
Speaker 1: to get on the New York Times bestseller you need
Speaker 1: to sell eight thousand copies. Okay, we can do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it for eight thousand of your friends. I'll sign all
Speaker 1: of them. I'll pay you back in in in podcasts.
Speaker 1: I don't know, guys, I'll sign anything. Thank you. The
Speaker 1: book is good. I did. I worked hard on it. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear. Have you done an audible version yet?
Speaker 1: Not yet? Are you gonna voice it? A journey? Okay?
Speaker 1: So I could I preorder that? Yeah? Like, oh my god?
Speaker 1: And here I am his middle school Why do I
Speaker 1: look like for stranger things? Don't worry? She glowed up
Speaker 1: like that's like seventy eight pages of it. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna be on our live show? So you just went
Speaker 1: on his show? Yeah, he has a daily podcast, which
Speaker 1: is it seems a lot. I know. I did it,
Speaker 1: and it was I was on with Kevin Kirkpatrick. From him,
Speaker 1: it was like I was on the right a boy
Speaker 1: band girl. No, which actually made it easier for me
Speaker 1: to be like how what is happening? Like yeah, which
Speaker 1: makes it easy I get weirder around like now I'm
Speaker 1: like kind of a queen instances with like Molly Shannon,
Speaker 1: who for me as it like growing up, she was
Speaker 1: the person I watched on TV and like I wanted
Speaker 1: to be like I loved her and it's hard for
Speaker 1: it's hard still for me to be cool around like
Speaker 1: I loved her. Yeah, who was the first celebrity you met?
Speaker 1: And who have you fun girled out them? Like? Who?
Speaker 1: Fan boy? Who freaks? Like? Who? Is it hard for
Speaker 1: you to be cool around? It's always musicians that I
Speaker 1: actors for whatever don't give me anxiety. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, but yeah, musicians who who like crippled
Speaker 1: you with like oh my god, it's blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Do you know who Wayne Coin is from being called
Speaker 1: the Flaming Lips, I know the Flaming Lips? Yeah, okay
Speaker 1: for whatever, So he's really good friends with Miley Cyrus.
Speaker 1: This just shows you, like my weird like where I
Speaker 1: was putting things in perspective, I was it was like
Speaker 1: after the VMAs and Molly had hosted and I went
Speaker 1: to because I do. I'm friends with her sister, Brandy,
Speaker 1: and we went to the after show and it was
Speaker 1: like Miley Cyrus and like all these famous musicians and
Speaker 1: then um Wayne Quinn walked in and I was like, Brandy,
Speaker 1: that's Wayne Quoin. She was like, yes, so who cares? When?
Speaker 1: When was do you realize even popular song? Yes? And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, um so yeah. That
Speaker 1: was one time where I freaked out. The Chelsea Lately finale.
Speaker 1: I mean they had like it was like Jennifer Aniston
Speaker 1: and like Sandra Bullock and Dave Grohl, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Like when Stefan I was like, it's
Speaker 1: fucking Tim Gone, I'm like, oh my god, it's Tim
Speaker 1: Gun It make it work like too good? Tim Gone on.
Speaker 1: Like I like, there was the one that I couldn't Like,
Speaker 1: I didn't everybody else, like I couldn't believe it was yeah,
Speaker 1: Steve Martin. Steve Martin. For me, I could not keep
Speaker 1: it together. Yeah, I had um when I lived in Nashville.
Speaker 1: This is so crazy. When I lived in Nashville, the
Speaker 1: guy who owned our housn named Buddy Miller, who's like
Speaker 1: a famous session musician and like local musician god. And
Speaker 1: he was the bandleader for Robert Plant's band called Band
Speaker 1: of Joy. And so his house was across the street
Speaker 1: from ours. And I remember like waiting tables and moonlighting
Speaker 1: at a radio station, getting back from like a double
Speaker 1: shift at brick tops, like out in the stoop, smoking
Speaker 1: a cigarette with like my buddies, and we saw um,
Speaker 1: Robert Plant, Jeff Bridges, Emmy Lou Harris, and Tebone Burnett
Speaker 1: all walk into the house and we were all like
Speaker 1: and this is the time, which I did smoke a
Speaker 1: lot of pot and I was like, did I see
Speaker 1: what there? Yes? That is like And so at the time,
Speaker 1: because I was like his tenant, buddy would ask me
Speaker 1: to come over and like help move stuff. And so
Speaker 1: he was like, hey, man, do you mind you and
Speaker 1: your friends come over and help us move this two
Speaker 1: inch real recorder And we were like, so you did it. Yes.
Speaker 1: I remember walking walking and were lifted up this like
Speaker 1: forty year old Robert your hair stripe Big Lebowski over here.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I need to rewatch The Big Lebowski.
Speaker 1: That's such a good movie. So good, Okay. I so
Speaker 1: a lot of the book I talked about awkward and listen,
Speaker 1: I truly believe our middle school year. It's so formative
Speaker 1: and even we can kind of grow and like work around.
Speaker 1: Please give me a jewel of awkward, wells eyes, give
Speaker 1: me a middle school story, please, Wells Adams. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: did you have a shitty gym coach? Do you have
Speaker 1: a gym teacher? Dude? We had this one. Then this
Speaker 1: is so not what I was going to tell you.
Speaker 1: But I want to hear both. I want to hear both.
Speaker 1: I went to an all boys Catholic school. Interesting okay,
Speaker 1: and after pe we had to take showers, and I
Speaker 1: remember there was one gym teacher who would with a
Speaker 1: clipboard mark off if you went in the shower naked,
Speaker 1: and if you didn't, you didn't get marked off. No,
Speaker 1: I can't even yeah for his own records. I remember
Speaker 1: being like, why is this important? You knew even at
Speaker 1: the time, You're like, um, yes, in twenty years, you
Speaker 1: won't be able to do this, Like I was there
Speaker 1: a stuff. You're younger than me, but like there was
Speaker 1: some ship, like it was there stuff in your school
Speaker 1: or like that they could never do now an all
Speaker 1: boys Catholic, he was taught by brothers. Um and I
Speaker 1: remember Rode Dalton, brother Dalton R I P. He was
Speaker 1: fucking awesome. He was the boxing coach, but he was
Speaker 1: also the history teacher. And I remember what great are
Speaker 1: we in here? Junior sophomore junior high school? High school?
Speaker 1: Um he I remember he would do this that he
Speaker 1: would make a fist and then he'd make his middle
Speaker 1: knuckle come out and if you like did anything wrong,
Speaker 1: he would just come by and knuckle kid. And he
Speaker 1: was the boxing coacht. Fucking see it stars Dalton. And
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I looked back at that guy being
Speaker 1: so awesome. I mean that's the thing. It's like like
Speaker 1: there's just certain like I feel like there was like
Speaker 1: a recklessness that's sort of fun, Like there's a wild
Speaker 1: adult like like Robin story about people literating, like there's
Speaker 1: something where's like they're like, what is going on here?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Just like like there's and
Speaker 1: like at the time, it's like fun and great, and
Speaker 1: now people would be like, can we see you in
Speaker 1: our office? Bro Dalton? You know no? I remember Bro Dalton.
Speaker 1: Once I fell asleep in class and it became I meant,
Speaker 1: must start snoring or something. You get niled with a knuckle. No,
Speaker 1: instead of instead of nailing me with the knuckle, he
Speaker 1: was like, everyone be quiet and we ended classy did
Speaker 1: everyone leave? And then I kept sleeping, which meant I
Speaker 1: missed like the next three classes, which means I would
Speaker 1: get suspended. A prank, a full prank from a father. Okay,
Speaker 1: give me the story you were going to tell me.
Speaker 1: I one of my best friends, his parents were like
Speaker 1: super religious, and we went we were skiing in Tahoe
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I remember she, Mrs Herbert, made dinner
Speaker 1: for everyone and she made rack of lamb and polenta
Speaker 1: or something, and we were sitting there eating and I went,
Speaker 1: Mrs Herbert, your placenta is delicious. Oh my god, Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Was high school. Everyone just lit up and
Speaker 1: I was like, what's so funny? This is her? Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Oh and I've got I've got like a today,
Speaker 1: like an nowaday. So when Sarah and I first started
Speaker 1: um dating, she had just gotten a kidney transplant, and
Speaker 1: so you can't really get you can't do you can't
Speaker 1: be intimate intimate, so it was a lot of like
Speaker 1: makeing out and like grinding and I'm in my thirties
Speaker 1: at this point, but like, I'm flying out to l
Speaker 1: A to spend time with this, with this my new girlfriend.
Speaker 1: And so there was one night where she sent her
Speaker 1: parents out for a movie, like go to a movie,
Speaker 1: go to dinner, like paid for it, like get out
Speaker 1: of the house. My boyfriend's coming over, we're gonna watch
Speaker 1: we want some alone time or whatever. And uh so
Speaker 1: we were we were making out and doing some grinding
Speaker 1: and we didn't hear parents and so and it's just
Speaker 1: so funny because I went in my thirties and so
Speaker 1: she like jumps like jumps off of me. I like
Speaker 1: run around to like the other side of the couch.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. I also have to
Speaker 1: run with like, oh my god, huge, huge. He was
Speaker 1: like a huge owner. Have you met her parents at
Speaker 1: this point? I had, But like once or twice, what
Speaker 1: did you say? It's like, how's the movie? What did
Speaker 1: they say? They're artists though there they were probably more losing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure they were acting. And uh they
Speaker 1: went to go see some some movie about tennis and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh yeah, oh the tennis was like going
Speaker 1: off and I was just sitting there, just gunched over
Speaker 1: think I think we were the only three people who
Speaker 1: saw It's a good movie. I enjoyed it. Um, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that what happened? And then I was like,
Speaker 1: this is Mido over again. Let me ask you, did
Speaker 1: you like, did you ever sneak out like at night?
Speaker 1: Like and did you get caught? Like what was your
Speaker 1: sneakiest Like did you go okay, like an elaborate like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell them I'm at your house, and like
Speaker 1: was it strict if you went to a Catholic school?
Speaker 1: Were family strict? Do you have to sneak around? Not really?
Speaker 1: Because I was the youngest of five, they've given up
Speaker 1: on me. We had the house that had the guesthouse
Speaker 1: that was like the party Like my parents were fine
Speaker 1: with everyone coming over and would kind of like throw
Speaker 1: a blind eye to the drinking as long as no
Speaker 1: one drove. Rob was the baby, and Rob also had
Speaker 1: the party house, and I think he's was one of
Speaker 1: how many it's interesting, it's interesting, But I did used
Speaker 1: to hook up with the girl that lived I lived
Speaker 1: on a golf course and so she lived like up then,
Speaker 1: yeah you did, and so I used like it's so funny,
Speaker 1: but like I would sneak out and sneak into like
Speaker 1: climb through the window and and make out with her whatnot.
Speaker 1: And I remember one night her dad knocked on the
Speaker 1: door and I'd go hide in the closet and I
Speaker 1: have never been more terrified in my life. That's fun though,
Speaker 1: Sneaking around is fine. Well, and my dipship friends they
Speaker 1: knew that, Like I was in there hooking up and
Speaker 1: they were all jealous, so they would fault. They would calm,
Speaker 1: and they would throw rocks at the roof. I mean
Speaker 1: to try to. That's it's fun about it. I love
Speaker 1: a dipship friends. Are you still friends with your high
Speaker 1: school friends? Yes? To me, there's sometimes there's nothing funnier
Speaker 1: than some of your child Like some of my childhood
Speaker 1: friends are the funniest fucking like they're just regular lady,
Speaker 1: They're just so fucking fun. There's something about going through
Speaker 1: that age, like ten to seventeen or eighteen with somebody.
Speaker 1: It's like because you're banding together and you're like sneaking
Speaker 1: out and doing stuff. Did you get in trouble, Anna, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got in trouble a lot. Why what would you do?
Speaker 1: I mean, I was had like very strict Persian parents
Speaker 1: and like a very Muslim mother who always was like
Speaker 1: God's watching. I'd be like, yeah, fuck off. So and
Speaker 1: I liked drugs, so I was I was living. I
Speaker 1: was living. Did they know you were high? Uh? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I was just acting. I think it was
Speaker 1: quite clear I was acting weird and like coming home
Speaker 1: and being like, how I gotta go to my room? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you get in trouble, Katie? I bet you didn't.
Speaker 1: My parents were pretty lax, Like I used to come
Speaker 1: home high and my dad would suck with me, like
Speaker 1: I've been sitting there. Oh he knew because he smoked weed,
Speaker 1: like we smoked weed together, and you know, a cool
Speaker 1: northern California family. I would be sitting there like watching
Speaker 1: cartoons and he cereal and he'd walk in and be like,
Speaker 1: you look like you want some chocolate. And I'd be like,
Speaker 1: do we have chocolate? And he'd be like no, you
Speaker 1: just like look like you really want chocolate right now.
Speaker 1: And then one day I remember he like I had
Speaker 1: to move my car for some reason, and I had
Speaker 1: like a pipe and a lighter and uh and uh,
Speaker 1: your eye drops in the glove compartment or I thought
Speaker 1: they were but I went back in my car and
Speaker 1: everything was just like perfectly like set on the dashboard,
Speaker 1: like he found it and he just put it right
Speaker 1: there to be like, look what I found. I like
Speaker 1: that your dad did that. He just funk with me
Speaker 1: all the time. I got chipped off to boarding school
Speaker 1: because we didn't have a high school in my town
Speaker 1: or anywhere nearby, and so in some ways, I know,
Speaker 1: like the school was the authoritarian, you know, Like so
Speaker 1: it's like that was like I didn't have to rebel
Speaker 1: against my parents so much as like we were in lockdown.
Speaker 1: It was sort of fun because you're like trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how to escape your dorm and it was
Speaker 1: co ed. You'd figure out like we'd like like figure
Speaker 1: out where to meet, you know. It was terrifying, and
Speaker 1: fun was the opposite. I went to We went like
Speaker 1: on a family trip to England when I was fourteen,
Speaker 1: and like they don't care there. My dad's like, go
Speaker 1: order a beer, and I want to order to gain
Speaker 1: us because that's the only beer I knew the name of.
Speaker 1: And then he made me drink it and then laughed
Speaker 1: at me because they hated it. I do write a
Speaker 1: chapter in my book about the first time I tried
Speaker 1: wine was at my friend's house. She like, we grew up,
Speaker 1: you know, TV blaring, you come over, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like iceberg Lettas entertainment tonight like during just like not elegant.
Speaker 1: And my friend's house had like their family was so elegant,
Speaker 1: and they were like doctors and they played cellos and
Speaker 1: they had like leather bound copies of the New Yorker
Speaker 1: and like it was just like roast chicken, and they
Speaker 1: were so they felt like a Western Anderson family, like
Speaker 1: Sofia Coppola, Like they ate figs in a rugla and
Speaker 1: like bostamic vinegar. And I was like, I was like
Speaker 1: what and so? And I remember they were intimidating and
Speaker 1: like their grandfather helped start the new like they were
Speaker 1: so smart. And I remember I was like sixteen and
Speaker 1: they just gave me wine, and I so I quietly
Speaker 1: just kept fulling it up all night and eventually had
Speaker 1: like a full like wine teeth, like full blue wine
Speaker 1: mustache and wine teeth and like completely started like throwing
Speaker 1: up later and then like a key us the mom
Speaker 1: of giving me food poison. I panic and I blamed it.
Speaker 1: I was like it was your bad, like full ship bag,
Speaker 1: no accountability, just asks, just such an ass hat. I
Speaker 1: remember playing Go to the Head of the Class. I'm
Speaker 1: losing and they were so smart and I'm like this
Speaker 1: having more wine. It wasn't a pretty night. I just
Speaker 1: I just got nervous and I pianic. I pianic placenta.
Speaker 1: You know what, Mrs Work, I'm your placenta. You placenta
Speaker 1: is delicious. I mean, man, am I compliments? Wells Adams,
Speaker 1: we will you come play with us this year during
Speaker 1: the season or you do? You have your own Bachelor podcast?
Speaker 1: Can you come do? Can you come do them with us? Great?
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