1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us on this fantastic Thursday 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: across the country. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: You can search us out on virtually any social media 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: app across the entire Internet ecosystem. We are there, Clay 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: Travis buck Sexton, go subscribe and join our army everywhere. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: We've been talking about the big story out there, which 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: is Ron DeSantis prepared to announce his presidential campaign next 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: week write in advance of what would be the Memorial 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: Day holiday Memorial Day weekend. I would bet Buck that 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: he would probably announce on maybe Monday or Tuesday to 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: avoid getting lost in the Memorial Day holiday shuffle. 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: But we will see. 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: That has set off a series of skirmishes between Trump 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: and Dessantis supporters, and also Glenn Youngkin has cannon ballved 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: into the discussion, potentially letting it be known that maybe 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: he's going to enter this race after previously saying that 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: he would not. 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: To what extent? Is that a sign of Trump vulnerability? 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: To what extent? 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: Is that a sign that maybe DeSantis has not locked 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: down the number two spot like many thought. There are 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: a lot of debates that can surround that, and many 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: of you have been weighing in. We'll continue to take 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: your calls eight hundred and two eight two to eight 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: eight two. But there are several other stories going on 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: out there, Bucks, as you break this down, We've got 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: whistleblower hearings going on with the FBI as the fallout 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: from the Durham report continues, we will be discussing that 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: as well. And I thought this was interesting, Buck, the 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: internal collapse of CNN. CNN is now passed by No 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 2: Newsmax recently to actually become the fourth most watched news 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: network out there. 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: And I don't know if. 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: You saw this quote, but Christian amanpur who is I 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: would say, probably the foremost version of what an elite 39 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: journalist would look like, Buck, if you were like just 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: kind of describing someone who would live in this sort 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: of elite journalism universe, even with the accent, even the 42 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: name and everything else they are going after Chris licked 43 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: the head of CNN still for the Donald Trump town hall. 44 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: And I wanted to play this because wouldn't it be 45 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: amazing if CNN ends up the fallout of the town 46 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: hall is going to end up being more consequential for 47 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: CNN executives than it was for Donald Trump. 48 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: Here is cut ten. Listen to this. 49 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: I understand that the town hall a week ago was 50 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: from any an earthquake. Before I came here today, I 51 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 3: met with CNN CEO Chris licked at our New York headquarters, 52 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: and he said the same thing, that it was an earthquake. 53 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: My management believes they did the right thing, a service 54 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: to the American people. I still respectfully disagree with allowing 55 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: Donald Trump to appear in that particular format. We know 56 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: Trump and his tendencies. Everyone does. He just seizes the 57 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: stage and dominates. No matter how much flak the moderator 58 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: tries to aim. For me, I would have dropped the 59 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: mic at nasty person. 60 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: Okay, this is funny. 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: So I think that I'm in a weird position here 62 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: because I've got to stand up for Chris lickt on 63 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: this one. 64 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: I really do. 65 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: What is the alternative to all these CNN snowflakes? I 66 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 4: guess we don't use that term anymore. I don't know why, 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: but you know, all these all the pearl clutching, all 68 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: the oh my gosh, Donald Trump on our on our station. 69 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 4: For give me a break, what are they really going 70 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: to do? And what you see is this is the 71 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: hangover of what CNN did do its audience over the 72 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: course of the Trump presidency, which is just create this 73 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: anti Trump silo of lunacy. All right, most of it 74 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: based on the Russia collusion stuff, although there's a lot 75 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 4: of other there are many other things that they threw 76 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: at Donald Trump as well, And now they have to 77 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: start to in. 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: Order to be a quote. 79 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: News network that is going to cover a presidential election. 80 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: Trump is no longer banned from Twitter, he is no 81 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 4: longer banned from Facebook. He is the leading Republican contender, 82 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 4: and they can hate him as much as they want. 83 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: But you can't consider yourself a news network if you 84 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 4: refuse to allow, in a two party system, the leading 85 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 4: candidate to even appear on your on your channel. Now, 86 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 4: I know they'd say, oh, but in this for what's 87 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 4: the format supposed to be. He's supposed to go in 88 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 4: there and have a bunch of live Biden voters shouted him. 89 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: I know that's what the Democrats would want. But that's 90 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: clearly lunacy and doesn't really serve any purpose. Joe Biden 91 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: would never subject no Democrat would subject themselves to that. Right, 92 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: You're not going to have somebody go on Fox from 93 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: the Democrat side in a room full of right wing 94 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: you know, uh, Fox viewers and just get pummeled for 95 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 4: an hour. 96 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: So what what? 97 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: Alternately, I just think it's kind of funny, you know, 98 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: whether it's Anderson Cooper when he was like, I understand 99 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 4: if you never watch us again, all this hand ringing. 100 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: How can they claim to be a news network, which 101 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 4: they claim. I know it's not reality, but they claim 102 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: if you're not gonna have Trump on Clay, Like, what 103 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: is the where does this go? 104 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: You know, it's such an interesting question because to me, 105 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 2: it ties in buck with the idea of platforming in general. 106 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: And I believe you're gonna hear more and more about 107 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: this if Trump were to be the nominee. The CNNs 108 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: of the world, the MSNBC's of the world, they're all 109 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: going to take a step back and they are going 110 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: to say, we're not even going to cover Donald Trump 111 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: and to a large extent, his lies, because in platforming him, 112 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: we are elevating his popularity. But my perspective on this 113 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: would be, is there anyone out there who doesn't have 114 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: an opinion on Donald Trump at this point? I mean, 115 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: I mean that, honestly, is there a single potential voter 116 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: who would be Yeah, you know, I just I really 117 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: can't make my mind up one way or the other 118 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: about Trump. I would submit to you that that is 119 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: almost nonexistent. And if that is true, then to a 120 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: large extent, what you're doing is just allowing people to 121 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: know what Trump believes, which is buck. One of the 122 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: arguments that we've had that I think is so fascinating 123 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: and I haven't really heard a great answer, is you 124 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: know this idea of taking Trump off of Twitter, to 125 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: your point he can now come back. I think it 126 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: actually benefits Trump because I don't think Trump needs more 127 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: ways to reach his audience, and I think Twitter often 128 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: plays to the worst version of Trump, which was I'm 129 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: just going to fire off some inflammatory tweet, and I 130 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: don't know that he gained substantially in terms of his support, 131 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: and I think it allowed him to be sometimes the 132 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: bull in the china shop and instead of recognizing that 133 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: he was right in the end result, a lot of 134 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: times the things that he broke along the way got 135 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: the attention, not the end result, and so I'm not 136 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: sure that it benefits him, but in general, and I 137 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: made the same argument with our show buck remember when 138 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: they took down our interview with Donald Trump from Bedminster 139 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: on YouTube and they took down our interview with Ran 140 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: Paul because they didn't like what those guys said to us. 141 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: Democracy requires that you be able to hear every opinion, 142 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: ideally from the people that you're considering voting for. Deciding 143 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: that you don't believe a political candidate should be able 144 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: to be heard is actually a monster threat, and that, 145 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: to me is what CNN is angling towards with the 146 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: way the response to this Trump town hall is coming. 147 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: Out democracy and yes, we're in a republic. Not to 148 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: get confused for anybody out there who wants the distinction, 149 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 4: to be very clear, but democracy requires free and open 150 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: exchange of ideas and understanding the positions of opposing parties 151 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 4: in order to function. Democrats, the Democrats of today require 152 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 4: ignorance of the position of their opponents, because if they 153 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: had to actually engage with the ideas that Republicans have 154 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: a lot of their belief system would feel a whole 155 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 4: lot more shaky. So this is what's happened is you 156 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: have Democrats have under the in the Trump era, which 157 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 4: I think we are still in stretching back to twenty 158 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: fifteen until today, Democrats have been increasingly convinced that they 159 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: don't even have to engage with the fifty percent of 160 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 4: the country that would vote for Trump again and or 161 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 4: still support you know, is pleased with what he did 162 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 4: as president and would vote for him again. They want 163 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: what they got into, which was booted off the internet, 164 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 4: effectively kicked off the social media channels, can't even air 165 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 4: him on different you know, different networks or can't put 166 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: them on different shows, and you know, they want Trump 167 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 4: untouchable again, and that's not going to happen. 168 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: Now. 169 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: That's why I think not to transition into this whole 170 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 4: other discussion. But when they realize that the deeplatforming won't work, 171 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: that's when the unfreedoming or incarceration discussion, I think gets 172 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 4: a whole lot more prominent with Democrats, as in, they 173 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: want to lock him up. If they can't shut him up, 174 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: they want to lock him up, which you might have 175 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:43,359 Speaker 4: seen Clay stories percolating again about Jack Smith and the documents, 176 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 4: and now they're saying National Archives is going to present 177 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: documents that show Trump knew what he was doing with 178 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: the documents was illegal. I'm just reporting what they are reporting. 179 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 4: I don't even know what's in this. But maybe I've 180 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: thought all along that they're going to go for the 181 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 4: insurrection charge against Trump and the federal at the federal level. 182 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 4: Maybe it really does turn into the documents. As I've 183 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: said before, possession document cases. This can be an is 184 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 4: or is not situation. Maybe they think that's their stronger hand, 185 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: or it could be a combination thereof. But with each 186 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 4: passing day, I'm more sure. Look at the CNN audience, 187 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 4: what do you think, Clay, the CNN audience if pulled, 188 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: if it came to not even Trump's already being prosecuted 189 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 4: in New York, we know, if it came to actually 190 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 4: locking up Donald Trump before he could become president again, 191 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: what percent of the CNN audience do you think would 192 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: say absolutely seventy five Yep, I was gonna say eighty. Yeah, 193 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 4: that's what we're dealing with. I think it's a monster percentage. 194 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 4: And by the way, at least that much on the 195 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 4: MSNBC audience as well. And I think that's why the 196 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: ultimate question surrounding Trump and all the legalities. So far, 197 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 4: the charges have strengthened Trump's hand in the Republican primary, 198 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: while I think lessening his appeal in the national electorate. 199 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 4: There was a study out buck that said, hey, what 200 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: is the cost? Because a lot of you out there 201 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: are aware of this conversation, they said, what did the 202 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: argument that twenty twenty was stolen due to the voting 203 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: share that Republicans got in the nation? And the argument is, 204 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 4: I read a great kind of breakdown that it was 205 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 4: a two and a half or three point basically swing 206 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: in terms of favor of Democrats. Right, that arguing that 207 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: twenty twenty election was stolen cost you about two and 208 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: a half or three points, which in a. 209 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: Close race is seismic. 210 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: Right, It's the difference in Arizona, in Georgia, in all 211 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: these states. That that was basically the cost, as it 212 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: were the tax. 213 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: Maybe you could even put that on the. 214 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: Electorate is there's about two and a half or three 215 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: percent of the electorate that would otherwise vote Republican. That 216 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: is so troubled and frankly infuriating to both you and 217 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: me that this would be the case. But they get 218 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: about a two and a half or three point win 219 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: when they focus on January sixth, when they focus on 220 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. So if they get a two and a 221 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: half or three point win in the mid terms, I 222 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: would think it would be at least as much buck 223 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: in the general election in twenty twenty four, because you 224 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: know the playbook that they're going to run. Now, maybe 225 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: Trump could overcome it, but that is the deficit that 226 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: you're playing with by being focused on twenty twenty. Even if, 227 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: to be fair, you feel and I feel that the 228 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty election was rigged right now to what extent 229 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: I think is a debate worth having. But that is 230 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: a win for Democrats, and I think they're counting on 231 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: that as it pertains to all these potential election charges, 232 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: that that will actually crush Trump's chances in the general election. 233 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: And I think for a lot of people out there, 234 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: maybe they'll start to change their their they'll be willing 235 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: to open up the discussion more about how twenty twenty 236 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 4: was rigged. When Democrats admit that twenty sixteen was not rigged, 237 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: that Trump actually they're. 238 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: Never going to do, by the way, not going to 239 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: be held accountable for. That's the difference. Republicans continue to 240 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: be held accountable for the arguments we make about twenty twenty. 241 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: Democrats got rewards for the lies they told about twenty sixteen. 242 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 4: During Trump's time and office. And we could go on 243 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 4: this forever, and that's why we do a three hour 244 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 4: day show. During Trump's time in office, a majority of 245 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 4: Democrats believe that Russia had changed votes in voting machines. 246 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 4: That's now forgotten, but in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, Democrats 247 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 4: really buy a majority believe that. 248 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: Just so everyone remember, Oh, they care so much about 249 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: the sanctity of elections and the truth. 250 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: Sure they do, Sure they do. We also care about 251 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: safety on the roads. And when I come back, I've 252 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: gotta tell Clay about something apparently a high speed chase 253 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: in New York City straight out of a Born Identity movie, 254 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: and it involved two of Clay's absolute favorites in the 255 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 4: whole world. So we're going to bring this death defying 256 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: tale to you. And also, Clay, we've got to discuss 257 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: the Adidas campaign putting men in women's bathing suits. Now, 258 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 4: this is where we are folks Adidas Global Company that 259 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: they're not backing off it. We're gonna have to talk 260 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: about it. We'll get to that in just a few minutes. 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Prince Harry and Megan Markle she 296 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: is not princess, right, we don't. 297 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: Actually, she is not a prince. 298 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: He is not a princess, well, I mean not at 299 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 4: least a monarchy style princess. She and Harry say that 300 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: they had a chaotic night in Manhattan, where I was 301 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: my hometown, where they were in a high speed car chase, 302 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 4: and of course they're saying unmistakably evocative of the car 303 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: chase that killed Princess Diana twenty six years ago. The 304 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: paparazzi chasing them all over Manhattan. But Clay, I have 305 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 4: good news for you. The problem with a high speed 306 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: car chase in Manhattan is that you're lucky if you 307 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: can sustain speeds of fifteen miles an hour for more 308 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 4: than about a minute and thirty seconds, and even that 309 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: is unlikely if you're going anywhere through midtown. So this 310 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: seemed to be a low speed chase, stoplight to stop light, 311 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: and even the NYPD has weighed in on it. 312 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: So your two favorites, Megan and Harry are safe. 313 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: They were caught in what appears to be a lie. 314 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: They were in a high speed chase, yet they were 315 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: able to be pursued by people on bikes and on scooters, 316 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: And dare I say, Buck, that's great potentially even on 317 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: your your version of the scooter. You lived in New 318 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: York City for most of your life. Is it even 319 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: possible to be in a two hour high speed chase 320 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: in Manhattan? 321 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: Like two hour high speed? 322 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 4: That's how well they the process took like they just 323 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: meant that people were tailing them, which that's not a 324 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 4: high speed chase, meaning people are following them around, and 325 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 4: that's pretty easy to do. In Manhattan because everyone's you're 326 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: stopping at red lights all the time and traffic and 327 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 4: double park cars. If they were able to do a 328 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 4: high speed chase for two hours, I want to see 329 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 4: the go pro cam because that would be amazing. And 330 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 4: we're talking about, you know, life flashing before their eyes 331 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: as they almost you know, squashed delivery guys all over 332 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 4: the place. 333 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I think she's awful. 334 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: And I feel bad in some way for Prince Harry 335 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: because she is I think destroyed his life in many ways. 336 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: Also, just pose for the paparazzi. I don't get this either. 337 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: Your dress super nice a charity event, buck, No one 338 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 2: cares get your picture. 339 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: They just pretend to not want it. Clay, That's the 340 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: whole thing. I just I don't get it. 341 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: Leave it to our friends at pure Talk to deliver 342 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: on the best value proposition when it comes to a 343 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: cell phone service deal. Only pure Talk will give you 344 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: a free five G Samsung Galaxy phone along with a 345 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: great plan. 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We're going to get to some of 362 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: your calls, by the way, before we finished the second 363 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: hour here scheduled to be joined by Daniel Cameron, the 364 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: Attorney General of Kentucky, who is now the nominee for 365 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: the Republican Party to take on Governor Bashir, the Democrat 366 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: governor in the state of Kentucky. We'll discuss that upcoming 367 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: campaign with him November. Obviously, not a ton of elections 368 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: that are going on, the Kentucky Governor's race will be 369 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: one of those that stands out as a very significant 370 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: arbiter on what we may be expecting going forward. But Buck, 371 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: I wanted to play some of this for you. Obviously 372 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: you've got a CIA background, but the FBI in particular, 373 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 2: or I guess the CIA two over the fifty one 374 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: intelligence agents who signed, but in particular the FBI, in 375 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: the wake of the Durham Report has been under siege, 376 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: and Jim Jordan wanted everybody out there who was testifying 377 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 2: to know that you will be targeted. Democrats are going 378 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: to come after you if you decide to speak out 379 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: and tell the truth. Let's listen to cut one our friend, 380 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: Democrat Congressman from Ohio, Jim Jordan, laying it out. 381 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 6: Three of those brave whistleblowers and a lawyer who represents 382 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 6: them will tell us their story. They will tell us 383 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 6: what happened, what they saw, and then what happened to 384 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 6: them because they were courageous enough to report. 385 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: It to Congress. 386 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 6: Nice want to tell you guys, get ready, get ready, 387 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 6: because these guys are going to come after you. 388 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: You know they are. 389 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 6: Last yearing we had we had two journalists Democrats, two 390 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 6: Democrat journalists set right where you guys did, and these 391 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 6: guys tried to get them to divulge their sources. Someone 392 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 6: needs to tell them how the First Amendment works. And 393 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 6: while mister Tayabe, one of those award winning journalists setting 394 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 6: right where you're setting, was testifying, guess what else was happening. 395 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 6: The irs was knocking on his door. So get ready. 396 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: You have never seen clay bureaucracy move with the speed 397 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: and ferocity it does, as when there's someone from the 398 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: inside who's trying to go to Congress and say something 399 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: fouls happening where I work. True with the FBI, it 400 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 4: is true at the CIA, and we have all these 401 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 4: people that well we tell people that they have whistleblower protections, 402 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 4: but hmmm, not so much, because what ends up happening 403 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 4: is the agencies involved will sure, you can go testify 404 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 4: before Congress, but they'll remember and six months later or 405 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: eighteen months later or whatever you know, then they decide 406 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 4: they're going to go through your time in attendance reports. 407 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: Then they decide, hey, did you have any unauthorized contact 408 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 4: with a journalist at a cocktail party? Then they decide 409 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: to polygraph you or look at whether they're going to 410 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: pull your clearance. They act like internally the Stazi of 411 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 4: East Germany when it comes to any threat to the 412 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 4: federal bureaucrats purview. And you have to also understand that 413 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: the Democrat donations from these places show you what's happened. 414 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: They are not entirely but largely now party organs, and 415 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 4: that's reflected in what we saw with Komey and McCabe 416 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 4: and all these guys who went after Trump. So I'm 417 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 4: hopeful that this information will get out there about the 418 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 4: whistleblowers and will at least get it on the record. 419 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 4: But I think it goes to show you that anyone 420 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 4: who thinks that these places can wash their own laundry 421 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 4: doesn't know how they actually function and also how corrupted 422 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: they've become internally, not just as a function of leadership, 423 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 4: but as a function of culture. And I know this 424 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: from people who have recently left CIA who talked to 425 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 4: me about this. I know people still inside who tell 426 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 4: me what's going on. And same thing with the FBI, 427 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 4: and not as plugged in there, but similar stories. I 428 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 4: know some FBI agents. So I think that people should 429 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: know this. But it's a long term problem we're trying 430 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: to fix here, and you need someone. As I was saying, 431 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 4: I was it yesterday. You need somebody who understands how 432 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 4: these places function in order to clean them up. Because 433 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: we can't even abolish the TSA. We're going to abolish 434 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: the FBI. And it's nice, it's a nice SoundBite. I'm 435 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 4: with it, but you know, fool me once can't get 436 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: fooled again. I remember when people were telling me they're 437 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 4: going to bolish the IRS a few years ago. That 438 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 4: didn't happen. 439 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And also, I think we had a great call 440 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: if you remember from a twenty seven year FBI veteran 441 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: down in Florida earlier this week. It's important to note 442 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: that you can and he said ninety percent of FBI 443 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: agents are good dudes and gals just trying to catch 444 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 2: bad guys. But at the top of the FBI, I 445 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: don't think there's any doubt at all that the head 446 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: of the FBI is rotten and has become a very 447 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: political based organization. And let's listen to this. By the way, 448 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: Garrett O'Boyle, he says, bad guys are running parts of 449 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: the government. This is an FBI whistleblower. This is what 450 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: he testified. To listen to cut to you're. 451 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 7: Starting to defend this country from enemies both foreign and domestic, 452 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 7: even if that means sacrificing my life. My oath, however, 453 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 7: did not include sacrificing the hopes, dreams, and livelihood of 454 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 7: my family in weaponized fashion. The FBI allowed me to 455 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 7: accept orders to a new position halfway across the country. 456 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 7: They allowed us to sell my family's home. They ordered 457 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 7: me to report to the new unit when our youngest 458 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 7: daughter was two weeks old. 459 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: Then on my first. 460 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 7: Day on the new assignment, they suspended me, rendering my 461 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 7: family homeless. They refused to release our goods, including our clothes. 462 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 8: For weeks. 463 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 7: All I wanted to do was serve my country by 464 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 7: stopping bad guys and protecting the innocent. To my chagrin, 465 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 7: bad guys have begun running parts of the government, making 466 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 7: it difficult to continue to serve this nation and protect 467 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 7: the innocent. 468 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: This is where we are, Buck, and I mean, that's 469 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: difficult to hear that testimony. But I hope that we've 470 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 2: been talking, and we'll take some of these calls to 471 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: close out the hour. We've been talking. Buck a great 472 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: deal about the Republican primary. I hope that the Republican 473 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 2: candidates who want to be the nominee in twenty twenty 474 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: four will discuss what they will do to fix our FBI, 475 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: to fix frankly, our military. The leadership of the military, 476 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: the FBI, and the CIA has got to change in 477 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: order for the culture to truly be adjusted. 478 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 4: It's about leadership, culture, mission, and honestly also having a 479 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 4: really clear framework of what's acceptable and unacceptable behavior, and 480 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 4: that goes to all those other issues as well. I 481 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 4: think it's worth everybody being reminded of the fact that 482 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: this isn't even some of these whistleblowers. You just heard 483 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 4: that guy and I'm here in this I'm going, yep, 484 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 4: that's what they do. You know they do in the NYPD, 485 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 4: and I know we got a lot of current and 486 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 4: former NYPD you listen to the show. If they if 487 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: you get on the wrong side of your superiors, they 488 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 4: give you something called the highway therapy. Highway therapy is 489 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 4: when they figure out where you live and the precinct 490 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 4: that is the absolute furthest from that and assign you 491 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 4: to that precinct. That means now, instead of your commute 492 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 4: maybe being twenty minutes or thirty minutes of the morning, 493 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: I mean, if you get sent out to far rockaway 494 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 4: and you live in you know, the North Bronx. You're 495 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 4: timid in about an hour and a half to get 496 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: to work every day. Right, So there's a whole range 497 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: of ways that they punish people. On the whistleblowers that 498 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 4: we're talking about here, some of them this wasn't about Trump. 499 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 4: I want everyone to understand that this wasn't about Trump. Necessarily, 500 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 4: some of it was. But in some cases, these whistleblowers 501 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 4: came forward because the Biden DOJ was targeting parents who 502 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 4: were concerned at school board meetings and treating them in 503 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: memos as though they are a domestic terrorism threat. Oh 504 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 4: you showed up to school because you know, little Bobby 505 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 4: and Little Sarah were being masked up in the first 506 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 4: grade after having their school shut down for eighteen months. 507 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 4: Maybe you're a domestic terrorist. That's what Merrick Garland and 508 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 4: his goons think of you. So I think everyone has 509 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 4: to understand that this isn't even This is way beyond 510 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 4: just even the weaponization against Trump, which has also been 511 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 4: a very real thing. 512 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talked about this too. When you send 513 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: the message that domestic extremism and white supremacy are the 514 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: biggest threats to our country. Then you're gonna get all 515 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 2: of these people who want to elevate their job. They're 516 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 2: gonna go find those criminals. And the sad thing is 517 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 2: you can find just about every single one of you 518 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: out there listening to. 519 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: Us right now. If a dragnet was. 520 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: Put on your life, they could find something that you 521 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: have done in your time, maybe a tax return, maybe 522 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 2: it's something that was involved in some sort of business 523 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: that you were associated with. If you get the full 524 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: car wash treatment from a federal agency and investigation, fuck 525 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: you know this, they can find you having violated some law. 526 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: Almost every single one of us out there would not 527 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 2: be completely clean if they put you through the car 528 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: wash and tried to decide whether or not to throw 529 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 2: the book at you. 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That's LifeLock dot Com promo code Clay. 555 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 7: The Clay and Buck podcast deep dives with cool content 556 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 7: surprise guests. 557 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: Get it all on the iHeart app or wherever you 558 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. 559 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. 560 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna get your calls in just a moment. 561 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: Also, Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron, fresh off his win 562 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 4: for the Republican nomination for governor in Kentucky, will be 563 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: joining us in just a few minutes. We'll be talking 564 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: to him about well, the whole range of things, and 565 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: also we're gonna get your calls in a second here. 566 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: But first, some of you, some of you may already know, 567 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 4: automakers are at least some of them, taking AM radios 568 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 4: out of new cars and trucks. This provides a grave 569 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 4: threat to all disaster responses and relief efforts. Why AM 570 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 4: radio is the most reliable form of communication during the 571 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 4: worst conditions. With its broad coverage, power goes out, selling 572 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 4: internet goes down, AM is almost always the last one standing, 573 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 4: and it's the cornerstone of the national public warning system. 574 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 4: This is not just about alerting the public, but rather 575 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 4: out letting Americans have a place to go to get trustworthy, 576 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: life saving information before, during, and after a crisis. Americans 577 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 4: need real time information on what neighborhoods are at risk 578 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 4: and where they can go for help if they need to. 579 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 4: Coverage on disasters has saved lives. We're talking about things 580 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: like wildfires in California, trained to railmen in Ohio, tornadoes 581 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: and Oklahoma hurricanes on the East coast. AM radio is 582 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: free and it isn't dependent on having a power company 583 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 4: keeping a transmitter running. Help us do something to stop this. 584 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 4: Text AM to five two eight eight six and tell 585 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 4: Congress we need AM radio in cars and trucks again. 586 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: Text AM to five two eight eight six and the 587 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: Congress keep a m in those cars and trucks and 588 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 4: get more info. A Clayandbuck dot com uh and mister Clay. 589 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 4: We have I believe a number of calls up now, 590 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: John in Bangor Maine. I want to go up to Maine. 591 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 4: I haven't been a while. What's going on, John? 592 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 8: Hey, how's the going guy? 593 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: We're doing fantastic. We're good, sir, good good. 594 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 8: You guys are doing a lovely job, you know, taking 595 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 8: over Russ's spot there. I've listened to him since I 596 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 8: was in middle school. My dad worked for the government 597 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 8: and was a big Rush Limbaugh fan. And I was 598 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 8: calling in because you guys were talking about Trump and 599 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 8: DeSantis and Honestly, I worked on the George W. Bush 600 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 8: campaign back in oh four and voted for him back 601 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 8: in oh four, and after him, I was a Ron 602 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 8: Paul guy, uh, through and through until I found Trump. 603 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 8: And I've been loyal to Trump ever since. And I 604 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 8: did live in Florida for a little bit under Jeb 605 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 8: Bush and Rick Scott, and I didn't get to experience 606 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 8: Florida under Ron de Sandus. But from what I've read 607 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 8: of him from multiple sources, he's in bed with the 608 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 8: globalists and. 609 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 4: He's what does that mean? What does that mean? What 610 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 4: does it mean to be in bed with the globalists? 611 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 4: If I if I can just ask you to elucidate 612 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: that one a little bit more. 613 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 8: Well, you've got people like, you know, the guy's running 614 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 8: like Carl Schwab, George Soros, the Rothschild family. 615 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 4: But what is that if you're Ron de Santis doesn't 616 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 4: He's not affiliated with any of them, is he? 617 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: But what am I missing? 618 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 8: Well, George Soros actually is backing him. 619 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: No, Look, I appreciate the call. 620 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: Look I'm going to hang up with people just throw 621 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: out like crazy day like George Soros does not want 622 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis to be president of the United States. 623 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: All right, Like that is one hundred percent of falsehood. 624 00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: Now what's interesting to me, Buck is DeSantis is actually 625 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: running to the right of Trump. So like the globalist 626 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: rhino thing, I don't buy into. On the right of Trump, 627 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: I think that if you were Trump and you want 628 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: to attack DeSantis, I think you can attack. And we 629 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: talked a little bit about this on the six week 630 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: Abortion band in in Florida. Trump is despite the fact 631 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: that Trump appointed the three justices that overturned Roe v. 632 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: Wade and brought us Dobbs, Trump. 633 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: Is actually running to the left of DeSantis on abortion. Right, 634 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: He's saying, hey, I'll try to figure out something that works. 635 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the corporate power, and you know, with regard 636 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 4: to Disney, and also wanted the bud Light boycott to 637 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 4: end sooner. Yeah, Don Junior called for it to end sooner. 638 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 4: But I think Trump Senior has also come out for 639 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 4: end sooner. So these are just statements of the facts 640 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 4: as they lie right or as they are right now. 641 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: You can prefer Trump. But the idea that George Soros 642 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: wants DeSantis is crazy talk like that is not true. 643 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: And by the way, I never would have thought that 644 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: we would have a debate going on on Puerto Rico. 645 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: By the way, Buck, we do. I know, we got 646 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: fired up. 647 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 4: We got Jeff in Tallahassee, Florida wants to throw down 648 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 4: over the Puerto Rico issue with the call from an 649 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 4: hour ago. Jeff, Yes, the line is yours, sir, go 650 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 4: for it all. 651 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 5: Right, Thank you, appreciate you taking my call. And my 652 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 5: wife is Puerto rican I'm a one eighth state of 653 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 5: American Tallahassee, Florida, member of the Tama Tribal and Wickham, 654 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 5: Georgia right up the road from Tallahassee. But anyway, long 655 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 5: make it short. Puerto Rico for its independence in this 656 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 5: Spanish American War with Roosevelt. Her great grandfather fault for 657 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 5: the Spanish American War. For Puerto Rico's independence. Her grandfather 658 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 5: served in the Air Force for thirty years. If Puerto 659 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 5: Rico was the forcoma state, I think that should be 660 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 5: left up to our elected officials to make that recommendation. 661 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 5: And I feel like they should become a state for 662 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 5: you know, they Faultford or independence with the United States 663 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 5: from Spanish back in the late eighteen hundreds. I'm out 664 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 5: here working. I'm a truck driver, so I'm trying to 665 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 5: hurry up and get stuff off the truck. 666 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 8: No. 667 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: Look, anyway, we appreciate everybody out there working while they 668 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 2: listen to us. Buck and I the Puerto Rico statehood 669 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: I did not have on the BINGO card for debate 670 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: topics from callers today when we sat down to do 671 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: the show. 672 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean Puerto Rico. 673 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 4: I believe they first of all, they have US passports 674 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 4: and are considered US citizens. That the challenge for Puerto 675 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 4: Rico on the statehood side of things, well, there's a 676 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 4: number of challenges, but one of them would be and 677 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 4: let's be clear, Congress has added states. I know where 678 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 4: we've gotten really used to fifty. But it's a different 679 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 4: issue than with Washington, d C. Which is supposed to 680 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 4: be a federal protectorate and I don't think that there's 681 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 4: a constitutional basis to change that. But Puerto Rico doesn't 682 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 4: pay federal income tax. 683 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 2: It's always been a mess, Buck, because you know, I 684 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: lived in the US Virgin Islands an attorney in both 685 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: the State of Tennessee and the US Virgin Islands. There's 686 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 2: a lot of territorial law, and this is getting really 687 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: into the nitty gritty of constitutional history, territorial law for 688 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 2: places like the US Virgin Islands, for places like Puerto 689 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: Rico are very different historically than states. Now, They've had 690 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: different referendums over the years on statehood. Puerto Rico is 691 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 2: struggling as an economy right now, so many people, as 692 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 2: you mentioned, have moved. There's a million Puerto Ricans in 693 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 2: the state of Florida. They're all over New York where 694 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: you grew up, and so this has been a challenging 695 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: issue for decades. But I don't think again it's going 696 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 2: to decide the Republican primary between Trump and DeSantis. I 697 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: don't think it's going to come down to what their 698 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 2: stance is on Puerto Rico statehood. 699 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 4: Just we's going to have a G. Cameron, Attorney General 700 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 4: Cameron of Kentucky with us next stick around.