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Speaker 2: That department used to be weaponized and politicized. And this

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Speaker 4: I think it was the worst weaponization of a political

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Speaker 5: Meanwhile, the Trump administration is paving the way to make

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Speaker 6: Well, I think, you.

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Speaker 8: Crime or One of the most dangerous things that Donald

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Speaker 1: Have been making the argument that this is bigger than Louisiana.

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Speaker 12: They want they are setting a stage four by by

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Speaker 12: And we've seen again this kind of the flexing of.

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Speaker 12: We are we are headed towards a conflict, a clash

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Speaker 6: This is the primal stream of a dying regime. Pray

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Speaker 6: There's not got a free shot on all these networks

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Speaker 6: Of these people had a conscience.

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Speaker 3: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 4: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 6: Thursday, sixteen October at You're Rouler twenty twenty five. You see,

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Speaker 6: as it's becoming evident every day that they're never going

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Speaker 6: For getting all that, Let's go to the heart. This

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Speaker 6: President Trump has stopped the invasion, at least on the

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Speaker 6: two hours. Let's say with DHS on something you've been

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Speaker 3: Sir, and first off, MSNBC is insurrection media. There are

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Speaker 3: So they talk about deflection, it's projection. They are professional projectionists.

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Speaker 6: They know their days are numbered. Ben social media, so

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Speaker 3: So you want to blame anybody for the mass deportation

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Speaker 6: Ben, be safe today, go with God and be safe.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, so thank you, sir, Ben Berkwam on the

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Speaker 15: Steve, You've tied all of these things magnificently together. Yes,

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Speaker 15: Maloney has just indicated how flexibly the European leaders are

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Speaker 15: actually taking the performative theater behind it all. And she's

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Speaker 15: spending billions of dollars to build a bridge between mainland

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Speaker 15: Italy and Sicily, and she's going to mark that off

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Speaker 15: against this five percent.

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Speaker 16: That is how bad this is.

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Speaker 15: In Germany, however, which you just mentioned in your question, Steve,

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Speaker 15: the Defense Minister Pistorius has brought the coalition that they

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Speaker 15: have there, which is very tenuously held together in.

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Speaker 16: And of itself. He's brought this cosion to the brink

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Speaker 16: because at the last.

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Speaker 15: Moment he's pulled out of an agreement which had been

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Speaker 15: confected between the Christian Democrats, the ruling Christian Democrats, but

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Speaker 15: also the Social Democrats, which was to introduce the lottery

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Speaker 15: system they're calling it in.

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Speaker 16: Germany, but it's basically just the draft.

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Speaker 15: It's they're going to try and meet their two thousand

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Speaker 15: extra two hundred thousand extra troop commitments by introducing those

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Speaker 15: that don't voluntarily present themselves and sign up under the

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Speaker 15: augmented wage condition.

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Speaker 16: They're going to draft by a lottery.

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Speaker 15: And at the last moment Pistorius blinked and said, we're

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Speaker 15: not going to do this Forest pystorics, We're not going

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Speaker 15: to do this.

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Speaker 16: We need to find another way. Steve.

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Speaker 15: The reason is is because he knows this is political

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Speaker 15: suicide in Germany, because the people most at risk of

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Speaker 15: coming out to fight, the youth, are the most against it.

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Speaker 16: That's the backdrop to what's going on here in Europe.

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Speaker 15: You're is you know that they're they're they're feeling the

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Speaker 15: pressure put down by President Trump and they want to

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Speaker 15: fall into line where with his reasonable requests, but they're

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Speaker 15: meeting against the reality of the demographics. The background is

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Speaker 15: in the huge push and we'll talk about this some

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Speaker 15: more stiff, but the huge push behind the President Trump

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Speaker 15: to accommodate President Zelenski is going to fall on the

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Speaker 15: shoulders of Americans.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hang on one second, Hang one second. I want

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Speaker 6: to go through escalate to de escalate. Gold ladies in

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Speaker 6: general as a four thousand, two hundred and seventy eight bucks,

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Speaker 6: it'll blow through forty three hundred sometime over the next

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Speaker 6: couple of days. I believe a rush to a safe

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Speaker 6: haven geopolitical risk, economic warfare risk all broken down and

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Speaker 6: explained to you in the war room.

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Speaker 10: Next, here's your host, Stephen k Back.

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Speaker 6: Okay Birch gold end of the dollar Empire. Four years ago,

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Speaker 6: we told you it was going to come down to

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Speaker 6: a dedollarization, trying to destroy the United States by destroying

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Speaker 6: the financial system of the United States, and it's revvd up. Now.

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Speaker 6: The Chinese Commantist Party, as we have warned, has gone

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Speaker 6: big league in outright economic warfare. This is not unrestricted warfare.

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Speaker 6: They're going to the next phase. Like Ben Berkham's reporting,

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Speaker 6: We're going to the next phase and beginning mass deportations.

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Speaker 6: They're ramping it up to go full out, in your

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Speaker 6: face economic warfare. And we've warned about this forever. This

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Speaker 6: is why we've been the leaders not just in the

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Speaker 6: anti CCP movement, but telling you we have to decouple.

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Speaker 6: If you kick the can down the road, there's only

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Speaker 6: so far. When it comes push comes to shove, they're

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Speaker 6: going to come after us, and they're coming after us.

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Speaker 6: And this is why this Ukraine situation that couse. You

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Speaker 6: have a kinetic part of the war on the western

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Speaker 6: part of the Eurasian land mass, the land mass taken

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Speaker 6: as a whole. Right in Ukraine, in the Bloodlands, you

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Speaker 6: had a brutal, violent over two and a half million casualties,

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Speaker 6: as President Trump reports, about a million eight from the Ukrainians,

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Speaker 6: over a million maybe a million and a half from

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Speaker 6: the Russians. On the opposite side, with the Chinese Commaist Party,

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Speaker 6: the South China Sea, the Taiwan right now, you have

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Speaker 6: the CCP going understanding they have a choke hold on

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Speaker 6: us when it comes to heavy rare earths. This whole

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Speaker 6: reason we're playing foot set with Lula now because the

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Speaker 6: only other part of the world that has it is Brazil.

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Speaker 6: This couldn't get more serious. You're seeing a zero hedge.

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Speaker 6: I'll get this up later. You can grind production lines

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Speaker 6: to a halt, and the Secretary of Interior Burgram and

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Speaker 6: you know, building the two hundred mile road, gravel road

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Speaker 6: into Alaska. This is all great. It needs to be

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Speaker 6: done immediately. It should have been done years ago. But

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Speaker 6: it's no time now to be pointing. Fingers are blame.

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Speaker 6: You got to get on with it. And but we're

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Speaker 6: at full scale economic war. Why is gold exploding? We

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Speaker 6: told you what was going to happen. It has always

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Speaker 6: been a hedge against geopolitical risks. Now banks are saying, hey,

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Speaker 6: guess what. Maybe this euro is not really an asset.

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Speaker 6: Maybe US government debt is not an asset I should

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Speaker 6: have as an asset class. Maybe I should load up

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Speaker 6: more on gold golds at forty two seven. Not remember

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Speaker 6: the team. Do not miss that, Okay, the two sides

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Speaker 6: of this war. Ben Harnwell is Zelensky's coming tomorrow. Seeing

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Speaker 6: the striking power of the Tomahawk, which is a nineteen

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Speaker 6: seventies technology that was out in the fleet when I

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Speaker 6: was a young officer back in the late seventies. A

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Speaker 6: nineteen seventies technology had been updated. The striking power against

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Speaker 6: the Persians above ground nuclear facilities wiped them out with

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Speaker 6: thirty tomahawks delivered from Navy submarines was not lost on Zelensky.

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Speaker 6: And the striking power, I don't know, goes fifteen hundred miles.

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Speaker 6: It puts Moscow and maybe even Saint Petersburg in target

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Speaker 6: range of Zelensky. The Russians have come out and they

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Speaker 6: said the Sun a newspaper in England reporting what two million.

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Speaker 6: They're prepared to call up two million troops if this happens.

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Speaker 6: At the same time, their partners, the Chinese Commers Party,

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Speaker 6: are saying, hey, double down, triple down, because we're about

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Speaker 6: to grind America's production capability. When I say not some

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Speaker 6: theoretical capacity, I mean production lines of our heaviest manufacturers

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Speaker 6: grinding to a halt. Ben Harnwell, your thoughts in assessment, sir.

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Speaker 15: The limit the range of the tomahawks is around, as

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Speaker 15: you say, one and a half thousands of miles, and

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Speaker 15: it has huge destructive capacity.

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Speaker 16: But that's not why Zelenski wants them. Zelenski wants them

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Speaker 16: because he wants you, guys in the war war.

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Speaker 15: He has no chance of winning this war without America

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Speaker 15: involved kinetically in this war against Russia.

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Speaker 16: That's why he wants these tomahawks. He wants you to

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Speaker 16: supply them to him via NATO or whatever.

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Speaker 15: But he wants America to supply him the missiles and

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Speaker 15: give him the intellet intelligence in order to direct them

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Speaker 15: hit targets.

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Speaker 16: And Moscow is well within that one.

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Speaker 15: And a half thousand miles range that issues from his perspective,

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Speaker 15: steam it makes perfect sense. What doesn't make sense is

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Speaker 15: why President Trump hasn't stamped this out.

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Speaker 16: When it was first floated.

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Speaker 15: It is not in America's interest to be dragged into

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Speaker 15: this war.

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Speaker 16: That is what Zelenski is trying.

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Speaker 6: Well, hang on, hang on, hang on, to hang on,

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Speaker 6: hang on. I know by the way they want us

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Speaker 6: as a combatant, and President Trump, let's be blunt. In

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Speaker 6: the Persian in the Twelve Day War, we were a combatant.

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Speaker 6: We started off immediately. The Israelis dragged us in immediately

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Speaker 6: as defensive We had Ages class cruisers and it sent

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Speaker 6: to the Eastern Mediterranean. We gave twenty five percent of

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Speaker 6: our dads. We sent Patriot missiles. They could not defend themselves.

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Speaker 6: The reason this war came to an end in twelve days.

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Speaker 6: President Trump knew that Tel Aviv was getting crushed because

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Speaker 6: they couldn't stop the onslaught coming from the Persians. Forget

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Speaker 6: the offensive capability, which they did not have. They depended

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Speaker 6: upon the United States deliver. But President Trump sees something,

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Speaker 6: talk give me a minute or two on escalation, to

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Speaker 6: de escalate. I think his bed here is that everything

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Speaker 6: he's tried to do with Russia, with Putin, he would

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Speaker 6: be the first smit hasn't worked so far, right, So

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Speaker 6: he's going to threaten escalation to finally get Putin's attention.

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Speaker 6: Do you buy that or you think we're headed down

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Speaker 6: the road to perdition that then we're going to get

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Speaker 6: to be an act of combatant, Sir Steve, Russia.

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Speaker 15: Is not the vassal state of America that Israel is.

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Speaker 16: Israel can be at the end of the day, Israel

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Speaker 16: can be ordered what to do by America.

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Speaker 15: And Trump did it maggnificently, right, he did. Trump did

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Speaker 15: it magnificently. Russia is not the vast same vassal state

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Speaker 15: for Russia. This is an existential issue. Okay, why is

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Speaker 15: this escalated, d escate not going to work? You can

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Speaker 15: look at it now, the day before the White House

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Speaker 15: summit between Lensky and Trump, what has been the Russian

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Speaker 15: position today? They are now floating that they were called

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Speaker 15: up to two.

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Speaker 16: Million reservists to come and fight in Ukraine. Two million

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Speaker 16: reservists reserves.

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Speaker 15: That builds Steven what I was saying just before the

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Speaker 15: break about the fact that you're so called allies here

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Speaker 15: in Europe aren't with you. They are performative and they

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Speaker 15: are theatrics. For America goes into this war, Steve, America

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Speaker 15: goes in effectively alone.

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Speaker 16: That's the point and the lat Yes, I can.

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Speaker 15: Only give credit to the Russians on this that the

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Speaker 15: day before this meeting is taking place, Russia is not

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Speaker 15: threatening and threatening a nuclear response. Russia's response to this

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Speaker 15: moment as of today, as of this moment, is maintaining

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Speaker 15: itself within the sphere of conventional warfare.

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Speaker 6: You supply.

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Speaker 15: The tomahawks, you supply Zelensky with the tomahawk, and we

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Speaker 15: will we will conscript two million people to give and fight.

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Speaker 15: Credits to the Russians, they don't because if they weren't

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Speaker 15: showing this maturity.

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Speaker 6: They don't care how many they don't, clouds, they don't,

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Speaker 6: they don't care. They don't care how many people either

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Speaker 6: side put into the meat grinder. This is one of

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Speaker 6: the reasons that they're having call ups and all this

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Speaker 6: stuff in Europe. They ain't sending any troops. This is

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Speaker 6: a kill zone. It's not called the Bloodlens for nothing. Okay,

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Speaker 6: one point eight million and I'm quoting the President of

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Speaker 6: the United States. One point eight million Ukrainians dead or

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Speaker 6: wounded a million to one point five million Russians. That's

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Speaker 6: you're talking roughly three million people since the start of

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Speaker 6: this war. And we warned everybody this was going to happen.

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Speaker 6: So I don't want to hear all the happy talk

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Speaker 6: and MSNBC and CNN for Amril Stavritas and General Clark

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Speaker 6: and all these clowns that got us in this situation

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Speaker 6: in Russia. Let me be blunt. They're calling our bluff.

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Speaker 6: They're saying, Okay, you give him tomahawks. We're gonna increase

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Speaker 6: this thing, and next stop is KIV, and we'll see

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Speaker 6: you there defending Kiv. The kinetic part of this war.

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Speaker 6: We're getting sucked into it. President Trump magnificently shut down

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Speaker 6: the Israelis when they try the israel First crowd, when

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Speaker 6: they try to get us involved in the decapitation and

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Speaker 6: regime change in Persia. He ended that with the with

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Speaker 6: the total obliteration strike from our B two's and the

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Speaker 6: United States Navy with the Tomahawks. We avoided that right,

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Speaker 6: and I think, quite frankly, ended up with a not

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Speaker 6: a great deal for Israel. I think the two state solution,

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Speaker 6: particularly with Cutter financing it and the Turks providing security.

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Speaker 6: I just don't see this working in Israel's best interest

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Speaker 6: over time. But I tell you they're gonna They're calling

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Speaker 6: our bluff right now. This meeting with Zelenski couldn't be

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Speaker 6: more important tomorrow, And I know President Trump the master negotiator.

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Speaker 6: If ever we needed Trump at peak Trump, we need

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Speaker 6: him tomorrow at peak Trump, because we are getting sucked

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Speaker 6: in and the Chinese this, this is why they've dropped

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Speaker 6: the hammer. They walked away from the commitments they made

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Speaker 6: in June and July on rare earth, rare earths that

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Speaker 6: Secretary Bessant and our trade representative of Peter Navarre all

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Speaker 6: that team made, they've walked away from it. Why they

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Speaker 6: understand now it's a time to call the United States bluff.

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Speaker 6: You guys are such tough guys. Let's see it. Let's

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Speaker 6: see if you've got the capacity. Let's see if you

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Speaker 6: can actually keep a production line going without the rare

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Speaker 6: earth that. Oh, by the way, we bought the processing

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Speaker 6: company out of Ohio back in twenty fifteen, and Obama

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Speaker 6: and these guys said nothing about it. They understand leverage,

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Speaker 6: and they understand leverage points. And right now, this is

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Speaker 6: like the summer of nineteen thirty nine. This is where

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Speaker 6: we are. It couldn't be more dangerous, and one bad

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Speaker 6: move the whole thing could come tumbling down. Why do

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Speaker 6: you think Gold's on a roll right now? Ben Harnwell,

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Speaker 6: where do people go to your social media to get

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Speaker 6: all your information?

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Speaker 15: Thanks to you, I'll be updating this as evidence for hours, obviously,

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Speaker 15: Getter Steve, it's my social media platform of choice.

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Speaker 16: Just tapping my surname Palm Well and there I am.

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Speaker 15: Give me thirty seconds to respond to what you just

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Speaker 15: said about BB and coming out with a bad deal

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Speaker 15: at the end of this. You're right, he did come

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Speaker 15: out with a deal which wasn't great. But I happened

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Speaker 15: to think, and perhaps.

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Speaker 16: We can talk about this at another point.

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Speaker 15: I happened to think, actually, if anybody else had been

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Speaker 15: Prime Minister of Israel over the past thirty days, they

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Speaker 15: would have come out with a better deal than what

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Speaker 15: BB did.

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Speaker 16: Effectively, BB deceived President.

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Speaker 15: Trump over the situation with regards to Iran, backed up

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Speaker 15: by the israel first stooges in the United States, and

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Speaker 15: President Trump wanted to free himself of that.

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Speaker 16: And I think he, as.

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Speaker 15: You say, as I say, he acted magnificently, But I

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Speaker 15: think anyone else, had anyone else being Prime Minister of Israel,

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Speaker 15: they might have actually been able to persuade President to

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Speaker 15: give them a better deal.

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Speaker 16: But bbe got what he deserved, get us Steven.

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately, what he deserved is now going to have massive

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Speaker 6: implications for Israel and for the United States for years

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Speaker 6: to come. I'm just telling you, we got a proto

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Speaker 6: Palestinian state with a foothold in Israel, financed by Cutter

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Speaker 6: on one hand, and people know where I stand on Cutter.

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Speaker 6: They're the rail head of the Muslim Brotherhood. In fact,

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Speaker 6: the convening authorities, and I understand President Trump was looking

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Speaker 6: for a deal, but the pressure about the hostages, and look,

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Speaker 6: the hostages is a terrible situation. It's a terrible situation.

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Speaker 6: But what would the leaders of Israel done in sixty

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Speaker 6: seven and seventy three? Just the Hoshaes are casually a

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Speaker 6: war and we can't be held up by it. We

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Speaker 6: can't be held up by these terrorists. Are going to

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Speaker 6: put the gunder ahead on that. You gotta be tough,

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Speaker 6: You got to be hard. Like I said from the

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Speaker 6: day that we covered it live October seventh, if you've

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Speaker 6: got to go through hell, you have to go through

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Speaker 6: as quickly as possible. That's not what happened, and kind

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Speaker 6: of we are where we are. But I'm telling you

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Speaker 6: the situation in Ukraine, the situation of the Chinese Communist

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Speaker 6: Party couldn't be more dangerous. And the international gold market

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Speaker 6: is telling you that Ben harnwill thank you so much

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Speaker 6: for joining us, appreciate you. We're going to take a

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Speaker 6: short break. Gabe Kaminsky's going to join us. He's got

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Speaker 6: a scoop, a massive scoop about the Secretary Treasury in

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Speaker 6: the Treasury Department. At the same time, Brian Schwartz and

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Speaker 6: the team of the Wall Street Journal dropped a bomb

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Speaker 6: about the IRS. President Trump and his administration is getting

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Speaker 6: very real and very focused when we talk about taking

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Speaker 6: down the deep state. Things are happening and things are moving,

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Speaker 6: and this couldn't come at a more critical time. On

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Speaker 6: what I think is everything we got going on is

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Speaker 6: one of the most if not the most important thing

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Speaker 6: we have to do. Okay, I have a short get

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Speaker 6: a short access to the situation with gold by just

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Speaker 6: texting taking Bannon BA N N O N text Bannon

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Speaker 6: at nine eight nine eight nine eight. The Ultimate Guide

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Speaker 6: happens to be free for investing in gold and precious

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Speaker 6: metals in the age of Trump. Talks about the four

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Speaker 6: to one ks and iras. All that get it, read it.

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Speaker 6: Talk to Philip Patrick the team at Birch's.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 5: The Trump administration is paving the way to make it

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Speaker 5: easier for the IRS to criminally investigate left leaning groups,

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Speaker 5: including major Democratic donors that supporting to new reporting from

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Speaker 5: the Wall Street Journal. The paper reports quote the undertaking

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Speaker 5: aims to install allies of President Trump at the IRS

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Speaker 5: Criminal Investigative Division to exert Firmer control over the unit

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Speaker 5: and weaken the involvement of IRS lawyers, adding quote, the

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Speaker 5: proposed changes could open the door to politically motivated probes.

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Speaker 5: The effort is being driven by a top advisor to

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Speaker 5: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant, who is also serving as acting

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Speaker 5: IRS Commissioner.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Gabe Kaminski from the Free Press is going to

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Speaker 6: join us. He had a scoop. Now here's how you

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Speaker 6: got to think about this. Gabe's story is the predicate

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Speaker 6: for the I R S story. Gabe, Gabe, your scoop

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Speaker 6: is about the Treasury Department in this line of work.

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Speaker 6: Walk us through what you found out about Treasure Treasury

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Speaker 6: and why it's kind of a predicate and or a

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Speaker 6: bridge to what's going to happen at the IRS.

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Speaker 2: Sir, Yes, Steve, thanks for having me again.

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Speaker 17: What we reported at the Free Press yesterday is that

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Speaker 17: the Treasury Department's Financial and Crimes Enforcement Network, also known

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Speaker 17: as VINCENT, which is in office within the US Treasure

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Speaker 17: Department that investigates money laundering and terrorists financing domestically and overseas.

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Speaker 17: We reported that that office is encouraging financial financial institutions

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Speaker 17: i e. Banks to report any information to the US

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Speaker 17: government on what they call suspected domestic terrorist activity, and

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Speaker 17: so the Treasury Department this is part of a broader

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Speaker 17: move within the entire Trump administration. And as you said

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Speaker 17: that Wall Street Journal story on the IRS for the

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Speaker 17: Trump administration to in its mind go after left leaning

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Speaker 17: or Antifa what it calls antifa funding networks after the

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Speaker 17: assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 6: See, this is part of the whole. This is why

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Speaker 6: getting the designation as a domestic terrorist organization and now

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Speaker 6: hopefully international terrorist organs so important. Just tell me when

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Speaker 6: you use two terms, brother, does the fear of God

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Speaker 6: and these people money laundering and terrorists financing? You've got

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Speaker 6: literally the pros from Dover Treasury that the heart the

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Speaker 6: pipe hitters over there that know this backwards and forwards

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Speaker 6: now focused on people that may be doing this to

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Speaker 6: fund these organizations in the United States. Is do I

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Speaker 6: read that correctly?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, that is correct, and I think it does demonstrate

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Speaker 17: the sort of seriousness of how the Trump administration is

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Speaker 17: claiming to be aiming to go after these.

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Speaker 2: Sort of funding networks.

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Speaker 17: I think the real big questions, and this is a

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Speaker 17: question that I pose to a former senior IRS attorney

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Speaker 17: who he quoted in the story, is how the Trump administration,

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Speaker 17: through any of these investigations, is going to aim to

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Speaker 17: adequately connect funding to what it calls Antifa. And I

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Speaker 17: think the point I'm saying that is that Antifa is

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Speaker 17: not There's not one and for organization. It's not a

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Speaker 17: registered charity, it's not a five to one C four,

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Speaker 17: it's not a super pack. It's pretty decentralized in grassroots

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Speaker 17: there are, it's a.

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Speaker 2: Left wing movement.

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Speaker 17: And so in order for the Trump administration to adequately

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Speaker 17: sanction and go after its funding networks, there needs to

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Speaker 17: be a determination about what entity it is pursuing and

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Speaker 17: who it is going after. And the reason that is

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Speaker 17: notable is because sort of subsequently or at the same time,

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Speaker 17: the White House has been talking about going after liberal foundations,

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Speaker 17: so including one funded by democratic megadonner George Soros called

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Speaker 17: the Open Society Foundations, as well as the Ford Foundation.

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Speaker 17: And so with the government talking about going after those groups,

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Speaker 17: it only leads the public to believe that it's possible

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Speaker 17: that they are beginning to determine or aiming to investigate

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Speaker 17: whether those organizations funded by democratic mega downers are the

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Speaker 17: ones that they are saying align with these of funding networks.

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Speaker 6: The reason Gabe's story is so important. On MSNBC, they're

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Speaker 6: talking NonStop about there's no antifas is that we say

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Speaker 6: Antifa foot soldiers, you know, on the ground. Then you've

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Speaker 6: got the people that train them. A lot of people

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Speaker 6: that are in the government. The ANTIFA guys are saying

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Speaker 6: that in interviews. People that leave those groups saying, hey, Army,

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Speaker 6: special forces guys, intelligence guys were training us. The most

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Speaker 6: important is the interconnections and the financing. And that's what

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Speaker 6: Treasury is telling you. They're putting their top people on

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Speaker 6: money laundering and terrorist financing to guard for that. This

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Speaker 6: is sending shockways. In fact, Matt Palumbo, who wrote the

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Speaker 6: great Book on Sours and now is about to publish

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Speaker 6: the Book on Sours, is going to be our guest

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Speaker 6: tomorrow based upon when he read When he read Kaminski's

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Speaker 6: reporting about Treasury, he contacted me Way and said, Hey,

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Speaker 6: I got to get up. This is as important as

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Speaker 6: it gets because they are clearly going to be the

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Speaker 6: targets gate before I let you go. And by the way,

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Speaker 6: so Grayce and Moe, We're going to put both stories

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Speaker 6: up and push them both out. They're kind of two

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Speaker 6: signs of a same coin, a whole of government approach

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Speaker 6: Treasury through the Kaminski article at Free Press and then

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Speaker 6: Schwartz at the Wall Street Journal on the Treasury piece. Gabe,

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Speaker 6: this is one of the reasons you're seeing the action

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Speaker 6: and how it's putting a chill on the left. This

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Speaker 6: is one of the reasons I've been one of the

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Speaker 6: strongest advocate in the White House. I tried it, but

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Speaker 6: they just crushed us to designating the Muslim Brotherhood as

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Speaker 6: a terrorist organization. Once you dent these designations, it opens

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Speaker 6: up a whole toolbox at Treasury, at IRS for the

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Speaker 6: hole of government to start looking at these organizations and

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Speaker 6: take them apart. Correct.

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Speaker 2: No, that is absolutely correct.

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Speaker 17: I think the one sort of important caveat to that

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Speaker 17: is Trump issued an executive order that that's purported to

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Speaker 17: be designating Antifa as a domestic terrorist group.

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Speaker 2: I think the really important thing for listeners.

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Speaker 17: And just the public to be aware of is that, really,

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Speaker 17: as we talk about on the show, Antifa is not

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Speaker 17: a single entity, which makes it pretty difficult to sort

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Speaker 17: of designate it as a terrorist group. And moreover, the

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Speaker 17: US government has a mechanism to designate foreign groups as terrorists,

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Speaker 17: as foreign terrorist organizations, but a domestic decentralized group Antifa,

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Speaker 17: it is difficult, and that is why you say, actually,

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Speaker 17: with the Muslim Brotherhood, if the government determines that the

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Speaker 17: Muslim Brotherhood is a single entity, yes, it would be

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Speaker 17: easier to designate.

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Speaker 2: Them, and that would come with financial ramifications.

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Speaker 6: We have to put that at the top of the stack.

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Speaker 6: That's something we're obviously working on behind the scenes as

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Speaker 6: in the first term. But we got the capital moved

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Speaker 6: to Jerusalem, so you got to take it. You got

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Speaker 6: to take a step at a time. Gabe, amazing reporting.

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Speaker 6: Where do people go to get you the free press

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Speaker 6: in your social media?

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Speaker 17: Hey, you can follow me on x at g E

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Speaker 17: Kaminski g E KA m I N s k Y

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Speaker 17: and read all of my reporting at the FP dot com.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, brother, appreciate you. Allison Einberg was on yesterday.

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Speaker 6: She's the young reporter at Lindel TV that got Nancy

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Speaker 6: Pelosi to jump her. She's going to be join us

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Speaker 6: next with some follow up information about why Pelosi freaked

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Speaker 6: out yesterday outside the Capitol in the war robe.