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Speaker 1: in Wednesday Morning Podcast. My buddy Nick Wright. Last time

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Speaker 1: We made it a two parter. It was like the

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Speaker 1: movie Gettysburg, except good and watchable. Some thoughts about the

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Speaker 1: k D story. Listen, I know it's football season, Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant about a month and a half ago. I want out.

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Speaker 1: Then he went dark. Didn't hear from him, so Sham's

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Speaker 1: Sharania report of the story. Durant met with the owner

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Speaker 1: So over, I got kids, right, teenage kids, And one

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Speaker 1: of the things I have noticed and had to sort

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Speaker 1: on young people because young people generally aren't married, they're

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Speaker 1: a little self absorbed. Young people don't have kids or

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Speaker 1: I mean if Twitter didn't exist, Instagram didn't exist, the

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Speaker 1: constant harping on Kevin Durant about joining a championship team

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Speaker 1: takes the air out of the ball, and Durant increasingly

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Speaker 1: I think it affected him. He was very prickly, more

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Speaker 1: last year, this year, it's a mess. I think he's

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Speaker 1: You know, I always tell him, don't let Twitter produce

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Speaker 1: Seventy eight percent of people are not. It's simply not

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Speaker 1: last five years, there are ten bad teams in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: hard Knocks this year, it's the Detroit Lions, is the

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Speaker 1: the Colts where the team used You remember that last year, right?

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Speaker 1: can be good television. Hard knocks often is, but I

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Speaker 1: I'm making is I think some of this is how

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Speaker 1: people respond to overwhelming fame. So I think like sometimes

424
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Speaker 1: guys or people you know, lean into drugs. With athletes,

425
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: that's tougher because your body is so important, right, So

426
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Speaker 1: then what do you do with this overwhelming fame? And

427
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Speaker 1: I think in Hollywood we see a lot of like,

428
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Speaker 1: none of the stuff Aaron's doing would be considered that

429
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Speaker 1: odd at all if you were a movie star, right,

430
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Speaker 1: do you agree it would be considered really in fact

431
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Speaker 1: of the movie stars, like you know, Will Smith and

432
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Speaker 1: Tom Cruise at different times with the biggest movie stars

433
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Speaker 1: in the world. All of this would be very tame

434
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Speaker 1: from what you know what I mean, I've read their

435
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Speaker 1: different belief structures are right, So I do wonder if

436
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: Aaron almost crossed over through the jeopardy and through the

437
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: different circles he ran in from amazing football player to

438
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: super famous guy who's great at football and in that

439
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: world like it's it. I'm trying to find the right analogy,

440
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: but there are. It's just in different circles, different things

441
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: become acceptable. So you know, I spend a lot of

442
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: time in the poker community, right, and in that world,

443
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: what guys are willing to gamble high stakes of money on.

444
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: In any other world, people would look at it if

445
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh my god, you have a crippling

446
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: gambling problem. You need to go you know what I mean,

447
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: need to go see someone. But within that world, it's

448
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: totally normalized, and it's just like that is just how

449
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: people act. Right, So if you're running in a circle

450
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: of oh, it's totally normal for you to not see

451
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: a traditional doctor and totally normal for you to try

452
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: to have these awakenings, your barrier for injury becomes so

453
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: much shorter. So much lower. Meanwhile, if I if you

454
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Speaker 1: called me and you were like, Nick, next time the

455
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: herd's off, I'm flying to Peru doing Ayawaska, I'd be like,

456
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: col are you okay? Like really, this is what you're doing.

457
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: But if you called me and I was like, dude,

458
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: did it two months ago, it's fucking awesome, Like then

459
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it gives you you feel much

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00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: more comfortable. So if you're around people that have done this,

461
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that that's there. So that's

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Speaker 1: what I think. That's the errand thing. And I think

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Speaker 1: that I even't thought enough about the lack of a

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Speaker 1: spouse and how much that and maybe that is maybe

465
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Speaker 1: the spouse that isn't as famous, you know what I mean,

466
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: brings you down to a degree, you know what I mean,

467
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: makes you I can't think of the word, but normalizes

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Speaker 1: you to a degree. And maybe that's an element of it.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's very clear that Aaron is a

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Speaker 1: different type of cat. There were used to with any

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Speaker 1: pro athlete that I can remember of his stature. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think what women do is they help you accountable.

473
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Speaker 1: I said this the other day on the air. You know,

474
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: half serious. Kevin Durant married, goes to his wife, I'm

475
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: gonna leave Steph Curry, Steve Kerbbob Myers, the best culture

476
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: in the league, best team for Kyrie Irving and that

477
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: mess in Brooklyn. A wife would say, hell, you are

478
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: go by yourself, Go have lunch with drama. Figure it out.

479
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: That's what my wife would do. If if if if

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving was married and he said I'm not going

481
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: to get the vats, his wife would say, get to

482
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: a damn pharmacy. This is a team, I mean, get

483
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: it for our kids. What are you doing? But again, rich,

484
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: single on your phone, on your device, very self indulgent,

485
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: and it's not really a criticism, it's a real Bill

486
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: Simmons talked about this. You get rich and you get older.

487
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: I could point to two people in the media I

488
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: know who have now reached like late fifties, early sixties,

489
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: never married, no kids, no pets. They're odd. They've taken

490
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: weird turns over the last ten years. I think you

491
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: know at least one. I know one of them. I

492
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Speaker 1: know one of them. I'd't argue that guy was odd forever,

493
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: but regardless, he's gotten odder. That's first. Yeah, no, that

494
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: that's a really you know, I think that's a smart point,

495
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Speaker 1: which is and I think the other thing is and

496
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Speaker 1: now I'm just really wild speculation here. But the other

497
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 1: thing is that comes with not just marriage and with

498
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: marriage and kids, is you have so much less time

499
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: that you just don't have as much opportunity to fall

500
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Speaker 1: down rabbit holes and to get into bullshit, even if

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Speaker 1: you want to. Like, I don't know what you did

502
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: this Sunday, Also what I did. Drove three hours to

503
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Speaker 1: Upstate New York to drop my girls off at camp,

504
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: and then drove three hours back. Now on the way back,

505
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: did I stop by a casino? I did, because you

506
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: still find some time to get into some shit. However,

507
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: that's still that's eight hours of my day just gone.

508
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: If I don't have them, do I spend those eight hours?

509
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Speaker 1: I'm like it. Do I wake up in the morning,

510
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, let me see what's going on Twitter?

511
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden is at four hours of

512
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: YouTube videos later, where all of a sudden, I had

513
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: very interesting opinions I didn't hold previously. Maybe you just

514
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: are so much and when you're when you know, for KD,

515
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Speaker 1: you know he's made it very clear, and I give

516
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Speaker 1: him credit for the transparency on it. He wants to

517
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Speaker 1: you know, whoop and he clearly works incredibly hard at

518
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Speaker 1: his craft. But there's only so much basketball you playing

519
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: a day, That's right. He's not a weight room guy,

520
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: so any so what's the rest of his day playing

521
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: video games, hanging out, smoking some weed, screwing around on

522
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Speaker 1: the internet. And that all of a sudden, even if

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Speaker 1: you're playing basketball six hours a day, playing basketball six

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Speaker 1: hours a day, sleep in eight, you got another ten

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Speaker 1: to just you know what I mean, whatever, And it

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Speaker 1: is just it's a very different world when you're busy

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Speaker 1: your real Let's let's now segue to the Patriots, and

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Speaker 1: I think Greg Popovich has fallen into this and Belichick has.

552
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: When you're really successful, success warps even the smartest people.

553
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: I mean to listen to Nick Saban complain about the

554
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: nil because it'll hurt parody in the sport is the

555
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life. He's

556
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Speaker 1: lost his mind on that, right, because you start to

557
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: think empirically your opinion is just right. Because you're beating people,

558
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: you're smarter than people, you continue to dominate people. I

559
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: am better than people, and that's why it's important to

560
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: have people in your life that push back. I think

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Speaker 1: Popovich and Belichick have now bought into their system more

562
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: than they have the reality of their sport, which is

563
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL. We used to think it was a

564
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Speaker 1: fifty fifty proposition star quarterback coach Brady Belichick. It now

565
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: appears to be about a seventy thirty proposition. Like we

566
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: know Andy Reid is brilliant, but you're going to lose

567
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Speaker 1: in the first round and then you get Mahomes and

568
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: you're dominant. Right, So Belichick now is using a special

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Speaker 1: team's coach, a defensive coordinator, and a cornerbacks coach to

570
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Speaker 1: coach's offense. And I think, like Popovich, success has given

571
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Speaker 1: him a belief and success does this to a lot

572
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: of people I've met, is that he's so powerful, so wealthy,

573
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: his legacy is set that nobody will go Bill you've

574
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: lost your mind in an era with a second year

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Speaker 1: quarterback in an offensive pivoting league. He's using a defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator to call plays. It's insane, So of course it's insane.

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Speaker 1: So here's my question. Is it that? My question on

578
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: this is because I think there was a turning point

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Speaker 1: in the Patriots season last year. I think it's very

580
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: clear it was that stupid Buffalo windstorm. Pay they want it,

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Speaker 1: they want it. It was Belichick to me doing something

582
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: very odd that seemed to be against anything I had

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00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: seen him do in his career. He was always about

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Speaker 1: winning this week, not you know, we're onto Cincinnati, not

585
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: worried about anything else, And it felt like that game

586
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: he wanted to win. What he really wanted to do

587
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: was win us certain way. As a giant middle finger

588
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: to everyone who thought he lost his fastball, I'm gonna

589
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: show you that in twenty twenty one, I can win

590
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: a football game without throwing a pass. And they threw three,

591
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: and one of them seemed like Mac Jones audibled into.

592
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 1: And the reason I say it was the pivot point

593
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: is Mac was a different player. After that. They went

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Speaker 1: one and four. The rest of the way, Mac had

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00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: one decent game was against the Jaguars. Every other game

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00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: they lost by double bight, multiple scores, by an average

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00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: of fifteen points, and it seemed like that messed with

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00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: his confidence. But it seemed like Belichick was trying to

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00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: after Brady had won a Super Bowl and all this

600
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: stuff remind everyone, I'm the smartest guy out there. Does

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00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: it feel a little all to you like he's doing

602
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: something similar right here? Like, oh, you think I needed

603
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, Well, how about I don't replace him? And

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Speaker 1: how about what would I bring in? Are two guys

605
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: who used to work for me then they left, they failed.

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00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: They were defense and special teams, and I'm gonna win

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00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: with them, and I don't think it's gonna work. I

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00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: think this is about like proving a point to the

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Speaker 1: world that the part of it that I don't get

610
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: is he doesn't need to prove it. No one argues

611
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: about who the greatest coach ever is with respect to

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00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels and Vince Lombardi and Walsh, everyone just says Belichick.

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00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know what the chip on the shoulder

614
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: where it comes from, but it seems like he's at

615
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: this point coming off his nose to spite his face.

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Speaker 1: Let me, I always think I like to be able

617
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: to see around corners, you know, be like six months

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00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: ahead of a story like this is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: It's fun for me, right. And so there's never been

620
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: a great movie with a bad ending. There isn't any

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Speaker 1: It doesn't exist. There is no great novel with a

622
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: lousy final chapter. So I've said this, if Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: can sustain his health and coaches for seven to eight

624
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: more years, and Belichick never gets over the turbulence, the

625
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: league clearly pivots the offense, and Andy Reid wins two

626
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: to three super Bowls with Mahome, the argument for best

627
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: football coach ever is going to feel a lot like

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00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: Lebron and Michael. Is that Andy Reid got to super

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Speaker 1: Bowls multiple quarterbacks. He won in the AFC, he won

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Speaker 1: in the NFC, he won with different owners. Belichick fired,

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Speaker 1: didn't work, got Brady Brady left didn't work. Is that

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Speaker 1: as the league moves to offense, If and he coaches

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Speaker 1: for eight years, he's going to have eight really good years.

634
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: Just three super bowls that'll give him four. We are

635
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: going to look at that greatest coach ever argument. Andy

636
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: is the single coach who's always given Belichick we'll go

637
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: to headhead meetings. You know, he's already got his number.

638
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: What happens if he goes four and OZ the next

639
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: eight years against him three and oh? Do you think

640
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 1: I'm nuts on that? No? Well, I think that it's

641
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: hard to square with the fact that I'm pretty sure

642
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: you're going to pick the Chiefs to miss the playoffs

643
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: this year. I'm not certain if you've done that yet,

644
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: but I would. I mean, so, I'm not served, but

645
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you're nuts. Here's what I think. I

646
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: think Belichick's obviously miles ahead in the race. I think

647
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 1: Bill needs to make the race unwinnable for any other

648
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: current coach one more good playoff run. I don't think

649
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: he needs to win a Super Bowl. I think though,

650
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: if he were to make the AFC Championship Game in

651
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: the next four years, I think that is that's enough

652
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: to make it to where he is two laps ahead

653
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: of the field and he does impenetrable because I don't

654
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: think Mac Jones is that good. I think Mac Jones

655
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: is fine. I think he is I think his ceiling

656
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: is Ryan Tannehill. I think it's like, hey, can you

657
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 1: be that guy? And I think everyone knew that, and

658
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: you know, my buddy Kevin Wilds on the show gets

659
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: so mad. He's like, why do you pick all these

660
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: second year quarterbacks to take a leap and not mac Jones.

661
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: It's because the same reason he went fifteenth in the draft,

662
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: because everyone knew he was the most pro ready but

663
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,479
Speaker 1: also thought he had the smallest room for improvement. And

664
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't like anything the Patriots dumb, but set that aside.

665
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: If he can get to a conference championship game in

666
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: this conference with Josh Allen and Mahomes and Herbert and

667
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: Burrow and Lamar and all that, that would be like

668
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: the ultimate mic drop moment. But the flip side of

669
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: that is Belichick coaches four more years and doesn't make

670
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Then it's one of those where I don't

671
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: believe in legacies going backwards, but it certainly hurts because

672
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: of what Brady's done and because they like to If

673
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: he keeps going and the team and it seems like

674
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: the game has passed him by, that's not gonna be

675
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: great again. I'd love to speak it into existence for Andy,

676
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: and you know I'm not account the rings guy. So

677
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't think Andy's got to win six rings to

678
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 1: be the greatest coach ever. But your point on Andy

679
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: going to four straight NFC Championship games with Donovan McNabb

680
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: and then going hosting four straight with Patrick Mahomes, it's

681
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: pretty damn impressive. Is and one other thing as great

682
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: as Mahomes is, and you obviously know what great I

683
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: think he is. It's not like mahomes profile coming out

684
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: of college is Peyton Manning. It's not like people are like, oh,

685
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: suck for Luck. Though the Chiefs won the line. He

686
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: was the third quarterback taking his own just second third

687
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: quarterback taking his own draft, you know what I mean.

688
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: He's the tenth pick. And so it's not like when

689
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: he got there people are like, oh, dynasty now locked in.

690
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: Nobody thought that. And then except that the people who

691
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: were practicing with him, we were comparing him to Brett

692
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: Farve after a month, and so yeah, that is interesting.

693
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: I like to take I do wonder you said it,

694
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: and you said it kindly. I wonder how much longer

695
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: and he's gonna coach? You said it, health holds up,

696
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: Like you know, he's added some tough personal tragedies obviously,

697
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: but if he's I would imagine he's having more fun

698
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: now than he's ever had in his career. And unlike Belichick,

699
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: he hasn't dealt with this coaching staff turnover. That's the

700
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: big thing that he helps the Chiefs this year. Josh

701
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: down lost Brian Dable, you know what I mean? The Patriots,

702
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: who I don't think are a contender though they lost

703
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: people we've talked about. The Broncos are gonna be this

704
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: great team. It's a new head coach. We'll see if

705
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: he's any good. A lot of the Ravens lost their

706
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. No one will hire a poor eric the enemy,

707
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: and so the Chiefs has keep their coordinators every year,

708
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: which that continuity's super helpful. Hold On, I saw this,

709
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: You bet your son ten thousand dollars. Well, that's a

710
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: little misleader. Hold On that he could get to five

711
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: hundred thousand Twitter followers before backwards, that he could get

712
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: to five thousand before I got to five hundred thousand.

713
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: What's that like? As a dad? That was that the

714
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: worst bet of your life? You lost ten thousand dollars

715
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: the moment. So here's let me set it up So

716
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: he was at like thirty five hundred and I was

717
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: at four hundred and ninety five thousand, and I was like,

718
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: do you think you're gonna get to five thousand four?

719
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: I get to five hundred thousand, and he's like, oh yeah,

720
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: And I was just doing the math in my head.

721
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's taken you. You need to add fifth year,

722
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: thirty six hundred, you need to add thirteen hundred, you

723
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: need to add fifty percent more to what you have.

724
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: I need to add one percent more to what I have?

725
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: Is a dumb bet by you, buddy, He's like no.

726
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll give you a ten to one.

727
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 1: I was like, you picked the amount, and I thought

728
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna pick like one hundred bucks, two hundred bucks.

729
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: But he's got this new good gig with Fox. He's

730
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: finally making actual money, he's saving money. So he's like,

731
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: I'll bet a thousand dollars. It's like, you're going to

732
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: bet a thousand dollars And the moment he said it

733
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: was such confidence. I was like, I think I screwed

734
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: up here. And then my own podcast worked against me

735
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: because they put out that clip and there's and all

736
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: of a sudden, My followers were going down. People were

737
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: unfollowing me to follow him, to make sure. I mean

738
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: he got there in sixteen hours. I mean, this is

739
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. I'm I'm still at four hundred ninety

740
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: five thousand, like I'm still trying to get back to

741
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: where I was. It was a listen it was a

742
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: poor wager. However, I'm gonna say this in case he's listening. However,

743
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: there was an element of I'm not saying I'm I

744
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: was free rolling him. However, here in the next few months,

745
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna move to Los Angeles. It's his plan. And

746
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: while he does have a good job and he has

747
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: been saving money, my guess is for him to successfully

748
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: move to Los Angeles, I'm probably gonna have to help

749
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: a little bit. So I figured that ten was going

750
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: his way. It's one time or another. Might as well

751
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: free roll him in this bet. If he wins, he

752
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: feels great. If he loses, it's a lesson. Don't gamble,

753
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, do as your father says, not as he

754
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: does in other news. But what do you want to

755
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: rent out your poolhouse? No? Well, what's funny about Los

756
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: Angeles is my daughter lives in West Hollywood and it's

757
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:30,959
Speaker 1: egregiously expensive. It's a really good apartment town though, that's

758
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: what I'll say about it. It's a it's a tremendous

759
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: apartment town all over town, and they're competitive. You have

760
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: to be semi competitive because you know these people they

761
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: need tenants. But the thing about Los Angeles is is

762
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: that the economy is dynamic. So we're usually the last

763
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: indoor recession and the first out. But between the tax

764
00:44:54,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: rate and how long you're in your car with gas prices,

765
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: my daughter's like, Dad, I'm not really a spender. I'm

766
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: just in my car a lot. Like, there's a lot

767
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: of cities. Chicago's one. You can live downtown, in worktowntown.

768
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: There's a lot of it. In New York, live downtown, workdowntown, Philadelphia.

769
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: It's not really Los Angeles. So what your son's going

770
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: to find out is um gas. You know how in

771
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: most cities you're like transportation and rent is seventy percent

772
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: of your monthly thing, throwing gash. You'll be eating Chick

773
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: fil a for dinner four nights. Yeah, oh yeah, no, no, right,

774
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: that's the thing. However, it's here's the other thing, and

775
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: this is my like what I would say to not

776
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: that I'm I trying not to get parenting advice, but

777
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: I'm in a unique position because I've I'm very young

778
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: to have raised kids as old as I raised and

779
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: everyone there is no matter what your own financial situation is.

780
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: I think the single best thing to do for your

781
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: kids is post college. Let them go through the while

782
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: you're there is a true safety net if things really

783
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: go sideways. But you know how someone figures out how

784
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: do I get my power turned back on? Having that

785
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: shit turned off and realizing I gotta figure this out

786
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: in the next eight hours or I gotta get power.

787
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: How do I register a car? You know how you

788
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: figured the only way you actually learn how to do

789
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: that once you get about your third ticket for not

790
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: having your car registered and you say, I have to

791
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: get a register or they're going to tow it away.

792
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: And so for my kid, he wasn't living with me

793
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: during the pandemic, and he was out in Kansas City,

794
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: where you know we're from, living on his own, working

795
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: on his own, figuring everything out. And in those fifteen

796
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: months that he was there, it was it was like

797
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: he a in a positive way eight years you know

798
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: what I mean? It was like when it because he

799
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: was on his own every day, just figured like, I've

800
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: got to figure things out. And then once you do that,

801
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: I feel like you as a person have a different

802
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: confidence about yourself where you're like, you know what, I

803
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: can't if you said eat chick fil like it got

804
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, if it comes to it, I can eat

805
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: rum and every night and I'll be okay. I can

806
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: find a place I can live, i can sleep on

807
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: a couch for a month while I figure it out,

808
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: and I'll be okay. You've got to go through that

809
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: in order to know you can go through that, and

810
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: once you do that, yours to me a lot more fearless.

811
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, I'll go try this, I'll go do that.

812
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, I think it's a great So the

813
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: point there is, even if you have millions of millions

814
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: of dollars, I think I think you should and you

815
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: plan to give it to your kids one day, I

816
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: think you shouldn't write when they get out of school,

817
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: or I think they should go through a period of

818
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: figuring that shit out a little bit on their own

819
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: and they will feel better about Yeah. I mean, the

820
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: one thing my X and I strongly agree on is travel.

821
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: We want our kids to have to go through airports

822
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: by themselves. We sent our daughter to Cape Town, South

823
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: Africa by herself. I remember that that was a couple

824
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: of years ago, right, yea, and learn to travel, and

825
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: it's it's been great. Put our kids on planes by

826
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: the time they're fifteen sixteen, figure it out. And you know,

827
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm a good parent, but the

828
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: one thing I learned in my life first job out

829
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: of college, I went to Vegas by myself and made

830
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes, but I'm gonna tell you something.

831
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: It toughened my skin. And by the time I got

832
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: to ESPN in my late thirties, I saw a lot

833
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: of these Connecticut kids who had never been west of Denver,

834
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: and they had always traveled with their parents, and they

835
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: grew up in Philadelphia and they worked at ESPN. It

836
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: was the only they'd ever had and I could feel it.

837
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: I was much more resilient to bad management, bad decisions,

838
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: bad days, bad segments that I think all I know

839
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: about parenting is put your kids while you're alive in

840
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: really challenging situations and they grow a little bit of

841
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: a force field. They are empowered. That's about all I

842
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: know about because I've seen it now with all of

843
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: my kids. They're empowered and it listened. I am speaking from, like,

844
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Speaker 1: you know, an obvious place of privilege. It obviously is

845
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: good to know if things do really go sideways, you

846
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: are there to help them and you pick them up.

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Speaker 1: But I just I I look, so I had a

848
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Speaker 1: similar I you know, after college, I went to Kansas City,

849
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Speaker 1: which is where I'm from, but I didn't you know,

850
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Speaker 1: my mom didn't live there anymore, and I my dad

851
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: and I have a great relationship, but it was never

852
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Speaker 1: even on the board that I was going to go

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Speaker 1: live with him. I just it's like, I'm going to

854
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Speaker 1: find a terrible apartment with a friend from high school.

855
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: We're going to live together while you know what I mean,

856
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: while I try to figure out this radio thing and

857
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: that experience. I still drawn it. I still to this

858
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Speaker 1: day drawn it. And I think back to some of

859
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: my closest friends that I went to high school with

860
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: that graduated when I did that. After college really just

861
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: kind of floated for like four or five years, like

862
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: went to one version of graduate school, and they that's

863
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: a big thing amongst people my age was getting graduate

864
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: degrees that I don't think they wanted, but they knew

865
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Speaker 1: as long as they were in school their parents bankrolled everything,

866
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Speaker 1: and so they it was a big thing of Like,

867
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Speaker 1: I have so many friends that started out in law

868
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Speaker 1: school and then briefly went to medical school. I'm like,

869
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Speaker 1: you're twenty seven. You've been in school your whole life,

870
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Speaker 1: and you have the same degrees I have because you

871
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: just keep leaving, which is just the underlie. So I

872
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: think there's an element of just going out to your

873
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: stuff out, and I think people can figure out as

874
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: hell of a lot more than they think they can

875
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: when they go do it. Yeah, my daughter says she

876
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: wants to get a master's and I said to her,

877
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: a master's in what? And then she kind of smiled,

878
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: and I thought, yeah, you just want two more years

879
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: of that visa card. Exactly. I've listened. I'm not I'm

880
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: not trying to. I wasn't trying. I didn't know that

881
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: was the case. I'm gonna trying to down talk your

882
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: daughter at all. And by the way, it's not a

883
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: bad gig, think Colin Coward visa cards to visa card,

884
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: pretty high limit. I don't blame her live in La

885
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: go to USC or uc or go to USC. Yeah,

886
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: let me do it. I get it. But the that

887
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: is uh, I think that is a thing of I

888
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: could start life, or I could continue this whole. Like

889
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to where no one can tell me

890
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: what to do. But I'm young enough to where no

891
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: one judges me for spending other people's money. Let's ride

892
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: that train as long as I can. It's not a

893
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: bad gig. It's not if you can get it, that's right.

894
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: What do you? What do you? What? Are you going

895
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: to get your masters in philosophy? I like to think, Yeah,

896
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: she told me what she was thinking about her Matt

897
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: getting her masters in and it was environmental psychology. And

898
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, so you'll talk to trees. Okay, that's gotta

899
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: not be what it is. You have to be misrepresenting

900
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: what environmental psychology is. It can't be the psychology of

901
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: the environment. I think you're simplifying it wrong. I was.

902
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: I was simplifying it to win the argument. But I said,

903
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: I ain't pay for you to talk to shrubs, so

904
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: you got to find a different one. It's unbelievable, Dan,

905
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: I've thought long and hard about this need to get

906
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: a masters. What's it gonna be? Art history? I just

907
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: I really think that's I really think that's what the

908
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: career is gonna be. Really, what are you gonna do

909
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: well after school? I really think the only way to

910
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: really take advantage of the degree is to tour Europe.

911
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: I mean to see the artists in real time. I mean,

912
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: you keep that going, dude twenty seven, I like it.

913
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: I like that idea. Nick Wright, Azza's buddy money, You're

914
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Speaker 1: the best. By the way, Speaking of travel, I have

915
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Speaker 1: to tell you real quick before I go Friday, I

916
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: go to Italy. So it didn't like in a Europe

917
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Speaker 1: Florence is the great walking city. I thought Sienna was

918
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: the prettiest city the coast. We didn't get to. Rome

919
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: is a big city, wildly frenetic, hot and crowded. But

920
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: I loved it. And the people are wonderful. They live

921
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: longer than us despite the fact they smoke, do not

922
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: work out. Yeah, but what you know what's interesting about drinking?

923
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: Italian women do not like their men to drink. Very

924
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: interesting at all. Well, no a glass of wine with dinner.

925
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: I was told this by two different friends in Italy.

926
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Speaker 1: It has looked down upon the Americans go to Italy

927
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Speaker 1: to drink. Italians don't drink as much as you think.

928
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Speaker 1: They're very proud of their wine. They're not partiers. They

929
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: live a great life. They walk more than us, they

930
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: enjoy life more, they sleep more, they smoke more, they

931
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: exercise less, but they live longer. But I think there's

932
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: this fable, this belief, this mythology. Oh, Italians are all drunk,

933
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: stumbling down. Never saw one example in eight days in Italy.

934
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: Did not see a single Italian drunk. They have a

935
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: glass of wine, but they love to be together. I

936
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: saw now they drink espressos way later into the evening

937
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: than Americans do. Like we cut it off at four, right,

938
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: It's like you can't have an espresso it's ten o'clock

939
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: at night. It's a smoke, it's an espresso. But I

940
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: think there is a mythology about the amount of partying

941
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: and drinking. It's just I did not see it in

942
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Speaker 1: eight days. Well, I can't wait. I'm Italian. I'm a

943
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: half Italian. I've been once when I was a teen,

944
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Speaker 1: visiting my sister who was studying abroad. As there for

945
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Speaker 1: two days, so that doesn't even count. You know, so

946
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Speaker 1: I've basically never been there and this will You'll love this.

947
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: I am taking to Rome and then elsewhere, but Romes

948
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: that where we're landing. My wife, my wife's best friend,

949
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: who is the lady I told you about that's a

950
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: huge fan of yours. Yeah, my mom and my wife's

951
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: grandparents who are ninety two and eighty nine, who we

952
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: are the people we took to Barcelona with us two

953
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: years ago. So so all six of us are doing

954
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: Italy on Friday for ten days and I can't wait.

955
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: Oh it'll be I can't We're gonna have so much fun. Oh,

956
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna be I already Dolan is for your people.

957
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: Are people are watching on YouTube? This is my This

958
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: is everything I have planned. I'm such a nerd. I

959
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: wrote it all down, all every everywhere. I want to

960
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: eat everything. I want to see all all the things.

961
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: I have planned it all. I got it all ready

962
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: to go. I can't wait. It's gonna be so fucking great, Bro,

963
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: it's gonna look great. I'm gonna call you from there.

964
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: I might call you know what, I might call into

965
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: the herd. If you do call in half in the bag.

966
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: You're saying, I'm not supposed to drink well, I mean Italy.

967
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be drinking in Italy, buddy, you tell you

968
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Speaker 1: that much. Thank you the Americans due the Italians day

969
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: you can see it. Thank you for having me on.

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00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:44,839
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