WEBVTT - The Doctor is In 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:07.960 This is and Gavin and I heard radio podcasts. Welcome 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:10.560 to the show, everybody, My name is Brooks, like and 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:14.000 this is how men think. A podcast where we discuss 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:18.680 a wide range of topics with educated and enlightened gentlemen like. 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:25.000 So we have Dmitri, we have Rick, we have Ryan. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:29.040 Good sirs, how you doing today? Doing well? Fantastic? Thank 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.159 you for asking means a lot. You're also, I know 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.960 that Ryan's feeling really good because he has a story 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.559 that he wants to tell. So we've a lot of 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.239 our discussions, even off Mike, are about like doctor questions 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:46.400 and health and uh, physicality, just health matters in general. 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.560 And then Ryan has an epic story that he wants 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.080 to tell, and so he's sitting here happy as a claim. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.280 He's really gloating because he knows. And Amy even said 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:58.520 it's an epic story. Don't see it that. I'm no one. 0:00:58.560 --> 0:00:59.920 I never said it was an epic story. When you 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:01.240 build it up like that, it puts a lot of 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.280 pressure on me, and now you have to deliver us. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.240 That's the standard of this show. Figure out how to 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.280 make an epic, Yes, figure out how to make this 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.640 story epic, because that's the standard that we're setting on 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.679 this show. But then also I want to say, we 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.600 have doctor Todd on this show, coming in after this 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.920 to answer a bunch of our medical questions. How it's 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:20.800 called from a doctor because we don't go to doctor, 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.120 We don't go to doctors. We get doctors to come 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.279 in studio. Well, that's exactly right, and that that's a 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:30.080 good segue into what I am experiencing today, which is 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.160 the reason that I don't go to a doctor. Now, 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.160 the two of you or the three of you with Rick, 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.760 you guys don't go to a doctor because you're lazy, 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.399 You're ignorance, is bliss, or it's just an inconvenience, or 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:46.319 you just don't know why I don't go to a doctor. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:52.800 You tell me why because I'm lazy? Go ahead, sorry, Yeah, 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.320 And so so for me, it's it's not as much 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.960 about that, but rather I don't go to a doctor 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:03.560 because the last time I did, I was told by 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.400 the physician and by the head of the health system 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:13.519 that I am no longer welcome back to this physician's office. Whatever. Again, 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.880 I don't know why, but I believe it. I I'm 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.400 I'm really curious to hear what you did here and 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.200 how you think it's appropriate. Yeah, I'm not surprised. I'm 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:28.160 curious though, So I'll tell you I had a really 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:33.960 bad sore throat, really hurt to swallow, and I went 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.960 into how old are you at this point? Sorry? This 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.040 is this reason? Now, this was I was like three 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:44.560 years ago. So went into my physician and saw her 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.640 explain the elements. She did a strap culture came back negative. 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.639 Wasn't strep throat. I thought it was a bacterial trying 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.480 to figure out a bacterial viral whatever. So she gave 0:02:54.560 --> 0:03:00.240 me a prescription to help with the sore throat. So 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:04.040 I go home. There was it was a five day prescription. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.239 I take the pills and it gets better, but then 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.959 at the end of the fifth day, it's just it's 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.360 lingering again and it's almost getting worse. So it's clearly 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:19.040 not working. So I call the doctor's office and I said, hey, 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:20.880 you know, i'd love for the doctor to call me back. 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.720 I've been on uh this medication, it's not really working. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.760 I'd love to just figure out a course of action 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.400 moving forward. They say, okay, great, we'll have her call 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.120 you back. So don't hear back from hers. So then 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.440 I send her an email and I say, hey, doctor, 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.200 yesterday was my last day on the z pack. Yet 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.560 in the past couple of days, I've developed a head 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.120 and sinus cold that's really knocked me out. I was 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.680 relieved that my throat was getting progressively better, and then 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.280 all of a sudden, today it's back to being really 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.840 sore and it hurts the swallow. I'm not sure what 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.000 the best course of action is here. Is it to 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.360 get another z pac prescription? And they said, dear Mr Ryan, 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:00.200 we cannot cure high maintenance. Thank you. No, I'll tell 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:04.200 you what they did. I sent that email. The entire 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.520 day goes by, I don't get a reply back from 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:10.440 from my doctor. I've already put a call in the 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.600 previous day. So now it's two days a phone call 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:18.640 and an email, no response. The following day, it's getting worse. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.200 I can barely swallow at this point, and I need 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.320 I actually need help. So I call the doctor's office 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.280 for a second time and I say, Hi, I called 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.920 two days ago. You said the doctor was gonna call 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.200 me back. I've not gotten a return call. I've sent 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.039 a follow up email. I've not gotten a response to 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.720 the email. I'm now calling a second time. I need 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.839 I need her to call me back. I need to 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:44.680 know do I need to come in again that she 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.120 need to refill the zpac prescription. What what do I 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.039 need to do? They said, we're so sorry. We'll absolutely 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.600 give the doctor the message. She'll call you back as 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.600 soon as she's out with the current patient she's in with. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.320 So that was at ten in the morning. That that 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:03.080 day goes by, no call, no call, no email. That's unacceptable. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.320 This because this is a medical issue, and whether they 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.800 think it's something or not, you are cons serious. You're 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.280 obviously concerned about it, and I think it's their job 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:18.280 to to not stress you out even more so, here's 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:23.840 what happens next seven days later. Are you still having 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:28.080 trouble at this point? At seven days later, I it all. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.320 It cleared itself up, and I just I went about 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.000 my life. It all nature ran its course. They worked 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.240 itself out. That's why they just let you go, because 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.640 they're like this, listen to this, listen to it. It's true. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:43.480 Still unprofessional. But seven days later I get an email 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:48.799 back from the doctor. She says, seven days later, Ryan, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.080 I apologize, I just realized I didn't respond. It's always 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.720 good to call the office, though. If you're not feeling better, 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.400 I assume and hope you're doing better now. If not, 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:05.479 I should see you again. Okay, okay, So I am 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.479 Are you mad at the doctor? I am furious at 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:12.760 the doctor or as the doctor who is saying a 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.560 I didn't respond, but in the future, you should call 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.520 the office, not email me. I called twice. Yeah, but 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.560 you didn't talk to her. You talked to somebody else, 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.240 so right, so it's not his or her. That is 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.160 not my problem. I did call, like I've done everything 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.440 on my behalf. But can you be mad at the 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.000 doctor when it wasn't the document at anything to do 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:32.720 with it. You're mad at the doctor because they're the 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.560 head of the office. Is that? What I'm is that 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.279 you're mad at the reception for not passing on the message. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.120 She is passively aggressively telling me I should have called. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.080 I called twice, an emailed and got no response from 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:47.400 three different outreaches. That is absurd. So we think it's 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.320 best if you didn't come back to the podcast. So 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.080 let me tell you. Let me tell you what I did. 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:57.240 I was so angry and annoyed in this moment that immediately, immediately, 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.599 within a minute of getting that email from her, I 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.680 sent left a bad review on Yelp. I sent a 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:07.800 response to her. I changed the subject to auto response. 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.720 This subject was strep throat, and I changed it to 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.400 auto response colon strep throat. And then I immediately responded, 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.440 strepthroat and your colon. That's what I was thinking. What 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:23.320 you said, Sorry, this is a big life issue for apologize. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.120 I immediately respond with the auto response and I say, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.800 this email is no longer active. Ryan passed away last 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.960 week due to complications from strep throat. Memorial services are 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.920 being planned and the family asks you send donations to 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:45.360 the Strep throat Awareness Fund in lieu of flowers. That okay, 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.560 that is have you ever in your life been called petty? 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:55.240 So let me tell you. Let me tell you the 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.360 the chain of offense. You gotta get your balls checked due. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:05.200 Thank you. So after this, that day, I get a 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:09.600 call from a woman you did listen to this. I 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.920 get a call on my cell. It was actually the 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:16.200 following day and the woman says, hi, uh Ryan, my 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.320 name is Mary so and So. I am the head 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:22.520 of x University Health System. I'm the head president of 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.800 the health system, and I said, nice to meet you. 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.880 She said, we have a major issue, sir. I said, yeah, 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:34.160 I think we do. But what's your issue? And she said, well, uh, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.360 it's been brought to my attention and the general counsel 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:42.280 of our health administration that an email was sent on 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.160 your behalf to your doctor. And I've said, so now 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:50.440 you're checking your emails. Thank you, And she says, well, 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.319 I said that's correct. And she said, well, we let 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.240 me tell you what happened after your doctor received that email. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:03.600 She was cataton. She broke down into tears, almost had 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.480 a mental breakdown, canceled all of her appointments for all 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:12.040 of her patients for the next two days, and what 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.959 and genuinely believed that she failed as a physician and 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:20.160 lost one of her patients due to her negligence. And 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.880 that is all because of you sending the email that 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.400 you sent, which you probably thought was funny, but I'm 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.880 here to tell you it is absolutely not funny. How 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.720 did that feel to hear that? I said, well, I 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.000 I feel awful that She said, she is so upset 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.760 by thinking that her negligence could have cost one of 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:43.160 her patients their lives and let let this be a 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:47.760 lesson to you. It was seven days after she decided 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.720 to email me and say, in the future I should 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.520 call Well, did you check your call outs? Yes, sir, 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.719 we actually did, and we do see that there are 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:59.800 records of your calls and our receptionist uh informed. But 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.120 the doctor and she forgot to call you back one 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.520 of the times, and the second time she admittedly did 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:09.800 not relay the message. Okay, and then she said she 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.640 proceeded to lecture me, and I said, let me stop 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:17.640 you there. Mary. The issue I had onto the podcast 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:22.240 because I said, I have here is this The doctor 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.679 is an intelligent person, I said, did you read the email? 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.640 You're an intelligent person too. Did you read the email? 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:34.000 Do you think that upon passing away within hours, the 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.800 first thing that my closest loved ones and my wife 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.080 and everybody decided to do was, oh, my god, we're 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.960 grieving Ryan's death, but we should get onto his Gmail 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.480 and put an auto response on there to make sure 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:50.840 anyone that emails donates to the Strep Throat Awareness Fund, which, 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.880 by the way, Mary, I don't believe that exists. It 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.880 sounds like the most ridiculous fun point but knowing you, 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.400 knowing you, it's possible that you have fifteen of these 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:05.080 emails already cooked up for anything in case you do 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.439 pass away. Wait, the staff isn't a real thing. The 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.800 Strep Throat Awareness Fund, I said, And my family is 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.760 asking to donate to the fund in lieu of flowers. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.520 And by the way, that I died from complications to 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.040 the strep. I don't have a metal to medical degree. 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.199 That's all all to you, guys, But like, pretty sure 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.800 you can't die from strep throat. And let's not miss 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.840 the obvious here. Anyone that knows you knows that you 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.600 would insist that you get flowers rather than donation. And 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:34.000 my love language, Mary is gifts, okay, and so is 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:39.040 my death language. What what is it called? Um? He's 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.480 probably got his own uh what's it called? Uh? In 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:46.120 the paper. You probably have you written your own obituary 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.560 in case you do pass that you're just like you 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.840 have it in your will or your trust or something 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:54.680 that he's got. It's a glam shot. This is my 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.040 good side. It's been touched up. I'm wearing the Gavin 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:02.880 to grow merchandise. Yes, so this this really so basically, 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:08.280 when you talk to this Mary, You're basically like, you're welcome. Yes, 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.960 I said, you you did them of good service in 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.680 your mind to be a lesson to you. And and obviously, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.320 in the way i'm telling it now it comes off 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.360 as being condescending. But I said, and there's a very 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:23.760 good chance I could have died. And and he's just like, 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:28.240 I am the right here. How about this, she canceled 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:32.680 two days of appointments. Those are people that were actually sick, 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.960 that could have had something serious happen to them. And 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.240 did you apologize for that? Do you say I'm sorry 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.920 or just go You're welcome? No, I said, the doctor 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.480 is a very intelligent person. She went to an undergrad 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.800 and medical school. I find it hard to believe that 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:52.040 she did not implement a single shred of common sense 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:56.440 into this equation to deduce that well, even if I 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.360 have a question as to whether this is a legit email, 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.960 why do I call him and see if that's because 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.880 you're dead? Yeah? And by the way, and and to that, 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.760 like Mary called me, why is she calling a dead guy? 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.040 If you really thought I was dead, why are you calling? 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.080 Because Mary saw right through your ruse. By the way, 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:17.360 in your defense, in Ryan's defense, they say that strep 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.839 throat is a child's disease, and you certainly acted like 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:24.880 a child. So hold on, I'd like to know what 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.920 our listeners think of this, because it's I think it's 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.199 pretty apparent that I don't think Dmitri and I would 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.080 go that route. In fact, I don't even know how 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.000 to change that thing on my email whatever you're talking about, 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.680 so I couldn't even I've never thought about faking my 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.199 own death just to stick it to somebody. Well, at 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.680 the end of this all, it concluded with me demanding 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:48.680 an apology, Mary being unwilling to give me more, ultimately saying, well, uh, 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.880 you know, we've talked internally and had numerous board meetings 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.560 and decided collectively, uh, that you are no longer welcome 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.360 back in this health system and at this doctor's office. 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.440 So and how about this, This called is the chain 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.320 of events. You have not been in the doctrine three years. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.600 This whole thing is having a ripple effect, which means 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.839 you will probably die sooner than you need to because 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.240 you refuse to go back to another doctor or or 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.600 your band from every doctor everywhere. We have a musical 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.760 malpractice suit on our hands, don't we Oh, I don't 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:20.320 think we do. Are you blacklisted amongst doctor's offices? Uh? No, 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.280 I actually I feel like this isn't the first time. 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.840 Let me tell you how I've remedied it. I got 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.960 this app called one Medical, which allows me to whenever 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.960 I'm feeling an ailment of any sort, I can hit 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.680 the app face time with a physician from around the 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.000 country within two minutes, tell them what's going on. I 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:42.960 have a sort throughout this is blah blah blah. And 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.280 they say, great, your your pharmacy CVS on this on sepulvida. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:50.000 I'll call in a z pac right now. Within seven minutes, 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:51.680 I have a prescription called in and I don't have 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.840 to leave the house and deal with someone who's gonna 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.600 just so. They just described you what presc you. Yeah, 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.680 I imagine you have to use some code name and 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:01.400 not you're only name on this app. I wear one 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.280 of those glasses things within, fake nose and mustache. Okay, 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:05.800 and now listen to me, and I mean this is 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.040 from all of us, is from Brooks, Gavin Rick and myself. 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.080 We have a doctor coming today. Dr Todd, you better 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.040 be on your damn best behavior when he comes in here, 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.840 we don't need you. We will throw you out. I 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:21.280 I worry that there's like a America's Most Wanted type 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.440 like flyer that's gone out in the physician community with 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.680 my face on it, that like he's gonna walk in 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.960 here and immediately just know that I'm that guy and 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.360 walk immediately. I'm afraid my doctor is going to find 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.280 out that I'm on a podcast with you and stop 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:38.520 serving me. I'm afraid that you pulled this whole stunt 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:49.360 to possibly get some flowers back from break. And I'm 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.960 super excited because none of us we've talked about this. 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.880 None of us like going to the doctor. Um, I 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.000 haven't been to the doctor. I literally haven't been to 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.960 the doctor since I was released from the Kings. But 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.480 we have a doctor in studio with us because none 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.120 of us want to go, so we brought one here. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:12.320 We have call house call for Dr Todd. Welcome, Welcome 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.720 to me. How men thinking? When I first see you Todd, 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.440 I think, dang, that guy should be a football player 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.920 because I wish I had your size. But um, he 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:21.880 is a doctor, and we're gonna ask you a ton 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.920 of questions. You're gonna give us um some overview on 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.320 some things we're dealing with. But for our people listening, 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.280 can you please give them a little bit of your 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.120 history in the medical profession. Sure, thank you for having 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.880 me um. Yes, I am quite large for a for 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.800 a doctor. In fact, when I was in medical school, 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.200 I'm sort of the orthopedic mold, so they would always 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.280 shuffle me off to the orthopedic surgeons to go do 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.640 whatever they did, which is fixing bones and joints typically 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.080 and athletes. But I never really had an interest in that. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.880 I was much more interested in the human part of 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.760 medicine and the cognitive part of medicine, which is what 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.600 I ended up doing, which is family medicine. So I 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.960 trained inside at a family medicine and really that is 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.560 a Swiss Army knife of medicine. We take care of 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.760 about of the problems that come into the office, about 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.880 ten percent of the things we have no idea about, 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.600 and that's what we refer to specialists for specialists, on 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.040 the other hand, each deal with their own little world 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.800 of medicine and have no idea what the other is doing. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.840 So we work in between all of those different fields, 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.240 and that that's what I've done for the last twenty 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.639 years of my career, and uh so this is perfect. 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.560 You know a little bit or a lot about everything, 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.280 because we know a little little bit about nothing. So 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.960 we really need you to tell us a little something 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.120 about everything. Correct. I am the educated version of what 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:43.159 quote they quote say. I like it. So we're all 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.680 going here. We've got four guys here, We're going through 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.639 four checkups right now. Here's my first question to you, 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.040 because I don't even know this my whole life. I've 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.159 been on sports teams, we had doctors and physicians and 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.480 everybody in our locker room. I've been out of the 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.359 NHL now for a year and a half and I 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:03.359 haven't seen one doctor. How many times or when should 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.400 I go to the doctor? How many times a year? 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:06.920 What doctor do I go do? I don't even have 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.159 a doctor since I've been done with the king, So 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.280 can you please advise me on how many times a 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:16.560 year I should be coming to see you? Sure? Um, well, 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.840 that that is a very good question. And I think 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.640 that there's a lot of different people who have stakes 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.680 in that answer. One of them are the primary care 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.359 provider organizations like the American Medical Association that wants people 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.400 to come into the office. They think that's the best 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:36.240 place to anticipate problems. For four primary care deal with 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.520 current issues, and they would say come in once a year, 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.000 once a year, Okay, Um. The truth is, when we 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.000 look at the evidence and long term studies, we're not 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.560 pent sure is a medical community that that really changes outcomes. 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.520 We do think that there are certain screening procedures done, 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:55.120 it's different outcome at different intervals that might change outcomes. 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.639 For instance, colon cancer screening, we recommend that for everybody 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:02.520 starting at I'm forty five and a half, it used 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:08.560 to be it used to be right, well, it used 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.159 to be fifty. It used to be fifty that they 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.200 got changed to forty five. So that's a perfect example. 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:15.560 Or prostate cancer screening. Lots of guys don't like to 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:18.919 go to the doctor. No, no, yeah, so lots of 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:22.000 people are prostate cancer screening. So there's a lot of 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.720 debate about these things. But but the reason my point 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:26.960 is maybe coming in once a year would be a 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.880 reasonable cadence in a person let's say over thirty five 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:35.119 years of age and let's say under fifty um, to 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.480 come in once a year to talk about these guidelines. 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.280 To talk about what's out there, maybe say hey, there's 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.400 something new in my family history. So I think once 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.720 a year would be reasonable. And what the question if 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:46.879 it's once a year is that even if you feel 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:52.680 perfectly fine, you're healthy, there are no ailments because to 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.159 speak to what you were saying at the beginning, is 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.679 that not I've heard that the insurance industry is in 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:02.040 the state that it's in because people come in too 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:05.920 often and that's driving up you know, it just becomes 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:07.560 a huge night amber where people are coming in when 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:11.280 when it's unnecessary. So that's a great question, and there's 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.600 really two different answers to that. One of them is 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.360 a population based answer, which is if we're talking talking 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.000 about the US population, first, are we talking about you? 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.119 What do you want? If do you want you know, 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.320 the best possible outcomes for yourself, Do you want a 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.000 lot of supervision or you know, when we say, look, 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:31.160 we're going to prevent five cases out of a hundred thousand, 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.600 you know, do you want to be one of those 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:37.800 cases it's not prevented because you weren't there. It's sort 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.480 of what your approaches and do you play the statistics 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:42.239 and how do you think about things, what is your 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.680 level of anxiety? But I used usually tell people that 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:48.840 most people don't see a doctor very often between seventeen 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.159 and thirty five. The last visit is when their mom 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:52.919 takes them in before they go to college, and the 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.320 first business right after they get engaged. That's you know so, 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:58.840 and then so there is a big bald spot in 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.679 there where doctor page and start releasing. People don't come 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:03.760 in to see the doctor. Once they come in, it's 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:05.800 sort of a slow ramp up, and then usually around 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:07.639 forty five or fifty, the wheels start to fall off 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.200 the wagon. They don't feel good, they're on a hike somewhere, 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:11.960 they start to feel terrible, and they come in and say, 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.600 what's wrong with me? Well, Ryan's anxiety level is off 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.480 the chart, so he should go in like every two months. 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:20.480 I don't ever see a doctor, but we should label 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:22.399 the anxious guy and the group. We almost need to 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:24.080 take a break just so you can have like five 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.840 minutes with arrested to do something on him. Right. Question 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:30.280 about the prostate exams, where is that? Are we talking 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.719 about the finger? Is that what you're referring to? When 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.200 Amy asked if we've ever had it, well, that that's 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.000 a good question. That's my question is that the is 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:42.439 that really the only way to check? So it's really 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.399