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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Nick
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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. Day, Nick here, what day is it?
Speaker 1: Never wrote Chris fifteen weeks of the season. They've got
Speaker 1: it on time. Finally, Hey, he's he's a late bloomer man,
Speaker 1: but I like it. He's good. But he has the
Speaker 1: same philosophy as coach McCarthy. They remember when you get
Speaker 1: to ten wins, Now you can start talking fight song Monday,
Speaker 1: fight song Friday. And the Cowboys with ten wins on
Speaker 1: the season in command and the NFC East with a
Speaker 1: chance to clinch the division. Mickey Spagnola Tomorrow night when
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles and the Washington football team tie, got
Speaker 1: a Goolnick in the publication. That's the only way I
Speaker 1: figured out that that has a point four percent chance
Speaker 1: of happening. Point four. So you're telling me there's a
Speaker 1: chance point four point four because there's been one tie
Speaker 1: this year in two hundred and eight games. Well, so
Speaker 1: that's it. That's that means we're due for a time,
Speaker 1: due for a tie? Absolutely? The uh the what is
Speaker 1: it the saying that you always have about in the NFL,
Speaker 1: the more you win and lose, the closer yard of time.
Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah, stuff is my fucking brain. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say that about that. While in running the marathon, there's
Speaker 1: been a winner and a loser in two hundred and
Speaker 1: seven games, Beach were closer to a tie? Real, why
Speaker 1: not tomorrow night when Washington plays Philadelphia. I've been hanging
Speaker 1: around you guys way too long. We got a doubleheader
Speaker 1: Monday night and a well sort of a doubleheader Tuesday.
Speaker 1: There were games we playing at the same time on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: That's right, So can we watch both of them? You
Speaker 1: can tonight tonight now I'm probably at a local sports bar.
Speaker 1: You could watch both tomorrow night maybe. Oh so they
Speaker 1: are both on Fox, both on Fox. So if I
Speaker 1: have two TVs, I can watch them. Well, you've got
Speaker 1: to be able to get your in the Central time zone.
Speaker 1: You'll be getting that feed and then you can pirate
Speaker 1: another one. Maybe. But let's get to the story of
Speaker 1: the day, and that is your Dallas Cowboys have ten
Speaker 1: wins they are ten and four right now, a three
Speaker 1: and a half game lead in the NFC East and
Speaker 1: all as well. Right as far as I'm concerned, it is.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a bunch of folks out there that
Speaker 1: don't like how the Cowboys got to ten winning these
Speaker 1: three consecutive games. But they are at ten, and as
Speaker 1: I'd like to remind people, just go ask Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: if they would have liked to win that game ten
Speaker 1: to nine, right, Go ask Arizona Baltimore and Arizona in
Speaker 1: Tennessee and all these teams that have had close shaves
Speaker 1: and lost. Yeah, you'd rather win. However, you can win
Speaker 1: in these in these close games in December and get
Speaker 1: to ten wins, which is the most wins the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have had, and the second they had ten in twenty
Speaker 1: eighteen won the division. They had thirteen in twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: and won the division, and they had eleven in twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen in one the division. So if you look at
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys have done over the last eight years,
Speaker 1: they've won four division titles or I'm assuming they're gonna
Speaker 1: win this one. That's more than any other team in
Speaker 1: the NFC East during that period of time. So I
Speaker 1: know all the whoe is us? You haven't won a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, But it hasn't been all, you know, just
Speaker 1: a disaster. And how about this? I found this little
Speaker 1: statum during the timeouts the breaks of the game. I
Speaker 1: started researching it. This is you weren't at the game.
Speaker 1: You were at home. I was at home. Are here right? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is like Yes. The last time the Cowboys won
Speaker 1: three consecutive games, all played on the road in a
Speaker 1: single season went three and Ozero nineteen sixty nine. Wow,
Speaker 1: was the last time They've played three consecutive games, week
Speaker 1: by week by week on the road eleven times, and
Speaker 1: only three times have they won them all. This was
Speaker 1: the third. The first was nineteen sixty four, and then
Speaker 1: the second time nineteen sixty nine. Dank, So I couldn't
Speaker 1: do it? Huh no? And eighty three. I believe you
Speaker 1: went two and one with that opportunity. And the last
Speaker 1: time the Cowboys had the opportunity was two thousand and
Speaker 1: six and they went two and one. So you did
Speaker 1: all that research during one timeout, I said, timeouts, that
Speaker 1: was plural. He was he was dogged because he continued
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys dominated. Then the next break, he was continued,
Speaker 1: you picked it back up again, right aft. And I
Speaker 1: believe in this game I was stubborn. I was stubborn
Speaker 1: because I said, you stubborn. I'm surprised to hear that
Speaker 1: I could. I could have easily probably emailed Scott A.
Speaker 1: Goulnick and he's got a stat package so site that
Speaker 1: he can plug stuff in some research. So after I
Speaker 1: did it all, I said, okay, I need backup now
Speaker 1: in case I missed one. There you go, and he
Speaker 1: researched it and that's what came up. So well, it
Speaker 1: was a boring game. Yeah, I love that. I love
Speaker 1: boring games. As a defender. Uh, you know, when we
Speaker 1: played the Flex, we made it way too exciting in
Speaker 1: our secondary. Kind of liked this secondary a bit. We
Speaker 1: made our played that we gave up too many just
Speaker 1: for comfort's sake. When I went to the Giants, we
Speaker 1: were a little bit more defense oriented. You know. It
Speaker 1: was that old school New Jersey type of playing ball
Speaker 1: and those third down stops. As boring as it looked
Speaker 1: on TV, the culture there, it was exciting for the fans.
Speaker 1: But when you're watching a game where the defense is
Speaker 1: just dominating, that boying is what you look forward to
Speaker 1: if it's your defense playing as well as I was
Speaker 1: just playing. I want to talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1: But first off, your three game stretch in nineteen sixty nine,
Speaker 1: I just looked it up. Those were three straight road games, second, third,
Speaker 1: and fourth week of the season against New Orleans, Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: and Atlanta. So were they all backup quarterbacks the Cowboys
Speaker 1: facing those three games? No? But the quarterback who were
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks have been? I've got them for you. New
Speaker 1: Orleans started Billy Kilmer. Billy Kilmer was playing for the scene.
Speaker 1: Probably probably Philadelphia. You probably on crutches, you'll get pill
Speaker 1: you can, you can have a chance of getting Philadelphia's
Speaker 1: quarterback rock close, Okay. In Atlanta's was Randy Johnson. So
Speaker 1: there you go. So those were like three backup quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and no, well yeah, yeah, yeah, yes they were none
Speaker 1: though Billy was gone. Man, you laugh at me about
Speaker 1: playing against Jim Hart. Now you're gonna set up here,
Speaker 1: give him some credit, creditation, give me a break, Okay.
Speaker 1: And so to your point, what was your point ever?
Speaker 1: I was talking about how boring I was. God, I'm
Speaker 1: on it today. You are you are? And I was
Speaker 1: saying the same thing last night. When I was watching
Speaker 1: what New Orleans did to Tampa Bay, a friend at work,
Speaker 1: Nate Tarplay. I said, Nate, you enjoy watching the game
Speaker 1: like this, and he said, yeah, I do. And nine
Speaker 1: nothing defensive game like that. I appreciate every play mate
Speaker 1: that Dennis Allen put together once again against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: And did New Orleans win that game with a backup
Speaker 1: quarterback the same one he's no longer he's no longer
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback, he's down the starter. And they scored
Speaker 1: nine points. So the fact that Cowboys scored twenty seven
Speaker 1: against New Orleans might be of HUC twenty, but yeah, yeah, twenty,
Speaker 1: and that's seven, yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's better than
Speaker 1: zero for the first time fifteen years. I remember, as
Speaker 1: I was watching that game against New Orleans, I wasn't
Speaker 1: as concerned about the Cowboys offense because I thought, that's
Speaker 1: New Orleans defense is playing really well as well, and
Speaker 1: they always have tight coverage. That's what we talked about
Speaker 1: doing the game. That was tight coverage at all time.
Speaker 1: Concerned about the overthrows and weird throws, but the tight
Speaker 1: coverage can make you do that. It will make you
Speaker 1: second guess, especially when the pressure is coming along with that.
Speaker 1: So my point is just appreciate winning, especially in December,
Speaker 1: especially on the road. It's not easy, can't And two
Speaker 1: of the games are division games. I don't care what
Speaker 1: their records are going into the games. It's always tough.
Speaker 1: It's not easy. Cowboys has been able to do that
Speaker 1: in fifty three the first time fifty three seasons. You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't dog that. I mean, people can say what
Speaker 1: they want. I'm not listening listens to is the people
Speaker 1: that talk just like that, because this is what we've
Speaker 1: strived for. You know, we talked about last year and
Speaker 1: the years before, can we just get a win, you
Speaker 1: know when we need one. We've got three. We're in position,
Speaker 1: and we're the best position we've been in in a
Speaker 1: long time. And about a month ago, yeah, we were
Speaker 1: feeling a little shady about that. And let's shake you
Speaker 1: about that. And especially when you look at the rest
Speaker 1: of the NFC and where the Cowboys are sitting right now.
Speaker 1: Forget the division. We'll talk to conference in conference and
Speaker 1: right now number two seed, only Green Bay ahead of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys with three games to go, and with what's
Speaker 1: happened with Arizona really the last seven games of the season.
Speaker 1: It's not just the last couple of weeks with Arizona.
Speaker 1: They are three and four in their last seven games,
Speaker 1: and they've lost DeAndre Hopkins and and there clearly are
Speaker 1: not the same team that they've been. Of course, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are facing them here in two weeks, and so
Speaker 1: when you look at the Cowboys schedule the rest of
Speaker 1: the way, with a Washington team that's going to be
Speaker 1: on a short week and depleted, and then Arizona the
Speaker 1: way they're playing and then closing at Philadelphia, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have a really good chance to finish it. As Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy told the team after the game, they're on this
Speaker 1: upward climb right there, and the trending good chance trending
Speaker 1: to continue that the last and getting that second seed
Speaker 1: is important as well. If you don't get the first
Speaker 1: the second seats, all you have to do is you
Speaker 1: just win. We just keep on winning, uh playing the
Speaker 1: way we're playing. The defense is in playoff mode. And
Speaker 1: the reason they have the second seed right now is
Speaker 1: because they're eight and one in the NFCAT now, so
Speaker 1: there's no top breaker versus Tampa Bay. Then if it's
Speaker 1: a if it's a three way, it's a three way,
Speaker 1: there's not okay, And it is right now, and it's
Speaker 1: a three way tie for second with Dallas, Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: in Arizona, and so Dallas has the tiebreaker for the
Speaker 1: two seed. If the season we're to end right now,
Speaker 1: you go, now, if it comes down to the end,
Speaker 1: and it's somewhat unlikely now since Green Bay's one game ahead,
Speaker 1: but if they but if they did wind up with
Speaker 1: a tie with Tampa Bay for the second seed, Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay would have the two seeds. Yeah, and that is
Speaker 1: likely because Dallas would have beaten Arizona given them another loss.
Speaker 1: And so if if the let's say Tampa Bay and
Speaker 1: Dallas went out, then Tampa Bay is going to end
Speaker 1: green Bay. Green Bay would have a one seed, Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay would have the two seed, in Dallas the three
Speaker 1: seed because Dallas will knock Arizona down. Yeah. So, but
Speaker 1: if Green Bay loses, if Green Bay loses, then and
Speaker 1: then it becomes a three way tie between Green Bay,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, and Dallas, then Dallas would have the advantage
Speaker 1: because they have a better conference record, although only one
Speaker 1: game better than green Bay. I think Green Bay's like
Speaker 1: eight and two and the Cowboys are eighting. Okay, but
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will win out and so though if they
Speaker 1: went out, yeah yeah, so yeah, it's not a bad
Speaker 1: situation as long as you can keep winning. And it's
Speaker 1: not over yet. Three games and we're seeing what's happening
Speaker 1: every time you think, oh, there's Arizona's got this wrapped up, well,
Speaker 1: not too much. Yeah, the Rams got it wrapped up.
Speaker 1: They're looking great. Not so much. It just keeps happening.
Speaker 1: And I know that that, and the Cowboys had it
Speaker 1: wrapped up exactly. We were talking about how the offense
Speaker 1: is carrying the defense at one point at least I was,
Speaker 1: and I was talking about how we're looking at coach
Speaker 1: McCarthy for Coach of the Year. Then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden play yeah, oh man, Then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: things change, and you know what, to have that luxury
Speaker 1: to go through that kind of change and for us
Speaker 1: to be right where we are right now, that's a
Speaker 1: testament to this team overall. I'm not just talking about
Speaker 1: one player, one fast the game. Overall, we're doing well.
Speaker 1: Defense is playing well, of course, but we have just
Speaker 1: a bit cut down on the turnovers. Offensively, we cut
Speaker 1: down on the mistakes, and our turnover ratio was going
Speaker 1: up if I'm not mistaking the last few games. That's
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that kind of keeps you in
Speaker 1: those ugly games, that keep you winning those ugly games.
Speaker 1: Our fourth quarter turnover ratio remains the same on offense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's for a later segment. So here's why
Speaker 1: it was boring. Here's why it was boring. The Giants
Speaker 1: they started Mike Glennon. That's why I was Mike Glennon.
Speaker 1: In sixty one plays, they had three hundred and two
Speaker 1: yards in three plays. Of that three h two, they
Speaker 1: had one hundred and ten. So if you take three away,
Speaker 1: fifty eight plays for one eighty two and then the
Speaker 1: Cowboys give up twenty eight thirty six thirty one plus
Speaker 1: fifteen on a horse collar tackle, which is forty six.
Speaker 1: So three plays ended up with more than a third
Speaker 1: of their yards. And that's how well this defense was planned.
Speaker 1: Had they not had those those three plays they got
Speaker 1: away from them, so pretty impressive. And the fact four
Speaker 1: more takeaways, So how about this, four more takeaways. That's
Speaker 1: three games in a row with four thirty one for
Speaker 1: the season, twenty three interceptions. It dawned on me that
Speaker 1: because I I don't believe in defense wins championships. I
Speaker 1: think you got to score points when you get in
Speaker 1: the playoffs to win. So it was like, Okay, nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy seven the Cowboys won a Super Bowl and that
Speaker 1: defense was pretty darn good. They were number one Doomsday two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were the number one defense. And it's a fourteen
Speaker 1: game season right now, fourteen games right now? You know
Speaker 1: how many takeaways they had that year? Thirty one twenty
Speaker 1: one interceptions? Was that males interception year seventy Probably not
Speaker 1: because they was on that was on his last legs,
Speaker 1: Yeah he was, it was probably. It's probably around the
Speaker 1: time to play the coach. It was the end of
Speaker 1: the sixties. I think he had ten. So now, yeah,
Speaker 1: so twenty three interceptions so far, Digs with ten, meaning
Speaker 1: only three guys in this organization have had double digit interceptions, Digs,
Speaker 1: renten fro and Edwards Walls. He's got one to go. Huh,
Speaker 1: one to go? What did I say? Thirteen? Yeah? What'd
Speaker 1: you say? I thought he'd get eleven. I don't remember
Speaker 1: what you said. Twelve. I think Okay, I think you
Speaker 1: said twelve and that was a pretty sweet interception. I
Speaker 1: didn't think he got it, Oh I did he did, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said by the way, Yeah, by the way. And
Speaker 1: so I was looking at the other way. If that
Speaker 1: was a receiver for the Cowboys, they probably would have
Speaker 1: taken it from us. I was looking at it. But
Speaker 1: if it was a green baby, and that's just kind
Speaker 1: of how I was looking at it, like, man, would
Speaker 1: they give that to a receiver? He caught the ball.
Speaker 1: He hit the ground with the ball in his possession,
Speaker 1: he's down and then the guy swiped it out of
Speaker 1: his hands. I thought they he caught the ball. The
Speaker 1: guy came in late and got it out. But it
Speaker 1: was more than a swipe. It was a tough tussle. UH.
Speaker 1: And I keep I always look at this UH interception.
Speaker 1: This touchdown by UH from Detroit was a big guy's
Speaker 1: name Johnson, John Calvin Johnson. He caught the touchdown. This
Speaker 1: when they first started this crap about that. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: caught the ball and I think it hit the ground
Speaker 1: or something. It was easily. You could tell he had
Speaker 1: it in his control because his hands are huge. And
Speaker 1: they called that back. You remember that they yes, and
Speaker 1: so I always look at that as a worst case scenario.
Speaker 1: So I was just surprised that they gave it to
Speaker 1: him and not to get done uh off of this.
Speaker 1: But speaking of big hands, what about Barkley's catch? You
Speaker 1: saw that? That's crazy? How big all his hands? How
Speaker 1: do you mean? Yeah? What what they happened the end
Speaker 1: of the ball at the back? I mean he swiped
Speaker 1: at it. He did. It's almost like he just swatted
Speaker 1: a fly away like he was. It's like a tennis ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just got a snatch. And but anyway, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I thought, hey, I'm I just I just tried to
Speaker 1: search saquad Barkley. I put Charles Barkley, come on. I
Speaker 1: just thought he completed the catch to the ground before
Speaker 1: the guy knocked it out of his hands. And it
Speaker 1: was a good challenge, Oh, no, doubt good chald I
Speaker 1: was surprised, but pleasantly surprised that they gave us that one.
Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, nine and a half inch hands, which
Speaker 1: that yeah, that's not huge. It is compared to mind,
Speaker 1: you know what he's got. He's got strong hands. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not a measurement of how strong your hands, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so digs three games to go one or what the
Speaker 1: odds are in Vegas on that? Can you get three
Speaker 1: and three games? Sure? Oh? Why not? Backup quarterback Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray will throw it up for you. Will and who
Speaker 1: knows will be starting Jalen Hurts if he gets Jayalen
Speaker 1: the last game and put him on the Heisman Heisman
Speaker 1: guy put him on his teammate. Well, they all teammates,
Speaker 1: the guy that should have been at the Heisman ceremony.
Speaker 1: Cd um. All right, you got our picks to click
Speaker 1: from pigs to click? Yes, Uh, start off with mine,
Speaker 1: which is the closest, by the way, a score wise God,
Speaker 1: every time I try to give us some O mine
Speaker 1: was not the closest score. No, we're going to come
Speaker 1: to you last. Yeah, I had thirty one ten. Score
Speaker 1: was twenty one to nine. Right, Well it's twenty one
Speaker 1: six six six. That's funny. You said nine because I
Speaker 1: did a TV thing and I had to redo it
Speaker 1: because I said twenty one nine for some reason, for
Speaker 1: some reason, I had nine in my mind. So I
Speaker 1: had Javon cursed with ten plus tackles for us fumble.
Speaker 1: None of that happened. He had like six or seven tackles.
Speaker 1: Still had a good game. Uh spags, you were thirty
Speaker 1: four to ten and you pig Parsons. He got an
Speaker 1: assistant tackle. Yeah he did, he did well. He did well.
Speaker 1: Uh side note, Randy Greggy didn't have any tackles. I
Speaker 1: know that's crazy, but he had one back hit. He
Speaker 1: had hit that was very unusing. And Bill William Jones
Speaker 1: had god fifty two to seven. He at least he's
Speaker 1: close with the seven. But he did have digs as
Speaker 1: to as a player and picked a click player and
Speaker 1: he got he had two picks. I had him with
Speaker 1: two picks. Two picks, all right, here was my stick
Speaker 1: on it. Okay. The reason I said fifty two to
Speaker 1: seven was Okay, I had Treyvon was going to get
Speaker 1: two picks to match Everson Wall's record because they're playing
Speaker 1: at the play with what was the two teams that
Speaker 1: two of the three teams at Everson plays, Okay, Dallas
Speaker 1: in New York. And so then I put Everson's number
Speaker 1: twenty four Jersey number and his number twenty eight New
Speaker 1: York number together. That's how I arrived. Yeah, this explanation
Speaker 1: is a waste of time, but you got the jigs
Speaker 1: with one pick and also Diggs had two pass defense,
Speaker 1: so he was he was playing I want I want
Speaker 1: credit for Michael Parson's past coverage. Man, you like that, huh?
Speaker 1: On the play that Anthony Brown got picked off the
Speaker 1: wide receiver and he had Booker and he had the
Speaker 1: foresight to go with Galladay down the field seventeen yards
Speaker 1: into the end and he went quickly. It was defuickly
Speaker 1: step yes, and screened him off what would have been
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass. And I liked him. He saw the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he made the movie and he had hands out very
Speaker 1: exaggerated love. But that was that was pretty sweet. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was impressive. I wish he would have gone off though,
Speaker 1: ye because you know you think, well, I think lt
Speaker 1: was in jail that point yesterday, but uh, I think
Speaker 1: he uh, it would be nice for him to go off,
Speaker 1: you know at the meadow Lands. That would be very cool.
Speaker 1: But they used him in a different somewhat of a
Speaker 1: different role because they had him playing more linebacker and
Speaker 1: passing situations and he was kind of hovering there and
Speaker 1: they had to spy on Glennon yeah, make sure he
Speaker 1: didn't take off on him. I think I do think
Speaker 1: that they were kind of prepping for a more traditional
Speaker 1: role for him on the way out. I think they
Speaker 1: were season I think they were trying to bait him
Speaker 1: into some bad passes too, because they had all those
Speaker 1: other guys going they they had moved bash them inside.
Speaker 1: They moved to Marcus Lawrence inside at times in a
Speaker 1: four man rush. Well, what are your keying on on
Speaker 1: the Giants offense? Probably game Parkley. Yeah, And so there's
Speaker 1: a Penn State guy on a Penn State guy, and
Speaker 1: so he's playing the more tradition in at and T State. Well,
Speaker 1: he got hurt, messed up his ankle and was on
Speaker 1: the play. They went to him. All right, we have
Speaker 1: got to get to a break here. There's so much
Speaker 1: to talk, so much to talk about it, and we
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Speaker 1: Dion was feeling pretty good before the game. He and
Speaker 1: his son did not have a good day, all three
Speaker 1: of many of the two sons. I did not know.
Speaker 1: He had a son that played defensive back as wealth
Speaker 1: in Jackson State. I didn't know. Yeah, so he's he's
Speaker 1: pretty good. But they had a tough one. Yes, Deon
Speaker 1: needed to be at at and T State in the
Speaker 1: stadium recruiting Low South Oak Cliff. And yes there was
Speaker 1: some defense being played in those games. Well, I enjoyed all.
Speaker 1: I watched two games. I didn't watch the Austin game.
Speaker 1: Boston Westlake and didn't guard. Didn't guard put up a
Speaker 1: really good effort against Austin Westlake. It was in fact,
Speaker 1: they had the lead, uh twenty one twenty the third
Speaker 1: quarter and uh Westlake kicker, you know, Justin Tucker kicked
Speaker 1: at Westlake. Yeah, so he pulled it Justin Tucker and
Speaker 1: kicked a fifty three yard field goal that was actually
Speaker 1: the turning point in the game and Westlake one, which
Speaker 1: was Todd Dodge, the outgoing coach. Retiring coach was to
Speaker 1: retire on the south of a career yep, seventh state championship. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But back to South oak Cliffe. I what's the what's
Speaker 1: the coach's name was out the Jason Todd. Jason Todd.
Speaker 1: I went to South oak Cliffe, grew up in South
Speaker 1: oak Cliffe. Yeah, I think he went to Lincoln, but
Speaker 1: his mom, his mom went to South oak Cliffe. And
Speaker 1: he's got a long family history. Maybe his Dadallas, he said, Dallas, Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeahs And And we had talked about it, and it
Speaker 1: was on the air the other day. We were talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, nineteen seventy seven, South Oakliff's basketball team one
Speaker 1: its first basketball state championship, and you had gone down
Speaker 1: to the state tournament. Yeah, senior in high school. My
Speaker 1: first road trip ever. Man was David Burns and Colin Mayfiel.
Speaker 1: Colin Mayfiel. And by the way, the girls also won
Speaker 1: state that year. And you know who their star player was, Uh,
Speaker 1: don't tell me, the Vidman girl. Yes, yes, Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman went to South o'cliff. He did not play
Speaker 1: basketball in high school, though, I don't know what he
Speaker 1: was doing in high school. There's no telling what he
Speaker 1: was doing in high school. Quick ste he's that's his
Speaker 1: alma mater. I'm at Gambling, I'm about to graduate. And
Speaker 1: the Lttech. The Widman girl with the Lttech they come
Speaker 1: to I was campus trying to Buffalo US and I
Speaker 1: was doing That's how that's the guts that they had
Speaker 1: because the Latte girls at that time they were winning
Speaker 1: national championship. So she was a teammate of Kim Mulkis
Speaker 1: then because Monkey would have been at LA Tech. So
Speaker 1: we had to check that out. But they're having a parade.
Speaker 1: When's the last time the city of Dallas had a
Speaker 1: parade for a football champion? Nineteen fifty eight. No, I'm
Speaker 1: talking for any football champions. Five oh you mean yeah,
Speaker 1: So they are having a parade tomorrow morning that we'll
Speaker 1: wind up at south Old Cliff High School. So it's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a neat story. Yeah, d I s shout out
Speaker 1: to Michael Down's. Well, you know what, it just goes
Speaker 1: to show you upgraded facilities, a graded equipment and it
Speaker 1: can pay off. That's right, that's right. And uh okay,
Speaker 1: so where were we going next with this Cowboys team?
Speaker 1: And you know, one shout out from yesterday's game. He's
Speaker 1: been a little quiet here recently. But how about the
Speaker 1: game Dalton Schultz played? Yes, I loved it. Let him
Speaker 1: in receptions eight for sixty seven yards and a touchdown,
Speaker 1: and his touchdown was pretty sweet that he kept that
Speaker 1: play alive. And he ended up being if eyes mean anything,
Speaker 1: the third look because he looked he here, he looked
Speaker 1: there and then he saw Schultz back across the middle
Speaker 1: of the back of the end zone and yeah, and
Speaker 1: he helps solve some of your red zone issues, yes, right,
Speaker 1: And you know what else helps salve your red zone
Speaker 1: when you can run the ball into the blocking yards, now,
Speaker 1: it helps a lot. Did you see that hole? That
Speaker 1: was beautiful and Zeke ran it so well. I mean
Speaker 1: he hit off of every block perfectly, and then the
Speaker 1: surge into the end zone was amazing. Zack Martin, I
Speaker 1: don't know how he did it, but he came from
Speaker 1: right to left and then sealed off. That's the that's
Speaker 1: the last one he needed. That was the last seal.
Speaker 1: But they ran one in the end zone, not from
Speaker 1: one or two yards and other than Pollard's fifty eight.
Speaker 1: The last time they did that from that far was
Speaker 1: Zeke thirteen yards. Oh, it was like around the Giants,
Speaker 1: Giants somewhere in that Giant's Atlanta stuff the first time around. Um, well,
Speaker 1: when you look at what we're what Dak is looking
Speaker 1: at every week, it's covered too, right, We got they're
Speaker 1: gonna be running covered too with two safeties high until
Speaker 1: we show them that we can run the ball right consistently.
Speaker 1: So now you're going to have close coverage by every
Speaker 1: defensive back that's on the wide receiver because you could
Speaker 1: be much more aggressive in a two safety high than
Speaker 1: one safety high because you are covered almost all over
Speaker 1: the field. So what is left to be open. That
Speaker 1: would be the tight end and the running back position.
Speaker 1: Those are the ones that are vulnerable defensively to cover.
Speaker 1: So that's why you've got Sholts being so prominent in
Speaker 1: these last few games that we've had because these guys,
Speaker 1: the close coverage is there. For the cornerbacks, we love
Speaker 1: running crossing routes. If you're playing the two men inside,
Speaker 1: there's your responsibility, so they're gonna be close on everything.
Speaker 1: If you try to run a comeback, then we're gonna
Speaker 1: be under that as a cornerback because the safety is
Speaker 1: over the top. So the the running back and the
Speaker 1: tight end they are as extremely important down the stretch
Speaker 1: until we all show them that we are able to
Speaker 1: run the ball. So it was the Giants game. Zeke
Speaker 1: had the final touchdown against the Giants, thirteen yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: The passway it says, well, it sounds like it's a
Speaker 1: run because it doesn't say last ten plus yards. Did
Speaker 1: he catch a pass on that you're talking about the
Speaker 1: first Giants game. Yeah, that's when they did the high
Speaker 1: stepping in the last the last touchdown, he did the
Speaker 1: high stepping in the end zone with a pass out
Speaker 1: of the backfield. I thought that was a thirteen yard run.
Speaker 1: It was a run. It was a run, Okay. So
Speaker 1: there they also tried to run it in on third
Speaker 1: and eight at the eleven yard line, up six to
Speaker 1: three in the second quarter, and that did not fare
Speaker 1: as well well because they were going to have two plays,
Speaker 1: two plays to pick it up. They were going to
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth down, and they didn't. Only
Speaker 1: picked up two yards, picked up three yards. Three yards
Speaker 1: created a fourth so if it was fourth and three,
Speaker 1: they would they were hoping, they were hoping that they
Speaker 1: would get closer to like a six yard pickup instead
Speaker 1: of a three yard pickup on the run exactly. And
Speaker 1: that's what he said after the game, by the way,
Speaker 1: that that was the idea. It was a two play,
Speaker 1: two play deal, and they didn't pick up any yards,
Speaker 1: and so it's like, okay, let's kick the field goal.
Speaker 1: Well what about it at the end of the half.
Speaker 1: Everyone same thing. Everyone's you know, on his case again,
Speaker 1: talking about how we could have managed it better. Deck
Speaker 1: seemed like he wanted to call that time out before
Speaker 1: the half to just take one more shot, and he
Speaker 1: basically said no, yeah, it wasn't like, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do. He waved him off because he
Speaker 1: wanted the three points. He didn't want There was a gift.
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence gave him a gift by punching the football
Speaker 1: out from Barkley with forty one seconds left and a half.
Speaker 1: And so you have to come away with points there.
Speaker 1: You can't, especially since the Giants were going to get
Speaker 1: the ball right to end to start. So but at
Speaker 1: the time, if I'm not mistaken there with ten seconds
Speaker 1: left after the right when they've spotted the ball, you
Speaker 1: don't think they can get one play in in ten seconds.
Speaker 1: Take a shout in the end zone and see what
Speaker 1: you can do. Got him on the votes. What if
Speaker 1: you get sacked and fumble could be I think he
Speaker 1: was playing. Here's what he kind of explained it. It's
Speaker 1: like he didn't say this, but here's what he's thinking.
Speaker 1: All right, I got three points here. This team is
Speaker 1: not going to score much if at all. Oh, you
Speaker 1: know he has I'm playing to the defense, right and see,
Speaker 1: and that's where that's where the whole analytics thing comes
Speaker 1: into play there, Right, you have to factor in everything,
Speaker 1: including especially the opponent and does that opponent have the
Speaker 1: ability at all? Yeah? And so go ahead and just
Speaker 1: get the points and get enough of a lead on him.
Speaker 1: And where let's look at this as well. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you mentioned that. So could you say that offensively, we
Speaker 1: are being a little a lot more conservative considering how
Speaker 1: well our defense is playing. I think he's said doing
Speaker 1: who we play. I think he's playing to the defense
Speaker 1: and playing to who you're playing and knowing that that
Speaker 1: wind is pretty tough and it's probably hurting the passing
Speaker 1: game too, trying to throw deep. But yeah, he had time.
Speaker 1: He could have called time out and got one more
Speaker 1: play in. And he did this before. I can't remember
Speaker 1: which game it was, and he decided, no, let's just
Speaker 1: kick the field goal and get out of here and
Speaker 1: go up fifteen three instead of messing around. And maybe
Speaker 1: it's twelve three and they get the ball and a
Speaker 1: touchdown in two point conversion. Now it's twelve eleven, so
Speaker 1: on that on the extra point. You know, you guys
Speaker 1: know about the draw bridge. I told you about the
Speaker 1: draw bridge. Yeah, I think the draw No, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go this way like it too, right, I have to
Speaker 1: tweet it's my bridge, guys, I know that. And it
Speaker 1: was on that end of the field as well. That's
Speaker 1: the open area of the stadium. So it's too funny
Speaker 1: different into the field from on the other end. There's
Speaker 1: no opening. Yeah, yeah, right, that's no opening on this end.
Speaker 1: That's where the opening is and that's where the breezeway
Speaker 1: can be caused. So so not calling the time out
Speaker 1: doesn't give them the opportunity to change the draw bridge
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah see there you go, there you go.
Speaker 1: You want to do it quick when we need to
Speaker 1: go ahead kick it out. Don't give them the chance
Speaker 1: the effect. Well, no, they ran it down the three
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Speaker 1: And how about that defense for the third straight week
Speaker 1: with four takeaways? Absolutely to me amazing that you can
Speaker 1: continue on this streak and you know, you get an
Speaker 1: interception and then the punch outs DeMarcus Lawrence. That was
Speaker 1: heck of a game. That was sweet. He just had
Speaker 1: a heck of a game. And see, well he has
Speaker 1: got extra incentive, doesn't he? Yes, he does. How is that?
Speaker 1: And I was going to give you his line before
Speaker 1: you went to the extra sent of but for his
Speaker 1: third game, back to Marcus Lawrence with five tackles, one
Speaker 1: tackle for a loss, two quarterback hits, a pass defense
Speaker 1: and a forced fumble for a defensive end. That's what
Speaker 1: you were missing, not just pass rush all around. So
Speaker 1: now it's here the challenge issued from d law to Dak.
Speaker 1: I'm important with it to turn that first turnover into
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Yeah, I mean it was huge. It was huge,
Speaker 1: as I mean, I wish we would have turned all
Speaker 1: of them into touchdowns obviously, as I say, but it
Speaker 1: was huge. Um, we had we have a little bat
Speaker 1: going on. Um I'll let everyone know defense is kicking
Speaker 1: our ass. But it's turnovers versus touchdowns that we've we
Speaker 1: created this week and they obviously won this one, but
Speaker 1: we'll make sure that they carry carries over and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're doing a great job getting the ball. Uh.
Speaker 1: Front sevens, attacking back ends, getting their hands on balls. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's impressive. It's it's great to be a part of.
Speaker 1: But as I said, we've got to reward these guys
Speaker 1: with touchdowns that they do he said. They also had
Speaker 1: a follow up question and said something like, how you're
Speaker 1: gonna pay up? When you're gonna pay up? He goes,
Speaker 1: We're gonna roll it over. I'll keep it going and
Speaker 1: then we'll figure it out. Yeah, just a one game.
Speaker 1: They want to take this all the way. They want
Speaker 1: to take a streak the Super Bowl. So right now
Speaker 1: it's thirty one takeaways. How many touchdowns does this team have? Well, Bill,
Speaker 1: I could look that up. Okay, during the next time out,
Speaker 1: you will look it up and you'll have it for
Speaker 1: us tomorrow. Yeah, that would have to you want to
Speaker 1: be here, will thirty they have forty four? Forty four
Speaker 1: okay plus two? All right, so if you if you
Speaker 1: grandfather did back to the beginning of the season, he
Speaker 1: would have the lead. But right now from when the
Speaker 1: bet was issued, the challenge was issued from d Law
Speaker 1: the defense and as the advantage. Right, as long as
Speaker 1: there's a w at the end of the discussion, I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone cares who wins that battle. I love
Speaker 1: the competition starting for the Washington's Nick Mullins would be yours. No,
Speaker 1: no for Washington. I thought you meant for Cleveland, because
Speaker 1: that would be and Alan are out. You know, they
Speaker 1: signed Garrett Gilbert off the Patriots of practice squad, but
Speaker 1: it was was on their practice squad, right, and so
Speaker 1: they have both been rolled out for tomorrow's Hunekee and
Speaker 1: Alan okay, and then Mullins is starting for Cleveland at
Speaker 1: four o'clock this afternoon against the Raiders because Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: and case Keenum are both out with the COVID. I
Speaker 1: get ready for the game, man, I was. If I
Speaker 1: was the Cowboys, I'd just tell Cooper Rush to just
Speaker 1: go lock yourself in the house. You don't need to practice.
Speaker 1: You can zoom in the meetings, don't be here, don't
Speaker 1: let anybody in your house, and just stay safe. Okay,
Speaker 1: you want tuck CD briefly, Yeah, up of minutes. You know,
Speaker 1: our good friend Nate Newton compares a drop past to
Speaker 1: a turnover, and he had four of them. Man, was
Speaker 1: it four? I believe? So one of them was okay,
Speaker 1: looked like the sun was in his eyes, and then
Speaker 1: the other ones. It's like he's trying to run with
Speaker 1: it and do something fancy before he catches it. Just
Speaker 1: catch the ball, and you know what, he admitted it
Speaker 1: trying to do too much. And see that's where if
Speaker 1: you look at this team as we go down the stretch,
Speaker 1: the leadership has to be strong because you have young
Speaker 1: players on this and we forget that. We do forget
Speaker 1: that because they're they're operating at such a high level
Speaker 1: right now and they're working together as a nice young group.
Speaker 1: But there are times when you need a veteran out
Speaker 1: there to right the ship when things start going wrong.
Speaker 1: And there are times when a young team, especially defensively,
Speaker 1: they may not be able to wrap their head around
Speaker 1: the game plan against them and to be able to
Speaker 1: make the adjustment to come back. That worries me a
Speaker 1: bit as we go down the stretch. It happened to
Speaker 1: us in eighty one, and it could happen to this
Speaker 1: team as well. The youth in the second day. It
Speaker 1: can sometimes, Uh, we can be overwhelmed at times and
Speaker 1: you have to be careful with it. Let tear whatch
Speaker 1: CD had to say about the drops? How do you
Speaker 1: feel that you played today? You had a couple of Now,
Speaker 1: I played terrible to be honest, isn't no, It's no,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I thought I could have
Speaker 1: played better had three drops something like that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought I could have played better, and he could have,
Speaker 1: and he and he ended up. I mean, when did
Speaker 1: he finished with six catches for fifty yards? A couple
Speaker 1: of sweet runs that he turned in short passes that
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been a first down into first downs. UM So,
Speaker 1: you know, give him credit there, but it could have
Speaker 1: been more. UM breaking news from Tampa Bay Buccaneers wide
Speaker 1: receiver Chris Godwin out of the season, torn ACL. They
Speaker 1: thought it was an angle at first, and then they
Speaker 1: thought it was an MCLA, and now the probably had
Speaker 1: an MRI today, torn ACL, no playoffs. Did you see it?
Speaker 1: I didn't. What do you think of it? The head's
Speaker 1: the consequences of the rules themselves. It's just the way
Speaker 1: it is. You don't want to get them. I mean,
Speaker 1: these guys have to go low. You'll catch a receiver
Speaker 1: when you're trying to hone in on him, and the
Speaker 1: receiver may go down to catch a ball. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you think you have a safe hit in
Speaker 1: his torso and you're making the head shot. So DB's
Speaker 1: now they're just playing a safe and they're just staying
Speaker 1: as low as they can get so that they won't
Speaker 1: have any more unnecessary in faction. Was there a report
Speaker 1: on sterling Shepherd Achilles? Ye know, ye, you know he
Speaker 1: knows thinks. Yeah. I saw where he grabbed and they
Speaker 1: were like and it's like, oh, no contact he tore
Speaker 1: as Achilles. You know what that reminds me of like
Speaker 1: when the guy gets hit down low Yeah, and we
Speaker 1: all feel it. Yeah yeah, right, that was you you
Speaker 1: ye Achilles went and you felt you didn't you? I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I finally, I finally took my little
Speaker 1: kneel down scooter out of the room where I had
Speaker 1: it and put it in the garage. And I was thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: if he needs one, I could help him out. He
Speaker 1: I think he's twenty eight years old and he's had
Speaker 1: a cup to he's an old twenty didn't he miss
Speaker 1: all last? Yeah? He missed last. Yeah, everything's lower legs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and really has made the most of his abilities and
Speaker 1: so forth, and he really hoped that he can come
Speaker 1: back from it. But at twenty eight, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not ancient. It's not ancient at all. But like you say,
Speaker 1: he's got he's got a lot of wear. Until Kaz
Speaker 1: came back, Hooker came back, yea, and they both did
Speaker 1: it within a year. So Casey came back quicker than Hooker,
Speaker 1: did you know, as far as so and Hooker. Actually
Speaker 1: I saw him make plays. Um, no, he had it
Speaker 1: might have been his best game, had the interview. And
Speaker 1: so for Kazy, his occurred in October and he was
Speaker 1: back playing the next season and now. But for Shepherd
Speaker 1: had happened here in December, and so he's going to
Speaker 1: be very much in question. I don't know what his
Speaker 1: contract status is for, whether he's pre agent or what.
Speaker 1: But I knew his mother. Yeah, she passed. Uh. She
Speaker 1: lived in Odessa. My relatives live in Odessa. Her older
Speaker 1: brother Tony Ford was an amazing football player in Odessa,
Speaker 1: and their legends and the Shepherd family brothers Darryl and
Speaker 1: Woody Shepherd were great football players as well or his
Speaker 1: uncles that would be Sterling's uncles, but Derek, his dad,
Speaker 1: was the youngest of those Shepherds whatever. And of course
Speaker 1: Derek died tragically racquetball when he was an assistant coach
Speaker 1: at the University of Wyoming and so chef Dog. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and of course he played for the Cowboys, which is
Speaker 1: amazing because when we were back at the ranch and
Speaker 1: he was with the Cowboys. It was in the off season,
Speaker 1: and remember the racquetball courts there. They needed a fourth right,
Speaker 1: And I came walking by and Chef goes, come on, man,
Speaker 1: you're playing. I know what you mean. I plan. He goes,
Speaker 1: your plan. I said, I hadn't got any tennis shoes on.
Speaker 1: He goes, just take your shoes off, play with your
Speaker 1: socks on. So I did, right, and he took over
Speaker 1: the game for us and we had no problems. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a hell of an athlete. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, when I interviewed Sterling at the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: I told him the story. But me and your dad playing, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's cool. Yeah. And one other note before we get
Speaker 1: out of here. Jalen Smith has now been signed for
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Four tackles got him a job, right.
Speaker 1: He didn't not practice with the Giants in plays against
Speaker 1: at him because he was having too much fun out
Speaker 1: there with the Cowboy players like it was practice or something.
Speaker 1: So he's gets three more checks in the next three weeks.
Speaker 1: That's good for him. Though, that's good for him. He'd
Speaker 1: just be glad that they ran the ball thirty times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't get him isolated in coverage. All right, We
Speaker 1: will let Mickey go off more on that tomorrow on
Speaker 1: the next edition of mix Shots, and we will chat
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