WEBVTT - Ep. 459: Hind Titty 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:13.320 This is the Meat Eater Podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:18.599 bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listeningcast. You can't 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.080 predict anything. The Meat Eater Podcast is brought to you 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.520 by First Light. Whether you're checking trail cams, hanging deer stands, 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.880 or scouting for el First Light has performance apparel to 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.960 support every hunter in every environment. Check it out at 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.199 first Light dot com, f I R S T L 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.720 I t E dot com. Chrin. You know how a 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:41.440 lot of times we come up with what the show 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.280 is gonna be called, but then we forget and it's 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:43.960 called something. 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:45.920 Different that doesn't really happen. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.040 I feel like it does. I feel like a lot 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:50.800 of times I'll be like, hey, let's call the show this, 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:57.320 and it winds up not being called that. Okay, pind 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:02.120 Titty should be this episode. No one's gonna know why 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:07.800 for now, but later they'll know. Okay, Tommy knows what 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:09.720 I'm talking about. I know exactly what you're talking about. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.360 Tommy knows exactly what I'm talking about. Joey. We're recording 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.680 today from the Flagship First Light store in Haley, Idaho. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.120 What is that, you might ask, It's the flagship First 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.800 Light Store in Haley, Idaho. If you want to find 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.000 the best hunting gear on the planet, you come into 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.640 this store and get it. And to give you a 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:32.120 real virtual experience of what it's like we have today. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:39.000 Keith and Spa should be a spatch ye, but it's not. 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:41.320 We all agree it's an. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.080 Spa and Dom Cooper and between you guys, can you 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.880 quickly calculate someone walks in the door, what's the likelihood 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.600 they'll encounter one or both of you? 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:55.120 I would say seventy. I've live in here, so probably 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.680 even more than that. Tom's in here a lot though. 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.560 So there's like a likely that you would come in 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.880 and they would find you, guys, So after this they'll 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.480 be comfortable coming in knowing who they're looking for. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.519 Just give me a high five. I'm here every day. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:15.320 Okay. Now you'll know because one of them has an 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:16.680 insane mullet. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:19.720 I've been working on it in a while, man. 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:24.040 And one of them's Australian. Sure and get it out. 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.200 So you know we've had we had another Australian on recently. 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:32.320 You guys have been making a strong showing Yep, we're 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:38.000 an interesting braid of people. Great this other Australian is 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:42.880 a pH in Africa and and you're here, and so 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.400 we're catching them as they kind of get spun off 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:51.440 into the broader outside world. Also joined by Tommy Edson, 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:57.160 known as the blue collar scholar, always bragging up how 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:01.080 good he does? I meet you? To trivia? He came 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.840 down lost. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.919 Then the pause gate scandal broke. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:09.240 What was that? 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.840 Blue collar pause is my new nickname at work? 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.680 Oh and then we caught when that Yeah that he 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.120 what The reason he performs well in private is he 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:21.120 pauses the show. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.160 I'm gonna let you finish. Go ahead, Well, oh you 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:26.560 want me to go? 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.640 Yeah? You pause, think about it longer, which is like 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.519 if I could like pause it for a couple of days, 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.720 a couple of days and like be like. 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.640 It's actually yeah. It was more like, you know, for 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:39.440 four days. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.000 Do you ever do a little research while it's paused? 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.440 No, I'm I'm working a high play in a fast 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.840 placed environment. And I was like, but at the same time, 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.680 I could pause the game, continue with my job while 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:56.080 I was communicating with somebody at work and not miss 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.640 like I didn't know. There's times where I don't have 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.720 time to stop even for the five seconds and write 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:05.560 my answer down. So it's like and so, but then 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.600 it does, Dick. I got to thinking about it and 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:09.480 it gave me a little bit. I thought, does it 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.360 give me a combetitive advantage? And so then I said 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.920 something to Joey, one of the guys on the Rodeo team, 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:15.760 and I even. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.960 Texted you and You're like, oh you cheater. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:28.240 Yeah. Yeah, So Tommy, here here's why we're gonna name 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:32.400 here's why the show's gonna called high and titty Tommy. Recently, Doug, 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.800 my buddy Bubbly Doug Durren sends me a screenshot of 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.240 an exchange he has a Tommy Tommy has this to 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.599 say to Doug. Quick cow question. If you're milking a 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:46.200 cow and it's a race, which utter or nipple are 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.679 you going for? Is there something in particular I should 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:54.200 be looking for in an utter? We're gonna dive into 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:58.359 all that. Let's do because in due time, because I've 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.560 pointed out a couple of times, we talked about a lot. 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:02.800 You know, we came out with the shirt. We came 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.120 out with the wild Cow Milker t shirt. Correct, because 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.600 we dug deep here. We take our art, you know, 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.320 we take our spending. Seriously, we dug deep and sponsored 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.000 Tommy's wild Cow Milk and rodeo team for three hundred 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.120 bucks and he sent me in. I shouldn't say this 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.600 because people are gonna start pilfering my mailbox. 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.920 I wouldn't say it. You could, well, you could. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:27.240 Say, Tommy sent me the winnings in cash rolled up 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:27.880 in a paper, and. 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:28.680 You do that. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:29.640 You shouldn't do that. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.440 No, that's fine. So now they're just sitting on my 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.960 desk like an envelope of cash that I need to 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.200 go and find some way to integrate into. I'm gonna 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:39.120 hand it off to somebody. 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:39.560 I figured. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.760 That's why I like it, because I like to feel that. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:42.159 Man. 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.000 Yeah, yeah, it's a good feeling. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:46.960 When that judge hands you that water cash. You're like, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:48.800 there's a picture somewhere in me. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.560 Yeah. Hobby tournaments you guys done. 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:57.760 That would be, uh the third one I think to 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.040 this is our second year. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.080 No, no, no, no, I mean how many uh, how 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.320 many rodeos you participated in so far this year? 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.040 I think that's the third one. Oh, this this year? 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.159 That's holdly, we only do two a year? You do 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.480 two a year. When's the next one September. Oh that 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:13.240 I knew there was more. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.400 To come, all right, So we got we recoup some 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:17.840 of our money and the money is going into the 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.480 Land Access Initiative, Media's Land Access Initiative, which we need 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.160 to do. We need to We're gonna get heavy duty 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.880 on raising some money for that initiative coming up. So 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.320 we're gonna get into what because we had a lot 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.480 of questions. A lot of questions came in about I 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.640 don't understand how that's a thing. What wild cow milking, 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.440 wild cow milking and rodeos. Oh, I mean people kind 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.039 of get it like bull ride and they're like, yeah, 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:41.239 I've been exposed to that. That resonates with me. Team 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:45.240 roping people will be like I've seen that around right, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.479 wild cow milking, they don't know what you're talking about. 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:47.839 Right. 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:49.919 It's like most rodeo events like have a they have 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.360 a where they originated. You know, you have like tie 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:57.120 down roping, calf roping where you tie down your calf 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.440 and you got to go back to your saddle bags 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.640 and grab your whatever. Shots go up give, but you 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.400 had to make sure he was stay tied. That's why 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.560 the time is set for I think it's five or 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.520 six seconds. You cow's gotta stay tied while he's down. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.480 All these events have like beginnings. 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.280 Like where they begin from. No, we'll get into the history. 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.040 We're gonna do that pretty soon, and then we're gonna 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.640 get We're also joining us here in the in the 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.880 first light store is zeb Hogan. I have two ways 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:26.559 to describe you, and they seem contradictory. One is host 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:33.160 of nat Geo's Monster Fish Show or the United Nations 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:39.480 Convention on Migratory Species Scientific counselor for fish just seems different. 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.680 I would lean into the latter one because it sounds like, 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.000 really the guy you'd want to talk to you if 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.440 you want to talk about fish. And then you're also 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.640 author of Chasing Giants in Search of the World's Largest 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.640 Freshwater Fish, which is available now. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.560 Correct published last month, Yeah, polish. 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.360 Last month and in it and I watched some things 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.560 Krinn sent me, And what what really hooked me on 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:11.640 talking to you is the question of how. Why is 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.760 the question what is the big what is the biggest large? Sorry, 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:22.119 the question what is the world's largest freshwater fish? Why? 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:27.160 It takes a book to not quite answer that question. 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.440 It's a rich question, and we're gonna get in a 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:34.080 little bit into the richness of that question, which is 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:42.120 definitions stacked on top of definitions, and also a a 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.079 kind of a that that a lot of the the 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.760 a lot of these fish that might be contenders are 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:52.440 in an alarming state population wise. Yeah, it seems like 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:58.640 the modern world is not friendly to huge freshwater fish. 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.160 So we're gonna spend time on that. But first off, 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:05.079 I want to jump back into what happens when you 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:06.880 walk into the first Light store. So what happens when 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.120 you walk into the first Light Store? I come in 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:13.520 and I say Hi, Then what will happen? 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:15.040 Man? 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.560 The First Light Store is such an experience. The first 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.600 thing I usually want to let people do is just 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.760 kind of take a grasp what they're walking into. It's 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.880 really cool. You get the whole first line product. Not 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.000 anywhere in the world where you can see this. So 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.280 when you walk in here, we've got a huge line. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.600 Even the First Light employees walk in, They're like, I 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.240 didn't know we sold this much stuff? 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.880 Oh boy? Yeah, everybody I've been in here with it's like, God, 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.880 I didn't know that this was all here. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.520 Yeah, it's unbelievable. Between the waterfowl, the ladies line, all 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.760 our Western big game, huge amount of product we can 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.960 point a customer towards. So it's really cool. What I 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.880 really like at the store is the ability to like 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.640 see that customer, talk to the customer, and like figure 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.400 out what they want to do in the world. Like, 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:02.640 we've got a ton of people that are just doing 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.000 elk hunts and Idaho, but then we get We've had 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.320 people from every state in the country at this stage. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.600 Oh really yeah cool, So it's really cool. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.880 You know, we help out people that are doing their 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.679 first Africa trips. We've got people going down to Mexico 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.440 for mule deer. We've got all the sorts of waterfowl hunters, 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.000 bear hunters this spring, We're all over in the store. 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.160 So I just it's really cool to live vicariously through 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.959 them and see what they're wanting to do and then 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.040 to dial in what gear exactly they want. Super fun. 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.240 Yeah where were you born? Where you brought up? 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.520 I was born in Colorado, but I've been an Idaho 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.679 boy now for most of my life. So I grew 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.200 up in Idaha Falls for the most part, went to 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.280 school up at University Idaho, up in Moscow, and I've 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.040 been in the Wood River Valley now for about eighteen years. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:45.960 Oh, a long time. 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:46.240 Yeah. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.040 I managed to store up and catch them a backpacking 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.160 store and outdoor store for a long time, just to 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.120 block away from the old First Light headquarters. So I 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.079 was there from the beginning with friends, with all of 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.920 that crew and watch the brand grow. And then when 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:00.840 they came up with the idea of that store, it 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.040 was something I could not say no to. It's too 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:04.200 cool not to work here. 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:05.400 Uh. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.040 How many people come in and they don't really know 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:08.720 what they're walking into, and how many people come in 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:09.680 knowing what they're up to? 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.400 You know, I'd say a majority of the people come 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.720 to check out the store. This is a destination store. 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:19.240 People do trips around the store. So, but then we 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.640 definitely have people to walk in here and they do 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.959 like two or three steps and they there's a lot 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.120 of cameo in here, and you can see them just 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.400 do a reverse and walk out. It's just not the 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.360 right store for what you're looking for. Yeah, So but 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.720 the majority of people are so stoked to come check. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:36.079 Out the store. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.400 Yeah, And uh, Dom, walk me through. How did you 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:44.240 come to what's the like the Australia the Haley Path 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.520 to the typical Australia the Haley Path. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:46.760 Yeah. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.720 See, it was always an outdoors blug. But I came 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.760 over to America when I was fourteen and, uh, you know, 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.000 kid reading a little the Rourke in Hemingway, I thought, uh, 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.679 you know, I grew up fishing and hunting was the 0:11:58.720 --> 0:11:59.160 next step? 0:11:59.240 --> 0:11:59.320 Is? 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:00.480 It often is? 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.679 And I came over when I was fourteen and I 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.080 went on a pheasant hunt and a coyote hunt, and 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.440 it was probably the most miserable experience ever. Like you 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.280 came over as a visitor, it came over as a 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:17.600 visitor at the time. Yes, I had an old Model 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.040 twenty one sixteen gauge that someone lent me and I 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.280 went on peasant this pheasant hunt and there. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:23.240 Was no dog or anything. 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.960 And it was on Blm Land in southern Idaho, and 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.839 I think we got one bird up all day and 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:30.920 I didn't have the gear, didn't have the gear at all, 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.320 and I actually had frost nip on my hands and 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.440 the one bird that flew up, I didn't even pull 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.240 the trigger on because I couldn't work the safety. 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:38.240 On that little Model twenty one. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:40.559 And at the end of the day, I was like, man, 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:45.040 that's a miserable experience. But you know, going back to 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.160 guys like you know, Teddy Roosevelt talking about this strenuous life, 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:50.880 I was like, man, this really sucked, but I had 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:51.440 a lot of fun. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.320 What is it in me that really enjoyed this? And 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:55.240 ever since then, I was. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.000 Just absolutely obsessed. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:58.400 With Western hunting. 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.959 So ever chance I got, every holiday, I'd come over 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.760 to Idaho and hunt. I nearly got kicked out of 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.240 college twice because I was trying to do that. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.199 But were you hunting in Australia too? 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:09.920 A little bit? 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.360 So I'm from Queensland and there's you know, a lot 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.720 of Queenslanders and Australians listening to this. Know that Queensland 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.640 does not define any game species of our game, so 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:21.439 we have, you know, we have quite a quite a 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.880 robust population of red deer and fallow deer and shittle 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.959 deer and pigs. But they're not defined as game by 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.800 the state. They're defined as pests. So it's a lot 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.960 of control rather so than managing them as a as 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:38.840 an actual asset to the people. So I did a 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:40.439 bunch of that over there, A lot of bow hunting, 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.000 but it just never did it to me in the 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.079 way that Idaho managers game and the relationship with public 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.800 lands here. So I knew as soon as I finished 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.160 finished my education there and finished my time, I wanted 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:52.600 to move over. 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.280 Were you involved some kind of ranch and type radio 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:56.560 tape activities over there? 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.200 Yeah, So I always had a bit of a question 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:04.360 for adventure. So my mate and I basically worked out, 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.760 like what weeks we needed to be at college in 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.520 which we didn't so that we could just scrape by 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:10.440 and pass because. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.679 We want to do it to cowboy and hunt. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.719 That was basically our life over there, and Mum and 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.440 Dad went too fond of it at the time, but 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.680 you know, they understand it now. And I was very 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.520 lucky my old man and my sister actually came out 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.640 last year and we came on a hunt with me 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.200 for the first time, and we were lucky enough to 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.080 harvest and elk together and work our butts off for 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.640 it and pack it out. And it's a very very 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.760 very special experience. Have you guys married, No, at least 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.440 this guy is married for a long. 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.800 You've been married a long time fifteen. 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.200 His wife's actually he's watched a hairdresser and one of 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.960 the most highly acclaimed hairdressers in the valley. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.080 So you got like a revolt going against your wife. 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.960 She you know, she tips a big game. How she 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:57.760 doesn't like it, but she gets a glass of wine 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.000 in hair and. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.520 She want to run her fingers through the back of 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:01.880 your hair. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.600 It's got the Kavorka man, you can't. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.280 All right, So there you have it. So if you come, 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.480 if you wind up anywhere in the vicinity, come down 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.240 to our flagship first light store, only place on the 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.160 planet right now where you can walk in touch stuff. 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.080 Yeah, it's a pretty neat experience. 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.360 A couple of weird looking dudes get some great products 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:21.680 in your hands. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.160 Yeah, well now they know, now they know, Like it's like, yeah, 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.520 a couple of alarming looking fellas, but deep down, a 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:28.440 couple of hearts of gold. 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:29.760 I wouldn't go that far. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.720 We like to hunt, man, that's the most important part. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:38.280 Yeah. Ever, if you can speak to the equipment, that's great, man. Yeah, absolutely, well, 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.120 thank you man. Thanks for letting us be down here too, 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:41.240 because we had to lock the doors. 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.320 Oh absolutely, Now, this is a really cool experience. That's 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:45.600 awesome having you guys here. 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.440 I'll point out that there was a person out there 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.280 that wanted to come in who had a pretty very 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.040 set She knew exactly what she wanted. Absolutely, that was 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.400 an educated customer coming in. 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.320 We get a lot of those, Definitely a lot of 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.680 people they know exactly what they want to put their 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.520 hands on. They just want to try it on, see 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.720 what they need. A lot of times we can close 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:03.520 that sale right here. 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.520 Yes, she wasn't here to run her fingers through your hair. 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.640 She was here to make a purchase. Oh you never know, man, 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:16.960 All right, Tommy, thanks coming down now, help enlighten, enlighten 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:26.480 people about the rodeo event called tell me what it's called? 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:26.640 Do? 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:27.680 I want to make sure I got it right. 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.480 Technically, our turn our our event is called shoot Cow 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.560 milking shoot cows. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:34.920 Basically you and you want me to just start like. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.480 The I want to know the history. I want souped nuts. 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.400 As I understand it, the history is like basically you're 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:49.320 loading cows like with manpower instead of with horsepower. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.800 And you know, basically the way that's. 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:57.440 Kind of the crux or the beginning of how where 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:02.240 that rodeo event started. What, as I understand it, how 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.200 it works is your basic rodeo arena, your basic oval. 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.240 One side is almost always grand stands. The other side 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.560 is your bucking shoots, and you're where all your rough 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:16.840 stock is bulls horses, bucking horses, whatever you have. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.080 In most standard proteo arenas, you have six bucket. 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.760 Shoots three and three with a gap in the middle, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:23.639 may or may not be a gap in the middle. 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.240 Wild cow milk and what they do is it's a 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.480 three man team. You have three positions on that team. 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.760 You have a milker, a mugger, and an anchor. Anchor 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.320 is kind of self explanatory. Usually it's your biggest guy 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.439 on the team, and he's a guy that usually is 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.399 in charge of not letting go of that rope and 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:46.440 can in case there's catastrophe, like two guys go down 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.800 or one guy goes down, the big guy can usually 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.399 just set down on his bend his knees and squat 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.080 down and stop a cow or ski around or get 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:01.840 drug around. But basically the mugger's job is to stop 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:06.119 that cow you at some point. We'll get to that 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.240 in a second. The milker's job is pretty self explanatory. 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:13.840 His job is to milk it. They run six cows 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:19.840 wild heifers into the bucking shoots. Usually there's an event 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.920 of some kind going on, a drill team or a 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.359 clown show going on about that time, so that each 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.240 team draws a number out of a hat one through six, 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.600 whatever durn number you draw. You draw number three. That's 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.880 your cow, and that's your shoot. Shoot three. You inside. 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.639 You take a rope alter. Everybody, every team has issued 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.879 a rope pulter in a clear beer bottle like a 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.520 Corona bottle. Yeah. Yeah, they're not making it easy on you. 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.199 You take somebody's got to get in the shoot with 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:52.120 the cow, put the rope alter on it, and usually 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.080 you wait for the event to and they'll go through 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:55.719 and announce everybody's sponsors. 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.520 But they presumably they've checked to see if the cow 0:18:58.600 --> 0:18:59.200 is lactating. 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:03.760 Oh yeah, but that's something too as usually sometimes you 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.240 do get one that's not nearly as moist as the 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:08.000 rest of them. 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.600 You know, you'll try it one once in a while. 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.560 That's what hands my question to Bubbly Doug. 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.840 You know, I want every upper hand I can get, yep, 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.160 So I went straight to the man. 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:19.840 Yeah, but. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.040 Then the buzzer goes off and all six shoots open 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.480 that you will all six guys open their shoots, and 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:29.880 six cows come bull dozing out of there, and it's 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.280