1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong and. 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Jettie and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: They lost a lot of faith in certain people, and yeah, 5 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: they got duped by the Democrats. 6 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 4: President Trump's wiping at what he calls his past supporters, 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 4: calling them weaklings for falling prey to quote Democratic bs 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 4: over what he's now branded the Epstein hoax. 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: Look at the Steele dossier that turned out to be 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: a total hoax. It's perpetrated by the Democrats, and some 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net. 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 4: You're stupid if you believe the whole Epstein thing. And 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: he doesn't want your vote anymore. So we talked about 14 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 4: this yesterday because it happened while we were on the air, 15 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: and we played all the clips for you. It's kind 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: of hard to explain you would use this tact to 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: try to deal with getting out of this mess. So 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk, he is a huge MAGA leader among particularly 19 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: the young crowd. He had that event the other day 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: where a number of right wing hosts say, who thinks 21 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 4: there's a cover up in the crowd, cheers wily wildly 22 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 4: and all that sort of stuff. So then Charlie Kirk 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: put out a statement, what like the next day, Joe 24 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: that it seemed like Trump had given him a call 25 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 4: or something like that. 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Because he said it's own that Trump called him. 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: Okay, and he and Charlie we're going out of a 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 4: statement where he basically said, look, there there's nothing there. 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 4: Let's all move on and make America great again or 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 4: I'm something. He was ready to turn the page. And 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: then I don't know if he got huge blowback from 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 4: his audience or what, but he has sounded different since then, 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: and yesterday this Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk, on 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: his podcast yesterday attempted some damage can on Trump's behalf 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: don't take too seriously the whole truth social Here, Kirk 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: told his audience, I know some people are getting fired 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: up about this. I don't believe he was trying to 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 4: insult anybody personally. All right, well, you know, if you 39 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 4: call me, if you call me stupid and a dupe, 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 4: it seems fairly personal. 41 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: But and Charlie Kirk, counting on the fact that those 42 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: people are stupid and dupes. 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 4: Apparently Still, he expressed frustration about the administration's handling of 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 4: the issue himself. We are now Wednesday, going into Thursday. 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: People are very very confused, and some people are very 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 4: disappointed and mad. Charlie Kirk said, we made so much 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: progress with gen Z and this is a big vulnerability 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 4: online on TikTok, this story is not landing. 49 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: Well, let's fix this and we can. 50 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 4: He does make a good point the Republican Party doing 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: better with young people than it has in my going 52 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 4: back to Reagan, right, and if this is the thing 53 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: that blows it up. But I don't, I don't know. 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 4: Guess where I break down on this story all the time. 55 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: Is it seems so obvious to me what's happened that 56 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: I don't There was never any there there there's not 57 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: a child sex ring being run by Democrats in Hollywood. 58 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: Podcasters were saying it to get clicks and listeners. 59 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: That's what I assumed all along. 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 4: It's true. It turns out to be true. They're even 61 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 4: saying it's true. Right, and it's over. And maybe you 62 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: can be mad at them. If you fell for it 63 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 4: fell forward as a prejudicial you don't fall for something. 64 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: It's not on you. 65 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: If somebody you trust lies to you, that's not your fault. 66 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: You're not a dupe or week or any of those things. 67 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: You trusted somebody and they lied to you. You trusted 68 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: Dan Bongino or Pam Bondi and they lied to you. 69 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: Now you know, I don't know what you. 70 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: Do with that, but right, right, yeah, gosh, dang it. 71 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: This thing has so many tentacles. I think one of 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: the more interesting aspects of this is that the sort 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: of people that would pitch this sort of infotainment, they're 74 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: so much closer to power than they've ever been before. 75 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: On the right in Republican circles, that sort of which 76 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: Hunty all Republicans are racist, bigot, evil, you know, beer swinging, 77 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: cross burning. 78 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: You know, fictions existed on the left very very close 79 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: to power for a very long time. 80 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: But the Republican Party, for you know, try to be 81 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: the party of realists and grown ups and the rest 82 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: of it. You know. I've been reading more about this 83 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 1: sort of thing, not necessarily the Epstein conspiracy theory in general, 84 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: and it's called it's referred to as. 85 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: What's it. 86 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: There's a term for it, pedo critical pedo theory. That's 87 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: got the fair history on the right going back probably 88 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: fifteen years and stuff. It is just those who would 89 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: hook you have realized that certain elements, it's like writing 90 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: a hit song, certain elements like child victims, you know, 91 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: the powerful in the government, evil doers who are fairly 92 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: easily identified, like the Jews, which doesn't factor into every 93 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: version of this, but it factors into a hell of 94 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: a lot of them. 95 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: That's the that's the markers of a hit song. 96 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, all pop music now is completely 97 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: formulaa computer generator. They've realized what trips your triggers. This 98 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: has all of it, and so it's it's super compelling. 99 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: And then you've got people now who are very very 100 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: close to power who used to be pitching it. 101 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: We're working up to the latest polling which will show 102 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 4: you if your attitude is where most of Americas is. 103 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: We did get this text yesterday just to represent a 104 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: chunk of you that we know are out there YouTube 105 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 4: protecting and siding with Petos is shocking and horrible. 106 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not, and never would. That's the point. 107 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 4: I would be calling for the death penalty for all 108 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: of them. If I thought that was happening if hundreds 109 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: of thousands of children were being sex trafficked by the 110 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: Democratic Party and business leaders and maybe some Republicans. 111 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what again, Charlie Kirkin turning point, USA 112 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: have done some great stuff among young people. 113 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: You know, it's a shame. 114 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: It reminds me of certain people I've known who have 115 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: been wonderful in some ways and just utterly corrosive in others. 116 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: But they've done some fabulous things, giving conservative kids, young 117 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: people confidence to speak their beliefs, etc. On the other hand, Charlie, 118 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: I think in the last several days has been the 119 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: perfect illustration of my point of view. This was the 120 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: most important thing in the world, and it must be 121 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: exposed and it must be brought down. Until Donald said, hey, 122 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: would you cool your jets on this? Is this cause 123 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: on Maggus some real problems. And he said, I'm done 124 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: talking about this for now, and I think everybody should 125 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: be and everything's fine. And then he got a backlash 126 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: like later that day from his audience who said no, no, no, 127 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: And so he came out and changed his mind again 128 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: and said, I demand these fifteen things because we've got 129 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of this some entertainment. 130 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: Two things that get conflated a lot, which I think 131 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 4: confused the conversation and maybe some of this polling. I'm 132 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: about to tell you is the difference between documents, the 133 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: case files, and a list. Sometimes those get used interchangeably. 134 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: Is there an Epstein file, Well, of course there is. 135 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: There was an investigation, So there's a file showing an 136 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: investigation that ultimately led nowhere is there a list apparently 137 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: of clients and blackmail? 138 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: No, there is not, so. 139 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: According to people inside and outside and people leaking and 140 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: everything else. But people conflate those two regularly. They said 141 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: there wasn't a file. There is a file, so there 142 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: where's the list? Well, those two different things. 143 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: And as Alan Dershowitz pointed out, lots and lots of 144 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: names come up in an investigation, so you could say 145 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: there's a list of names, but those are being kept 146 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: secret for the reason they always. 147 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: Are, as we discussed earlier. 148 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: If you're not being charged and you just happen to 149 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: be somewhere, the Feds aren't going to come out and say, hey, 150 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: Joe Getty was at that party, by the way, just 151 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: saying they're not in that business. 152 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: Except when James Comey's in charge. 153 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: But when you're firing people up about a list, you mean, 154 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: is there a list of clients? And the listing, you know, 155 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: is proof of blackmail for child molestation, right, and the 156 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 4: blackmail and all that. So here's the polling from Morning consult, 157 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: a respected polling organization, the statement there's no evidence of 158 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: a client list or blackmail scheme involving Epstein and prominent people. 159 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 4: The plurality the biggest number no, at fifty one percent 160 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 4: only so so you know, I don't know why they 161 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 4: present it is no. But so over half or roughly 162 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 4: half of America says yes, there is there is a 163 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 4: blackmail list. 164 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: It exists. 165 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: Only twenty five percent of people say no, There isn't 166 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 4: a quarter people say I don't have any idea, But 167 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 4: so a plurality of America thinks there is a blackmail 168 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: list out there. You want to break it down by party, Democrats, 169 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 4: it's sixty percent of Democrats think there's a list, which 170 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 4: is interesting given the fact that the prevailing thought is 171 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: that it's a Democrats in Hollywood running the child trafficking scheme. 172 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 4: And sixty percent of Democrats think there is a blackmail 173 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: list of that it's only forty one percent of Republicans 174 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: that think it is. So that's where it gets confusing 175 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: on this whole thing. But I guess it could completely fuddled. 176 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 4: But I guess they're all the young crowd and very 177 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 4: worked up about it. And that's why Charlie Kirk speakin 178 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 4: to it, right. But overall, it's half of America now 179 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: on just this question Epstein committed suicide in prison? No 180 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: is the plurality forty two biggest chunk of voters say no, 181 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: twenty three percent say I don't know, only thirty five 182 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 4: percent say only a thirty people say yes, he committed suicide. 183 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: I'd be in that crowd. I believe he committed suicide. 184 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: But the biggest chunk of people, and again you break 185 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 4: it down by Republicans and Democrats, and the theory is that, 186 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 4: like if he was killed, it's the Democrats that did it. Right, 187 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 4: the jokes about Hillary Clinton's sensible shoes click clacking away 188 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 4: through the prison. I don't think Hillary Clinton stuffed him. 189 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: But that's the biggest chunk that believes he didn't commit suicide. Democrats. 190 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 4: Half of Democrats think he did not commit suicide. 191 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: Right, Virtually all of the big names you ever hear 192 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: whispered well spoken out loud these days that it might 193 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: have been partying with him are Democrats, virtually all of them. 194 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: So yeah, this again, I'm completely befuddled. And only thirty. 195 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: Seven percent are Republicans think he commit didn't commit suicide. 196 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 4: So it doesn't fit with the narrative of everything we're 197 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: hearing the last couple of times, right, except that shouldn't 198 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 4: Trump be in shouldn't Trump be talking about all the 199 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: Democrat dupes have felt for it based on this polling. 200 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent, And shouldn't be addressing his followers 201 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: at all? 202 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: Why would he? 203 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: Again? I get his frustration, but it was dumb politics. 204 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: So what I was about to say was the thing 205 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: you have to remember, because they're just pulling Democrats and Republicans, 206 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: is that there are subsets of both of those parties. 207 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's obvious within the Democratic Party because it's 208 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: just a mosaic of completely unrelated grievance groups that have said, 209 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: all right, i'll yell about your grievance if you'll yell 210 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: about mine, okay, And we're all borderline Marxists, so everybody 211 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: knows that that's a patchwork. But within conservatism, within the 212 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: Republican Party, I should say, now you have classic conservatives 213 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: have salted the earth's red state, maga folks, you have 214 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: online Pizzagate types, you have you know, to various other 215 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, stripes of Republicanism. So yeah, it's a plurality 216 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: of Republicans that say now that it's more or less 217 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: unfolded the way it seems it unfolded. But there is 218 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: a substantial minority that thinks very very differently. 219 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 4: But you know, and I'm ready to be done talking 220 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 4: about this, but the media narrative of the last several days, 221 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: since its mainstream media and left media that loves this 222 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 4: story so much, and talking about conspiracy minded Republicans, it 223 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 4: would appear there are more conspiracy minded Democrats than there 224 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 4: are Republicans. And since they probably weren't listening to Dan 225 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 4: Bongino or Pam Bondi, where did they come by their 226 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: conspiracy That's what I'm confused by. 227 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: They're not listening to the Dan Bongino podcast every day. 228 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: Right, So other plank in the conspiracy platform coming up 229 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: in a little bit, got a great email about it too. 230 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: What it boils down to, it's because it become a symbol. 231 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: Pretty good insight. We'll get to that in a little 232 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: bit too. 233 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 4: If you can figure out the confusion around this where 234 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 4: it seems to be more Democrats and Republicans that are 235 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 4: into this story text line four one five two nine 236 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: five k ftcar. 237 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: Some more political news. Trump is so facing criticism for 238 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: his handling of the Epstein files. 239 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the excuses are getting worse and worse today. Trump 240 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 3: was like a doug ate the Epstein files. 241 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: Then people in Ohio ate the dog. That's pretty funny joke. 242 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,599 Speaker 4: Here's the story for you will get to do. You 243 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: know who Steve Miller is. Some people call what is 244 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 4: the Pomptous of Love. Some people call me the space cowboy. 245 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: That Steve Miller has canceled his tour because of climate change, 246 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 4: and his statement is ridiculous, even though I'm a giant fan. 247 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: Of his music, He's an ignoramus. So we got that 248 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: coming up. 249 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: The number of guitar heroes who are morons is surprising. 250 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: Anyway. 251 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: A couple of things very quickly, A couple of emails. 252 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: Robert Julaine Maxwell wasn't even arrested until a year after 253 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: Epstein's death. Yes, I got that timeline wrong. I apologize 254 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: deeply and humbly thank you for the email. I like 255 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: this from a frequent correspondent to me to the initials, 256 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: I just thought I would chime in about the whole 257 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: Epstein infatuation. Way I see it, Epstein is transcended being 258 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: the image of a person and become a symbol, my opinion, 259 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: symbolizes two things that deeply unnerve the right, if not all, 260 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: of America. One, we American citizens never get answers anymore 261 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: on things like this, like pervos in power. There's always 262 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: some investigation that manages to find nothing but relevant facts 263 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: are locked away behind a court order. Sure too, the 264 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: belief to the belief that there's a two tier system 265 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: of justice. We all know there is has Hunter Biden 266 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: and convicted of anything? Well, actually he was, but that 267 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: he was pardoned. Did Jesse Smollett serve any time? Did 268 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: he as innocent of everything? Right? Remember oj Simpson? Of 269 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: course there's old Ted Kennedy. You never answered for anything. 270 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: Epstein is a symbol of the idea that no matter 271 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: how bad you are, as long as you're well connected, 272 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: you'll never truly have to answer to the American people. 273 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: There is that failing out there. 274 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 4: Who leaked the Supreme Court decision to try to discredit 275 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 4: the Supreme Court. 276 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: No answer, right, right, yeah, yeah. It's really frustrating. 277 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: So if I were in the business of like perpetuating QAnon, Pizzagate, 278 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: Epstein conspiracy theory type stuff, I would be going heavy 279 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: on this, and they probably will be by noon today 280 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: if they aren't already. The Justice Department just fired a 281 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: prosecutor in Manhattan, a woman by the name of Maureen Komy. 282 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: My last name sound vaguely familiar. She's the daughter of 283 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: James Comy. I hope dot dot cover up, dot dot 284 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: dot something something just it writes itself. 285 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 4: I don't know about a cover up, but I hope 286 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: that she was fired just as part of the They're 287 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 4: firing people in Justice Apartment and lots of different departments. 288 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: And not specifically because he hates James call me so much. Wait, 289 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: there's more, Jack. 290 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: She was also a prosecutor who worked on the and 291 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: she took a leading role in the Julane Maxwell case 292 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: and was part of the Epstein investigation. 293 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: All right, so were one hundred FBI officers according to 294 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,239 Speaker 4: hundreds of FBI officers, which is nuts. 295 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, But my point it is, indeed I have one, 296 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: is is that you would have to work as hard 297 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: to debunk all of this as the people are working 298 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: to bunk it. In other words, James Freaking Comy's daughter, 299 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: who was investigating both of these scumbags, just get fired 300 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: by the Trump administration. I don't have enough time in 301 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: my day to build a case where that has an 302 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: innocent explanation because it sounds thirty as. 303 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: L it does. 304 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 4: You don't get to see Steve Miller on tour because 305 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 4: of climate change, among other things. 306 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: On the way Armstrong and Getty, Stevie Wonder denied rumors 307 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: that he's not really blind. 308 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: True, the guy had nine kids with five. 309 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: Different women and he thought he was being faithful. 310 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: We did that whole story the other day. 311 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 4: Stevie Wonder apparently is blind, but has played into that 312 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: joke for many, many years, which is kind of funny. 313 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: He does have nine kids with five women, which lots 314 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: of musicians, athletes, etc. Do and we just kind of 315 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: turn a blind eye to that very odd lifestyle. I'm 316 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: speaking of musicians named Steve a different one Steve Miller. 317 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 4: What's your favorite Steve Miller band song? Had to beat 318 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 4: the Joker. 319 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it's like you're asking me 320 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: to pick my favorite kid. I don't. 321 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: I love them all. 322 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 4: Steve Miller, whose Greatest Hits album was like the number 323 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 4: one selling album in the in the world for years 324 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 4: and years and years and years because all his giant 325 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 4: hits were on there. Interesting story. I remember when he 326 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 4: was on Charlie Rose a couple of years back and 327 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 4: he played the Joker alone with a guitar for Charlie Rose, 328 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 4: and it was very, very good. But you see, some 329 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: people call him the space cowboy. But he told the 330 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 4: story about how he he had he put out an 331 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 4: album giant hits. He was like the biggest thing in 332 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 4: all of music, and then the record company tried to 333 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 4: tell him what to do and he just said no 334 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 4: and had to leave music. He left the music business 335 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 4: rather than do what they told him to do because 336 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 4: he's just like, I. 337 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: Don't have to I'm rich now, screw you. 338 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: Well, and he was an actual like kippie yeah, I 339 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: mean nonformist hippie. 340 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: Well, he has canceled this tour. I would have actually 341 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 4: paid to go see Steve Miller, but he's not going 342 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 4: to tour because of it's not safe, the unacceptable risks 343 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 4: of natural disasters. What yes, you put out this post yesterday. 344 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 4: He's supposed to tour starting like in August, in a 345 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 4: couple of weeks and for many, many months around the country. 346 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 4: He cannot put his people in the band and the 347 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 4: crowd who would come to see him in harm's way 348 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: with all the natural disasters that are happening due to 349 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 4: climate change. 350 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: Here's his statement. 351 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: You make music with your instincts, You live life by 352 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: your instincts. Always trust your instincts. The Steve Miller Band 353 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 4: is canceled all of our upcoming dates. The combination of 354 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 4: extreme heat, unpredictable flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes, massive forest fires. A 355 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: forest fire was going to get your concert made these 356 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 4: risks for the audience and my band and crew unacceptable. 357 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: So when was the last time of flood canceled a 358 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: concert like in progress? 359 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: Steve, So you can blame it on the weather. The 360 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 4: tour is canceled. I don't know where, I don't know when. 361 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 4: We hope to see you again. Wishing you peace, love 362 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 4: and happiness. Please take care of each other, Steve, the 363 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: band and crew. 364 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, my instincts say you're an octagenarian hippie whose mind 365 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: doesn't work right anymore. 366 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're here an eighty something hippie who's like, really, 367 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 4: you're probably taking in the most ridiculous Twitter feeds yourself. 368 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 369 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 4: Chrissy Hind, also an ancient rocker of The Pretenders, set 370 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago at an outdoor concert. Outdoor 371 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 4: concerts will be coming to a close soon. We won't 372 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: be able to do it anymore because it's so hot. 373 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 4: I've had to stripe ass ice packs to my waist 374 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: to survive this. It's because you're an old woman. You're 375 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: now an old woman out of heat. It's not the 376 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 4: same as being twenty five. Those are hot flashes, she's 377 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: feeling exactly. Yeah, she's a little old fraud flashes. But anyway, 378 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 4: that's pretty funny, these old hippies. 379 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: I mean, that's you. 380 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 4: Can believe climate change all you want, but the idea 381 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 4: that it's not safe for your crew because of the 382 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 4: floods that happen in Texas or earthquake somewhere, whatever the 383 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 4: hell I mean, it's just what is how when's the 384 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 4: last time anybody died at a concert in America because 385 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: of anything? Climate change? Related, or you could even claim 386 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: was climate change related. 387 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: I know, that's that's hilarious. I know, and it's so 388 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: wildly disconnected from reality. It's it's it's almost beyond hilarious. 389 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: It's troubling. And I'll bet there's somebody listening. And if 390 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: that's you, feel free to email us mail bag at 391 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: armstrong andgeddi dot com. But there has got to be 392 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: like a known psychological profile about the sort of person 393 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: who defines themselves so completely with being cause oriented that they'll, 394 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: you know, even at their advanced age, sees onto what 395 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: seems to be the hot cause of the day and 396 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: throw themselves into it with one hundred percent a conviction, 397 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: but more importantly, one hundred percent belief in whatever they 398 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: have to believe to make that conviction seem righteous all 399 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: of them that it defines them completely. 400 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 4: I can't imagine what all goes into scheduling a major tour, 401 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 4: the logistics, the venues, the ticket sales, the sponsors. There 402 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: had to be tons of sponsors like Ford and Verizon Wireless. 403 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: Last night they were like, what, yeah, you're canceling, but 404 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 4: there are like eight thousand concert tours that are gonna 405 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: be going on this summer of various sizes and they're 406 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 4: all gonna be fine. 407 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, good lord, that is just loney tunes. You can't 408 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: you can't argue logically to somebody who comes to that conclusion. 409 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: That's like the ancient Armstrong and Getting principle of if 410 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: you see somebody doing something so incredibly crazy, you can't 411 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: explain to them why it's crazy. 412 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: Forget it, you're wasting your time. 413 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: The doing of the act is evidence that it's that 414 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: you can't reason with them. Monni slightly less Steve Miller, 415 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: although your your sponsors, look, you're doing business with the 416 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: crazed old hippie do crazy things, all right, You just 417 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: got to accept that the probably ought to have a 418 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: rider in the contract or insurance or something. 419 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 2: Anyway, I found this so interesting. 420 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: Katie Grime's doing some great writing for the California Globe 421 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: as usual, and it's about cal Unicornia and Gavin Newsom 422 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: and the shameless climate grift and how many trillions of 423 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: dollars have been spent needlessly. 424 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: And one of the more interesting. 425 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: Aspects of it is and she quotes Gavey, who's just 426 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: been a average cheerleader for this grift, but she points 427 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: out that one of the main parts of it is 428 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: that we've got to replace all of the like fossil 429 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: fuel generated electric power with green electric power, windmills, unicorn farts, 430 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, solar or whatever. 431 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: But as this couple of. 432 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: Scientists are recording in this article, but as one of 433 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: them points out, only twenty percent of the world's energy 434 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: consumption is electrical at all. So if that were entirely green, 435 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: well thanks, I mean that helped a little bit, but 436 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: very very little. Supplying eighty percent of the world's primary energy, coal, oil, 437 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: and natural gas make up the lifeblood of modern civilization. 438 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: They power everything that's not electrical, and so it's just 439 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: a myth that if we can go green on the 440 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: electric grid, we will have won the battle and we 441 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: can eliminate fossil fuels. It's not even close. It's a tiny, 442 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: tiny fraction. And then let's see who is this VJ 443 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: jaijiraal Giraj writes, consensus on climate change is become a 444 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: form of bullying, intimidation, and censorship. Katie rites, which is 445 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: exactly what Julie from Canada tried to do. A blah 446 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: blah bah. It's been used to bludget and attack the 447 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: character of anyone who questions the very shallow claims. It 448 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: is a cult completely forced from science and reality. And 449 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: the larger problem with these climate change cultists is they 450 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: lack humility and any interest in self reflection. And it 451 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: goes into a great deal of detail on that and 452 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: how it's an excuse just to control things, which is 453 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: usually what the left wants to do. But they're one 454 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: other update. This is also in the Californian Globe, written 455 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: by somebody else. You know California's vaunted famous cap and 456 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: trade program where corporations have to pay for the right 457 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: to pollute, and if some other company isn't polluting, they 458 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: can sell their shares on the free market cap and 459 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: trade program, and that is going to take care of 460 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: climate change and also raise a bunch of money for California. Well, 461 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: it reminds me of that internet meme. How it started, 462 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: how it's going. So there's an auction every year, and 463 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: in past years the state has actually turned a profit 464 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: with these auctions, offset with business revenue. Ten years ago, 465 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: the state made one and a half billion dollars with 466 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: cap and trade auctions. But the market for it has 467 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: gone down, down, down, as fewer and fewer companies are 468 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: interested in participating in it, and California is going to 469 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: lose three billion dollars a year starting this year on 470 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: the cap and trade auctions. It's it's a miserable failure. 471 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: Hasn't worked. 472 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: Have you ever when you bought an airline ticket checked 473 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 4: that box where you like, donate some money to offset 474 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 4: your carbon footprint? 475 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 2: Who are you talking to You must not be talking 476 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: to me. How many people do that? And have I 477 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: ever met anybody who did that? I think? 478 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, no, no. 479 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: No, I will not do that. 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I'll bet if 508 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 4: he flies southwest he checks the little box of I 509 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 4: need to offset my carbon credits and donate one hundred dollars. 510 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 4: What do you think they're doing with that money, you joker? Yeah, yeah, 511 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 4: that's hilarious. It kind of makes me sad that a 512 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 4: lot of things make me sad with the modern world 513 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 4: in the Internet. 514 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: But it used to be I didn't know a damn 515 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: thing about what Steve Miller thought. Any of my musical heroes, 516 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: you can guess, like between the lines of the lyrics. 517 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: Maybe they do an interview with the Rolling Stone and 518 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: they say something. But you know they're smart, they're savvy there, 519 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: Like Michael Jordan. They're like, hey, I make music. I'm 520 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: not going to lecture people about who ought to be 521 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: in Congress. Why would I do that. It's getting in 522 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: the way of my thing. Uh. 523 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: One of the best developments to happen yet between the 524 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 4: United States and Ukraine. Absolutely, I don't see how you 525 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 4: could argue with this thing that Trump and Zolensky are 526 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 4: trying to get a deal going. If this is true, 527 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 4: I hope it is. Tell you about that, among other things, 528 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: stay with us. 529 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: Armstrong Hetty. 530 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 5: Doctor say gaming for older Americans has benefits, allowing them 531 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 5: to use the brain, stay engaged, and maintain cognition. Research 532 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 5: shows puzzles, Skill and Chance, and arcade video games are 533 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 5: the most popular with older players. 534 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about video games for old people to 535 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: help their minds stay engaged. Yeah, Yeah, it's funny. 536 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: I heard gaming and I thought gambling, because the gambling 537 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: industry is tried to rename it gaming because it sounds better. 538 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 4: I guess because I have teenagers, I hear gaming and 539 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 4: I think Call of Duty. Yeah, which, speaking of just 540 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 4: came across is this stat Thanks to our friend Tim 541 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 4: Sanderfer who tweeted it out, gamers specifically playing Call of 542 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 4: Duty have logged more than twenty five billion hours since 543 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 4: it first came out, equivalent to two point eight five 544 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 4: million years, surpassing the entire timeline of human history. 545 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: Wow. 546 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: Wow. Meanwhile, a few of those people, well, you know 547 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, a few of the people 548 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: have actually answered a call to duty, although I'll bet 549 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: a hell of a lot of our military guys play 550 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: those games in their free time. 551 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: Probably. Yeah. 552 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 4: Well, we played a clip earlier of Shane Gillis, the comedian. 553 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 4: He hosted the sp Awards last night. He was the 554 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 4: MC and he had some funny stuff. We'll play have 555 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 4: more clips later, but one of his jokes that he 556 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: does in his stand up routine is how it's one 557 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 4: of his problems is like he really loves his girlfriend 558 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 4: and they have a great relationship, But as soon as 559 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 4: they're done having sex, he just wants her to leave, 560 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 4: and the crowd always groans and and he says, oh, yeah, 561 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 4: I'm the only guy that likes play an Xbox alone, 562 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 4: and then all the dudes cheer. I guess that is 563 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 4: a thing, play an Xbox alone by yourself. I'm I 564 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: got one kid who loves video games and one that 565 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 4: doesn't like them at all, for better or worse. So 566 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 4: another thing you can do that's supposed to be helpful 567 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: is journaling. 568 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: Have you ever journaled consistently for a couple of months? 569 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh? 570 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: Really? And and why did you do it? When you 571 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: did it years and years ago? 572 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be delivering my drivel 573 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: in print as opposed to verbally for a living. 574 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: And you just trying to write more good practice? 575 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 4: Okay, interesting, Yeah, it's a lot of people claim it's 576 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 4: good for your mental health, get thoughts out of your 577 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 4: head or whatever. New York Times has a thing today 578 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 4: how to start journaling and actually stick with it, and 579 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 4: it's setting goals and all these different things. I'm still 580 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 4: very interested in whether handwriting is necessary for this stuff 581 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 4: or if typing counts. This particular person in the New 582 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 4: York Times says just do whatever, it doesn't make any difference, 583 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 4: and I'm not sure that's true. 584 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: Well, given the fascinating discoveries scientists have made about the 585 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: way handwriting connects various centers in your brain and gets 586 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: them to work in concert, it's really intriguing and discouraging. 587 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: Since I'm left handed and I despise handwriting. 588 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 4: But one of the things I want to bring up 589 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 4: about handwriting somebody mentioned this to me. Well, I had 590 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 4: noticed this in myself, but just kind of blown it off. 591 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: I thought maybe it was age or something. 592 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: I got to write, which I very rarely do, like 593 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 4: I fill it out a check or whatever. My handwriting 594 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 4: is so horrible, and I didn't know if it was 595 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 4: just age or like I need a new pen or what. 596 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 4: But somebody had pointed out to me that they thought 597 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 4: they had gotten real their handwriting had gotten really bad, 598 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 4: worse just from lack of doing it. 599 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's it. 600 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: You're out of I'm out of practice. 601 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 4: I haven't I haven't written regularly in decades, and so 602 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 4: I go to do it now and I look like 603 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 4: a third grader. That wasn't that bad when I was 604 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 4: in third grade. But man, I am now. It's just 605 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 4: it looks like there's no way an adult wrote. 606 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: This check third grader or a maniac exactly the pinched, 607 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: angry handwriting of the maniac. We've received those letters back 608 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: when we used to get letters. 609 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 4: I know how you're going to react to this. I 610 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 4: had a teacher who I really really like say the 611 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 4: other day and I don't. 612 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: I don't. 613 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 4: Well, I won't say this particular student doesn't spell well 614 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: and it's not their fault, but they can't spell. And 615 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 4: the teacher said, doesn't matter, It doesn't matter. I don't 616 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 4: care about spelling anymore. That's never going to be a 617 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: thing again. You just got to get close and the 618 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 4: computer tells you you fix it, and you move on. 619 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: So I don't drill spelling anymore. Do you think that 620 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 4: makes sense or not? 621 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: No? No, because you the various autocorrect stuff is cumbersome. Well, 622 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: and I don't as certain autocorrects are pretty quickly. 623 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: It depends what platform you're using. 624 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: It's I tell you what if somebody really struggled with 625 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: spelling and it would take an enormous amount of time 626 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: and energy to get them up to speed. No, I 627 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't devote that time and energy. I think it's 628 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: a real time saver to be a good speller. But 629 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: I see their point. You know what's funny is I 630 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: mentioned I'm a lefty, and and I always reacted horribly 631 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: to stories of back in the day parents would force 632 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: their kids to write right handed. They'd even, like, you 633 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: know whatever, put a mitten on the left hand and 634 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: make them right handed, or you know. Certainly I wouldn't 635 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: be in favor of beating a kid or whatever. But 636 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: recently I've been on this kick of I will occasionally 637 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: because I do things I'm partially I'm ambidextrous. It's practically 638 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: at random what I do with my right hand what 639 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: I do with my left, and I will occasionally realize, oh, 640 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: that's funny, I use my right hand for that. I'm 641 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: going to try it left handed for a week, and 642 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: so I'll try to do that because I've heard that's 643 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: good for the brain too. 644 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 4: I've interesting new corrections, and I've never tried to do 645 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 4: things left handed. Maybe I will, but I got I 646 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 4: got really good. 647 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: I got pretty damn good at brushing my teeth with 648 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: the opposite hand. 649 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: And I thought, you know, what. 650 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: Writing right handed is much more efficient than left handed, 651 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: and if I put a little time into it, I 652 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: can learn to do that. As a kid, it would 653 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: have been, you know, a little more difficult than learning 654 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: to write left handed, which was what my brain wanted. 655 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 2: But it would have been fine. 656 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 4: I'll try brushing my teeth with my left hand a nine. 657 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 4: See if I or a Saturday. I brushed my teeth 658 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 4: every Saturday. 659 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: Fair warning, you will jab yourself in the gums, right 660 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: in the eye. Brush it. 661 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: Well, that happened too. 662 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: I have had the thing come out of my mouth 663 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: and smeared toothpaste toothpaste all over my cheek. 664 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 2: It's funny. 665 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 4: Gently gently Trump's making a deal with Zelensky that I 666 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 4: think everybody will be on board with, no matter how 667 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 4: interventionists or non interventionous you are. That's that I'm pretty 668 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 4: excited about. We can talk about that an hour three 669 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 4: and a bunch of other different things. If you miss 670 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 4: a segment or an hour, get our podcast. 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