1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Kenny Florian. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: I fucking love him. 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him. 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 4: Let's hear that both the next job Brett Fierce hun out. 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 5: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 5: bullshit artists. 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 6: I don't know why the ken flow commentary gets me 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 6: so fired it up, fired up. It's not because he's 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 6: my friend. Every time I hear it. Every time I 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 6: hear the ken Flow commentary gets me fired up. Good 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 6: way to start the show. It's Monday, February twenty second, 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 6: twenty twenty one. Didn't screw up the date this week, folks. 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 6: It's episode two eighty nine of the Anakin Florian Podcast, 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 6: and I want to hear from the audio folks this 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 6: week because we have new microphones. If you're watching on 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 6: the video side, you know that by now mine's attached 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 6: to a big black arm. Makes me feel like I'm 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 6: in a radio studio. But if you're somebody who exclusively 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 6: ingests this podcast in audio form, can flow. I want 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 6: to hear from those people because if this audio isn't good, 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 6: I'm gonna have a panic attack. I think because we've 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 6: tried to put ourselves in a position to succeed. 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: How you doing, kid, I'm doing well. Man. Moving on 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: sounds great, dude, he said, Yeah, these new mics are 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: killing man. I'm excited. I've been really bringing the show down. 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: To be honest, it's been to I fault, guys. I 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: need to just come out and say that the audio 30 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: issues have been on my side. I've had some. I've 31 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: had some crappy audio, so but not anymore. 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 7: That's right. 33 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 6: Audio is good. 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, working on everything. 35 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 6: Try to bring you this fine podcast in the mixed 36 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 6: martial arts space, and what a weekend it was. We're 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 6: going to recap lads, Lewis and of course we will 38 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 6: have predictions for you for UFC Fight Night Rosen Strike 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 6: Versus Gone, which beckons Saturday night from the UFC Apex 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 6: in Las Vegas. But let us get to the recap 41 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 6: here in headlines, if you're betting big favorites and mixed 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 6: martial arts, you are not doing all that well. Now, 43 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 6: this happened to be the biggest upset in the UFC 44 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 6: main events since UFC one ninety nine, when Michael bisbeing 45 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 6: upset Luke rock Hold in twenty sixteen that Curtis VSPN 46 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 6: stats and information. But Derek Lewis a plus three point 47 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 6: fifty underdog north of plus four hundred to win by 48 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 6: knockout would have been the way to bet the fight, 49 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 6: probably if you were on the Lewis side. But how 50 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 6: about the black Beast can flow over Curtis Blades Round 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 6: two KO the uppercut was a no doubter. Couple follow 52 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 6: up shots for good measure your thoughts on the heavyweight 53 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 6: main event over the weekend. 54 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: Man, You know, the latter part of that first round 55 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: was not going well for Derek Lewis. Yeah, I kind 56 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: of was very concerned to said, he's just not looking right. 57 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: It seems like Curtis Blades is really putting it on 58 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: them with the striking. Ris was doing a good job 59 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: of backing up in the beginning, and he was kind 60 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: of making sure that he was close to the fence, 61 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: I think because if he did get taken down, it 62 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: would be a little bit easier for him to scramble 63 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: and not have Blades on his back. A lot of 64 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: fighters like to do that. But you know, I think 65 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 2: the patients ended up paying off in that second round. 66 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: And this is a guy man. It doesn't matter what 67 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: he hits you with. It doesn't matter when he hits you, 68 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter really where he hits you. He's 69 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: going to hurt you. And I mean, is there a 70 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: guy who's more prolific as a knockout artist than Derek Lewis. 71 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: He hit him with that uppercut and froze him right 72 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: on the button, like it was. You rarely see that. 73 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: Usually you see, you know, the scrambling of the brain, 74 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 2: the guy drops and you know he's kind of out 75 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: of it, or you see a guy drop then he 76 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: goes out. It took one shot, he landed it and 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: it just put his lights out immediately, froze him. Unbelievable. 78 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 6: He didn't even catch him clean. And if listened to 79 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 6: what Derek Lewis had to say, he said, I didn't 80 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 6: feel get in the back, I didn't feel good in 81 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 6: the inspection zone. I didn't feel good in round one. 82 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 6: And our good buddy Bruce Marshall listens to the Aic 83 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 6: and Floring podcast, he tweeted at me, thank god he 84 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 6: was flat lit and I could have killed someone otherwise. 85 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 6: Love that dude consistently getting better more committed to his craft. 86 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 6: A lot of good things in that tweet right there, 87 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 6: but I'm telling you, thank god he was a little 88 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 6: bit flat or we might be talking about a fatality, 89 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 6: you know, serious dude, and the power. So no man 90 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 6: in UFC history has more knockouts. He's tied with et 91 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 6: belfore now with twelve. And in terms of the commitment 92 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 6: to the craft Ken Flow, he was in the best 93 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 6: shape of his life. I mean, did you see this 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 6: man on the scale? I mean, the body fat percentage 95 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 6: has gone down. And I think having back to back 96 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 6: training camps for this type of specialist and I don't 97 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 6: take I shouldn't call Curtis Blades a specialist, I guess, 98 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 6: but to have back to back training camps for Blades 99 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 6: and to be in this type of physical condition was 100 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 6: I think what it was going to take to spring 101 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 6: this type of upset. So all hail the Black Beast moment. 102 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: Look what Blades has done to guys like Volkoff and 103 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: Junior Dosanto's and a lot of guys. You know, his 104 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: ability to take you down and beat you up and 105 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 2: control you and you know, outstrike you on the feet. 106 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it's amazing what he's done, and Derek Lewis 107 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: just went out there and took a way all of 108 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: that momentum from him, and it's an extremely impressive win 109 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: for Derek Lewis. But yeah, I agree with you. He 110 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: looked like he was in tremendous shape. Derek is a 111 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: guy who's been dealing with back injuries. And as a 112 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: guy who's dealt with back injuries over the course of 113 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: my career and still do, it's awful. You're not able 114 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: to train like you like you used to. You can't 115 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,559 Speaker 2: put in, you know, the two or three sessions. Maybe 116 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: you get, you know, four or five sessions a week, 117 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: you know, and when you're able to double that up 118 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: or triple that up or whatever that may be, you 119 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: know it's gonna pay off. You're gonna be better, you're 120 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: gonna be more skillful, you're gonna look like you're in 121 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: better shape. And Derek Lewis certainly looked like he was, 122 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: and I hope it's because physically he's healthier. 123 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 6: So that Daniel Cormier went over, Derek Lewis continues to 124 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 6: age well. And when we talk about Curtis Blades and 125 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 6: the Historic Takedown's most decorated Takedown, artist in UFC heavyweight 126 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 6: history still hasn't been able to fight for the title 127 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 6: because these guys with real power just seemed to find 128 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 6: that button against him, whether it's Francis and Ghano Time's 129 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 6: two or Derek Lewis over the weekend. So on the 130 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 6: Curtis Blade side, this is a massive disappointment in terms 131 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 6: of the championship trajectory. Cody Donovan and the whole team 132 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 6: I know is heartbroken. But what are your thoughts on 133 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 6: on Curtis Blades and sort of where he goes from here. 134 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: It's tough. You know, what he has going for him 135 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: in some ways is that, you know, the heavyweight division 136 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: isn't as deep as it used to be, and he 137 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: definitely has that potential, and he has some great wins 138 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: over some good guys, so I don't think it's gonna 139 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: take you know, a whole lot of wins for him 140 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: to get right back in there. However, he does need 141 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: to make the proper adjustments and he needs to learn 142 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: from this uh as far as not putting him not 143 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: putting himself in danger when he shoots in like that. 144 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: You know, GSP was extremely successful with his takedowns because 145 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: he always put his head on the outside of the knee, 146 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: so instead of going for your traditional double leg takedown, 147 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: which is more straight on, he had his head off 148 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: the center line, you know, so he'd hit more of 149 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: a high crotch style takedown with his head on the 150 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: outside of his opponent's hit, and that puts him off 151 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: the center line from things like knees and uppercuts and 152 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: you know, hooks. And I think that's something that perhaps 153 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: Churtis Blade should look into, you know, considering he's a 154 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: big time takedown guy. So but you know, this was 155 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: a devastating one. And more importantly, he's got to take 156 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: some time off. This was a devastating knockout, man, and 157 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: when you're seeing guys get put out like that, and 158 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: of course this is the headweight division we're talking about, 159 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 2: but we're also talking about Derek loose in his power. 160 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: So he's got to take some time off, you know, 161 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: don't do any sparring for a little while, get his 162 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: head right, get his body right, and then come back 163 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: and work on his skills. But he's still a good fighter. 164 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: He just you know, he made a mistake and he 165 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: got caught by a very dangerous man in terms of 166 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: the two, not three follow up shots landed by Derek Lewis. 167 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 6: Right, you know what my thesis statement is on this, 168 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 6: and I know people aren't gonna like it, but my 169 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 6: thesis statement is super necessary in a lot of respects 170 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 6: because I have seen too many instances in which a 171 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 6: referee either jolts in phantom trying to stop the fight, 172 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 6: maybe a referee like Dan murgleiaut. I believe when Check 173 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 6: Kongo fought Pat Berry actually makes contact with the athlete 174 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 6: and then the fight continues. I would like to see 175 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 6: athletes show some restraint when clearly their opponent is removed 176 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 6: from consciousness, as was the case here. But Ken flow, 177 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 6: you gotta go until the referee pulls you off. Is 178 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 6: that not the way you guys are instructed in the back. 179 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: That's the thing. Now, I want to ask your opinion 180 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: on this job because again I didn't hear any of 181 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: the interviews or if there was a press conference where 182 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: he was asked about this. But after the fight, Derek 183 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 2: Lewis said, that's Herb Dean's fault. That's Herb Dean's fault. 184 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: Now is he saying that because Herbdan didn't stop it 185 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: in time, or is he saying it because of some 186 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: other reason, because I agree with you. As a fighter, 187 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: our job is to fight. Our job isn't to determine 188 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: if the fighter is out or not. So we got 189 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: to keep going until the fighters have stopped. I've learned 190 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: that from jiu jitsu tournaments or from fights where you 191 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: stopped too early and the guy goes, I didn't tap. 192 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: What do you talking? I didn't tap, you know, or 193 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: I'm still fight so you have to go into The 194 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: referee goes, so what was that in reference to? Did 195 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: he address that? 196 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 6: Or yes? 197 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: So okay? 198 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 6: And it's interesting because Marina Hadriguez almost had a knockout 199 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 6: taken away against that spot not all that long ago. 200 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 6: You got to close the fucking show. And if I'm 201 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 6: a fighter, I can assure you that I probably would 202 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 6: have gotten myself in trouble going overboard, because you have 203 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 6: to literally get pulled off by the referee to make 204 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 6: sure you win the fight. So there were a couple 205 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 6: instances early on in this fight where Herbdan rather sternly 206 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 6: warned Derek Lewis and Curtis blades but for extended fingers, right, okay, right, 207 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 6: So maybe there was an axe to grind there, but no, 208 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 6: I think Derek Lewis's point is that Herbdan, in his 209 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 6: mind needs to close the distance faster, especially in the 210 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 6: twenty five foot octagon, maybe be closer to prevent those 211 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 6: follow up shots. But I think Herbdan's stylistically likes to 212 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 6: give you every benefit of it, every doubt. He is 213 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 6: a fighter that leans towards a later stoppage as opposed 214 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 6: to a premature one. So I don't know it's disappointed 215 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 6: that Curtis Blades had to take the extra shot. We 216 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 6: all know historically those are the ones that can often 217 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 6: be the most damaging. But I have absolutely no ill 218 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 6: will for Derek Lewis, and I even take it a 219 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 6: step further. Got to make sure as the athlete that 220 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 6: you close the show and deal with the consequences there after. 221 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: I hate to say it, Well that's the thing. Here's 222 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: the deal. If you don't and you don't make sure 223 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: that your opponent is out after landing that shot and 224 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 2: they come back to consciousness and they come back to 225 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: hurt you or knock you out or beat you, that 226 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: would be devastating. Right, So again, you have to make 227 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: sure the job is done and as a fighter you fight, 228 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: it's the referees job to stop the fight, and you know, yes, 229 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: you don't like to see those kind of shots. But honestly, 230 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: I don't think this was Herbdean's best night, right, And 231 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: you know, Herbdean has done a great job over the years, 232 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: but he has made some mistakes, and when you're made 233 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: make mistakes as a referee, unfortunately it's at the cost 234 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: of the fighters and the fighter's safety. And I don't 235 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: think he did a great job with the Olynic fight. 236 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 2: I don't think he did a great job here. I'm 237 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: not saying it's an easy job. I definitely am not 238 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 2: volunteering my ass to do that, but it wasn't a 239 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: great night for him. 240 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 6: So Derek Lewis, Francis and Ghanu, Anthony Rumble, Johnson, a 241 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 6: lot of other names. I'm sure you could inject into 242 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 6: the mix. When you talk about the biggest power strikers 243 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 6: or power punchers, I guess we're talking about hands in 244 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 6: a lot of respects here in UFC history. What do 245 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 6: you think would happen if Derek Lewis and Francis and 246 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 6: Gan who fought again? If you didn't see the first fight, 247 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 6: you didn't miss a whole lot. It still holds up 248 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 6: as this great outlier where there was inaction and hesitancy 249 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 6: on both sides. What do you think would happen again? 250 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 6: I think it would be a one round fight. Somebody's 251 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 6: twitching on the canvas. 252 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: I remember watching that fight live and just scratching my head, 253 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: going what is this. I think I had tweeted right 254 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: before the fight, like get ready for fireworks. There's no 255 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: way this one goes the distance. 256 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 7: You know. 257 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: Of course, it was one of the worst heavyweight fights 258 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: of all time, but I don't think that happens this 259 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: time around. I really don't, and I think, listen, both 260 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: of those guys are capable of ending the fight in 261 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 2: an instant with any part of their body, and I 262 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: would love to see it. I think it's a fight 263 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: that we will see hopefully. But yeah, I think also 264 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: for both those guys, they want to erase that. You know, 265 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: I think they had so much respect for each other's 266 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: power that both weren't really willing to get in there. 267 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: But I think things would change if they it did 268 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: it a second time. 269 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 6: I'd love to hear the conversation. If Dana White calls 270 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 6: Derek Lewis, and it's like, all right, man, I'm gonna 271 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 6: put you guys together again. This time gonna be for 272 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 6: the belt. Potentially, what's gonna happen get some sort of 273 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 6: guarantee from those guys that they're going to get after it. 274 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 6: But I bring it up in the context of the 275 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 6: UFC's Heavyweight division belt will be on the line March 276 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 6: twenty seven, Steepe in defense against the number one contender, 277 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 6: the aforementioned Francis and Gona, Curtis Bladz Too, Jarzenio Rosenstrike 278 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 6: three and Derek Lewis four. So Derek Lewis is going 279 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 6: to move into that number two slot in all likelihood. 280 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 6: We have a main event this weekend between third ranked 281 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 6: rosen Strike and seventh ranks seedle Gone. So for the 282 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 6: black piece, it's right there. And obviously the circumstances surrounding 283 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 6: his first championship opportunity against Daniel Cormier were less than ideal, 284 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 6: So no overstating this win in terms of what it means. 285 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 6: Derek Lewis's next fight could very well be for the 286 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 6: UFC heavyweight title. 287 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 2: It's wild. It's great to see because you know, we 288 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: saw him when he had his first fight in the UFC, 289 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: to see how far he's come and how he looks now. 290 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: It's great to see a guy like Derek Lewis get 291 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: close to that opportunity. And yeah, his next fight might 292 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: might just be for the belt and it might be 293 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: against Inganu. So I love it. The guy really has 294 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: positioned him an extremely positioned himself extremely well. 295 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 6: So I remember when he made his UFC debut against 296 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 6: Jack May in twenty fourteen on Fox and then I 297 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 6: believe you and I called his second uf HE fight 298 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 6: against Guto and a Cench, and I remember saying something 299 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 6: like this, this throwback, break your face open type of power. 300 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 6: I mean, it's scary stuff when Derek Lewis is in there. 301 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 7: It really is. 302 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 6: To Bruce Marshall's point earlier. So we'll see where Curtis 303 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 6: Blades goes from here. But a huge weekend for Derek Lewis. 304 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 6: Nice to see him get the bonus and his record 305 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 6: tying twelfth UFC knockout. All right, A lot to unpack. 306 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 6: In the co main event, Yana Kunitskaya and Kaitlyn Vieeda 307 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 6: unanimous decision for Yana Kunitskaya. There were a lot of 308 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 6: people who thought Kaitlyn Vieeda won this fight. God did 309 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 6: I love those elbows late from Yanda Kunitskaya. I love 310 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 6: her maximization of the final twenty five or so seconds 311 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 6: of this contest, and in a close fight that was 312 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 6: one one going into the third. For me, that type 313 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 6: of damage was enough to give Kunitskaya the round and 314 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 6: there by the fight. I know that's a dissenting opinion, 315 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 6: but overall your thoughts on the co main event and 316 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 6: a big win for the Russian Yana Kunitskaya. 317 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: I certainly wasn't watching to score, but I will say this, 318 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: it was close, and I think that what a lot 319 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: of people are looking for judges, of course, especially, is 320 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: a certain attitude from the fighter. Right If I'm going 321 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: out there to score points and my opponent is out 322 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: there to kind of kill me, and every time they 323 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to do so, that's gonna look way 324 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: better than the guy who's out there trying to outpoint 325 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: the other one. And I think for Kaitlyn Vieira, she 326 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: was trying more to kind of score points and kind 327 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: of get certain position and do things here. But Kanitski, Kanitsky, Yeah, 328 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: Ayana was really trying to hurt her opponent, and and 329 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: you saw it in the form of cuts and blood 330 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: and you know, bruising, and she was going forward and 331 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: I think that looked more impressive to the judges, and 332 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: especially if you're if you kind of have that attitude 333 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: throughout the fight, like fighting to the last day, second 334 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: of that round, of every round, that counts for something. 335 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: And I think that's why she got the decision. 336 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 6: A lot of weird circumstances surrounding this event overall. You 337 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 6: had Tracar close and Luis Peignon able to fight because 338 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 6: of one of closest cornerman testing positive for COVID nineteen 339 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 6: just a few hours before the event. You had Chaz 340 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 6: Skelly in the octagon ready to go, Jamal Amerzon able 341 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 6: to make the walk because of backspasms. You had four 342 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 6: athletes missing weight. Kalyn Vida miss weight Halfayel Alvez missed 343 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 6: weight for lightweight and was competing at featherweight Kenny. It 344 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 6: was the worst weight miss in UFC history. And you 345 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 6: know who I'm thinking about when this is happening. I'm 346 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 6: thinking about Ken Flow win and against Diego Noonez at 347 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 6: forty six and Ken Flow actually making forty five for 348 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 6: Jose Aldo without holding onto a towel or nothing. I mean, 349 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 6: this dude missed lightweight competing at one hundred and forty 350 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 6: five pounds. 351 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like he did he not get 352 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: the memo? Did he he think he was competing in 353 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: a different weight class. That's just like you didn't try, right, Like, 354 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: come on, bro, you didn't try? Like what's going on? 355 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 6: That's a just a terrible look. And if I was 356 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 6: sitting octagon side and Chas Kelly was there, I don't 357 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 6: know what I would have done. Man, you gotta feel 358 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 6: awful for that guy. Hopefully he got his wind. 359 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 2: Bonus. 360 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 6: I almost would have offered to go in there and fight. 361 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 6: The guy can just submit me in ten seconds? 362 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: Seriously, Well, there's nothing worse, man. I mean, you're out there, 363 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: You're literally out there, ready to fight. Your mind has 364 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: been made up, you know. You see the announcer in there, 365 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: the referees in there, everything's ready to go, and you're 366 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: you're waiting around it. Wait, I'm not fighting? Are you 367 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: kidding me? 368 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 5: Right now? 369 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: That's awful? But I will say this as a guy 370 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: again who has a bad back, It's unlike anything else. 371 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: You know, if you have a if you have a 372 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: sore ankle, if you have a bad knee, if you're 373 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: you're even your neck or your shoulder, something's messed up. 374 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: You can kind of get you know, you can get 375 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: through it. But when your back goes out like you live, 376 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: it feels like someone stuck a kitchen knife in your 377 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: back and there's just no getting them off the floor. 378 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: And I think that's what happened. So I think if 379 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: he was physically able to move and walk himself to 380 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: the octagon, I would assume he probably would have would 381 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: have done it. But when you have a back injury 382 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: like that and it's spasing him spasing it up, it 383 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: just there's nothing you could do. 384 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 6: Man completely debilitating. Yeah, oh but man for Chas Kelly. 385 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 6: And then he grabs a microphone at the postfight press 386 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 6: conference and was singing I think Tenacious D or something, 387 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 6: not the most appropriate song per se, But he's a 388 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 6: really good dude. He came to my charity event a 389 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 6: couple of years ago and h ken Flow, you were 390 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 6: in a swing bout back in the day. Correct, Can 391 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 6: you explain that to our listeners a little bit? 392 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 7: Right? 393 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 5: So? 394 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: I was it was when Anderson Silva fought Nathan marquardt. 395 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: I believe so I think. You know, the UFC had 396 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 2: five fights, uh for the main card, and because of 397 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: how the pay per views were organized back then, you 398 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: only had a certain amount of time, you know, to fight. 399 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: There was a certain amount of time, and then once 400 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: that time went off, the pavvity was shut down, like 401 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: there was no more or television after that. Right, So 402 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: I was what was called a swing bout, and it 403 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: means that I would go anywhere from I would be 404 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: either the second fight of the night, the third fight 405 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: of the night, the fourth fight of the night, or 406 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: the sixth fight of the night. But what had to 407 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: happen was the championship fight had to happen, and you 408 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: know if it was you know, if you were short 409 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: on time or close on time, you had to make 410 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: sure that you were able to get those five rounds in. 411 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: So Anderson Silva, of course, being the champion, needed to 412 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: have that amount of time make sure that he'd be 413 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 2: able to fight and everyone be able to see it. 414 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: So they had me ready to go for the second fight. Kenny, 415 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: You're on deck, get ready to go. 416 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 7: All right. 417 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: Now we're gonna move to the third fight, so I'm like, okay, 418 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: So then I kind of wait around a little bit. 419 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: You're going to the fourth fight, Okay, you're going after 420 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: the main event. So I had literally been warming up, 421 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: you know, probably an hour before I was supposed to 422 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: go on for the second fight. So I was warming 423 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: up for like three hours anyways, and went on after 424 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 2: Anderson Silva had knocked out Nathan Markquard. No, they literally 425 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: had me strip off my I had like a Bruce 426 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 2: Lee warm up suit on that I was ready to 427 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: debut for the pay per view. I had to take 428 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: that off. There was no music, you know. Me and 429 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: Alvin Robinson had to sprint out to the octagon and 430 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: we were announced that we fought. So at least you 431 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: got to fight, and you knew, no matter what, even 432 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: if nobody could see it back home, that you were 433 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: actually going to get the chance to compete. And that 434 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: was a w finish if I'm not mistaken over Alvin Robinson. 435 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 6: So all's well, that ends well. But hopefully they can 436 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 6: turn Chas Skelly around quickly. It's sort of a tough 437 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 6: climate though. To do that. It sounds like, oh, well, 438 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 6: just find Skelley. Somebody but you know these fight card 439 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 6: we got fifteen fights on these cards, right, everybody needs 440 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 6: a slot. You know, I know Miranda Maverick would have 441 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 6: loved to have gotten in there quickly after Jillian Robertson 442 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 6: was unable to make the walk on fight day for 443 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 6: her a couple of weeks ago. But easier said than done. 444 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 6: So Yanakunitzky obviously a big, big win over kentln Viada 445 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 6: Derek Minner on the main card. These Doacas boys can fight. 446 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 6: Did you see Chris Doccas against alexiolinic He must have 447 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 6: if he didn't love the way Herb Dean handled the 448 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 6: end of it. What did you make of Chris Doccas there? 449 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 6: Moving to three and oh against the uh, the ageless alexiolinic. 450 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: I told people to watch out for Doccas man. First, well, 451 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: he looked like he you know, has lost weight. 452 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 7: Uh. 453 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 2: So he looked way better. Uh and he's sneaky, fast man. 454 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 2: He put together some serious combinations and again, you know, 455 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: for Olinic he's a tremendous grappler. He's very dangerous, but 456 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: you know on the feet is when he where he's 457 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: most vulnerable. Right, and Doccas just took full advantage of that, 458 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: and uh, you know that that flurry at the end 459 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: was it was a lot of unanswered punches, man, And 460 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 2: I thought again, I thought her Dean should have start 461 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: stopped it a little earlier. And he wasn't defending himself. 462 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: And even after the fight was stuck, you could see 463 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: allinic you know, was he was stepping in potholes after 464 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: that fight, you know, he he couldn't get his balance. 465 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: He almost fell down. It was hard to watch the guys. 466 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: He's an older guy, man, he's been fighting forever. Don't 467 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: let him take that kind of I agree. I couldn't 468 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 2: agree with you more. 469 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 6: And it seemed like some fans were suggesting that Olennok 470 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 6: was sort of trying to give herb a signal like, bro, 471 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 6: can you come in? 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It's very long ago. 506 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes. 507 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to push a whole in this fucking show. 508 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 8: Start. 509 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: That's what I want, the. 510 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: Ray Longo minute. 511 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 7: Dur Ray Longo the. 512 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: John Nik and Kenny Florian Podcast. 513 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 6: Well, last week Ray said that we made his Monday 514 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 6: and we lifted up his spirits, and hopefully we can 515 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 6: do that again this week, Ray, because as some of 516 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 6: our listeners and viewers know by now, the long Goo 517 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 6: Widman Mma family lost an absolute giant over the last 518 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 6: few days. Ray, our deepest condolence is on the loss 519 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 6: of your friend Ni Vincent j Pecora, junior father in 520 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 6: law to a former UFC Midway Champion and close friend 521 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 6: of the show, Chris Wadman, and for his wife Marievi 522 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 6: losing her father tragically like this. I met this man 523 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 6: back in the day and our apologies, Ray Man, this 524 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 6: is a huge loss for Chris and you and the 525 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 6: entire line in MA family. So our heart has been 526 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 6: with you over the last forty eight hours or some I'm. 527 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 7: In Yeah, I really appreciate it. Man, Vinnie was just 528 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 7: a stand up guy. That's the way you think of 529 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 7: Vinnie as stand up guy. Like again, he shot from 530 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 7: the hip. I think he probably rubbed a couple of 531 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 7: people wrong, but to me it was a breath of 532 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 7: fresh air, you know, no backstabbing and new way he 533 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 7: stood with the guy. I'm going to stay besides my mother, 534 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 7: probably my biggest fan. I mean, I really missed this guy. 535 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 7: I mean I always love seeing him at the gym 536 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 7: breaking bulls. We had a lot of lifts. You know. 537 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 7: He was a throwback. He probably was about seventy years old. 538 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 7: Maybe I'm going to say and ex Vietnam, Vett did 539 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 7: a bunch of toys. I think one of the stories 540 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 7: is like he did his brother got drafted and he 541 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 7: went in for his brother and did another tour. So, 542 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 7: I mean that's the type of guy he was. He 543 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 7: You know, I think Chris put in his post he 544 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 7: was either talking wrestling, MMA or Vietnam. That's what he 545 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 7: That's what he talked about. Man, and he supported everybody 546 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 7: in the gym. I mean, I'm going to say the 547 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 7: first day he saw Morob's work ethic, he was like, 548 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 7: this guy is something special. Like he was just that 549 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 7: guy he was. Everybody loved him again, Like I don't 550 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 7: think there was a bigger fan and his you know, 551 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 7: one of his pleasures, you know, as you get older, 552 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 7: you know, just to have passionate about anything is great. 553 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 7: But one of his pleasures was coming to that gym 554 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 7: and interacting. You know. He was a legit tough guy. Man, 555 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 7: he really was, and I mean I'm going to miss him. 556 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 7: I mean, you know, he he's got a colorful pass man. 557 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 7: You could write a book on this guy. This guy 558 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 7: crammed a lot into those seventy years, trust me. So 559 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 7: he's going to be missed, he really is. And you know, 560 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 7: just tragic the way it happened, because to me, I go, 561 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 7: I go over it in my head just didn't have 562 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 7: to happen, you know. And it was a complete accident, 563 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 7: right and really, to make it worse, he was hit 564 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 7: by another guy from the gym. Oh man, Ye so 565 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 7: listen and we tried. I mean, this guy is devastated, 566 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 7: but everybody lives an accident We really want this guy 567 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 7: to get to heal as quick as possible, because I 568 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 7: don't know if that's possible. But you know, so think 569 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 7: of that whole situation at the gym and when it 570 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 7: when I went down, I was just it was mind boggling. 571 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 7: But listen, man, you know, life is crazy. It's all 572 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 7: a part of life. And you know, I'm not really 573 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 7: like a religious guy, but this is really when religion 574 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 7: helps you, you know what I mean. They have a 575 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 7: great way of looking at you know, death, and Widman's 576 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 7: fantastic with that crap. He really is. He's he's a 577 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 7: great guy to talk to because it's pretty, it's soothing, 578 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. 579 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, Now, leaning into the faith at times like this, 580 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 6: I know helps a lot of people. Through the Vincent 581 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 6: Jpacor Junior O Wrestling Scholarship has been set up. It's 582 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 6: a GoFundMe. You can find the link on Chris Wadman's 583 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 6: Instagram page. They've raised about twenty thousand dollars of their 584 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 6: fifty thousand dollars goal. But she writes, I believe it 585 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 6: was Marie who wrote my dad's two biggest loves in 586 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 6: life were family and wrestling. So and again, this guy's unmistakable. 587 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 8: Man. 588 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 6: As soon as I saw his face, there was familiarity there. 589 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 6: And I understand there's a picture of me and him circulating, 590 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 6: and I hope I can get my hands on that. 591 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 6: But this hit us all like a ton of bricks yesterday, Ray, 592 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 6: and we were certainly thinking about you. I do have 593 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 6: some brighter topics if you would like to, let's go, man, 594 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 6: all right, and you know and he would want us die. 595 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 7: I know that. 596 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 6: Well, if he is your biggest fan, I mean I thought, 597 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 6: other than your mom, that Kenny and I were kind 598 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 6: of your biggest fans. Gave you goddamn your own fucking 599 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 6: segment on our podcast. 600 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 7: This guy was above and beyond that. Trust me, he's 601 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 7: a great guy. 602 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 6: So if he's that big a fan of yours, Vinny 603 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 6: had to listen to the podcast then now. 604 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 7: I mean I think he listened to anything, anything that 605 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 7: Jim did, anything that was Ray Longo content. 606 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 6: Well, no place has provided you Ray long Goo content 607 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 6: over the last six years quite like the ANA podcast. 608 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 6: So we'll start with your hair, then we'll get to 609 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 6: Derek Lewis. We got some Al Joe stuff as well. 610 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 6: Before we get on out of here. So Matt Sarah 611 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 6: texted me about your hair. 612 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 7: He's just a rotten cocksucker. I don't even know if 613 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 7: I don't even have to hear what it is, but well, 614 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 7: cox sucker comes to my my brain, So go ahead, 615 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 7: what was it? Well? 616 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 6: I think we both what it was. I think we 617 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 6: are both aligned in thinking that you should wash it. 618 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 7: The next time you see me, I'll be a completely 619 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 7: different person. How's that all right? I'm so psyched up 620 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 7: for this title fight I might shave my head. 621 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 6: So are you going to Vegas? 622 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 7: Yeah? Of course. When are you leaving Friday? 623 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 6: Oh wow, so you go? Okay, that's right. You sent 624 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 6: me ten days out so to give you a big 625 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 6: COVID hog in a few days. 626 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 7: My man, we can't. I can't get COVID. I'm immune 627 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 7: to the COVID. Now, that's right, You've got to go. 628 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 7: You know, I would have went out early. I got 629 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 7: just so much stuff going on, and we have uh. 630 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 7: I mean it kind of worked out because we have 631 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 7: the you know, the wake for any Wednesday, Thursday, Fridays, 632 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 7: the burials, so whatever, so it works. I'm not going 633 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 7: back negative. I'm telling you, he definitely wouldn't want that 634 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 7: at all he wants he would want this thing to 635 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 7: go on with absolutely no question in my mind. He's 636 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 7: like again, stand up guy, he is, don't waste no time. 637 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 7: Let's just move on. So but yeah, so what was 638 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 7: the Uh that was it? He just wanted me to 639 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 7: wash my hair? 640 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think we were just both acknowledging that. 641 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 7: Uh. 642 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 6: You can almost see the lack of perk plus on 643 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 6: the Anec and Florian podcast, you know, But that's neither 644 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 6: here nor there. I guess we'll talk about the Black Beast, 645 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 6: Derek Lewis. He has a haircut right up my alley, right, 646 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 6: shaving that head. And uh, how about Derek Lewis most 647 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 6: prolific knockout artists in UFC history. 648 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 7: I gotta tell you, man, I I thought Blades, I 649 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 7: thought that. I thought it was going to be a 650 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 7: ground and pound, you know, he was going to take 651 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 7: him down. Uh, that dude, I'm blown away, Like he's 652 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 7: got one shot of getting you, Like I mean, if 653 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 7: I would, you know, like you know Kenny back in 654 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 7: the day when the wrestlers were coming on strong and 655 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 7: you always had that one guy just got him on 656 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 7: an upper cut right never worked. I'll let him with 657 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 7: the mock. Yeah, you had to sit there and go, 658 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 7: oh my god, these guys are lost. 659 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 5: Mother fuck. 660 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 7: It hits this guy with an upper cut from and 661 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 7: he said, that's all he was waiting for. He was 662 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 7: willing to even lose the stand up to keep his 663 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 7: hands in position to land that upper cut. When the 664 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 7: guy came in and Blades was doing great standing up, 665 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 7: which is crazy. 666 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: You know, It's like ray, I think it was half 667 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: half upper cut, half dim mock because he put him 668 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: to sleep as soon as he touched him. It didn't 669 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: even look like he hit him that hard, just shut 670 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: him down immediately. It was crazy, and. 671 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 7: We slowed that down. This wasn't a fix, was it. 672 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: I mean, was a guy? 673 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 7: How the hell did he do that? I mean, that guy, 674 00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 7: he's stiff in that. 675 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: This is chee, Derek Lewiss, This is cheap. 676 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 7: I mean, I'll just him. 677 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 6: It makes me think. It makes me think as a 678 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 6: non fighter, granted about the two times that I was 679 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 6: separated from consciousness and concussed in my life because well no, 680 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 6: but I'm curious with this type of shot right under 681 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 6: the chip, like what part of his brain is hitting 682 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Like how did this shut 683 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 6: the lights out? 684 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 7: Honestly, I don't think he hit him in the head. 685 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 7: I think he I think it was the fear of 686 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 7: seeing the upper cut coming. The guy just shout down, Kenny. 687 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 7: I don't even did that hit him in the head chest. 688 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm telling it him clean. He didn't hit him clean. 689 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just kind of like it now. 690 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 7: I'm thinking he stopped his heart for replicable crazy. This 691 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 7: This is my this is this would be on my 692 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 7: wish list. I think the UFC should do. He has 693 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 7: a rematch with ain't Ghano, Right, they cut the octagon 694 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 7: in half and they make the over run to thirty seconds. 695 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 7: I want you to ask cut the octagon in half second, Yeah, 696 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 7: maybe even cut it in quarters. Don't let them move. 697 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 7: They just got to win this, you know, unbelievable, and. 698 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 6: We actually discussed that earlier in the podcast. I believe 699 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 6: if those two got the chance to fight again, that 700 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 6: it's a one round fight and one of those guys 701 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 6: will not. 702 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 7: I mean, at this point, it's whoever pitch the other 703 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 7: guy first is you know, I have that say in 704 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 7: firstest with the mostest is the bestest. That's that's that fight. 705 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 7: Whoever gets there first, is going to be is going 706 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 7: to be a winner. I think that's why it was 707 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 7: so tentative the last time. I think they both know it, 708 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 7: you know. And it's crazy. It's like, you know, Derek Lewis, 709 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 7: you could see his power, you know, like it's not 710 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 7: I don't know what I'm trying to say, but and 711 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 7: Ghano his stuff comes like with speed, like it's like 712 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 7: he's generating I believe, even more force, which is scary 713 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 7: because oh yeah, Eric Lewis is just bombing people to sleep. 714 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 7: It's like like again that shot, I think it was 715 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 7: the you know, I know, you know, he definitely got hit. 716 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 7: I'm joking with this, but it's almost like it was 717 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 7: the anticipation, like. 718 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 3: I put him and I load up his upper and 719 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: I just go him out, put me to sleep, you know, 720 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 3: because it looked that good, and I'm like, wow, I 721 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 3: was staying there, going this guy's this guy's got some. 722 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 7: Power and it's a guy it looks like he's having 723 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 7: a ball in there toe, which is really good. You know. 724 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 6: Kenny and I called a lot of his early fights 725 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 6: in the UFC, and I'm so glad that Kenny sort 726 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 6: of brought up his back injury. You know, this is 727 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 6: a guy who, if memory serves, had to fight with 728 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 6: Fabricio Overdoom Go Away on fight day Kenny because of 729 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 6: a back issue. And uh, I do think that I 730 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 6: was sort of talking about his strength and conditioning and 731 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 6: physically how good he looked Ray, But Kenny was sort 732 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 6: of alluding to the fact that if his back is 733 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 6: right and he's sustaining raining camps and putting eight and 734 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 6: ten weeks together two camps essentially for Curtis blades, you know, 735 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 6: you can't help but be in really good shape. And 736 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 6: he certainly looked. 737 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 7: At oh one hundred. But so let me tell you something. 738 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 7: First off, we have this discussion all the time, and 739 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 7: I'm the back injury when it's like a nerve thing 740 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 7: lower bat is the worst injury I think you could have. 741 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 7: It just shuts you down, you can't move. So, man, 742 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 7: it's a good observation. You get your back straight. First off, 743 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 7: you'll feel mentally better. You get an increase in cardio 744 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 7: just by the stress of feeling great. If you're able 745 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 7: to work out what an added benefit, man, Because when 746 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 7: I'm sure he's walked around in so much pain on 747 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 7: a lot of times that when when you feel that 748 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 7: you could do things and you don't have that pains, 749 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 7: it's a home run. It's a new lease on life. 750 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 7: And that could very well be it because you know 751 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 7: that the back it just man, it just locks you up. Man, 752 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 7: it's it's horrible. 753 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 6: So in in terms of Steepe and Francis and Gano, 754 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 6: I know you're back in your guy Steepe to win 755 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 6: the fight. Is that correct? 756 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 7: Yeah? 757 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 6: I mean can you imagine if steep A defends against 758 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 6: Inghanu and potentially Derek Lewis right now and just rides 759 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 6: off into the sunset. 760 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: Unbelievable? 761 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, steep A, come on, man, how could you not 762 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 7: acknowledge the body of work this guy has? And uh 763 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 7: and he looked great in his list. I think he 764 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 7: knows what to do to win. And it's not going 765 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 7: to be easy because I think the other guy probably 766 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 7: fixed those kinks in his game. But uh man, that's 767 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 7: going to be exciting. 768 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 6: It's going to be interesting to see where Curtis plays 769 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 6: goes from here. You know, he never fought Steepe. I 770 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 6: don't know if he's going to get that opportunity. Likely 771 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 6: would have to string together a couple more wins at 772 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 6: this point in time, but it's going to be a 773 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 6: tough one for him to swallow. Anything else jump off 774 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 6: the card over the weekend before we spin this thing forward, right, 775 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 6: any other performances that you wanted to highlight. 776 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 7: I look, the girl fight, Uh, don't call it girl fight. 777 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 6: I mean you got two honest man, people hate when 778 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 6: we called a girlfight. No women, you're talking about the 779 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 6: women in the coming event, right, beautiful Jana Kunitzki and 780 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 6: Kevin Vita. 781 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 7: I thought I thought the scoring was was interesting in 782 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 7: that fight. I think it was maybe a step in 783 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 7: the right direction, right because they definitely scored it on 784 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 7: damage for sure, But if you really I'm saying eight 785 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 7: years ago the old scoring, whenever the hell they changed it, 786 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 7: the other girl probably just wins that fight for the 787 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 7: wrong reason. So I thought I didn't know which way 788 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 7: it was going. But when they when I heard the scores, 789 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 7: I go, all right, I get that was Yeah, she 790 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 7: definitely put an exclamation point on it. The damage was 791 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 7: definitely clearly lopsided. The control was, you know, going the 792 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 7: other way. But I like the way they scored that. 793 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 6: And last thing on this card and Ken Flow, I'm 794 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 6: curious to get your thoughts on Tom Aspinall as well 795 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 6: by submission over Andrea Orlovski. And I think a lot 796 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 6: of people are thinking that maybe England's got a heavyweight 797 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 6: that really can break through and be a significant problem. Kenny, 798 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 6: we'll start with you. What did you think about Tom 799 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 6: Aspinall disposing of the future Hall of Famer Andre Rolovsky. 800 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 2: You know, he's big, he's athletic, he's fast, and he 801 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 2: did what a lot of other heavyweights could not do 802 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 2: to Arlovsky right now. You know Arlosky, Yes, he's been 803 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 2: around a long time, but this guy has shown that 804 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: he still loves the game and has continued to improve 805 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 2: and adapt during the fight. But Aspinall was just way 806 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: too much. He was moving better than Arlovsky, he was 807 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: landing shots h and he's got the killer instinct. Man. 808 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 2: As soon as he had him down, he went around 809 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: right to the back, didn't waste any time, took him 810 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 2: out with the root naked choke and that was it. 811 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: And Arlovsky almost like as he got up, he's like, 812 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 2: I don't even know what happened out there, Like it 813 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 2: seemed like he just just overwhelmed. And it was a 814 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: great performance by by the British heavyweight. 815 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely definitely overwhelmed him against the cage that time, 816 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 7: and uh, you know, great fight, IQ. Man. He got 817 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 7: hit a couple of times. He said he felt the power. 818 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 7: He went to something else that nobody expected, I think, 819 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 7: which is always beautiful. And he he latched onto that choke, 820 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 7: which is crazy. And John, you alluded to something. Alovsky 821 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 7: is a mystery to me because he still looks like 822 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 7: he wants to be in there. Obviously, this guy said 823 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 7: it himself. I's been old, said he felt the power 824 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 7: and he changed gears, you know. So, man, I tell 825 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 7: you that I thought this guy was done five or 826 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 7: six years ago. So the fact that he's still in 827 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 7: there and he's competitive, yeah, it's something different with him. 828 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 7: I don't know what is, because you know, I'm always 829 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 7: on the side. I don't like seeing the light guy 830 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 7: right take the beating. He seems to deal with it better. 831 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 7: I don't know why, but. 832 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, there were people that buried him in twenty eleven. 833 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 6: It's fun ten years later. So but you're right, he 834 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 6: does seem to be aging gracefully and he still is 835 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 6: able to train three times a day and super hard, 836 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 6: So I guess you didn't like seeing alexey Olenik take 837 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 6: that type of beating from Chris Dakas. 838 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 7: Huh, I think I called that to somebody else because 839 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 7: Dorcas is tough man. Those guys are really tough. But 840 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 7: you know, Linux got one way of beating you. How 841 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 7: old is ow old is? Uh? 842 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 6: Nineteen seventy six for Alexi Olynics, So coming up on 843 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 6: forty five. 844 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 7: At my age, Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. Ken, a 845 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 7: guy that you know what, what's the joke he does? Kenny, 846 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 7: I mean Ezekiel joke. You're going to sleep, you know. 847 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I'd rather do a lot of fraternity hazing 848 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 6: again than than get put in Olynics Ezekiel choke. That 849 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 6: does not look pleasant at all. Hey, go ahead, go ahead, Ray, 850 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 6: go ahead, go go. No, I was going to say 851 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 6: amon Za Hobby was the only bonus winner we did 852 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 6: not discuss. Gotta feel good for Amanza Hobby after the 853 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 6: long layoff right in that huge knockout in the accompanying 854 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 6: fifty k Ken, you gotta feel good for your guy 855 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 6: for us. 856 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 2: And Amen? 857 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 6: Did you ever train with Amen? 858 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 2: I trained a lot with Amen. Actually I brought him 859 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 2: out to Boston that to help me train it right. 860 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 7: Uh. 861 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 2: He's a guy that has helped me a lot. Great kid. 862 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 2: It was great to see him when he got into 863 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 2: the UFC for the first time. Has had his ups 864 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 2: and downs, but to see him get a win and 865 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: to do it impressively was was great to see just 866 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: what one of the nicest dudes in the sport for sure, 867 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: so real happy for for aiming and for for us. 868 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 7: I did. I did, Oh you know, I mean he 869 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 7: you know the times I met him, He's just a 870 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 7: sweet kid, you know, for us is for us. Is 871 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 7: a cool dude. Uh. There's a lot of guys in 872 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 7: my gym that liked him. I was in the locker 873 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 7: room I think in Connecticut, but you know I was 874 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 7: with a guy that was a big fan of his 875 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 7: me and just busted the guy's bulls. You know, it's fun. 876 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 7: But that kid's a sweetheart. He is. Oh yeah, he's 877 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 7: a so really happy for him. Uh. Well, the other 878 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 7: thing that jumps off my head and out, I'm thinking about, 879 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 7: what about the I had to misweight by eleven pounds? 880 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 6: What does sit by that much? 881 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 7: I love it? Kenny, It was so bizarre he had 882 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 7: to come up with. It was the sermon. I mean, 883 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 7: think about it, nobody, That's the only thing you could say. 884 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: My shoes were to. 885 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, sneak has hurt my feet. 886 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 2: What is the excuse? Eleven and a half? What are 887 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 2: you doing right way? 888 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 6: Class? 889 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 7: And you know where that guy is now, Kenny, he's 890 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 7: swimming upstream. Yeah, I think it was just. 891 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 6: Well, I don't even need to read what happened. Uh again, 892 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 6: like because a lot of things happened to Ken Flow 893 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 6: and Paul Felder when they're trying to make that number, 894 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 6: you know, and they make it so uh not a 895 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 6: good look for hafe Lalvez or rafae lalvez er. I 896 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 6: don't know how to pronounce his name right now. I 897 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 6: did not call the car go ahead, Ken. 898 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 2: Ray, I was going to ask you when do you 899 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 2: take off for Vegas? And who's going to be in 900 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 2: the corner with you on fight. 901 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 7: Night for alcohol? I'm taking on a Friday. I'm still 902 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 7: not sure it's in the corner, believe it or not. 903 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 7: So I think because of the COVID, you know, restrictions, 904 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 7: he's you know, it's not like the old days where 905 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 7: you could have guys around. You have to have guys 906 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 7: that you train with because that's who you're going to 907 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 7: warm up with in the back. So I'm not really sure. 908 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 7: He flip flopped a couple of times, so I'll let 909 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 7: you know next time I talk to you. For sure you. 910 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 6: Get the extra body, obviously, because it's a title fight. Yes, 911 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 6: last thing before we let you go, how about our 912 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 6: guy Balah Muhammad stepping in to the main event against 913 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 6: Leon Edwards on March thirteenth. We have Balala on this 914 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 6: show last week, rare. You probably didn't see it, but 915 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 6: we sort of started talking about him fighting Leejing Leong, 916 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,479 Speaker 6: and then I got thinking aloud that you know what, 917 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,959 Speaker 6: Leon's going to need a ranked opponent, and there aren't 918 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 6: that many guys out there, and now Blas getting his 919 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 6: first UFC main event. 920 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 7: Holy crow, Joe Silva, great job. 921 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 6: Well, no, hey, it's again about my part in all 922 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 6: of this. Is what careers are made of, right. 923 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 7: I mean, you see's stepping up, He's doing the right thing. 924 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 7: And look, the guy's got confidence. He's a grinder, he's 925 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 7: always in your face. I don't think that guy's an 926 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 7: easy fight for anybody, So hats off to him, man. 927 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: I think. 928 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 7: Who knows, you know, I think it's a great opportunity, 929 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,439 Speaker 7: and you know, uh, cream always rises to the top. 930 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 7: You know, you can't stop it no matter what. So 931 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 7: we'll see what happens. But if he's going to be there, 932 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 7: he's going to be there, and this will be a 933 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 7: great fight to prove it. 934 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 6: Kenny real quick. Four straight wins for Blall, eight of nine, 935 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 6: and if you look at the top five, you can 936 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 6: argue matchup wise, this might be a better stylistic draw 937 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 6: for him than some other guys in that top five. 938 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 6: I did watch a little Leon Edwards film after the 939 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 6: fight was announced. I see a speed discrepancy. You know, 940 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 6: I think he's going to have to figure out a 941 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 6: way to deal with Leon speed. But uh, I think 942 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 6: a winnable fight. Nonetheless, you know, Ballall's plus two hundred. 943 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,479 Speaker 6: It's not like he's plus six hundred. I mean, Vegas 944 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 6: certainly given him a shot. 945 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely endless. And you know the kind of pressure that 946 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 2: Ballall puts on his opponents and his ability to mix 947 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 2: things up. He's not a one dimensional fighter. He can 948 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 2: do a lot of different things. He knows how to adapt, 949 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 2: has a lot of experience, has a lot of momentum. 950 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 2: Now I think he can pose a lot of problems. 951 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 2: You know, no one likes high pressure fights like that, 952 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 2: no matter how good you are, you want to have 953 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 2: some space. You want to have you know, ability to 954 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 2: breathe and think and plan, uh and blall just stays 955 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 2: right in your face and makes it a nasty, horrible fight. 956 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 2: And I think that's kind of what you got to 957 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 2: do against a very technical fighter like Leon Edwards. 958 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 7: No question about. He has a smothering style and he 959 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 7: seems like he's a student of the game, so he 960 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 7: understands it. Uh, And he's got the he's got the 961 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 7: chops to back it up. 962 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 6: Man. 963 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 7: You saw him, you know, suck up those leg kicks, 964 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 7: those caf kicks. Yeah, he's not He's tough. I mean, 965 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 7: there's no question that the guy's tough. 966 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 5: Uh. 967 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 7: Technically, obviously, I think Edwards has the advantage, but like 968 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 7: Kenny says, when you're getting smothered, that that that you know, 969 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 7: that advantage could go disappear very quickly, especially for. 970 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 2: Twenty five minutes to do it, you know. 971 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 7: Right, twenty five minutes to do it, and the guy 972 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 7: hasn't been active, right, one guy's been active. One guy 973 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 7: has it, you know, So you know, if I'm below 974 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 7: I mean, I would try to drag that fight into 975 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 7: the fourth or fifth round and see what. You know, 976 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 7: you never know what happens, but he could smother the guy. 977 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 2: All right. 978 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 6: So next Monday is March, first first day of Women's 979 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 6: History Month. My calendar tells me, so you're gonna be 980 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 6: in Las Vegas next week, next Monday for the show. 981 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 6: So that would seem to be an eight am call 982 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 6: time next Monday for the Anta Chlorian podcast. 983 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 2: He's busy day, He's busy, all right, well. 984 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 7: Seriously, well maybe well oh my god. 985 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 6: Well, hey, I'm going to be out there doing the 986 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 6: live event Rosen Strike and Sero Gone this weekend. So 987 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 6: uh oh, you're gonna be out there, yeah, so together. Yeah, 988 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 6: we're gonna hang out, right, we'll hang out all right. 989 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 7: Like a pajama party. We'll do whatever you want want 990 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 7: to do. 991 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 6: You get a haircut and wash your scalp and i'll 992 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 6: see you in a few days. 993 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 7: All right, I'm going for the right now. 994 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 6: There you go, all get on out of here. Hey, hey, 995 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 6: best to the family and the whole Wiman plan. 996 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 7: Of course, we'll tell them. But again, big fan of everybody, 997 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 7: I'm going to be missed and Thank you very much. 998 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 7: Guys really appreciate that. 999 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 6: All Right, every week here on the Anakin Florian Podcast, 1000 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 6: and we dedicate today's episode to the late great Vincent 1001 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 6: Jay Pecora Junior. All Right, so heavyweight division had a 1002 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 6: big weekend, of course, and the hits keep on coming. 1003 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 6: This weekend live on ESPN Plus, it'll be Jarseno Rosen 1004 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 6: striking seedle Gone in the main event. To that end, 1005 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 6: let's get to the Main Event Challenge. 1006 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: It's the Main Event Challenge and. 1007 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 6: Tis most. 1008 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: How do everything will to win the Main Event Challenge? 1009 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: John and Kenny Florian Podcast. 1010 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 6: Main Event Challenge Today is brought to you by odd Shark, 1011 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 6: your source for the latest odds from leaving authorities, expert 1012 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 6: editorial content and detailed matchup picks with expert in depth 1013 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 6: analysis for each game. Their free statistics, numbers and trends 1014 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 6: will help you make the sharp picks on game day. 1015 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 6: Head over to odd Shark and start playing like a 1016 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 6: shark today that it's oddshark dot Com. Don't forget the 1017 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 6: second s and Ian Parker with a cough now joins 1018 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 6: US live team. Florian wins the week five to four 1019 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 6: overall lead is eighteen sixteen per our intern Casey Williams, 1020 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 6: whom I trust now to a great extent. He's absolutely 1021 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 6: killing it. Ian Parker, It's good to see him, my man. 1022 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 6: We're going to begin our picks here with a prelim 1023 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 6: in the lightweight division. Alexander Hernandez minus one ninety Tiago 1024 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 6: Moyses plus one sixty five. 1025 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 7: Who do you like? 1026 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 5: Interesting matchup here? Thiagra Moyses coming off a nice win 1027 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 5: over Bobby Green, which I know Kenny I both didn't 1028 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 5: really expect. I still like Alex Hernandez here. I still 1029 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 5: think he's got a lot to offer overall the game. 1030 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 5: I'm thinking his wrestling background will help him keep the 1031 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 5: fight on the feet. You know, he is shown sometimes 1032 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 5: when he gets a little too aggressive that Ackfuyers. I 1033 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 5: think he's kind of coming into his own I think 1034 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 5: he's more focused now and I think keeps a fight 1035 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 5: un beat. The fight should be his. So I'm going 1036 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 5: to go with Alex Hernandez. 1037 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 6: Alexander Hernandez minus one ninety training at Elevation now Ken Flow. 1038 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 6: He's won two of three bonus his last time out, 1039 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 6: and as Ian mentioned last win for Thiago Moyses on 1040 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 6: Halloween against Bobby Green, your thoughts on this one at 1041 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty five pounds. 1042 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 2: You know, Moises has has improved as a striker. I 1043 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 2: think I was. I was impressed by the improvements he 1044 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,439 Speaker 2: made in his last fight. I do think he can 1045 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 2: be a submission threat. And Alex Hernandez. Alexander Hernandez, you know, 1046 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 2: it was kind of an inconsistent fighter at times. I 1047 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,760 Speaker 2: feel like, you know, sometimes he doesn't take the smartest 1048 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:53,240 Speaker 2: of approaches. But while I do see some value for Moisas, 1049 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 2: I do think that Hernandez should get the NOD here. 1050 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 6: I agree with that. I see value in that plus 1051 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 6: one sixty five. But again, you're talking about Hampster's lives. 1052 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 6: We're trying to pick winners here. 1053 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 7: All right. 1054 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 6: A fight just added to the main card on Saturday, 1055 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 6: So this is very interesting. Angela Hill minus three hundred 1056 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 6: Ashley Yoder plus two forty. So Hill has been looking 1057 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 6: for a fight ian as you well know, she hasn't 1058 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 6: fought since last September. She got COVID nineteen prior to 1059 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 6: the schedule t Sha Torre's fight in December. Here she 1060 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 6: draws Ashley Yoder, coming off a big win in November 1061 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 6: what do you think about Ashleyoder in this spot? Any 1062 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 6: value at plus two forty for you? Ian? I know, 1063 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 6: I'm just kind of breaking that bedding line for you. Now, 1064 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 6: what do you think. 1065 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 5: I think there's a tremendous amount of value in Ashley 1066 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 5: Yoder simply because of how she's able to push chick. Yeah, 1067 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 5: I know, Kenny, I know. Listen, at this point, you 1068 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 5: got to understand you and I share a lot of 1069 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 5: the same sentiments. 1070 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 7: Problem. 1071 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't help but love me at this point. 1072 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 7: And I love. 1073 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,280 Speaker 5: The old Ashley Yoder. She's very smart with her striking. 1074 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 5: She knows how to keep the distance. She is I 1075 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 5: think high level like you, where she doesn't eve get 1076 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 5: in of brawls, and she knows where she's great at 1077 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 5: and that's in ju ju. And this is where the 1078 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,919 Speaker 5: biggest difference between the two going to be. I think 1079 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 5: she can get out Angela Hill's back. I think she 1080 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 5: can get to the fights to the floor. She fights 1081 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 5: an urgency off her back. She does not sit there. 1082 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 5: She's not content. Angela Hill's gotten better overall, but this 1083 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 5: is not someone that she's gonna be able to take 1084 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,839 Speaker 5: down and sit on top and outpower them. You know, 1085 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 5: I just don't see that happening. And in the striking area, 1086 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 5: I think Yoda has improved tremendously. I think Angela Hill 1087 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,879 Speaker 5: fights a lot, but she does not beat the top 1088 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 5: level competition. And I just think that styles Maig fights 1089 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 5: in this situation the striker versus not maybe as good 1090 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 5: as striker, but way better on the ground. So I'm 1091 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 5: going to roll the dice with Ashley Yoder. I do 1092 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 5: love the value in that plus two plus two hundred number, Kenny. 1093 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 6: I agree with a lot of that. I thought Angela 1094 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 6: Hill would be minus one eighty or so. I just 1095 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 6: checked it before the show. She's a three to one favorite. 1096 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 6: Your thoughts on this one at one hundred and fifteen pounds. 1097 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, again, just based on the odds, I 1098 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 2: think Ian is accurate here. I think that there's a 1099 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 2: lot of value with Ashley Yoder, and I will pick her. 1100 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 2: I think that, you know, she's deceptively tough. You look 1101 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 2: at her, She's this pretty girl, and you know you 1102 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 2: think that she's gonna go out there and kind of 1103 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 2: pit her pat she's trying to hurt you. She's me 1104 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 2: she wants to submit you. She has a good amount 1105 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 2: of experience, she has only gotten better. And while I 1106 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 2: do think you know, Angela can be difficult to deal with, 1107 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 2: she's very unorthodox on the feet, so getting a rhythm 1108 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 2: on her is probably going to take Ashley some time. 1109 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 2: And Ashley does get better as the fight goes on. 1110 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,399 Speaker 2: So I like Ashley here as well. I think there's 1111 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 2: a lot of value here. 1112 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 6: Breaking news can full thinks Ashley Yoder's hot, She's right 1113 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 6: next up girl. At the other way, it'll be you 1114 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 6: have the appearance number twenty four. See Kenny and I 1115 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 6: are old now, right, so we can say it's a 1116 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 6: pretty girl, pretty girl. Right another way, division, you're just 1117 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 6: not breaking any news. It's kind of obvious, all right, 1118 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 6: that's right, that's true. You have the appearance number twenty 1119 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,879 Speaker 6: four for Alex Cassaris. He's the modust two thirty five 1120 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,399 Speaker 6: favorite against Glory Mma and fitness is Kevin Krume, who 1121 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 6: is plus one ninety five. All right, so Krom debuted memorably. 1122 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 6: How about this horse shitty in Parker Right September twelfth, 1123 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 6: last year, steps in on one day's notice, needs just 1124 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 6: thirty one seconds to submit. Roosevelt Roberts gets a fifty 1125 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 6: thousand dollars performance of the night bonus, but a pre 1126 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 6: fight drug screen identified the presence of marijuana, so Kroum 1127 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 6: subsequently agreed to a proposed adjudication agreement that includes a suspension, 1128 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 6: which expired January twenty sixth. Reduce fine, YadA, YadA, YadA. 1129 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 6: But dude, you take the fight on the day's notice 1130 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 6: and you get your win overturned and your bonus overturned 1131 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 6: for smoking weed on a day's notice. I mean, I 1132 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 6: know Ian Parker would have passed that test because he's 1133 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 6: the only Jew I know that doesn't smoke the devil's lettuce. 1134 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 6: But that is garbage. No one day's notice is Isn't 1135 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 6: it fucked up that I don't smoke? 1136 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,720 Speaker 7: And I still look. 1137 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,359 Speaker 5: Like you know you do like it's not fair. It's 1138 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 5: just not fair. And if I do this, I look 1139 00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 5: even crazier. 1140 00:52:59,360 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 6: I like this. 1141 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 5: So I think he's lucky. That's all he failed in 1142 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 5: a day's notice. He could have been out the night 1143 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 5: before doing what he was doing. This to me is 1144 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 5: an interesting one also with a full camp, and he's 1145 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 5: like someone with a very similar style to the guy 1146 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 5: he just beat, Roosevelt Robert. It's a tall lank guy 1147 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 5: who strikes with an unodox fashion with good jiu jitsu skills. 1148 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,919 Speaker 5: I kind of want to take a shot in Kevin 1149 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 5: Krum here. Again, I really do think that there is value, uh, Keady, 1150 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know, I'm sorry. I just 1151 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 5: think that Casara's we've seen everything from him. I don't 1152 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 5: think there's anything that's going to be different. And with Kroum, 1153 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 5: I'm curious to see where he's at. I don't think 1154 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 5: ca Sarah's should be that big of a favorite over 1155 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 5: anybody after a with a certain level and his his 1156 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 5: win over Rosalt Roberts was really impressive, and I kind 1157 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 5: of see the same thing happening here, So I'll take 1158 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,760 Speaker 5: the underdog also here in Kroo. 1159 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,319 Speaker 6: Ken Fler, what do you think Casarah's has won three 1160 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 6: in a row show in a pretty good form of late. 1161 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 2: Uh, I'll keep it short. Yeah, you know, listen. I 1162 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 2: do think Cassara's, you know, has shown improvement, but I 1163 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 2: don't think it's enough to say that, you know, uh, 1164 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 2: he deserves you know, this kind of line over Krum. 1165 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 2: I think Kroum could definitely win this fight. I think 1166 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 2: he's gonna be a problem for Sara's a little bit, 1167 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 2: and I'm going to go with Krum as well. 1168 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,959 Speaker 6: All right, next up at Banam. Wait, you guys made 1169 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 6: this pick A couple of weeks ago. Jimmy Rivera minus 1170 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,359 Speaker 6: won forty five Pedro Munos plus one twenty five. There 1171 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 6: was a positive COVID nineteen test on the Rivera side, 1172 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 6: so this one gets a few week delay. First meeting 1173 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 6: between these two twenty fifteen, it was Jimmy Rivera by 1174 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 6: split decision. 1175 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:31,879 Speaker 2: Ken Flow will. 1176 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 6: Lead with you here, Rivera, Munos, which way you're going 1177 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:35,320 Speaker 6: in the rematch? 1178 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Rivera here. Listen. I think both 1179 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 2: these guys have the ability to knock the other out. 1180 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 2: I to think that Rivera hit a little bit harder, 1181 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,240 Speaker 2: and I just haven't seen the adjustments for Munos. BuNos 1182 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 2: puts himself in the line of fire way too much 1183 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 2: for my liking. It's brave, it's courageous, but I think 1184 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 2: against a guy like Munos, it could get himself hurt there. 1185 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 2: And listen, he can knock out Rivera as well, but 1186 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 2: I like Rivera. 1187 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 6: Here, jim and Rivera the picture click for Ken Flow 1188 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 6: Ian So I see you navigating a familial situation. What's 1189 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 6: going on? Are you talking to your dogs, your children, 1190 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 6: your wife? What are you? 1191 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 7: Uh? 1192 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,799 Speaker 6: You're double dipping right now? What's going on there at 1193 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 6: home in Parkland? 1194 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,399 Speaker 5: I thought we talked about not acknowledging when I'm trying 1195 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 5: to be on you and trying to be as incog 1196 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 5: you know, as possible. Yeah, the dog's a little xenile 1197 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 5: side and I think he slept like three days straight. 1198 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 5: Of course he just wakes up and barks at the door, 1199 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 5: so I was trying to get him to right. Thanks 1200 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 5: for acknowledging that, though. 1201 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,840 Speaker 6: How many dogs do you have? How many dogs do 1202 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 6: you have? 1203 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 7: Free? 1204 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,359 Speaker 6: All right, next week or whenever you're back on the show, 1205 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 6: presumably next week, can we have Thanos on camera to 1206 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 6: show the world how many pounds does Stanos way? 1207 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 5: Now? He's one hundred and between one fifteen oh one 1208 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 5: twenty on his hind legs, he's about five eight craz 1209 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 5: and he's nine months today, so yeah, he'd. 1210 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 7: Been nine months. 1211 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 5: He's a big dude. He's a big dude. 1212 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 6: Unbelievable. Yeah, all right, Rivera Munyos. You picked Jimmy Rivera 1213 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago. 1214 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 2: You like him? 1215 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 7: Again, I do, and I'll keep it quick. 1216 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 5: I just think that output his volume is going to 1217 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 5: outweigh the counter striking that Pedro does. 1218 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 7: He mixed too much. 1219 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 5: I think that was also why he lost Frankie. And 1220 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 5: I just like what Jimmy did in his last fight. 1221 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 5: If he does what he did and uses the CAF 1222 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 5: kick and he just comes forward, I think he'll have 1223 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 5: success and he'll get the win. I think Rivera is 1224 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 5: somebody who can bounce back from his losses besides that 1225 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 5: last win, and really still get to the top. I 1226 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 5: really believe that. 1227 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 6: I thought Jami Rivera looked great against Cody Staman on 1228 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 6: Fight Island, and I do believe now he's sort of 1229 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 6: liberated by the lack of contention. Not that he's not 1230 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 6: in the mix, but I just think he's fighting looser 1231 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 6: and not worried about preserving a winning streaker. Being eighteen 1232 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 6: or nineteen and one or whatever he was for so long. 1233 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 6: So excited to see that fight. Cole main event. Ken 1234 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 6: Flow is going to lead the dance here. A lot 1235 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 6: of people are excited about this fight, and rightfully so. 1236 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 6: Two finishers Maga Unklev minus three twenty five, Nikita Krilov 1237 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 6: plus two sixty five, Kenny, we will take the round 1238 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 6: the method of victory, all that noise. So this division 1239 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 6: is very interesting. Right now, you got the Daugastan born Anklive, 1240 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 6: he's won five straight, bunch of bonuses already in his 1241 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 6: six UFC fights. He's fourteen and one overall. And then 1242 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 6: Nikita Krilov, also twenty eight years old, twenty fights, over 1243 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 6: five hundred for his career, a bunch of finishes for him. 1244 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 6: What do you think about this one? Ken flow Krilov 1245 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 6: plus two sixty five Unklab minus three twenty five. Who 1246 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 6: you got? 1247 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't be surprised to see Krilov try 1248 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 2: to take this fight to the ground, but I don't 1249 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 2: think he's going to find much success there. 1250 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 6: I'm leaning the. 1251 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 2: Way of Uncliev. I'm not sure if if it's going 1252 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 2: to be a finish of the first round or second, 1253 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 2: but I think Uncle Liav is something special. Let's go 1254 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 2: with the second round knockout. 1255 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 6: Second round TKO from Magamet Uncliev. My twin bro loves 1256 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 6: this guy too. 1257 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 7: Ian. 1258 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 6: What do you think about uncla here against the seasoned 1259 00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 6: Nikita Krilov. 1260 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 5: Oh I share the same sentiment. 1261 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 6: As Kenny. 1262 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 5: I think anclela is something special. I think we've only 1263 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 5: haven't even seen him come close to where his potential 1264 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 5: can be based on the UH trilogy or rematch with Gulaba, 1265 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 5: whatever it was, I think ancle Liive gets it done. 1266 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 5: I'm going to say round one, I don't think lov 1267 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 5: is even going to come close again. Despite to the 1268 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 5: ground oncle Live. Takedown defense is good, his striking's good, 1269 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 5: he's aggressive. I'm gonna go with him in round one. 1270 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 6: I like the conviction. I don't know if you're uh, 1271 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 6: you're going to back that up with some big noise 1272 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 6: at the window or maybe sprinkle ack Alive in some parlays. 1273 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 6: Minus three twenty five is pretty pretty juicy, all right? 1274 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 6: Main event at heavyweight IP. We'll have you lead us 1275 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 6: off here, if you'd be so kind. Seedo gone minus 1276 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 6: two seventy Jorzenio Rosen strike plus two thirty. So last 1277 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 6: week he and Derek Lewis really took advantage of the 1278 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 6: spotlight it shines on these guys now on Saturday Night, 1279 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 6: gone a near three to one favorite. Here your thoughts 1280 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 6: on the price, the main event and how it's going 1281 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 6: to transpire. 1282 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 2: My man. 1283 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 7: Sorr. 1284 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:56,959 Speaker 2: Are you ready? 1285 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 6: Ian? 1286 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 2: That's okay, man? 1287 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 5: You love if I sneezed the wrong way, john Zy 1288 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 5: and be like, hey no I sneeze. 1289 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 7: It, okay. 1290 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 5: I couldn't mute button. It wasn't on clicking. I'm sorry. 1291 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 5: This dog is insane out here. 1292 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 6: Hey, I just wanted to make sure that you knew 1293 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 6: it was your turn to make a selection, you. 1294 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 5: Know, yeah, yeah, no, no, I'm good. I was investing in 1295 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 5: bitcoin real quick. 1296 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 2: My bad. 1297 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 5: Just terrible joke. I'm sorry. I was trying to be funny. 1298 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 5: It wasn't funny, although Kenny, I didn't do it. Thank you. 1299 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 5: It's good. 1300 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 2: Here you go. 1301 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 5: Look with ganye he could strike, all right, we've seen 1302 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 5: that Roses strikes more dangerous striker, I think. 1303 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 2: But I hate this. 1304 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 6: I'm sorry you you would be lucky if he edits 1305 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 6: this part out. 1306 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 2: I probably you said bitcoin. You said bitcoin was a joke. 1307 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 2: There's nothing funny about investing now. I can't art not. 1308 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 5: That that was a joke. It was a joke, you know, 1309 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 5: all right. I like the favorite here. I do think 1310 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 5: I've seen him use his ground game intelligently, and I 1311 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 5: think with this fight, that's exactly what he needs. 1312 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 3: To do. 1313 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 5: I think Gan, you're gonna win this fight second round submission. 1314 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 2: So all right, ken Flow sidle Gone. 1315 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 6: This an outstanding striker, outstanding tie boxer out of Paris, France. 1316 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 6: Trains under for nand Lopez and alongside n Sardini Mavov, 1317 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 6: who we just saw compete last weekend against Phil Hawes 1318 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 6: seven to zero. On the other side, rosen Strike one 1319 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 6: pro loss came to Francis and Ghano, so two high 1320 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 6: level heavyweights here. Vegas thinks that one guy is much 1321 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 6: better than the other. 1322 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 2: What do you think, listen, I think Cyril Gun is 1323 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 2: going to be able to keep the distance. That's rosen 1324 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 2: Strike's best chances to get on the inside, try to 1325 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 2: land one of those nasty hooks that he has, you know, 1326 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 2: beat him up with his legs from the outside, then 1327 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 2: get on the inside. I don't think he's gonna be 1328 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 2: able to do that. I think Gon's going to be 1329 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 2: able to utilize those long range weapons, keep him on 1330 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 2: the outside, can mix things up with his takedowns. I 1331 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 2: think gone By, let's go referee stoppage round three, little 1332 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 2: referee stoppage form ken Fell round three for sele Gone. 1333 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 6: If you want them all from I and Parker. It's 1334 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 6: at Ian Parker MMA on social media. We'll let you 1335 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 6: get back to it. My brotherpreciate the insight and your 1336 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 6: time as always. 1337 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 5: Thanks guys, Sorry about that. 1338 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 6: That's all right, No, it's truly basic to me. 1339 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 5: This dog sleeps are like twenty three hours out of 1340 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 5: a twenty four hour day, and it only wakes up 1341 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 5: and I rest on the couch for a second or 1342 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 5: I come onto this show. So I'm not giving I'm 1343 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 5: getting bentage before every show. That's what's going to happen. 1344 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 6: So all right, my man, appreciate you. 1345 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 7: Good du guys, got it. 1346 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 6: So I was doing Misha Tate's radio show last weekend 1347 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 6: on Sirius Exam or last week I go on with 1348 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 6: her after all of the pay per views, and we 1349 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 6: were both doing the show from our respective garages. So 1350 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 6: Misha was in the garage because it's the only place 1351 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 6: to get peace and quiet. You know. She has two 1352 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 6: young kids, and I was sort of saying on the interview, 1353 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 6: like it's nice to break away from the chaos and 1354 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 6: just do this fifteen minute interview. They're like, how you doing. 1355 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm doing fucking great. I'm getting a fifteen 1356 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 6: minute break from childcare to do your radio show. I'm 1357 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 6: doing great, but then I was like, yeah, I'm in 1358 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 6: my garage and it is hard in Florida, in Nevada, 1359 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 6: in places where you don't have a basement, like my 1360 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 6: kids are at school right now. I'm good. I don't 1361 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 6: have any dogs, but you know, we need twenty minutes 1362 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 6: for me and Parker. And it's not that I'm shitting 1363 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 6: on the guy on the way out, but it's like 1364 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 6: total fucking chaos at his house every time we try 1365 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 6: to do the show. 1366 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 2: You know, you're not wrong. 1367 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 6: Kenflow's got a young child, but somehow figures out a 1368 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 6: way to get a moment of solitude. All right, dad 1369 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 6: is going to do it for us this week. If 1370 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 6: you want more of the show at florin podcast dot com. 1371 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 6: There's also a store there with a code to get 1372 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 6: ten percent off your merchandise. Ken Flow also has an 1373 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,919 Speaker 6: outstanding YouTube channel that is actually linked to this Antik 1374 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 6: and Floring podcast YouTube channel. A lot of tutorials, instructional videos, 1375 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 6: and you know, generally speaking, more ken flow analytics in 1376 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 6: your life is probably a good thing when it comes 1377 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 6: to mixed martial arts. So we will talk to you 1378 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 6: next Monday. We will be back to recap Rosenstriking Gone, 1379 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 6: and then of course look ahead to that massive championship 1380 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 6: triple header that is coming up quickly. February turns into 1381 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 6: March quickly, folks. Next week is a pay per view 1382 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 6: week and there will be no fewer than three UFC 1383 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 6: Championship belts on the line. Thanks to our executive producer 1384 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,919 Speaker 6: Cody Merraw, thanks to Ray, thanks to Ian for Ken Flum, 1385 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 6: John Anick. We appreciate every last one of you listening, subscribing, 1386 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 6: watching truly and if you have feedback on the show 1387 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 6: fired in at Anti Florian Pod, your wish is our 1388 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 6: command until next week. Don't text and drive, try to 1389 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 6: wear a mask if you think it helps other people 1390 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 6: love you. Militants shield later. 1391 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 8: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we 1392 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 8: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether 1393 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 8: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want to 1394 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 8: seat in Congress by lying to voters. But is that 1395 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,480 Speaker 8: a crime? 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